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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #135 on: May 17, 2014, 03:20:03 PM »
That is one very imposing building, Paddy, and much too grand for what I'm modelling :thumbsup:
Is it scratch built? I don't recognise it being from any kit :-\

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #136 on: May 17, 2014, 03:35:26 PM »
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #137 on: May 21, 2014, 02:51:18 PM »
FENCING - ANOTHER ATTEMPT PART 1

Due to the difficulties of painting PECO flexible fencing I bought some Ratio lineside fencing (code 217) to try.  In my opinion the quality of the Ratio fencing is rather poor with flash and a very nasty plastic.  Also, there seems to be no way to join lengths of fencing together unless I have missed something?  At nearly £4 per pack I am not impressed so far.

The next step is to paint the Ratio fencing and then use it around Hollerton Bus Garage.  I will share my findings in due course.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #138 on: May 23, 2014, 10:19:03 AM »
FENCING - ANOTHER ATTEMPT PART 2

Painting

As with the PECO fencing the painting process was:
  • Wash and dry the fencing thoroughly
  • Prime the fencing with Humbrol Spray Acrylic Grey Primer Matt 1
  • Apply a top coat of Humbrol Spray Acrylic Dark Brown Matt 29
  • Leave to dry for 24 hours
Results

Sadly I have to report that the Ratio fencing takes paint less well than the PECO product and has to be handled with care to avoid chipping.

To join each section of fence together I decided to cut the end fence post in half on each piece prior to gluing i.e. when joined the two halves give the appearance of one post.  Another problem is gluing as I have yet to find a glue that will stick the Ratio (or PECO) fencing together quickly and neatly.  Whatever plastic is used seems to be glue resistant!  Having said that, I have found that Loctite Super Glue Power Flex Gel Control to be about the most effective so far.

The next step before fitting the fencing to HOLLERTON JUNCTION is to touch up the joined posts with dark brown (brush applied this time).

So in summary I would have to say that the Ratio fencing product is no easier to use than the PECO one.  In both cases the fencing looks realistic (for me) when finished but is far from a “Ready to Plant” product.  In fact, I would say the PECO lineside fencing is actually a better quality product overall.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #139 on: May 23, 2014, 10:23:07 AM »
I've never had any of these issue Paddy, and TBH never bothered to undercoat either... I used Tamiya Acrylic through my airbrush and I use ROCKET Super 16 Second glue to join them together without issue.



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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #140 on: May 23, 2014, 10:28:29 AM »
I've never had any of these issue Paddy, and TBH never bothered to undercoat either... I used Tamiya Acrylic through my airbrush and I use ROCKET Super 16 Second glue to join them together without issue.

Blimey, I must be unlucky!  I only undercoat as when I applied just the top coat on the PECO fencing the paint literally fell off.  I suppose it could be a Humbrol Acrylic problem although in every other use I have found them to be excellent.  Possibly a real airbrush is more "gentle" in the paint application than an aerosol?

Sounds like I need to get some of the Rocket glue - I will add that to my shopping list.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #141 on: May 23, 2014, 10:36:22 PM »
I've never had any of these issue Paddy, and TBH never bothered to undercoat either... I used Tamiya Acrylic through my airbrush and I use ROCKET Super 16 Second glue to join them together without issue.


Can you please identify which glue you mean...

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #142 on: May 25, 2014, 06:06:00 PM »
BUSES PART 7 - GARAGE DEVELOPMENTS

Work on Hollerton Garage continues with the installation of a bus/coach parking area, footpaths, shelter and perimeter fencing (the painted Ratio product).

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Photo 1.  Cobbled area for parking buses on.

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Photo 2. Pavements around the bus station and gasworks (note the bus shelter).

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Photo 3. Ratio fencing installed around the bus garage perimeter.

The next step is to add additional ground cover and foliage around the fencing to embed it in the ground.  Once this is complete the buildings can be added and the area finished off.

More to come...

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #143 on: May 30, 2014, 08:09:25 PM »
BUSES PART 8 - GARAGE DEVELOPMENTS

The Ratio fencing has been installed and embedded in to the ground (see photo 1).

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Photo 1. Finished fencing.

