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Title: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 12, 2012, 08:07:15 PM
At 17.00 hrs the almost empty conservatory looked like this

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/Framingconstruction001.jpg)

By 19.30hrs it had been transformed - directly in front of the camera is a lift out flap

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/Framingconstruction002.jpg)

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/Framingconstruction003.jpg)

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/Framingconstruction004.jpg)

This gives me an area of 7ft 6 x 7ft with a useable width of 2ft all round. It stands 43" tall.
Updates will follow when there is something to show, but I will be taking a weeks holibobs next week ;D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Gordini5 on June 12, 2012, 08:11:16 PM
My mouths watering at the thought of what is to come. Good size area. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: davieb on June 12, 2012, 08:20:30 PM
Looking good so far Mick  :thumbsup:

the frame work looks First class
looking forward to your progress

just one minor point
the tree in the background of the first pic looks a wee bit overscale  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  ;D

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on June 12, 2012, 08:30:03 PM
How on earth did you manage to wrangle the use of the conservatory?

Plenty of space there, lots of natural light, especially this time of the year.
One concern, if it is like our conservatory then it gets very hot in the summer.

Malc
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Lawrence on June 12, 2012, 08:46:59 PM
Bloomin superb mate  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Maurits71 on June 12, 2012, 08:47:32 PM
Nice and quick  :)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Jack on June 12, 2012, 09:32:24 PM
I'm beginning to break the "10th commandment"... That shall not covenant thy forum member's new train room!"  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Donkey on June 12, 2012, 09:41:47 PM
Wow, great start Nobby  :thumbsup:. Really looking forward to seeing your layout develop. Nice bit of carpentry there too  :thumbsup:

Marty
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Pete Mc on June 12, 2012, 10:01:57 PM
Bloomin heck Mick,is this what you previously referred to as the "man cave"?
If it is,then well done fella.I was under the impression that you were building a room within your garage or something along those lines.A conservatory is a very nice place to spend time,all that sun light coming through the glass,no spiders and webs to keep shifting and all the space you have as well.A layout that size is going to be a sight to behold and I do like a roundy.Had one a tad larger in oo as a kid,but n gauge is going to look huge.
You'll be able to give those kettles and green diesels a good leg stretching on there.
Marvellous.

Pete
 :Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Dock Shunter on June 12, 2012, 11:44:43 PM
Absolutely cracking start Mick............ :thumbsup:
Your baseboard frames look solid.
Will be great to see you get some track down next week...... :thumbsup:

       :NGaugeForum:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: bigbob on June 13, 2012, 12:46:47 AM
Kimbolted..............I take it Kim is the Mrs and thats how you got the space??   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Mustermark on June 13, 2012, 02:34:04 AM
Congratulations Mick.  Great start.  Must be exciting. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 13, 2012, 08:12:20 AM
Thanks for all the kind comments, but I must fess up and state I am the sort of DIYer who can reduce perfectly good timber to a pile of matchwood and sawdust so I had someone make these for me and just helped assemble them.
if it is like our conservatory then it gets very hot in the summer.
Malc

Quite right Malc - there is another set of french windows that lead into the bungalow so I hope excess heat can be dispersed.

Kimbolted..............I take it Kim is the Mrs and thats how you got the space??   ;D ;D


Almost hit the nail on the head, Bob ;)

The original track plan will still be used but with the addition of a cement works on the left hand side and (hopefully) more roads in the fiddle yards. Two track main line running round the outside 2" higher than the inner loop which will contain the station, goods yard and loco storage facilities. This was drawn based on a solid board so you have to imagine I am now stood in the middle of it. Era is 1955-1965 steam/diesel based loosely in Oxfordshire.

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Layout-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 13, 2012, 11:34:15 AM
How on earth did you manage to wrangle the use of the conservatory?

Plenty of space there, lots of natural light, especially this time of the year.
One concern, if it is like our conservatory then it gets very hot in the summer.

Malc

Also that bright direct sunlight does terrible things to models fading the colours and turning some plastics brittle.

Definitely needs care if it gets direct light.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Lawrence on June 13, 2012, 11:53:08 AM
How on earth did you manage to wrangle the use of the conservatory?

Plenty of space there, lots of natural light, especially this time of the year.
One concern, if it is like our conservatory then it gets very hot in the summer.

Malc

Also that bright direct sunlight does terrible things to models fading the colours and turning some plastics brittle.

Definitely needs care if it gets direct light.

Not to worry Al, Mick has had extra blinds fitted to keep heat and light to an acceptable level
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 13, 2012, 11:55:09 AM
Yup - spent a fortune on blinds for every window :o
The roof is opaque but is where most of the heat comes from, I reckon (when we have sun, that is).
I guess there is a trade off against it being in an outbuilding.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on June 13, 2012, 04:49:32 PM
I used to apply green house sun filter to the roof of ours. It did help to keep it cool. Not as much as when I removed the glass roof altogether and put a solid one on.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: MinZaPint on June 13, 2012, 07:19:11 PM
Great progress Mick pleased to see your plans coming together, surprised you’ve not got a connection from your fiddle yards to the lower level I know the 5 fingered manual cranes can work wonders however; best of luck and most importantly enjoy  :thumbsup:
so you have to imagine I am now stood in the middle of it.
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When have you not been in the thick of it or more likely up to your neck in it!  ;D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 13, 2012, 08:56:27 PM
Thanks, David.
The outer loops are purely to watch good length trains go by and, as they will be 2" higher than the inner loop, they will have their own fiddle yard at the same height difference but also create scenic opportunities. I am planning a cement works where the exit will pass underneath the outer loops and re-enter the inner loop by passing again under the outer loops. It all makes sense in my head but I've yet to get it down on paper/SCARM ???
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Tank on June 13, 2012, 08:59:12 PM
Great news Mick!  Wonderful to see you've got started.....and an excellent start it is.  :)  What EMU's have you got? ???  ;D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 13, 2012, 09:12:35 PM
What EMU's have you got? ???  ;D

Stupid boy, Pike. ::)

I am, however, ODing on the smell of freshly cut timber 8)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 23, 2012, 01:29:04 PM
Update on progress (as I have had a week off work to get going)

Looking through to the end where the cement works will be

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/Kimboltedbaseboards002.jpg)

Looking across to the twin height fiddle yard

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/Kimboltedbaseboards003.jpg)

Pics were taken without the lift out section. I need to finish off the individual framing for each board and then apply the rubber sheeting I will be using as underlay
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on June 23, 2012, 04:19:28 PM
Looks good Mick, coming on a treat!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Pengi on June 23, 2012, 05:24:46 PM
Very neat work NN - jealous!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Mustermark on June 23, 2012, 10:02:33 PM
Nice work.  Good to see your progress. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Donkey on June 23, 2012, 10:34:55 PM
Excellent  :thumbsup:

Marty
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Pete Mc on June 25, 2012, 05:52:03 PM
Hey up Mick,boards are looking good.Having just read your reply(?) in the angry thread about the upper section,I see you have made progress in this area.I used 2x1 on its end and 2x1 on its side to make the upper section 3inches higher than the lower section.This,I have found to my detriment,is too high for what I need so its the next job on the list,having pushed in front of doing the bus wires and behind sorting out the track over the board joins.
So thats a fair bit more wood to use for summat else,what,I have no idea yet.
After looking at your track plan,as well as reading somewhere that you intend on just running trains round the raised section,I just wondered whether you had thought about having a girder bridge running ove the lower loop with inclines on so the two could be linked up.This would be suitable on either the left or right hand side and as you have a total length of about 5ft 6in of usable space,is doable.That way,your trains will get a good run out,it will add operational interest and if done properly,like some exhibition layouts,a girder bridge will look splendid.It also means that when you have guests who take an interest,you can show off a bit and set points so it doesn't just go round and round.
It'll go round and round,up and round then down and round a bit more!
Just athought Mick,hope you don't mind.It is your layout after all. :thumbsup:

Pete
 :Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 25, 2012, 06:08:23 PM
Hi Pete,

Thanks for the kind comments and suggestions.
I got my head sorted and ploughed on, and found that 2 x 1 (actually only 44mm x 20mm) provides a perfectly good clearance for stuff to travel under.
I really don't want inclines, as I have sadly found the traction on most of my Dapol locos to be wanting on the flat :(
However, from the cement works I plan on one of the sides, a line will meander underneath the top running lines and reappear further round joining the lower level again, just for some extra interest
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: OwL on June 25, 2012, 06:54:02 PM
We need the envy button installed. Good progress Mick :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Gordini5 on June 30, 2012, 10:04:14 AM
Can't wait for the next installment. This is going to be good. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on July 01, 2012, 05:22:45 PM
Update.
The sundeala has been cut to shape and now the rubber underla has been cut to fit the boards. Next stop - loosely laying the track to see where the points motors (Seep) will fit and then make up the framing for the sundeala boards avoiding the point motor holes.

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/th_Rubberunderlaylaid.jpg) (http://s1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/?action=view&current=Rubberunderlaylaid.mp4)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on July 01, 2012, 05:33:01 PM
It's going to be magnificent when it's finished. Mind you, it will take you a while.

Good work

Malc
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on July 01, 2012, 05:34:56 PM
You have been working hard, I do like the video guide, much better than a series of pictures  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Pengi on July 01, 2012, 06:03:43 PM
Great progress NN, plenty of space for a couple of Eurostars to glide round the track :evil:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bikeracer on July 01, 2012, 07:24:23 PM
Looks like you're getting there now,first class job.


Allan
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Mustermark on July 01, 2012, 07:30:49 PM
Good stuff NN! It must be startingt o feel like a layout.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Pete Mc on July 01, 2012, 07:51:49 PM
That rubber is       shiny!

Sorry,just been watching Beavis and Butthead.Looking marvellous Mick,
Just like everyone elses comments,I can't wait for more.
Later

Pete
 :Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Gordini5 on July 02, 2012, 09:06:48 PM
As I thought, looking very interesting :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: MinZaPint on July 03, 2012, 09:53:46 AM
All that shiny rubber! no wonder Liz went for Shane!  :evil:  :smiley-laughing:

Looking good Mick and nice vid  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on July 16, 2012, 12:54:50 PM
Quick update - no pics worth taking yet.
The upper level tracks/fiddle yards have been completed.
No power yet but I couldn't resist the temptation to run a loco back and forth for about 9ft and, okay, it was one of my smoothest runners (Farish Western), but the rubber certainly gives excellent sound deadening.
I did resist the temptation to connect more up and have a good play :angel:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Caz on July 16, 2012, 01:17:59 PM
Nice to see you've made a good start, looking forward to seeing its progress, looks promising, you'll just have to take early retirement so you can crack on  ;D   ;D   ;D

Caz
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Tank on July 16, 2012, 01:27:57 PM
Quick update - no pics worth taking yet.

Boo!  Get that camera out or don't post! :evil: :camera: :camera:                     :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on July 16, 2012, 01:57:44 PM
Nice to see you've made a good start, looking forward to seeing its progress, looks promising, you'll just have to take early retirement so you can crack on  ;D   ;D   ;D

Caz

You don't know how close you got with that one, Caz.
I'm working on it :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Mustermark on July 16, 2012, 06:05:38 PM
Nice to see you've made a good start, looking forward to seeing its progress, looks promising, you'll just have to take early retirement so you can crack on  ;D   ;D   ;D

Caz

That was my plan too.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on July 17, 2012, 07:04:49 PM
As previously reported the upper level fiddle yards were finished last weekend.

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/Upperlevelfiddleyard.jpg)

Tonight I have been messing about with the station design. I have abandoned the all singing, all dancing 4 platform face etc station I had planned as it was not really in keeping with a single track branch line. I guess this version probably won't last either, but I like it at the moment

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/Stationandyard.jpg)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Tank on July 17, 2012, 07:56:48 PM
Very good work buddy.  Are you qualified to use that knife?!  ???  ;D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Mustermark on July 17, 2012, 08:04:59 PM
That's some very neat trackwork. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on July 17, 2012, 08:21:07 PM
Very good work buddy.  Are you qualified to use that knife?!  ???  ;D

My Mum has superglued the guard onto it.
It took me two days to cut a slice of Victoria sponge. ::)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Tank on July 17, 2012, 08:23:06 PM
 :smiley-laughing:

Hmmm.....Victoria Sponge!!!  *drooling*
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Caz on July 17, 2012, 09:10:44 PM
Very good work buddy.  Are you qualified to use that knife?!  ???  ;D

Hope he is, I'm certainly not  :'( but me stitches come out tomorrow so back to modelling  :)

Caz
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Donkey on July 17, 2012, 10:10:12 PM
Good work NN  :thumbsup:, following this with interest.

Marty
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Mr.Grumpy on July 18, 2012, 12:55:49 PM
I'd like to add a similar soundproofing underlay to my first layout - can you PM me a link to the vendor? (assuming you bought it online)

Cheers,

Ed
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on July 18, 2012, 01:17:27 PM
I'd like to add a similar soundproofing underlay to my first layout - can you PM me a link to the vendor? (assuming you bought it online)

Cheers,

Ed


Hi Ed,

Here is a link to their website. I bought commercial rubber 1.5mm thick. It comes in a width of 1.4 metres and they wind it onto a core to get it to you so carriage can be quite costly!!
If you ring them, ask for Warren.

http://www.keithpayneproducts.com/Gaskets_&_Seals-Enquiry_Form.htm (http://www.keithpayneproducts.com/Gaskets_&_Seals-Enquiry_Form.htm)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Gordini5 on July 18, 2012, 01:49:46 PM
Coming on nicely, despite us all spending time in the gardens this glorious summer, Doh............. :smiley-laughing:

Taking shape quickly. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Guy on July 18, 2012, 07:58:23 PM
Looking really good so far Nobby, I like the rubber idea.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Caz on July 18, 2012, 08:05:31 PM
Looking really good so far Nobby, I like the rubber idea.  :thumbsup:

Seems a bit kinky to me, your secrets out Mick  :evil:    :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on July 18, 2012, 08:34:04 PM
I've got enough left over to make a pair of.................. :-X :angel:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Mustermark on July 18, 2012, 08:52:45 PM
Looking really good so far Nobby, I like the rubber idea.  :thumbsup:

I like the rubber idea.  :thumbsup:

Seems a bit kinky to me, your secrets out Mick  :evil:    :smiley-laughing:

Don't encourage him!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Gordini5 on July 19, 2012, 07:08:20 PM
I've got enough left over to make a pair of.................. :-X :angel:

Too late :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Dock Shunter on July 19, 2012, 08:23:14 PM
I've got enough left over to make a pair of.................. :-X :angel:


WELLIES........ ::)...isn't that right Mick...... ::)
For all this rainy weather we've been having..... :thumbsup: ;D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: MinZaPint on July 20, 2012, 12:03:12 PM
Well done Mick, with all the help you've given others and the work you do on the forum it's great to see you making good progress on your own layout, keep up the good work and I hardly need say keep up the posts and  :camera:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on July 21, 2012, 03:54:46 PM
Thanks for the kind words, David :thumbsup:

Well, I took delivery of the Dapol Class 26 ND145H yesterday along with the weathered Farish 08. Oh heck, I have lifted my test track ::) So I slapped down an oval round the layout, and the 08 ran very well (apart from a waddle which seemed to settle down). However, the class 26 was dead as a dodo (see loco reviews - Dapol diesels Class 26). So I thought I'd dig out the Dapol 9F and the Dapol Brit as Ive never run them since I bought them ages ago due to my test track having 1st radius curves. I am pleased to say the 9F ran a treat and the Brit was good, albeit a bit noisy at first.

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/th_Tornadononothatone.jpg) (http://s1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/?action=view&current=Tornadononothatone.mp4)

Now being in a position to run something, I committed the cardinal sin of starting to play trains when there's so much more to do ::)

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/th_WesternFusilier.jpg) (http://s1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/?action=view&current=WesternFusilier.mp4)

I have severely reprimanded myself and desisted (for now ;)) and will try and make more progress tomorrow.
Oh, and I've sourced a height adjustable swivelling stool from my skin & blister which is great for viewing despite my derriere being slightly too big for the squab :o

Having reviewed this post, can anyone tell me why posting vids from Photobucket also carries a still of the vid????
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: portland-docks on July 21, 2012, 07:31:36 PM
If i were you, do your vids through youtube, and just post the link to it here, works fine for me
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on August 05, 2012, 02:44:32 PM
Update on this weekend's work.
Station trackage now laid, although there are 3 code 80 points I need to replace with code 55.

From the west

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/Stationfromthewest.jpg)

From the east

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/Stationfromtheeast.jpg)

I've also laid track for the cement works but this may have to be altered when the N gauge gravel buildings arrive in September (I hope)

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/Cementworksarea.jpg)

Just the branch line fiddle yard and the lift out board to sort and then start playing with the electrickery :uneasy:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Pengi on August 05, 2012, 03:17:26 PM
 :envy:

Looking good
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Caz on August 05, 2012, 03:38:58 PM
You're getting there 'ol fella, really starting to take shape.  Better stand by for the power cuts in Lancashire when the wiring starts  :laugh:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Oldman on August 05, 2012, 04:27:47 PM
 :greatpicturessign:
Glad to see you are progressing with your layout now.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Sprintex on August 05, 2012, 07:26:53 PM
I'm sure a little running session is allowed after all that trackwork  ;)

Looking good so far, and some lovely long runs there  :envy:


Paul
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: OwL on August 05, 2012, 08:51:21 PM
Looking good Nobby, you'll have to post some pictures of that 08 shunter you picked up.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on August 05, 2012, 09:07:58 PM
Having reviewed this post, can anyone tell me why posting vids from Photobucket also carries a still of the vid????

I don't know the answer to that one as I always use You Tube however I shall go and upload a video to Photobucket and see if I can shed any light on this for you - anything for the LM  :moony:

John.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on August 05, 2012, 09:14:13 PM
Looking good Nobby, you'll have to post some pictures of that 08 shunter you picked up.

Thanks, Dave. I'll get some done tomorrow night as I try not to use flash and it's a bit dim in there at the moment :camera:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Sprintex on August 05, 2012, 09:20:12 PM
Having reviewed this post, can anyone tell me why posting vids from Photobucket also carries a still of the vid????


The links you copied from Photobucket contain a URL link for displaying the video, and an IMG link that is producing the still picture below it  ;) Don't use PB myself to explain why both links have been provided, but it does explain why you're getting a video AND a picture. An easy fix would be to delete the IMG tags and everything inbetween, this bit:-

Code: [Select]
[img width=528 height=432]http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/th_Tornadononothatone.jpg[/img]

Paul
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on August 05, 2012, 11:22:58 PM
Well here is the video I uploaded to Photobucket  :whistle:

I deleted the part Paul wrote about and the end result is no picture  8)

 (http://s438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/Scotsoft/NGF/Kato%20Alco%20PA1%20%20PB1%20Southern%20Pacific/?action=view&current=76b3aafa.mp4)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on August 05, 2012, 11:30:43 PM
Very impressive John, I had to watch it twice to catch everything.
Malc
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on August 05, 2012, 11:39:42 PM
Thanks Malc,

I expect to get into trouble for doing it  :uneasy:  :telloff:

They were videoed ages ago when I was playing around with different cameras.

The Santa Fe F7 now has 12 passenger cars to pull.
The Morning Daylight has an additional 8 cars making up the full 18, about 9 foot long  :goggleeyes:

cheers John.

Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on August 06, 2012, 08:45:18 AM
 :envy: :envy: :envy: :envy:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on October 04, 2012, 09:52:01 PM
Nice to see you've made a good start, looking forward to seeing its progress, looks promising, you'll just have to take early retirement so you can crack on  ;D   ;D   ;D

Caz

That was my plan too.

That I can thoroughly recommend! I packed up at half past 63 and have enjoyed every minute of freedom since.  :claphappy:

Pics look great. Can't wait to see the next lot.

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: longbridge on October 05, 2012, 01:53:21 AM
Looking real good Mike and like the others have said nice to see you getting into it  :thumbsup: keep the pictures coming mate coz it looks like you have something real good going on there  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 27, 2012, 09:59:38 PM
I've started replacing all the code 80 I originally used with code 55 to avoid the 'step' difference and improve the running. The branch line fiddle yard now has 2 tracks laid.
By jury rigging some electrical connection I have managed to have at least 4 trains operational. Nothing is connected through switches yet as it was purely to see what ran OK through the point work and to assuage my need to see things running :-[
So far I have run a class 108, class 25, class 42 from Farish, a 14xx from Dapol and Minitrix Britannia, 9F and 2-6-2T. Everything runs just fine, bearing in mind it's just ole DC run through cab control (eventually). All points are Peco small/medium radius.
The only problem I have is that my Minitrix Brit slows down on the straights and speeds up on the bends - any clues anyone :confused2:

Sorry there are no pics but it's still just tracks on boards at present  :sorrysign:
I'm really looking forward to getting more of the plan up and running, but for a single bloke there seems to be too much else crowding my time :scowl:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Caz on October 27, 2012, 10:08:18 PM
Sorry there are no pics but it's still just tracks on boards at present  :sorrysign:
I'm really looking forward to getting more of the plan up and running, but for a single bloke there seems to be too much else crowding my time :scowl:

According to forum reports, could that be anything to do with all the beer and cheese you seem to be consuming.   :laughabovepost:   :P
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: davieb on October 27, 2012, 10:11:09 PM
what  ??? no photos  :o  :o

good to hear you have made some good progress and have go to run a few locos  :claphappy:
sorry i cant be of any help regarding the Minitrix Brit but i am sure someone will be along to help soon  :hmmm:

as for too much crowding your time you now have to resist the urge to run your locos  :D

dave  :thumbsup:

PS i agree with whiteswan regarding the beer and cheese theory  :-X
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 28, 2012, 02:52:53 PM
Not guilty regarding cheese (where did that come from ???) but hands up to the ale :whiteflag: :-[
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on October 28, 2012, 02:55:42 PM
Not guilty regarding cheese (where did that come from ???) but hands up to the ale :whiteflag: :-[

Probably from upnicks edible trucks thread  :P
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 05, 2013, 02:29:25 PM
Not strictly layout construction but I wanted to keep everything in one place so.......
Some folks don't like Lyddle End stuff but I bought these ages ago with the layout in mind and reckon they'll look pretty good when weathered and vegetated ( :confused1:)

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/LyddleEndgoodsshed.jpg)

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/LyddleEndlocoshed.jpg)

Played a bit more today and got my ACE out (they can't touch you for it :-X)

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/ACE1.jpg)

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/ACE2.jpg)

The Atlantic Coast Express breezes by on the up line of the higher level

 (http://s1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/?action=view&current=ACE3.mp4)

Thanks for looking :)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Tank on January 05, 2013, 02:43:58 PM
Very good Newportnobby.  If I was into steam then that's a train I'd like to run.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 05, 2013, 02:45:38 PM
Very good Newportnobby.  If I was into steam then that's a train I'd like to run.

