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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2018, 10:37:36 AM »
Hi

The best way to learn is by practicing. Get an old model and spray it, strip it and spray again until you can get a consistently good finish.

I have bought books but they only give the theory there is nothing better than actual experience. If you can find an airbrushing course then that would be worthwhile.

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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2018, 10:48:39 AM »
I'd recommend the recently released Airbrushing for Railway Modellers by George Dent as a good introductory compendium.


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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2018, 11:01:45 AM »
Me too, if printed literature is your thing, (and it is with me  :-[),

George Dent is very much an expert.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2018, 12:28:18 PM »
Iíve been watching this thread with interest, I managed to pick up an Iwata Hi-line HP-CH and an Iwata Power jet Pro compressor, next step is to watch a bunch of videos and reserve a spot in the shed or garage and learn how to use it.
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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2018, 08:11:32 PM »
Many thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I spent a couple of hours watching Youtube last night - easy! Ha!  :no:. The main thing that struck me about airbrushing is technique and that of course, will only come with practice.  I will be ordering some airbrush acrylics later tonight, mainly so I do not have to worry about getting the consistency right to start with, (thanks @Garyf ), although there are plenty of videos out there showing how to make your own thinners and cleaner.
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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2018, 10:06:29 PM »
By all means use home-made brews for cleaning - you'll need quite a lot of it - but it's best to use the paint manufacturer's product when you are thinning paint.

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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2018, 12:52:37 PM »
@dannyboy
If there is one tip that is definitely worth sharing its this: when you press the trigger make sure you are pointing the gun AWAY from the model. Only move towards the model when the paint and air is already coming out the nozzel. In other words dont fire directly at the model when you first time you press the trigger. And keep the gun moving!
If you do fire straight at the model ou usually end up with a blob of paint running down the model - ask me how I know.

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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2018, 04:49:31 PM »
The only one on Aldi's site at the moment is 79.99 and looks massive! Big enough to spray cars in 1:1 scale I think!
Is the Expo one on Hattons site any good? It looks a bit wimpy....

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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2019, 05:16:13 PM »
I've just come in from the shed before the airbrush, compressor, paint or something else within reach got sent flying out the window.  I am getting so frustrated at the moment and I hope someone can point out the obvious to me.  Last week I mixed up some regular Vallejo paint with valljo retarder and thinner, sprayed a footbridge no problem, actually quite pleased.

Popped out there for half an hour tonight to spray the roof (different colour) and it was just a nightmare. Despite following (roughly) the same mixing process, what paint that did come out just sputtered and spattered, I turned the pressure up and down but could just not get a good flow of paint.

I know I should get the vallejo air paint but the whole idea of the retarder and thinner is that I can use it in an airbrush.

I tipped the paint out, stripped the airbrush and cleaned it and tried again with no luck, so the shed is locked up and I'm waiting for my dinner in a right sulk now. HELP

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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2019, 06:15:05 PM »
I know the trauma Lawrence, I bought a few pots of that Vallejo paint thinking damn good quality and hoped using the right products id be able to at least try to get it right.

I never could, some days it would spray beautifully, others took me 2 hrs just too get it out the nozzle.

I gave up using Vallejo. I absolouty detest the stuff, Railmatch i can mix to the consistency i know fires out the gun, leave it in other railmatch pots, quick stir and away i go EVERYTIME now.

I would suggest that maybe the nozzle was dirty or something to do with the nozzle. Have you tried spraying just thinners through with no paint??

A lot on here recommended Railmatch or Phoenix paints to me when I was struggling and I must say I dont have half the issues i did with Vallejo.

Not much help but your not alone!!


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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2019, 08:14:07 PM »
I know the trauma Lawrence, I bought a few pots of that Vallejo paint thinking damn good quality and hoped using the right products id be able to at least try to get it right.

I never could, some days it would spray beautifully, others took me 2 hrs just too get it out the nozzle.

I gave up using Vallejo. I absolouty detest the stuff, Railmatch i can mix to the consistency i know fires out the gun, leave it in other railmatch pots, quick stir and away i go EVERYTIME now.

I would suggest that maybe the nozzle was dirty or something to do with the nozzle. Have you tried spraying just thinners through with no paint??

A lot on here recommended Railmatch or Phoenix paints to me when I was struggling and I must say I dont have half the issues i did with Vallejo.

Not much help but your not alone!!

Thanks Craig, I'll have you know my nozzle was immaculate  ;D actually I have got a bit anal about cleaning the whole airbrush after use so have confidence in that side of things. I have never used Phoenix or Railmatch but will look into what they offer, many thanks for the heads up.
*Quick edit, had a look at railmatch stuff, £8 a pot on Amazon, £3.50 elsewhere, what is the normal price for these, and is the propitiatory thinner and primer required?
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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2019, 09:04:58 PM »
I know the trauma Lawrence, I bought a few pots of that Vallejo paint thinking damn good quality and hoped using the right products id be able to at least try to get it right.

I never could, some days it would spray beautifully, others took me 2 hrs just too get it out the nozzle.

I gave up using Vallejo. I absolouty detest the stuff, Railmatch i can mix to the consistency i know fires out the gun, leave it in other railmatch pots, quick stir and away i go EVERYTIME now.

I would suggest that maybe the nozzle was dirty or something to do with the nozzle. Have you tried spraying just thinners through with no paint??

A lot on here recommended Railmatch or Phoenix paints to me when I was struggling and I must say I dont have half the issues i did with Vallejo.

Not much help but your not alone!!

Thanks Craig, I'll have you know my nozzle was immaculate  ;D actually I have got a bit anal about cleaning the whole airbrush after use so have confidence in that side of things. I have never used Phoenix or Railmatch but will look into what they offer, many thanks for the heads up.
*Quick edit, had a look at railmatch stuff, £8 a pot on Amazon, £3.50 elsewhere, what is the normal price for these, and is the propitiatory thinner and primer required?

I agree with Craig. I dont like spraying with acrylic paints which is what I guess the vallejo paint is. Phoenix paint on the other hand is enamel and can be thinned with white spirit. I can get tinlets of humbrol for about 1.50.

Are you sure your airbrush is clean? Have you tried reaming the nozel? Very very carefully obviously.

And one last question, can you spray white spirit through your air brush successfully? If you can, then it should be ok for paint.

HTH

Cheers
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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2019, 11:23:04 AM »
Watched a couple of videos online and am currently experimenting with an IPA/Water/Glycerine mixture, it seems to flow really well even at low pressure but takes an age to dry and is somewhat glossier then normal.
Thought I would mention this so @Newportnobby can be safe in the knowledge that I didn't blow the shed roof off  :D
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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2019, 04:46:31 PM »

Thought I would mention this so @Newportnobby can be safe in the knowledge that I didn't blow the shed roof off  :D

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Re: Airbrush for beginner?
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2019, 11:51:04 PM »
My two cents, I use this one as my first one for basic weathering of wagons, It works quite well imo and is incredibly cheap. I also bought a equally cheap compressor which wasn't really worth it, get a slightly better one than this one for sure! I also just use a 50/50 mix of acrylic and water. thoroughly mixed with a brush... a bit of trail and error sure, but it worked for me for practice and this non-detailed work.

 

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