Dapol Supercreep Motors

Douglas C · April 10, 2012, 12:23:43 PM

Hello !
New here and haven't managed to get through the wealth of information and good advice yet. I don't yet have any Dapol locos, but will be tempted by the forthcoming class 27. My question is - just how good are these Supercreep motors and do they give v e r y slow running

Dr Al · April 10, 2012, 12:33:02 PM

Yes, they do give very slow running.

On the flip side there have been some batches of them that have been clearly iffy - first Britannias and B1s had a lot of reports of overheating. I know I have had real problems with a first batch Britannia slowing and surging ant moderate speeds - I ended up changing the brushes in an attempt to cure it - the jury is still out on this as a fix.

Cheers,
Alan

Dock Shunter · April 10, 2012, 02:44:03 PM

Hi Douglas...

I have been impressed with the supercreep motors in the latest Dapol Diesels.
The 26's and the 121's can run at really slow speeds (as long as the wheels and track are clean).
Here's a vid i made of the 26 running through pointwork at slow speed and it ran even slower on a straight piece of track..........
The 26 was running on DCC with a Lenz silver mini decoder fitted.....
The Dapol 58 is another really good slow runner.......

Dapol 26 creeping through points...HD

Douglas C · April 10, 2012, 03:08:27 PM

Thanks both for for the information.
That is a most impressive video Dock Shunter and answers my question very definately

Lawrence · April 10, 2012, 03:09:06 PM

Welcome to the forum Douglas, feel free to start a thread telling us about your plans and showcase your work

bluedepot · April 10, 2012, 08:08:10 PM

i'm very happy with my 58, 121 and HST! all running very nicely so far!

i have an old class 73 that i got second hand, and that is not running too great.... but everything i bought new works brilliantly so far so i can't fault dapol's new locos!

tim

ray · April 10, 2012, 10:46:41 PM

So what's new? Back in the mid 1990's on our club layout, Marfield, which had about 11ft on show, we were challenged to see how slow we could run a goods train. A kit Fowler o-8 o on a Farish chassis, pulling 30 odd wagons took nearly 30 mins to traverse the front of the layout! the challenger was impressed!
Ray

K-N-Gauge · April 13, 2012, 03:25:35 PM

Quote from: ray on April 10, 2012, 10:46:41 PM
So what's new? Back in the mid 1990's on our club layout, Marfield, which had about 11ft on show, we were challenged to see how slow we could run a goods train. A kit Fowler o-8 o on a Farish chassis, pulling 30 odd wagons took nearly 30 mins to traverse the front of the layout! the challenger was impressed!
Ray

Dapol use a 1:40 gear ratio (1:30 on the new a4's) and graham farish use to use a 1:25
So with dapol the motor needs to turn 40 or 30 times to turn the wheels once, so GF would turn 25 times to turn the wheels one.
So in theory the dapol super creep should be able to travel alot slower in reality god knows! Lol someone should test this!