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Title: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on April 28, 2020, 02:25:33 PM
As a new member to the group, I thought I would introduce my layout of a lifetime Hillsden, Started some 27 years ago and still not anywhere near finished. The layout is some 15' x 2' on the viewing side with a 15' x 2'6" fiddle yard with 15 storage roads, which in the near future will be enlarged to 17 allowing an extra two for the branch line, which only has one at present. Hillsden is a small town situated somewhere around Yorkshire in the late 1950's / early 60's during the transition period of British Rail, accommodating both steam and diesel.

All of the buildings are scratch built utilising plastikard with the exception of a Ratio Midland signal box.


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/91/8543-280420141355.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=91897)





(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/91/8543-280420141621.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=91898)

I have also a very short video of trains running on the layout on YouTube, if interested please see link below

https://youtu.be/5KkxihW6IvI (https://youtu.be/5KkxihW6IvI)

it is my intention to add more content to YouTube in the future.

Hope you enjoy and hopefully more future contributions
Mike H (Nbodger)



Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on April 28, 2020, 02:34:36 PM
Welcome to the forum Mike.
There are certainly some impressive buildings on that layout of yours and a lovely video. Really smooth running and trains travelling at sensible speeds.
Just one thing Iíd add.............more photographs please  :thumbsup:
Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on April 28, 2020, 04:49:41 PM
Hello Mike, and welcome aboard :wave:
Lots of transition era modellers on the forum.
Agree with P-P - more pics of the layout please!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on April 28, 2020, 05:01:49 PM
Hi there I have to agree those buildings look good especially the mill buildings. Nice video too.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on April 28, 2020, 07:38:59 PM
Welcome to the forum Mike.
There are certainly some impressive buildings on that layout of yours and a lovely video. Really smooth running and trains travelling at sensible speeds.
Just one thing I’d add.............more photographs please  :thumbsup:
Martin


Hello Mike, and welcome aboard :wave:
Lots of transition era modellers on the forum.
Agree with P-P - more pics of the layout please!
Hi there I have to agree those buildings look good especially the mill buildings. Nice video too.

Thank you all for your kind comments, certainly more photo's to follow in due course, similarly I am looking at doing a couple of video's on YouTube, one an aerial view with trains running and a collection of still photo's taken around the layout to give a tour including views you will never see from the front.

I am presently constructing the paved areas around the mill, plus a million of other things, so will post more pictures of this area when near complete.

Lots of detail scenes to do and it all is keeping me busy whilst in lockdown.

Take Care and Keep Safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 28, 2020, 07:57:20 PM
Impressive recreation of a mill town. Captures the town and atmosphere. Did you work from drawings and photos with those buildings please ?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on April 28, 2020, 08:24:15 PM
Impressive recreation of a mill town. Captures the town and atmosphere. Did you work from drawings and photos with those buildings please ?


Before construction all of the buildings have had scale drawings undertaken by myself however, the buildings vary in origin as follows:-

a) all houses are a freelance design, sized from assumptions of typical internal layout and room sizes
b) the large mill is developed from a thumb sized picture of one elevation in a railway book, with dimensions and proportions drawn until they looked a reasonable interpretation
c) the red brick factory and office block central in layout is freelance, however office block is based on a photograph, this was all designed to fit in a specific space
d) the mill building behind the main mill structure with north light roof is totally freelance
e) the bus garage is from a series of photographs taken by me, similarly the cinema next door.
f) all other buildings including the station are freelance

To be fair I have worked throughout my career in the construction industry

Hope this answers your question, happy to provide any further information

Take Care and Keep Safe
Mike H 8)



 
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 28, 2020, 08:29:52 PM
Thanks mike. I remember seeing a larger scale model , tetley mills. Look forward to more.... you certainly answered my questions. Chris
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on April 30, 2020, 10:07:04 PM
Hillsden Viaduct

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-300420213018.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92149)

The above picture is a view of the viaduct from Station Road

The viaduct is built solely of plastikard, both embossed and plain, it is a scale model in elevation of a viaduct that was demolished and replaced with a two span bridge in Sheffield. I was lucky that I had access to the drawings both the original and new structure at work.
The model is actually the second attempt at building it, unfortunately the first incarnation was too narrow, however, a lot was learnt from the mistakes in the first attempt.

This was the first bridge structure completed for the layout of which their are a total of five, no doubt these will appear in future posts



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The above view is taken from the redundant canal looking towards Station Road



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Aerial picture of the viaduct showing its relationship to adjacent roads and buildings

AS you can see there is still plenty of work to do around the viaduct including completion of landscaping (grass, trees and shrubbery), redundant canal construction and road surfacing to name a few items.

You no doubt will also notice that the trackwork is Peco code 80, the layout was commenced either prior or a the introduction of code 50 and to my mind I prefer it as it has the chairs to the rails, but everyone has their respected opinion

Take Care and Keep Safe
Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on April 30, 2020, 11:34:15 PM
You have most certainly captured the atmosphere and character of that part of the world.  :thumbsup:

As the owner of an old layout myself, I'm interested in your trackwork.... may I ask what code yours is, please?

Superb modelling, and like other folk have said, let's see more!  :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Graham on May 01, 2020, 02:03:49 AM
looking good, it may have taken you a while but it is definitely worth it. Lovely video.

Cheers
Graham
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on May 01, 2020, 02:49:29 AM
Having just looked at the video, I'd say that not only are our layouts of around the same age, @Nbodger (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8543) , but I have the same stock!

Yours run a lot smoother than mine, though!

Are they Poole Mk1 coaches? Just wondering if the roof pops off as easily as it does on my collection? I only have to turn some of mine upside down and it falls off!

One thing about the video - the view as the train goes off-scene beneath the bridge would be so much better if the white background under the bridge had the backscene painted on it there as well.

Great stuff, though. looking forward to more on this layout.  :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: weave on May 01, 2020, 04:20:53 AM
Hi Mike,

Great stuff and looking forward to more pics and vids.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 01, 2020, 07:58:54 AM
You have most certainly captured the atmosphere and character of that part of the world.  :thumbsup:

As the owner of an old layout myself, I'm interested in your trackwork.... may I ask what code yours is, please?

Superb modelling, and like other folk have said, let's see more!  :beers:

Hi Bealman

Thank you for your kind comments

The track is all Peco Code 80, ballasted with dry builders sand and then track and ballast painted with RailMatch ďSleeper GrimeĒ

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 01, 2020, 08:02:58 AM
Hi Mike,

Great stuff and looking forward to more pics and vids.

Cheers weave  :beers:



Hi Weave

Thanks for your kind comments, there will be more to come, watch this thread

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on May 01, 2020, 08:15:54 AM
Thanks!

I had a feeling it was Code 80, but you've done such a good job with the ballasting and weathering, I wasn't sure.  :thumbsup:

I continually whinge here about wishing I had used Code 55, but it just wasn't around when I started.

You've made Code 80 look good, though!  :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 01, 2020, 08:17:28 AM
Having just looked at the video, I'd say that not only are our layouts of around the same age, @Nbodger (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8543) , but I have the same stock!

Yours run a lot smoother than mine, though!

Are they Poole Mk1 coaches? Just wondering if the roof pops off as easily as it does on my collection? I only have to turn some of mine upside down and it falls off!

One thing about the video - the view as the train goes off-scene beneath the bridge would be so much better if the white background under the bridge had the backscene painted on it there as well.

Great stuff, though. looking forward to more on this layout.  :beers:

Hi Bealman

The coaching stock is a mixture of old GF Poole stock with the window inserts to Bachmann Farish from China plus some Dapol ďGreeleyísĒ. There are a couple of Poole stock where the roofs do come off easily if mishandled.

Your comment regarding the white background under the bridge is something that is really noticeable on the video, it will be corrected. At present there is no vertical end board to the fiddle yard which will be painted. This is missing because that end of the layout is against the wall (which is white) and without dismantling the board from the layout as it is impossible to fit in situ. Another job to keep me busy.

