My apologies! (Now modified to Open Discussion!)

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petercharlesfagg

My friends,

My apologies for requesting the locking of my thread concerning LED's and PPI's.

I was in ignorance of the procedures for forum protocols regarding solved questions.

I therefore thought that locking was the correct method.

Regards, Peter.
Each can do but little, BUT if each did that little, ALL would be done!

Life is like a new sewer pipe, what you get out of it depends on what you put into it!

A day without laughter is a day wasted!

Geoff

Peter it was your thread but by keeping a thread open it helps other further down the line to ask other questions about the subject.

Geoff

Bealman

#2
No probs, Peter. All cool.  :thumbsup:
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

scotsoft

You did nothing wrong Peter and your request was made with the best of intentions and that is why I locked it at your request.

cheers John.

MalcolmInN

Quote from: Geoff on June 22, 2015, 09:09:05 AM
Peter it was your thread but by keeping a thread open it helps other further down the line to ask other questions about the subject.
Yes !
I dont think we got to the bottom of this reverse breakdown stuff and I was going to ask some more about it, but I dont think I dare now :(


Geoff

Quote from: MalcolmAL on June 22, 2015, 11:21:32 AM
Quote from: Geoff on June 22, 2015, 09:09:05 AM
Peter it was your thread but by keeping a thread open it helps other further down the line to ask other questions about the subject.
Yes !
I dont think we got to the bottom of this reverse breakdown stuff and I was going to ask some more about it, but I dont think I dare now :(

Just go for it Malcolm nothing to do with I dare you, you see I might learn something new.  ;)
Geoff

scotsoft

Quote from: MalcolmAL on June 22, 2015, 11:21:32 AM

I dont think we got to the bottom of this reverse breakdown stuff and I was going to ask some more about it, but I dont think I dare now :(


There is no reason whatsoever why you cannot ask for more information  :NGaugersRule:

cheers John.

austinbob

Quote from: MalcolmAL on June 22, 2015, 11:21:32 AM
Quote from: Geoff on June 22, 2015, 09:09:05 AM
Peter it was your thread but by keeping a thread open it helps other further down the line to ask other questions about the subject.
Yes !
I dont think we got to the bottom of this reverse breakdown stuff and I was going to ask some more about it, but I dont think I dare now :(
OK Malcolm - you asked for more info - get your teeth into this....
I found this link which talks about what actually causes reverse breakdown. The majority seem to think its the current/power dissipated by the diode when reverse biased that causes the breakdown, but no one seems to have established how much power is required. So, in your circuit (or was it Malcs?) with a resistor in series with each diode and the two sets connected in parallel in opposite polarity the resistor in series may limit the reverse current sufficiently to prevent damage.
The article also reports a huge variation in breakdown voltage, often much higher than the speced 4 to 5 volts. Here's the link - enjoy
http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/173283/what-destroys-a-led-in-the-reverse-direction
:beers:
Size matters - especially if you don't have a lot of space - and N gauge is the answer!

Bob Austin

GroupC

Peter you're such a gentleman, I love reading your messages even if they have nothing to do with what I'm up to!

If life (in general I mean, it's all very friendly here in the NGF) had more petercharlesfagg's in it, it would be a much better place.

Cheers sir, keep posting!

austinbob

Quote from: GroupC on June 22, 2015, 12:43:00 PM
Peter you're such a gentleman, I love reading your messages even if they have nothing to do with what I'm up to!

If life (in general I mean, it's all very friendly here in the NGF) had more petercharlesfagg's in it, it would be a much better place.

Cheers sir, keep posting!
Seconded and Thirded
:D
Size matters - especially if you don't have a lot of space - and N gauge is the answer!

