Transfers, Decals, and pronounciation of Deckals/Deecals

[njee20]

Overheard on a local news station when I was last in the US

"A house in downtown XXXX was burglarised last night".

Whatever was wrong with burgled?

Strictly speaking, burglarised is more correct. The root word is the noun "burglar", and "burgled" is a dubious back-formation from it.

But language is what people write, not what rules say it should be, so burglar it is.

But "burgled" isn't from the noun, it's from the verb "burgle", from which the noun "burglar" is also derived, you can't really leap from the noun to the past tense of the verb.

To jump. A jumper. He jumped. He doesn't jumperise.

[jpendle]

If we're going to get snippy about language then it could get nasty 

But definitely 'two nations divided by a common language'.

Aluminum and 'Fall', the season, are examples of where English has changed and American didn't.

In English 'we was going ..........' makes me want to cry.

But not as much as this abomination.

10% off today, that's a good savings 

And also

The Wichita Whotsits IS the best team in the NFL. Sounds OK, but in the UK we typically say Bolton Wanderers ARE the best team in the country (well you do if you're from Bolton and a bit deluded  )

And one that is apparently up for debate.

Fred was kicked out of the team. His ouster took place on March 5th. WTF!!! His OUSTING took place on March 5th, his ouster was the person who did the ousting.

Oust is used all over the place in the US news media.

And another gem,

'Anymore, people don't have landlines', really? You mean, 'Nowadays, people don't have landlines', or 'People don't have landlines anymore'.

But while my rational self tells me that language evolves, my heart says that I don't have to like it 

John P

[jpendle]

To jump. A jumper. He jumped. He doesn't jumperise.

He might, if he were accessorising his look with a jumper.

John P

[njee20]

As you say, this is now a race to the bottom, but who doesn't love a good grammar debate!

"Hence why" is a pet peeve of mine. They mean the same thing.

If we're doing Americanisms then "oftentimes" really grates, and "I could care less" - we say it correctly as "couldn't care less". Not to mention "legos" - even LEGO have pulled them up on that!

Re teams being is/are I was always taught that you're talking about a team as a single entity. Bolton Wanderers isn't a great example becasue the name itself is a plural, which confuses things! But "Manchester United is a great team", because there is one team, they are great. "Manchester United and Arsenal are great teams". Just as you would say "John is a great modeller" but "John and Phil are both great modellers".

I've never heard of "ouster" in that context, but I feel a bit unwell just reading that sentence.

[Bealman]

All I know is that I have to go for an X-er ray tomorrow 

[Jim Easterbrook]

But "burgled" isn't from the noun, it's from the verb "burgle", from which the noun "burglar" is also derived, you can't really leap from the noun to the past tense of the verb.

The noun "burglar" first occurs in middle English (10th to 15th century), but the verb "to burgle" wasn't around until the second half of the nineteenth century.

[Newportnobby]

I still want to kick the  out of anyone beginning a sentence with 'so....'
Who started this pretentious twaddle, which seems to be mainly younger and middle aged based?

The good old BBC used to be a bastion of good grammar but has totally gone down the crapper/john/dunny. Now we get pillocks like Paul Martin (Flog It) calling a keepsake a 'momento'. Anne Robinson (The Weakest Link) always maintained she had some 'cuttelry' rather than 'cutlery' and I think she also said 'burgulars' instead of 'burglars'.

[trkilliman]

Often heard these days.

Godna = Gardener

Awganic = Organic

Soupah  = Super

[jpendle]

I still want to kick the  out of anyone beginning a sentence with 'so....'

So, assuming I ever make it back to Lancashire, shall we set a place and a time? 

John P

[njee20]

The good old BBC used to be a bastion of good grammar but has totally gone down the crapper/john/dunny. Now we get pillocks like Paul Martin (Flog It) calling a keepsake a 'momento'. Anne Robinson (The Weakest Link) always maintained she had some 'cuttelry' rather than 'cutlery' and I think she also said 'burgulars' instead of 'burglars'.

[Massive tangent] I won an episode of the Weakest Link 11 years ago! They told me to look smug, I feel I nailed it [/massive tangent]

But "burgled" isn't from the noun, it's from the verb "burgle", from which the noun "burglar" is also derived, you can't really leap from the noun to the past tense of the verb.

The noun "burglar" first occurs in middle English (10th to 15th century), but the verb "to burgle" wasn't around until the second half of the nineteenth century.

Every day's a school day, I take it back.

[crewearpley40]

Blimey nick. That you ?

[chrism]

I still want to kick the  out of anyone beginning a sentence with 'so....'

So, assuming I ever make it back to Lancashire, shall we set a place and a time? 

LOL, a perfect example of correct usage for "so" at the start of a sentence, when it follows on from a previous statement which provides the context.

I hope that Mick did actually mean people who start completely unrelated sentences with it.

[njee20]

Blimey nick. That you ?

Yep!  I was 22, but I appear to look about 9.

[crewearpley40]

Claim to fame ! Ah .... mastermind next .... specialist chosen subject n gauge model railway

[Newportnobby]

I hope that Mick did actually mean people who start completely unrelated sentences with it.

For my sins I watch the quiz programme 'Pointless' and the problem is rife on that.
When told "Tell us about yourself" the norm is "So - I'm a such and such executive and live blah blah...."
I've never once read it in any novel and have not a clue why it's necessary in speaking.