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on May 01, 2020, 08:20:04 AM
That explains it, then.  ;D  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 01, 2020, 08:21:52 AM
looking good, it may have taken you a while but it is definitely worth it. Lovely video.

Cheers
Graham

Hi Graham

Thanks for your kind comment  :thankyousign:

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 01, 2020, 08:44:21 PM
Burnley Road Bridge - Hillsden


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-010520203131.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92218)

Burnley Road Bridge was the second bridge constructed for the layout and masks the Northern exit to the fiddle yard, this is the only brick arch bridge on the layout and was constructed just over 25 years ago, from plastikard. The bridge is freelance design to fit the space available and carries Burnley Road over the Railway. A Fairburn Tank on a local freight is seen emerging from under the bridge.


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The aerial view shows the location of the bridge and adjacent properties, again the road needs finishing and adjacent landscaping

Hope you enjoy these additional photographs with more to follow in subsequent post

Take Care and Keep Safe

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 01, 2020, 09:01:49 PM
Like I said before I love the mill buildings I want something like that for my layout. My intention though is to fabricate something from a Metcalfe kit. Your viaducts look good too, it is obvious you have skill there building them, access to the drawings helps of course has long as you understand drawings, I don't.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 01, 2020, 09:27:59 PM
Like I said before I love the mill buildings I want something like that for my layout. My intention though is to fabricate something from a Metcalfe kit. Your viaducts look good too, it is obvious you have skill there building them, access to the drawings helps of course has long as you understand drawings, I don't.

I used to model in card as it was a simple median, however my layout starting home was in a damp and drafty garage, so I decided everything had to be constructed in plastic, at the time, 30 years ago there was not many suitable plastic kits available so was forced into scratch building my own. I had many years ago, when I must have been around 12 years old or thereabouts had seen George Slater demonstrating his plasitkard  and fortunately my father bought me a starter pack to practice with.

There is nothing wrong with likes of Metcalf kits, and with a bit of practice can be made to look very different from the out of packet item, by recladding in embossed plastic or other types of brick papers. I would always encourage people to give new methods not in their comfort zone a try.

The methods used depend on how much time you have, kits are generally quick especially if no painting is required, where scratch building in plastic takes a long time some of my smaller buildings have taken 50 hours to complete. so you need to strike a happy median that suits you.

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Jimmy77 on May 01, 2020, 09:39:53 PM
Hi Mike,

You have a great looking layout. The buildings, viaduct, and general architecture look great, very atmospheric and all comes together very nicely.

Cheers,

Jimmy
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 01, 2020, 09:55:52 PM
Hi Mike,

You have a great looking layout. The buildings, viaduct, and general architecture look great, very atmospheric and all comes together very nicely.

Cheers,

Jimmy

Hi Jimmy,

Thanks for kind comments, more to come

 :thankyousign:
Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 02, 2020, 06:35:06 AM
I used to model in card as it was a simple median, however my layout starting home was in a damp and drafty garage, so I decided everything had to be constructed in plastic, at the time, 30 years ago there was not many suitable plastic kits available so was forced into scratch building my own. I had many years ago, when I must have been around 12 years old or thereabouts had seen George Slater demonstrating his plasitkard  and fortunately my father bought me a starter pack to practice with.

There is nothing wrong with likes of Metcalf kits, and with a bit of practice can be made to look very different from the out of packet item, by recladding in embossed plastic or other types of brick papers. I would always encourage people to give new methods not in their comfort zone a try.

The methods used depend on how much time you have, kits are generally quick especially if no painting is required, where scratch building in plastic takes a long time some of my smaller buildings have taken 50 hours to complete. so you need to strike a happy median that suits you.
I began with Metcalf kits and Ratio platforms, but I replaced one of the platforms with a scratch build one from Plastikard.  Then I came across Roger's Wrenton and now I build my buildings from Plastikard as well.  Using Scalescenes cover layers is a quick was to finish the outsides.  I used to be a railway operator who did a bit of modelling, but using Plastikard has turned up my modelling wick a bit.  I do like your approach.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 02, 2020, 08:20:48 AM
I began with Metcalf kits and Ratio platforms, but I replaced one of the platforms with a scratch build one from Plastikard.  Then I came across Roger's Wrenton and now I build my buildings from Plastikard as well.  Using Scalescenes cover layers is a quick was to finish the outsides.  I used to be a railway operator who did a bit of modelling, but using Plastikard has turned up my modelling wick a bit.  I do like your approach.

The good thing about plastic is that you can file it, sand it etc, and generally make adjustments, which you can not do with card eg ďBodge ItĒ

I prefer to paint my models and utilise embossed plastikard as the finishing layers where required.

Take Care and Stay Safe
Mike H  8)

Your neighbour from two stops up the line


Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 02, 2020, 09:10:54 AM
Back to a previous point mike. I have tried creating scalescenes and freestone models kits. It's been therapeutic during lockdown and an escape from my key worker role on the railways. Keep up the good work and look forward to more. Chris
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 02, 2020, 05:10:47 PM
Hillsden Station Footbridge

Please ignore the lighting columns on the platform, they are waiting installation but only when work at the back of the layout is completed, similarly the stations buildings and footbridge have not been glued in place.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-020520165120.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92335)


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-020520165441.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92336)



(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-020520165624.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92337)

The station footbridge is loosely based on Hessle East Yorkshire, I had previously constructed Hessle Footbridge for a club layout so I already had drawings available, however, Hessle has a long ramp to the platform and this could not be accommodated on Hillsden therefore it is constructed with a step access, similarly Hessle was a four span bridge whereas Hillsden has just two.

I am in two minds at the moment whether to rebuilt the bridge or not, the abutments are a bit two chunky, this was due to a mistake when building and had to redesign, similarly the weathering has been overdone, maybe a repaint is required.

 :helpneededsign:

I would appreciate your thoughts on whether I should rebuilt / repaint or not however, the basic design of the superstructure will remain the same.

Take Care and Keep Safe,

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 02, 2020, 05:17:02 PM
Impressive. Laurence @Innovationgame (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091) maybe interested . I would just paint . Structure looks fine. Chris
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 02, 2020, 06:29:19 PM
Impressive. Laurence @Innovationgame (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091) maybe interested . I would just paint . Structure looks fine. Chris
The Hessle bridge has peeling paintork and there's not a lot of paint left.  But that's privatisation for you!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on May 02, 2020, 06:30:01 PM
Hi Mike,

I love your scratch built models, they are stunning  :thumbsup:.

On my layout, which is very much right at the start, I'll have to build at least one road bridge to span 3 tracks plus a couple of tunnel entrances and also a footbridge to span 4 tracks. Ive no idea where to start with these and not in any hurry at the moment, as I want to get the point motors first, get them fitted and then run a few trains round and round for a bit.

Then I'll start asking all kinds of scenic questions, already had a very kind offer from one of the guys to talk directly via phone just to get me going, can't wait to get to that point.

Cheers Derek   
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 02, 2020, 07:20:31 PM
Hi Mike,

I love your scratch built models, they are stunning  :thumbsup:.

On my layout, which is very much right at the start, I'll have to build at least one road bridge to span 3 tracks plus a couple of tunnel entrances and also a footbridge to span 4 tracks. Ive no idea where to start with these and not in any hurry at the moment, as I want to get the point motors first, get them fitted and then run a few trains round and round for a bit.

Then I'll start asking all kinds of scenic questions, already had a very kind offer from one of the guys to talk directly via phone just to get me going, can't wait to get to that point.

Cheers Derek   

Hi Derek
Thank you for your appreciation of my scratch built structures much appreciated.

I believe that when building a layout it is important that you are able to run trains as soon as possible before building the scenery. It gives you a relief valve when scenic items get monotonous and you can soon loose interest if things seem to be taking a long time to build.

