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Author Topic: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Mail Train PCV  (Read 1428 times)

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Offline acko22

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Suggestion for RevolutioN - Mail Train PCV
« on: July 19, 2015, 04:43:36 PM »
Hi All,

A little late in the day I know but seeing what others have mentioned on the forum I thought it may be worth putting this forward.

Between 1994 and 1996 Hunslet Barclay were tasked with converting the 42 driving cabs of former Class 307 units into Propelling Control Vehicles for mail trains to allow easier low speed shunting movements controlling the train from one end with the loco at the far end.
These coaches were designed to be used in conjunction with 47/7s on mail trains all over the country and former Travelling post office (TPO) trains, originally under RES then post privatization EWS.

The first 2 examples were 94300 and 94301 and were the prototype designs which were unconventional to the rest of the 42 strong fleet latterly seeing the push pull equipment removed and renumbered 95300 and 95301 respectively, these 2 examples were incorporated into rakes for post office trains although they were just used as normal coaches.
These coaches 2 examples were the only 2 of the fleet to be repainted by EWS into their own corporate colours prior to EWS losing the Mail business which would have seen wide scale use of the PCV fleet with class 67 haulage.
In some cases some mail trains were ran with a PCV at each end so that no matter which end the locomotive coupled up at there was still a way of controlling the train at the "free" end.

As of July 2015 there are no running examples on the national network although currently there are 19 examples stored across the country incase major use of the Mail trains once again becomes a reality, and one is preserved with the Mid-Norfolk Railway (94320). TAKE OFF WIKIPEDIA

Right now the fun bit why should these be considered?

Although not a major part of the railway they are a unique and unusual part of the railway and saw a high amount of use and mileage for such a small fleet of coaches travelling anywhere that saw mail services as south as Penznace and as far north as Inverness. Looking at the Post office and RES models available from the major suppliers of N gauge there is plenty of models to choose from to create these mail trains with the PCV been the final missing piece to make a complete rake and having it as it would have been in real life allowing these trains to be modelled complete.

Can the numbers required be found to make these a reality?

I think so the amount of Mail train vehicles that have been on offer and continue to be sold show that there is people interested wanting to have mail trains as part of their layouts and to run them, although possibly not a major seller hence why they have not been added to the catalogue of the big firms.

How easy are they to be modelled accurately?

Like the models already commissioned by Mike and Ben, there are complete examples available to scan as required and with the relatively young age of them the complementing drawings should be available to allow for accurate modelling just as the Pendolino and the TEA wagons.

Any restricting factors?

Personally I can see 2 factors that would make it restrictive:

1) The relatively short time that the PCVs were actively used on the national network, the PCVs were in operation between 1994 and 2004 although as previously stated there are 19 in store should larger scale mail services reappear on the national network which makes a second lease of life a possibility at some stage. This means that era wise you are looking at late era 8 and early era 9 for these units with and accurate life span of 10 years currently.

2) Not all mail trains had a PCV on so mail trains could be modelled without them and still be accurate.

In summary then while the PCV has currently had a small life span and not was never the most visible part of the railways it is an interesting addition to the railways and potentially to the modelling scene. While its small numbers can go against it with the current market showing an interest in mail trains I think that these could be a interesting addition to the scene, with this taken into account these models may not be major sellers but a niche additional for those of us who would wish to depict mail trains between 1994 and 2004 and potentially in the future.

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Mail Train PCV
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2015, 03:28:42 PM »
Hurst Models do a nice resin and brass etch kit for a PCV. (Ian Stoate also used to do a kit IIRC).

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Mail Train PCV
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2015, 08:09:21 AM »
if anyone has some photos of the Hurst model in construction/completion I'm tempted to purchase a pair...

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Mail Train PCV
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2015, 10:43:35 AM »
Electra does vinyl sides and ends for the PCVs in RES and EWS liveries - you can get cast 307 ends from Bob at N-Train to add a bit more detail.
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