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Started by Drakken, May 27, 2016, 05:19:38 PM

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JasonBz

The shiny new compressors from Holmans certainly add some colour to the scene....

You can buy them in 4mm scale from KMRC but not alas in N  :(

zwilnik

Quote from: Drakken on May 27, 2016, 07:01:03 PM
I really liked this photo, Looking forward to lots of weathering and finally getting something sorted for a Goods yard.

I'm sure this was the link: http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/headlines---latest-reports-and-photographs/category/all/11

Drump Lane Goods Yard D1013 Western Ranger shunts a very full yard with a consist including three brand new compressors from Holmans. Meantime Class 25 7577 passes by with yet more freight, busy times in the 70's. Copyright Sid Sponheimer

Yup lots of standard BR bauxite box vans and open wagons. If you're up for a little bit of kit building and painting the various Peco kit ones are a great way to make up a goods yard full of them for a lower price. Also gives you the opportunity to individualise and customize them too.

Drakken

Found this on RMWeb and I'm definatley having some on my layout  :beers:

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_08_2015/post-5204-0-62252100-1440667583.jpg

I'm sure it was yourself I read posted about the Peco kit's in the past so already have two to try my building skills out :)

talisman56

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 Not to put a fly in the ointment, but without seeing the end of the van or a running number (as is usual, the van in question carries many journeys-worth of grime), the van in the OP could be either a CCT (end doors, 4 vents) or a PMV (fixed end, 2 vents). The former have been issued several times by Dapol, the latter are imminent releases by Farish.
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Newportnobby

Quote from: talisman56 on May 28, 2016, 11:46:37 AM
the van in the OP could be either a CCT (end doors, 4 vents) or a PMV (fixed end, 2 vents). The former have been issued several times by Dapol, the latter are imminent releases by Farish.

Just so as I'm not confused, do you mean PLV e.g. Farish 374-415/6/7 as opposed to the PMV you mention or are they one and the same thing :dunce:. The PLV has windows which the one in OP does not appear to have :confused2:

talisman56

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Quote from: newportnobby on May 28, 2016, 01:54:59 PM
Quote from: talisman56 on May 28, 2016, 11:46:37 AM
the van in the OP could be either a CCT (end doors, 4 vents) or a PMV (fixed end, 2 vents). The former have been issued several times by Dapol, the latter are imminent releases by Farish.

Just so as I'm not confused, do you mean PLV e.g. Farish 374-415/6/7 as opposed to the PMV you mention or are they one and the same thing :dunce:. The PLV has windows which the one in OP does not appear to have :confused2:

Now I've had a chance to get near to my reference 'bibles'... ;)

There were three different Southern Passenger Vans (in order of introduction):
1) The PLV (SR designation) or PMV (BR); fixed ends with one vent each end. Some of the earlier ones had none, just relying on the four vents each side, one under each window, or one vent each end and none in the sides. They went through the usual even planked, uneven (two wide, two narrow) planked and plywood side (with planked doors) versions the standard SR 12T van went through. There was also a 'plastic' version with 'floating' body similar to 'Shock' vans (numbering ten) outshopped under Mr. Bulleid's tenure.
2) The 'CovCar' (SR) or CCT (BR); from the side, identical to the standard PLV/PMV, they had doors and a drop-flap at each end, two vents in each door. Like the PLV/PMV, the sides had the three versions.
3) The Van 'C' (SR) or PMY (BR), which looks similar to the PLV/PMV but has a guard's office in the centre of the vehicle. There were no windows in the side of the van but there were windows in the doors. The sides were uneven planked. When the Guard's compartment was decommissioned in later years these vans were reclassified 'BY'.

Dapol have produced the 'CovCar'/CCT (several batches going back almost to the start of their involvement in 'N' gauge) and the Van 'C'/PMY (two models coming out with each batch of Maunsells); Farish are imminently releasing the 'standard' PLV/PMV.
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zwilnik

Remember your average wagon or van is likely to have been patched up and altered quite a bit in its lifetime and different batches built often had subtle (and not so subtle) changes so it's not really that critical to get the exact van in the photo. You'll see a lot of variation in Paul Bartlett's photos for instance.

Also, you can have a lot of fun 'tweaking' rolling stock into different versions (one of the reasons I like messing with the Peco kits)

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