I seem to recall I pipped you to the post buying it from another member :-[ ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Dock Shunter on January 05, 2013, 03:08:35 PM
I really like those buildings too..... :thumbsup:
As you say once they are weathered and set into their surroundings they will look great.
Enjoyed the vid......Short but sweet.....(did i really say that about a kettle vid.?....next thing you know i will be buying that Dapol Q1 i keep looking at and another Pannier Tank.........i must be coming down with something)....... :confused1:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 05, 2013, 03:10:41 PM
Thanks DS :thumbsup:
Nice to know steamers are starting to tickle your fancy :bounce:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Pengi on January 05, 2013, 04:42:05 PM
Engine shed looks good and so does the Atlantic Express - on its way to the South Coast? I'll give it a wave as it passes through  :wave: :wave:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: MinZaPint on January 05, 2013, 05:38:27 PM
they'll look pretty good when weathered and vegetated ( :confused1:)


And there we were thinking you were vegetating! good to see you've put knitting on the back burner!
Great pics and smashing vid  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: davieb on January 05, 2013, 07:03:27 PM
Hi Mick  :wave:

the buildings will look great once you have Blended them in with the scenery  :thumbsup:

That is when you get round to doing the scenery instead of playing "choo choos"  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :angel:

Seriously the layout is looking good and having seen it in the flesh i know we can expect great things to come  :thumbsup:

all the best

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: justintime on January 08, 2013, 07:03:06 PM
Fabulous layout, green with envy here :-[
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 08, 2013, 07:07:41 PM
Thanks,
It's a retirement project so I may even finish it before I  :dighole:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: justintime on January 08, 2013, 07:11:45 PM
Nice one.  I have been promised my own room once we move house later this year hopefully.  I intend to turn that into N Gauge heaven :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 08, 2013, 02:03:15 PM
The arrival of Dapol's Western Sovereign prompted the management at Kimbolted to arrange a Hydraulic Fest :D
For the spotters among you there are:-
Hymeks D7071/D7084 and D7093
North British Type 2 D6319
Paxman Type 1 D9523
Warship D817 Foxhound in maroon
Warship D814 Dragon in green
Western D1015 Western Champion in maroon
Western D1023 Western Fusilier in maroon
Western D1035 Western Yeoman in green
Western D1038 Western Sovereign in green
Yep - narry a blue thing in sight :P

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/HydraulicGathering1_zps00dbcb97.jpg) (http://s1086.photobucket.com/user/nobbynewport/media/Kimbolted/HydraulicGathering1_zps00dbcb97.jpg.html)

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/HydraulicGathering2_zps66c16c48.jpg) (http://s1086.photobucket.com/user/nobbynewport/media/Kimbolted/HydraulicGathering2_zps66c16c48.jpg.html)

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/HydraulicGathering3_zps24f7bb19.jpg) (http://s1086.photobucket.com/user/nobbynewport/media/Kimbolted/HydraulicGathering3_zps24f7bb19.jpg.html)

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/HydraulicGathering4_zps32e24d11.jpg) (http://s1086.photobucket.com/user/nobbynewport/media/Kimbolted/HydraulicGathering4_zps32e24d11.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Dock Shunter on October 08, 2013, 02:58:17 PM
Very nice Mick.... V-E-R-Y  N-I-C-E...... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Tank on October 08, 2013, 03:04:21 PM
Great to see some new piccies of the layout Mick.  :)  More please!

And, get yourself an NGF mug, the other one looks out of place! :laugh3:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Mike W on October 08, 2013, 03:10:02 PM
I'd missed this thread! Great stuff Mick. Why is it that I find the Farish Western better looking than the Dapol one? I think something is wrong with me!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on October 08, 2013, 04:07:54 PM
And, get yourself an NGF mug, the other one looks out of place! :laugh3:

He has no excuse either as at the last count he has 98 of them  :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: dodger112958 on October 08, 2013, 04:18:35 PM
 :greatpicturessign:

The maroon and green certainly look good together.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 10, 2013, 10:40:07 PM

And, get yourself an NGF mug, the other one looks out of place! :laugh3:


Your wish is my command, Oh Great One. :P

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/MugShot.jpg) (http://s1086.photobucket.com/user/nobbynewport/media/MugShot.jpg.html)

Needless to say, being a coffeeholic this is the 'bucket' size and takes a full kettle to fill it :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on October 11, 2013, 05:07:52 AM
Matches your Blackpool T shirt, Mick!  :thumbsup:

Talking of T shirts, I saw one in a souvenir shop in Windsor that read: "Keep calm, there's one prince left"  ;D I thought that was funny, anyhow.

Ps those green and maroon diesels look f.a.b.  :thumbsup:

George
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Sprintex on October 11, 2013, 06:11:33 AM

([url]http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/MugShot.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1086.photobucket.com/user/nobbynewport/media/MugShot.jpg.html[/url])

Needless to say, being a coffeeholic this is the 'bucket' size and takes a full kettle to fill it :D


Sounds good to me 8) Are they coming to Peterborough? If so I'll be happy to relieve you of one, gotta have a bucket of tea every couple of hours

(http://www.sprintexnet.co.uk/Images/sipping%20tea.gif)


Paul
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 11, 2013, 10:06:03 AM
The good news is they are coming to Peterborough :thumbsup:
The bad news is the ones I have are the 'standard' mug size, not the bucket so you'll just have to fill it more often :P
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 11, 2013, 10:11:16 AM
Having purchased a few lengths of retaining wall, I placed a sample piece where it will be sited. My question is this:-
The top of the retaining wall only protrudes 5-6mm above the upper baseboard level and the rubber underlay is 1.5mm thick. In effect, I will only have a 2ft wall on the upper level.
Could I get away with this or would I need to find summat to put under the base of the wall to increase the height? Any guidance would be appreciated. :thankyousign:

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/RetainingWall_zpsbacdcbe8.jpg) (http://s1086.photobucket.com/user/nobbynewport/media/Kimbolted/RetainingWall_zpsbacdcbe8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on October 11, 2013, 10:16:49 AM
How about plonking some railings along the top of the wall, that would be the cheaper option n real life and it will look less heavy than solid brick  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: portland-docks on October 11, 2013, 10:23:55 AM
Going off the railway i work on (ecml) the walls alongside railways need to be approximatly 4-5 foot high. I know at newcastle however where the tyne valley line drops below the ecml and goes underneath, all they have alongisde the ecml above it is railings but again they are approximatly 4 foot high
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Dock Shunter on October 11, 2013, 12:07:35 PM
How about plonking some railings along the top of the wall.

I would agree with John.
Maybe some spear fencing to stop anyone from climbing over..... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on October 11, 2013, 12:15:09 PM
How about plonking some railings along the top of the wall.

I would agree with John.
Maybe some spear fencing to stop anyone from climbing over..... :thumbsup:

Spear fencing I agree with but tip the spears with curare  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

The fencing would also give a better view of your locos as they chugged past  :heart2:

cheers John the merciful  :angel:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Dock Shunter on October 11, 2013, 12:24:01 PM
How about plonking some railings along the top of the wall.

I would agree with John.
Maybe some spear fencing to stop anyone from climbing over..... :thumbsup:

Spear fencing I agree with but tip the spears with curare  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

cheers John the merciful  :angel:

Merciful indeed........ :smiley-laughing: :D
Would be a good deterrent though...... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 11, 2013, 12:46:09 PM

Spear fencing I agree with but tip the spears with curare  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:


A nice idea to deter vandals and gricers, but I have to use about 4-5ft of this retaining wall and I can't think spear fencing would be prototypical (curare or not). However, I like the idea of fencing (despite the damage concern due to my clumsiness :worried:) so could anyone suggest the type of fencing likely to be used and also a source if possible. TIA
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Sprintex on October 11, 2013, 06:13:17 PM
Most of the guard rails I've seen are of the scaffold-tube variety?

Have a look here - http://www.nbrasslocos.co.uk/nline2.html (http://www.nbrasslocos.co.uk/nline2.html)

and scroll down to this . . .

2648 Tubular Guard Rails, used in depots and yards to protect walk ways and along the line to extend bridge parapets.  315mm in pack.

There's a link to a picture too ;)


Paul
 
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 11, 2013, 07:47:22 PM
If its that low then I would add guard rails on top and possibly also model the additional guard rails in the middle of the track.

Some of the bridges are actually quite alarming if you look closely - the viaduct at liskheard has no walls at all above the track level, just fencing, Moorswater likewise.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tunnel_one/7528714840/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tunnel_one/7528714840/#)

So you don't *need* to have walls above rail level.

Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 11, 2013, 10:55:39 PM

2648 Tubular Guard Rails, used in depots and yards to protect walk ways and along the line to extend bridge parapets.  315mm in pack.


Thanks Paul - that's more like it :thumbsup:
Although I'd need 4-5 of them it is still reasonably priced too.


Some of the bridges are actually quite alarming if you look closely - the viaduct at liskheard has no walls at all above the track level, just fencing, Moorswater likewise.



Thanks, Alan. That is actually quite scary, especially at that height :o :poop:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 12, 2013, 01:18:35 PM
Hi Mick,
A serious reply for a change. Depending on where you are putting the fencing, I created spear fencing in windows paint then printed it onto clear OHP film. Looked reasonable but I have lost it!!!.

Oh I also made up a fancy set of iron gates for  the scalescenes station for a parcels entrance. I found that bit...
(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd518/JerryHowlett/PA120001_zps400faf5e.jpg) (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/JerryHowlett/media/PA120001_zps400faf5e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 12, 2013, 04:53:47 PM
Not sure I can understand you when you try to be serious, Jerry :confused1: :D
Thanks for the info but I have a scale 750ft of 'parapet' to put fencing on and I don't really think spear fencing is the way to go :no:
The stuff Sprintex suggested is the nearest methinks, but even that is not quite what I think is needed. I seem to recall 'wire through post' would be a better compromise but am not sure where to obtain it.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on October 12, 2013, 05:03:42 PM
I don't think the wire through post would look right Mick, the one that Sprintex suggested would be my choice.

The wire through posts would be seen on top of embankments not brick walls, plus the tubular ones would be galvanized so maintenance would be minimal  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Sprintex on October 13, 2013, 10:19:11 PM
Having looked at many bridges on my daily travels they nearly all seem to have the tubular railings, hence why I bought some for the bridges on my layout :)


Paul
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 14, 2013, 11:51:12 AM
Watch out Mick its another serious post!  Post! :doh:
Are the tubular style railings suitable for the era of your layout?

Jerry
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on October 14, 2013, 12:14:59 PM
Strikes me that it will all to be a case of authenticity vs fragility.

I know that I ain't the nimble young sprite that I was and every little detail I try is gonna be knocked to bits the next time I even look at it.

I must admit I like the idea posted by Jerry of printing it all on acetate and lining it up all along the wall.... it would be scale appearance, and able to take the knocks, being relatively flexible. The only thing is, I suppose, that at certain viewing angles, you would get light reflecting from what was supposed to be fresh air between the horizontals...

Hard call, but that's the power of this forum.... to be able to get ideas.  :thumbsup:

George
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 14, 2013, 02:02:24 PM
Watch out Mick its another serious post!  Post! :doh:
Are the tubular style railings suitable for the era of your layout?

Jerry

I certainly remember lots of it when I was just a young gricer in Wolverton, especially on top of road bridges so that would have been in about 1963.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 14, 2013, 02:21:05 PM
Ok Mick,

I have just checked out the website and can see the picture now, agree fits in with the era as I have a picture of an overbridge taken early 60's showing these railings. I was thinking of the more modern stuff that I encountered in MY railway career.
Jerry
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Sprintex on October 15, 2013, 10:58:53 PM
Took this picture today from a layby on the A2. Unfortunately some git in a tipper lorry went past just as I pressed the button and blocked out the bridge over the road, but as you can see the tubular railings continue along the embankment for some distance ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7487.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7487)


Paul
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on October 16, 2013, 05:40:36 AM
Good picture. Shouldn't be too hard for Mick to duplicate

George
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 16, 2013, 11:15:14 AM
Good picture. Shouldn't be too hard for Mick to duplicate

George

The thought of another me in this world makes me shudder :worried:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on October 16, 2013, 09:34:06 PM
 :laughabovepost:

But they reckon everyone has a doppelganger...
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 31, 2013, 02:40:39 PM
Following the success of the Hydraulic Day, Kimbolted station put on a 'Type 2 day' with the following on display:-
Sulzers D7638, D5237, D7549, D5085, D5013, D5038.
BRCW's D5301 and D5307
Brush D5672
North British D6319

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7899.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7899)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7900.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7900)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7901.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7901)

This then lead the steam fans to ask why so many diseasels, so the staff also had a Tank Engine Day :D
Again for the spotters
2MT 41234, 3MT's 82028 and 82041, 4MT 80086, Jinty 47593, Collett 1466, Churchward 4570, Hawksworth 9401 and Riddles Std J94 68030 (bit off the beaten track :-[)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7897.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7897)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7898.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7898)

Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on October 31, 2013, 04:25:22 PM
Was that engine shed made by the same people that made the carpetbag owned by Mary Poppins?  :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 31, 2013, 07:41:41 PM
Was that engine shed made by the same people that made the carpetbag owned by Mary Poppins?  :D

Ummm - you have completely lost me there, John :confused1: ???
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Jack on October 31, 2013, 09:20:13 PM
Was that engine shed made by the same people that made the carpetbag owned by Mary Poppins?  :D

Ummm - you have completely lost me there, John :confused1: ???

...as in "did all those locos come out of the one shed..."  ;D  Mary Poppins unpacked her whole room from her magic carpet bag when she arrived, doing the reverse when she left.

Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 31, 2013, 09:23:06 PM
Thanks, Jack.
That one completely passed me by as I've never seen Mary Poppins :-[
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on October 31, 2013, 09:53:16 PM

... ... ...  I've never seen Mary Poppins :-[

Deprived childhood - poor kid!  :'(

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 31, 2013, 09:58:17 PM
Why do I feel I haven't missed anything? :P
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 31, 2013, 10:10:01 PM
On a more serious note, the dual track upper level is literally just for trains to run round and round via a 4 road fiddle yard for each of the Up and Down lines. For operating interest there is a passing loop which can be used by either direction. This pic shows the configuration. On the far left is the line that links the lower level branch line to the upper level (gradient is about 1 in 45). To the right of the link line is the goods avoiding loop that bypasses Kimbolted station and also provides access to what will be a cement works.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7896.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7896)

The only issue is that I have used Peco code 55 curved points as part of the curves at each end and, as they are of the same radius for both tracks, there is inevitably some compromise in getting a smooth transition. However, every loco I have including the big Dapol steamers runs through them very well, despite the points themselves being a bit lumpy. A closer view....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7895.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7895)

Finally, a view across the operating well to the fiddle yards on the opposite side....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_7894.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=7894)


Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on October 31, 2013, 10:22:11 PM
All looking good, Mick!!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on October 31, 2013, 10:29:49 PM
Very nice.  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: GeeBee on November 01, 2013, 09:35:25 PM
Looks good, look forward to more
GrahamB
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Greybeema on November 02, 2013, 07:08:49 AM
Nice looking layout.  I see you have the ambient sound generation system installed under the layout…
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Jerry Howlett on November 02, 2013, 12:37:40 PM
Thats a lot of Diseasels there Mick, for a steam era chappie. Like the long trains of similar wagons though.

Jerry
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on November 02, 2013, 12:59:45 PM
Just a lot of posing for 'Specials' days, Jerry :-[
I'll do a 'main line' steam version very soon ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: CarriageShed on November 02, 2013, 01:41:03 PM
How come I've missed this thread until now?  :confused1:

Great work, Mick. It's certainly starting to come alive, and I'm looking forward to the next instalment. I'm at the baseboard design stage, so your very first photos have helped a lot.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: dodger112958 on November 02, 2013, 01:55:47 PM
 :greatpicturessign:

Love all those tank engines Nobby. Look forward to more.
Ian
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 04, 2014, 12:42:10 PM
Due to ailing health (can't stoop to get under the layout ::)) there has been much devastation wreaked on Kimbolted. It was also extremely difficult to 'scenify' in it's old state.
So..... I have gone from having the baseboards all round the mancave with a central operating well.....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/thumb_9237.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9237)

..... to an 8ft x 4ft 'solid' board by utilising the longer side boards.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/thumb_9238.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9238)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/thumb_9239.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9239)

 The plan this time is to have the main lines running on a lower level (probably in a cutting) and the branch line on an upper level. The requisite fiddle yards will be on the same level as the running lines.
The lower level main lines will simply be 2 ovals passing through 4 road fiddle yards for each and visible from the front of the layout having emerged through/entered into tunnels. At the front of the layout will also be a bi-directional passing loop for freight trains.
I have to admit to a frisson of excitement with this new arrangement :laugh3:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Greybeema on January 04, 2014, 12:49:34 PM
Good luck with the new plan NN...
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: petercharlesfagg on January 04, 2014, 12:55:09 PM
My apologies, I had missed this thread for far too long!

I envy you the lovely dry, warm space and especially the dimensions of your "Man Cave!".

The layout looks both exciting and daunting at the same time but it still doesn't stop my feeling envious!!!

I sincerely look forward to further developments and will return often for updates.

Regards, Peter.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 04, 2014, 03:39:01 PM
Alas, I too have missed this excellent thread until now but look forward to seeing future progress.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: GeeBee on January 04, 2014, 05:08:17 PM
Due to ailing health (can't stoop to get under the layout ::)) there has been much devastation wreaked on Kimbolted. It was also extremely difficult to 'scenify' in it's old state.
So..... I have gone from having the baseboards all round the mancave with a central operating well.....

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/thumb_9237.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9237[/url])

..... to an 8ft x 4ft 'solid' board by utilising the longer side boards.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/thumb_9238.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9238[/url])

Looks good Mick hope you enjoy making the changes and like to see how you get on
 :thankyousign:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/thumb_9239.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9239[/url])

 The plan this time is to have the main lines running on a lower level (probably in a cutting) and the branch line on an upper level. The requisite fiddle yards will be on the same level as the running lines.
The lower level main lines will simply be 2 ovals passing through 4 road fiddle yards for each and visible from the front of the layout having emerged through/entered into tunnels. At the front of the layout will also be a bi-directional passing loop for freight trains.
I have to admit to a frisson of excitement with this new arrangement :laugh3:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: CarriageShed on January 04, 2014, 05:20:19 PM
The plan this time is to have the main lines running on a lower level (probably in a cutting) and the branch line on an upper level. The requisite fiddle yards will be on the same level as the running lines.

I have to admit to a frisson of excitement with this new arrangement :laugh3:

Where's the new track plan, Mick? ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Caz on January 04, 2014, 06:05:57 PM
I have to admit to a frisson of excitement with this new arrangement :laugh3:

Are you SURE the excitement is nothing to do with all that rubber.   ;)   :P
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 04, 2014, 09:14:40 PM

Where's the new track plan, Mick? ;)

This is where my plan falls to the ground. I was only hoping you would not point that out but I can see you're more than a match for me ( thank you Monty Python)
Sorry Pete, but it's in my head at the moment and I am enjoying sleepless hours refining it :goggleeyes:


Are you SURE the excitement is nothing to do with all that rubber.   ;)   :P

It's a left over from what I had to put on the bed, you know  :oopssign: :-[
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: port perran on January 04, 2014, 09:28:58 PM
Keep the updates coming.
Looking forward to developments.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Lawrence on January 04, 2014, 09:40:30 PM
I have to admit to a frisson of excitement with this new arrangement :laugh3:


Are you SURE the excitement is nothing to do with all that rubber.   ;)   :P


(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/evil-laugh-black-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/emoticons.html)

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/evil-laugh-black-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/emoticons.html)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: DCCDave on January 04, 2014, 10:16:55 PM
Looking great, you've clearly invested lots in the foundations. Looking forward to more photos

Dave
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: CarriageShed on January 04, 2014, 10:23:30 PM
I was only hoping you would not point that out but I can see you're more than a match for me ( thank you Monty Python)
Sorry Pete, but it's in my head at the moment and I am enjoying sleepless hours refining it :goggleeyes:

No one expects the Spanish Inquisition. ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: mk1gtstu on January 04, 2014, 10:44:32 PM
I've also somehow managed to miss this thread, nice size layout, I look forward to more updates. :thumbsup:

cheers, Stu. :)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Rowlie on January 04, 2014, 11:43:59 PM
I to seemed to have missed this, excellent idea to use the conservatory, look forward to the updates on progress
Regards...Rowlie
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on January 05, 2014, 01:13:25 AM
That's looking a lot more user-friendly, Mick. As you know from my recent PM's, I too are not overly happy about shufflin' around underneath baseboards and duck-unders at this stage in me life.

