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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #120 on: April 06, 2016, 12:23:53 PM »
All lovely looking models, but I'm afraid the only thing that really puts me off is diameter of the wheel flanges.....


The flanges aren't that deep - it's just the silver rims that make them look a bit toytown. You can paint these and improve it all a lot - for example the J39 on the right has had this done (amongst other things):



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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #121 on: April 06, 2016, 01:55:53 PM »
Phoned an order to Colin yesterday afternoon and these arrived in the post this morning...

(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)

I forgot to add that one reason for purchasing these was that 40543 was a Leicester Midland loco & was one of the first locos that I 'spotted' in my trainspotting days which started in the late 1950s.

I model the Midland Line in the Transition era so both locos are appropriate although I already have more locos than I need.

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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #122 on: April 06, 2016, 02:08:26 PM »
Are there any UM locomotives which would have been puttering around the Birmingham/West Midlands area in the BR era? My kettle knowledge is pitiful but acquiring a UM loco is on my bucket list and if possible I'd like to have one which might fit in with some layout plans I have.
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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #123 on: April 06, 2016, 02:22:12 PM »
Are there any UM locomotives which would have been puttering around the Birmingham/West Midlands area in the BR era? My kettle knowledge is pitiful but acquiring a UM loco is on my bucket list and if possible I'd like to have one which might fit in with some layout plans I have.

Have you looked at this site which has photos of most Union Mills models :-

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=union+mills+models&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=rW3iU_CJB4O60QXQ8IDgCg&sqi=2&ved=0CC8QsAQ&biw=1093&bih=434


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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #124 on: April 06, 2016, 02:25:14 PM »
Are there any UM locomotives which would have been puttering around the Birmingham/West Midlands area in the BR era? My kettle knowledge is pitiful but acquiring a UM loco is on my bucket list and if possible I'd like to have one which might fit in with some layout plans I have.

The G2 definitely.



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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #125 on: April 06, 2016, 02:40:34 PM »
Are there any UM locomotives which would have been puttering around the Birmingham/West Midlands area in the BR era? My kettle knowledge is pitiful but acquiring a UM loco is on my bucket list and if possible I'd like to have one which might fit in with some layout plans I have.

Have you looked at this site which has photos of most Union Mills models :-

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=union+mills+models&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=rW3iU_CJB4O60QXQ8IDgCg&sqi=2&ved=0CC8QsAQ&biw=1093&bih=434

The problem is even if I known the type or what it looks like, I have virtually no inkling of what would have run where when... Hence the question...
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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #126 on: April 06, 2016, 02:43:41 PM »
Are there any UM locomotives which would have been puttering around the Birmingham/West Midlands area in the BR era? My kettle knowledge is pitiful but acquiring a UM loco is on my bucket list and if possible I'd like to have one which might fit in with some layout plans I have.


The G2 definitely.



Cheers,
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Excellent, thanks! Here's one puttering into New Street:

http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/lnwrbns_br2922.htm
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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #127 on: April 06, 2016, 02:48:20 PM »
The problem is even if I known the type or what it looks like, I have virtually no inkling of what would have run where when... Hence the question...

Have a look on youtube at some of the archive footage from the 1960s in the Birmingham area (quite a bit at Snow hill) for inspiration.

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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #128 on: April 06, 2016, 03:22:41 PM »
The problem is even if I known the type or what it looks like, I have virtually no inkling of what would have run where when... Hence the question...

Have a look on youtube at some of the archive footage from the 1960s in the Birmingham area (quite a bit at Snow hill) for inspiration.

Ah yes, London Tube Stock ;)
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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #129 on: April 06, 2016, 03:41:59 PM »
Are there any UM locomotives which would have been puttering around the Birmingham/West Midlands area in the BR era? My kettle knowledge is pitiful but acquiring a UM loco is on my bucket list and if possible I'd like to have one which might fit in with some layout plans I have.

I can only comment on LMR locos but certainly the following would all have been seen around Birmingham as all were allocated to Sheds in the Birmingham area...2P, 2F, 3F, G2. There might have been the occasional visit from a Fowler 7F as these were mainly allocated to sheds in Lancashire.

Cauliflowers would also have been seen as at least one was allocated to a West Midlands shed in BR Days but I believe that all of this class were scrapped by 1955.

According to the Stock List that Colin sent with my locos he doesn't current have any G2 or 7F in stock and does not have a 2F in BR Black. So the two locos that I have just received are your best bets. I also have a Union Mills G2 and that is a superb loco.

Hope this helps.


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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #130 on: April 06, 2016, 03:46:18 PM »
Gaah, that Flying Scotschappie too. And Sir Winnie. Where will the madness end?
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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #131 on: April 06, 2016, 03:50:09 PM »
Are there any UM locomotives which would have been puttering around the Birmingham/West Midlands area in the BR era? My kettle knowledge is pitiful but acquiring a UM loco is on my bucket list and if possible I'd like to have one which might fit in with some layout plans I have.

I can only comment on LMR locos but certainly the following would all have been seen around Birmingham as all were allocated to Sheds in the Birmingham area...2P, 2F, 3F, G2. There might have been the occasional visit from a Fowler 7F as these were mainly allocated to sheds in Lancashire.

Cauliflowers would also have been seen as at least one was allocated to a West Midlands shed in BR Days but I believe that all of this class were scrapped by 1955.

According to the Stock List that Colin sent with my locos he doesn't current have any G2 or 7F in stock and does not have a 2F in BR Black. So the two locos that I have just received are your best bets. I also have a Union Mills G2 and that is a superb loco.

Hope this helps.
Thanks, I'll investigate. Actually I have a reasonable chance of identifying grouping-era kettles and BR standard classes, but the UM stuff is really off my radar.
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« Reply #132 on: April 06, 2016, 03:53:16 PM »
Thanks, I'll investigate. Actually I have a reasonable chance of identifying grouping-era kettles and BR standard classes, but the UM stuff is really off my radar.


2P:



2F:



3F:



7F:



HTH,
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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #133 on: April 06, 2016, 05:52:32 PM »
Thanks, I'll investigate. Actually I have a reasonable chance of identifying grouping-era kettles and BR standard classes, but the UM stuff is really off my radar.


7F:



HTH,
Alan


Here's a 7F at Warwick, travelling towards Birmingham.
http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrw388.htm

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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #134 on: April 06, 2016, 07:26:18 PM »
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