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Re: Perthshire Railway Preservation Society - Construction
« Reply #525 on: July 10, 2016, 09:25:29 AM »
Of course, you could always be radical and paint it blue !
Now that might get the locals at the Golf Inn choking into their pints  :beers:
If it looks right then it most probably is right.


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Re: Perthshire Railway Preservation Society - Construction
« Reply #526 on: July 10, 2016, 01:27:15 PM »
There were, as you know, two shades of Southern Railways green under Maunsell and then Bulleid. BR (including the Southern Region) in the early years, tried out lined 'Express Blue' on some locos. (I don't know whether that included Bulleid's Light Pacifics? I would have to look that up in one of my books). Then, I believe, there was a lighter 'apple green' used as per Martin and my old Graham Farish 34065 "Hurricane" and my (still at Wickness) 34066 "Spitfire", before the final, lined BR Brunswick Green (the most attractive BR livery, IMHO; not exactly the same as the GWR Green), as per my later Graham Farish 'Battle of Britain' 34064 "Fighter Command". However, as a preserved loco. the choice is, of course, up to you. (I do have colour lists for suitable paint shades for most BR liveries.)

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Re: Perthshire Railway Preservation Society - Construction
« Reply #527 on: July 10, 2016, 03:22:44 PM »
I do have colour lists for suitable paint shades for most BR liveries.

Hi Chris

Could you share these lists, please?

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Re: Perthshire Railway Preservation Society - Construction
« Reply #528 on: July 10, 2016, 03:42:22 PM »
Hi Mike,

There are several such lists on the Internet, but here is one:

Car paint aerosol equivalents for railway colours

Any roof grey Halford's plastic bumper
MR/LMS/BR red Rover damask red
GWR/BR loco green Rover Brooklands green
GWR/BR loco green Ford laurel green
BR diesel light green band Ford highland green
BR coach carmine Ford rosso red
BR coach cream Vauxhall gazelle beige
BR coach cream (well worn) Peugeot antelope beige
BR diesel blue VW Pargas blue
BR steam loco blue Peugeot royal blue
BR loco yellow warning panel Vauxhall mustard yellow
LNER garter blue/BR diesel blue   Ford fjord blue
LNER garter blue VW Pargas blue
LMS Coronation Blue Rover pageant mid-blue
Stanier Coronation blue Peugeot royal blue
GWR or Pullman coach brown Rover russet brown
GWR coach cream Rover primula yellow
SR dark olive green Land Rover Coniston green
LNWR/LYR coach plum Daewoo dark red
LNWR coach white upper panels Daewoo Casablanca white
CR steam loco Peugeot royal blue
SDJR blue Rover midnight blue
CR dark blue Rover midnight blue
Stroudley LBSCR ochre BMC tan
LBSCR umber   Vauxhall Brazil brown
N.Staffs maroon Vauxhall Gambia red
NER coach red Vauxhall Gambia red
LYR coach upper panels Plastikote nut brown


Goods stock matt colours   White primer
                                        Grey primer
                                        Black primer
                                        Bauxite primer

SR pre-war Malachite Green is closely approximated by Rover Java Green

SOURCE: http://gardenrails.myfreeforum.org/archive/car-paint-aerosol-equivalents-for-railway-colours__o_t__t_3605.html

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Re: Perthshire Railway Preservation Society - Construction
« Reply #529 on: July 10, 2016, 03:46:02 PM »
This is a composite list I keep made up from various sources:

BR PAINT COLOUR MATCHES

BR wagon grey - VW EISGRAUEN KJ94

And I have bought (and use):

BR Wagon Bauxite (Early) ALFA ROMEO BRUNO DE37

The following colour matches have been mentioned elsewhere:-

1949-1956 carmine: Ford rosso red, Vauxhall carmine red, Alfa Romeo HR530, BMW Zinnobar Red, Ford Rosso Red and Vauxhall Carmine Red

1949-1956 cream: Vauxhall gazelle beige or Peugeot antelope beige (the latter for well worn stock!)

Post 1956 maroon: Rover damask red, Vauxhall burgundy red, Ford burgundy red, Triumph damson

I will order Ford burgundy red for BR Maroon when I make the LNER Gresley BG kits, next year.

MR/LMS crimson lake: Ford damask red, BL damask red (In theory, MR & LMS lake, & BR "maroon" should be the same colour).

GWR loco green Rover Brooklands Green, Ford Laurel Green
GWR coach brown Rover Russet Brown, Triumph Maple
GWR coach cream Rover Primula Yellow, Ford Sierra Beige

SR dark olive green Land Rover Coniston Green
SR EMU Green Jaguar British Racing Green

BR loco green: Rover Brooklands Green, Ford Laurel Green
BR diesel light green band: Ford Highland Green
BR coach crimson (carmine): Ford Rosso Red, Vauxhall Carmine Red
BR coach cream: Vauxhall Gazelle Beige, Talbot Jonquil
BR coach cream: (well worn) Peugeot Antelope Beige
BR loco / coach maroon: Rover Damask Red, Vauxhall Burgundy Red, Ford Burgundy Red, Triumph Damson
BR diesel blue: VW Pargas Blue; slightly more blue & less green Ford Fjord Blue
BR steam loco blue: Peugeot Royal Blue
BR loco yellow warning panel: Vauxhall Mustard Yellow
BR EMU Green: Jaguar British Racing Green

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Re: Perthshire Railway Preservation Society - Construction
« Reply #530 on: July 11, 2016, 07:02:08 AM »
With the PRPS's new home nearing completion, thoughts turn to organising the rolling stock ahead of the move onto permanent rails - here are some of the "storage sidings" that hold the recent new acquisitions.



Some organisation is required to update the various demonstration goods trains that the PRPS like to run with these new arrivals



Will be so nice having the rolling stock on rails like it should be, rather than cleared away into boxes at the end of the day!