The rear wall of the bus garage also looked rather bare so I downloaded some posters from the web and printed them on photo paper.  I am really pleased with the quality of the printed images although I am not sure a bus company would allow posters for trains and planes!

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Photo 2. Rear wall of the bus garage with posters added.

Work has now started on creating an area where the buses can be refueled.  I had no idea what a 1960s petrol/diesel pump looked like so once again Google was my friend and I found:

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/avery-hardoll.htm

This site gave me some basic dimensions and allowed me to create some suitable artwork for the pumps.  I will show the results of my "modelling" in the next post.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #144 on: May 31, 2014, 07:50:14 AM »
BUSES PART 9 - GARAGE DEVELOPMENTS

Here is another photo showing the bus parking area complete with storage building and three buses resplendent in their Crossville livery.  The storage building is an old Graham Farish Scenecraft kit that I have weathered to match the main bus garage building.

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Photo 1. Completed parking area.

As mentioned yesterday the next project is to build some petrol pumps where the buses can be fuelled.  Using the dimensions of the Avery-Hardoll Model S I calculated the pumps should be about 5mm x 12mm x 3mm (wxhxd).  To make the body of the pumps I cut out 10 pieces of 1.5mm card so that I could make 5 pumps (1 is a spare for testing purposes!).

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Photo 2. Cardboard pieces that will form the pump bodies.

The pieces were then stuck together with PVA glue and allowed to dry for a few hours.

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Photo 3. Cardboard pieces stuck together.

The bodies were then primed (by brush) with Humbrol Grey Primer Matt 1 (another excellent product) and when dry lightly sanded with P2000 “wet ‘n’ dry” paper to produce a smooth surface.

A number of the period photographs show that pumps tended to have an illuminated “ball” on top of the pump with the oil company name on it.  After some thought I decided to represent these “balls” by using painted Berry pins as can be seen in photo 4.

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Photo 4. Primed pump bodies and Berry pins.

My initial plan was to print artwork that would completely cover the cardboard bodies but a test build did not look good enough (for me).  Therefore I decided to paint the pump bodies all over with Humbrol Red Matt 60 and to create artwork for the front and rear.

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Photo 5. Pump bodies painted red.

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Photo 6. Front and rear artwork for the petrol pumps.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #145 on: May 31, 2014, 08:41:23 AM »
Looking very nice Paddy, nice bit of scratch building and I think the graphics will set them off perfectly, very inventive.   :thumbsup:

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #146 on: May 31, 2014, 09:00:34 AM »
Looking good Paddy, are you just doing Shell, or will BP make an appearance?
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #147 on: May 31, 2014, 09:59:01 AM »
Thanks Cal - appreciate your kind comments.

Malc - just shell for the bus garage.  The artwork for the logo is really good for N gauge as it moved to red square background in the 1960s so easy to cut out!  ;)

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #148 on: May 31, 2014, 10:31:03 AM »
BUSES PART 10 - GARAGE DEVELOPMENTS

This morning I have been seeing how the bus garage building fits in to the area.  Photo 1 shows the results so far.

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Photo 1. Garage building in situ.

The artwork for the petrol pumps have been printed, cut out and stuck to the front and rear of the bodies.  I used 120gsm matt photo paper and I have to say the results are very crisp for a home printer.

When the glue was dry I applied two coats of Humbrol Matt Cote to protect the pumps and to ease later touching in of the paper edges.  Matt Cote seems to be a very good product although it does smell rather pungent!

By the way, why would you use Humbrol Matt Clear over Humbrol Matt Cote?  On the face of it they seem to do the same job.  No doubt I am missing something?

The heads of the Berry pins were painted with Humbrol Acrylic White Gloss 22.  It may be just me, but the Acrylic White Gloss did not cover very well despite a lot of mixing.  In total I must have applied five coats to get even coverage on the Berry pin heads.

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Photo 2. Assembled petrol pumps and painted Berry pins.

The next step is to carefully paint the edges of the paper with Humbrol Red Matt as they do stick out in their original white.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #149 on: May 31, 2014, 11:52:52 AM »
The bus garage and yard look a treat and the petrol pumps will set it off perfectly  :thumbsup:
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