Coach advise sought - transition period, thompson, stanier, mk1's, others ?

[Papyrus]

and the teak ones would have long gone.

It ain't necessarily so.

I have a video of an Eastern Region branch line in 1959 and the stock is definitely still teak. I also remember teak quad-art sets in sidings around that period, but whether they were still in use or just awaiting scrapping I can't be sure.

Cheers,

Chris

[Newportnobby]

A lot of crack WCML expresses were class 40 hauled even in the late 1950s/early 1960s, with Maroon mk1s. Bear in mind that they were ignored by most photographers and film makers, so you won't get a full picture from the various DVDs out there.

I have a dozen or more DVDs of green diesels so if anyone wants recommendations drop me a PM.
Most appear in the DVD review section anyway.

[Dalek]

This has melted my brain...   

I guess the problem is that I won't be modelling anywhere specific, although I want to get it to look period correct if you know what i mean ? No mixing era 4/5,with 7/8 etc. I want to run end of steam/start of diesels, all green diesels without warning panels aren't that common to buy i have also found.

I intend to build a sort of generic location so I can run era and location specific through it.

Maybe I should think about this the other way round ? I was looking to buy some Thompson coaches before there were none left to buy, but I know that I will really be needing them in maroon to suit era 5 and I will buy some when these are available/made (anybody know if that is even planned or announced?)  i can get away with a few Crimson & Cream mixed in with those.

So if I think about it another way, what would the new sound equipped 8F be pulling coach wise? Were 8f's all around the country or just in specific area's ? That info would also help.

I am also thinking of cost, so i have also been looking at Gresley, Collett & Hawksworth as these I have found are cheaper then Thompsons, I know the Thompsons are really nice and hence why these are more expensive but it would be nice to have a bit of variety and not end up smashing the bank completely to bits, also been trying to come up with a mixture of different tyres of coaches as per other threads and suggestions, thanks for those 

Craig

[Paul J]

Hi

8Fs would be mostly on the London Midland Region. They were freight engines so would not be on passenger trains.

Typical LMR passenger engines during the transition would be Black Fives, Jubilees, Royal Scots, Duchesses (on Anglo Scot WCML), Britannias, class 40s, class 45/46 (on Midland Main Line), class 24/25s, Fairburn tanks. A bit later on 47s. Plus many others. I am just listing stuff available RTR. The yellow panels appeared from about 1962 onwards.

Edit. Crimson and cream would be virtually if not totally extinct by 1962 so I would definitely focus on maroon livery for the coaches.

[martyn]

and the teak ones would have long gone.

It ain't necessarily so.

I have a video of an Eastern Region branch line in 1959 and the stock is definitely still teak. I also remember teak quad-art sets in sidings around that period, but whether they were still in use or just awaiting scrapping I can't be sure.

Chris;

This could be again the ER stock being painted in Teak or dark brown-Stratford, at least, did this.

Martyn

[Newportnobby]

Hi

8Fs would be mostly on the London Midland Region. They were freight engines so would not be on passenger trains.

Typical LMR passenger engines during the transition would be Black Fives, Jubilees, Royal Scots, Duchesses (on Anglo Scot WCML), Britannias, class 40s, class 45/46 (on Midland Main Line), class 24/25s, Fairburn tanks. A bit later on 47s. Plus many others. I am just listing stuff available RTR. The yellow panels appeared from about 1962 onwards.

Edit. Crimson and cream would be virtually if not totally extinct by 1962 so I would definitely focus on maroon livery for the coaches.

Agree with everything Paul has posted, although a large percentage of 8Fs were allocated to the NW of England (Manchester up to Carlisle), a smaller percentage in the NE of England (Sheffield etc), many were based in Wales and some on the Western region. It would be unusual to find one on a passenger working unless maybe deputising for another failed engine as a stopgap.
48151 is frequently seen on West Coast Railway Company special tours, though

[crewearpley40]

Theres a potted history here https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2020/01/lms-stanier-8f-steam-locomotives-class-information.html  as for Type 4s the Caledonian, Royal Scot, Irish Mail , Merseyside expresses saw these locos .

[PLD]

8Fs would be mostly on the London Midland Region. They were freight engines so would not be on passenger trains.

8Fs were a popular choice for Summer Saturday excursions in the 50s/60s. They may not have been the fastest, but they could shift a dozen or more fully loaded coaches with ease. Excursions also often took them off region - they certainly made it to Scarborough, Cleethorpes and several of the South Coast resorts on such workings. There's a photo somewhere of two together at Scarborough having both worked excursions from the West Riding.