The next set of photographs I intend to post will be two road over rail bridges, spanning 3/4 tracks, which may interest you. If you need help when you come to build yours, you know where I am.

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on May 02, 2020, 07:25:23 PM

The next set of photographs I intend to post will be two road over rail bridges, spanning 3/4 tracks, which may interest you. If you need help when you come to build yours, you know where I am.

Mike H 8)

Thanks Mike - very kind of you  :thumbsup:

Cheers Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: pape_timmo on May 03, 2020, 11:50:12 AM
Great looking buildings, really captures the feel of Yorkshire mill towns 👍👍

Cheers, Timmo
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on May 03, 2020, 12:00:28 PM
Excellent modelling.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 03, 2020, 07:37:44 PM
Midgley Road and Scout Road Bridges

Continuing my visit around the layout detailing the various scratch built structures, today offering are the final two bridges out of the five on the layout.

Midgley Road Bridge

This is a single span bridge, which is located just to the North of the station and carries Midgley Road over, the up and down main lines and the goods yard, four tracks in total. Again the bridge is built from my favourite medium Plastikard with embossed stonework to the abutments. Please note they coping stones to the abutments have not been fixed in place, this is why they are misaligned.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-030520192614.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92455)



(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-030520192817.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92456)



(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-030520192946.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92457)

Scout Road Bridge

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-030520193207.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92462)



(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-030520193323.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92464)

This again this is a single span bridge at the southern end of the layout, also covering the entrance / exit to the fiddle yard. The bridge spans both the up and down main lines and the branch line. Construction is same as Midgley Road Bridge as above but this was never intended to be the case. My original idea was to build a two span bridge, with a brick arch over the branch line and cast Iron span over the mainline, but from what I remember I changed my mind and decided to build the less complicated bridge, utilising my design from Midgley Road Bridge. Lazy or what, today I regret this decision but who knows may rebuild one day, but lots to do before then especially at my speed of construction.

Well hope you have enjoyed the series of bridges, the buildings will start shortly

Stay Safe

Mike H. 8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 03, 2020, 07:40:33 PM
Super structurevwork. Have you decided what you will do with the station footbridge ?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 03, 2020, 07:56:57 PM
Super structurevwork. Have you decided what you will do with the station footbridge ?

Not yet, I am minded to repaint, but wont do anything until I am ready to fix the bridge in place. Life is too short and plenty yet to do

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 03, 2020, 08:01:32 PM
For sure. Look forward to more posts mike
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on May 03, 2020, 08:18:09 PM
Hi Mike,

Love the bridges - plenty of those steel span bridges round my way, mostly they took the lines over the roads, but very few took the road over the tracks, itís this design that I want on my layout when eventually itís time for scenics  :thumbsup:

Cheers Derek..
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 03, 2020, 08:19:15 PM
Its been a long week on Hillsden, not just posting on here but I have been doing constructive work on the layout. At last I have finished the road and paving construction around the mill. Well I say finished it all needs is a bit of filler, painting and weathering, but for me it is a mile stone (not a millstone). I now have sore hands and glued up fingers as it is a narrow and awkward place on the layout to work. There were times when I thought I was going to demolish the chimney before the mill was even open for business just like Fred Dibnah did.

Aerial View


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-030520200332.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92465)

Mill Lane

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-030520200452.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92466)

Mill Yard Paving

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-030520200549.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92467)

If you look closely at the picture of Mill Lane you will notice that the road narrows as you go toward the back scene, this was not intentional, just bad setting out of the buildings and retaining wall, however it does give the road some perspective.

You may also notice the retaining wall on the right hand side of the lane has warped outwards slightly, this is because the structure support at the back had to be cut down to fit the buildings in at the higher level. I have secured the wall so it shouldn't move any further, I am now contemplating putting some steel buttresses etc to the front of the wall as a temporary support as a cameo display. With every mistake an opportunity follows

Take care and stay safe

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Mr Sprue on May 03, 2020, 08:25:16 PM
Well if that's Nbodging Mike I'd like to see what you make when your not!  ;) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 03, 2020, 08:29:26 PM
After a few hard days working on the layout, I thought it was time to indulge and run a few trains, here are a couple of pictures of a Peak which has just past under Scout Road Bridge and is now approaching the viaduct before entering the station.

 
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-030520202714.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92469)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-030520202809.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92470)

Hope you enjoy
Stay Safe

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 03, 2020, 08:33:03 PM
Well if that's Nbodging Mike I'd like to see what you make when your not!  ;) :thumbsup:

Plastikard is great you can fill, file and fudge and really correct bodge ups, I've had lots of practice

Cheers, glad you like

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Mr Sprue on May 03, 2020, 09:52:25 PM
Well if that's Nbodging Mike I'd like to see what you make when your not!  ;) :thumbsup:

Plastikard is great you can fill, file and fudge and really correct bodge ups, I've had lots of practice

Cheers, glad you like

Mike H 8)

I use quite a bit of the stuff modeling masters for my tool making.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 03, 2020, 10:15:04 PM
Very nice pics, love your mill buildings like I said before. The bridges are good too, now that is something I can manage to make. I scratch built a couple of girder bridgeís on my old layout ďEast Lancashire LinesĒ, I made one removable too for easy access. I need to make some for this layout, I still have the old ones but not sure if they are the right size.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 03, 2020, 10:25:33 PM
Very nice pics, love your mill buildings like I said before. The bridges are good too, now that is something I can manage to make. I scratch built a couple of girder bridgeís on my old layout ďEast Lancashire LinesĒ, I made one removable too for easy access. I need to make some for this layout, I still have the old ones but not sure if they are the right size.

If not the right size, would it be possible to re-use the abutments and just rebuild the deck construction

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 04, 2020, 03:43:45 PM
On todays tour of Hillsden I feature the row of isolated terraced houses at the Southern end of the town, situated on Sunnybank which is off Scout Road, adjacent to Scout Road Bridge which can just be made out on the far right of the picture.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-040520152020.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92499)

The row of houses are scratch built using plain plastikard and clad in embossed small stone plastikard, painted and weathered, the windows are constructed using microstrip. The design is freelance based on appropriate room layout, assumed room sizes and wall thickness. The Asbestos Cement clad garage to the forefront of the picture is similarly constructed using plastikard and microstrip. The road itself is constructed of 2mm brick embossed plastikard used to emulate stone sett paving.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-040520152946.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92500)

The view above is the rear of the terrace, as can be seen there is a lot of gardening to do, another project for a rainy day, along with sheds, cold frames and greenhouse to build. The property dividing fence are all scratch built using microstrip, one fence is only partially built, the intention is to have a cameo scene of the remainder under construction with appropriate figures if I can source some relevant ones, if not then a pile of fencing rails ready for installation will be modeled along with the odd plank laid up against the partial constructed fence.

Hope you enjoyed the post.

Take care and keep safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on May 04, 2020, 03:47:51 PM
Excellent modelling.
Using scratch built structures certainly add an air of individuality to your layout.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 04, 2020, 04:46:30 PM
Excellent modelling.
Using scratch built structures certainly add an air of individuality to your layout.


As ever thank you for your kind comments.
I am humbled by everybody's comments regarding my layout over the past few days which are much appreciated and spur me on to get things finished.

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 04, 2020, 05:45:24 PM
Yes crash on with the layout, nice houses and the little garage finishes them off.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 04, 2020, 05:48:31 PM
Kind of feeling I'm. Standing outside on that street. Certainly looking forward to more mike
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 04, 2020, 09:21:05 PM
Thought I would have a day off from the railway room, so set about working at my workbench. I decided to spend some time building a prototype bus shelter, as I need three shelters along station road, which is at the front of the layout and would be sat 50mm from the edge, so no bodging then.

I already had a drawing done of what I required, so set about working out how to build it and eventually sort of built it. it took most of the day in between cups of coffee and biscuits (chocolate digestives) to build. This evening went to the layout to see how it would look, found it was too big for the footpath width (plonker should have checked).


