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Author Topic: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)  (Read 4794 times)

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2017, 11:45:54 AM »

Hi John,

Great project!  Thanks for posting. Do you have a track plan for the whole thing? 

Cheers

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2017, 04:02:58 PM »
Thanks all.

Ben, the track plan is at the beginning of the post. Thereís  also a couple of entries in the layout planning section.

Oh and with any luck Iíll have track laid before my Pendolinos arrive.

Regards,

John P

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2017, 03:47:51 AM »
Track laying commenced today.

First spent a couple of hours looking for my wire strippers.

Once they were found I started laying track only to realise that yet again all of my plans were missaligned.

I started again with my track drawings lined up at the south end of the layout and pinned everything down as I moved north.

Once this was done I was able to get my first piece of flex track and my first point and point motor in position.

More track and one more point with motor followed. All flex track is having holes pre-drilled for track pins and 2 wires soldered to the bottom of the rails. All points get 3 holes drilled, the spring removed (for slow action),plus one wire added to the frog, for polarity switching. In my experience Peco points with the spring removed don't conduct very well.

BTW all track is Code 55, and all points are Electrofrog with Tortoise point motors. Insulating rail joiners are used on all point rails except for those at the toe end.

Both the point motors installed have been tested and they work. Tomorrow, after adding a bit more track, I'll be wiring up my Z21 and trying out a loco to make sure that all the track is smooth.

Here's few pictures.







The first point motor got repositioned about 3 times so it's in a hole which is too big, later on I'll be packing it out a little and adding some balsa or plastic card to cover the enormous hole, currently hidden under the paper plan.

I now have 3.5 days until the grandchildren arrive.

Regards,

John

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2017, 07:01:22 AM »
Looks good. Nice sweeping curves. Tempted to do any sort of superelevation? I just put strips of 1mmcard under mine, subtle, but it works.

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2017, 10:16:54 AM »
Ben, the track plan is at the beginning of the post. Thereís  also a couple of entries in the layout planning section.

Oh and with any luck Iíll have track laid before my Pendolinos arrive.

Regards,

John P

D'oh - not sure how I missed that!  Interesting concept and as others have said, some lovely graceful curves...

Progress looking good - Pendolinos will look great sweeping through there!

Cheers

Ben A.



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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2017, 02:31:55 PM »
Looks good. Nice sweeping curves. Tempted to do any sort of superelevation? I just put strips of 1mmcard under mine, subtle, but it works.

Yes I did plan on superelevation and then promptly forgot about it.

Thanks for the reminder.

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2017, 09:07:29 PM »
 :hellosign: Thanks for the updates John, your off to a great start
        regards Derek.

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2017, 03:00:28 AM »
A little more progress today

4 more points were added and a little more track.

I refined my technique for soldering to track and to point vees.

I also worked a little more on fitting the point motors.

Hereís the cutout. I cut two rebates to support the tortoise.



Hereís the mess under the baseboards.



This is the piercing saw used to make the cuts



Hereís the latest track work





Regards,

John P


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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2017, 09:48:33 AM »
Good grief! Those tortoises are monstrous :goggleeyes: Are you sure they're not turtles?

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2017, 12:54:23 PM »
Good grief! Those tortoises are monstrous :goggleeyes: Are you sure they're not turtles?

Great A'Tuin?

Still the best point motors on the market, as far as my money is concerned :thumbsup:

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2017, 02:34:37 PM »
Tortoises are pretty big so you have to plan carefully when you add them to a complex area of point work. But they can be offset either side of the track and turned around, so there is generally a way to get things done.

Normally they are mounted under the baseboard, so you can't see them. Mine will be covered before I start on ballasting.

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2017, 06:53:32 PM »
How do you fit them if you have a lot close together? Surely the footprint they need is prohibitive?

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2017, 07:06:51 PM »
So...Iím new to these tortoise point motors.
They are now in place but exactly how do I wire these up?


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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2017, 08:00:35 PM »
How do you fit them if you have a lot close together? Surely the footprint they need is prohibitive?

They aren't mounted directly underneath the point, they are offset to one side, they also be used with the body of the tortoise behind the point, or in front of it. There is also the provision to offset the wire even more as they are guided through a small plastic part that has 3 holes for the wire, on in the middle and the other two to either side.

For a ladder of points in a fiddle yard there's no issue. I also used them on a single slip on my old layout.

Like I said, with a bit of thought you can arrange them to fit almost anywhere.

I expect that they wouldn't be quite as useful for a 'Z' Gauge fiddle yard.

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2017, 08:01:38 PM »
So...Iím new to point motors.
They are now in place but exactly how do I wire these up?




I could explain, but those animal rights people would be after me again!!

John P

 

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