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Offline GPHolmes

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Track layout software
« on: March 26, 2020, 06:53:32 PM »
Right, first apologies if I am duplicating previous works of wonder and interest.
As I have re-joined and picked up the sport after decades I was trying to pick up projects were I had left them, but I have been hampered by progress or some will say lack of it.
Anyway I had big plans on WinRail would of been 4/5, and so wrongly I assume that one could pick that up with the latest and greatest version X3, but I have been told it on longer supports the English language. So I am having to look at the options, AnyRail with it's 50 piece limit or £45 license, and SCRAM with it's 100 limit and $39.90 license. Neither will import the Winrail plans I so lovingly created back in 2002.
So which do I go for, both have impressive libraries but which one is more accurate, and when it come to flexi track which one is not so much easy, but lets up define the end limits or tangents to get the best curve.
At the end of the day I do not need frustration I get that at work and at work I use MCAD and ECAD software, I was thinking of just using that but after a day modelling on those I want less frustration, and why recreate libraries of track when someone already has.
Anyway I would like to here of your view on either.
Cheers, have fun.
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Re: Track layout software
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2020, 07:29:21 PM »
I have the old freebie version of SCARM and use that. For whatever reason I just couldn't get on with AnyRail and abandoned it.

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Re: Track layout software
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2020, 08:42:43 PM »
I used XtrkCad. It was worth spending a bit of time to learn how to use it. In the end I produced many designs with it before I settled on what I wanted.

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Re: Track layout software
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2020, 09:07:34 PM »
I use/used Anyrail, it had the track libraries I needed and also has some user-contributed ones for buildings and trackside stuff like Ratio and Metcalfe kits.

I found it very easy to pick up and mostly not frustrating. The flextrack capabilities seem pretty good, you can define the degree of the curve and the radius, and also create easement curves. You can "glue" your start and end point track and fit the curve to those points if you want to customize your curves, and you can also drag the curve if, for example, you want to create an "S" curve.

You can export the plan to Trainplayer if you want to check the operational aspect virtually.

The layering capabiilty is useful too, so, for example, you can design your baseboards on one layer, put the track on another layer to check for point motor clearances and other conflicts, put the buildings on a third layer. You can set the heights and it will warn you of gradients outside your defined miximums and show you the clearances when one track crosses another. There's a rudimentary 3-D view so you can get a sense of what the spatial look of the plan is & you can define which areas are hidden (in tunnels) or embankmented.

I shelled out the license fee as I didn't want to deal with the limitation of the free version, and i drew up a lot of ideas before I settled on the final one (actually, the final two in my case).

Try before you buy with the free version, then if you like it, you can license it.

Hope this helps!

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Re: Track layout software
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2020, 09:59:41 PM »
Unfortunately I have tried both AnyRail and Scram and I liked neither both are to long winded constantly trying to find library items.

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Re: Track layout software
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2020, 10:15:44 PM »
Can you not find an old version of Winrail anywhere? Or do you still have the software you used way back when? Ultimately none of the products have changed in 20 years, so designs from then will still work today.

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Re: Track layout software
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2020, 01:59:49 AM »
Unfortunately I have tried both AnyRail and Scram and I liked neither both are to long winded constantly trying to find library items.
That's a shame. I loaded the PECO Code 55 library the first time in and never had to look for it again, but if you don't like the process then fair enough.

Please check back if you find something that you like, always happy to learn. SCARM (not Scram) and Anyrail seem to be the best-used and best-trusted, XtrkCAD gets great reviews if you're willing to put the time in to learn it.

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Re: Track layout software
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2020, 12:15:19 PM »
Another hand up here for AnyRail.  Once you find the track library you need, it stays on the screen for you just to drag and drop....

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Re: Track layout software
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2020, 02:49:04 PM »
I use the free version of SCARM which works fine for me. Allows up to 50 track pieces although I think this figure was higher on the older versions..

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Re: Track layout software
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2020, 04:26:47 PM »
HOLLERTON JUNCTION was designed using WinRail which was good a few years back.  If choosing today, I would use AnyRail - only tried the free version but it seems easy to use and powerful.

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Re: Track layout software
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2020, 05:07:40 PM »
First SCRAM, limits you to only load from the library to the end your working on, however Anyrail at least lets you load from on mass from the library, so you could go down the library get what you need/think you need, then put it all together. First point for Anyrail.

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Re: Track layout software
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2020, 05:31:36 PM »
... Anyrail at least lets you load from on mass from the library, so you could go down the library get what you need/think you need, then put it all together. First point for Anyrail.

Hi,

I'm not sure what you mean?  In Anyrail, you select the track library or libraries you'd like to use, and then once they are selected they stay on the screen for you to use. For instance. You can select N - Peco - Streamline Code 55.  You then have a box with all the code 55 pieces for you to drag and drop. It stays there whilst you construct your plan.

No?

Anyrail also allows you to specify curved flexitrack by angle and radius

Best

Scott

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Re: Track layout software
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2020, 05:40:07 PM »
Yes.  :)

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Re: Track layout software
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2020, 05:43:13 PM »
An example of an AnyRail plan:

Stanley Junction by ScottyStitch, on Flickr
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Re: Track layout software
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2020, 05:57:05 PM »
Sorted found the original disk and loaded WinRail
Although now it is up and running I wondered why I preferred it.

N Gauge, basically double level fiddle yard on lower, scenic on top with helix on both ends, simple, as I mention created back in 2002 for a display layout. Fiddle yard and helix's was all code 80 with top level all code 55.
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