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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #105 on: January 17, 2020, 08:56:39 PM »
Hi @Panzer-Shop.nl, @emjaybee,

Once the main paint had dried I went back to touch up any missed bits.  This is where I hit my first problem.  The colour of Humbrol Acrylic 86 Light Olive in the tin was completely different from their spray can!

Despite a lot of stirring it would not get anywhere near the spray colour.  Possibly it is a duff pot but just a word of warning.  In the end, I sprayed some of the paint in to a palette and used that with a fine brush.

The tanks have now been sealed with a cost of Testors’ Dullcoat.

The result is far better than I ever hoped and perfectly acceptable for wagon loads on a military train.  I will take some photos in the daylight tomorrow and upload to this thread.

The build for the rest of the military train will be documented in my HOLLERTON JUNCTION thread.

Kevin - thank you for all your help with the Cromwells.

Kind regards

Paddy
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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #106 on: January 17, 2020, 09:24:18 PM »
I'm surprised you say there's a colour mismatch. I'd have expected better from Humbrol.

Look forward to seeing the pics.
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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #107 on: January 17, 2020, 09:29:22 PM »
I find that when the two types of paint get a varnish layer the difference goes away, something to do with the reflectivity of each type of paint.

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #108 on: January 17, 2020, 09:34:25 PM »
I find that when the two types of paint get a varnish layer the difference goes away, something to do with the reflectivity of each type of paint.

Hi @Snowwolflair

Ah, that is interesting and I will do a test then.  There was a big difference though as the spray is basically green whilst the pot was grey.  It could just be an old pot of paint although I purchased it last Wednesday.

All good experience though...

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #109 on: January 17, 2020, 10:30:54 PM »
I find that when the two types of paint get a varnish layer the difference goes away, something to do with the reflectivity of each type of paint.

Hi @Snowwolflair

Ah, that is interesting and I will do a test then.  There was a big difference though as the spray is basically green whilst the pot was grey.  It could just be an old pot of paint although I purchased it last Wednesday.

All good experience though...

Kind regards

Paddy

Yes, age of the paint makes a big difference if its acrylic, also concentration of pigment and dilution. 

I stick to enamel applied over an acrylic base coat if I can but you cannot apply enamel it to a 3D print directly as the white spirit base is a solvent to the type of plastic printed.

I still use some Humbrol paints first used by my dad 40 years ago, especially metallic paints, it's far better paint than the stuff they make now.

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #110 on: January 18, 2020, 03:30:21 PM »
Hi Folks,

@Panzer-Shop.nl, @emjaybee, @Snowwolflair, @acko22, @Railwaygun, @The Q, @RailGooner, @Richard G Dallimore, @kirky, @Tank

As promised you can see a couple of photos of my completed Cromwell tanks from Panzer-Shop.nl in 1/150 scale.  I am sure others would get far better results than me but I am pleased with the outcome.  The tanks will certainly make very credible loads for my upcoming military train.



N.B. The tank leaning forward is not a fault with the model but rather the plastic tub it is sitting on.



I cannot recommend these models highly enough - Kevin you are a star!  Thank you.

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #111 on: January 18, 2020, 03:40:02 PM »
Hi Paddy,

Looking good! Nice paintjob!

When you have them on the cars, could you send me a picture so that I can use them for my customer gallery? I have nothing English in there yet.

https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/c-4951580/customer-gallery/

Nice work!

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #112 on: January 18, 2020, 03:44:46 PM »
They look smashing Paddy. A good job done by both you and Kevin. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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« Reply #113 on: January 18, 2020, 03:51:37 PM »
Top banana bloke!

Full marks to all concerned.
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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #114 on: May 01, 2020, 09:35:59 PM »
 Hi all!

Im sure some of you got the memo, but a few weeks ago I finally finished of my new Chieftain design. One of the customers did a very nice job of painting it, and I did not want to hide the pictures from you. He also painted some other British stuff while he was at it.

Thank you for reading! :)

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #115 on: May 01, 2020, 11:35:46 PM »
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Re: Military Webshop - latest Panzer-shop NL offerings
« Reply #116 on: May 04, 2020, 11:16:04 PM »
latest Panzer-shop NL offerings

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This month we have added several nice new vehicles, and a decalset for the East-German NVA. Above all we have released our biggest vehicle set we have every released.

The MAN KAT1 series is now available in many variants. That includes a complete bridging system with seperate parts to build into a river in your lay-out or diorama. A pure spectacle and a real landmark in all scenery parts.

A lot of new vehicles, and only more to come. Thank you for your support!