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-040520211114.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92518)

Well at least I got the look I was after, just need to modify, in this case rebuild. The picture above looks as though it is lopsided, this is because it is designed for a inclined road. There is also a lot more detail to add before it would have been finished. Better see what tomorrow brings.

Now you all know that I just bodge things and hence the name

Take Care and Keep Safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 05, 2020, 09:15:12 AM
Postman arrived early today with a package of goodies from Squires.

It was always my intention to be able to shunt the goods yard and bay platforms with some form of auto uncoupling, one problem arose as the layout progressed, The operator can no longer see adequately the goods yard area from the main control panel attached to the fiddle yard.

The solution is to build a secondary slave control panel at the front of the layout which covers the station / goods yard area and connected to the main control panel.

On completion of the new panel this will give a new dynamic to the operation of the layout. It will mean that three operators can operate the layout to its full potential or when on my own operating I have a nice shunting layout to play with, a operation I enjoy.

It was always the intention 27 or so years ago to build the layout for exhibition, but years later I doubt that will ever happen but at least I will have fulfilled the operational intention.

You will have probably guessed by now that the package of goodies contains various switches, connectors and wire to make this happen.

What have I done another load of work to do and the layouts nowhere near complete.

Progress on the panel once started will be reported on here but may be a few days before I start, as I have to build the box and mimic board yet.

One day I will be able to play trains to my hearts content

Take care and keep Safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 05, 2020, 04:05:52 PM
We continue the photographic journey around Hillsden, today we take a look at the sweet factory (not Sweat), which is situated on Halifax Road opposite the row of shops and backs onto the towpath of the redundant canal (still to be completed). See aerial view below.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-050520151538.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92586)

This area was the latest building to be construction which was undertaken early 2019; completed in May. It was constructed off the layout as a complete drop in unit, but had many level challenges to fit with the surrounding area, the problems were that Halifax Road is on a slight incline and the redundant canal has a lock to contend with so the whole thing became something of a compromise, I am afraid I failed on most levels and have had to botch areas to make it fit, hope you don't spot them.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-050520153508.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92587)


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-050520153839.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92588)

The main office building was based on photographs of the Rowntree's (Nestle) office in York, adopting the window arrangement and designed to fit in an awkward shaped area which is evident from the aerial view, the remainder of the site was totally freelance design but continued the window layout as a common theme. the office block was a challenge as it was built using slightly different methods of construction to the other buildings, this change was caused by the window type and layout. I would normally build a structure out of plain plastikard followed by an embossed layer, they cut out for the windows and the windows built individually and fitted from behind. On this occasion the starting point was the glazing layer, with the windows and brickwork built up on the glazing layer base. This meant that each side of the building was built flat before gluing it all together with a base, roof and internal floors and a lot of praying that it would all fit together, which I am pleased to say it did. You may notice damage to the leading edge of the office, this was done during installation on the layout and only requires touching up, another job on the list.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-050520155121.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92595)


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-050520155253.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92596)

The above views show the building from the rear (Redundant Canal Side), it is not quite clear from the pictures but the rear of the factory is lower than Halifax Road and has a ramped access from Halifax Road. The lower view is from the roof of the Mill which stands on the other side of the canal.

Apologies for the quality of the photo's the railway room light has caused a reflection on some so it looks as though the photo's were taken into the sun, until the layout has its own lighting system this is going a problem in some areas, yet another job to do.

that all folks hope you enjoyed, now back to constructing those pesky bus shelters  and possible a bit of painting waggons

Take Care and Keep Safe

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 05, 2020, 04:14:34 PM
Sometimes it's natural to see your buildings lit up by the sun  , please do not apologise.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on May 05, 2020, 04:40:58 PM
Wow, Mike. Those pics brought back some happy memories of when I sold flexible packaging to Nestlť/Rowntree/Mackintosh and I was a a frequent visitor to their factories in Halifax, York, Newcastle and Norwich. Just shows how good your buildings are.
 :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 05, 2020, 06:59:22 PM
Just had a worrying thought, yes I know itís dangerous.

I am just coming to realise that to populate Hillsden with people and vehicles is going to cost me a fortune.   :(

When we can venture out again and go to a model shop must remember to take my wife with me, I only have to look at one vehicle in the shop and she will say ďwhy donít you get some more whilst we are here. I will by them for youĒ.

Itís times like this you wish you had done a country layout, without buildings and roads  :doh:

Take care and keep Safe

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 05, 2020, 07:09:04 PM
All good stuff, Mike.  It's a shame that the term bodger has become associated with poor workmanship.  Bodgers were skilled craftsmen who worked with green wood.  Also of poor repute is the term 'hovel'.  A hovel was a bodgers workshop, a sort of lean to tent that badgers could travel around with because they worked exclusively in woodland and not in a fixed workshop.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 05, 2020, 07:16:54 PM
All good stuff, Mike.  It's a shame that the term bodger has become associated with poor workmanship.  Bodgers were skilled craftsmen who worked with green wood.  Also of poor repute is the term 'hovel'.  A hovel was a bodgers workshop, a sort of lean to tent that badgers could travel around with because they worked exclusively in woodland and not in a fixed workshop.

Thanks Laurence

Now I know I have made it  ďa skilled craftsmanĒ working in a ďhovelĒ
Success at last

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 05, 2020, 07:24:45 PM
How many people do you need ? Try northwestern models economy pack, price is good 20 in there
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 05, 2020, 07:27:43 PM
I bought lots of little people of e-bay not sure if they are still available but they were dirt cheap.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 05, 2020, 07:29:42 PM
I bought lots of little people of e-bay not sure if they are still available but they were dirt cheap.
How many people do you need ? Try northwestern models economy pack, price is good 20 in there

Cheers for your suggestions

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 05, 2020, 07:33:28 PM
Mike. Kevin 0161 494 2738. Nw models
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on May 05, 2020, 07:39:04 PM
a sort of lean to tent that badgers could travel around with because they worked exclusively in woodland and not in a fixed workshop.

I knew badgers frequented woodland but I didn't know they camped out or worked in fixed workshops! :no:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 06, 2020, 06:32:22 AM
a sort of lean to tent that badgers could travel around with because they worked exclusively in woodland and not in a fixed workshop.

I knew badgers frequented woodland but I didn't know they camped out or worked in fixed workshops! :no:
Whenever I make a typo, Mick finds a way to capitalise on it.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 06, 2020, 02:25:57 PM
Another day in Hillsden, lockdown has been lifted (not that you would notice in this scene) and we are now able to visit the local shops along Halifax Road opposite the Sweet Factory.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-060520135801.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92710)

the shops comprise a tobacconist, small supermarket, cafť, Hardware Store and Estate Agents, however, the main town centre is to the west of the station and not within the confines of the layout.

Again the shops are of a freelance design and all consist of three floors, some also having an extension to the rear. The buildings again are built from plastikard and were started sometime ago, however the shop fronts were only constructed recently, there is an elevated footway and small retaining wall to the front of the shops, this had to be constructed due to the steep fall of the junction of Burnley Road with Halifax Road and the slight incline of Halifax road to the East (in other words it was a neat solution to a bodge up in design levels and the evolution of the landscape over time

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-060520141056.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92711)

Due to the proximity of other structures it is very difficult to get good photo's as you re limited in the angles you can use

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-060520141317.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92713)

the above picture is the back of the shops showing the access lane, (which still requires finishing) and the extensions to some of the shops to give a larger retail space within. General clutter and dustbins all required to those back yards, and no doubt the odd person and possibly a van making a delivery would help to complete the scene.

I see the sun has been shining on Hillsden again today

Hope you enjoyed the latest tour of Hillsden

Keep well and stay safe
Mike H  8)



Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on May 06, 2020, 02:37:26 PM
Smashing. I actually think the raised footpath and the retaining wall make great features rather than a bodge to cover up the change of level.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 06, 2020, 02:44:38 PM
Smashing. I actually think the raised footpath and the retaining wall make great features rather than a bodge to cover up the change of level.