Bob Austin

MalcolmInN

Quote from: austinbob on June 22, 2015, 12:33:12 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on June 22, 2015, 11:21:32 AM
Quote from: Geoff on June 22, 2015, 09:09:05 AM
Peter it was your thread but by keeping a thread open it helps other further down the line to ask other questions about the subject.
Yes !
I dont think we got to the bottom of this reverse breakdown stuff and I was going to ask some more about it, but I dont think I dare now :(
OK Malcolm - you asked for more info
Thanks Bob, very intersting
but prob. best not in this thread ;)

Geoff

Quote from: MalcolmAL on June 22, 2015, 03:16:57 PM
Quote from: austinbob on June 22, 2015, 12:33:12 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on June 22, 2015, 11:21:32 AM
Quote from: Geoff on June 22, 2015, 09:09:05 AM
Peter it was your thread but by keeping a thread open it helps other further down the line to ask other questions about the subject.
Yes !
I dont think we got to the bottom of this reverse breakdown stuff and I was going to ask some more about it, but I dont think I dare now :(
OK Malcolm - you asked for more info
Thanks Bob, very intersting
but prob. best not in this thread ;)

Of course not you know where it goes  ;)
Geoff

petercharlesfagg

Quote from: austinbob on June 22, 2015, 12:33:12 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on June 22, 2015, 11:21:32 AM
Quote from: Geoff on June 22, 2015, 09:09:05 AM
Peter it was your thread but by keeping a thread open it helps other further down the line to ask other questions about the subject.
Yes !
I dont think we got to the bottom of this reverse breakdown stuff and I was going to ask some more about it, but I dont think I dare now :(
OK Malcolm - you asked for more info - get your teeth into this....
I found this link which talks about what actually causes reverse breakdown. The majority seem to think its the current/power dissipated by the diode when reverse biased that causes the breakdown, but no one seems to have established how much power is required. So, in your circuit (or was it Malcs?) with a resistor in series with each diode and the two sets connected in parallel in opposite polarity the resistor in series may limit the reverse current sufficiently to prevent damage.
The article also reports a huge variation in breakdown voltage, often much higher than the speced 4 to 5 volts. Here's the link - enjoy
http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/173283/what-destroys-a-led-in-the-reverse-direction
:beers:

Bob, I have no wish to belittle your efforts, they are praiseworthy, but may I suggest like our mutual friend that starting a new thread might be a better idea?

Warmest regards, Peter.
Each can do but little, BUT if each did that little, ALL would be done!

Life is like a new sewer pipe, what you get out of it depends on what you put into it!

A day without laughter is a day wasted!

MalcolmInN

Quote from: Geoff on June 22, 2015, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on June 22, 2015, 03:16:57 PM
Quote from: austinbob on June 22, 2015, 12:33:12 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on June 22, 2015, 11:21:32 AM
Quote from: Geoff on June 22, 2015, 09:09:05 AM
Peter it was your thread but by keeping a thread open it helps other further down the line to ask other questions about the subject.
Yes !
I dont think we got to the bottom of this reverse breakdown stuff and I was going to ask some more about it, but I dont think I dare now :(
OK Malcolm - you asked for more info
Thanks Bob, very intersting
but prob. best not in this thread ;)

Of course not you know where it goes  ;)
Yes, I know but if I did I would risk getting that one closed as well :(

Oh dear, now I've got Bob into trouble as well :(


austinbob

Quote from: MalcolmAL on June 22, 2015, 04:05:20 PM
Quote from: Geoff on June 22, 2015, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on June 22, 2015, 03:16:57 PM
Quote from: austinbob on June 22, 2015, 12:33:12 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on June 22, 2015, 11:21:32 AM
Quote from: Geoff on June 22, 2015, 09:09:05 AM
Peter it was your thread but by keeping a thread open it helps other further down the line to ask other questions about the subject.
Yes !
I dont think we got to the bottom of this reverse breakdown stuff and I was going to ask some more about it, but I dont think I dare now :(
OK Malcolm - you asked for more info
Thanks Bob, very intersting
but prob. best not in this thread ;)

Of course not you know where it goes  ;)
Yes, I know but if I did I would risk getting that one closed as well :(

Oh dear, now I've got Bob into trouble as well :(
No problem - perhaps one of our illustrious moderators could stick this bit of the thread where they like (figuratively speaking of course!!) and let us know where they've put it. Then we can carry on with our electronic musings for as long as we like or we find something good to watch  on the telly.
:thankyousign:
Size matters - especially if you don't have a lot of space - and N gauge is the answer!

Bob Austin

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