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Author Topic: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics  (Read 17411 times)

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2015, 08:39:57 PM »
Trouble for me is that the Merchant Navies didn't normally run west of Exeter and usually had at least 12 on. The Light Pacifics were more modest machines and would be perfectly feasible with just a 3-coach set. Sadly the latest I have heard for the Light pacifics is that they are still around 12 months away. :(

The only time I saw Merchants on short trains was between Bournemouth and Weymouth when working the express from Waterloo.

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2015, 12:46:58 PM »
Trouble is, Mike, I'm modelling the transition era in Oxfordshire so there's a limit I can get away with - hence wanting a late crest B.o.B.

Given the S&DJR stories of unreliability for the smaller spam cans, you could say your BoB failed and was replaced en route to Oxfordshire - either by a couple of trusty 4Fs if it's coming via the S&D or a T9 if via Salisbury.  ;)

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2015, 01:30:15 PM »
Pete, drifting off the subject a bit, normal route for ex LSWR lines to get to Oxford was via Basingstoke, Reading, and would be trains for Birkenhead, or York and Newcastle,   for Central and Eastern sections of SR traffic was normally routed Rugby, Willesden, Acton, Kensington to Clapham Jnct.

in the 20s and early 30s T9s could get as far as Birmingham Snow Hill, then mid 30s replaced by N15s or moguls until post WW2 then WC/BoB N15 or Nelson, also sometimes standard 5MT into the 50s and 60s. It's also possible that the occasional Schools and MN made the trip.

When the Pines express was re routed in the 60s that could have had any of the same classes as above for that period, whatever Bournemouth shed chose to deploy.
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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2015, 03:46:44 PM »
The Light Pacifics were more modest machines and would be perfectly feasible with just a 3-coach set.


Ha ha, looks like I don't even need a 3-coach set. In what has to be the biggest case of overkill on the railways, Nš34069 Hawkinge is handling a single Brake Composite as the Up train from Illfracombe.  :laugh:

Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2015, 04:15:07 PM »
Thanks for that pic, Matt.
Knowing my luck it will be all the Dapol version can haul :worried:

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2015, 06:06:44 PM »
They also had a regular single coach return trip between Wadebridge and Padstow, although if the ACE was late a Beattie well tank often deputised.

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2015, 07:40:39 PM »
In the 60s when M7s were being withdrawn the Bournemouth - Brockenhurst  service run over the "Old Road" via Wimborne and Ringwood which had been an M7 push pull would see WC/BoB or BR standards hauling the 2 coach push pull sets.
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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2015, 01:17:10 PM »
i want a merchant navy, but my problem is, theres no merchant navys preserved in spam can form!

all spam cans are either BoBs or West Countrys...i doubt i could change the name into a west country or something could i?
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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2015, 01:36:12 PM »
i want a merchant navy, but my problem is, theres no merchant navys preserved in spam can form!

Yet.

None of the Duchesses was preserved in streamlined form either. But now there is!

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2015, 01:59:19 PM »
id be surprised if any of the merchant navys were turned back into spam cans!
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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2015, 03:33:04 PM »
id be surprised if any of the merchant navys were turned back into spam cans!

I would be surprised too as unlike the Duchess which basically just needed a streamlined casing, the Merchant Navy would need a number of mechanical modifications, not least the reinstatement of the rather unique Bullied chain-driven valve gear!

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2015, 04:11:19 PM »
Gents, my comment was tongue in cheek, really!

But hang on a second... they built an entire A1 pacific from scratch. Compared to that, messing about with a few chains and pipes is nothing... surely???

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2015, 04:13:30 PM »
Don't forget Rule 1  :D

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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2015, 04:22:51 PM »
I bet  it's  them  chain  driven  gears  causing  the problem..
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Re: Battle of Britain/West Country pacifics
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2015, 09:20:44 PM »
It has been proposed to restore 35009 Shaw Saville Line in original air-smoothed condition. I don't know if it will ever happen but the intention could be enough to invoke Rule #1. ;)
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