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Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« on: September 08, 2018, 09:00:48 AM »
IPA CAR CARRIERS FROM REVOLUTION

Revolution Trains is to offer the long-lived IPA “twin” car carriers in both flat deck and covered formats as its next ready-to-run wagon in N gauge.

Almost incredibly, these wagons were originally constructed from 1952 and, while much-modified over the years, many remain in frontline service today.

Coded TD-452 by operators STVA, the IPA flats started life as single wagons intended for French automotive traffic, and operated in this way for many years.

During the 1980s and 1990s, as STVA found itself needing more ferry wagons suitable for traffic within Britain and to and from the Continent, many were narrowed, to conform to the smaller UK loading gauge, re-configured into permanent twin sets, and given the TOPS code IPA-A.

Due to problems with vehicle damage – often from stones either thrown up by passing trains or hurled by vandals – some wagons were fitted with side staves for canvas sheeting.  Then in the 2000s many were fitted with more permanent canvas side sheets and roofs for added protection.  Some of these were remarshalled into 4-car sets, and re-coded IPA-B (UIC designation Laadffoos).

Nowadays the wagons can be seen in all configurations – plain (usually loaded with vans and light commercial vehicles), with side staves, or fully covered.

The covered variants are particularly associated with Jaguar/Landrover traffic export traffic between Merseyside, the Midlands and docks at Southampton, Bristol and Dagenham.

Most have now been repainted into STVA’s current livery of bright red with white lettering.

The photographs are credited to Martyn Read.  The CADs are at an early stage, with more work to be done.

As ever, we can only proceed if enough people order!

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2018, 09:47:25 AM »
Very nice

Could weathered versions be offered to determine the level of interest?

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2018, 09:56:37 AM »
I knew buying all those OD white Transits would come in handy one day. :D I'm in. :thumbsup:
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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2018, 10:30:13 AM »
They'll need to make allot more soon  :D

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2018, 11:04:49 AM »
Some interesting choices as ever from Revolution and some IPAs are definitely top of my list.  Even running empty, it’s another set of wagons that’ll look good behind a Class 92 - or indeed a Class 90 if someone can please shrink an updated version one day.
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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2018, 11:43:48 AM »
Further photos and artwork here:

https://www.revolutiontrains.com/news/
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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2018, 11:45:59 PM »
I see these daily running from Southampton up north, and they also carry Range Rovers down to the docks too. Really need some of these...

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2018, 12:32:19 AM »
Do these run in fixed rakes.
Or can you mix with the car flats from the NGS?
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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2018, 01:58:39 AM »
Porkie, they are fixed in that they’re a twin vehicle or 4 vehicle set, but they can be mixed with other wagons depending on requirements. Last year they were running with some container flats that had car carrier platforms attached, like the base of an ISO container with the grid flooring.

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2018, 07:27:49 AM »
Do these run in fixed rakes.
Or can you mix with the car flats from the NGS?

Hi Porkie,

one of these pictures looks like a mix of the NGS car flats and IPAs to me, the other is a photo from the era we both model, I couldn't actually find a photo of our era with the exact mix of the NGS wagons and the IPAs, but I think that's due to my limited search. I am pretty sure they will have run together in reality on the wcml during the 90s.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/yorkshires-finest/5601262212/in/photolist-27AtRBW-NqdMvG-28FHDm1-299maJi-2az8HpM-28byNee-MLXgBA-8dqDAA-ZXvxsM-LmgESz-rPqkjB-9wXW7q-8yqiGi-VXdNLw-9xFU4X-a92cW7-24bBDsn-GSMSic-22BBDYJ-VPtEks-25JDLpK-YPFCy4-28qhik9-GPapws-nBPayp

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mkrail/14610394803/in/photolist-og56mF-gVR3uZ-VBCuh8-r3sMsv-myBsYT-dmQpJU-TUcPUB-84pMj2-kr44hC-nJk8v4-dmRXgQ-bVSCKL-myC5x8-VYR6BY-MLXgBA-9rnDhg-bn9qum-LmgESz-RSqhJ6-oUpVJ9-duAaXJ-8GBt6Z-Pe8fqs-24H83ub-2a7bcux-Hcrpwi-SwNY1s-axQNw4-pcjw4f-yvA6bz-gJSAXt-eVbWnh-9n4pSx-9kAJ6i-DU27GS-iLPhwi-erezQU-gQWX5s-r7NDch-26RzpJk-onTJbu-DH5eDu-p5uN8f-LJFhnk-cquX2G-pfmm2G-jS95uK-iVcQvV-dmRYJb-fgXjUD

