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Offline Karhedron

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Re: NGS Collett BG
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2014, 07:03:28 PM »
I suspect the Thompsons will be a little way behind the Collets. I doubt they will be out at the same time.
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Re: NGS Collett BG
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2014, 07:08:31 PM »
Probably will be as Farish are doing them, I have been lead to believe these are on time and certainly wont be 12 months late.
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Re: NGS Collett BG
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2014, 08:03:29 PM »
I seem to remember that the windows on the doors were a different height and the datum either at the top or bottom was different.

Hi Dave,

I have a pic of W111 at didcot and I have added lines to show the tops and bottoms of the windows (sorry for the poor resolution). Was the issue the droplights being a different height to the bodyside windows?

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Re: NGS Collett BG
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2014, 08:08:46 PM »
Hello Richard,

Last time I spoke to Bachmann they warned me that the Thompson BG was unlikely to be here before 2015.

Hopefully not as late as the Collett, but certainly enough of a gap to ameliorate your cash flow issues!

Re the window sizes - I've checked the photos, drawings and dimensions I have and although drawings suggest they should be level, photos show the door window apertures are very slightly deeper than the main body windows.  However, due to the inner drop light frame the door glazing is actually smaller. This is most noticeable with liveries such as chocolate and cream which feature mahogany drop lights.

This has been replicated and I'll try to upload a close up of the CAD later.

EDIT:  This image should show what I mean:



FURTHER EDIT:

I have created this comparison.  The preserved BG at Didcot is not ideally placed for photography, but hopefully the relationship between the various windows is fairly clear.  Note that I have had to compensate as the droplight glazing on the real thing has slipped down and needs refixing in its correct position!   I have also had to compensate for the radiussed lower edge of the door aperture catching the light.

The green lines indicate the top and bottom of the door window aperture - the top is level with the main glazing, the bottom is fractionally lower, while the actual door glazing (pink lines) is smaller than the main glazing.  Of course, in N this is all tiny fractions of a millimeter but to look right the relationship between them has to be right!




Cheers

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« Last Edit: April 02, 2014, 08:33:49 PM by Ben A »



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Re: NGS Collett BG
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2014, 08:39:00 PM »
Hi Ben,

I see it now, and am glad we measured them as they seem to have got it spot on.

Sorry to bring it up but it is a visual difference that struck me, and I'm glad it's sorted :-)
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Re: NGS Collett BG
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2014, 09:02:16 PM »
Ben, what kind of price are we looking at, at this moment. Cheers john

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Re: NGS Collett BG
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2014, 11:02:12 PM »

Hello John,

I'm sorry but the price hasn't been finalised yet, and that will be sorted by the shop!

cheers

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Re: NGS Collett BG
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2014, 11:38:10 PM »
Probably will be as Farish are doing them, I have been lead to believe these are on time and certainly wont be 12 months late.

Richard

I don't know who told you that, but that is certainly not what Ben and I have been told by Farish.  Again there is an upate on the Thompson BG in the next Journal.

As Ben said, our latest update from Farish is 2015.

My general comment in the Journal is that all manufacturers (Bachmann, Dapol and Hornby) seem to be struggling with supply at the moment for a variety of different reasons.  While it is frustrating for us all, it must also be frustrating for them as well as they want to have products to sell.  The NGS will continue to keep its members updated as and when we get new information.  Furthermore we will manage  the projects as best we can so that members are not suddenly stung with a large bill for multiple products. Everything turning up at once doesn't help anyone!

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Re: NGS Collett BG
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2014, 12:53:23 PM »
Thank you Mike very much appreciated.
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Re: NGS Collett BG
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2014, 12:28:44 AM »

Hello all,

Yesterday I received first EP samples of the Collett.  I sent one by special delivery down to Westbury, as I couldn't make the NGS AGM, and I hope members who attended liked what they saw.

I will post photos on here asap, for those who can't wait I have managed to post some from my phone over in the Collett BG thread on RM Web.

cheers

Ben A.



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Re: NGS Collett BG
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2014, 12:58:53 PM »
Fetching shade of pink but looked very good including the bogies. Wheels still appear to be undersized but that is nit picking.

 Orders for it were reported to be very strong.

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Re: NGS Collett BG
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2014, 01:56:26 PM »
Hello all,

On Friday before the NGS AGM at the weekend I received the first moulded samples of the new Collett BG.  I managed to take a couple of quick snaps before sending to the General Secretary by overnight courier so the members could see it!

Here are some photos.  I'd be interested in any feedback.  At the moment I am querying the odd "notch" on the lower edge of the gangway rubbing plate (I think it's just where it was removed a little hastily from the sprue) and there has been some discussion about the "rivets" (actually screwheads) on the roof; some are saying they look right, some are saying they should not be there.  As there is a disagreement, it seems sensible to leave them to (a) avoid any cost implications with changing them and (b) because it's easier to file them off if you don't want them than add them if you do!

One side view:



The other side:



End.  Note notch in lower edge of gangway:



Apologies for the poor quality of the shots - as explained they were snapped quickly on a phone....

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Re: NGS Collett BG
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2014, 02:42:48 PM »
Ben, did you ensure there were enough Rivets for the counters though ? :D



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Re: NGS Collett BG
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2014, 03:01:03 PM »
Orders for it were reported to be very strong.

I'm not surprised; I've ordered 2 in maroon and I'm considering a third in a different colour, possibly BR Blue.

Really looking forward to seeing the finished article.

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Re: NGS Collett BG
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2014, 03:05:58 PM »
Only 3? You are positively restrained. I have ordered 5 (no idea where I will run them all).  :-[
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