Hmm... a frission of excitement... not nuclear frission, one would hope.

But there again you wouldn't get all the innuendos about the rubber underlay - you'd have to replace it with lead.  :D

George
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Lee on January 05, 2014, 11:19:23 AM
Lovely size layout and loads of track will be loads of fun running in the future on that layout.

One thing I will try to convince you to do is (Don't it in mine) might be a bit late now you started the layout and that's add a false ceiling to the conservatory plaster board it and fill  3/4 with insulation mines used all round the year now it holds the heat in the winter and is a lot cooler in the summer. 8)

I am just a bit worried about the heat they can get to in there and would not want you to damage the track from expansion  ;)

Iam sure it will be fine but worth a thought

Lee
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 05, 2014, 11:39:58 AM
Thanks for the concern, Lee, but I have blinds covering every window (for privacy/security as much as anything else) and the conservatory lies off the bedroom so in hot weather I just open the patio doors. The conservatory has under floor heating so it's not that cold in winter as I can also open the patio doors and let convection do its work :D
Mind you, you wouldn't want my fuel bills :no: :o
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on January 05, 2014, 12:09:31 PM
NPN you have no idea wot Anne & I faced when we got home after daughter had the air conditioner running as a heater while we had our two months over there!!

Sorry, hijacking thread, but had to get it off me chest. Back on topic!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on January 05, 2014, 01:52:32 PM
Hmm... a frission of excitement... not nuclear frission, one would hope.

But there again you wouldn't get all the innuendos about the rubber underlay - you'd have to replace it with lead.  :D

George

I don't know George, I think that "Glow in the Dark" look could be quite fetching  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on January 05, 2014, 02:14:26 PM
Especially on NPN  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Lee on January 05, 2014, 02:35:05 PM
Thanks for the concern, Lee, but I have blinds covering every window (for privacy/security as much as anything else) and the conservatory lies off the bedroom so in hot weather I just open the patio doors. The conservatory has under floor heating so it's not that cold in winter as I can also open the patio doors and let convection do its work :D
Mind you, you wouldn't want my fuel bills :no: :o

Souds like you got it sorted then :beers:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: simong on January 05, 2014, 03:42:43 PM
Lee, interested in your false ceiling, I have sent you a PM as I am planning one myself and want to check a few points.  Thanks
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 12, 2014, 02:21:43 PM
Earlier on this week the Flat Earth Movement held sway on Kimbolted (note the drinking vessel for Baileys  :laugh:)........

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/thumb_9554.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9554)

However, this weekend has seen the raising of the scenic board for the branch line. Just leaves raising the branch line fiddle yard to the same height and then the fun begins with track laying and electrickery :worried:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/thumb_9555.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9555)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/thumb_9556.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9556)

The outer main lines will run at the lower level, but the track plan is still in my head to a certain extent ::)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: jonclox on January 12, 2014, 04:02:47 PM
How on earth did I loose sight of this epic thread back on about page 6 ?
Never mind I have caught up a bit now and will follow it with interest.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Lee on January 12, 2014, 06:07:05 PM
Nice update Nobby the Baileys cup looks out of scale needs to be a lot smaller then again if baileys is in it bigger the better hey  :P :P

 ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: jd on January 12, 2014, 08:15:40 PM
awesome thread and watching to see how this turns out. Plus you can't get a big enough cup for baileys lol :claphappy:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on January 12, 2014, 08:29:34 PM
Lookin' good there, NPN! I guess the NGF mug is big enough to dip the Baileys flavoured Magnum into the liquid Baileys, then  8)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on January 12, 2014, 11:46:14 PM
Starting to come together Mick, although it looks a wee bit rubbery at the moment, I'm sure it will turn out OK in the end.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: CarriageShed on January 12, 2014, 11:53:01 PM
I'm still waiting for the whip to appear to go along with all that rubber!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Caz on January 13, 2014, 08:48:38 AM
Queue Miss Whiplash   >:D   :)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 13, 2014, 08:54:49 AM
I'm still waiting for the whip to appear to go along with all that rubber!

With two mains and a branch, it'll be a genuine three-line whip  ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on January 13, 2014, 08:58:18 AM
Queue Miss Whiplash   >:D   :)

Who is hiding in the (sh)rubbery!  :wave:

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on January 13, 2014, 09:26:16 AM
Honestly, you people get what you deserve.  :angel:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Lawrence on January 13, 2014, 09:26:33 AM
Queue Miss Whiplash   >:D   :)

Well if the (leather) cap fits Caz  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on January 13, 2014, 09:29:59 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: CarriageShed on January 13, 2014, 09:55:43 AM
Honestly, you people get what you deserve.  :angel:

I definitely deserve a lot more than I get. ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on January 13, 2014, 09:59:07 AM
 :offtopicsign: but very funny!  :laughabovepost:

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 13, 2014, 12:28:53 PM
Can I just say that it was Lawrence who suggested the rubber in the first place? (That's dobbed him in it >:D)
Having said that, it is extremely easy to cut and has good sound deadening qualities.
No one can hear you scream :laugh:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on January 13, 2014, 12:52:49 PM
Always thought that was in space, not in rubber  8)

Honest, I'm not gettin' like the rest of 'em here.  8) I'm not falling into that trap  8) 8) 8) ;D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Lawrence on January 13, 2014, 01:27:16 PM
Can I just say that it was Lawrence who suggested the rubber in the first place? (That's dobbed him in it >:D)
Having said that, it is extremely easy to cut and has good sound deadening qualities.
No one can hear you scream :laugh:

Actually suggested neoprene as a possible method of sound deadening, didn't mean you had to cut up your old suits to lay under your trackwork  :)  ;D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 14, 2014, 03:52:25 PM
Having done some more work today, hopefully this will give you more of a clue as to what I'm trying to achieve.........

You can see the main lines on the lower level with the goods line being the middle track to allow expresses to pass by

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/thumb_9589.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9589)

The branch line on the upper level. To the extreme left there are 3 sidings for the loco shed and to the right of them is the goods yard.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/thumb_9590.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9590)

The fiddle yards are behind the backscene and are a mess at present. Just a modicum of Fishplate Finger suffered today :ouch:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/thumb_9591.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9591)

Lots still to do before electrickery commences as I have to complete the yards and then link branch line front to back.

Thanks for looking :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on January 14, 2014, 04:37:41 PM
Rapid progress, Mick!

Thanks for the update.

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: jonclox on January 14, 2014, 04:51:27 PM
Getting there  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on January 14, 2014, 07:08:56 PM
Mr Port-Dillow mentioned you on the telly tonight!

Does that mean you're famous and we now have to pay to speak to you?  :P

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 14, 2014, 07:50:04 PM
Newport Nobby may have some fame, but fortune has not followed so .........yes please :D

On a serious note, I know a lot of folks would be up in arms about losing their psychopath cycle path but I would just love to see the Nobby resurrected and run as a Heritage Light Railway. It's a great shame that Wolverton station is just a shadow of it's former glory too :'(
In my dining hobby room I have my father's retirement certificate after 43 years working in the Wolverton Carriage & Wagon Works (he retired 27th March 1987 although by then it was British Rail Engineering Limited)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on January 14, 2014, 08:02:51 PM
Nice to have that memento of your dad, Mick.

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: port perran on January 14, 2014, 08:06:39 PM
Good progress. I'm very envious of the amount of room you have available and hence the amount of track that can be fitted in.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: GeeBee on January 15, 2014, 09:55:41 PM
Having done some more work today, hopefully this will give you more of a clue as to what I'm trying to achieve.........

You can see the main lines on the lower level with the goods line being the middle track to allow expresses to pass by

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/thumb_9589.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9589[/url])

The branch line on the upper level. To the extreme left there are 3 sidings for the loco shed and to the right of them is the goods yard.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/thumb_9590.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9590[/url])

The fiddle yards are behind the backscene and are a mess at present. Just a modicum of Fishplate Finger suffered today :ouch:

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/thumb_9591.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9591[/url])

Lots still to do before electrickery commences as I have to complete the yards and then link branch line front to back.

Thanks for looking :thumbsup:


Hi, Mick,
You are really getting  on well best wishes
from Graham
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: lil chris on January 16, 2014, 12:01:18 AM
First time I have seen this posting but its coming on very nice now mick.You have some wiring to do there too I would think, I take it you are staying on DC.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 16, 2014, 10:54:31 AM
First time I have seen this posting but its coming on very nice now mick.You have some wiring to do there too I would think, I take it you are staying on DC.

I don't really have a lot of choice, Chris, as I have about 75 locos which would all require chipping and, having retired in June last year, I just don't have the dosh available.
The only DCC feature I'd like is the lights (where fitted) not being reliant on the loco moving. No doubt there is a 'fix' for that somewhere but I am not capable of dismantling stuff and putting it back together correctly :-[
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 16, 2014, 11:45:05 AM
First time I have seen this posting but its coming on very nice now mick.You have some wiring to do there too I would think, I take it you are staying on DC.

I don't really have a lot of choice, Chris, as I have about 75 locos which would all require chipping and, having retired in June last year, I just don't have the dosh available.
The only DCC feature I'd like is the lights (where fitted) not being reliant on the loco moving. No doubt there is a 'fix' for that somewhere but I am not capable of dismantling stuff and putting it back together correctly :-[

I fully understand, 75 locos would work out VERY expensive; I have nowhere near as many (and will have rather fewer once I've sold off all the spare ones; however, quite a few were bought DCC-fitted) and I'm scheduling a minimum of two locos. a month for DCC conversion which will, probably, take me to the end of this year!

I just like the convenience and flexibility of DCC; e.g. one passenger train was timetabled to have a (G)WR pannier and a Bulleid Light Pacific double-heading it, easy to achieve in DCC, I'm not sure in DC?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: CarriageShed on January 16, 2014, 01:17:01 PM
I just like the convenience and flexibility of DCC; e.g. one passenger train was timetabled to have a (G)WR pannier and a Bulleid Light Pacific double-heading it, easy to achieve in DCC, I'm not sure in DC?

Easy to achieve in DC too, Chris. You just have to build in this kind of operation when you lay the track, as it means adding some isolators so that the locos can couple up and uncouple. You also need to make sure that the locos are from the same manufacturer. My (ongoing) tests to find combinations for double-heading, pilots and bankers has confirmed that locos from the same manufacturer work well together, mainly because they share a similar point at which they pick up the power and start moving their wheels. Join a Dapol to a Farish and very often you'll have the Dapol spinning its wheels on the spot as it tries to push the Farish along with it - and fails miserably! :D However, join two Farishes together and they start off smoothly in near unison and cooperate beautifully at slow and fast speeds.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 16, 2014, 01:27:26 PM
I just like the convenience and flexibility of DCC; e.g. one passenger train was timetabled to have a (G)WR pannier and a Bulleid Light Pacific double-heading it, easy to achieve in DCC, I'm not sure in DC?

Easy to achieve in DC too, Chris. You just have to build in this kind of operation when you lay the track, as it means adding some isolators so that the locos can couple up and uncouple. You also need to make sure that the locos are from the same manufacturer. My (ongoing) tests to find combinations for double-heading, pilots and bankers has confirmed that locos from the same manufacturer work well together, mainly because they share a similar point at which they pick up the power and start moving their wheels. Join a Dapol to a Farish and very often you'll have the Dapol spinning its wheels on the spot as it tries to push the Farish along with it - and fails miserably! :D However, join two Farishes together and they start off smoothly in near unison and cooperate beautifully at slow and fast speeds.

Thanks for this, Pete, I'm sure this will reassure a lot of people who, for whatever reason, do not want to go down the DCC route. (But with DCC you CAN join a Dapol to a Farish! 8-) )
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: jd on January 16, 2014, 01:28:23 PM
Looking great NPN. Looking forward to you playing trains, I mean test runs lol :claphappy:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 16, 2014, 03:50:12 PM
More work done (and more Fishplate Finger :doh:)
The fiddle yards are now completed.........

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/thumb_9633.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9633)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/thumb_9634.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9634)

Spare pieces of track will be used to store locos for changing motive power to trains :D
The lower main lines have roads to store 4 trains in each direction with 2 of the roads each way being 'split' to hold smaller length trains, whilst the upper branch yard can hold minimum 7 trains.
This just leaves me the branch line 'scenic' side trackage to finish once I have decided how best to locate the proposed cement works :confused2:

All track is just lightly pinned at present as some will require lifting to solder wires to the under side of the tracks for feeds and isolated sections.

The bane of my life today has been the IRJ's that have an extremely annoying habit of not sliding onto the adjoining piece of track correctly (they usually slide underneath ::)) and so if my Mum had heard the language employed I'd have had a thick ear and be sent to bed early with no dinner :-[
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Lawrence on January 16, 2014, 04:02:00 PM
I know you will probably already thought of this Mick, but I assume you are going to put some kind of edging along the left side of the bench (as in your pictures) just in case anything does make a bid for freedom and heads for the floor  :doh:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: davieb on January 16, 2014, 04:02:20 PM
Looking good Mick  :thumbsup:

Just one question  :hmmm:

How on earth do you get fishplate Finger with IRJs  :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: jd on January 16, 2014, 04:18:18 PM
Omg NPN IRJ are more of a pain then the fish plates. I keep getting evils from ourlass while I'm laying track because the room us thick with blue air lol.   :-[
Looking great NPN, like I keep saying to myself the pain of fish plate fingers will be over very soon.  :bounce:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 16, 2014, 04:22:06 PM
I know you will probably already thought of this Mick, but I assume you are going to put some kind of edging along the left side of the bench (as in your pictures) just in case anything does make a bid for freedom and heads for the floor  :doh:

Yup - the unused backscenes (hardboard) from the previous incarnation of Kimbolted will be sliced up to be used as edging for the current boards with an inch or so protrusion above track level.
I should have said that the front viewing area lower level, I will be using some clear Perspex available from the local builders merchants.


How on earth do you get fishplate Finger with IRJs  :D

And you accuse Scotsoft and myself of being fasec facesh pillocks ::)!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: jonclox on January 16, 2014, 04:38:43 PM
Ooops
Just noticed you've missed a fishplate at the far end, in fact right in the middle  ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on January 16, 2014, 04:44:56 PM
Ooops
Just noticed you've missed a fishplate at the far end, in fact right in the middle  ;)

 :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: davieb on January 16, 2014, 04:59:59 PM

And you accuse Scotsoft and myself of being fasec facesh pillocks ::)!

Oi..............I'll have you know I resemble that remark  :smiley-laughing:  :-[

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: baschurch-mike on January 17, 2014, 10:12:35 AM
You mentioned on Yeoveney about mirrors to see the hidden sidings. Well, you could say that if you had a mirror they would not be hidden any more etc. Back in the real world the local Homebase - NOT the Grey Hairs shop - has some tallish mirrors and you could turn that lengthways and mount it angled appropriately. Several might cover the whole length of the sidings.

Hope this helps,

Mike Beard
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: CarriageShed on January 17, 2014, 10:22:02 AM
Or you could go the modern railways route and install CCTV overlooking the fiddle yard and a monitor bank next to your control panel. ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 17, 2014, 10:42:40 AM
local Homebase - NOT the Grey Hairs shop - has some tallish mirrors and you could turn that lengthways and mount it angled appropriately. Several might cover the whole length of the sidings.

Hope this helps,

Mike Beard

Thanks, Mike, but being the clumsy so-and-so I am, I'd end up with 7 years bad luck :-[

Or you could go the modern railways route and install CCTV overlooking the fiddle yard and a monitor bank next to your control panel. ;)

Je suis un Luddite, Pete, so it's just complicating things.
I'm really looking for some reflective material on a roll to 'tack' up on lighting masts so I can K.I.S.S.

Thanks for the suggestions, both :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: baschurch-mike on January 17, 2014, 10:54:08 AM
If you use a reflective material, a reflectiveplastic strip must be available somewhere, it will still need to point down at 45 degrees so it might not just be a case of clamping it to two lighting masts.

Good luck in your quest,

Mike Beard
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 17, 2014, 12:49:18 PM
Thanks, Mike :thumbsup:
The idea was to cant it at an angle on wooden battens.
This might do the trick :hmmm:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mirror-Roll-Adhesive-Length-Horse/dp/B001RUFZ5C/ref=sr_1_1/277-3684046-8490404?ie=UTF8&qid=1389962803&sr=8-1&keywords=mirror+on+a+roll+self+adhesive (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mirror-Roll-Adhesive-Length-Horse/dp/B001RUFZ5C/ref=sr_1_1/277-3684046-8490404?ie=UTF8&qid=1389962803&sr=8-1&keywords=mirror+on+a+roll+self+adhesive)

No horses would be injured in this exercise :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: CarriageShed on January 17, 2014, 01:18:16 PM
Thanks, Mike :thumbsup:
The idea was to cant it at an angle on wooden battens.
This might do the trick :hmmm:

[url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mirror-Roll-Adhesive-Length-Horse/dp/B001RUFZ5C/ref=sr_1_1/277-3684046-8490404?ie=UTF8&qid=1389962803&sr=8-1&keywords=mirror+on+a+roll+self+adhesive[/url] ([url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mirror-Roll-Adhesive-Length-Horse/dp/B001RUFZ5C/ref=sr_1_1/277-3684046-8490404?ie=UTF8&qid=1389962803&sr=8-1&keywords=mirror+on+a+roll+self+adhesive[/url])

No horses would be injured in this exercise :D


Not many good reviews for that product, Mick. And one of them even mentions a horse, so the name must be valid. You might be better off getting a bone fide mirror panel or mirror sheet:

http://www.sheetplastics.co.uk/Acrylic_Mirror/3mm_Sliver_Acrylic_Mirror_Sheet (http://www.sheetplastics.co.uk/Acrylic_Mirror/3mm_Sliver_Acrylic_Mirror_Sheet)

http://www.cutplasticsheeting.co.uk/mirrored-sheeting/acrylic-mirror-sheet.html (http://www.cutplasticsheeting.co.uk/mirrored-sheeting/acrylic-mirror-sheet.html)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 17, 2014, 02:29:27 PM
Hi Pete,

As a retired gentleman (some would dispute the last ::)) I can't afford anything from your links as we are talking minimum £30 :goggleeyes:
I will not need to see details, just to check the correct train is moving so distortion won't be a factor particularly. Magic smoke from locos I can do without :hmmm:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on January 17, 2014, 02:51:00 PM
If there's no need for the  mirror(s)  to be big, how about those replacement wing mirror kits you can get from Halfords n the like?

Stick them up with super double sided tape, perhaps?

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 17, 2014, 02:56:21 PM
It's a possibility, Dave :hmmm:
The fiddle yards are about 5ft in length so maybe one each end might do the job.
Cloughie is very good at headbutting bits off trucks so maybe I should put in a special request :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Avis1434 on January 17, 2014, 09:41:12 PM
Just a thought

Could you not recover a long mirror from an old wardrobe and lay it side on @ 45% +/- to get a clear reflection of about 5/6 ft of the fiddle yard?

I am thinking of a fiddle yard behind my backscene when I start and this was hopefully my answer to the problem

Good luck! I'll watch this thread carefully for any other "cheap" solutions

Cheers

Murray
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: DCCDave on January 17, 2014, 09:43:10 PM
Could you not recover a long mirror from an old wardrobe and lay it side on @ 45% +/- to get a clear reflection of about 5/6 ft of the fiddle yard?

Yep, I've seen that done on a couple of exhibition layouts, and once you get used to it being the wrong way around it works well.

Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Chinahand on January 18, 2014, 10:15:15 AM
I have a similar problem as I will need to see where trains are when parking them into the hidden roads. I found this one http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/78271400/ (http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/78271400/) at Ikea which looks as though it would suit my needs but the price of a similarly sized acrylic mirror is not much different.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Avis1434 on January 18, 2014, 12:17:04 PM
Thanks Trevor

Looks just the job and complete with fittings and safety cover all for £16!! :thumbsup:

Cheers

Murray
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 18, 2014, 04:21:57 PM
I've bust a gut to get the branch line oval working - purely so I can run in the new Fairburn when it comes, you understand :angel:
Now it seems the weathered version has not arrived with the other 3 :'(
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on February 18, 2014, 04:29:04 PM
There has been talk in another thread (or two) about superelevation of curves so I have a question please. I have 2 x 90 degree curves at each end of my lower main line but there are points involved so I'm not sure whether attempting it would just give me more grief than it's worth :worried: :hmmm:
The left hand side........
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/50/thumb_10310.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=10310)

The right hand side.......
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/50/thumb_10311.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=10311)

Ignore the controller on the track - this is just to allow me to play test trains on the upper branch level which is all I have powered at present :angel: :D

It would be nice to have trains leaning into the curves, but not if it means instant derailing at the points :no:
Has anyone successfully managed this scenario please?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: ParkeNd on February 19, 2014, 12:35:04 AM
Don't know the answer to the "leaning" question but the curves in the track and those scissor switches are so organic to look at. The black rubber look adds to the air of sophistication. Bit like a Linn Ekos arm on virgin vinyl. Ballasting it will be a crime.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on February 19, 2014, 01:25:00 AM
Yeah.... the Americans are right into superelevation and I must admit it does make the trains look good, and not that difficult to achieve. However, I too am not really keen on the idea of doing it to pointwork. 'Tis my humble opinion that those large radius curved points you've got there look nice enough as they are.

Trouble-free running is the order of the day, methinks.

By the way, I think the CCTV is a good idea... the thought of looking up and possibly seeing me own reflection scares the you-know-what out of me  ;D

George
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Maurits71 on February 19, 2014, 07:26:49 AM
me ;)

a 1 mm wire is enough for your elevation and I am facing no issues as long as you work tide and test it for days.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on February 19, 2014, 07:29:02 AM
Found this rather old American item. It does say not to put SE under points - see item 3.

