Lima container flats

[martyn]

I've recommended this site before, as there is a heck of a lot of 'real railway' and operating procedures on it,  but here is another take on containers, especially the origin and some early liveries;

http://www.igg.org.uk/gansg/5-unit/unitload3.htm

Martyn

[crewearpley40]

Helpful. Martyn . Interesting to hear of the seafarers perspective. Maybe too early for gavin. But I noticed https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brcontainer  and  https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brfreightliner                       Nostalgia here  https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brfreightlinercontainer

[martyn]

 

But allied to it
Harwich Parkeston Quay was developed as the first 'purpose built' ship container Berth, in the UK, but was for short sea trade across the North Sea.

Across the river, and visible from it, Felixstowe was developed as the first Deep Sea container terminal, and this lead to a little friendly rivalry when 'firsts' were being claimed.

Both are now owned by Hutchinson, who, I think, also own one of the current ROSCOs.

Prior to ISO containers being handled, Parkeston used to load BR early design containers for shipping on the Hook of Holland service. Not sure if they were A or B type, but I've photos somewhere.

@crewearpley40

Thanks for the links:the third one includes a photo of Shaw Savill containers, which I'd never seen in the UK. On the same wagon is a Bank line box: the ship I was on which carried Shaw Savill boxes was on a joint service with Bank line between the West Indies, US Gulf, Australia and New Zealand. I didn't know the boxes actually got to the UK.

Martyn

[crewearpley40]

Maybe something for us all to consider. Appreciate your input perspectives @martyn . I never knew all this until I saw the links

[gavin_t]

@Trainfish great video clip, thanks for sharing. That container rake looks great. Also love the Ford one  another essex favorite.
@martyn thanks for the link above.  Confirmed what I wanted to know about the date of introduction of the 45ft containers too.

[Trainfish]

Thanks @gavin_t . The Ford van rake is now complete but I still need more Ford containers so if you ever see any............................

[crewearpley40]

Mainly 20, 30 and 40ft containers see https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/45ft-containers-on-rail.196471/   I cannot help with shipping perspectives, I'm.pretty sure the period you model focusses on 20 30 and 40ft gavin. John @Trainfish anything on here of use ? https://www.goodwoodscenics.co.uk/card-containers ?

[crewearpley40]

Also https://scalescenes.com/product/t031-shipping-containers/ has a range

[njee20]

I'd consider using card containers for a backscene or something, but not on a train, they don't compare well to plastic ones.

[crewearpley40]

I'd consider using card containers for a backscene or something, but not on a train, they don't compare well to plastic ones.

that was what I was thinking                                                   Sesondly was looking at liveries and thinking what was / is available

[gavin_t]

Yes quite right from what I have seen. I think the only anomaly was the Ford containers that were an in between  size? Anyway that another project entirely 

Although if I struggle with getting items I will just model on of the empty "lockdown" trains that I saw earlier this year 
when there was nothing to bring in from the port! A few months earlier they were full rakes!

[Trainfish]

I'd consider using card containers for a backscene or something, but not on a train, they don't compare well to plastic ones.

I considered that once but then realised I had enough plastic containers anyway if I decided on a container backscene. I'm really not a fan of card containers or buildings etc. I did do some card picnic tables but I think that they are the biggest card constructions I have.

[martyn]

@gavin_t

Ford containers were either 30', I think, or may have been 27'. Two could be carried on a 60 container flat.

The basic length for ISO container length was initially multiples of 10 feet, but for some reason, an early Freightliner design was 27 feet. I don't know which dimension Ford used.
Martyn

[crewearpley40]

Possibly 30ft. Farish did the 3605 see here https://www.hattons.co.uk/137193/graham_farish_3605farish_ln_05_freightliner_bogie_flats_with_cp_ships_merzario_containers_pre_owned_like_new/stockdetail.aspx with green CP and OOCL rail