I do agree it does look rather good and fits in well
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 06, 2020, 05:18:20 PM
Smashing. I actually think the raised footpath and the retaining wall make great features rather than a bodge to cover up the change of level.


I do agree it does look rather good and fits in well
Seconded!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 06, 2020, 09:58:14 PM
Hi All,

A couple of days ago I posted the picture below as a first attempt at a prototype for the three bus shelters required on Hillsden, which ended upon being too large and required modifying.  :doh:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-040520211114.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92518)

Well over the last two evenings I have developed a second prototype that fits, please see photo below (it is sited on Hillsden in its final position, but temporarily held in place with BluTak), it would have been great and fits well but I stupidly glued it the wrong way round and had to pull it apart after it set hard,  :veryangry: damaging the end panel which is bent and doesn't fit against the front wall very well and generally looks a mess in the enlarged photo. The actual model is only 26mm long x 8mm overall, with a 4mm wide end window panel.

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(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-060520213555.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92753)

In this prototype I have thinned the walls down to 20tho from 60tho, which causes a stability issue regarding bending and warping over time, to overcome this I have increased the roof thickness to 40tho plus 20tho asbestos cement cladding, also constructed a 3mm x 3mm solid seat at the base of the internal sides of the walls.

I am now pleased with the size and shape but needs a return wall at the lower end to replicate the upper end (shown in photo), this should make the structure very rigid.

No structure I have constructed has ever caused me so much hassle, which I hope will be worth it.

I can now with confidence  :hmmm:, providing I can stop making stupid errors continue with the three shelters for the layout.

The next posting on the shelters will be the completed ones in place on the layout, that's a promise


Take Care and Keep Safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 06, 2020, 10:01:34 PM
All part of the learning. It's pretty good mike. I do like the pavements too not quite hovis country scene stuff but a real northern mill town is taking shape
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 07, 2020, 08:18:29 AM
Hi Mike

I'm not sure wether this will be helpul or a hinderance, but here's a picture of a triple bus shelter in Coventry from the post-war period, taken from the pavement side.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/3091-070520081321-928102198.jpeg)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 07, 2020, 09:56:50 AM

I'm not sure wether this will be helpul or a hinderance, but here's a picture of a triple bus shelter in Coventry from the post-war period, taken from the pavement side.


Hi Laurence,
Thank you for posting the photo, which is very similar to my original concept ie a fully enclosed shelter, although I had entrance and exit at each end, that was the first prototype, however, was not clear in the photo I posted. As stated I made a fundamental error of not checking the pavement width (lazy on my part) which meant the shelter was far too big, I had two options 1) locally widen the footpath to create a bus bay type scenario or 2) redesign the shelter to fit. I chose the latter option which has now become a open type shelter. The design of the shelter is to represent a precast concrete shelter, which may not be apparent from my photograph as there are certain elements that have not been added.

Again thanks for your interest, which is much appreciated 

Take care and keep Safe

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 07, 2020, 11:30:25 AM
Midland Red had pre-cast conctete shelters, rather like your's, usually, although not exclusively, in rural areas.  The ones with the front side covered, as is your's, generally had no ends, just a front and a roof.  The ones with ends, generally had a back but no front.  But you can obviously mix and match because I'm sure that each bus company used different standards.  For examply, Coventry Corporation used exclusively metal pole construction for bus stop poles and shelters, whereas Midland Red used esclusively pre-cast concrete for their poles and shelters.  So I wouldn't worry too much about adhering to a particular prototype.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 07, 2020, 12:27:39 PM
Midland Red had pre-cast conctete shelters, rather like your's, usually, although not exclusively, in rural areas.  The ones with the front side covered, as is your's, generally had no ends, just a front and a roof.  The ones with ends, generally had a back but no front.  But you can obviously mix and match because I'm sure that each bus company used different standards.  For examply, Coventry Corporation used exclusively metal pole construction for bus stop poles and shelters, whereas Midland Red used esclusively pre-cast concrete for their poles and shelters.  So I wouldn't worry too much about adhering to a particular prototype.

Thanks again Laurence,

The original intent was to make the shelters open ended, which developed due to long term  stability issues with the model without making the walls a unsightly thickness of say 2mm, hence had to put a return wall in as a compromise on my final prototype.

If my memory serves me well I recall precast shelters in areas of the Calder Valley and remember a shelter in Mytholmroyd on the Halifax bound side, the Hebden Bridge side had a stone built shelter, no doubt somebody will prove me wrong, but I was only eight at the time and thatís 50 plus years ago.

Thanks again for your contribution

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 07, 2020, 12:30:07 PM
Mytholmroyd has a bus shelter style structure on platform 1
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 07, 2020, 12:34:40 PM
Mytholmroyd has a bus shelter style structure on platform 1

It does now as the original L&Y building got condemned, which was an interesting building going from road level up to the platforms on the viaduct. I remember being on the platform watching Mallard go through on a charter train in the early sixties

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 07, 2020, 01:58:26 PM
Its another day, suns shining and we continue our tour of Hillsden, Today we visit the cinema, however it is too nice outside to go in and sit in the dark watching the latest blockbuster, I understand a Hard Days Night is being screened at present. no doubt it wont be too long before this fine looking building is converted to a bingo hall, or dare I say it a supermarket

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-070520133910.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92832)

The cinema is based on the one in Hessle, East Yorkshire (see photo below) and guess what it is now. The original is based on a area of flat land, however, on Hillsden it is located on Burnley Road, which is inclined, this has necessitated it requiring to be elevated with access steps to the front, the steps still need a little minor adjustment where the steps join in with the pavement.

Again as all my scratch built structures the cinema is constructed of various thicknesses of plastikard and microstrip

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-070520135038.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92833)

The actual cinema was photographed back in November 2003 and the model was constructed shortly afterwards, but was only fixed in its permanent position on the layout recently, along with the construction of the steps, them pesky different levels giving problems again, how I wished I had built a flat layout in the middle of nowhere, it may even have been completed by now.

Hope you enjoyed todays trip and you visit again soon

Keep Well and Stay Safe

Mike H 8)


Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 07, 2020, 02:10:55 PM
P.S.  It's now the Dove House Hospice collection centre.  Oh how the mighty are fallen!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 07, 2020, 08:06:45 PM
This evening after a hard days bodging I ran a few trains on Hillsden, one has to occasionally indulge

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-070520195828.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92848)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-070520195933.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92849)

Above is A4 Silver Fox passing under Midgley Road Bridge, sadly relegated to a freight train, but the loco is far to clean, although a little dusty, certainly needs reallocating to Top Line Duties, the Deltics have not yet appeared on Hillsden and A1/A2 and A3 still run.

I really need to do another video of the layout

Take Care and Stay Safe

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 08, 2020, 01:43:01 PM
 :hellosign:.  :greatpicturessign:
    Looking really splendid Mike, West Yorkshire is mostly hilly so a very good representation, as a Yorkshire man  I approve   :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
   stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 08, 2020, 03:00:37 PM
:hellosign:.  :greatpicturessign:
    Looking really splendid Mike, West Yorkshire is mostly hilly so a very good representation, as a Yorkshire man  I approve   :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
   stay safe regards Derek

Derek,
 :thankyousign:

Thank you for your approval

Stay safe and well
Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 08, 2020, 03:41:55 PM
Today we continue our journey North, slightly up the hill from our stop off point yesterday, the cinema and along Burnley Road, the next structure is the Hillsden and District Omnibus Companies bus depot, rather bereft of bus's today, and all the doors are closed, perhaps it is a Bank Holiday, following further along the road is a row of six two storey stone built terrace houses.

Again all of theses structures are scratch built utilising plain and embossed plastikard and microstrip for the windows.