Hope some of it is useful:  http://rgwrail.com/SuperElev.pdf (http://rgwrail.com/SuperElev.pdf)

Dave G

Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on February 19, 2014, 11:19:29 AM
Found this rather old American item. It does say not to put SE under points - see item 3.

Dave G


Thanks, Dave. It bears out what I was thinking :hmmm:

Don't know the answer to the "leaning" question but the curves in the track and those scissor switches are so organic to look at.

Thanks, Chris. The crossover is made from 2 curved and 1 straight point so as to create a passing freight loop. As the curved points are of the same geometry the curved tracks are a little 'forced radii' but I know it works and looks great when a freight train stops in the centre line to allow expresses to pass :)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on February 27, 2014, 10:02:02 AM
Before I power up the lower main lines and play test trains out, no doubt you have noticed the tracks are perilously close to the edge of the baseboards. The fiddle yard was sorted by the simple expedient of screwing a hardboard edging to the rear........

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/albums/Kimbolted/Dir_1/medium_10554.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=10554)

I had some what the builders merchant euphemistically called Perspex but in fact is more like a cheapo clear plastic about 1½mm thick. It comes in a 60cm x 60cm square for about a fiver and is not very clever to work with, as you have to score repeatedly with a sharp blade and then snap the plastic in the hope it doesn't shatter. (Larger sheets are available but I can't get 'em in my Fiesta) Somewhere in this, someone squirted some red liquid onto the plastic :worried: It could have been me, I suppose, but I am generally very careful around sharp blades so can only assume the edge of the plastic drew blood :doh:
Knowing the plastic is a real bugger to drill I decided to cut slots in it and then snap the tabs off. Inevitably this didn't go entirely to plan, but the end result will do the trick. After all, I'm not exhibiting the layout - it's there purely to avoid trains plummeting to a tiled floor in the event of a derailment. See what you think...........

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/albums/Kimbolted/Dir_1/medium_10556.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=10556)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/albums/Kimbolted/Dir_1/medium_10555.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=10555)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on February 27, 2014, 10:32:37 AM
Having had several prized engines hitting the floor over the years, it looks good to me!

G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Lawrence on February 27, 2014, 10:33:38 AM
Spot on mate  :thumbsup: you can take some fine wet & dry to the edges to smooth them off if needs be.  Just wrap it round a small piece of wood or similar to keep the wet & dry flat, or use a fine sanding block  ;) will reduce the need for first aid  :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on February 27, 2014, 10:51:00 AM
Yep, that stuff can be sharp and inflict nasty injuries. A workmate of mine nearly lost his hand cuttin' the stufff.

And I certainly agree with rounding the edges, because of comment above!

George
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Caz on February 27, 2014, 11:11:08 AM
It's really starting to look something, mind you, some would say about time, less of this testing playing  trains and some more building please as this looks like it has great potential.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on February 27, 2014, 11:13:28 AM
Looks good Mick, and it means you can get close and personal with the kettles without the risk of taking a hit in the nose  :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on February 27, 2014, 01:18:01 PM
The slots are a good idea rather than holes as they will allow easy removal when you start to cultivate the scenery  :D

cheers John.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on February 27, 2014, 02:19:02 PM
Good to hear your getting close to 'testing' the track properly.

The clear plastic is a neat idea, Mick.

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: CarriageShed on February 27, 2014, 03:55:48 PM
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/albums/Kimbolted/Dir_1/medium_10555.JPG[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=10555[/url])


That actually looks very professional, Mick- erm, I mean of course it looks great. Nice work ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: davieb on February 27, 2014, 03:58:10 PM
Looking great there Mick  :thumbsup:

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 27, 2014, 05:16:17 PM
Looks fine to me; the key thing is, as you write, to stop expensive model trains plunging off the edge!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scottmitchell74 on February 27, 2014, 05:44:00 PM
Great idea. Will have to remember for future reference.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on March 07, 2014, 05:06:18 PM
On this revamped version of Kimbolted I have taken extra care with rail joints and thought it was time I tested the lower main lines so, having jury rigged some power to the Up line, I was extremely please with the running of all I placed on the layout, albeit I discovered one rail joiner not fitted correctly which caused a 'lump' - subsequently fixed :)
These short vids are QuickTime so I hope they play OK
First up was a class 25:-

[IMG] (http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/Class25_zps13fee8be.mp4)

Tried to take an arty-farty one of the A4 but the Perspex gave too much reflection :doh:

[IMG] (http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/A4WildSwan_zpsca9f51b8.mp4)

and one for George :thumbsup:

[IMG] (http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/BluePullman_zpsfde80627.mp4)

I need to straighten up the running lines with either a ruler or my straight tracksetta :-[

Next will be some serious playingtesting of the Down line as, being inside the Up, the curves are a slightly smaller radius. I'm using my Dapol A4 for this on the basis it is most susceptible to poor joints and tight curves although I reckon they still pan out at around 12" having checked with a 12" tracksetta :hmmm:




Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: CarriageShed on March 07, 2014, 05:39:30 PM
That's looking really good, Mick. The first one especially gives a great impression of layout's length. Once all the scenic stuff is down it should be a corker of a layout.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on March 07, 2014, 08:02:27 PM
Well done Mick.

Really like the perspex viewing/safety wall.

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Maurits71 on March 08, 2014, 08:02:00 AM
Nice Mick, always a relief when everything works
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: MinZaPint on March 08, 2014, 02:12:32 PM
Hi Mick

Coming along very nicely, pleased to see you getting time to get on with your own projects instead of keeping an eye on the rest of us  :thumbsup:

Cheers David
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on March 08, 2014, 05:01:00 PM
Down line now tested with the Dapol A4 and all is well :claphappy:
Some minor tweaking of the trackwork in the fiddle yard and I can get to grips with soldering droppers where I have jury rigged some soldered fishplates.
Once that's done I can run a train in each direction on the 'mains' while I get to grips with the conundrum of the upper level branch line - see.........

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=20049.15 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=20049.15)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Caz on March 08, 2014, 06:50:58 PM
Exciting times in the NN household, really pleased that you are finally getting somewhere and can start to enjoy the fruits of your labours.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: UPINSMOKE on August 24, 2014, 12:27:07 AM
Glad I have found this thread. Has given me a few Idea's for my tiny layout :thankyousign: :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: smileyjon on August 24, 2014, 03:37:27 AM
Ha . . .  so you're getting there  :claphappy:

Well done  :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on August 24, 2014, 10:06:08 AM
Ha . . .  so you're getting there  :claphappy:

Well done  :D

Progress came to a halt some time back, Jon, as I'm concentrating on a new small end to end layout 'Bletchford', the object being to practice various scenic and other methods before transferring those that work to 'Kimbolted' ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: smileyjon on August 24, 2014, 01:44:01 PM
Ah yes.   Belchford.  My mind is slowly going I think.  (read as GONE)

Later Nobby  :wave:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Sprintex on August 24, 2014, 08:05:25 PM
Belchford.

:laugh:


Paul
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: georgehgv on February 28, 2015, 10:38:33 PM
Belchford.

:laugh:


Paul

 :smiley-laughing:


NN  are you still progressing Kimbolted or has Kim bolted and left you locked inside?  :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on March 01, 2015, 02:43:05 AM
At least this flurry of activity has cut down the lame jokes (well, a little bit )  :uneasy:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on March 01, 2015, 09:27:33 AM


NN  are you still progressing Kimbolted or has Kim bolted and left you locked inside?  :D

Hi George,
All progress on Kimbolted ceased while I build the experimental layout 'Bletchford'.
I say experimental in that I'm trying out all sorts of modelling methods and will transfer only the best/successful ones to Kimbolted. Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Railwaygun on April 29, 2015, 11:45:03 AM
Could you not recover a long mirror from an old wardrobe and lay it side on @ 45% +/- to get a clear reflection of about 5/6 ft of the fiddle yard?

Yep, I've seen that done on a couple of exhibition layouts, and once you get used to it being the wrong way around it works well.

Cheers
Dave

Mirror tiles are a good alternative  - stick them up with stick pads to a bit of supporting wood

Nicholas Robinson
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: georgehgv on April 29, 2015, 06:22:22 PM
Could you not recover a long mirror from an old wardrobe and lay it side on @ 45% +/- to get a clear reflection of about 5/6 ft of the fiddle yard?

Yep, I've seen that done on a couple of exhibition layouts, and once you get used to it being the wrong way around it works well.

Cheers
Dave

Mirror tiles are a good alternative  - stick them up with stick pads to a bit of supporting wood

Nicholas Robinson

I am thinking of using a web cam or similar for view of fiddle yard under the main layout.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on April 29, 2015, 07:06:19 PM

I am thinking of using a web cam or similar for view of fiddle yard under the main layout.


You could use one of those small LCD screens they sell on eBay as a monitor  :thumbsup:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-5-LCD-Color-Screen-Monitor-For-Car-Rear-Reverse-Rearview-Backup-Camera-DVD-/111116879436?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19df15064c (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-5-LCD-Color-Screen-Monitor-For-Car-Rear-Reverse-Rearview-Backup-Camera-DVD-/111116879436?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19df15064c)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PAL-NTSC-4-3-LCD-TFT-Rearview-Monitor-Screen-F-Car-Backup-Camera-4-3-16-9-/201253668784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2edba747b0 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PAL-NTSC-4-3-LCD-TFT-Rearview-Monitor-Screen-F-Car-Backup-Camera-4-3-16-9-/201253668784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2edba747b0)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on April 29, 2015, 08:25:26 PM
Thanks for the ideas, chaps, but maybe this needs a separate thread as not everyone is interested in what I'm up to layout wise so could be missing out on good advice yet may have ideas themselves :hmmm:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: GeeBee on April 29, 2015, 08:54:54 PM
Thanks for the ideas, chaps, but maybe this needs a separate thread as not everyone is interested in what I'm up to layout wise so could be missing out on good advice yet may have ideas themselves :hmmm:

Mick Just a thought before they move it you could use a webcam and notebook to monitor your sidings
Graham
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: georgehgv on April 29, 2015, 09:02:09 PM

I am thinking of using a web cam or similar for view of fiddle yard under the main layout.


You could use one of those small LCD screens they sell on eBay as a monitor  :thumbsup:


[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-5-LCD-Color-Screen-Monitor-For-Car-Rear-Reverse-Rearview-Backup-Camera-DVD-/111116879436?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19df15064c[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-5-LCD-Color-Screen-Monitor-For-Car-Rear-Reverse-Rearview-Backup-Camera-DVD-/111116879436?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19df15064c[/url])

[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PAL-NTSC-4-3-LCD-TFT-Rearview-Monitor-Screen-F-Car-Backup-Camera-4-3-16-9-/201253668784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2edba747b0[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PAL-NTSC-4-3-LCD-TFT-Rearview-Monitor-Screen-F-Car-Backup-Camera-4-3-16-9-/201253668784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2edba747b0[/url])

cheers John.


Thats the sort of thing John, thanks.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 20, 2015, 05:11:03 PM
Spring has been declared by Nobby so the doors to the mancave were opened to see what needed doing. Sadly, due to last years hip operation and ongoing breathing issues since last December, yours truly has piled a bit of timber on and can no longer squeeze past the layout to get to the fiddle yard at the rear. :-[  As such, I have moved  ‘Kimbolted’  from the diagonal to straight across the conservatory as, given the new hip, I feel it easier now to get underneath the layout to access the rear.
Those pesky earwigs who seem to just come inside to die and thus lie on their backs with legs skywards (thank Gawd they don't climb) have been vacuumed up, and the track has been given a good clean (well, those bits required for roundy roundy running on both levels).
So, purely for testing purposes you understand, I set a Farish Western running on the main ‘Up’ line and a Warship running on the bi-directional branch. My concentration (such as it is for a professional ‘faffer’) is still firmly fixed on the smaller layout ‘Bletchford’.




 (http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/Kimbolted%20in%20mancave_zpscf4qe7wv.mp4)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on May 20, 2015, 10:29:18 PM
Is there supposed to be a photo or video here, Mick? Cos all I've got is a blank screen  :worried:

George
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on May 20, 2015, 10:42:42 PM
I think it's a picture of a polar bear on an ice floe in a snow storm. Or possibly a Klu Klux Clan member on a snowy field.....
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on May 20, 2015, 11:20:07 PM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 21, 2015, 03:41:57 AM
Dunno what's going on as the photobucket vid was there yesterday ???
I'll try to fix it tom later today :doh:

Erm - it's re-appeared
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on May 21, 2015, 03:59:00 AM
Not here, it ain't, buddy  :confused2:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 21, 2015, 04:02:25 AM
Sorry, George.
I'd attach it to this post as a file but that option doesn't work ::)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on May 21, 2015, 06:47:13 AM
Vid working fine on Chrome this end of the world.  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Vonk on May 21, 2015, 09:33:57 AM
All appears ok here
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on May 21, 2015, 09:41:13 AM
I'm not getting anything I can even click on to select chrome. Kangaroos and possums nibbling at me comm lines, no doubt  :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 21, 2015, 09:58:30 AM
Shame, George, as there's so much great footage of the Blue Pullman :-X :no:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on May 21, 2015, 10:05:58 AM
Arghh! What with that and possums nibblin' no wonder I've got a high voice  :uneasy:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on May 21, 2015, 10:07:11 AM
No show of Safari on my iPad, but appears in Firefox. Curious.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on May 21, 2015, 10:17:13 AM
Wot, no possums?  :uneasy:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bob Tidbury on May 21, 2015, 12:04:08 PM
Nothing on my IPad either .
Bob
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Sprintex on May 21, 2015, 01:11:35 PM
Works fine on the laptop, doesn't appear on the phone. Suggests that some mobile devices may not have the necessary Flash player ;)


Paul
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on May 21, 2015, 03:00:29 PM
As I said before, it works on an iPad, as long as you use Firefox, not the default Safari, so is probably something to do with flash players as Paul suggests.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on May 22, 2015, 01:33:14 AM
I'm on my laptop now running Firefox and still no joy. I WANNA SEE THE BP!!  :'(
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: railsquid on May 22, 2015, 01:59:49 AM
Works on Safari (OS X) but not SeaMonkey (Firefox derivative)... However it does on the Photobucket site (http://s1086.photobucket.com/user/nobbynewport/media/Kimbolted/Kimbolted%20in%20mancave_zpscf4qe7wv.mp4.html).
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on May 22, 2015, 02:47:53 AM
Thanks, Squiddy... I got to see something, but it wasn't really working there either... jumping all over the place.

Mick's jiving us anyway - I couldn't see any BP!  >:D

George
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Pengi on May 22, 2015, 08:58:12 AM
Vid works fine on my Macbook with Safari

Definitely want to see more of this layout   :claphappy: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on May 22, 2015, 12:25:09 PM

Mick's jiving us anyway - I couldn't see any BP!  >:D

George

Not "us", just you  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 22, 2015, 12:28:01 PM

Mick's jiving us anyway - I couldn't see any BP!  >:D

George

Not "us", just you  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

Moi? :angel: :-X
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on May 22, 2015, 12:31:12 PM
Hey John it's been a weird day here.,

I've signed up for 5 weeks work and played guitar on stage!

Dunno forthe life of me why
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on May 22, 2015, 03:33:49 PM
Hey John it's been a weird day here.,

I've signed up for 5 weeks work and played guitar on stage!

Dunno forthe life of me why

Could you play the guitar before, George?  :D

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Mito on May 22, 2015, 09:32:07 PM
Works on Safari (OS X) but not SeaMonkey (Firefox derivative)... However it does on the Photobucket site ([url]http://s1086.photobucket.com/user/nobbynewport/media/Kimbolted/Kimbolted%20in%20mancave_zpscf4qe7wv.mp4.html[/url]).


Doesn't work for me anywhere. :(
The thumbnails come up on Photobucket and that's it. Nada de nada.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 11, 2015, 04:21:14 PM
Another track cleaning sesh meant, of course, playtest time again :D
Forgive the rolling stock as it's all I had to hand, but at least the motive power should please hydraulic fans. My class 22 seems to be whining again  :hmmm:(my weathered one doesn't)........

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eue4hbjsyf252ex/Running%20session%2011.6.15.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/eue4hbjsyf252ex/Running%20session%2011.6.15.MOV?dl=0)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on June 11, 2015, 05:20:33 PM
Nice curves!  :-[

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on June 11, 2015, 05:47:05 PM
Nice one Mick.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on June 11, 2015, 06:30:44 PM
I do like the sound your trains are making as they run round, a nice deep rumble  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 11, 2015, 07:41:10 PM
Nice curves!  :-[

Dave G

Though not as nice as Liz Hurley's :drool:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 11, 2015, 07:42:08 PM
I do like the sound your trains are making as they run round, a nice deep rumble  :thumbsup:

Thanks, John, but that was my stomach as teatime was imminent :-[
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Caz on June 11, 2015, 08:07:40 PM
Excuse me, but where are the kettles or have we forsaken them!   ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Maurits71 on June 11, 2015, 10:15:17 PM
getting mister.  ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: georgehgv on June 11, 2015, 10:33:38 PM
Excuse me, but where are the kettles or have we forsaken them!   ;)

On the boil in kitchen

Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 12, 2015, 01:11:50 PM
Excuse me, but where are the kettles or have we forsaken them!   ;)

Just for you, Caz.
Weathered J39 on branch suburban, weathered B1 on 'down' coal empties and green 5MT on 'up' cross country passenger service :-*

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkqf17oej2b9zdv/Steam%20running%20sesh%2012.6.15.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkqf17oej2b9zdv/Steam%20running%20sesh%2012.6.15.MOV?dl=0)

As an aside to this, if anyone (like me) is brassed off with Photobucket I'd recommend Dropbox.
Usual caveat - recommend you don't put any really personal stuff in :uneasy:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on June 12, 2015, 08:53:05 PM
Another nice one Mick.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: mk1gtstu on June 12, 2015, 08:56:33 PM
Very nice  :thumbsup:

Those minerals look familiar  ;)

cheers, Stu
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 12, 2015, 09:10:29 PM
Very nice  :thumbsup:

Those minerals look familiar  ;)

cheers, Stu

All myyour own great work, Stu :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on June 13, 2015, 01:48:23 AM
 :toot:

Go kettles!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 25, 2015, 04:30:03 PM
Nobby releases his version of 'Twin Peaks' :D

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h8opprv83sgb0el/Twin%20Peaks.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/h8opprv83sgb0el/Twin%20Peaks.MOV?dl=0)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: CarriageShed on June 25, 2015, 04:47:01 PM
It took me about fifteen seconds before I got that. Well done  :D  It's about time we got a better look at your layout.

Was that a rake of Farish suburban carriages I saw? You should think about upgrading them  ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on June 25, 2015, 05:50:41 PM
Nobby releases his version of 'Twin Peaks' :D

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h8opprv83sgb0el/Twin%20Peaks.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/h8opprv83sgb0el/Twin%20Peaks.MOV?dl=0)

Back to the silent era of film making again  :D

cheers John.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on June 25, 2015, 06:59:03 PM
Nobby releases his version of 'Twin Peaks' :D

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h8opprv83sgb0el/Twin%20Peaks.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/h8opprv83sgb0el/Twin%20Peaks.MOV?dl=0)

Back to the silent era of film making again  :D

cheers John.

Perhaps so but the hand-tinting is brilliant!  ;)  :camera:

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 25, 2015, 08:54:41 PM
Nobby releases his version of 'Twin Peaks' :D

[url]https://www.dropbox.com/s/h8opprv83sgb0el/Twin%20Peaks.MOV?dl=0[/url] ([url]https://www.dropbox.com/s/h8opprv83sgb0el/Twin%20Peaks.MOV?dl=0[/url])


Back to the silent era of film making again  :D

cheers John.


Perhaps so but the hand-tinting is brilliant!  ;)  :camera:

Dave G


You mean they've invented 'talkies'? ???

@Pete33 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2505)

Was that a rake of Farish suburban carriages I saw? You should think about upgrading them  ;)


I managed to get a rake of 4 in green, Pete. Total cost £14. I've updated them with newer Farish wheels but would be happy to hear what else I can do to improve them. Thank you.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: CarriageShed on June 25, 2015, 10:10:35 PM
I managed to get a rake of 4 in green, Pete. Total cost £14. I've updated them with newer Farish wheels but would be happy to hear what else I can do to improve them. Thank you.

£14 is a fantastic price for four of them! Even £24 would have been pretty good. I can only really use the lined versions myself, as the unlined ones didn't start appearing until the early thirties.

What else you can do to improve them depends on how much you want to do. Probably the most obvious change would be to get Etched Pixels' 3D printed roofs, and a line of torpedo vents - although what I've done is specifically LSWR, other companies had different roof styles and vents. Which pre-SR company built your coaches?



Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 25, 2015, 10:23:55 PM
Thanks for that, Pete.


 Which pre-SR company built your coaches?