 

Neuheiten April:    (Plane=Tarp)
    
BTR-70:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59664903/russland/btr-70/#description
Chieftain:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59586660/britisch/chieftain/#description
Decalsätze NVA:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59857615/decals-allgemein/decalsaetze-nva/#description
LAV-LOG:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59604052/amerika/lav-log/#description
M1126 Stryker:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59664894/amerika/m1126-stryker/#description
M16 Rampe:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830831/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6-fsb-series-m16-rampe-einsatz/#description
M17 Brucke:
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830855/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6-fsb-series-m17-brucke-einsatz/#description
M1A1 Abrams:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59664885/amerika/m1a1-abrams/#description
M2 Bradley:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59586759/amerika/m2-bradley/#description
M3 Bradley:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59586781/amerika/m3-bradley/#description
M3-Boot:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830779/bun...m3-boot/#description
MAN KAT1 10t 8x8 Ladekran:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718337/bundeswehr/man-kat1-10t-8x8-ladekran/#description
MAN KAT1 10t 8x8 Mit Plane:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718341/bundeswehr/man-kat1-10t-8x8-mit-plane/#description
MAN KAT1 10t 8x8 Tankanlage:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718344/bundeswehr/man-kat1-10t-8x8-tankanlage/#description
MAN KAT1 10t 8x8:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718323/bundeswehr/man-kat1-10t-8x8/#description
MAN KAT1 5t 4x4 FERA Feuerleitsystem (Aktiv):   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718150/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-fera-feuerleitsystem-aktiv/#description
MAN KAT1 5t 4x4 FERA Feuerleitsystem:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718139/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-fera-feuerleitsystem/#description
MAN KAT1 5t 4x4 FM2:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718262/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-fm2/#description
MAN KAT1 5t 4x4 LARS-2:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/search/?search=lars
MAN KAT1 5t 4x4 Mit Plane:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718097/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-mit-plane/#description
MAN KAT1 5t 4x4 Tankanlage:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718274/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-tankanlage/#description
MAN KAT1 5t 4x4 Zugfeuerleitstelle ARES II:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718182/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-zugfeuerleitstelle-ares-ii/#description
MAN KAT1 5t 4x4:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718090/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4/#description
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6 Container Transporter Sani:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718311/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6-container-transporter-san/#description
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6 Entgiftungsfahrzeug:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59856993/bun...ahrzeug/#description
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6 FSB Transporter, Brucke:   
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830765/bun...bruecke/#description
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6 FSB Transporter, M3-Boot:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830708/bun...m3-boot/#description
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6 FSB Transporter, Rampe:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830727/bun...r-rampe/#description
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6 FSB Transporter:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830699/bun...sporter/#description
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6 Mit Plane:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718289/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6-mit-plane/#description
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6 Tipper:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718295/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6-tipper/#description
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6:   
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718282/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6/#description

 
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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #117 on: May 05, 2020, 02:45:15 AM »
oh now MAN SV variants that's what I am talking about! maybe not the most fun to drive but they came with a kettle!! (Had to have priorities straight).
@Panzer-Shop.nl are you possible looking at doing your Man truck range with British load beds?

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #118 on: May 05, 2020, 07:06:07 AM »
Hi @acko22,

Would we not be looking at the MAN SH/HX range for that? I believe only the 8x8 with crane was used of the KAT1 series, correct?

Im not very much into the British army, but that’s what I remember from my research at the time. If you want the British versions of the SH/HX range, I can do that I think. I believe there are no huge changes, only suspension and some other things.

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Re: Military Webshop
« Reply #119 on: May 05, 2020, 08:34:33 AM »
Hi @acko22,

Would we not be looking at the MAN SH/HX range for that? I believe only the 8x8 with crane was used of the KAT1 series, correct?

Im not very much into the British army, but that’s what I remember from my research at the time. If you want the British versions of the SH/HX range, I can do that I think. I believe there are no huge changes, only suspension and some other things.

Kevin
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Hi Kevin,

Just having a look through your website and your UFT 5T 6x6:
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58924827/modern-1991/utf-5to-6x6-lkw/#description
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58924843/modern-1991/utf-5to-6x6-lkw-with-tilt/#description

Is basically a SH/HX range wagons that the British Army use, if you make it a 4x4 version instead of 6x6 that is what we would call the MAN SV 6T, there are suitable differences which to make a British army version of the MAN series these been:

-Move the cupola housing on the cab to the opposite side (Right hand drive here in the UK)
-Remove the warning panel holders on the side and rear of the loading deck skirts (British vehicles don't have them, we use the folding panel on the front as you have done already, and another on the rear just above the light cluster under the load deck and then when carrying explosives we just use stick on labels on the cab)
-Behind the drives potion (UK drivers position) we store a spare wheel stowing it into the the space between cab and load bed rather than along the side length (although funny bit we cannot use it if needed on UK roads as it would fall out into the traffic!)
- UK versions with canopy have a curve to the top of them unlike the German versions which are flat topped.

A couple of bits that make near as damn it no difference are the hand rails around the loading deck skirt and rear bumper, the UK versions don't have these but a sharp blade can take care of that!

Also what we call the MAN SVR (Support Vehicle Recovery) is basically a UTF Multi 8x8, Tanker:
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58931459/modern-1991/utf-multi-8x8-tanker/#description
But with a recovery element on the rear with crane instead of the tanker element.
https://imgur.com/gallery/c5azL

Cheers
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