mid 1980s fish movements - under rule 1

[guest311]

I did wonder about the VGA, but is it not the same idea as the cargowaggon, ie the whole side opens ?

I'm assuming that for refrigerated stock you'd want doors more like a container that seal and retain the cold.

am I right in thinking that the blue spot fish vans were just ice cooled, and so limited in the length of journey, or would require re-icing ?

I assume that they were also limited in speed, and possibly vacuum braked rather than air braked, so might be limited in the locos they could run with.



at this rate the fish will be going off on the dockside, or there will be a large increase in HGVs on the roads 

[T-TRAK_Andrew]

G'day Alan, For next generation refrigerated wagon would some of the European long wheel base wagons be suitable? Being 1:160 they may make UK clearances at 1:148. Also are there any commercial European refrigerated wagons that resemble those used in cross Channel service. You could justify them being recycled or refurbished for UK service.
Just a thought, Andrew G.

[JasonBz]

Interfrigo refrigerated vans would be reasonably possible - They did run in the UK in the 80s ; and quite a lot of British caught fish goes to Continental markets.
Ive seen quite a few Spanish registered lorries on the quayside at Padstow, for example.

[guest311]

many thanks for those suggestions, I'll have a look to see what is available in the way of Interfrigo wagons.

[ohlavache]

Hello.
I had a short look at Interfrigo wagons in 1:160.
I've found these four:
- Arnold 4563


- Brawa 67100.2 (but you would have to remove SBB's logo)


- Ibertren 6389


- Minitrix 13248


I hope this helps.
Have a nice week-end.

[DELETED]

to add to my 'fleet' of the LSMs to become ferries, and tugs to donate superstructures to the ferries, I've recently acquired 3 of the Revell 'Ross Jackal' trawler kits.

I don't know what sort of weight of catch would have been landed from one of these size ships in the mid 80's, but that was the trigger for this question.

alan

A coincidence but P18 of this months Model Rail has a one pager on the old Arctic Corsair kit.  I had one of these kits many years ago when I got into R/C model boats as a kid.  It was potentially just big enough for R/C on my tiny budget but back then you had to make all the running gear yourself and I think I just gave up.  Nowadays you don't have to make your own mini-propshafts and propellers it's all off the shelf cheap enough.  I was looking on the net about this class of boats though. I thought it would have been easy enough to work out the "haul" from the figures but I can't work it out so far -and it bugs me because as a nav. architect I should be able to!  I'm used to much bigger / different boats, I suppose if 20Te was landed then it's still maybe allot of 'faash (doric accent) at the end of the day going by TV programmes though.

I was looking at interfrigo wagons as I never heard of them before-there's plenty of pics of them used in the UK on google (some pics on RMweb also) and they seem quite diverse by design so maybe some room for some custom modding?

[D1042 Western Princess]

to add to my 'fleet' of the LSMs to become ferries, and tugs to donate superstructures to the ferries, I've recently acquired 3 of the Revell 'Ross Jackal' trawler kits.

I don't know what sort of weight of catch would have been landed from one of these size

I suppose if 20Te was landed then it's still maybe allot of 'faash (doric accent) at the end of the day going by TV programmes though.

I presume 20Te means 20 tons, but in metric? 

Don't forget that the EU Common Fisheries Policy dictates the maximum catch, not the capacity of the vessel.
Sorry to get political, but it is a relevant fact in this case.