Ask me one on knitting, Pete :dunce:

'Kimbolted' is based around the Oxford area and I thought these green suburbans would make a good 'workers' train for those travelling to work at the Cowley motor plant. I know half of naff all about coaching stock even for my steam/early diesel era apart from the liveries maybe. I suspect these green suburbans have been hand painted as there is a lot of 'slosh' over the black end of one of them which I can easily remedy but, as to your question, I don't have a scooby-doo :no:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: CarriageShed on June 25, 2015, 10:40:13 PM
Ask me one on knitting, Pete :dunce:

'Kimbolted' is based around the Oxford area and I thought these green suburbans would make a good 'workers' train for those travelling to work at the Cowley motor plant. I know half of naff all about coaching stock even for my steam/early diesel era apart from the liveries maybe. I suspect these green suburbans have been hand painted as there is a lot of 'slosh' over the black end of one of them which I can easily remedy but, as to your question, I don't have a scooby-doo :no:

You do know that the SR ran a green-coach service into Oxford, don't you? Failing that, I'd say you need to repaint them for a local service - BR maroon, perhaps?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 26, 2015, 09:34:53 AM
It's good to know my memory hasn't totally failed me in that the green ones were seen at Oxford but I'm still not sure I understood your last question, Pete - "Which pre-SR company built the coaches?"
I have some Farish maroon suburbans, too.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: CarriageShed on June 26, 2015, 09:49:56 AM
...I'm still not sure I understood your last question, Pete - "Which pre-SR company built the coaches?"
I have some Farish maroon suburbans, too.

Well, most of these old suburban-type coaches were built prior to the Grouping, so the Southern Railway ones would have been built by the LSWR, LB&SCR, LCDR, or SER. They all had their own design styles so there will be noticeable differences in the details.

I don't know how suitable maroon suburbans would be in Oxford. There was an LNWR terminus there, so you could use them in conjunction with that I guess.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: GeeBee on June 29, 2015, 03:29:48 PM
Another track cleaning sesh meant, of course, playtest time again :D
Forgive the rolling stock as it's all I had to hand, but at least the motive power should please hydraulic fans. My class 22 seems to be whining again  :hmmm:(my weathered one doesn't)........

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eue4hbjsyf252ex/Running%20session%2011.6.15.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/eue4hbjsyf252ex/Running%20session%2011.6.15.MOV?dl=0)


Hi, Mick nice to see but if that is your rolling stock just used for test I would love to see your main stock boxes
Graham   :bounce:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 29, 2015, 04:18:08 PM
Another track cleaning sesh meant, of course, playtest time again :D
Forgive the rolling stock as it's all I had to hand, but at least the motive power should please hydraulic fans. My class 22 seems to be whining again  :hmmm:(my weathered one doesn't)........

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eue4hbjsyf252ex/Running%20session%2011.6.15.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/eue4hbjsyf252ex/Running%20session%2011.6.15.MOV?dl=0)


Hi, Mick nice to see but if that is your rolling stock just used for test I would love to see your main stock boxes
Graham   :bounce:

Thanks Graham.
If you are aware of those collapsible plastic crates you can get for about £2.50 - £3.00 I have 2 full of coaching stock and one full of wagons. I just keep minimum stock on the layouts for my 'playing trains' fix every now and then :angel:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: port perran on June 29, 2015, 07:25:21 PM
Another track cleaning sesh meant, of course, playtest time again :D
Forgive the rolling stock as it's all I had to hand, but at least the motive power should please hydraulic fans. My class 22 seems to be whining again  :hmmm:(my weathered one doesn't)........

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eue4hbjsyf252ex/Running%20session%2011.6.15.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/eue4hbjsyf252ex/Running%20session%2011.6.15.MOV?dl=0)


Hi, Mick nice to see but if that is your rolling stock just used for test I would love to see your main stock boxes
Graham   :bounce:

Thanks Graham.
If you are aware of those collapsible plastic crates you can get for about £2.50 - £3.00 I have 2 full of coaching stock and one full of wagons. I just keep minimum stock on the layouts for my 'playing trains' fix every now and then :angel:
Very sensible. I seem to keep too much stock in my fiddle yard. Probably a good idea to pack some of it away.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 29, 2015, 10:19:47 PM
I think there might be quite a few for sale at our meet up in October :hmmm:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on August 11, 2015, 03:34:19 PM
Not so much an update as a précis of the layout so far...........
(a) the layout is 8ft x 4ft and stands 44in high on a purpose built framing
(b) 9mm sundeala has been used for the surface and this is covered beneath tracks/buildings with 1½mm commercial grade black rubber
(c) twin mainline lower level ovals with a passing siding at the front and 2 x 4 road fiddle yards at the rear. Upper level carries a bi directional branch line with small station with bay platform. This is also where the goods yard, loco shed and industries will be. A low relief street scene will run along the back of this and, behind what will be the backscene, the branch line has a 7 road fiddle yard
(d) the location is fictitious but based very near to Oxford so I can legitimately run WR, SR, ER and LM region due to the Varsity line between Oxford and Cambridge being open then.
(e) I can run either late steam or green/maroon diesels or a combination of such (am also seeking Desert Sand and Golden Ochre when available)
(f) the layout is strictly DC controlled using a Morley Vortrack controller with 2 x handhelds.
(g) all track is Peco code 55 finescale using large points at the front lower mainlines and small points everywhere else (all electrofrog). Curve radius on the mainlines is 12" and, although the upper branch line has 9" curves these are made from flexitrack so as to have no joins in curves.

Like all my projects this is a very slow burner so progress is glacial but I at least have 3 ovals to use for running new locos in and, as you will see from the attached video link, (1) I enjoy playing trains and (2) this video will give any reader a much better idea of the set up......

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6z3ie0a716npy1r/Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/6z3ie0a716npy1r/Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0)

(I've just noticed my lovely cat, Hooky, appears at the end ;D)

I'm happy to answer any questions (apart from "When are you going to get on with it?" :-[)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on August 11, 2015, 03:56:02 PM
Have you arranged for Wickes to deliver your ballast yet? A few weeks work there, Mick. I don't envy you.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on August 11, 2015, 04:08:29 PM
Nice one, Mick!

You are lucky being able to walk all the way around and so have that extra width for nice easy curves.

I'm stretching everything with 36"deep boards but will have a box to stand on to reach the back as well as subterranean access.

Malc is right about the ballasting. It'll keep you out of the pub for a fair old while!

Hooky duly noted.

Dave G


Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on August 11, 2015, 09:21:59 PM
I can't walk all the way round, Dave :'(. That vid was shot by me opening the conservatory doors and standing outside. If I need to get to the rear of the layout I have to duck under (which isn't actually all that difficult as the layout is quite high off the floor) so some form of fiddle yard automation with some mirrors will be implemented at some time.

The ballasting won't be too bad a job as, of course, I won't be doing the fiddle yards so only the front half of the layout will require any. I don't frequent pubs which means I can save what would be beer money and spend it on my N gauge addiction instead :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: georgehgv on August 11, 2015, 09:33:49 PM
I keep learning more and more about you Mick, not only do you do transititions, but are also a limbo dancing rubber fetish.  :sorrysign:

Seriously that sounds like a great layout in the making, Wickes delivery should help with the progress.

I must post another photo of Desert Sand Western to remind you what you are seeking. :P
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on August 11, 2015, 09:41:33 PM
not only do you do transitions

Knife No.1 - didn't hurt too much.

but are also a limbo dancing rubber fetish. 

Knife No.2 -  :ouch:


I must post another photo of Desert Sand Western to remind you what you are seeking. :P


Knife No.3 - Triple  :ouch:

Infamy. Infamy. George has got it in for me :laugh:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: georgehgv on August 11, 2015, 10:04:21 PM
not only do you do transitions

Knife No.1 - didn't hurt too much.

but are also a limbo dancing rubber fetish. 

Knife No.2 -  :ouch:


I must post another photo of Desert Sand Western to remind you what you are seeking. :P


Knife No.3 - Triple  :ouch:

Infamy. Infamy. George has got it in for me :laugh:

Only joking Mick, you know how much I like you.

 :heart2:  can you forgive me please?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on August 11, 2015, 10:12:01 PM

Only joking Mick, you know how much I like you.

 :heart2:  can you forgive me please?

I'm a forgiving old Hector..........providing you don't mention Desert Sand again until Osborns get their next run of Westerns from Dapol and I have one in my mitts :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: georgehgv on August 11, 2015, 10:28:15 PM

Only joking Mick, you know how much I like you.

 :heart2:  can you forgive me please?

I'm a forgiving old Hector..........providing you don't mention Desert Sand again until Osborns get their next run of Westerns from Dapol and I have one in my mitts :D
Thanks Hector.
Are Osbournes doing another
. I happened upon mine at Tings 2 years ago, not going to say that word though and will it be at this years Tings?.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2015, 11:35:57 AM
If you telephone Osborns they are collecting names for when Dapol do another run as it's only then the run of the DS words can be made, George.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: MinZaPint on August 12, 2015, 11:37:03 AM
Very nice little vid Mick

I don't frequent pubs which means I can save what would be beer money and spend it on my N gauge addiction instead :D

Now I know why I'm not making any progress!  :smiley-laughing: Well it's Woodpecker Wednesday  :beers: so that's more N gauge money gone, mind you if Joe Coral is feeling generous our football bet might come up (3 of us £2 each)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 16, 2015, 10:07:40 PM
If you telephone Osborns they are collecting names for when Dapol do another run as it's only then the run of the DS words can be made, George.

I would be VERY tempted to buy one, then!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Milton Rail on January 08, 2016, 01:44:54 PM
Not so much an update as a précis of the layout so far...........
(a) the layout is 8ft x 4ft and stands 44in high on a purpose built framing
(b) 9mm sundeala has been used for the surface and this is covered beneath tracks/buildings with 1½mm commercial grade black rubber
(c) twin mainline lower level ovals with a passing siding at the front and 2 x 4 road fiddle yards at the rear. Upper level carries a bi directional branch line with small station with bay platform. This is also where the goods yard, loco shed and industries will be. A low relief street scene will run along the back of this and, behind what will be the backscene, the branch line has a 7 road fiddle yard
(d) the location is fictitious but based very near to Oxford so I can legitimately run WR, SR, ER and LM region due to the Varsity line between Oxford and Cambridge being open then.
(e) I can run either late steam or green/maroon diesels or a combination of such (am also seeking Desert Sand and Golden Ochre when available)
(f) the layout is strictly DC controlled using a Morley Vortrack controller with 2 x handhelds.
(g) all track is Peco code 55 finescale using large points at the front lower mainlines and small points everywhere else (all electrofrog). Curve radius on the mainlines is 12" and, although the upper branch line has 9" curves these are made from flexitrack so as to have no joins in curves.

Like all my projects this is a very slow burner so progress is glacial but I at least have 3 ovals to use for running new locos in and, as you will see from the attached video link, (1) I enjoy playing trains and (2) this video will give any reader a much better idea of the set up......

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6z3ie0a716npy1r/Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/6z3ie0a716npy1r/Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0)

(I've just noticed my lovely cat, Hooky, appears at the end ;D)

I'm happy to answer any questions (apart from "When are you going to get on with it?" :-[)

Jumping back a bit here as I am slowly catching up with everyone's posts - unfortunately I can't get the video while I am at work - but I was intrigued by the track bed you are using - I was planning to use Sundeala board and then a cork rail bed, but am interested to know how that would compare with the rubber track bed you have opted for - is it cost or better performance?

Cheers,
Andrew
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: georgehgv on January 08, 2016, 06:59:14 PM
So glad this thread has popped up again.

Desert Sand !  :claphappy:  never did get a reply from Osbornes so no idea if another is on the way.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 08, 2016, 09:42:09 PM
@Milton Rail (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4934)
Andrew - I have used nothing else but 9mm Sundeala since I started in N some 30+ years ago and, providing it is conditioned as per the manufacturers instructions, it has not warped given my normal 2" x 1" framing. I opted to use rubber underlay on 'Kimbolted' whereas I've previously used cork and, of course, this has generated much ribbing (I think I should have phrased that somewhat differently :doh:). :-[
I've found, however, it does have better sound deadening characteristics than cork and loose ballasting of the track seems to go better as obviously the rubber does not absorb the PVA/water mix so it sits in the ballast more. The cost of rubber v cork works out slightly more expensive than the cork. I'm happy to answer any further questions you may have.

So glad this thread has popped up again.

Desert Sand !  :claphappy:  never did get a reply from Osbornes so no idea if another is on the way.


@georgehgv (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2383)
The last response I had from Osbornes is they have to wait until Dapol do another run of Westerns at the plant so they cannot give a firm date. Given the likes of Kernow have been flogging off Westerns cheaply along with some other shops this does not bode well for a near future run :hmmm: 
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Marcus Amison on March 25, 2016, 10:48:35 AM
Just gone back 4 pages, no new pictures.......come on!😀😀
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on March 25, 2016, 11:39:56 AM
Sorry, Marcus, but nothing has been done for a year as I've been sorting out an illness which resulted in major surgery. The way my hands shake at present I'm not even sure if I'll ever get the layout done as I'm just not up to soldering anything :worried:
Time will tell - but thanks for asking for more pics.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Marcus Amison on March 25, 2016, 01:52:46 PM
Sorry, Marcus, but nothing has been done for a year as I've been sorting out an illness which resulted in major surgery. The way my hands shake at present I'm not even sure if I'll ever get the layout done as I'm just not up to soldering anything :worried:
Time will tell - but thanks for asking for more pics.
Sorry to hear that. I'm sure things will get better over time and you'll be back to Kimbolted before you know it. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 25, 2016, 07:35:25 PM
Very sorry to read about your health problems, Nobby. I do hope that you will be able to continue with your layout; maybe with outside help?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: GeeBee on March 26, 2016, 12:10:07 AM
So sorry to hear you can,t yet solder I just hope that your hands will settle once the meds take full control
Best wishes
Graham
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on April 09, 2016, 07:11:20 PM
Sorry if you were expecting an update but this was just Nobby playing with a totally unprototypical train

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zol3dmmp2kr17j/Mail%20Train%20002.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zol3dmmp2kr17j/Mail%20Train%20002.MOV?dl=0)

 :sorrysign:

As an aside to this, I bought these coaches when they first came out and was a bit shocked then at the price which was around the £21 mark. The current incarnation (with no side lights) is now £33.96 at my favourite emporium (same price as the new Auto Trailer) :goggleeyes: :o
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: port perran on April 09, 2016, 07:32:48 PM
Looks like good fun to me Mick
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 09, 2016, 07:42:09 PM
In Marketing, that is known as a Less For More strategy which is NOT recommended, Nobby.

Gulp, £33.96 for the new BR Auto Trailer and I wanted two . . .
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: GeeBee on April 10, 2016, 11:37:37 AM
Very nice Mick can we see some more of Kimbolted please
Graham
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 10, 2016, 11:42:06 AM
Is that the new tooling "Pinza" Nobby?

Been on my list for a while and I saw one for less than £90.00 yesterday.

Looks a nice model, happy with it?

Skyline2uk

Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on April 10, 2016, 12:00:57 PM
Is that the new tooling "Pinza" Nobby?

Been on my list for a while and I saw one for less than £90.00 yesterday.

Looks a nice model, happy with it?

Skyline2uk


It is indeed 'Pinza', and I'm well happy with it.
A quick read of the reviews will probably make your decision for you.
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=20909.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=20909.0)

That's a very good price as mine was £93 a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on April 10, 2016, 05:02:13 PM
For my sins I have yet to get a Deltic but maybe I can hint as a birthday prezzie later in the year.

I have two of the 'with lights' TPO coaches (374-901A). At just under £34 without lights for the current production run is darned expensive! Glad I got my illuminated ones when I did - similar price to yours, Mick.

Hope you are fit enough to restart work on the layout soon.  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on April 10, 2016, 09:15:41 PM
At the risk of sounding like a scratched record, if Farish can use picks ups to provide running lights on  the TPOs why can't they use them for carriage lighting, and how much extra would they charge if they did? :worried:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: railsquid on April 11, 2016, 12:31:26 PM
Are those 50 quid Mk1s I see on the horizon?  :hmmm:

I was most bemused the other day when I "parked" a Japanese locomotive pulling Japanese coaching stock in the isolating section of a platform, and despite switching it "off" it still moved  :hmmm: :hmmm: then I worked out the coach pickups were bridging the gap.

Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 10, 2016, 12:47:34 PM
As I'm not in a fit state to do any actual modelling, I've been playing again, so I present for your delectation a couple of short vids of freights on 'Kimbolted'
The slight 'lump' in the track in the second one is not so much a poor rail joint rather than where IRJs are fitted in the loop ::)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zt4ajzm9dcnm4qf/J39%20on%20Kimbolted%20ballast%20freight.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zt4ajzm9dcnm4qf/J39%20on%20Kimbolted%20ballast%20freight.MOV?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/39n7hpiteaza869/B1%20on%20Kimbolted%20coal%20freight.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/39n7hpiteaza869/B1%20on%20Kimbolted%20coal%20freight.MOV?dl=0)

Once again I must acknowledge the superb weathering done on my Peco Butterleys by fellow member mk1gtstu
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on May 10, 2016, 03:34:48 PM
Thanks for the vids, Mick.

Hope you are feeling up to restarting the build soon.

 :beers:

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on May 10, 2016, 05:09:50 PM
Nice videos, Mick. Pity about the close up of your precision woodworking.  :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: port perran on May 10, 2016, 06:24:41 PM
Very nice videos Mick.
The weathering looks good on those locomotives. Not overdone.
Great stuff
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 10, 2016, 08:21:50 PM
Nice videos, Mick. Pity about the close up of your precision woodworking.  :D

Cheers, Malc (I think)
I learnt from the master...............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p_mdGtY26Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p_mdGtY26Y)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: lil chris on May 10, 2016, 09:46:33 PM
Nice couple of videos Mick, it is always nice to see something running after your efforts, I must run something on mine too.
Like the video of one of the masters of comedy often forgotten.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on May 10, 2016, 10:28:49 PM
Great stuff, Mick. Like the Kenny Everett clip too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: GeeBee on May 10, 2016, 10:34:33 PM
Nice videos Mick but where are the diseisels  :sorrysign:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: railsquid on May 11, 2016, 07:05:02 AM
As I'm not in a fit state to do any actual modelling, I've been playing again, so I present for your delectation a couple of short vids of freights on 'Kimbolted'
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zt4ajzm9dcnm4qf/J39%20on%20Kimbolted%20ballast%20freight.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zt4ajzm9dcnm4qf/J39%20on%20Kimbolted%20ballast%20freight.MOV?dl=0)
Fresh sugar supplies for the parlour tea set being delivered?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 11, 2016, 11:10:01 AM
As I'm not in a fit state to do any actual modelling, I've been playing again, so I present for your delectation a couple of short vids of freights on 'Kimbolted'
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zt4ajzm9dcnm4qf/J39%20on%20Kimbolted%20ballast%20freight.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zt4ajzm9dcnm4qf/J39%20on%20Kimbolted%20ballast%20freight.MOV?dl=0)
Fresh sugar supplies for the parlour tea set being delivered?

Mrs Miggins has started knocking out cup cakes as a sideline to her pies ;D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 11, 2016, 03:46:46 PM
Nice videos Mick but where are the diseisels  :sorrysign:


@GeeBee (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2707)

Your wish etc etc................
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gsh03yf2f0kx4ct/Diesels%20on%20Kimbolted%20freights.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/gsh03yf2f0kx4ct/Diesels%20on%20Kimbolted%20freights.MOV?dl=0)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 14, 2016, 05:10:18 PM
A bit more playing about, so class 4MT 2-6-0 76069 on a ballast train and rebuilt Royal Scot 46122 Royal Ulster Rifleman hauling a rake of Farish factory weathered MK1 stock.
(In case anyone is wondering I take my vids using my Canon bridge camera ref Powershot SX510HS which has 'normal', 'HD' and 'Super HD' settings - I use the 'HD' setting as it is a compromise between quality of picture and size of the file)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7sq5fr1z3je3kii/Mixed%20steam%20trains%20on%20Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/7sq5fr1z3je3kii/Mixed%20steam%20trains%20on%20Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0)

I have some hardboard cut to length to cover up the wood/sundeala on the inside of the track and was intending to then cover that with Merkur stone retaining walling but I'm not sure steaming that will allow it to bend sharply enough without it snapping. The alternative is to print some off from one of the suppliers but is my Epson inkjet printer suitable for this? I guess I'll have to trial some :hmmm:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Skyline2uk on May 14, 2016, 05:55:59 PM
Those locomotives both seem to be running very nicely.

Given the often bad press steam outline models get, were you lucky with these or are they the result of exchanges?

I am actually quite taken with the 4MT, it looks better in motion than in a box  ;)

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 14, 2016, 07:51:13 PM
I have approx 50 steamers, the vast majority of which are Farish, and I've hardly had any issues with them. The first Peco 22xx had to be returned and I had a front pony truck problem with a Dapol A4 which I sorted. Farish tender drive locos have a penchant for locking up the motion and the 4MT seems to suffer a lot but I find a very light lubing of the motion before use negates any such issues. It's a lovely looker and a very smooth runner so I'd recommend it to anyone. Thinking about it, it cries out for some weathering really :hmmm: :D
If I've 'been lucky' then it's occurred at least 40 times and long may it continue.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: port perran on May 14, 2016, 08:45:05 PM
Thanks Mick, another lovely little video.
I would echo what you say about steam locomotives. I have about 20 (a mix of Dapol, GF and Union Mills)and I've only had one significant fault and that was with my Dapol Ivatt 2-6-2T which suffered a major problem very recently (unfortunately 3 weeks out of guarantee!).
Again, not sure if I've been lucky but I can only comment on my experiences and largely they have been good.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: GeeBee on May 14, 2016, 10:56:30 PM
Great video Mick and thanks for the tip about tender driven locos both my Jubilees have a real problem with that it is very odd seeing a steamer running along with 6 carriages and the motion not moving
Graham
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on May 15, 2016, 12:45:14 AM
Mick I'm only getting a grey screen with a circle going around for ever on this one  ???

George
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: railsquid on May 15, 2016, 01:08:51 AM
Works for me. Maybe the bits are coming down the wire upside down from your perpsective?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on May 15, 2016, 01:14:08 AM
I'm already standing on me head  :P
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: railsquid on May 15, 2016, 01:18:28 AM
I'm already standing on me head  :P
Ah, then you need to turn the computer display upside-down too.  :beers:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: dannyboy on May 15, 2016, 01:58:09 AM
but is my Epson inkjet printer suitable for this?

