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Author Topic: LMS 40 Ton hopper wagon.  (Read 1373 times)

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Re: LMS 40 Ton hopper wagon.
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2019, 08:11:22 AM »
Well if that's true, the original poster is gonna need a 9F  ;)
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Re: LMS 40 Ton hopper wagon.
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2019, 08:13:55 AM »

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Re: LMS 40 Ton hopper wagon.
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2019, 08:22:30 AM »
Sort of similar,but definately different !

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Re: LMS 40 Ton hopper wagon.
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2019, 08:23:08 AM »
Are these the same wagons that were used at thhe Consett Iron works up north ? I think it's an ideal subject for the 3D printer boffins to have a go at.

No, they were much later.
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Re: LMS 40 Ton hopper wagon.
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2019, 09:08:21 AM »
Well if that's true, the original poster is gonna need a 9F  ;)

Would need to be a Minitrix one as a Dapol one might pull one wagon :-X

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Re: LMS 40 Ton hopper wagon.
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2019, 10:15:49 AM »
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Re: LMS 40 Ton hopper wagon.
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2019, 11:35:38 AM »
For those sort of flat shapes rather than using Miliput I'd probably look at using thin plasticard and then file it to the right shape.

How close are the wagons in size? Apart from filling holes, the really obvious thing (to me!) is the German wagon has two angles on the top part of the hopper whereas the LMS wagon has only one, but that might be possible to file away or overlay. For the wing doors you might be able to file them to profile but the difficulty might be getting a consistent profile - the easiest way might be to create a profile in plasticard so that you can "measure" the profile you've filed - definitely only one to try if you are prepared to write off one wagon for testing!

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Re: LMS 40 Ton hopper wagon.
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2019, 11:40:04 AM »
It all depends on just how much fidelity to the prototype you want, I guess....

I'd make do with just a good repaint!   :thumbsup:
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Re: LMS 40 Ton hopper wagon.
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2019, 11:45:56 AM »
For those sort of flat shapes rather than using Miliput I'd probably look at using thin plasticard and then file it to the right shape.

How close are the wagons in size? Apart from filling holes, the really obvious thing (to me!) is the German wagon has two angles on the top part of the hopper whereas the LMS wagon has only one, but that might be possible to file away or overlay. For the wing doors you might be able to file them to profile but the difficulty might be getting a consistent profile - the easiest way might be to create a profile in plasticard so that you can "measure" the profile you've filed - definitely only one to try if you are prepared to write off one wagon for testing!

Cheers Mike

I'm using milliput to build up the bottom of the hopper ends and the top of the hopper sides so I can make it more 'square'.

I'll probably leave the doors as is, for the reasons posted earlier.

As regards size, the wagons are about a 'foot' short, and the hopper is about a 'foot' too tall, I've ALREADY solved the height by sanding down the hopper top.

I'm using one as a guinea pig. If it comes out okay I'll do the other one as well.
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Re: LMS 40 Ton hopper wagon.
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2019, 11:46:48 AM »
It all depends on just how much fidelity to the prototype you want, I guess....

I'd make do with just a good repaint!   :thumbsup:

Ooo, you antipodeans are rough.

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Re: LMS 40 Ton hopper wagon.
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2019, 11:47:56 AM »


Why do you think the Minitrix ones would be better. I only went for these as I got two for 15.

Same as you --price . At the time Minitrix ones were cheaper and seemed easier to obtain.

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Re: LMS 40 Ton hopper wagon.
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2019, 11:49:32 AM »


Why do you think the Minitrix ones would be better. I only went for these as I got two for 15.

Same as you --price . At the time Minitrix ones were cheaper and seemed easier to obtain.

Fair 'nuf.
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Re: LMS 40 Ton hopper wagon.
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2019, 11:53:42 AM »
Well if that's true, the original poster is gonna need a 9F  ;)

Would need to be a Minitrix one as a Dapol one might pull one wagon :-X

Just to balance and old argument. My three Dapol 9Fs happily pull 20 Anhydrite wagons and a brake van, although the front pony does argue with some points but then so do the Minitrix ones

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Re: LMS 40 Ton hopper wagon.
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2019, 12:43:44 PM »
Well if that's true, the original poster is gonna need a 9F  ;)

Would need to be a Minitrix one as a Dapol one might pull one wagon :-X

Just to balance and old argument. My three Dapol 9Fs happily pull 20 Anhydrite wagons and a brake van, although the front pony does argue with some points but then so do the Minitrix ones

Just to tie this bit off, it'll be a LMS wagon, pulled by a LMS loco, and seeing as I'm not planning on building eight, a 5 or an 8F will be fine.
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Re: LMS 40 Ton hopper wagon.
« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2019, 01:07:12 PM »
Just a little bit off topic, but the German style of wagon also operated in block trains on the Southern Region of BR in the 1960s/1970s. They were referred to as LHBs as they were built by Linke Hoffmann Busch. I think they may have worked for a company subsequently absorbed into Hall Aggregates, and then RMC. Not near my books at the moment to confirm the owner and route.
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