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Quote from: Senza on December 29, 2015, 02:27:15 PM
Quote from: Railwaygun on December 29, 2015, 03:08:09 AM

Suitable track packs would be ( no PSU included as you are DCC)

V3 yard switching set ( inc 3 points)

V16 double track oval ( with banked curves)
(Add a straight and a crossover to link the ovals)

May I just ask a couple of questions that have arisen from the above reply;

I don't quite understand the "(no PSU included as you are DCC)" could someone expand upon this a little for me? Quite right the set I have bought is DCC but does that mean I only need one PSU, which is included in my DCC kit?

Could someone give me an example of the Unitrack items I would need to link the two ovals, i.e. track, switches, motors etc.?

So much too learn  :worried:

Still on the upside I have got a coat if primer/undercoat on that baseboard today  :D

Cheers, Senza

DC sets have a DC controller. (ie the Kato sets with controller). these power the track and also provide a socket to connect the point switches to. this may useful as a backup as well ( your stock is I think going to be DC initially)

kato point switch

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kato DC controller



the DCC controller you select will have its own PSU, and provide the track power. the KAto point s will need the old DC supply, or can use the AC supply that the DCC PSU MAY provide ( and you can sell the KAto controller easily).

to connect the 2 ovals, you need straights

20-012 Double Track Straight 186 mm (2 pcs.)

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this will extend the 2 loops, and you can insert a crossover point ( 4 points as one unit)

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#31
Many thanks for all the information, much appreciated.

I was just about to order a couple of Kato Unitrack V sets to go with my Graham Farish Cornish Riviera DCC set, but then thought "how will I power the points?"

There is obviously a huge gap in my understanding of using DCC with DC switches, points and accessories, and I have been searching away but can't quite get my head around it, if anyone can tell me in "numpty" terms what I need to order I would be very grateful... enthusiasm (impatience) is getting the better of me  :confused1:

I think Railwaygun has explained this above but has not taken into account how thick I am  :D I get the impression from the above that I have to have a Kato DC controller and the DCC Bachmann EZ Controller that is included in the DCC set, but am still confused as to where the DC power comes from.

Regards, Senza

Railwaygun

the Kato PSU has 12v DC output for DC track, and 2 side connectors that the point switches attach to ( 16vAC). so you would use the Kato SU ( cheapest in a Track set) to power the points.

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the DCC PSU will only power the DCC controller ( it has 1 plug on a cable, and no AC output.)

Alternatively you can use a 16v AC PSU and a Kato converter.

   Kato 24-842 AC/DC Converter

Converts 16 Volt AC to 12 Volt DC.

You will need one of these units if you are Not using the Kato controller for Unitrack point switches.

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I think that you should:

1) join a local model railway club (http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/)
2) visit some Train shows and talk to people with Kato based layouts - see what the bits look like and how they fit together
3) find a local Kato stockist
4) buy a simple Set - Track + PSU + 1 point and have a play!
5) find a local NGF member with Kato and pop round for a play! Ask here!

you need to see / feel and explanations are merely becoming more confusing.
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Senza

Ah thanks for that, it has all become a lot clearer now... like a little light bulb coming on :-)

I shall certainly take your advice and seek out a local club in the new year, maybe visit some shows/exhibitions to get an idea of things.

Cheers, Senza

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