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Whats best for low hills?
« on: August 31, 2013, 06:59:47 AM »
I am looking to add some low hills only 20-30mm high, whats the best method for building these low hills?

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Re: Whats best for low hills?
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2013, 07:57:01 AM »
I don't know if you have a document shredder at home but take some of the shredded paper and cover it in kitchen roll which has been soaked in a household DIY filler

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Re: Whats best for low hills?
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2013, 07:58:38 AM »
I use strips of card and weave it together pack with paper that I shred, then I put masking tape over it all followed by plaster of paris cloth, it seems to work for me.
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Re: Whats best for low hills?
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2013, 08:27:07 AM »
I have used layers of corrugated card cut randomly to give contours and them covered this with paper mache.

It takes a while to dry off (a good few days) and then painted it with Woodland Scenics Earthwash
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Re: Whats best for low hills?
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2013, 08:48:53 AM »
I have previously used polystyrene in blocks to build up to the required height of  the hill in sort of an Aztec pyramid way. Once this is done shredded paper mixed with a PVA solution is added to turn the block structures into natural looking gradients. Wait till the solution hardens. This should be ready for painting then.


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Re: Whats best for low hills?
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2013, 08:53:12 AM »
I don't know if you have a document shredder at home but take some of the shredded paper and cover it in kitchen roll which has been soaked in a household DIY filler

I do have a shreder. The filler I  am thinking of is quite thick, do you thin it down or am I thinking of the wrong thing.

Paper mache, not used this since school, shreaded paper of course and water. PVA maybe but in what proportion?

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Re: Whats best for low hills?
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2013, 09:01:01 AM »
Hi,

I stick off-cuts of wood at various heights (going up to the backboard in my case) in various places, in fill with anything available, newspaper, bubble wrap etc. then cover with mod roc or the cheaper plaster bandage you can get (can't remember it's name).

My layout is under the bed so have to have NO MESS in the bedroom. Find that instead of soaking the mod roc first, if you put it in place then spray it with water and smear the plaster with your fingers and/or a brush it seems to work.

Quick and easy although if you've got a big area the plaster bandage isn't cheap.

Not massively sturdy but OK. Hope that future scatter and glue will strengthen it more. Have no trees so if you are doing trees there might be a problem fixing them.

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Re: Whats best for low hills?
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2013, 09:24:21 AM »
I've used polystyrene tiles layered and cut to rough shape.
Then top that with tile grout.
Best to mix the grout with a little acrylic paint (brown or green) to stop white showing through when you paint it.
I paint the finished hills with varying shades of green and brow (so it doesn't appear too uniform) then use scatter material (again not all the same). If you add the scatter whilst the paint is still wet, you won't need to add diluted PVA.
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Re: Whats best for low hills?
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2013, 11:53:07 AM »
I've used 50mm Celotex insulation board which is great for shaping with a hacksaw blade or knife, just stick to the baseboard and peel off the top layer and away you go - 'very messy job though', but good fun.
Cover with two layers of plaster bandage to give a durable finish.

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Re: Whats best for low hills?
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2013, 10:18:33 PM »
I don't know if you have a document shredder at home but take some of the shredded paper and cover it in kitchen roll which has been soaked in a household DIY filler

I do have a shreder. The filler I  am thinking of is quite thick, do you thin it down or am I thinking of the wrong thing.


Yes - I thin the filler down to a consistency that isn't too runny/messy but isn't too thick it doesn't soak the paper towel

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Re: Whats best for low hills?
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2013, 01:37:17 PM »
I personally use bits of packing polystyrene, roughly and messily hacked into a vague shape, and then covered with paper mache type thing. (the brown paper you get in amazon parcels works well!)
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Re: Whats best for low hills?
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2013, 02:58:22 PM »
I've tried most of the methods mentioned here, but the one I currently favour is to weave bits of thin card (cereal boxes) into the desired shapes, using thicker bits for formers to give more of a structure. Then I cover with strips of an old pillow case soaked in an old tin of emulsion paint I had left over. Works well for me.
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Re: Whats best for low hills?
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2013, 07:11:50 PM »
I've used 50mm Celotex insulation board which is great for shaping with a hacksaw blade or knife, just stick to the baseboard and peel off the top layer and away you go - 'very messy job though', but good fun.
Cover with two layers of plaster bandage to give a durable finish.

Ian.

My preference too. The heavy foil top layer can be used to form shapes and gullies.

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Re: Whats best for low hills?
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2013, 07:27:14 PM »
Another vote for packaging poly, hack to approximate shape with an old bread knife or razor saw, or a hot wire tool if you have one, that reduces the mess of poly bubbles hiding all over the layout.

I cover with the cheapest polyfilla clone I can find, I have a set of various shaped artists palette knives which I use to spread and sculpt the filler.

On one layout a few years back Iused an old bed sheet ripped into useable sized pieces dipped  into paster made up a bit runnier than you would use on a wall and drape that over whatever I had handy, card, wood, chcken wire, or packing foam. You could also probably use the small lumps of poly foam that are used for loose packing, even layers of bubble wrap could be used for low hills.

If using plaster, mod roc, polyfilla or similar I always mix with some suitably coloured  diluted brown or green emulsion paint (DIY store "match pots")  or Woodland Scenics "ground colours" when you get the proportions right  you hardly need to paint the surface before adding scatter/flock etc.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2013, 07:28:59 PM by Dorsetmike »
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Re: Whats best for low hills?
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2013, 07:34:17 PM »
Now I understand what I was doing wrong and why Mrs mereman wasn't pleased with me. I should have used OLD sheets and pillow cases.................. :laugh3:
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