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Offline Southernboy

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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #105 on: February 01, 2015, 01:26:49 PM »
Exquisite - and I think enhanced by the fine track and ballasting.
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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #106 on: March 07, 2015, 04:00:33 PM »
Recent arrival from the Isle of Man, an addition to the 1930s fleet on 'Dunestone':





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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #107 on: March 07, 2015, 05:27:58 PM »
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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #108 on: March 07, 2015, 09:41:16 PM »
That's a fine looking engine - you're spoilt for choice with that, the T9 and the "Black Motor". The Southern had a fine range of characterful engines and these are some of the best.

Like to see another picture if you decide to add your own bits and bobs.

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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #109 on: April 29, 2015, 03:21:47 PM »
Comparing the  0395 with the Dean goods it might be a do-able hack, lose the sand box from front splashers, hack the cab roof, replace dome and safety valves, lengthen smoke box and lose the slight slope of the 0395 at the same time maybe also reduce the front overhang.

Tender is the main problem though, too big! Has anybody got any ideas for a smaller motor so the tender body can be lowered?

Alternatively could the body height be reduced a bit then an overload of coal added on the top.

May not be possible to get all dimensions accurate but should be possible to make a reasonable "looks like" job.
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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #110 on: April 29, 2015, 06:03:43 PM »
Yes the tender heights are an area for compromise when converting these locos.  A few years ago I turned a J25 into a tolerable J36 (compulsory loco for someone with West Highland interests alongside my dominant GSW).  The size of the tender almost hides the cast the loco itself is on the small side to be "accurate".  However it looks tolerable

I do agree that 3441 has the makings of a Dean Goods!

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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #111 on: May 01, 2015, 09:56:39 AM »

Tender is the main problem though, too big! Has anybody got any ideas for a smaller motor so the tender body can be lowered?

Alternatively could the body height be reduced a bit then an overload of coal added on the top.

May not be possible to get all dimensions accurate but should be possible to make a reasonable "looks like" job.

I was wondering what 's the smallest size of tender that can be fitted around the UM drive? I make the top of the UM motor 17.2mm above top of rail height, with the top of the coal on the 395 (also used on the T9/700) tender about 22mm, so there would seem to be around 5mm to play with. Scaling off my OO K's model Dean Goods tender suggests that the top of the coal rails on this model would be 19.2 mm above track level so it would seem feasible.

Is there a minimum recommended clearance between the top of the motor and the tender body(e.g.  for cooling purposes)?

Richard

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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #112 on: May 01, 2015, 10:27:08 AM »
Greetings,
I used a UM tender drive for my LBSCR Single:
http://www.ngaugesociety.com/uploads/images/AMMC/AMMC2010/ClassJ-Winner-2010L.jpg

I also fitted the under sized tender wheels with Farish ones (need to add pickup strips as Farish wheels insulated both sides). I've had no problems with heat with the tender top a hairs breath above the motor.

Gareth

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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #113 on: May 01, 2015, 11:02:35 AM »
why am I suddenly thinking about Midland singles and 2-4-0's ?????

I will have to stop reading posts on here

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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #114 on: May 01, 2015, 11:08:27 AM »
Thanks Gareth

The tender drive looks good with the larger Farish wheels fitted. I guess that if I wanted some I'd have to buy one of the Farish tender chassis spares sold by BR Lines et al. I'm considering doing an unrebuilt Drummond 700, mainly because ther's a 1901 picture of it in LSWR Locomotives by Bradley going through the "levs" at St Cross, Winchester where I spent/wasted a lot of my early teenage years trainspotting. This has a 13ft wheelbase with 4ft wheels and the UM tender with larger wheels would seem a better option size wise than using a Terrier chassis with its c 12 ft wheelbase


Stunning loco , not surprised it won an award

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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #115 on: May 01, 2015, 11:16:04 AM »
Hi Richard,
You don't need to buy a whole tender chassis, BR Lines stock just the wheels, I've bought numerous.
Regards
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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #116 on: January 14, 2016, 08:30:30 PM »
Greetings,
I used a UM tender drive for my LBSCR Single:
http://www.ngaugesociety.com/uploads/images/AMMC/AMMC2010/ClassJ-Winner-2010L.jpg

I also fitted the under sized tender wheels with Farish ones (need to add pickup strips as Farish wheels insulated both sides). I've had no problems with heat with the tender top a hairs breath above the motor.

Gareth


No wonder it runs so well!!! If I were very, very brave, I'd try to make a single like yours. I find myself looking at pictures of it quite often. I was wondering today if UM engines were suitable for kits because of their good reviews, now I know they are more than suitable! :)
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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #117 on: April 06, 2016, 11:56:20 AM »
Phoned an order to Colin yesterday afternoon and these arrived in the post this morning...

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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #118 on: April 06, 2016, 12:10:15 PM »
Nice!  Service from UM is first class . :thumbsup:
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Re: Union Mills locos - photos
« Reply #119 on: April 06, 2016, 12:18:17 PM »
All lovely looking models, but I'm afraid the only thing that really puts me off is diameter of the wheel flanges.....

 

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