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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #75 on: January 09, 2020, 01:59:48 PM »
Aaaargh!

Now I don't know what to do! I've ditched the resin Cromwell's as they were so full of bubbles it was a nightmare, I've got nice quality white metal ones, which have a bit of flash to deal with and require some easily achieved 'narrowing', but they are weighty, and now there's these.

I love the detail. I like the proportions, they'll sit perfectly on my Warwells (Yes, Warwells not Warflats (I like to be different)), but they're going to be light.

Aaaaargh, brain overload.

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #76 on: January 09, 2020, 02:16:42 PM »
Hi @emjaybee

To my eyes, I cannot see any clean up is required on Kevinís Cromwells.  I have no idea how Kevin does this but if all 3D ďprintsĒ were of this quality then it would be a perfect technology.

The Cromwells are not feather light but obviously will way less than white metal ones.  I am creating my own shorter than prototype ďWarflatsĒ and if necessary will add some weight.

The tanks will be part of a longer military train on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.

At the end of the day, these models are tiny and once painted and stuck on a flat or well wagon will look great.  From normal viewing distances they will look like a green blob.  ;)

Kevinís Cromwellís are probably the best British N gauge option out there but not cheap.  How many do you need?  Is it justifiable to start again from a cost perspective?

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #77 on: January 09, 2020, 02:29:35 PM »
@Paddy are the bottoms of the Cromwells hollow? I'm wondering if the bottom could be filled with 'Liquid Gravity' (other products are available) to give them some mass.

I'm REALLY liking yours. I need four to make up a short consist of wagons.

Decisions, decisions.

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #78 on: January 09, 2020, 03:29:28 PM »
Hi @emjaybee

I have just weighed one of the Cromwell tanks and it is 4g.  The turret has a round peg underneath which slots in a hole in the body.  The hole is 8mm across by 5mm deep - I suppose this could be filled with additional weight and the turret glued on top?

Hope this helps.

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #79 on: January 09, 2020, 03:45:09 PM »
Hi,

To help out with the answer of making the models more heavy, here are some pictures. The tanks are hollow, with small drain holes in the bottom to let air in and resin out during printing and cleaning. You could use those holes to inject a heavy fluid that will become hard. See attached pictures. I have several customers who have also done that with other models.

The holes are close to 2.7mm each from one side to another.

Kevin
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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #80 on: January 09, 2020, 04:11:35 PM »
That's good to know. If you open out the holes carefully you ought to be able to pour in a little small gauge lead shot and then glue to hold it in place, that'd give them enough weight to be a good load on a wagon.

These are looking more and more tempting!
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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #81 on: January 09, 2020, 05:28:07 PM »
Hi,

The holes are not plugged by me. They are shipped with the holes still open as you canít see it since itís on the bottom.

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #82 on: January 11, 2020, 03:14:14 PM »
Hi @emjaybee,

Also, I could make the holes larger if that is what you prefer. Forgot to say that.

Kevin

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #83 on: January 11, 2020, 04:06:48 PM »
Hi @emjaybee,

Also, I could make the holes larger if that is what you prefer. Forgot to say that.

Kevin

No, it's fine, thank you. They look great.

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #84 on: January 13, 2020, 10:59:41 AM »
Hi all,

I am currently designing the new MAN trucks that the Bundeswehr is purchasing. The English Army uses the same trucks now in a slightly different configuration. Would there be interest in those? If there is I will make them, if there is not I wonít bother as I think that the English market is a tough one to manage with all of the different scale preferences.

For example:  MAN HX60, HX58, HX77.

Kevin

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #85 on: January 13, 2020, 11:56:27 AM »
Hmm the SV series well that is right up my street for my planned layout, as well a few of you offerings.
Although the Cougar MRAP in the British section isn't a UK vehicle.

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #86 on: January 14, 2020, 12:22:01 PM »
Hi @Paddy,

Cleaning them in IPA and letting it dry is also fine. IPA vaporizes fast.

Be very careful making them warm or cold under the tap. Warm water makes them flexible, if you change the angle of the barrel and let it cool is will retain that position. Make it cold and it will become extremely brittle so that it breaks when touching the wrong part.

I do not use water for cleaning at all. I would suggest skipping that part, and especially donít use a toothbrush when made cold. When on normal temprature they wonít break and a toothbrush is fine.

A primer is good, paint will stick without it, but a primer is of course rarely the wrong choice. Sounds good! Iím curious to see the pictures!

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Hi Kevin, ( @Panzer-Shop.nl )

Well, just soaked each tank and turret in IPA for 10 minutes and they are drying off as I type.  No damage seems to have occurred.  As you recommended, I have avoided the use of water.

Next step will be to prime the tanks...

Kind regards

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #87 on: January 14, 2020, 01:39:50 PM »
Hi Folks,

The tanks dried well although I did notice some crystallisation inside the tank and turret bodies.  I assume this is nothing to worry about?

The first coat of grey Halfords primer has been applied and left to dry.  It is quite magical what happens when the primer is applied - suddenly all the wonderful detail on the Cromwell becomes visible.

Once dry, I will check if a second coat of primer is needed.  I will also upload some photos of the primed Cromwell for comparison.

So far, so good.

Kind regards

Paddy
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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #88 on: January 14, 2020, 02:40:02 PM »
Hi,

I believe a previous forum member recommended to me that that MRAP is British  :doh:. Iím lost, haha.

Nice @Paddy! I do not know what kind of cristalisation you mean, but Iím sure itís nothing to worry about as all resin is cured and IPA will vaporate. Iím looking forward to the results!

Kevin

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #89 on: January 14, 2020, 03:46:38 PM »
Thanks Kevin ( @Panzer-Shop.nl ).  Second coat of primer has been applied!

Kind regards

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