4-6-0s

[Dorsetmike]

Further to my moans re lack of SR 4-6-0s I got to wondering which - if any- other 4-6-0s with Walschearts valve gear had the same wheel sizes and spacings,if so then maybe either a RTR version should be more readily viable or a 3D body to fit said chassis; I'm assuming that there would not be any significant difference in the valve gear, and bogie spacing is easier to change

relevant SR loco dimensions:-
Nelson  6'7" drivers, spacing 7'0"+ 8'0
Arthur  6'7"     "            "     7'0" + 7'6"
H15     6'0"     "            "     7'0" + 7'0
S15     5'7"     "            "     6'3" + 7'6"

Could any of you with details of  BR, LMS and/or LNER locos (or models) with same wheel size/spacing to any of those above, please post them here. I would hope that it might be a small plus to a manufacturer not to have to design a complete new chassis. Alternatively it would suggest a donor chassis for a 3D body.

[Southerngooner]

I always thought a Jubilee (Peco or Farish, perhaps better with the latter) would make a good basis for a Nelson, but you'd need a new tender and chassis. The others all get a little tricky when it comes to the fireboxes.....

[Dorsetmike]

I've used a Peco Jubilee under a BHE N15 and hacked one for a Nelson a few years back, and now partway through hacking a Scot for a Nelson. but age is beginning to tell, hand/eye co-ordination is not what it was.

I've done some "mix 'n Match" with the BHE N15 and Langley S15 kits and various chassis , and now have Urie and Maunsell S15s, Urie H15s and Eastleigh Arthur from them. My attermpts at lining are what is letting me down now.

[martyn]

If I've read the RCTS loco history dimensions correctly, these are the LNER dimensions for the RTR models;

B17; 6' 8" drivers, wb 7' 3"+ 9' 00"   (Dapol tender motor/shaft to loco gearbox)

B1;   6' 2" drivers, wb also 7' 3" + 9' 00"  (Farish tender drive; Dapol as above).

B12; 6' 6" drivers, wb 7' 0" + 7' 0"  (Union Mills tender drive; inside cylinder loco)

Not very close to SR designs, except possibly B12 to H16?....but then you'd need outside cylinders and valve gear.

martyn

[Stevie DC]

BR 5MT Coupled wheelbase: 7' + 8' - loco drive so not as many issues with sorting out an 8 wheel tender but only 6' diameter drivers.

Also don't discount 4-6-2s.

A3/A4: 7'3 + 7'3 - 6'8 drivers
Britannia: 7' + 7' - 6'2 drivers
Duchess: 7'3 + 7'3 - 6'9 drivers

[PLD]

Royal Scott & Jubilee are both 6'9" wheels at 7'4"+8'0" so not too far off a Nelson (closer than many R-T-R models!) which is not too surprising given that Scott was purportedly developed from a set of Nelson drawings...

Black 5 is 6'0" wheels at 7'0"+8'0" so not really close enough for any.