I can not speak for the Epson, but I use an ordinary HP inkjet printer/scanner to print out various stone wall/pavement sheets and find that they are quite adequate when stuck onto card. Thanks to a suggestion on the forum, (I apologise to whoever gave the tip - I can't find it now  :doh: so can not give you a mention), I have printed some walling sheets onto A4 adhesive labels and am very pleased with the outcome.  :thumbsup:

Addit: having had a look round the forum, a few people have mentioned A4 adhesive labels, so thanks to you all.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 15, 2016, 09:59:28 AM
Mick I'm only getting a grey screen with a circle going around for ever on this one  ???

George

Sorry, George, but I don't know what to do about that as it might be some sort of setting you have :dunce:
I can't e mail you the file as it's way too big and I'm averse to opening a YouTube account until I have something far better to show :-[
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on May 15, 2016, 10:45:20 AM
I have watched every episode of Captain Scarlet on YouTube but that's the end of it :-[
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 30, 2016, 01:02:31 PM
Nobby has been playing with his camera again........

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ubyzhnvfizrb89/5MT%20and%20A4%20on%20Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ubyzhnvfizrb89/5MT%20and%20A4%20on%20Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpfhuhg4yuohap1/Classes%20108%20and%2025%20on%20Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpfhuhg4yuohap1/Classes%20108%20and%2025%20on%20Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yykek2kg2ysqwv1/Blue%20Pullman%20and%20class%2020%20on%20Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yykek2kg2ysqwv1/Blue%20Pullman%20and%20class%2020%20on%20Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: port perran on May 30, 2016, 01:13:31 PM
Excellent.
I particularly like the A4 with that maroon stock and the Class 20 with the cement hoppers.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on May 30, 2016, 03:59:58 PM
Some nice rakes of coaches and wagons there, Mick. Which loco was the A4?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: austinbob on May 30, 2016, 04:15:46 PM
Very nice - must crack on with my layout and get some trains running!!
 :) :beers:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 30, 2016, 04:39:25 PM
Some nice rakes of coaches and wagons there, Mick. Which loco was the A4?


@Malc (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=497)
Hi Malc,
Dapols late crest 60021 Wild Swan (ND128C)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Yet_Another on May 30, 2016, 04:58:44 PM
I was going to say the smooth steam one  :smiley-laughing: :sorrysign:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: MinZaPint on May 30, 2016, 05:05:06 PM
Hi Mick   really like the vids and why am I not surprised to see you've got a screw loose!  :D (by the end of your Perspex safety screen)
 
Cheers  David
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on May 30, 2016, 06:40:29 PM
Very nice, Mick.  :thumbsup:

Was thinking that after that close-up, a few passengers see through the windows of the 108 would look totally brilliant.

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: austinbob on May 30, 2016, 06:57:05 PM
Very nice, Mick.  :thumbsup:

Was thinking that after that close-up, a few passengers see through the windows of the 108 would look totally brilliant.

Dave G
How about a few cups of tea and some pastries as well!!
 :)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on May 30, 2016, 07:08:12 PM
Very nice, Mick.  :thumbsup:

Was thinking that after that close-up, a few passengers see through the windows of the 108 would look totally brilliant.

Dave G
How about a few cups of tea and some pastries as well!!
 :)

I don't think it is a good idea for Mick to be a trolley dolly, reversing up the coaches pulling a trolly would never get by Health and Safety  :angel:

Cheers John.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: austinbob on May 30, 2016, 07:52:14 PM
Very nice, Mick.  :thumbsup:

Was thinking that after that close-up, a few passengers see through the windows of the 108 would look totally brilliant.

Dave G
How about a few cups of tea and some pastries as well!!
 :)

I don't think it is a good idea for Mick to be a trolley dolly, reversing up the coaches pulling a trolly would never get by Health and Safety  :angel:

Cheers John.
Spoilsport _ never put you down as n elf n safety freak!
 ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 30, 2016, 08:14:45 PM
In amongst all this, no one seems to have noticed the class 108 is a 4 car unit :P
I have no intention of becoming a trolley dolly as I haven't got the legs for it and the beard might put customers off their food ::)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: GeeBee on May 30, 2016, 08:56:21 PM
Very nice videos some of it very close as I was at Gloucester & Warwickshire Railway for their steam Gala today
 :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 30, 2016, 11:25:38 PM
  :hellosign: Nice videos NN, love the Blue Pullman, thanks for sharing
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: railsquid on May 31, 2016, 12:00:12 AM
I have no intention of becoming a trolley dolly as I haven't got the legs for it and the beard might put customers off their food ::)
Not something I want to imagine first thing in the morning  :no:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on May 31, 2016, 12:19:57 AM
Just got a look at the BP in action, there Mick. Needless to say it's made me day.  :beers:

I've got the same cement wagons (I picked them up in Skipton on that Wigan trip in2014) - except you've got like, a million more of them  ;D

George
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on May 31, 2016, 06:23:57 AM
In amongst all this, no one seems to have noticed the class 108 is a 4 car unit :P
I have no intention of becoming a trolley dolly as I haven't got the legs for it and the beard might put customers off their food ::)

I did but forgot to mention it -  :sorrysign:

You could be the guard and looking menacingly at a couple who haven't got a ticket.

Dave G

Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 31, 2016, 09:05:46 AM
Thanks for the very nice videos, Nobby. You've got some realistic length trains running which look very impressive.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 31, 2016, 10:50:51 AM
Just got a look at the BP in action, there Mick. Needless to say it's made me day.  :beers:

I've got the same cement wagons (I picked them up in Skipton on that Wigan trip in2014) - except you've got like, a million more of them  ;D

George

I've told you a thousand times not to exaggerate, George :laugh:
There's only 15 of them (5 packs)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on May 31, 2016, 10:53:52 AM
I have no intention of becoming a trolley dolly as I haven't got the legs for it and the beard might put customers off their food ::)
Not something I want to imagine first thing in the morning  :no:

Think yourself lucky you don't have to see it every day, Squiddy :sick2:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 03, 2016, 04:26:01 PM
More playing :sleep:
It's a shame the focus on the camera is a compromise between the inner and outer ovals as, with me using the swivel feature of my tripod with one hand, I could probably do with sprouting another hand :hmmm:
Anyway, this one is for Western Region steam fans - class 2884 number 3836 plods along with a mineral load as Foxcote Manor (an Ixion model) passes on the Up line with a rake of Colletts.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9nzbdj4fsqtj1lz/Western%20Region%20steam%20on%20Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/9nzbdj4fsqtj1lz/Western%20Region%20steam%20on%20Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0)

Moving to the south of Kimbolted some Southern Region trains could be seen as a Q1 33030 hurries a mineral freight along as N class 31811 passes with some Bulleids and a bogie B luggage van.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ardfgq0125zkjy/Southern%20Region%20steam%20on%20Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ardfgq0125zkjy/Southern%20Region%20steam%20on%20Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0)

(In truth the Q1 wouldn't travel any slower without slipping on pointwork as it had 30 Peco wagons on the back. It is also an early crest version despite the fact I bought it off a fellow member and the box is labelled 'Late Crest'. I did know this when buying, however, and have 2 of 'em) :doh:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: scotsoft on June 03, 2016, 04:48:38 PM
My dear Spielberg,

Your epics never fail to cause visual enjoyment, thank you for posting them.

Cheers John.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: MinZaPint on June 03, 2016, 05:09:29 PM
More nice vids Mick, thanks for posting  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on June 04, 2016, 12:46:33 AM
Always been a fan of the Q1. My daughter's partner couldn't understand why I spent so much time on it when I took him to the the York museum, when there were A4s in abundance at that time!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 04, 2016, 05:43:07 AM
Thanks for two excellent videos of some of my favourite locos. The individually weathered rake of Peco mineral wagons is highly impressive, too.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: port perran on June 04, 2016, 07:52:39 AM
Great little videos Mick.
I really like both classes of locomotive and keep resisting a 28XX as it would look out of place on my layout (and they were very rarely seen West of Plymouth). 
Don't know why I worry though as I do have a Q1 and (as far as I know) they were NEVER seen in Cornwall.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 04, 2016, 08:43:08 AM
Great little videos Mick.
I really like both classes of locomotive and keep resisting a 28XX as it would look out of place on my layout (and they were very rarely seen West of Plymouth). 
Don't know why I worry though as I do have a Q1 and (as far as I know) they were NEVER seen in Cornwall.

I'm also very fond of the Dapol 28XXs. However, I really cannot justify one even with a WR line upgrade from Wadebridge to Penmayne as there would not be any suitable heavy goods trains. However, as the Truro - Newquay - Wadebridge line (passing through Port Perran and Trepol Bay) was, in our alternative Cornwall, upgraded by the WR to mainline standards, I think you could justify running a 28XX, Martin, on suitable goods trains?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on June 04, 2016, 09:42:28 AM
Thanks Mick.

Great rake of wagons and some very nice locos. I have two Ixion Manors which I think are my favourites but there again there's the Ns and ......  :)

Glad you're enjoying and sharing your railway despite the lack of third hand.

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 21, 2016, 12:05:05 PM
Oh Gawd, he's been at the camera again ::)

A class 33 on a Bournemouth to Oxford parcels has just been slowed by a signal check as a Warship proceeds south with a short coal train..........

https://www.dropbox.com/s/79rs4ls0e5vlm4i/Farish%2033%20on%20parcels%20with%20Warship%20on%20coal%20freight.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/79rs4ls0e5vlm4i/Farish%2033%20on%20parcels%20with%20Warship%20on%20coal%20freight.MOV?dl=0)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 21, 2016, 04:43:17 PM
Thanks for the video. That is a VERY varied collection of parcels stock in a wide variety of liveries from Southern Railway Green to (I think) BR Blue! The individually weathered large coal wagons look very fine. (Were you after another Dapol one as I have 4 differently numbered dark grey ones which is, probably, two too many for a line in Cornwall were they were only used for delivering loco coal?)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: belstone on June 21, 2016, 07:41:34 PM
Parcels trains from this era were great - no two vehicles the same.  You could have a few 10' wheelbase vans in there as well, an ex GW Siphon G, BR CCTs and a couple of six wheelers.  And as Chris says, the weathering on the coal wagons is just right.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: keerout on June 21, 2016, 07:53:26 PM
Hi Nobby,
If you are looking for your keys, they are on the layout....  ;)
Nice video, but as with my layout, time for some scenery me boy! (rubber will only get you that far..)
Gerard  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 21, 2016, 08:20:38 PM
Thanks for the kind comments.
Thanks for the video. That is a VERY varied collection of parcels stock in a wide variety of liveries from Southern Railway Green to (I think) BR Blue! The individually weathered large coal wagons look very fine. (Were you after another Dapol one as I have 4 differently numbered dark grey ones which is, probably, two too many for a line in Cornwall were they were only used for delivering loco coal?)


It is only really thanks to Farish lately that I could put together such a rake. No blue at all, Chris :no:
Farish
LMS Crimson Full Brake weathered
Southern PLV
Southern green bogie luggage van
BR SR green bogie luggage van
BR green GUV
Maunsell Brake
Plus
Dapol Southern green CCT
Dapol BR Southern green CCT

Thanks for the offer of more mineral wagons, but it is the Dapol weathered 21T hoppers once sold by County Rolling Stock that I'm seeking.

Parcels trains from this era were great - no two vehicles the same.  You could have a few 10' wheelbase vans in there as well, an ex GW Siphon G, BR CCTs and a couple of six wheelers.  And as Chris says, the weathering on the coal wagons is just right.


I do have other vehicles I can use. More CCTs, more GUVs, full brakes etc but they were just not to hand at the time.

The Peco mineral wagons were pristine until I asked fellow forum member 'mk1gtstu' to weather them for me and he has, as you say, done a fantastic job.
Further examples of his work can be seen here.............
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.msg377203#msg377203 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.msg377203#msg377203)


Nice video, but as with my layout, time for some scenery me boy! (rubber will only get you that far..)
Gerard  :thumbsup:


Therein lies the problem, Gerard. I can't do the scenery until I have done the electrics on the tracks which will involve a lot of soldering and, since my operation, I just don't have the hand control needed for soldering. If it doesn't return in the near future I may have to consider paying someone to do this for me :-\


Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 21, 2016, 09:00:56 PM
Stu, is indeed a master of coal wagon weathering. His look incredibly realistic. I love his boxfile layout.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: lil chris on June 21, 2016, 11:34:37 PM
Mick if you want any help with the soldering just give me a shout, I will do some for you, I do not want paying just glad to help. I take it you have some decent solder and a iron etc, you are not that far from me, just let me know.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: port perran on June 22, 2016, 08:20:50 AM
Are those keys a cryptic clue that you're going to build a quay there :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on June 22, 2016, 08:33:21 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 22, 2016, 08:22:18 PM
Mick if you want any help with the soldering just give me a shout, I will do some for you, I do not want paying just glad to help. I take it you have some decent solder and a iron etc, you are not that far from me, just let me know.


Thank you so much, Chris.  :pmsign:
@lil chris (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on August 21, 2016, 03:09:58 PM
I need some help with the planning of the track for my Kimbolted upper level branch line. This is the bit which is cast in stone (not literally) with 9" curves at each end. Imagine where they end on the plan attached is where they disappear into the fiddle yard beyond the backscene.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/264-210816144418-430671081.jpeg)

The area I have left to play with measures 72" between the curves at each end, and 9" between the upper level road which will run along the backscene and a code 55 double slip which will sit just above the upper platform. This will also leave some leeway between the double slip and the bottom of the curves where they enter the station itself.

No doubt I'm trying to fit too much in, but I'd like to model a 2 road loco shed (Lyddle End stone), a goods yard (Lyddle End stone), cattle dock, dairy (Metcalfe) and, if possible a cement works (Walthers Gravel Company kit). These will all come off the double slip and sidings will be required where necessary e.g. the loco shed will need a couple of storage/servicing sidings, the goods yard needs a couple of sidings as does the dairy and the 'cement' works.

The problem I'm finding is what to put next to what. A loco shed next to the goods yard/dairy/cattle dock would just make everything mucky and scare the cattle so maybe it ought to go close to the cement plant on the RHS to also allow a headshunt for what goes on the LHS. That would leave the goods yard alongside the cattle dock and dairy. I just don't think space will allow me to plant the Lyddle End gasholder and works which I have the full set of(or should I junk the cement works and go for the Lyddle End stuff?

What does the team think please as I've been going round in circles with this and getting nowhere despite being able to run trains round the oval and through the station via jury rigged wiring for test purposes, you understand ;)

Just a reminder this is transition era set close to Oxford.

 :thankyousign:

Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: port perran on August 21, 2016, 04:59:56 PM
Goods yard, cattle dock and dairy would definitely work together and, I think will look ok.  Engine shed on the other side as far from the cattle dock as possible.
I guess ultimately the cement works will take up most room (realistically) so if it were my decision that would go. I'm not sure a. Cement works and dairy would co-exist anyway.
Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on August 21, 2016, 06:27:35 PM
I agree. Can't imagine a cement works being located so close to the other facilities you're planning.

Look forward to learning what you decide.

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on September 20, 2016, 02:59:25 PM
OK. I've been doing my head inplaying around with SCARM and have come up with the following and, yes, I'd still like the Cement Works as I have a Walthers kit and weathered Presflos :P
The 2 inner long curves disappear under a raised road which runs along the backscene and thus into a fiddle yard behind said backscene.
I still have to find some way the passengers can reach the uppermost platform which will have the main station building as the lower platforms back onto the drop onto the lower level running lines.
As usual I have planned in set track but will use code 55 throughout.
Comments/suggestions welcome, especially if they are sensible ;D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/264-200916145637-43727903.jpeg)

Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: lil chris on September 20, 2016, 10:16:28 PM
Where do the two outer curves go to Mick, also why not take the track to the cement works off from the mainline further round to the right of  the station, creating a separate junction. The head shunt and the loco shed tracks could then come off the double slip and the head shunt track could be tighter towards the Loco shed lines. This would then avoid the cement traffic going through the slip and near the other lines for the dairy and cattle dock. I take it you have bi directional running on the track and it would be a facing point for one direction for the cement works, thats why I asked about the other two tracks.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: lil chris on September 20, 2016, 10:32:31 PM
This is a rough idea what I mean.......
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1784-200916223205.jpeg)

It also has the advantage of better running, everything is not going through the one slip, cement traffic can be separate from the other goods traffic.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: lil chris on September 20, 2016, 10:40:11 PM
Another idea too Mick, why not have the bay platform where the top station loop is, then have the bottom track as the loop continuing across the bottom. This would also enable you to have a train go round while shunting on the top. At the moment all traffic is using the same piece of track to get to the goods yard the bay platform and the station loop.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1784-200916224330.jpeg)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: zwilnik on September 20, 2016, 11:57:39 PM
Another idea too Mick, why not have the bay platform where the top station loop is, then have the bottom track as the loop continuing across the bottom. This would also enable you to have a train go round while shunting on the top. At the moment all traffic is using the same piece of track to get to the goods yard the bay platform and the station loop.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1784-200916224330.jpeg[/url])


Didn't Mick mention that those end curves are 9" Radius Chris? If that's the case, the line running inside that to the cement works on your tweaked design would probably be too sharp (and you'd have difficulty finding a set of points for it).

I'd be tempted to run the line to the cement works through from the hidden fiddle yard diagonally (you could have a road bridge covering the entrance through the back scene) which would separate it from the station and potentially give you more space to play with.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: zwilnik on September 21, 2016, 12:03:54 AM
I'm thinking something like this..

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/8-210916000234.jpeg)

I actually kind of like the bay platform being at the bottom as it stops there being straight track directly along the front of the layout and causes the trains to curve around into the station.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on September 21, 2016, 05:36:39 AM
I like your thinking, although that might take a rather large bite out of the fiddle yard behind the backscene and the curvature may prove to be less than the 9" radius already used on the running lines for the branch. I'll have a play and see.

I actually kind of like the bay platform being at the bottom as it stops there being straight track directly along the front of the layout and causes the trains to curve around into the station.

With so little space, that was my intention as I'm not at all keen on straight track parallel with the baseboard edge so this was a way to get some 'bendy bits' in.
Thanks for the reply.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 21, 2016, 07:46:23 AM
I suppose some kind of footbridge will be required to link the platforms?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on September 21, 2016, 10:12:24 AM
@Zwilnik (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8) @lil chris (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784) @Chris in Prague (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895)

As I suspected the bi-directional running lines into the fiddle yard are already at 9" radius so I wouldn't want to go any tighter. You will see from the following pic it would completely mess up the fiddle yard if I tried to turn the LHS back on itself to provide tracks to the cement plant.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/264-210916095557-437302434.jpeg)

Likewise, the 9" radius main curves prevent me from looking at feeding the cement plant from the right hand side. Nice thought, though.

Sorry, Chris, but I like the bay platform as it is. OK - if the train needs to proceed eastwards then it will have to emerge to the west and then set off but, from past experience, I know that to be prototypical (I just can't remember where it was ::))
I'm very happy to have a bi directional line with access to the goods yard, loco shed, dairy etc off one line as, after all, it is only a branch line.

CiP - I plan currently to have a footbridge between the 2 platforms and may have to make a pedestrian bridge to access the station building on the topmost platform. It's either that or maybe create an underpass for access :hmmm:

Thanks for your continued interest in this saga.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: zwilnik on September 21, 2016, 10:25:07 AM
Is that photo of the fiddle yard? If so then maybe it's worth swapping the dairy and cement works over and running the cement world line as a continuation of the right hand main curve forward through the back scene to a cement works on the left of the layout?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on September 21, 2016, 10:55:04 AM
Is that photo of the fiddle yard? If so then maybe it's worth swapping the dairy and cement works over and running the cement world line as a continuation of the right hand main curve forward through the back scene to a cement works on the left of the layout?

Sorry - maybe I'm being a bit thick this morning but, yes, it's a pic of the fiddle yard looking down to the LHS at the far end. I can't see how I can possibly take the lines that pass through the backscene anywhere other than where they are as they are already at 9". Surely it would give the same issue as Lil Chris had in that I'd need a tightly curved point to access the cement plant at the LHS just as on the RHS? :dunce:
It would also put the cement plant near the goods yard on the LHS and the dairy/cattle dock and loco shed on the RHS. Cue scared livestock (stampede!!) and dirty parcels :hmmm:
Don't give up on me!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: zwilnik on September 21, 2016, 11:32:58 AM
Is this diagram of the fiddle yard (in blue) roughly approximate to what you've got?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/8-210916110907.jpeg)

If so, maybe changing the point marked X (and circled blue in this next pic) to a crossover and running a curve down the middle of the layout to the cement works, which may need to be rotated a bit (possibly adjust the goods head shunt for space?)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/8-210916113022.jpeg)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on September 21, 2016, 01:47:54 PM
Aha - I see what you're getting at now. Thank you!
That's going to take some thinking about as (a) ideally that point would need to become a single slip which will take up more space and (b) that will mean 3 tracks disappearing under the town's main road - the ones at each end and the one to/from the cement works.
The other problem is the fiddle yards (upper and lower levels) are only accessible by me stooping to get under the layout to the back, and I'm getting no younger or flexible. The more complicated the yard, the more likely trouble will raise its head :hmmm:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: zwilnik on September 21, 2016, 01:53:18 PM
Aha - I see what you're getting at now. Thank you!
That's going to take some thinking about as (a) ideally that point would need to become a single slip which will take up more space and (b) that will mean 3 tracks disappearing under the town's main road - the ones at each end and the one to/from the cement works.
The other problem is the fiddle yards (upper and lower levels) are only accessible by me stooping to get under the layout to the back, and I'm getting no younger or flexible. The more complicated the yard, the more likely trouble will raise its head :hmmm:

That's why I'm thinking a simple crossover might be ideal. You can still park stuff in that siding by running in from the other side and it simplifies it all a bit.

