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Re: How many are "too many"?
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2014, 07:57:08 PM »
Hope no one has the problem or luck, depending on how you look at it.

The era/period I'm doing is Gillingham (Kent) 1950 to 1960. Apart from
half a dozen interlopers (through trains) I will need locomotives with the
following numbers if I want to be accurate (rule one to be used though).

sr 654      31002    31051    31158 a  31374     31501     31660 a    31671    31713
sr 657      31007    31086    31215     31378     31508     31662 a    31697 a
sr 1116    31014    31090    31234     31380     31658 a   31663 a    31711
sr 1232    31039    31092    31238     31384     31659 a   31666 a    31712

Yes there are 33 of them, that was the complement of locos based there.
Next problem will be to match numbers with the correct type of loco  :uneasy:

Roger

PS. Any and all help would be appreciated  :thumbsup:





 
 
 
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Re: How many are "too many"?
« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2014, 09:07:36 PM »
Hope no one has the problem or luck, depending on how you look at it.

The era/period I'm doing is Gillingham (Kent) 1950 to 1960. Apart from
half a dozen interlopers (through trains) I will need locomotives with the
following numbers if I want to be accurate (rule one to be used though).

sr 654      31002   31051   31158 a  31374     31501     31660 a    31671    31713
sr 657      31007   31086   31215     31378     31508     31662 a    31697 a
sr 1116    31014   31090   31234     31380     31658 a   31663 a    31711
sr 1232    31039   31092   31238     31384     31659 a   31666 a    31712

Yes there are 33 of them, that was the complement of locos based there.
Next problem will be to match numbers with the correct type of loco  :uneasy:

Roger

PS. Any and all help would be appreciated  :thumbsup:


According to www.railuk.info, these are the locos you have listed above:

Kirtley B-2 0-6-0: sr 654/57
Stirling F1 class 4-4-0: sr 1116, sr 1232, 31002, 31215
Wainwright O-1 class 0-6-0: 31007/14/39/51, 31238, 31374/78/80
Wainwright C class 0-6-0: 31086/90, 31234, 31508, 31711/12/13
Wainwright D class 4-4-0: 31092, 31501
Wainwright H class 0-4-4T: 31158
Stirling B-1 class 4-4-0: 31384
Kirtley R class 0-4-4T: 31658/59/60/62/63/66/71
Kirtley R-1 class 0-4-4T: 31697

I presume the 'Rule 1' you refer to above is to extend the lifetimes of (some of) the locos listed, because certainly the ones prefixed 'sr' failed to make nationalisation...
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Re: How many are "too many"?
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2014, 12:34:13 AM »
Hope no one has the problem or luck, depending on how you look at it.

The era/period I'm doing is Gillingham (Kent) 1950 to 1960. Apart from
half a dozen interlopers (through trains) I will need locomotives with the
following numbers if I want to be accurate (rule one to be used though).

sr 654      31002   31051   31158 a  31374     31501     31660 a    31671    31713
sr 657      31007   31086   31215     31378     31508     31662 a    31697 a
sr 1116    31014   31090   31234     31380     31658 a   31663 a    31711
sr 1232    31039   31092   31238     31384     31659 a   31666 a    31712

Yes there are 33 of them, that was the complement of locos based there.
Next problem will be to match numbers with the correct type of loco  :uneasy:

Roger

PS. Any and all help would be appreciated  :thumbsup:


According to www.railuk.info, these are the locos you have listed above:

Kirtley B-2 0-6-0: sr 654/57
Stirling F1 class 4-4-0: sr 1116, sr 1232, 31002, 31215
Wainwright O-1 class 0-6-0: 31007/14/39/51, 31238, 31374/78/80
Wainwright C class 0-6-0: 31086/90, 31234, 31508, 31711/12/13
Wainwright D class 4-4-0: 31092, 31501
Wainwright H class 0-4-4T: 31158
Stirling B-1 class 4-4-0: 31384
Kirtley R class 0-4-4T: 31658/59/60/62/63/66/71
Kirtley R-1 class 0-4-4T: 31697

I presume the 'Rule 1' you refer to above is to extend the lifetimes of (some of) the locos listed, because certainly the ones prefixed 'sr' failed to make nationalisation...


Thank you very much for your info and time. Next problem will be to see if any
manufacturer of N gauge do models of these loco's. Mind you, after spending the
last 3 hours trying to cross reference these locos it seems that most of them had
been scrapped by 1954.

As my era is 1950-1960 it seems that 'Rule 1'  :hmmm: rules.
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Re: How many are "too many"?
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2014, 01:08:59 AM »
I sold a load of my stuff a few weeks ago that had been sitting in boxes and never used. I'm now slowly concentrating on building up a reasonable collection of stock for a colliery layout I'm planning. 30 locos, similar number of carriages, and about 80 16t mineral wagons at the last count! Still more 16 tonners required, and coaches, but I keep buying locos instead!

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Re: How many are "too many"?
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2014, 01:23:46 AM »
So far almost everyone is admitting that even 15 or 20 locos might be too many which is very honest and kind of confessional.

But where are the folks that already have 150 or more, with 30 on pre-order and certainly more to follow as soon as Dapol and Farish announce them, and will defend to the death the right to really need more than Haymarket shed ever had. Come on guys and whatever is PC. for "girls". We need to hear some passionate outpouring.