It is at this point we meet the baseboard joint and Burnley Road begins to level out after the steep incline from its junction with Halifax Road.

Bus Depot

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-080520151409.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92896)

The bus depot is based on the EYMS depot in Elloughton, East Yorkshire, this is next to the Half Moon in which we frequently go to for Lunch and a pint, unfortunately as we all know all public houses are closed at the moment

The original building is built on at grade land, and had to be modified to fit its proposed location which needed appropriate retaining walls to give a level platform for the buses and entrance to the building. The building itself is a faithful representation of the original structure.

The majority of the model was built a few years ago, but lacked a roof, doors and windows to the ancillary building and brickwork to the retaining / boundary walls, these were completed 2019 and the structure finally fixed in place this year. The sign is temporary and will be replaced one day with a proper signboard, similarly the cinema in yesterdays post.

Terrace Houses

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-080520153338.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92897)

This row of terrace houses is of the typical two up and two down with an yard to the rear accessed by the "ten foot" next to the bus depot. These buildings were a challenge to get the levels correct due to the incline of Burnley Road, if you look t the steps into the doorways you will realise I went slightly wrong  :doh:. Again built some time ago and fixed to the layout earlier this year.

Hope you enjoyed todays trip

Keep safe and well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 08, 2020, 03:47:18 PM
I have enjoyed today's trip mike. Love seeing terraced houses that are on a slope rather than the commercial offerings that are for that flat look and they take into account the northern townscapes
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 08, 2020, 07:08:21 PM
I have enjoyed today's trip mike. Love seeing terraced houses that are on a slope rather than the commercial offerings that are for that flat look and they take into account the northern townscapes


Glad you enjoyed todays trip.
For me and I may be wrong but slopes in urban environments are not often modelled. It is a challenge to model buildings to fit into this type of landscape, levels at different sides of the structure and quite easy to make a mess of, even if you measure and draw out properly. I have made many mistakes in mine, but think to some extent I have got away with them. The houses in the picture a case in point two of them are too high, you can tell by the steps. In my case, I knew a level I was starting from but the footpath is now some 2 or 3mm higher than that point ( 12 to 18" in real life, and a big difference in N), not an excuse as that didn't make a difference in the case, those two buildings are just constructed from the wrong datum.

I don't really regret the layout as it is and would encourage others to vary the levels via an open baseboard approach so road, structures etc,  can be accommodated both below and above the level of the railway. I appreciate that many people only have a small amount of space and not a whole room like myself which limits what they can accommodate.

apologies for rabbiting on

Keep Safe and well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 08, 2020, 07:13:30 PM
My point is . You have created what you like and see. Is a northern mill town on the flat ? Not with those cotton mills etc. Realistic and suggest keep going
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 08, 2020, 07:14:49 PM
I love different levels on a layout, in the real world everything is not flat apart from possibly in Holland. I intend having different levels on my new layout, I have started by having two track levels. Keep up the good work and Keep Safe.
Lil Chris
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 08, 2020, 07:15:42 PM
Well it has been another bright and sunny day in Hillsden, no rain yet, doesn't bother the population of Hillsden as they don't have any garden yet (still to be built)

Lurking out of focus in the photos I have posted recently there is a English Electric Type 3 (Class 37 to younger readers), well I thought I would bring it up close today, posing in strong sunlight which is reflected on the camera lens

Hope you enjoy

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Stay Safe and well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on May 08, 2020, 07:22:51 PM
This is all looking very nice indeed.
A lovely photograph of the EE Type 3 looking just as I remember them in the 60s.
And as for multi levels, slopes and hills on a layout, I totally agree in that it really brings a model to life.
Keep the updates coming.

Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 09, 2020, 01:51:56 PM
Its Saturday and time to take a train ride from Hillsden Station, well here we are at the bottom of Station Road at its junction with Halifax Road, itís a long walk up that hill to the station, now wishing we had caught the bus. Looks like our train is already waiting in the bay platform, platform 1.

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As you look up Station Road, the road is nearing completion possibly a little more weathering then a final coat of matt varnish to both road and footpath. There will be three bus stops with shelters on Station Road which are now under construction, probably a couple of weeks before they get installed (prototypes were shown in an earlier post). Weathering requires completion to the stone retaining wall and the grassland to the front of the wall requires the landscape contractors in.

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The main station building was only constructed around two years ago, as previous buildings this is scratch built from plastikard. The design is totally freelance, but there have been previous buildings on the site, both consigned to the bin including a modified Kestrel kit, with new roof. At present the building is not fixed in place, this is to prevent damage whilst finishing areas to the rear of the layout. You will no doubt notice that the building does not sit flat on the platform at one end, this needs a little fettling, the problem is the lengths of the canopy supports need adjustment, there is obviously a level difference between the platform and the window sill I used when building the structure. All will be sorted (bodged) before final fixing.

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This photo gives a general view across to the island platform building situated on platforms 3 and 4


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The above photo is a general view of the island platform building, of same construction as the main building but with a different canopy arrangement. Again, a little bodging before finally fixing the building in position.

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Here we have a general view taken from just above Midgley Road Bridge showing the station layout and beyond from the North. The footbridge has a been detailed in a previous post. The platforms were built again from plastikard and would you believe the paving was individually scribed and each slab painted a slightly different shade, I must have been mad but they were the very first structures to be built for the layout. I will probably give the paving a dark wash to bring out the slab detail more and at the same time tone down the colour. If I was building today, they would have been finished quite differently. I have seats, lighting columns and station nameboards to add, which are all complete and waiting fixing when safe to do so, I can be a bit ham fisted at times. Similarly, the usual platform clutter and some little people need adding.


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Above is a scene that is taken from the fiddle yard given another perspective of the station, it also shows quite clearly the baseboard joint which goes straight through the platforms.

Hope you have enjoyed todays tour
I've now spent too much time rabbiting on and taking photo's, I missed our train  :doh:

Keep Safe and Well

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 09, 2020, 02:00:43 PM
Mike. Can I suggest looking at freestonemodel.co.uk  ,jerry stocks posters you maybe interested in. I have used his and they are pretty friendly, reliable  and well stocked. Chris
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 09, 2020, 02:31:48 PM
Mike. Can I suggest looking at freestonemodel.co.uk  ,jerry stocks posters you maybe interested in. I have used his and they are pretty friendly, reliable  and well stocked. Chris


 :thankyousign:

Chris,

Thanks for that I will take a look

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 09, 2020, 07:16:21 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
  Many thanks Mike all looking superb 👍
     stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 09, 2020, 07:22:14 PM
Saturday trainspotting on Hillsden


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Original Poole Farish Black 5 passes through the station with coal empties

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Further along the line crossing the viaduct after leaving the station area

This last picture was taken from the fiddle yard hence no backscene, perhaps for future I should consider a temporary backscene for these types of shots.

Enjoy

Stay Safe and Keep Well

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 10, 2020, 12:25:40 PM
My wife shouted "Put the kettle on", so I obliged


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Stanier 8F shunting in the Goods Yard on Hillsden

Stay Safe and Keep Well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 10, 2020, 12:37:22 PM
Help, I am now in trouble my wife has just found out how much I have spent on the railway during lockdown, so she has now taken to spending lots more on line shopping for clothes. I have carefully advised her that it is pointless buying new clothes at the moment as we cant go out. However, she still continued, I must be loosing my persuasive touch.

Now let me think can I turn this to my advantage, those new Farish Thompson's look rather nice.

Keep Safe and Well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 10, 2020, 03:41:32 PM
Today tour of Hillsden takes us further along Burnley Road, the incline is now much flatter and easier to walk and we have to the right hand side of the road further terrace houses (a total of 16 modeled)
First, we have four rows of houses end on forming two streets and three 10 foots to provide access to the rear of the properties.

