Stanier Suburbans from Dapol

[joe cassidy]

 

[Roy L S]

Expressions of interest are typically taken by a manufacturer to establish whether a project is viable, they are not in themselves pre-orders, do not establish a "place" in a queue and are in no way binding on anyone even after a manufacturer confirms the minimum order quantity threshold has been met.

We know that Dapol has said it is satisfied that enough people want the coaches and based on that they commenced tooling, I would expect that at some stage further down the line they will invite people to place orders, maybe at that point they might ask for a payment, either a deposit or in full but possibly neither.

On the subject of availability, I would think it is inconceivable that they wouldn't order sufficient from the factory to cover known pre-orders, probably with a (possibly small) margin.

Roy



 

[Yet_Another]

I have no interest in these coaches, but my experience with the prototype HST was that Dapol had registered my interest, and when the project reached the point of pre-order, I received an email invitation. As others have said, the EoI is just a survey, really.

[madchadbrad]

Maybe this from Peter's Spares?
EBay.uk item #314587589414

I asked "Peter" of Peter's Spares fame and all he said was that all the items pictured on eBay are included in the item.
Which doesn't tell me whether the Push-pull apparatus is part of the selection!
Not very helpful I'm afraid.

[PLD]

Maybe this from Peter's Spares?
EBay.uk item #314587589414

I asked "Peter" of Peter's Spares fame and all he said was that all the items pictured on eBay are included in the item.
Which doesn't tell me whether the Push-pull apparatus is part of the selection!
Not very helpful I'm afraid.

Well... The link shows as invalid, but...
Look at the picture;
Is the Push-pull gear in the picture?
If yes, it's included in the selection. If no, it's Not included in the selection.

Seems perfectly clear to me... 

[madchadbrad]

Maybe this from Peter's Spares?
EBay.uk item #314587589414

I asked "Peter" of Peter's Spares fame and all he said was that all the items pictured on eBay are included in the item.
Which doesn't tell me whether the Push-pull apparatus is part of the selection!
Not very helpful I'm afraid.

Well... The link shows as invalid, but...
Look at the picture;
Is the Push-pull gear in the picture?
If yes, it's included in the selection. If no, it's Not included in the selection.

Seems perfectly clear to me... 

That might be true if I knew what I was looking for: I have no idea what the push-pull gear would look like as a separate spare part!

[Richard Taylor]

As others have said, the EoI is just a survey, really.

Yes, I've assumed that Dapol have used the EOI process both to assess demand and to build a mailing list to invite orders when production starts. By expressing an interest you've committed yourself to nothing and I doubt Dapol have retained any lists of precisely what each person expressed an interest in - just the aggregate numbers which allowed them to make the decision to go ahead with production.

[class8mikado]

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Seems perfectly clear to me... 
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That might be true if I knew what I was looking for: I have no idea what the push-pull gear would look like as a separate spare part!
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Well i dug out my spare body and checking with photos of the real thing on Google images - Found this   https://glostransporthistory.visit-gloucestershire.co.uk/Push%20Pull%20YTT.html  - my spare has gear intact on one side but damaged missing (from the crash) from the other  so sorry cant help.

[madchadbrad]

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Seems perfectly clear to me... 

That might be true if I knew what I was looking for: I have no idea what the push-pull gear would look like as a separate spare part!
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Well i dug out my spare body and checking with photos of the real thing on Google images - Found this  https://glostransporthistory.visit-gloucestershire.co.uk/Push%20Pull%20YTT.html  - my spare has gear intact on one side but damaged missing (from the crash) from the other  so sorry cant help.
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Many thanks for that article! Difficult to tell whether the "Dapol spares" kit I spotted chez Peter's Spares includes the necessary parts though ... ... ... I might just buy the kit to find out, now there are prototype photos for reference!
If you have a photo of the undamaged side of your push pull loco I can compare it with a non-push-pull loco and try fit bits from the spares kit to suit? Then all I would have to do is renumber the loco to be ready for the forthcoming suburban coaches.

[Steven B]

You can find photos of the previous Ivatt 2-6-2MT here:
Hattons Version Details

Or, compare to Dapol's O Gauge model:
Photo 1
Photo 2

You're looking for all the extra gubbins either side of the smoke box (in place of the normal cylinder exhaust pipes).

[class8mikado]

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Seems perfectly clear to me... 

That might be true if I knew what I was looking for: I have no idea what the push-pull gear would look like as a separate spare part!

Well i dug out my spare body and checking with photos of the real thing on Google images - Found this  https://glostransporthistory.visit-gloucestershire.co.uk/Push%20Pull%20YTT.html  - my spare has gear intact on one side but damaged missing (from the crash) from the other  so sorry cant help.
[/quote]

Many thanks for that article! Difficult to tell whether the "Dapol spares" kit I spotted chez Peter's Spares includes the necessary parts though ... ... ... I might just buy the kit to find out, now there are prototype photos for reference!
If you have a photo of the undamaged side of your push pull loco I can compare it with a non-push-pull loco and try fit bits from the spares kit to suit? Then all I would have to do is renumber the loco to be ready for the forthcoming suburban coaches.
[/quote]

Steven B has saved me the job

[madchadbrad]

Many thanks Steven B and Class8mikado, and everyone else who has chipped-in with. Helpful comments!

[Newportnobby]

@Adam1701D

Do you have any clue as to when our EoIs can be turned into orders please? (I track orders but not EoIs)

I doubt Dapol have retained any lists of precisely what each person expressed an interest in -

@Richard Taylor I don't believe that to be the case, but maybe Adam could confirm this. I'm assuming minds may have changed since the OP so some 'slop' in the system has to exist