N Brass LSWR G6 loco

Started by Bob G, December 27, 2020, 04:05:15 PM

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Bob G

Has anyone built a model of this loco.
It sounds easier to build than a scratch aid kit.
Is it worth getting the boiler rolled by N Brass (I expect it is).

It is not going to be an immediate build. The list of things I have to build is as long as my arm...but I do not like to turn away SR prototypes, and the China Farish 57xx chassis might start to disappear...

Bob

https://www.nbrasslocos.co.uk/xn28612.html


Dorsetmike

Yes, I did build one quite a few years ago; yes get the rolled boiler, (unless you can, or want, find some brass tybe or the correct diameter)

Get two, one without the rolled boiler and use the cab, bubker and side tanks to hack a Dapol M7 into a T1, wheels are right size, bogie wheel base needs shortening a bit, (wheels too big for an O2 though)
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Bob G

Hi Mike
Unfortunately the T1's were gone by 1936. Only a 48 year operating life!
I need something I can justify post 1955.
How many BHE N15s do you have?
Bob :)

thebrighton

I've built this but as an O2 but have to say as etched kits go I seem to recall it is unnecessarily complicated with you having to build the tanks etc up but then overlay them with an outer skin. Also if you use the Farish 57xx chassis the body will sit too high. That said it builds up into a nice loco.

Dorsetmike

QuoteUnfortunately the T1's were gone by 1936. Only a 48 year operating life!
Errrrrrrrr, 14 entered BR service, although only 3 survived until May '51, just checked in Bradley, I knew I'd seen some in the late 40s, one was sub shedded from Bournemouth to Hamworthy Junction.

As for BHE N15s I'd have to do a count up, I've done a fair bit of hacking and mixing Langley S15 bodies with BHE tenders counting both Langley and BHE I have at least 10, I've covered all variants except the 6 wheel tenders and N15s with Watercarts, Langley S15s with both tenders and some with Maunsell cab, H15s early with raised step over cylinders and later with level footplate, Arthurs, Urie and Maunsell, but so far none with watercart (first Eastleigh batch rebuilt Drummonds) I think I can find a Watercart in one of the to do boxes so that should cover that.
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Bob G

Quote from: Dorsetmike on December 27, 2020, 05:07:28 PM
QuoteUnfortunately the T1's were gone by 1936. Only a 48 year operating life!
Errrrrrrrr, 14 entered BR service, although only 3 survived until May '51, just checked in Bradley, I knew I'd seen some in the late 40s, one was sub shedded from Bournemouth to Hamworthy Junction.
That's why I should have looked at my references first, rather than taking the easy route (Wiki)

Quote from: Dorsetmike on December 27, 2020, 05:07:28 PM
As for BHE N15s I'd have to do a count up, I've done a fair bit of hacking and mixing Langley S15 bodies with BHE tenders counting both Langley and BHE I have at least 10...
Not surprised :D

I foolishly sold my unmade kit, but it was pre BHE era. Was it a Brian Hughes kit previously? Had a nice tender, but the whitemetal body was really rough. No cab windows either, IIRC.

Bob

Dorsetmike

Not Brian Hughes, can't remember at the moment,  might have been DJH or some similar name , but BHE got a number of kitsfrom the same source; biggest problem was not so much the body as the chassis it was designed for the Poole Farish black 5, wheel spacing way out and wheel diameter was way small, looked slightly better on a Duchess chassis wheels were about correct size but spacing was still wrong, all the Poole Farish 6 coupled had identical chassis except for wheel size, a few minor differences if it was a tank loco or Pacific to cope with rear coupling on tanks and pony truck on Pacifics.
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Bob G

Hi Mike

So the S15 I bought last week had a Farish Black 5 chassis and the watercart was a well modified unpowered dummy rather than the Fleischmann 716x powered tender/chassis combo. I had an S15 once before but sold it on as I was not happy having a lined green early BR crest version, and I couldn't bare the idea of stripping it and starting again.
Is the Fleischmann chassis better than the Farish for wheels and valve gear on an S15?
I have to say mine looks ok from two foot viewing distance, so I'm happy with it.
I guess one day I'd like an S15 with a proper Urie tender.

Best
Bob

PS this is not a thread drift as it's my thread!!!!




Dorsetmike

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The Fleischmann 716x series are pretty close to exact, if anything the drivers may be a fraction small. If you get the Langley kit and a Fleischmann loco, you can use the tender behind a UM T9 and use the T9s tender drive for a BHE tender

A while ago I posted a "how to" on fitting a BHE tender with a UM drive and a spare pair of wheels,

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=37655.msg446004#msg446004

I have some spare etched bogie side frames which need cast axle boxes from Nbrass or BHE

You can see some of the end results here

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2855;area=showposts;sa=topics;start=45

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PGN

I built one of these ... it was my first brass locomotive, and I was so proud of the result that I made it my avatar pic on this site!

I built mine with cyano, not solder. I'm not quite ready to try soldering a loco yet. Well ... I was having a go at one of his C classes ... and then the Bachmann RTR model came out!

Unfortunately, I recently took mine off its chassis to change the brushes, and now I cannot get it to go back together again. I think that the bottom of the boiler is catching something and just a little tweak will sort it all out again ... but at the moment I can't fathom out exactly WHAT needs to be tweaked, and how ... so it's sitting on my non-runners' road for the time being ...
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