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The streets to the front of the houses still require the street lights, these are gas lamps and are awaiting painting before installation. Note all these properties have outside WC facilities. No doubt they have a paraffin lamp inside to keep the pipes from freezing in winter and give a little light during the night. I remember them well.
These were very early buildings constructed for the layout and like all other structures they are scratch built with plastikard.

Further along we have a row of terrace houses facing Burnley Road, there are eight properties, each with the luxury of a walled front garden but still have yards to the rear with access via the 10 foot. The end house is lucky they have a garden to the side and must have won the pools as they also have a garage, but no car in sight.

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Again, these were early buildings but if I remember well the roof was added a couple of years later, and caused a few problems fixing it. These were again scratch built in plastikard.

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The above picture shows the terrace houses looking down virtually the full length of Burnley Road to its junction with Halifax Road. The industrial structures to the right of the road will be the subject of future posts.
While doing a little tidying up I discovered some doors and windows that I had built and not used for some reason, I have added the picture below to give a little more visual detail on how they were built from layered plastikard and microstrip


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That is all of the houses on the layout covered, if you have any questions on their detailed construction, I will be only too glad to answer
Hope you enjoyed todays posting

Keep Safe and Well

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 10, 2020, 06:20:00 PM
The end house is lucky they have a garden to the side and must have won the pools as they also have a garage, but no car in sight.
We had a garage but no car.  In fact, almost no-one had a car.  But we didn't call it a garage.  It was known simply as 'the shed'.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 10, 2020, 10:49:25 PM
Not been a good day today on the layout, first job was to weather the footpaths along mill lane, found I could not use my usual method as the lane is a cramped area and my hand wouldnít fit, broke off the mills entrance canopy.  :doh:

Adopted another method to undertake the weathering, made a bit of a pigs ear of it, not happy   :( hopefully rectified this evening, will see in the morning.

Next decided to paint some plasterwork around the mill green with acrylic paint prior to applying various scatters, couldnít get the top off the paint, eventually did but ended up dropping the bottle on the work bench, green paint everywhere,  :censored: cleared up the best I could, nothing spoilt, except I thought I had taken up gardening with my green fingers.

Finally undertook the painting job, when completed went to put cap on bottle, all slipped out of my hands, paint on the floor and on a box of possessions in storage.  :veryangry:

Gave up at this point and went back in the house before I caused anymore damage.

Hereís to a better day tomorrow

Stay Safe and well

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on May 10, 2020, 11:07:25 PM
Yeah, we get days like that, eh.

You did the right thing - leave it and come back to it later.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 11, 2020, 06:35:16 AM
I find that no matter how gloomy things seem, it usually doesn't feel quite as bad the next morning.  Chin up!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: pape_timmo on May 11, 2020, 12:41:35 PM
Done that many a time, best to just walk away and come back to it another day.

Fantastic looking layout.

Cheers, Timmo
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 11, 2020, 12:54:05 PM
After yesterdayís disastrous day, I am happy  :) to report that my gloom has been lifted  ::).  The weathering to the footpaths rectified yesterday evening, doesnít look too bad, so leaving as is.

I have now given the road and paved areas around the mills a second base coat, now leaving to properly dry for 24 hours, then hopefully tomorrow I can start to weather it, again hoping for no more disasters.

Reminder to self:

ďI should be more careful when working on or near the layoutĒ

Keep Safe and Well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 11, 2020, 03:13:50 PM
Well on todayís tour I thought we would go trackside and take a look around the Goods Yard. Again, as previous postings all of the buildings are scratch built using plastikard with the exception of the Signal Box which is a ratio kit (this will appear in a later visit)
The overall layout of the yard can be seen in the aerial photograph below.


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If I was designing the goods yard today, I would have laid it out differently, but the layout does suit my anticipated way of working it when shunting. The thing I regret most is not providing a line for coal handling, the only place this could go now would be at the signal box end of the siding that contains the goods shed, but that would comprise the goods operation and not very practicable, however, I may use this as a visual solution. It is not desirable or practical to relay the area at this point in time, but who knows when the layout is complete.


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The goods shed is from a drawing past onto me, and not freelance as other structures, similarly the weighbridge office. These structures were some of the first structures built for the layout along with the retaining wall, which in essence provides support to business properties along Burnley Road. Again, if building today I would have enlarged the goods shed to twice its current length with two sets of loading doors to better reflect the area served.
After taking the photographs and viewing for the first time I noticed a buffer had fallen off the coal wagon that is in view, another little job to add to the growing list.


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The above photo shows the full length from the entrance of the yard. The entrance road which, comes down from Burnley Road, opposite the bus depot.

The yard requires a small crane adding, possibly coal staitheís (see above notes), weathering of road surface, packages and general clutter plus some form of nominal lighting to the area.

Thatís all for now, hope you enjoyed todays visit.

Keep safe and well

Mike H  8)


Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 11, 2020, 05:03:41 PM
Those DMU's are slowly taking over local services from steam at Hillsden, only wish they were as reliable

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Forty eight hours on from Saturday afternoon and the working timetable is identical, Stanier Black 5 passing through the station on coal empties and Class 108 DMU awaiting departure.

Enjoy

Stay safe and well

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 11, 2020, 05:51:53 PM
Thanks for the tour, Mike.  I particularly like the goods shed.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 11, 2020, 05:58:25 PM
Just needs porters, passengers, luggage, trolley, seats mike on those platforms
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 11, 2020, 07:11:41 PM
Just needs porters, passengers, luggage, trolley, seats mike on those platforms

Totally agree, I already have the seats, station signs and lights, just not fixed yet, awaiting until I have finished doing the bulk work to the back of the layout ie when it should be safer to put in place.

Other detail items generally still to be purchased, not just for the station but all of the layout, more expense  :doh:

Stay Safe and well

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 11, 2020, 07:19:12 PM
Try scenecraft  knightwing, freestonemodel.co.uk
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 11, 2020, 11:23:47 PM
 :thankyousign:

Today is two weeks since I took the plunge and joined the forum and would like to thank all those have read my exploits to-date. You have certainly helped to bring my enthusiasm back to finishing the layout and my wife would like to thank you too as she has hardly seen me over the last fortnight as I spend most of my time in the railway room.

My regret is not joining earlier and been able to share the main construction of the layout and buildings with you, but sorry to upset you but there is still plenty to write about.

Once we are out of lockdown and I can start attending the railway club again, providing they trust me to build a few structures for the layout, I will be able to share the details with you

Thank you for your encouragement and support, I hope my posts have entertained you, hereís to the next two weeks and more.

Take care and keep safe

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 11, 2020, 11:34:58 PM
Yes nice to have you along Mike, keep up  the modeling, love your terrace houses, I do not know how I can compete with those.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 12, 2020, 12:32:33 AM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:
   Absolutely enjoying the tours of Hillsden, thanks for sharing & bringing memories of the old West Riding mill towns. Superb modelling, look forward to more.
      stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Chris Morris on May 12, 2020, 06:33:25 AM
Very nice. Captures the feel of things very well. Thanks for all the posts on this layout, most enjoyable.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 12, 2020, 08:32:38 AM
And as you are just up the line, we might be able to arrange an exchange visit when times allow.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 12, 2020, 09:32:00 AM
And as you are just up the line, we might be able to arrange an exchange visit when times allow.

Thanks Laurence,

I will look forward to that, however, I will be one of the last to be released from lockdown so may be some time off.

Stay safe and well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 12, 2020, 04:15:57 PM
Well todays tour is a short one, but will take quite a time to walk there from the station, there are no visible roads to this part of Hillsden, one of the far away corners of the layout, we could follow the track bed and climb up the slope of the cutting, but we would run the risk of being prosecuted for trespass.

Today we look at one of those corner fillers, this time it is located at the northern end of the layout, right at the front, at the top of a deep cutting.

It is a factory of some description (dependant on what clutter I add), built of brickwork and asbestos cement cladding, bounded by pre-cast concrete fencing.

