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Author Topic: Suggestion for RevolutioN - class 175  (Read 1479 times)

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Offline matt-b

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Suggestion for RevolutioN - class 175
« on: October 20, 2016, 10:24:39 AM »
Must be one of the few modern dmu's that never get mentioned.
Been around a while now so there could be a few livery options, plus with Arriva changing there colours on all other units it must be there turn into the paint shop soon.
2 and 3 car option?


What's people's throughts?


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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - class 175
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2016, 10:35:45 AM »
There is a lot on commonality between the Class 175 and 180 DMUs (just the outer ends are different), so both types could be represented quite easily.

Although the 175s are pretty much limited to Wales and the North-West, the 180s can be seen all over the ECML and GWR Routes and have a lot of livery options available.
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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - class 175
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2016, 11:03:14 AM »
Yes I see you're point, though I would always vote for the 175 cause...

A) they travel past where I am 5 times a hour.
B) formations of 2 or 3 cars mean they are more realistic for people who only have small layouts.


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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - class 175
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2016, 11:48:01 AM »

Hello all,

The 175/180 family is a really good idea, and one that we have certainly considered.

But of course we need to get a few other projects delivered first...

Cheers

Ben A.



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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - class 175
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2016, 10:08:53 PM »
Ooooohhhh, now this would make my vision of a north wales coast layout a reality.
I'd just need to get myself a Pendo as well ....
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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - class 175
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2016, 12:48:48 AM »
Would love to get a 180...

You'll decide to do that a week after I finish the Shapeways kit in my stash...

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - class 175
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2016, 04:45:10 AM »

Hello all,

The 175/180 family is a really good idea, and one that we have certainly considered.

But of course we need to get a few other projects delivered first...

Cheers

Ben A.

Ben,
Just don't leave any documents lying around.  Then you can announce it yourself  :D

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - class 175
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2016, 10:04:35 AM »
Ben,
Just don't leave any documents lying around.  Then you can announce it yourself  :D

Good point!  Or better still, we won't send confidential information that can be later blurted out on the internet!

Cheers

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - class 175
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2016, 10:10:16 AM »

Hello all,

The 175/180 family is a really good idea, and one that we have certainly considered.

But of course we need to get a few other projects delivered first...

Cheers

Ben A.


Grand Central class 180 please  :D

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - class 175
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2016, 10:00:24 PM »
Of course we need to let Mike and Ben work on what they have first but always nice to future possible projects we cant have everything at once plus I know my wallet will soon be begging for mercy!

I was passing through London today on the way home which gave me a chance to have a look at the 180s then the 175s at Crewe while there is certainly a high degree of commonality (no surprise as they come from the Coradia family) there are also numerous differences, the most obvious is the front ends, which on there own could be a potential get around to avoid having to do 2 complete sets of tooling for the bodies.
However there are a number of differences on the bodies and undercarriages which would mean you would need individual toolings for each class to get accurate models which is what Mike and Ben are producing not going for short cuts and producing something which is there or there abouts.

I am not booing the idea of either a 175 or 180 as I would love both, but have to be realistic and say due to the differences its one or the other (for now).

Just as a general note of interest while the 175s have spent most of their operational lives working the services along the North Wales Coast and the Manchester - South Wales services, when they were first introduced there was an issue with the platform gauging's which meant that the 175s spent the first 6 months operating local service a number of which were in the Manchester area. I know for Certain the 08:15 Manchester to Chester via Altrincham Service used had them on as I use to get that service every day to school back in the day.

But just as interesting the 5 of the 180 sets spent IIRC 6 months operating from Manchester Victoria to Blackpool Services about 4 years ago as they weren't been used by anyone and Northern needed to boost seats for the summer holiday season. They were in the old First livery and looked very dated but compared to a Pacer..... well no comparison you are meant to be ill on the roller coasters at the pleasure beech not on the way there! 
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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - class 175
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2016, 12:41:03 AM »
From experience of the Hull Trains 180s (hateful, unreliable thinks - can we have our 222s back please?), I think you will need 5 different body shells, 5 different interiors and at least three different underframe mouldings for a 5-car unit... That means high tooling costs for the size of the train (compared to I think it's 6 or 7 different body shells/8 interiors for an 11 car Pendolino).

They were in the old First livery and looked very dated but compared to a Pacer..... well no comparison you are meant to be ill on the roller coasters at the pleasure beech not on the way there!
But at least the pacer would get you there eventually... If the pacer is compared to the roller-coaster, buying a ticket for the Adelante was like a visit to the casino!!

 

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