Drifting slightly from your question, but during the era we are modelling they were also often mixed with some type of van (VBA? IZA?)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/58806173@N08/8407062482/in/photolist-dNUoM9-p5uaAu-Y5EqvQ-D1Qqy9-ea8L2L-D3y43u-ft82Ct-24rLaXV-p2fZ2X-dk3Fy1-dsdj2b-GvzM45-dsdacz-gMSjkd-eawoNv-aGh79r-F1o1wE-ZtfA1m-gRTMrE-cmm23W-f24uZV-aiqhDq-nHqv9i-9ZCpMU-ZbBYR9-aygWfm-23mkYPY-7caCKW-bF3JK8-23zGHG1-9Zzygz-pAarSg-ns5jFU-cCnudJ-aipg6W-papMMH-T3u64U-9ZCnTy-9BSDvQ-7c7rge-ncHQa9-conTtQ-asv2uP-23Ls4kd-nutYDf-Hpwoq3-23FKp1U-26cYytA-9ZCo75-pqnA7J

I wasn't sure what I was going to haul with 90 90027 on Maid's Morten, but after yesterday's announcement ~min 27 of this video looks interesting (maybe empty I am not sure I can afford all those transit vans :) )

https://youtu.be/dLNt0K2D_W0

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2018, 09:41:31 AM »
@dmck123, that's a great video, thanks for sharing

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2018, 01:39:40 PM »
Do these run in fixed rakes.
Or can you mix with the car flats from the NGS?

Hi Porkie,

one of these pictures looks like a mix of the NGS car flats and IPAs to me, the other is a photo from the era we both model, I couldn't actually find a photo of our era with the exact mix of the NGS wagons and the IPAs, but I think that's due to my limited search. I am pretty sure they will have run together in reality on the wcml during the 90s.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/yorkshires-finest/5601262212/in/photolist-27AtRBW-NqdMvG-28FHDm1-299maJi-2az8HpM-28byNee-MLXgBA-8dqDAA-ZXvxsM-LmgESz-rPqkjB-9wXW7q-8yqiGi-VXdNLw-9xFU4X-a92cW7-24bBDsn-GSMSic-22BBDYJ-VPtEks-25JDLpK-YPFCy4-28qhik9-GPapws-nBPayp

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mkrail/14610394803/in/photolist-og56mF-gVR3uZ-VBCuh8-r3sMsv-myBsYT-dmQpJU-TUcPUB-84pMj2-kr44hC-nJk8v4-dmRXgQ-bVSCKL-myC5x8-VYR6BY-MLXgBA-9rnDhg-bn9qum-LmgESz-RSqhJ6-oUpVJ9-duAaXJ-8GBt6Z-Pe8fqs-24H83ub-2a7bcux-Hcrpwi-SwNY1s-axQNw4-pcjw4f-yvA6bz-gJSAXt-eVbWnh-9n4pSx-9kAJ6i-DU27GS-iLPhwi-erezQU-gQWX5s-r7NDch-26RzpJk-onTJbu-DH5eDu-p5uN8f-LJFhnk-cquX2G-pfmm2G-jS95uK-iVcQvV-dmRYJb-fgXjUD

Drifting slightly from your question, but during the era we are modelling they were also often mixed with some type of van (VBA? IZA?)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/58806173@N08/8407062482/in/photolist-dNUoM9-p5uaAu-Y5EqvQ-D1Qqy9-ea8L2L-D3y43u-ft82Ct-24rLaXV-p2fZ2X-dk3Fy1-dsdj2b-GvzM45-dsdacz-gMSjkd-eawoNv-aGh79r-F1o1wE-ZtfA1m-gRTMrE-cmm23W-f24uZV-aiqhDq-nHqv9i-9ZCpMU-ZbBYR9-aygWfm-23mkYPY-7caCKW-bF3JK8-23zGHG1-9Zzygz-pAarSg-ns5jFU-cCnudJ-aipg6W-papMMH-T3u64U-9ZCnTy-9BSDvQ-7c7rge-ncHQa9-conTtQ-asv2uP-23Ls4kd-nutYDf-Hpwoq3-23FKp1U-26cYytA-9ZCo75-pqnA7J

I wasn't sure what I was going to haul with 90 90027 on Maid's Morten, but after yesterday's announcement ~min 27 of this video looks interesting (maybe empty I am not sure I can afford all those transit vans :) )

https://youtu.be/dLNt0K2D_W0

Thanks for your reply dmck123.

Absolutely love the links you have attached.
Defiantly a very good option for me now to invest a a mix of both wagons

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2018, 05:59:01 PM »
I’d love some of the double-deck ones which I believe share the same chassis, but really excited about the quad units, will definitely be in for a rake of those. Any 3D printed vans that can go on them cheaply?!

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2018, 06:10:40 PM »
I’d love some of the double-deck ones which I believe share the same chassis, but really excited about the quad units, will definitely be in for a rake of those. Any 3D printed vans that can go on them cheaply?!

RailNScale and the forum's own N-Train (Bob Davies) offer Ford Transits from the '70s onwards:

https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rail-n-scale?li=pb
https://www.shapeways.com/shops/ntrain?li=pb
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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2018, 10:00:47 PM »
Ouch, double the price of Oxford’s offering, maybe a few of those wouldn’t go amiss!

 

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