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Re: Direct Rail Services awarded Ford car freight train contract
« Reply #60 on: May 23, 2020, 04:55:59 PM »
Just looking at this thread, I assume posters on here realise the Dagenham to Garston CT train (6X41 / 6L48 & 6X43 / 6L49) are Class 66 diesel hauled for the whole journey and have been from the start (bar one I think) allowing for the pandemic interruption. As far as I am aware, DRS don't intend to use Class 88's on this service for operational reasons. Personally I think you have more chance of seeing a Class 37 on it than a Class 88! Yes the train actually operated Thursday evening and Friday - round trip. 
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Re: Direct Rail Services awarded Ford car freight train contract
« Reply #61 on: May 23, 2020, 05:21:04 PM »
The discussion was spawned by the link in the OP which explicitly says they intend(ed) to use 88s - obviously itís a few months ago now. Why are they only using 66s out of interest?

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Re: Direct Rail Services awarded Ford car freight train contract
« Reply #62 on: May 23, 2020, 09:20:37 PM »
Yep!

The press release says CL88 to deal with the unelectrified terminals at each end.

If it is a 66 then at least that'll be easier to model.

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Re: Direct Rail Services awarded Ford car freight train contract
« Reply #63 on: May 23, 2020, 09:32:57 PM »
I suspect a 66 is being used throughout as neither dagenham nor garston are fully electrified but wire up the mainline.....
 https://www.railfreight.com/uk/2020/01/14/1500-ford-cars-a-week-by-train-across-the-uk/

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« Reply #64 on: May 23, 2020, 09:53:09 PM »
But again, that article says:

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A crucial part of the operation will be the use of bi-mode, Stadler-designed class 88 electro-diesel locomotives, built specifically for DRS

So would be interesting to know why 8A rail is so adamant that won't happen. Again, I realise that's an article from January, but still...

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Re: Direct Rail Services awarded Ford car freight train contract
« Reply #66 on: May 23, 2020, 10:22:52 PM »
A quick search of the headcodes on Flickr brings up this too (not my image), which I presume is "the one":

Electric Trials by TimboM, on Flickr


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Re: Direct Rail Services awarded Ford car freight train contract
« Reply #67 on: May 23, 2020, 10:51:44 PM »
Thanks @njee20, the associated text is most revealing.

Three weeks into running the Dagenham-Garston STVA contract, Direct Rail Services would appear to have finally sorted out shunting arrangements at the terminals and are able to trial the use of the advertised bi-mode Class 88 traction for the flow.

So looks like an 88 is still needed for my STVA's  ;D

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Re: Direct Rail Services awarded Ford car freight train contract
« Reply #68 on: May 23, 2020, 11:15:23 PM »
Didnít actually read the words! That makes sense, sounds like itís still the aspiration.

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Re: Direct Rail Services awarded Ford car freight train contract
« Reply #69 on: May 24, 2020, 12:54:55 AM »
Someone else commented that although they have run the first two trains, empties and loaded, that they still used a 66 at Garston to handle the shunting.

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« Reply #70 on: May 24, 2020, 04:30:49 PM »
I am sure I have seen footage (all be it older) of Class 90 electric traction hauling one of these trains through Ripple lane junction after leaving Dagenham. So assume the small part that isnt electrified must have a locomotive handover somewhere.

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Re: Direct Rail Services awarded Ford car freight train contract
« Reply #71 on: May 24, 2020, 04:44:40 PM »
Gavin may have been a train like this @gavin_t  :     https://youtu.be/LkzaAqCR9fI

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Re: Direct Rail Services awarded Ford car freight train contract
« Reply #72 on: May 24, 2020, 04:48:10 PM »
Or the class 66 on the empties .... southbound...     https://youtu.be/lIFMqln1aRY

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« Reply #73 on: May 24, 2020, 05:19:38 PM »
Gavin may have been a train like this @gavin_t  :     https://youtu.be/LkzaAqCR9fI

Yes that's the one. So assume there is a way for them to utilise electric traction

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Re: Direct Rail Services awarded Ford car freight train contract
« Reply #74 on: May 24, 2020, 05:36:23 PM »
See this https://youtu.be/DmFKg7ebpBQ
       Check these                                                                                    links      https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/garston-ford-car-train-today.92455/    and         http://www.gronkgeek.co.uk/2015/02/the-liverpool-rail-scene-year-on.html?m=1   

 

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