For the cement works one, you could always do it going into a factory/warehouse building as its exit from the scenic area.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on September 21, 2016, 02:09:57 PM

For the cement works one, you could always do it going into a factory/warehouse building as its exit from the scenic area.

As the main road runs all the way across the layout at a 44mm height (nominal 2"" x 1" timber) the factory/warehouse would have to be at the same level as the cement plant which is no bad idea as it breaks up the scenery side a bit more.
I agree about the crossing and might get away with a small version.
Food for thought.
 :thankyousign:

Edit:- I've printed off the template for the Peco code 55 short crossing SL-E395F and will check space tomorrow
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: zwilnik on September 21, 2016, 02:34:58 PM

For the cement works one, you could always do it going into a factory/warehouse building as its exit from the scenic area.

As the main road runs all the way across the layout at a 44mm height (nominal 2"" x 1" timber) the factory/warehouse would have to be at the same level as the cement plant which is no bad idea as it breaks up the scenery side a bit more.
I agree about the crossing and might get away with a small version.
Food for thought.
 :thankyousign:

That's what I was thinking, some sort of warehouse or other building that would be part of the cement works
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on September 22, 2016, 03:00:02 PM
@Zwilnik (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8)
The Peco SL-E395F can be made to fit (for some reason the geometry isn't an exact match for the code 55 small points I am using) but it looks as if I'm going to give myself 2 extra headaches if I proceed:-

1. The track would emerge from the fiddle yard through the backscene and then appear from the ground floor of a factory/warehouse which would look a bit odd :hmmm:

2. It seems the electrofrog diamond crossing requires wiring through a DPDT switch and, as anyone who knows me can tell you, stuff like that just makes me shy away as I'm a complete electrickery numpty. OK, this diagram is for the code 83 version but I guess the principle is the same :worried:
http://www.peco-uk.com/imageselector/Files/Instruction%20sheets/Code%2083%20Electrofrog%20A4%20Eng.pdf (http://www.peco-uk.com/imageselector/Files/Instruction%20sheets/Code%2083%20Electrofrog%20A4%20Eng.pdf)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: zwilnik on September 22, 2016, 03:05:03 PM
@Zwilnik ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8[/url])
The Peco SL-E395F can be made to fit (for some reason the geometry isn't an exact match for the code 55 small points I am using) but it looks as if I'm going to give myself 2 extra headaches if I proceed:-

1. The track would emerge from the fiddle yard through the backscene and then appear from the ground floor of a factory/warehouse which would look a bit odd :hmmm:

2. It seems the electrofrog diamond crossing requires wiring through a DPDT switch and, as anyone who knows me can tell you, stuff like that just makes me shy away as I'm a complete electrickery numpty. OK, this diagram is for the code 83 version but I guess the principle is the same :worried:
[url]http://www.peco-uk.com/imageselector/Files/Instruction%20sheets/Code%2083%20Electrofrog%20A4%20Eng.pdf[/url] ([url]http://www.peco-uk.com/imageselector/Files/Instruction%20sheets/Code%2083%20Electrofrog%20A4%20Eng.pdf[/url])


There are plenty of factory/dock/industrial rail layouts where lines have run through buildings, so that shouldn't be too bad. Another option is if it's a hopper loading bay for instance. I'll see if I can find a good reference photo.

As it's in the fiddle yard you can probably get away with an insulfrog diamond crossing, which makes life a *lot* easier.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on September 22, 2016, 03:38:16 PM

As it's in the fiddle yard you can probably get away with an insulfrog diamond crossing, which makes life a *lot* easier.

Electrics wise, quite possibly but, as I posted earlier, the fiddle yard is only accessible by me crawling under the layout so any stalling by small locos would be a PITA.
Believe me, your help is proving invaluable!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: zwilnik on September 22, 2016, 03:46:00 PM

As it's in the fiddle yard you can probably get away with an insulfrog diamond crossing, which makes life a *lot* easier.

Electrics wise, quite possibly but, as I posted earlier, the fiddle yard is only accessible by me crawling under the layout so any stalling by small locos would be a PITA.
Believe me, your help is proving invaluable!

that's a good point (hah!). Another option would be to use 2 sets of points instead of a crossover. You'd be able to use electrofrogs without wiring hassles but it would make the crossover a bit longer, so you'd have slightly less space to turn the track through the backboard.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: zwilnik on September 22, 2016, 03:56:57 PM
As far as hiding the back scene exit, looking at various pics of cement works, it looks like there are a few possibly buildings in them that have trains running through. That or a simple rail warehouse with a through line.

If you can set the loading hoppers up to be just in front of the back scene, then you could use them to cover it :)

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi139.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq301%2Fggpaine%2FBoothbay%2520Railroad%2FDragon%2520Cement%2F09-04-09DragonCementLoadingandMainG.jpg&f=1
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: lil chris on September 22, 2016, 04:43:39 PM
I have a couple of code 55 diamond crossings, I used them on the old layout, I had two crossover junctions. I had the frog wired to the point connected to the crossover it was easy to wire up. If you want one of them let me know.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Mito on September 22, 2016, 05:23:23 PM
If you put the unloading facility against the backscene then you could have a loaded train going through to the fiddle yard and another empty coming out. Two trains, one clockwise the other anti-clockwise. Just a thought. :)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on September 22, 2016, 08:13:35 PM
As far as hiding the back scene exit, looking at various pics of cement works, it looks like there are a few possibly buildings in them that have trains running through. That or a simple rail warehouse with a through line.

If you can set the loading hoppers up to be just in front of the back scene, then you could use them to cover it :)

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi139.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq301%2Fggpaine%2FBoothbay%2520Railroad%2FDragon%2520Cement%2F09-04-09DragonCementLoadingandMainG.jpg&f=1

Thanks for the pic but there's no way I have the space for anything like that! The Walthers gravel Company kit actually has quite a small footprint and, with the 15 weathered Preslos, I may be able to hide things :hmmm:

I have a couple of code 55 diamond crossings, I used them on the old layout, I had two crossover junctions. I had the frog wired to the point connected to the crossover it was easy to wire up. If you want one of them let me know.

Thanks Chris. If they are the short electrofrog version (SL-E395F) I'd appreciate one and could perhaps pay you for it at the Wigan show (Saturday 1st Oct).

If you put the unloading facility against the backscene then you could have a loaded train going through to the fiddle yard and another empty coming out. Two trains, one clockwise the other anti-clockwise. Just a thought. :)

Not really possible as the backscene will have the High Street running along it above the railway track level so the factory/warehouse will hide a stretch of the road. Space just doesn't allow what you suggest and the stone retaining wall I intend to use between the road level and the track level would already be pierced 3 times by the railway. I think a fourth maybe a hole too far in just an 8ft length.
Thanks for your input, though!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: lil chris on September 22, 2016, 08:54:22 PM
Sorry Mick they are SL-E394F long crossing, they are a match for the SL-E395/6F medium points or SL-E391/2 small radius points with a crossing angle of 10". The number you have has confused me slightly, my catalogue is 2012 vintage, have they changed the numbers?

In my catalogue the short crossing is SL-E393F, crossing angle is 20".
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on September 22, 2016, 09:04:12 PM
Sorry everyone. Looks like a typo for the code as the short crossing code 55 electrofrog is SL-E393F

http://www.hattons.co.uk/7644/Peco_Products_SL_E393F_Finescale_short_crossing_with_electrofrog/StockDetail.aspx (http://www.hattons.co.uk/7644/Peco_Products_SL_E393F_Finescale_short_crossing_with_electrofrog/StockDetail.aspx)

 :sorrysign:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: lil chris on September 22, 2016, 09:37:59 PM
Hi Mick what point is that you are using on your fiddle yard, and it looks like a small piece of track before the next point( where the join is), I am sure the long crossing will fit plus it will be the same geometry/ angle has your point. The long crossing is just over 6", I will check when I find it.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on September 23, 2016, 11:33:34 AM
@lil chris (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784)

You are spot on, my friend. The small point + a small length of track you see come to a total of 6" in length so a longer crossing would be possible.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: lil chris on September 23, 2016, 04:59:18 PM
Hi Mick I thought it would fit, I will find it tonight I know I have two plus a single slip in a box somewhere.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: lil chris on September 23, 2016, 09:50:25 PM
@newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)
Good news Mick I have the crossover, they come with 4 wires attached, 2 frog wires and 2 feed wires, they are easy to wire up if you use a point motor connected to the crossing which has two switches. They worked good when I was using them, you are on dc though, I would imagine the wiring is the same. By the way I have a single slip has well, they are the same length which would probably give you better running, you would of course need two motors. The only thing with the slips I removed the springs because I was using it with the cobalt motors, the live frogs are easy to wire with the cobalt motors.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on September 24, 2016, 01:17:28 PM
@lil chris (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784)
Thanks Chris. I'll take a crossover off you if I may, and perhaps we could catch up at the Wigan Show.
The single slip would be a step too far for me, I think, but, out of curiosity, why would you need two motors for something with one tiebar? :confused2:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: zwilnik on September 24, 2016, 02:23:09 PM
The single slip still has 2 tie bars but is just more limited in the directions it can send the train in.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: lil chris on September 24, 2016, 05:20:11 PM
Mick it is your choice, personally I think  the slip would be better. If you replace a point with a crossover you are losing the movement you had with the point. The slip would give you both the move you had before plus a crossover, and with two motors with a switch on each easy to wire the frogs.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on September 24, 2016, 05:43:16 PM
I'll have a think and let you know, Chris.
As Zwilnik said, I can still gain access to the sidings one way or another with a crossing :hmmm:
I'm not happy with the springs being missing as really I'd need the self latching Seeps (SP4??)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: lil chris on September 25, 2016, 10:16:54 PM
@newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)
Hi Mick just a modified diagram showing the advantage of the single slip over a crossover. I think you know what I mean anyway but here we go. A slip allows you to go from A to B has the point but also allows A to D and of course C to B, a double slip would add C to D. They are both the same price and both need 2 motors, you wire the motor switch on a & c end to work the b & d frog and v versa simple. If you want to buy a new one and not mine so you can use Seep motors that is ok by me.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1784-250916220919.jpeg)

If you decide on the crossing you will need dpdt switch for the frogs or the point controlling the crossing from A would need two switches. The two frogs on the crossing need to be opposing polarity hence ywo switches or a dpdt switch to do that same.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on September 26, 2016, 12:52:45 PM
@lil chris (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784) Thanks, Chris, but I'll stick with the crossing please. The 2 'forked' sidings are purely for storage of DMUs/Bubble Car or pick up freights so can access them from either side.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: lil chris on September 26, 2016, 05:04:25 PM
@newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)
No problem Mick we will have to make sure we meet at Wigan show then.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on September 26, 2016, 08:03:18 PM
@lil chris (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784)

Hi Chris,
Drop me a PM letting me know what time you'll be at the show and we'll meet up. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: georgehgv on January 27, 2017, 03:29:19 PM

As it's in the fiddle yard you can probably get away with an insulfrog diamond crossing, which makes life a *lot* easier.

Electrics wise, quite possibly but, as I posted earlier, the fiddle yard is only accessible by me crawling under the layout so any stalling by small locos would be a PITA.
Believe me, your help is proving invaluable!


Been doing a bit of reading about Kimbolted and wondered what has happened to it of late, and can we please have a photo of you crawling under layout? Need cheering up today. Hi  :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on January 27, 2017, 04:19:52 PM
I hate to be negative but the simple answers to your questions are 'nothing' and 'no', George.
The layout is still used by me to run some trains now and then just to retain the mojo but I want to concentrate more on 'Bletchford' this year as, if I get things sorted on that one, I can then transfer the knowledge to 'Kimbolted'.
Thanks for asking, though. :)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: MinZaPint on February 01, 2017, 12:35:55 PM
Well progress on "Bletchford" is certainly something to look forward, your scenic work was some of the most natural that I have had the pleasure of enjoying. All power to your elbow! best wishes  David
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 22, 2017, 12:15:38 PM
If you tuned in thinking some progress had been made you'll be sorely disappointed.
I just felt the need to run some trains round whilst vacuuming my navel. I have to admit to being very surprised how smoothly everything ran considering I haven't cleaned the track in over 3 months, so here's a bit of silliness with a class 14 on a pick up goods comprising some oddments such as the NGF hopper (Dapol/Robbies Rolling Stock), a Tunnocks van (Peco special from the SECC show) and a Lima Castrol GTX van amongst others. Blink and you'll miss it............

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gc1sbljc02snpy3/Class%2014%20on%20pick%20up%20goods.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/gc1sbljc02snpy3/Class%2014%20on%20pick%20up%20goods.MOV?dl=0)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daffy on June 22, 2017, 12:52:10 PM
I'm sorely disappointed as I tuned in specifically to see you vacuuming your navel. :(

But I blinked and missed it. :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: MinZaPint on June 22, 2017, 01:06:35 PM
"I just felt the need to run some trains round whilst vacuuming my navel." There was I looking forward to seeing your latest "bit of fluff"   :goggleeyes:  :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 23, 2017, 09:31:51 AM
"I just felt the need to run some trains round whilst vacuuming my navel." There was I looking forward to seeing your latest "bit of fluff"   :goggleeyes:  :D

He's given it up for lint.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on September 20, 2017, 03:28:10 PM
A Castle 'Sir Daniel Gooch' hauls some ECS (empty coaching stock) heading for the carriage wash just outside Oxford while a Churchward 45xx number 4570 heads a local milk train towards Oxford from Charlbury. Rumours of the closure of 'Kimbolted' were dispelled this morning as the brake van train was discovered to be the local enthusiasts club outing round the branch hauled by pannier 6412, as opposed to these types of trains which normally herald a closure/follow a closure.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lmqw61da2a435kl/Still%20trains%20on%20Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/lmqw61da2a435kl/Still%20trains%20on%20Kimbolted.MOV?dl=0)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: port perran on September 20, 2017, 03:45:00 PM
Glad to hear that Kimbolted has not closed.
I do hope that the local club have an enjoyable trip aboard the brakevan special and good to see the Queen Mary making an appearance.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bob Tidbury on September 20, 2017, 05:35:05 PM
I hope you sifted through the fluff from your navel Mick you might have found that coupling spring or tiny screw you lost when you last serviced a loco.

Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Milton Rail on September 21, 2017, 02:27:37 PM
Nice to see some footage of Kimbolted, though I only got 2 seconds before my struggling internet connection cratered ... somewhere up there, there is a satellite with an overloaded & overheated bit of circuitry!  Will save the link and take a look when I get home!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 11, 2017, 12:31:11 PM
Most folks who know me well will know I'm not a hi-tech kind of chap so when it came to being able to see what's going on in my fiddle yards did I go for CCTV in HD? Erm, no.
Yesterday I bought some lengths of triangular timber (known technically as 47mm x 47mm tilt fillet) and a couple of cheap shaving mirrors. Total outlay £8.
This morning I attached said timber to the rear corners of the layout, put a decent sized screw in to them 21" high (arbitrary - no science involved) and dangle the mirrors on the screws at a guesstimated angle.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/264-111017122052-56634110.jpeg)

I then grovelled back to the front of the layout, fetched my camera and filmed this. Apologies for the poor quality but the MK1 eyeball sees things clearer than a camera lens at times............

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ayzyfg8rmf9rnp7/Fiddle%20yard%20mirrors.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ayzyfg8rmf9rnp7/Fiddle%20yard%20mirrors.MOV?dl=0)

All I need to do to keep track of trains is shuffle along the front of the layout with my trusty Morley handhelds and Robert's your mother's brother.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 11, 2017, 12:45:19 PM
A fine low-cost lo-tech solution! 8-)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Innovationgame on October 11, 2017, 12:46:46 PM
A fine low-cost lo-tech solution! 8-)
Seconded!  Why use technology when a simple solution will suffice.  I think some people use technology for the sake of it.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: port perran on October 11, 2017, 01:27:31 PM
Great. That's my level of technology.
Why use a sledgehammer to crack a nut when nutcrackers will do?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: dannyboy on October 11, 2017, 02:37:09 PM
Amazing what a bit of ingenuity can do  :thumbsup:.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 11, 2017, 03:11:29 PM
I'm a great believer in KISS.
When we have a dry day (it's now been raining non-stop for 12 hours ::)) I'll remove excess wood from the tops (shame this timber doesn't come planed)
The next idea is to string a lightweight batten between the 2 fillets and run  a strip of LEDs across to light the fiddle yard, possibly using a dimmer switch :hmmm:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 11, 2017, 03:15:02 PM
Just a word of caution Mick:

As a general rule LEDs don’t like dimmer switches. You can get special LED bulbs that work with them, but they are more expensive.

Maybe look at some LED reels that come with a remote that can change brightness?

*Edit*

Like these:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/332233838348 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/332233838348)

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 11, 2017, 03:16:48 PM
Thanks for that info. I believe Direct Train Supplies do such a thing so I'll be having a word at the Warrington Show.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 11, 2017, 03:18:57 PM
No problem mate

My farther in law uses the lights in my link for Christmas decorating, they are good.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daffy on October 11, 2017, 03:31:59 PM
Rather than using a horizontal batten, which might have mounting/strength issues, you could tension a lightweight wire between the fillets to string the lights on. It would look less cumbersome too.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on October 11, 2017, 07:56:52 PM
You could just use a 1k ohm pot wired in series to dim a few LEDs.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 11, 2017, 08:37:32 PM
You could just use a 1k ohm pot wired in series to dim a few LEDs.

Now you're just baffling me with that there electrickery speak, Malc :help:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 11, 2017, 08:46:25 PM
“Pot” = Potentiometer

It’s a form of variable resistor, used in controllers and dimmers.

The proposed set up would work, I have done it with sone LEDs in my buildings BUT I don’t change the brightness, it’s effectively a fixed resistor for me. As mentioned above LEDs not great at dimming.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 11, 2017, 08:50:40 PM
Sorry, Squiffy, I still don't understand your banter :dunce:

Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on October 11, 2017, 09:13:14 PM
I've got a bunch of LED GU10 bulbs linked to a suitable dimmer in the railway room.

Not sure if the LED strip (tape) can be controlled that way but I'm sure one of our resident experts can advise.

I have a couple of 12v, 5M long warm white strips in our conservatory that do a grand job. No problems with loss of adhesion or output despite the high temperatures through the last 2 summers.

Many offers if you Google  - I've had good service from these people:

https://www.ledhut.co.uk/led-strip-lights.html (https://www.ledhut.co.uk/led-strip-lights.html)

Dave G

Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: dannyboy on October 11, 2017, 09:15:22 PM
Talking of dimming LED's - came across these earlier today whilst researching the subject, (I am a bit like npn) -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LightDims-Light-Dimming-Sheet-covers-Original-Strength-Minimal-Packaging/142517568303?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LightDims-Light-Dimming-Sheet-covers-Original-Strength-Minimal-Packaging/142517568303?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649)

I have ordered a packet, (from USA),  as I have some LED's that will require, well ....... dimming.  :)
@newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: themadhippy on October 11, 2017, 09:46:49 PM
Quote
As mentioned above LEDs not great at dimming.
Absolute rubbish,leds can be dimmed just as well as normal tungsten lamps with a suitable dimmer,the only area were theres problems is right down at the bottom of the dimming range,leds tend to snap off instead of a gentle fade.Resistive dimmers (pots)  are ok for small led loads but above a watt or 2  pwm dimmers are the way to go.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 11, 2017, 10:07:48 PM
Maybe I am being over cautious.

I am basing this on recent experience with LED bulbs for bedside lamps. The lamps I have are dimmable, LED bulbs purchased were expressly for use with dimmers (others in the range baring the warning “non dimable”).

Appreciate if the application Nobby is after is on bulbs with an order of magnitude lower voltage / current than the mains,  my concern may be unfounded.

Skyline2uk

Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 12, 2017, 10:30:07 AM
Talking of dimming LED's - came across these earlier today whilst researching the subject, (I am a bit like npn) -

[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LightDims-Light-Dimming-Sheet-covers-Original-Strength-Minimal-Packaging/142517568303?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LightDims-Light-Dimming-Sheet-covers-Original-Strength-Minimal-Packaging/142517568303?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649[/url])

I have ordered a packet, (from USA),  as I have some LED's that will require, well ....... dimming.  :)
@newportnobby ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264[/url])


Thanks David, but they are still not adjustable according to mood, background light as, once the stickers are applied, they are still of one brightness.
The sort of thing I am looking at can be found here. The dimmer can be seen bottom right........

http://www.directtrainspares-burnley.co.uk/page33.html (http://www.directtrainspares-burnley.co.uk/page33.html)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: dannyboy on October 12, 2017, 11:01:54 AM

 according to mood,


Well, if you are going to get all moody with me .......  :P  :)

I realise it is from Hong Kong, but this seems to be the same thing http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-8A-LED-Light-Protect-Strip-Terminals-Dimmer-Adjustable-Brightness-Controller-/263154189995 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-8A-LED-Light-Protect-Strip-Terminals-Dimmer-Adjustable-Brightness-Controller-/263154189995) at $1.92c
@newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on October 12, 2017, 11:04:40 AM
Those prices look pretty good, Mick. Wonder if any of those are dimmable? Maybe worth asking.

Being able to vary the overhead light level can make a real difference, especially if like me you like to see the layout with its own street, buildings and yard lighting.

Adds atmosphere to the whole thing.

I'd like to have some coaches lit too but that's quite an investment which will have to wait.