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Re: How many are "too many"?
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2014, 02:26:07 AM »
male locomotives = female shoes

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Re: How many are "too many"?
« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2014, 07:50:33 AM »
Still more 16 tonners required, and coaches, but I keep buying locos instead!

I read somewhere that at one time in the 1960s BR had more 16 ton mineral wagons than ALL other wagon/van types put together. I don't know if that's true but I always think you can't have too many of these types either.
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Re: How many are "too many"?
« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2014, 08:10:31 AM »
I am trying to model a specific place (Northfleet, North Kent Line) in the current day.  So I have investigated the train flows and that is largely what is driving the stock list...

I am short a few trains and I will try to buy a whole train at a time rather than locos or stock in random purchases…

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Re: How many are "too many"?
« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2014, 08:24:14 AM »
male locomotives = female shoes

Can't agree there, my loco count is about a tenth of my shoe count.    ;D

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Re: How many are "too many"?
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2014, 08:49:28 AM »
As i am moving to OO scale - oops!. I have a hankering for 'Grandads engines'. Born in 1892 he was a driver at Carlisle Upperby shed on LMS/BR until his death in 1953. I don't know what he drove so i had a think and it might be 14.

Passenger - Compound, Patriot, Jubilee, Royal Scot, Princess Royal, Streamlined Duchess, Non streamlined Duchess.

Goods etc - Jinty, 4F 0-6-0, 2-8-0, black 5, Crab, Ivatt 2MT

Thats 14 plus a couple of tanks maybe.

Then there is the early BR stuff, he would have been 65 in 1957.

The layout will hold about 8 so i will have to rotate them.

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Re: How many are "too many"?
« Reply #40 on: March 23, 2014, 12:27:47 PM »
"Too Many".......isn't that a couple beyond  "Just Enough" and so I might getting to the  "just enough" stage. Can't ever see me having too many!

I not counting too closely, but since deciding to drop to only Santa Fe and BNSF (well nearly) and selling the rest I think I'm down to around 45 locos. But then as I run US and most are consists of 2 or 3 I tell SWMBO that's really only about 15-20 locos.

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Re: How many are "too many"?
« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2014, 12:46:43 PM »
I tell SWMBO that's really only about 15-20 locos.

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Re: How many are "too many"?
« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2014, 01:26:45 PM »
But where are the folks that already have 150 or more, with 30 on pre-order and certainly more to follow as soon as Dapol and Farish announce them, and will defend to the death the right to really need more than Haymarket shed ever had. Come on guys and whatever is PC. for "girls". We need to hear some passionate outpouring.

I have this nasty habit of buying toys in their multiples, that is, buying the same  locomotive/model kits/diecast cars/figures several times. I always thought that if I can keep running/playing/building  the same locomotive/cars/kits, while keeping another (even several others) hanging around, I would have the joy of running/playing/building  while keeping another piece in perfect condition. I also have an eye of converting locomotives, so if I came across a piece of "useful" locomotive, I buy several of them. For an instance, I bought 4 Kato C55 within last 2 months, believing that I will convert them into other locomotives. I have 4 ROCO Br03, 4 Rivarossi Br10, 5 ConCor J3a of various road names,  and my favourite locomotive, the C62 of the JNR, I have collected about 12 of them in all these years. Sometimes I think I am a bit over the top. However, every time I check into ebay, yahoo auction, I look for what seems like bargains, and the buying never stops.
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Re: How many are "too many"?
« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2014, 02:34:47 PM »
Hope no one has the problem or luck, depending on how you look at it.

The era/period I'm doing is Gillingham (Kent) 1950 to 1960.

sr 654      31002    31051    31158 a  31374     31501     31660 a    31671    31713
sr 657      31007    31086    31215     31378     31508     31662 a    31697 a
sr 1116    31014    31090    31234     31380     31658 a   31663 a    31711
sr 1232    31039    31092    31238     31384     31659 a   31666 a    31712



Roger

PS. Any and all help would be appreciated  :thumbsup:

 :hmmm:  I was going to suggest that you were obviously a big Brush Type Two fan but then realised that you were not talking TOPS codes here! :no: ;)
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Re: How many are "too many"?
« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2014, 10:39:32 PM »
I've got 4 'big' diesels (24,37, x2 47s), 2 shunters (04 & 08), a 108 DEMU and an WD austerity 2-8-0 so 8 locos in total. The way I've collected is to try and put it all around the mid 70s to late 80s pre-sectorisation mark and have all different shape/class diesels - I reckon a 20, a 52 and the new 31 would be nice although the new 25/33 can wait as it looks too similar to the 24.
Now I have the late crest black WD, I want the train pack with the late crest maroon Duchess in it and I want a late crest dark green V class Schools when it's released. This will, for the time being be enough variety in shape/colour for my liking. I really want an olive Southern Terrier but it might have to be a late crest as it conveniently fits with the other kettles I've hypothetically bought.

That takes us up to 14 locos.

Now that I've had a little type and a think to see where it's all going, I'd say I collect on variety and would therefore have too many when the locos all start looking the same as each other (or can't fit around the not-yet-released Kato turntable.)

 

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