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Author Topic: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.  (Read 60947 times)

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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #240 on: February 02, 2017, 07:17:52 PM »
Thank you for your help, guys!

My problem is a mainline track has to be perpendicular to the layout edge (at the top and bottom).
I might run the main oblique to the layout edge after 90+ turn at the top.  I like the effect of a train running off angle from the layout edge.
How can I do this within three feet?

JasonBz! How are you doing?
I know what you mean.
I'm not sure a bridge on 9" curve. (maybe less than 9". Yes, it's a forbidden number!!)
That's why I put a bridge on a short straight part but I might think it again.
Do you think I can somehow model on a bridge on a tight curves and still looks OK?  All of the overhang and everthing. Is it doable? If yes, I can see whole another possibility here!!

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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #241 on: February 20, 2017, 05:27:23 PM »
Hello!

Due to lack of imagination,
I haven't come up with a new trackplan yet.
Even Barney the dinosaur says "use your imagination".
Still, I can't think of anything!

But I started building a benchwork for the extension.
I read somewhere that "N" doesn't require heavy duty benchwork for a shelf layout so I made it with Foamcore boards.
It cost me nothing. I used scrap sheets that I found in my closet.
Well, I like the light weight of the benchwork but it's too fragile to my taste. 
I'm operating in extremely small space so I can see my elbow punch would destroy everything!!
On top of that, I noticed a noise while running on it even "N" size!
Probably I can remedy by using cork. But I wanted to put the tracks directly on top of whatever I'm using.
Because I want my tracks to be same height as rest of scenery.



Maybe end up not using it.

What's your benchwork made of?

Dats


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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #242 on: February 26, 2017, 03:19:10 PM »
Hello?

Well, my Foamcore benchwork is super light weight  also super useless at the moment.
I went back to the CARD(board) technology for more benchwork experiment.

Currently I have a "L" shape layout. Now I want to make it to a "C' shape as mentioned before. Eventually I want it to be an "O" shape layout in the future.
Last section would cross the entrance door to the closet so it needs to be removal.
First idea was making it as a drop bridge section for that.
Then yesterday, when I was in the bathroom doing my business, it hit me with the idea like a lighting while I'm flashing the toilet. No wonder it called a "flash of lighting".
So I made a mock up using CARD.
I made a removal section as a "swinging arm" that fold in to extension part.
I don't think I'm explaining right so here the pictures.

When it not been used, it'll be folded then attached to the extension part of benchwork.

When I use it, just swing the arm open.

Completely open. It makes a "L" shape now.

One problem is the arm length. My extension part is so short that its arm isn't long enough to cross the door completely.
I still have to use the closet as... well,... closet. Not only my train layout so I need to have an access to normal use of closet. That makes more challenging.

I need more ideas.
You know what? I I'll go back to bathroom for more "flash of lighting" experience.
I'll report it back to you.

Dats

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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #243 on: February 26, 2017, 04:43:43 PM »

while I'm flashing the toilet.  You can get locked up for that  ;)
I made a removal section as a "swinging arm" that fold in to extension part. That is a very interesting idea  :thumbsup:
David.
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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #244 on: February 26, 2017, 11:47:49 PM »
Hi Dats

I've just been thinking about your problem when out walking the dog. Basically, the three options you have for getting the track across the door are lift-out section, drawbridge, and swing bridge. Just some thoughts on each of these:

1. Lift-out section - probably the easiest to make, but scenery on top of board more subject to damage. Also, provision will need to be made for electrical connection when section put in place.

2. Drawbridge - probably the second easiest to make. Can be made wider than the swing bridge without interfering with door opening. Scenic items on bridge will all have to be glued down. Hinge will need to be set back from track join.

3. Swing bridge - needs a good solid support for hinge. Keeps scenery horizontal. Maybe the hardest to make, but will be the easiest to use.

Just my thoughts on what I imagine your situation to be.

I'm curious as to where in the closet your clothes go if they are in there as well as your layout.   

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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #245 on: February 27, 2017, 10:16:45 PM »
Maybe it's the water closet?
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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #246 on: March 02, 2017, 05:40:29 PM »
Hi Webbo

Exactly! You clearly summarized my layout situation!! Thank you!
I'm still thinking about those options. I bought a couple of lumber for the extension already but I don't know what to do yet.
A Foamcore benchwork is sadly abandoned for now.
I've been thinking that if I combine with two inch insulation board and hardboard fascia, it might withstand with my elbow punch.
Those light weight is just nice!! You can move three feet section with one hand!
Oh yes, Webbo. I'm hungging my clothes underneath of my benchwork.
I got the idea from watching a show about living in a small Manhattan apartment.
She was installing short pole sticking out from the closet wall and hungging her clothes that way instead of a bar across all the closet width. 

Hi Donald

How are you doing?
Unfortunately my closet is not WC.
If I win lottery, I would build a huge bathroom and surrounding by a layout.
I would have more great ideas that way.
Besides, no more emergency while building a layout. You're already in a bathroom!
What a concept!!
You have to give me a credit, I came up with this idea while I'm not in a bathroom.

OK, that's enough.
I have two reportable occurrences on my layout.

First, I successfully installed a decoder on my new GP9.
Yes, it's a big deal for my standard.
I've done it before but it was so long ago that I forgot everything!
The loco is a little bit noisy and start up need a lot of power so I need to adjust CV for starting up.



I also built a free paper electrical box. I found it on this forum's N gauge link thread.
I thank you Benchy and railsquid for the link.
If you zoom in, you can see my avatar picture's graffiti face on it.
I haven't made s foundation for it yet.


