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Lima Class 52 Western - a myth?
« on: April 23, 2015, 03:27:29 PM »
From the 1980 Lima catalogue (available here as a PDF) I see a clutch of Westerns advertised as "new":


Did these ever make it into production?  Googling the model numbers mainly brings up that catalogue, and I've never seen any pop up on Ebay - as far as I can tell the only Lima N-gauge non-kettles actually made (apart from the faux shuntery thingies) were the 31, 55 and 86.
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Re: Lima Class 52 Western - a myth?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2015, 04:41:19 PM »
Those Westerns don't look too bad to my poor eyes but, as with all things Lima, I wonder what gauge they were made to (1/160??)

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Re: Lima Class 52 Western - a myth?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2015, 04:56:08 PM »
If they were produced at all, I'd bet they were made to whatever scale fits them on the same chassis as the Deltic... I haven't done any measurements but the class 86 and 31 bodies look suspiciously the same size, giving the impression Lima had some kind of standard chassis casting dimensions... Placed next to a Dapol 86 the Lima version is about 10% too short and 5% too wide; the body detailing is surprisingly good and it would make a useful start for some bashing if it wasn't for the distorted proportions.
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Re: Lima Class 52 Western - a myth?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2015, 05:25:23 PM »
I have read somewhere (don't remember where) that, as you've seen, these were advertised in the catalog but they were never produced.  While it's certainly not dispositive, I certainly have never seen one and even the ones in the catalog appear to be artwork and not pictures of real models.

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Re: Lima Class 52 Western - a myth?
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2015, 06:46:17 PM »
They were but a pipe dream. I remember waiting for them to appear...  :'(

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Re: Lima Class 52 Western - a myth?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2015, 10:37:11 PM »
Yes, they went the same way as the King, J50 and Pannier....i.e. never made it out of the catalogue.

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Re: Lima Class 52 Western - a myth?
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2015, 09:18:45 AM »
Probably just as well if the Lima Deltic was anything to go by and as for the diesel Shunter !!? The coaches too small wagons too high although I believe the horse box and the siphons weren't to bad as some one else said the electric loco was probably reasonable .Having said that they were ok to start kids of in the hobby because they went round the track like formula ONE cars and were fairly robust to stand the knocks when they fell off.
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Re: Lima Class 52 Western - a myth?
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2015, 12:01:05 PM »
They made it out in OO but not in N

The OO one had some noticeable errors on the nose (much too much step in before the cab windows). It was IMHO better than the Hornby effort from the same period.

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Re: Lima Class 52 Western - a myth?
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2015, 12:27:18 PM »
Aye, they never saw the light of day, but the pics look good, don't they?!
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Re: Lima Class 52 Western - a myth?
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2015, 01:09:54 PM »
Aye, they never saw the light of day, but the pics look good, don't they?!

Great picture in a catalogue that never seem to materialise.  :hmmm: sounds vaguely familiar.
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Re: Lima Class 52 Western - a myth?
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2015, 01:23:19 PM »
The OO one had some noticeable errors on the nose (much too much step in before the cab windows). It was IMHO better than the Hornby effort from the same period.
Agreed; I had both, but thought the moving valance thing on the Hornby one's bogies was much less pleasing a compromise than the narrower valances on the Lima. On the other hand, the Lima one was pretty noisy!

I'm told there was Trix one, but haven't seen one in the flesh.

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Re: Lima Class 52 Western - a myth?
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2015, 01:37:55 PM »
I still miss my 00 Deltic Meld, it made noise similar to the hoover the maid used

 

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