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Re: 2019 new Continental items
« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2019, 08:59:37 AM »
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Re: 2019 new Continental items
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2019, 09:30:13 AM »
In the latest Marklin/trix YouTube vid and the new catalogue, they say that the new N gauge BR103 body shell is made of some sort of metal filled/injected plastic. Anyone know anything about this?

To quote P32 of the catalogue: "The body is made of plastic filled with metal for improved pulling power."   :hmmm:

I think it means a detailed plastic injection moulded body with weights added, rather than a less detailed diecast metal body.
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Re: 2019 new Continental items
« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2019, 10:12:24 AM »
In the latest Marklin/trix YouTube vid and the new catalogue, they say that the new N gauge BR103 body shell is made of some sort of metal filled/injected plastic. Anyone know anything about this?

To quote P32 of the catalogue: "The body is made of plastic filled with metal for improved pulling power."   :hmmm:

I think it means a detailed plastic injection moulded body with weights added, rather than a less detailed diecast metal body.

Ah good, I wondered if they would start doing that. i prefer plastic bodies myself.

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Re: 2019 new Continental items
« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2019, 12:23:59 PM »
It's apparently an innovative manufacturing process where they mix metal particles into the plastic before it is injected into the mould. I can't see that this will be a very effective, a few grams at most, but I am certain that someone will compare the weights of the new 103 or crocodile shells to some from an older run.
Looking at the prices Minitrix want for these models introduced 40+ years ago, they are going to add gold dust to the plastic. ;)

Some sceptics also think that this could make the surface less smooth but we really have to wait and see how it turns out.
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Re: 2019 new Continental items
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2019, 01:33:41 PM »
The Arnold Spring/Summer 2019 new items  catalogue can be downloaded here.

http://www.lorenzoo.ch/docs/catHN2019.pdf

Oxford Diecast food trailers feature for France, Germany, Italy, Spain.


These are hilarious in the Arnold catalogue, I wish they were in continental 1:160!






Continental alternatives from Vollmer at DM Toys, wheeled and static kiosks :hmmm: -

https://www.en.dm-toys.de/produktdetails/items/Vollmer-47619.html

https://www.en.dm-toys.de/produktdetails/items/Vollmer-47620.html

https://www.en.dm-toys.de/produktdetails/items/Vollmer-47625.html

https://www.en.dm-toys.de/produktdetails/items/Vollmer-47618.html

https://www.en.dm-toys.de/produktdetails/items/Vollmer-47626.html


Thanks Daffy I'll have to get one, they're great!!!

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Re: 2019 new Continental items
« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2019, 02:11:35 PM »
Iíve just read that the "metal-filled plastic" is composed of just 30% plastic and 70% tungsten. Tungsten has the same weight as gold, and 70% metal is more than I imagined. Maybe this will really make a notable difference?
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Re: 2019 new Continental items
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Re: 2019 new Continental items
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2019, 02:52:52 PM »
Iíve just read that the "metal-filled plastic" is composed of just 30% plastic and 70% tungsten. Tungsten has the same weight as gold, and 70% metal is more than I imagined. Maybe this will really make a notable difference?

This is a really unusual approach! I can't imagine that actually makes the body shell any stronger though (if it's particles rather than threads). Why not just cast the body in plastic like Fleischmann? I suppose they're trying to be superior.  :hmmm:

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Re: 2019 new Continental items
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2019, 01:16:12 AM »
I don't think it will be very long before we see some of the models Matt. There are quite a few items scheduled for Quarter 1.

That's partly because, as is the trend nowadays, some items have already been in the pipeline for a number of years
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Re: 2019 new Continental items
« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2019, 01:23:27 AM »
:drool:

Love the liveries on some of those EMUs.

I've been blogging about locations in the Netherlands recently and some of those models would be perfect for that.

Plus a model of a Swiss EMU. Nice!

By the 'Swiss EMU' I assume you are talking about the RBe 540 . This was announced about 2 years ago now and was discussed a good while ago on this forum; discussion included the excessive price (although all the main manufacturers are going that way now) and the fact that vehicles will not be sold separately. For example I only need a driving trailer but can't economise because it is not going to be available separately
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Re: 2019 new Continental items
« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2019, 01:44:53 AM »
Amazing how much duplication / triplication / quadruplication there is now.

Fleischmann are bringing out lots of wagons (eg Rils bogie tarp wagons) versus Minitrix, numerous V160 series models  Piko are doing a Scheinenbus (lost count of the number of iterations of that over the years!). Same comment about iterations applies to : numerous V160 series models
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Re: 2019 new Continental items
« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2019, 03:50:28 AM »
Tungsten is dense and in N, even a few grams can be very helpful.  Tungsten is increasingly being used in alloys for chassis blocks.

Cheers Mike



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Re: 2019 new Continental items
« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2019, 09:54:20 AM »
Tungsten is dense and in N, even a few grams can be very helpful.  Tungsten is increasingly being used in alloys for chassis blocks.

Cheers Mike

The tungsten/plastic mix quoted by Hiawatha above would give a density around 3gm/cc compared to 1gm/cc for plastic alone, and 6.5gm/cc for a diecast mazak/zamac body which would presumably be less detailed.
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Re: 2019 new Continental items
« Reply #43 on: January 21, 2019, 12:20:11 PM »
Tungsten is dense and in N, even a few grams can be very helpful.  Tungsten is increasingly being used in alloys for chassis blocks.

Cheers Mike

The tungsten/plastic mix quoted by Hiawatha above would give a desnity around 3gm/cc compared to 1gm/cc for plastic alone, and 6.5gm/cc for a diecast mazak/zamac body which would presumably be less detailed.

So it seems MiniTrix have gone all space-age!!!  :D

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Re: 2019 new Continental items
« Reply #44 on: January 21, 2019, 01:27:54 PM »
Amazing how much duplication / triplication / quadruplication there is now.

Fleischmann are bringing out lots of wagons (eg Rils bogie tarp wagons) versus Minitrix, numerous V160 series models  Piko are doing a Scheinenbus (lost count of the number of iterations of that over the years!). Same comment about iterations applies to : numerous V160 series models

The Piko Schienenbus was released already in 2015 and was the first contemporary version of the 798 - the Arnold and Minitrix models date back to the 1960s. Only Fleischmann's 795 was acceptable for a Schienenbus at the time when Piko brought out the 798 but is a different type.

But basically I have to agree. Instead of making new types we now see the third or fourth development of the V200.1 (very good Fleischmann model and older but okay Minitrix and Arnold) or BR 44 (Minitrix and older Roco). But Ä99 MSRP for a newly-developed V200 is amazing, I am curious what Piko can achieve for that price. I also don't think that we need a 210 from both Minitrix and Fleischmann.
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