Class 50, Class 59, prototype HST, Battle of Britain will be shelved for now

[njee20]

But to that end a "fire sale on n gauge" is a condtradiction in terms. You're being too literal. They were selling n gauge off very cheap and showcasing new O and OO.

No need to tag me when you're replying to me immediately either. I don't need 3 notifications!

[Newportnobby]

This thread started out in an interesting way but I'm tired of all the sniping going on so it will remain in abeyance as far as I'm concerned

[NeMo]

But to that end a "fire sale on n gauge" is a condtradiction in terms. You're being too literal. They were selling n gauge off very cheap and showcasing new O and OO.

Nope, merely trying to help. Your use of "fire sale" was simply incorrect and implied Dapol were getting rid of their N gauge stuff because of financial difficulties. Dapol have recently posted on their Facebook page and elsewhere that they're going to be a bit more aggressive about unwarranted speculation on forums. I think something was said on RMWeb that they got wind of, and didn't like. Whether it was actually libellous others could say. But we should all be a bit more careful how we phrase things. 

Sure, they were showcasing 0 and 00. Right now, they seem to be very profitable for Dapol, and good luck to them, because developing those products can help N (witness the Dapol D6300 and 'Western' models for example).

If you're simply voicing disappointment with Dapol for not showcasing some new N gauge models at Alexandra Palace, then sure, I agree with you! 

Cheers, NeMo

[njee20]

I didn't use it at all... I'm just quoting the what someone else said. In the context it was used (by someone else) a fire sale by your definition makes no sense. Cheers for the patronising condescension though!

I'm not voicing anything. It was someone else's quote.

[dodger]

This thread started out in an interesting way but I'm tired of all the sniping going on so it will remain in abeyance as far as I'm concerned

Quite agree with you.

Dodger

[koyli55002]

May I just make it clear that my initial post regarding the alleged "fire sale" was only in an attempt to receive some clarification of what had been displayed on the Dapol stand at Alexandra Palace, since I had been unable to attend ?

[Nik96]

@koyli55002 in modern terms you are correct it was a fire sale,

They had cleared all the Manors which was good for them by the end of today.

[koyli55002]

@koyli55002 in modern terms you are correct it was a fire sale,

They had cleared all the Manors which was good for them by the end of today.

Well, let us hope that it gives them some funds to "make the financial situation more favourable" ?
Personally, I fail to understand how a locomotive with a fifty year history can be "shelved", whilst still going ahead with a model of one which is barely in service, but then what do I know ?

[njee20]

Do you mean the 68? It's as Simple as they've spent the money already.

[Bingley Hall]

Do you mean the 68? It's as Simple as they've spent the money already.

And has recently become clearly apparent in Revolution's offerings there's more money to be made in modern image.

[njee20]

I think that's a bit of a leap. Modern models appear to be more successful in crowd funded ventures.  That's not quite the same.

[Karhedron]

The 68s also offer the opportunity to sell another batch of Mk3 coaches in appropriate liveries. Despite their longevity, Dapol don't sell much rolling stock for the Class 50s, ironically Farish will benefit more in terms of rolling stock sales. Never underestimate the returns you can make by finding new ways to sell your existing offerings.

[red_death]

Personally, I fail to understand how a locomotive with a fifty year history can be "shelved", whilst still going ahead with a model of one which is barely in service, but then what do I know ?

Because there are already 2 RTR models of a 50 available (Farish and CJM).  Even if you think the Farish model is terrible, it has still sold in considerable numbers.

Whereas there is no model of the 68...

As I've said previously the N gauge market is so shallow that (with a few exceptions eg 37/47/66/black 5/A3/A4 etc) you are potentially on a real hiding to nothing by duplicating an existing model.

Cheers, Mike

[Ben A]

And has recently become clearly apparent in Revolution's offerings there's more money to be made in modern image.

Hi there,

As has already been mentioned, I am not sure we can say there are more sales in modern image N, or just that those modelling the present day are more receptive to crowd-funding.

We should have first samples of the Class B tanker soon - which is squarely aimed at the late-50s/60s/70s/80s modeller - and I am wondering whether customers for this era want to see something tangible before they commit.

When we come to close the order book on this model we may have a more accurate idea of the relative size of the markets.

cheers

Ben A.

[Snowwolflair]

I expect to see a lot of new liveries and re-runs of liveries on existing tooling from Dapol.  We might even see old tooling revisited.

The underlying Dapol problem is dead stock sitting in the warehouse.  If you sell 2,500 of a 4,000 in the first three months and the rest takes two years to sell it that means hundreds of thousands of pounds of dead money.  As I understand it new liveries and re-runs don't have to be ordered in such quantities.