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Author Topic: Kato single crossover, disguising concrete sleepers?  (Read 147 times)

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Offline Derwentbob

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Kato single crossover, disguising concrete sleepers?
« on: November 08, 2019, 12:50:45 PM »
Hello folks, I need at least a couple of single crossovers between the inner and outer tracks on a double track oval. Normally I would just set up a couple of left hand turnouts with insulated joiners between them but I gather the Kato #6 turnouts don't allow the track spacing to be maintained. I would use the 20-230 single crossover but it appears to have a mixture of concrete and orange (steel?) sleepers. My questions are:

1. does this crossover isolate over the middle so I can use it between two separate controllers, one on each loop?

2. is it insulated or electric frog?

3. how difficult would it be to disguise the sleepers and make them look like wood? Paint job or milliput remodelling?

Your wisdom upon the subject will be much appreciated.
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Re: Kato single crossover, disguising concrete sleepers?
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2019, 01:14:55 PM »
When you say the #6 points as a crossover won't maintain track spacing, in what way is that - too narrow or too wide? If too narrow is there not a small piece that can be inserted in the middle?  I find it hard to believe Kato wouldn't provide some means of using these points with the Unitrack system's standard track centres.
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Re: Kato single crossover, disguising concrete sleepers?
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2019, 01:39:30 PM »
It seems that two opposing #6 turnouts give a 49.5mm track centre separation whereas concentric ovals have 33mm between track centres.
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Re: Kato single crossover, disguising concrete sleepers?
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2019, 01:50:03 PM »
The single crossover 20-230 you mention is basically two #4 points with a radii of 481 mm whereas two #6 points have a radii of 718 mm, hence the difference in spacing. 

I have not used 20-230 so cannot comment on the isolation arrangement, it may have the same function as normal #4 points? Would suggest you speak to Keith at Train Trax (who advertises on this site), I have no connection other than as a satisfied customer.

HTH

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Re: Kato single crossover, disguising concrete sleepers?
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2019, 03:05:24 PM »
I used the 20-210 double crossover. It allows trains to cross from one track to another and is insulated but trains tend to get stuck on the crossing unless traveling fast. You can use two controllers, one on each loop if not set for crossing over. It works, but I would not want to use it all the time to switch tracks.

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Re: Kato single crossover, disguising concrete sleepers?
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2019, 03:35:36 PM »
I looked at the scissor crossing but it looked a bit fiddly and with at least two being needed I am not sure the cost is justified. I have just ordered the BM2 set from Traintrax so I will have a play with that for a while but I might just risk it and buy a single crossover to see if it will convert to wooden sleepers.
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Re: Kato single crossover, disguising concrete sleepers?
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2019, 10:10:06 PM »
the sleepers are moulded as one piece with the track bed, so you could paint them individually?

be cautious about paint getting inside a 4-way crossing mechanism or on the point blades.

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