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Re: Perthshire Railway Preservation Society - Construction
« Reply #531 on: July 11, 2016, 07:50:54 AM »
Nice little collection there squire.. Will look tidy when you get some rails for them. 
If you decide you don't want the white horse whisky wagon I'm here  :wave:
Cheers for the pictures.
Jas....  :beers:

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Re: Perthshire Railway Preservation Society - Construction
« Reply #532 on: July 11, 2016, 07:55:46 AM »
Thanks, Andrew, for these three photos. which are very useful for "through" running. There are a few anomalies like the Peco grey-painted SR Tarpaulin wagon when the SR used, as far as I know, a chocolate brown colour for its goods vehicles (but it can be resprayed in BR Bauxite), a grey-green 'GW' horsebox (but, again, it can be resprayed; I resprayed three in a shade of BR SR Green), one of the Lima pseudo BR Ferry Vans, an interesting bright yellow Continental van, and one of what should be a pair of Continental single-bolster wagons.

There are some very nice coaches there, a late model GF WR Chocolate & Brown BG (ideal for "through" running as Martin and I have at least one of these), a very nice GF BR Crimson BR Suburban coach, and a couple of the excellent Stanier design coaches, including a brake composite in BR Lined Maroon of which I have also have one: M5062M.

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Re: Perthshire Railway Preservation Society - Construction
« Reply #533 on: July 11, 2016, 07:59:39 AM »
Jason, I have a unwanted boxed old (but looks new) Peco "Haig" grain wagon (I prefer to buy unbranded plain blue ones for respraying) which I can add to the shipment? (Unless Andrew is making a collection of all the whisky brand grain wagons which Peco produced?)

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Re: Perthshire Railway Preservation Society - Construction
« Reply #534 on: July 11, 2016, 11:16:53 AM »
 :laughabovepost:  you may recall I confessed that I didn't actually like the grain wagons much, I repainted some Haig & others that I was going to sell, into the PRPS livery once the Tullibardine distillery worked its way into the rich backstory that has emerged in this thread,  now, thanks to the success of negotiations with Brandon Willams and others, I seem to have even more than I started out with to support the blossoming exports :)

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Re: Perthshire Railway Preservation Society - Construction
« Reply #535 on: July 11, 2016, 11:21:25 AM »
Thanks, Andrew, (it's hard to keep track, sometimes), the spare Peco "Haig" wagon will be added to the trainload going to Jason, then.

Thanks to Jason's 'encouragement', I will have a longer rake of "Speedlink" wagons with an additional two Extra-LWB "Speedlink" vans on their way to join the existing two. So, a "Speedlink" train from Perthshire, via Hood-dale, to North Cornwall will soon be possible. 8-)

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Re: Perthshire Railway Preservation Society - Construction
« Reply #536 on: July 11, 2016, 11:47:16 AM »
Hi Mike,

There are several such lists on the Internet, but here is one:

Car paint aerosol equivalents for railway colours

Any roof grey Halford's plastic bumper
MR/LMS/BR red Rover damask red
GWR/BR loco green Rover Brooklands green
GWR/BR loco green Ford laurel green
BR diesel light green band Ford highland green
BR coach carmine Ford rosso red
BR coach cream Vauxhall gazelle beige
BR coach cream (well worn) Peugeot antelope beige
BR diesel blue VW Pargas blue
BR steam loco blue Peugeot royal blue
BR loco yellow warning panel Vauxhall mustard yellow
LNER garter blue/BR diesel blue   Ford fjord blue
LNER garter blue VW Pargas blue
LMS Coronation Blue Rover pageant mid-blue
Stanier Coronation blue Peugeot royal blue
GWR or Pullman coach brown Rover russet brown
GWR coach cream Rover primula yellow
SR dark olive green Land Rover Coniston green
LNWR/LYR coach plum Daewoo dark red
LNWR coach white upper panels Daewoo Casablanca white
CR steam loco Peugeot royal blue
SDJR blue Rover midnight blue
CR dark blue Rover midnight blue
Stroudley LBSCR ochre BMC tan
LBSCR umber   Vauxhall Brazil brown
N.Staffs maroon Vauxhall Gambia red
NER coach red Vauxhall Gambia red
LYR coach upper panels Plastikote nut brown


Goods stock matt colours   White primer
                                        Grey primer
                                        Black primer
                                        Bauxite primer

SR pre-war Malachite Green is closely approximated by Rover Java Green

SOURCE: http://gardenrails.myfreeforum.org/archive/car-paint-aerosol-equivalents-for-railway-colours__o_t__t_3605.html


Thanks Chris - much appreciated and book-marked.

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Re: Perthshire Railway Preservation Society - Construction
« Reply #537 on: July 12, 2016, 07:16:24 AM »
Skirting boards and facings fitted now  :beers:





The roof "canvas" is on - just need to stretch it tight & give it a trim (if it ever stops raining!)



The canvas is a modern derivative (sometimes used by preservation societies i.e. the Bluebell Rly on static stock, they report quite a few issues with using it on running stock, mainly caused by cinders and sparks from the chimney of the locomotive) of canvas, the same material that is used in curtain side lorries - had hoped to get it a bit darker, but Mudfords only had white or this light grey

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Re: Perthshire Railway Preservation Society - Construction
« Reply #538 on: July 12, 2016, 10:27:28 AM »
Skirting boards and facings fitted now  :beers:


I hope you took safety into consideration and used a proper skirting board ladder :laugh3:

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Re: Perthshire Railway Preservation Society - Construction
« Reply #539 on: July 12, 2016, 11:00:25 AM »
 :D indeed I did :)  thankfully it was not an N Gauge work party that was employed for this job!

 

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