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RevolutioN Sturgeon
« on: February 23, 2018, 11:56:38 AM »
STURGEON DECLARES REVOLUTION IN SCOTLAND!


Or rather, "Sturgeon!" Declares Revolution at Model Rail Scotland.

Revolution Trains is proposing the long-lived and versatile Sturgeon wagon as its next model aimed at the transition era enthusiast.

Based on a 1940s LNER design, and built from the mid-1950s onwards, they've seen service across the Network from Cornwall to the North of Scotland and from West Wales to East Anglia.

Designed to carry all manner of engineers' supplies, these characterful wagons feature distinctive low decks and while most were built with 7 drop down doors these, and the ends, were removable and many ran as flat wagons to carry track panels.











They could be seen in short cuts with other engineers' wagons such as Dogfish, Grampus or Salmons, or in longer rakes in track renewal trains.

The Revolution model will be produced by the same team that designed the Class B tankers, the first of which are scheduled for delivery very soon, and will feature similar levels of detail and finish.

To ensure the models are adequately weighted a large part of the deck will be diecast, and the model will feature NEM Couplers and, in the case of the versions without doors, removable ends.

The wagons were delivered in black, and Revolution are offering versions with and without doors in the original livery in single and triple packs.

A small number received the short-lived Gulf red livery, and this will also be offered in doorless versions only.

From the mid 1960s, with the adoption of British Rail's corporate image, departmental stock was repainted into olive green and this will be depicted on both 7-door and flat versions in single and triple packs.

In the late 1980s, with sectorisation, the Civil Engineering "Dutch" livery was introduced; the flat wagons were predominantly yellow, while those wagons that still retained doors had the standard grey/yellow colours.  Again, both these variants will be offered.




We anticipate this model will be priced between £28-30 and as ever we can only move forward with development and production if we know there is demand.

A small deposit secures your model and will get the project started.  As ever we will only produce models to match pre-orders.  While some retailers do pre-order models, these are invariably sold at a higher price, so there is nothing to be gained  by delaying your order, and the sooner we reach minimum numbers the sooner we can begin development.




Our Cargowaggon twin vans were unveiled at the DEMU Showcase exhibition in June, and we now have painted samples, so with enthusiastic support our models can progress quickly through the development process.




We are hoping that the widespread appeal of this characterful wagon, and the successful delivery of the attractive Class B tankers, will encourage modellers to back our third crowd-funded project aimed at the transition era.









This wonderfully evocative image shows a Black 5 on a short engineers train at Litherland in the 1960s.  The first wagon behind the loco is a 7-door Sturgeon in black livery.   Photo courtesy David Bryant.






Here, in the BR Blue era, 25159 passes Syston with a short rake comprising a brake van, an open wagon (possibly Grampus) and three Sturgeons with the doors removed but the ends still in place.  Photo courtesy Paul Townsend.






The wagons lasted well into the 21st century; here a single Sturgeon in CE "Dutch" livery is seen behind an EWS liveried Class 37 at Whifflet, near Coatbridge, in 2002.

« Last Edit: February 23, 2018, 12:05:51 PM by Tank »

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2018, 12:40:12 PM »
A interesting choice influenced no doubt by its striking appearance, the large size of the class (>800) and its longevity, spanning the early 1950s to 2000s.

On the downside it's a big wagon (>60ft) to fit into a cramped N Gauge yard and as a specialist PW vehicle it's not something you would have seen in a steam-era mixed goods train.     

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2018, 01:07:29 PM »
Lovely choice. Can you make it a bit rough around the edges so it won't look out of place with my NGS Salmons?


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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2018, 02:10:09 PM »
You almost think they would have also done a Salmon for release in Scotland alongside the mighty Sturgeon.
And are you sure the third wagon shown isn't in SNP yellow?


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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2018, 02:31:58 PM »
More prototype info can be found here

http://www.ltsv.com/w_profile_043.php

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2018, 02:52:52 PM »
You almost think they would have also done a Salmon for release in Scotland alongside the mighty Sturgeon.
And are you sure the third wagon shown isn't in SNP yellow?

It's Salmond... i don't think we want to start talking Scottish politics on here otherwise it will soon escalate into Westminster Politics, Brexit, EU etc etc   :no:

It's nice posting on here, lets keep it that way  :)

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2018, 03:05:23 PM »
I tried hard but could not find a Salmon with a -D suffix. And then the pun was lost.

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2018, 04:31:56 PM »
My first encounter with a Salmon was in a derailed engineer's train in a loop near Kings Langley. The trap points had done their job and prevented the train running on to the main line. Unfortunately the derailed loco was on a bridge which meant re-railing was a challenge requiring removal of a lot of the OHLE. Turned in to a lengthy Sunday job. The load of used rails on the Salmon had not moved an inch in the derailment with the chains and timber blocks holding everything firm.

I'll be committing to a few of these for the 1990s engineer's trains.

Mike

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Wondering how many pedants can dance of the head of a pin.


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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2018, 04:37:19 PM »
@red_death

Can we please have track laying cranes for them as well.

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brsturgeon/h1c8530e

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2018, 05:09:39 PM »
@red_death

Can we please have track laying cranes for them as well.

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brsturgeon/h1c8530e


Hi

Wouldn't the NGS addon cranes for the Salmon be suitable?

Cheers

Paul

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2018, 05:11:47 PM »
@red_death

Can we please have track laying cranes for them as well.

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brsturgeon/h1c8530e


Hi

Wouldn't the NGS addon cranes for the Salmon be suitable?

Cheers

Paul


No, as they have lost the mold and there will be no more :doh:

I was hoping that Revolution ones could be used with the N soc. Salmons.

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2018, 05:20:16 PM »
@red_death

Can we please have track laying cranes for them as well.

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brsturgeon/h1c8530e


Hi

Wouldn't the NGS addon cranes for the Salmon be suitable?

Cheers

Paul


No, as they have lost the mold and there will be no more :doh:

I was hoping that Revolution ones could be used with the N soc. Salmons.


Hi

Ah that would be a problem then.

Cheers

Paul

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2018, 05:24:10 PM »
@red_death

Can we please have track laying cranes for them as well.

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brsturgeon/h1c8530e


I already asked, and the answer was no as the NGS have the cranes.... so interesting that the NGS donít have any. Hopefully something will change.

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2018, 05:28:22 PM »
@red_death

Can we please have track laying cranes for them as well.

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brsturgeon/h1c8530e


I already asked, and the answer was no as the NGS have the cranes.... so interesting that the NGS donít have any. Hopefully something will change.


It's beyond "no cranes" the N Soc. no longer have the ability to make any more. @red_death

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Re: RevolutioN Sturgeon
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2018, 06:05:15 PM »
My memories of Sturgeons in the early 90's were that they were a bit of a problem to move around as they were restricted to 35mph and therefore made any train they were in a class 8.  Most of the CE trips that I had involvements with were timed as class 6 or 7 only, which made moving them round a bit of a nuisance!  Salmons were not much better but at least they could run at 45mph back then, the surviving Salmons have since been re-bogied and can now run at 60mph.

I would certainly have one or two just for the memories of my days with the BR CE department.

 

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