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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #120 on: February 09, 2012, 05:40:25 PM »
Personally I think your price point is way, way too low! You are talking about price comparable with Peco, but to my mind that is crazy - you can't hope to compete on the sorts of volumes that Peco churn out with tooling that is paid for.

I would have expected to pay more in the region of 15 (min) - 30 (max).

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #121 on: February 09, 2012, 05:51:19 PM »
if you had to use styrene, then injection mounding would be the future, and that just silly money once you consider the tooling for each design.

I was thinking something like:
polish the part with mold release,
build a lego box, big enough to hold the base, using a sheet of styrene as a base.
use tacky way to hold the base in place, then pour casting resin over it.
once hardened deconstruct the lego and remove the styrene base and original part.
Then make a new base to replace the styrene with a pouring hole in it.
Then you are ready to cast.

for better detail, you can place the part in a vacuum chamber after pouring (these can be made with old fridge compressors to generate vacuum), when you apply the vacuum, all the air bubbles will gas off.
Another option is to build a machine that spins the mold quite quickly (must be balanced) then the heavier material that has been poured will gravitate towards the outside.

If you want to do a low cost experiment, then a certian vibrating product held against the mold will help release air bubbles and compact the material. the adjustable nature on some of these helps matching the frequency to maximise effectiveness.
Crikey that was 'interesting' to phrase


Might it be possible to make a universal base that only has webbing down one side so it is flexible. Then you could sell different jigs to shape the base, once the rails were bonded in they would hopefully hold the base in position on removal.


On another topic, you mentioned that your a camera related man, do you ever get any DSLR bodies for sale ever.

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #122 on: February 09, 2012, 06:07:03 PM »
Hi Ash,

Thanks for the details, much appreciated!

No, we only design and sell accessories for DSLR's rather than sell the bodies themselves.
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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #123 on: February 09, 2012, 06:10:43 PM »
Not sure if the data will be useful, but I have started a new poll asking what price you would be willing to pay for a turnout kit :P
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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #124 on: February 13, 2012, 04:29:55 PM »
Hi Guys,

Well, I've done it :) I've purchased a CNC mill/router which I will take delivery of this week for milling the turnout bases. Little bit of a learning curve to get her running but should work out good for what we need!
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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #125 on: February 13, 2012, 04:36:54 PM »
Very exciting Wayne!  Have you used one before?  I haven't used one since I was at school. ;D

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #126 on: February 13, 2012, 04:58:19 PM »
Ooh! Sounds like production is just round the corner!  :thumbsup:
Never had things like that at my school.
Worth too much and would have been nicked in no time!  :smiley-laughing:
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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #127 on: February 13, 2012, 05:25:28 PM »
Hey guys,

Not used one before, no. I have a 3D printer with 3 axis stepper motors in a similar fashion, but that is a 'click print and go' afair.

The CNC mill has a much bigger learning curve, both hardware and software but I am confident and done a fair bit of research already. The hardest part is finding the best method of holding down such thin sheets of styrene without it moving or lifting....double sided tape where are you? :D
« Last Edit: February 13, 2012, 05:27:35 PM by Wayne Kinney »
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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #128 on: February 16, 2012, 07:35:53 PM »
Hi Guys,

New poll added 'What price would you pay for 1 yard (915mm) of fiNetrax plain line bullhead flexi track?'.

The CNC mill arrived and I now have it up and running. I will need to experiment with it to get good results, but hope to have some sample turnout bases to show soon :)
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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #129 on: February 21, 2012, 09:16:03 AM »
Hey,

Well, I have had the CNC mill for a few days and and starting to get good results. I am waiting for 1mm and 2mm diameter milling cutters to arrive, as well as a few material choices. I am enjoying this!

I am glad I made the plung to get the CNC mill, it allows me the freedom to churn out and prototype new turnout bases very quickly.

More to follow :)
« Last Edit: February 21, 2012, 11:03:12 AM by Wayne Kinney »
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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #130 on: February 21, 2012, 09:20:55 AM »
I'm jealous that you've got a CNC machine, but I'm equally excited to see your project work out for you. :D  It's great to hear about it on here.  Good luck with the next stage!

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #131 on: February 22, 2012, 09:49:36 PM »
My comments about your projectare;
1 Great idea.
2 Turnouts  I feel the depth left for ballasting is not workable and suggest doubling the depth. This will have knock on effects, the plain track sleeper depth will have to be increased to suit; and all items will be stronger and more suitable for portable and exhibition layouts.
3 Flat bottom rail track and turnouts are also essential.
4 A range of points with switches of larger radius than currently found with a rrange of parts to produce custom turnouts
5 A well designed simple and reliable system to motorise the turout with slow acting and solenoid motors, in the case of solenoids the tiebar assembly will require to be man enough to handle the jolts from the motor without falling apart rapidly.

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #132 on: February 23, 2012, 02:36:31 PM »
Hiya,

The thickness of the sleepers will be 1mm with 0.3 - 0.35mm webbing, giving around 0.65mm of ballasting depth.

The investment for bullhead rail chairs and the like will be close to 9000 plus, I would need to see how if/when I recoupe the costs involve before I could even think about flatbottom or concrete sleepers, unfortunately.

Components will be available seperately for custom turnouts, I am even thinking of providing a service to mill custom bases from user templot files, with pre drilled holes for chairs.
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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #133 on: February 23, 2012, 08:53:27 PM »
What milling machine have you got.

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #134 on: February 24, 2012, 11:38:47 AM »
Hi,

Its a chinese 3040 from ebay, I am very impressed with it.

Below is a test base I have milled with it. This is too thick @ 1.5mm, it will be 1mm thick, just waiting for material to arrive, what do you think?





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