Hopefully I can make decisions about benchwork within two weeks so I can actually start building something.

Dats
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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #247 on: March 03, 2017, 01:42:11 AM »
Considering how small it is, that is an amazing job on the electrical box, Dats. How did you manage to get your avatar that small?

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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #248 on: March 04, 2017, 05:20:31 AM »
Hi Webbo

I just drew the face with a mechanical pencil.
Probably I'll rebuild it in the future.
I build a soda machine from same website. I messed it up with the size. It's too big.


A pucture of the Yardmaster gulping down soda.

Ok, This is how it went.

I heard a male voice saying "....use me...use me!...."
I asked who he is.
And he replied ".....Your rubbish..... built .....Foamcore benchwork......."
Then I yell at the voice "Hey, Leave me alone! I have lumber now!"
He replied "....give me a chance, I can change..."
I told the voice "You sound like a wimpy guy trying winning back an ex-garilfrend!"
Then I woke up.

As result of the experience,
I made the Foamcore benchwork part as a tray to receive a two inches pink insulation board which is an actual scenic part. (not glued to the base and removable.)
My yard section is same way. I didn't bother glue it to its base.
So far the foamcore base is pretty rigid.
I punched it with love and no damage.
I always can change it to lumber built benchwork when I need it.
Also I can proudly say "it made out of Foamcore. Just like a house made out of gingerbread."

A removable pink Frankenstein insulation board onto a Foamcore base.

A Happy marriage of a future scenic board and a base board.

I don't know why I'm obsessed with a light weight benchwork.
You make a light weight base because you want to move it but if it can't handle bumping and rough handling of moving, what's the point of making a light weight?

Well, three possible answers to that.

1. Trying to experiment with different methods.
2. The owner of the Closet Branch is an idiot.
3. Because the owner likes lovely and tender things.

I've been contemplating this matter for two minutes and half, I concluded that the answer is 2. Cheers.

Dats

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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #249 on: March 05, 2017, 08:33:06 PM »
hey dats - I'm glad I'm not the only one with voices in the head!

Today though, I had loud voices inside and outside my head when I had spent 2 hours replacing a complicated switch and wiring combo that was clearly faulty, only to discover that 'actually' I had managed to park a loco just slightly across an isolation joint further down the line and that really, there was nothing wrong with the wiring at all.

2 hours of wiring fun for no gain in real life.  I am No.2 also!

cheers

Donald

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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #250 on: March 05, 2017, 09:19:10 PM »
Dats!

You answered my question in your postings about your DCC installation on your new GP9.  As for its slow running, all Atlas locos are built with slow running motors.  It's deliberate, and also sometimes very frustrating.  It can be cured by changing CV settings, as you said.

Is it still needing renumbering?

Andy
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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #251 on: March 05, 2017, 11:17:51 PM »
Hi Dats

This foamcore seems to have a real hold on you. Apparently, we dream as a way of our brains resolving our day to day issues. I think you wanted it all along, and your dreams are telling you to admit it. And you have.

I love your attention to detail and weathering as shown in the top photo. Yes, the soda machine may be a bit big or the yardmaster pretty small. Perhaps you can turn it into a phone box?

I have a red and white soda machine that has no lettering on it. Where did you get your tiny Coca Cola decal?

Webbo

 

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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #252 on: March 09, 2017, 06:50:30 PM »
Hi guys

Master builder Donald! How are you doing?
Yeah, we all have a "Duh" moment once in awhile.
Only difference is that I'm constantly having "Duh" moments. It happens so frequent that I amazed myself.
My commonsense says "Don't do it" but I'm doing on my layout anyway.
By the way, how's your layout coming?

Captain Andy!

Yes, Captain. I need to change the number.
Also Rebuild engines don't have a full skirt on the above of the fuel tank. So I'm planning to change that.
The original skirt bother me a lot! Although I don't know why I'm so bothering by it.

Professer Webbo!

I saw your structures. I don't know how you can assemble them so perfectly.
Everything you do coming out perfect, Why?!!
You have nice friends like Bob and Marj on your layout and I have a Yardmaster who wears a pants that even fits his caboose, why?!!
Anyway, Coke machine sign is not decal. I just assembled Wardsworth paper buildings. Thank you N gauge link thread!!

Not much to report but I started doing something.
As I mentioned before (Did I?), one of the extension feature is a Los Angeles version of Creek. I think it called "Wash". It has a concrete bottom and concrete walls(yikes!).
Here is a preparing stage picture.

The top drawing on a paper is....no, it's not a caveman's drawing on a wall. It's a template for the bridge. Yes, you better believe it!
Below of that is a poor man's bridge track. It made out of a flextrack. Only half way done.
Pieces at the bottom are girder(?) bridge plates.
I did rubbish job on it. You can see bid gaps.

Thank you for reading this thread.
You're so kind!!
Please leave me a emoji reply.

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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #253 on: March 09, 2017, 06:58:04 PM »
Hi Dats

Two options with the renumbering.  How steady is your hand with a small paint brush and some white acrylic paint?  You cold try and change 3563 into 3568.

Or, and this would be my recommendation :

Microscale decals!

Good luck!

Andy
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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #254 on: March 09, 2017, 10:36:20 PM »
Hi Dats

yes, Bob and Marj take a great deal of pride in maintaining the motel inside and out. It is not down to me. I just glued the bits together.

The Creek you are constructing - is this the sort of LA drain that we sometimes see in car chase movies where the cars run along the drains and up the sides?

Webbo

 

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