PS: Just 'found' these that say they are dimmable:
https://www.led-supplies.com/led-strips/led-strip-light-colour-temperature-adjustable/led-strip-colour-temperature-adjustable-2300k-4000k/ (https://www.led-supplies.com/led-strips/led-strip-light-colour-temperature-adjustable/led-strip-colour-temperature-adjustable-2300k-4000k/)

Neat find from David - that may be a solution!

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on October 12, 2017, 11:13:05 AM


I realise it is from Hong Kong, but this seems to be the same thing [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-8A-LED-Light-Protect-Strip-Terminals-Dimmer-Adjustable-Brightness-Controller-/263154189995[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-8A-LED-Light-Protect-Strip-Terminals-Dimmer-Adjustable-Brightness-Controller-/263154189995[/url]) at $1.92c
@newportnobby ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264[/url])


Nice find, David. It's exactly the one shown at Direct Train Supplies.
I'd still need a wallwart to bring 240v down to 12v or so.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on February 09, 2019, 03:20:16 PM
Apologies for anyone thinking this is a layout update, but those who know me also are aware my updates are annual or even worse! :-[
Using the excellent and most useful BR Database website......
http://www.brdatabase.info/index.php (http://www.brdatabase.info/index.php)
I spent some time yesterday checking locos allocated to Oxford depot in the 1950/1960s in order to see which of my locos could have been based there and, if not, what the nearest shed was so I could check out ‘visitors’ to the area. I’ve only completed the steam locos as yet but here are the results which, to me, are most encouraging and show I’m buying the right ones (in the main)

Loco types based at Oxford shed which I own @Caz (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=202)

61xx, 57xx, 94xx, 22xx, 14xx, 28xx, Std 5, Grange, Castle, Std 4, 9F and WD

Loco types based at Oxford shed which are required

Hall, 56xx (RevolutioN/Sonic) and 43xx Mogul (DJ Models?)

I’ve other WR steamers based at Didcot, Swindon, Gloucester and Banbury.

As I’m able to model the 4 regions seen in the Oxford area, I have LMR locos based at Banbury, Bletchley and a few more further flung, some SR locos based at Bournemouth, Eastleigh and Brighton and the odd ER loco based on Cambridge and Kings Cross. Some licence is required but the good old ‘football specials’ provide many an excuse.
Next up – the diseasels :D

Note – I have no intention of re-numbering locos to fit the required depots but am just happy the class has been based there at some point in the 20 years specified. I’m easily pleased.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 09, 2019, 03:33:13 PM
will this help mick  ???


http://shedbashuk.blogspot.com/2015/06/oxford-1936-1966.html (http://shedbashuk.blogspot.com/2015/06/oxford-1936-1966.html)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: themadhippy on February 09, 2019, 04:08:16 PM
Quote
and the odd ER loco based on Cambridge and Kings Cross. Some licence is required but the good old ‘football specials’ provide many an excuse.
Or blame it on the varsity line and  university challenge
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Caz on February 09, 2019, 04:09:40 PM

Loco types based at Oxford shed which I own @Caz (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=202)

61xx, 57xx, 94xx, 22xx, 14xx, 28xx, Std 5, Grange, Castle, Std 4, 9F and WD


Thanks for the tag Mick, very interesting stuff and also the additional link from crewearpley40 helps work out when the Fairford locos were around.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 09, 2019, 06:22:50 PM
a few more hints .....


http://shedbashuk.blogspot.com/2015/06/oxford-1936-1966.html (http://shedbashuk.blogspot.com/2015/06/oxford-1936-1966.html)


http://www.fairfordbranch.co.uk/History.htm (http://www.fairfordbranch.co.uk/History.htm)

interesting leeds mrshave modelled this .....

http://leedsmrs.org/fairford.html (http://leedsmrs.org/fairford.html)


Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on February 09, 2019, 08:31:21 PM
@crewearpley40 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3894)
Another great link. Thanks for that. If anything it bears out the recent request for a 61xx tank loco as several were based in Oxford. Note that 'Kimbolted' is only loosely based in that area and not actually in Oxford itself.

@themadhippy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4863)
The Varsity Line is the main reason for me being able to model the odd ER train but, more importantly, the section between Bedford - Bletchley - Oxford as most of my travelling/spotting was done along that part.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 09, 2019, 08:41:02 PM
be great if east west rail was opened - not going into hs2 - but doing work at bucks railway centre had lots of chats with older people who know  / knew up to calvert, verney junction andthe marston vale section ( bletchley bedford )

Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: themadhippy on February 09, 2019, 11:41:11 PM
Quote
be great if east west rail was opened
its is,although the time scale is slipping,the milton keynes- oxford section was supposed to open 2 years ago,last year ,this year,2021,now 2023.
https://eastwestrail.co.uk
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Milton Rail on February 10, 2019, 08:32:21 AM
layout update/pic hopes duly dashed ....  :(
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Caz on February 11, 2019, 06:50:54 PM
a few more hints .....


[url]http://shedbashuk.blogspot.com/2015/06/oxford-1936-1966.html[/url] ([url]http://shedbashuk.blogspot.com/2015/06/oxford-1936-1966.html[/url])


[url]http://www.fairfordbranch.co.uk/History.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.fairfordbranch.co.uk/History.htm[/url])

interesting leeds mrshave modelled this .....

[url]http://leedsmrs.org/fairford.html[/url] ([url]http://leedsmrs.org/fairford.html[/url])


Thanks for the links, the Fairford branch website was how I originally go into doing the Fairford branch and over the years I've been doing Claywell have actually contributed to the site with additional info.  You can see my attempt at Bampton (Oxon) station on my main layout thread and I can run a timetabled service using the original timetables I have for the branch.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 11, 2019, 07:23:15 PM
thanks its an interesting layout caz and thought people may like
a historical read


will research your layout ashavebeen up since  5 am ( work) and tomorrow is my rest day. it was just to aide the previous  modeller   and  jog memories

chris
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room - Disaster strikes
Post by: Newportnobby on June 12, 2019, 01:50:06 PM
Disaster has struck at Chez Nobby in that my mancave (conservatory) has sprung a small leak in the roof. It’s small enough to maybe drop an eggcupful of water on the layout in a 24 hour period of pretty intensive rain, which is what we’ve had for the last 2 weeks at least.

I’ve fashioned a protective covering for the layout by taping some widths of fairly thick polythene together so it’s not as if the layout will get wet, but the problem I’ve found in Leyland is finding anyone who even returns telephone calls let alone find someone to talk the problem through with.

“No job too small” says the advert. Yeah, right. When you do actually find someone to speak to they’re generally “too busy at present/can pop round next year” type of response.

I’m not even sure who I should be talking to anyway. If I talk to conservatory people they’re not interested unless I buy a new one. I did speak to the folks who built it in the first place before I moved in to this bungalow.......
“I know it’s out of warranty but do you do conservatory repairs please?”
“Only if you want something like a new roof”

OK, so I may need a new roof rather than get maybe a small length of rubber sealant replaced but, and I don’t know for sure, access would be required from inside the conservatory meaning the layout would need dismantling totally. :worried: :doh:

With the conservatory being an apex roof perhaps a repair could be done using scaffolding or a cherry picker for access. I just don’t know, and am sure a general UPVC type company wouldn’t be interested so what sort of problem solving person should I be seeking? Any help appreciated as I’m seriously depressed at the moment and thinking the leak will only get worse the longer it is left.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: zwilnik on June 12, 2019, 01:55:54 PM
If it's a very small leak, you might be able to do a temporary repair without too much insanity. From what you've said it sounds like accessibility may be an issue, but we're model railway *engineers*. That means we're sneaky SOBs who can probably think up some sort of Heath Robinson approach that would put sealant in the right place.

Can you post photos of where you think the leak is and area underneath? Might help in thinking up ladder/long stick strategy.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: joe cassidy on June 12, 2019, 02:10:12 PM
Mick,

Could you not add a lake or a pond to the layout to accommodate the drips ?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 12, 2019, 02:20:20 PM


Can you post photos of where you think the leak is and area underneath? Might help in thinking up ladder/long stick strategy.

This 'model railway 'engineer' is 65, gets vertigo stood on a pavement and is shaky on his pins so someone I can pay to do it is the only way forward @zwilnik (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8)
Pics as requested (where I have laid kitchen roll is where the water mainly falls).....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/264-120619141437-78356338.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/264-120619141436-7835631.jpeg)

Luckily I am so slow working on the layout there is no scenery yet and no locos are kept on the layout
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: zwilnik on June 12, 2019, 02:54:54 PM
Right, so my guess (anyone with conservatory building experience can probably guess better ;) ) is that semi-circular end piece is where the leak is originating but with it then dribbling down the inside of the roof, it's a random pattern where the drops will go from there. So a 'water feature' on the layout wouldn't be practical (they're never practical anyway, model railways + real water is usually a recipe for swear words).

It may well be that the water ingress is purely down to the extreme weather, but longer term it sounds like getting someone in to sort the roof is a good plan anyway, but shorter term, protecting the layout and letting you carry on working on it and not worrying about it is something we can probably put our heads together on.

My initial idea, given lack of external work crew availability, low altitude and stability requirements etc. I'm thinking something like this...

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/8-120619145113.jpeg)

Basically an umbrella. The idea is it simply deflects the drops away from the layout to somewhere you can deal with them. As it's pretty much 3 sticks and a 'roof' that can either be hardboard or a polythene covered frame you should be able to assemble it at ground level and fix it to the layout without having to climb on anything :)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on June 13, 2019, 07:40:44 AM
Sympathies Mick.

We had a similar problem in our 'hothouse' that was fixed via scaffolding required during the house repaint. A simple job once access was available. Hope you find someone who can help. A general roofer may be just as good as a plastics 'expert'.

I have previously used a product called Seek and Seal to cure minor leaks. Worked well but not sure if it's still available or suitable for anything beyond a minor problem. The stuff was marketed originally to fix leaks around car windscreens.

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on June 13, 2019, 08:14:28 AM
In the severe flooding of Wollongong in 1998, the creek next to Chez Bealman almost reached our garage door, where the Beal and Castle Eden resides. It didn't, but severe rain 12 months later got in through the roof and did do damage!

Sympathies, Mick. I'd come and help, but I've still in me moonboot  ;)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 13, 2019, 11:15:03 AM
Thanks, Guys.
To state the obvious if water is getting in it can only be through the outside somehow so hopefully I can avoid anyone requiring access from inside.

Sympathies Mick.

We had a similar problem in our 'hothouse' that was fixed via scaffolding required during the house repaint. A simple job once access was available. Hope you find someone who can help. A general roofer may be just as good as a plastics 'expert'.

I have previously used a product called Seek and Seal to cure minor leaks. Worked well but not sure if it's still available or suitable for anything beyond a minor problem. The stuff was marketed originally to fix leaks around car windscreens.

Dave G

That's the way I was going, @daveg (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1087)
There's room to even get a cherry picker round the back if scaffolding presents a problem.
As they say on The Apprentice "the search continues.........."
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 13, 2019, 11:29:55 AM
Did you see my p m mick or try the diy store see if they know anybody
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 13, 2019, 11:38:35 AM
Got your PM thanks, Chris.
Struck out at both the builders merchants and B & Q as they both said they used to recommend certain traders but started getting complaints to themselves if the work didn't meet the customers expectations and it just wasn't worth the hassle. Looks like some computer hours are required.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: dannyboy on June 13, 2019, 12:07:47 PM
@Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) My sympathies Mick. We once had a leak on the 'new' part of our house which was affecting the bathroom ceiling. Originally the 'new' part had a flat roof, which was later converted into a pitch roof, (is that the correct word?), and the roof tiles are actually preformed metal panels. I removed the panel above the leak and could see the water trail on the felt underneath. Eventually I found where the rain was getting in - 3 feet up, then 6 feet to the right and another 3 feet up - 12 feet away! The rain was making its way round a bolt head, so it only needs the smallest of entry holes. Looking at your pictures, @zwilnik (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8)  may well be on the right lines.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: kelstonlad on June 13, 2019, 12:17:34 PM
Commiserations. I've had a similar problem in my convservatory. First time it happened, it still had some kind of warranty - a chap from Anglia turned up with a ladder, scrambled on the conservatory roof with a sealant gun, and just generally sealed up anywhere near the leak. Since then, it's happened again. Like you, I can't find anyone who's interested in spending 30 minutes nipping up there and applying sealant, so I've done it myself (I lay a few old planks over the area, and walk up on a stepladder). My wife stands below holding her breath (at least, that's what she says she's holding, I know she doesn't plan to catch me).

Remember that stuff they used to sell to fix leaky radiators on cars? I wondered if there might something similar that I could just run over the affected area, but haven't ever found anything.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: daveg on June 13, 2019, 12:30:30 PM
The stuff I'd mentioned is in a tin similar to that of 3 in 1 oil and was (surprisingly still is) quite free-flowing.

Dunno but this stuff and similar offered elsewhere (e.g. Amazon) could be a close match:

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/paints-body-repair/adhesives/granville-silicone-sealant-clear-40g (https://www.halfords.com/motoring/paints-body-repair/adhesives/granville-silicone-sealant-clear-40g)

Dave G
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: dannyboy on June 13, 2019, 12:41:00 PM
to fix leaky radiators on cars?

I heard that cracking a raw egg into the radiator would do the job. I don't suppose Mick would fancy throwing half a dozen eggs on to the top of the conservatory?  :-X
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Black Sheep on June 13, 2019, 12:52:15 PM
The roof panels look like corrugated plastic ones, two skins held apart by vertical bits rather than glass.

These can get pierced by heavy hail and then water does start getting inside the panel and potentially into where the frame is not designed to cope with it.

It sounds bizarre but the rubber seals on UPVC don't stop all water, just most of it, the frames are actually designed to have a small amount of water get in, travel down and run out of a drain hole or gap towards the bottom of the frame, if these get blocked up, or any part of the travel gets blocked up, water finds its way out elsewhere. I wonder if something like this might be happening.

I can only echo asking around at any organisations you're part of to see if anyone knows anyone who knows what they're doing.

The other option is to consider a re-roof, many people are having grp formed roofs fitted to conservatories rather than glass or plastic glazing with the aim of taming the extremes of temperature that you get in a conservatory.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on June 13, 2019, 01:03:26 PM
Mick - one idea based on a similar design of conservatory we used to have at our house. Have you been outside to look at the roof? I noticed one time that some of the plastic glazing panels had slipped down a little, the water got in at the top at the crown, and then having nowhere to go, it flowed down from there - it was easy to fix by pushing the panels back into position. Might be worth a look?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 13, 2019, 04:53:21 PM
@Black Sheep (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1230)
The roof is certainly not glass. Double skinned polycarbonate??

@DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745)

A possibility maybe but as you can see from the attached diagram, there's no way I can shin up a ladder to check as it would mean crawling around on the bungalow roof. Unfortunately the position of the leak also makes any sort of access very tricky.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/264-130619164829-784702005.jpeg)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 13, 2019, 05:14:05 PM
did you manage to speak to the chap i pm 'ed you about mick?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 13, 2019, 09:22:13 PM
Sorry. More pressing things to do before the weekend. I may get to do it tomorrow
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 14, 2019, 11:37:40 AM
Might have found someone very local to me so have e mailed them and laid it on thick e.g. pensioner with heart issues blah blah so we'll see what they can do/suggest.

https://cms.pm/uploads/files/penworthamglass.seesite.biz_--_327698062.pdf
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 14, 2019, 11:51:44 AM
mick

i hope your namesake can sort the problem sooner rather than later
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: DCCDave on June 14, 2019, 12:07:51 PM
Mick,

According to the forecasts I've seen the rain is due to slacken for a few days, hopefully it gets fixed during the respite.

Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Malc on June 14, 2019, 04:35:25 PM
Have you checked your household insurance to see if you are covered? If you are, the words,”an insurance job” can make a difference as to wether you get a response or not.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on June 15, 2019, 03:01:53 AM
Looks like it's been a wet week over there - we got it the news here.

Good luck with it all, Mick.  :beers:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 15, 2019, 11:34:43 AM
Looks like it's been a wet week over there - we got it the news here.

Good luck with it all, Mick.  :beers:

Thanks, George, but we've had 2 weeks of persistent rain and other folks have had it worse.
Dry night last night and this morning but rain is due again this afternoon and into tomorrow ::) :rain:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 15, 2019, 11:45:45 AM
Dry down here. Lets hope mick you can get the conservatory fixed and a decent quote
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 20, 2019, 02:33:10 PM
Huzzah!
Finally got the above mentioned chappie round and he can get a couple of his guys to me next week. He appears to know his stuff and talked me through what was needed. All access is from the outside so no dismantling required, and all for the cost of an N gauge loco :)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 20, 2019, 03:04:14 PM
thats a weight off mick's mind
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Innovationgame on June 20, 2019, 06:55:53 PM
thats a weight off mick's mind
And off his conservatory roof!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on June 21, 2019, 03:43:43 PM
Sounds like a great value job! I can feel the relief in your message!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 28, 2019, 08:46:53 AM
Well - it took 2 chaps ½ an hour. They told me of a couple of issues where sealant strip had perished, the top capping with the finials needed sealing and one 'rib' had lifted enough to get fingers underneath but all is now sealed and, hopefully, no more leaks. As there is no rain forecast for at least a week I'll not know for a while but at least it will allow the sealant to set.
Time will tell.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Innovationgame on June 28, 2019, 08:51:53 AM
Well - it took 2 chaps ½ an hour. They told me of a couple of issues where sealant strip had perished, the top capping with the finials needed sealing and one 'rib' had lifted enough to get fingers underneath but all is now sealed and, hopefully, no more leaks. As there is no rain forecast for at least a week I'll not know for a while but at least it will allow the sealant to set.
Time will tell.
PHEW!!!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 28, 2019, 09:11:36 AM
One relieved customer?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 28, 2019, 09:16:24 AM
One relieved customer?

Relieved professionals have had a go at it, but a spell of bad weather will be the true test :hmmm:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: kelstonlad on June 28, 2019, 09:30:20 AM
Glad to hear it's fixed. Spray a hosepipe on the roof to test it?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on June 28, 2019, 10:01:00 AM
Argggh. One of those. Thank heavens I'm allergic to gardening.

And I pay to have the car washed, by the way.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Milton Rail on June 28, 2019, 10:07:20 AM
Great to hear you have found a tradesman willing to sort it out for you, fingers crossed you got it resolved, I have the same annoying issue with a lean too I built onto the side of an outhouse to act as a workshop..... continues to leak no matter what I try, though I have got it down to one small area now as oppose to the entire lengh!  I feel your pain!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: belstone on June 28, 2019, 01:44:04 PM
Glad to hear the source of the leak has been found. It would have been much worse if the workmen came down off the roof and told you they couldn't see anything obvious.

Richard
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on June 28, 2019, 03:17:09 PM
Glad to hear it's fixed. Spray a hosepipe on the roof to test it?

That occurred to me a couple of hours ago and might give it a try early next week when the sealant should have cured off. :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: dannyboy on June 28, 2019, 03:24:50 PM
the sealant should have cured off

Let's hope that does not read "fell off" next week.   :-X
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on June 28, 2019, 05:42:56 PM
Well a nice spell of really warm weather is due so that should help it cure nicely. Great news Mick!
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: railsquid on June 29, 2019, 01:30:17 AM
I'd be a bit worried about those seal ants  :goggleeyes: :o  ???
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Lawrence on June 29, 2019, 05:23:59 AM
I'd be a bit worried about those seal ants  :goggleeyes: :o  ???

Methinks someone has been at the Kirin again  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Innovationgame on June 29, 2019, 06:45:03 AM
I'd be a bit worried about those seal ants  :goggleeyes: :o  ???
I didn't realise that there were marine species of insects. :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: railsquid on June 29, 2019, 07:02:15 AM
You've never seen them swimming around puddles balancing little balls on their antennae?
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 29, 2019, 11:09:15 AM
I'd be a bit worried about those seal ants  :goggleeyes: :o  ???

Most colours are fine, but treat the navy seal ants with a healthy respect :D
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Newportnobby on July 18, 2019, 10:14:37 AM
For anyone still interested/awake we've now had some light rain and some medium rain yet the mancave (conservatory) remains dry. I guess a true test is when it's lashing down and blowing a hooley as it may then blow under something but, so far, all seems fine. :sweat: :)
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: kelstonlad on July 18, 2019, 10:25:46 AM
Glad to hear it's fixed.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Innovationgame on July 18, 2019, 10:33:00 AM
Good news, Mick  :beers:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 18, 2019, 10:57:29 AM
Good to talk mick. Glad the conservatory is dry
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 18, 2019, 11:02:25 AM
For anyone still interested/awake we've now had some light rain and some medium rain yet the mancave (conservatory) remains dry. I guess a true test is when it's lashing down and blowing a hooley as it may then blow under something but, so far, all seems fine. :sweat: :)

Very good news. I hope all will continue to be well.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: keithbythe sea on July 18, 2019, 12:00:29 PM
For anyone still interested/awake we've now had some light rain and some medium rain yet the mancave (conservatory) remains dry. I guess a true test is when it's lashing down and blowing a hooley as it may then blow under something but, so far, all seems fine. :sweat: :)

Great news! Let's hope that further weather tests remain positive.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 18, 2019, 08:37:01 PM
 :hellosign: Echo the above posts, hope all remains dry Mick
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: lil chris on July 18, 2019, 09:15:57 PM
Pleased to here all is well with the mancave Mick.  Mine is a touch warm for comfort at the moment, not bad today only 78f, trains run ok and that's what matters.
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: Bealman on July 18, 2019, 11:11:32 PM
Good to hear, Mick  :beers:
Title: Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
Post by: port perran on July 19, 2019, 08:22:39 AM
Glad it’s fixed  Mick.