 
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The building is a freelance design, designed to fit the awkward corner space, and was the first factory building to be built for the layout. Again, totally built from various thicknesses and finishes of plastikard. The asbestos cement cladding is supplied as 4mm scale but looks quite at home in 2mm.


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I will probably add a waggon being loaded / unloaded be a forklift with a couple of workmen hanging around, plus other bits of clutter. As I have said before the whole layout needs various cameo scenes adding, then I can post a few more pictures to entertain.

Hope you enjoyed the somewhat short visit today, wont be too long before we get to the mills.

Keep Safe and Well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 12, 2020, 04:28:14 PM
The Old and the New which is which?

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There are around 43 years between the purchases of the Ivatt 2MT's, the original Minitrix purchased around 1977 cant be sure of the exact date and cost a staggering £17.47 from a model shop in Leeds, the Farish loco was purchased this year. The Minitrix loco still runs but now struggles to pull anything, which I believe is a common problem.

hope you enjoyed the bit of nostalgia  :)

Stay safe and well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on May 12, 2020, 08:27:22 PM
Hi Mike,

Iíve really been enjoying the Ďtoursí your modelling skills are top notch.

Looking forward to more updates ..

Cheers Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 12, 2020, 09:20:08 PM
Well not been a bad day today, after disaster Sunday or was it Saturday, all days blend into one at the moment.  :)

Today I have finally weathered the paved area around the goods yard, tonight I am happy with the results, check if I still agree in the morning then give it a coat of Matt Varnish to tone down. It now looks completely different to the photoís yesterday. As with a lot things on the layout there is always a tale of woe.

This paved area is constructed of ratio stretcher bond brick sheet laid as sett paving, well just before I joined the forum I set out to paint and weather the area, making sure the area was clean, vacuumed, brushed and wiped with a clean damp cloth, then vacuumed again. Then I painted it, looked fine, after drying gave it a weathering wash. WHERE do those pesky bits of dust come from when you paint. Anyway the upshot is that it was a mess  :veryangry:

I had to clean it up which included a bit of light sanding to remove those pesky bits, hence detail of the brickwork was totally lost defeating the object, anyway it looks reasonable to day so I am happy  :)

This evening I have been continuing with the bus shelters so a good day  ::)

Stay safe and keep Well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on May 12, 2020, 10:46:37 PM
Yes, I have one of those Minitrix Ivatts that I'm quite fond of, but as you say, it doesn't pull much.

I have some OO corrugated sheets on my layout too - a Merit product I bought in the 1960s, which came in a matchbox sized container!

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Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 13, 2020, 03:47:14 PM
Well today after yesterdays long walk, I decided we should take the bus as we are going to the diagonally opposite side of Hillsden to yesterdays outing. We are today at the South East corner of the layout and again we have one of those corner infill structures. This one is situated on Scout Road at nearly the highest point in Hillsden. Here we have the pie factory which is only depicts the back of the factory and access is not part of the layout. The factory sits right on the highway boundary of Scout Road

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As per others the building is constructed of various thicknesses of plastikard both plain and embossed, the extractor fan grills are constructed from microstrip. the building consists of a Asbestos cement clad building with a dado brick wall of various height to suit the incline of Scout Road.

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the front view pictures are from the row of terrace houses on Sunnybank and the roof of the adjacent mill building.

Further ork to do, Scout Road needs a further wash coat followed by matt varnish, the chimney on the backscene either needs removing or repainting, looking at the photo's it does look a bit grotesque. Also the factory is lacking a name board, all will be sorted in due course.

Sorry for the short trip today, it has been one of those days and I seem to have spent too much time trying to get one of the photo's the correct way round.  :doh:

Anyway thank you for reading

Stay safe and keep well

Mike H  8)



Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: mika on May 13, 2020, 04:32:28 PM
Wow, Mike!
What a wonderful layout you have created.
Thanks for sharing.

Best,
Michael
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 13, 2020, 04:54:29 PM
Wow, Mike!
What a wonderful layout you have created.
Thanks for sharing.

Best,
Michael

Michael
 :thankyousign:

Thank you for your kind words.
Very happy to share the layout

Stay Safe and well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on May 13, 2020, 05:02:51 PM
This is indeed a lovely layout Mike.
Please do keep the updates coming.

Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 13, 2020, 06:23:09 PM
Love that factory. Do you do low relief versions ? Been following the links mike and that must have kept you occupied
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 13, 2020, 06:46:25 PM
Love that factory. Do you do low relief versions ? Been following the links mike and that must have kept you occupied

Sorry but I am not sure what you are asking regarding ď Do you do low relief versionsĒ , are you asking if I do commissions, if so then sadly no, as I have plenty to do finishing my layout and also our club layout which is in its very early stages.

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 13, 2020, 06:53:49 PM
No I meant a low relief warehouse would look good on your layout. That's what I meant. Love your structures
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 13, 2020, 07:06:54 PM
No I meant a low relief warehouse would look good on your layout. That's what I meant. Love your structures

Thanks for clarification, apologies for misinterpreting your statement. All of the buildings are completed, no big spaces to fill. Todayís offering is in effect low relief and there is another small factory that has not appeared in a post as yet which is low relief.

I have only small sheds etc to build, thank goodness, itís been a long haul.

Stay Safe and well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 13, 2020, 07:19:35 PM
No need to apologise mike. Looking good thus far
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 13, 2020, 11:16:00 PM
Well end of another day on Hillsden, and quite a few positiveís and no real dramaís except for trying to post a photo earlier that would not upload the correct way round to my gallery, so uploaded a different version which in the final post ended up with just the adrdress, even though on preview it was there, stopped wasting time and gave up.  ???

When I looked at yesterdayís efforts of weathering to the goods yard, I was reasonably satisfied with the work, so called it quits and gave it all a coat of matt varnish just need some detailing items plus yard crane to finish  ::)

Also started to weather the paving around one of the mills, at first I wasnít too happy   :(,  however applied some dry brushing with various shades now well on way to happy, just needs a bit more work tomorrow  ::)

This evening I have sat at the workbench building the bus shelters (all three), nearly finished the building, just need some detailing adding with microstrip, these should be fully built tomorrow. On completion I will post an update photograph to Nbodgers Workbench.  ::)

When the shelters are painted and fixed in final position, will post as promised a photo on here, hopefully in the next few days.

From the mess of the prototype (see earlier post) to the final ones for the layout, I am very pleased with the outcome  :claphappy: unless of course I make a mess of them in the paint shop.

Pleased today not had to use  :veryangry: or  :censored:

Stay Safe and well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 14, 2020, 09:48:38 AM
Pleased today not had to use  :veryangry: or  :censored:

Days like that can be a :censored:

:no:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 14, 2020, 05:15:23 PM
Today we continue our walk around Hillsden at the junction of Burnley Road and Midgley Road where the fruit and veg wholesalerís is situated.

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Again, it is a lovely sunny day in Hillsden as the sunlight reflects on the camera lens (I really need to get some proper lighting for the layout installed instead of relying on the room lighting, which only partially covers the layout). This photograph was taken from the goods yard and shows the retaining wall to the yard.

This building is to a freelance design as is the retaining wall, both are built as my usual methods from various thicknesses of plain and embossed plastikard, plus a small amount of microstrip, painted and weathered using Humbrol enamel.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-140520171303.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93328)

The above photo is taken from Midgley Road, which the building is accessed from, the yard is basically hardcore covered. What is not seen is at the southern end of the building is an office and foot access from Burnley Road and bounded by a precast concrete fence, which still requires weathering.

You may notice on the far right of the picture is another stoned area with two unpainted white metal cars, this area is a triangular shape and is the last area of development on the layout, the intention is to make this a used car dealers, with a early site cabin type structure as a office. The dealers will be ďWormwoodsĒ the name taken from Matilda by Roald Dahl book, if you have read it you will understand why.

The fruit and veg wholesalers to finish the scene require a small wagon / van being loaded or unloaded, possibly a fork lift truck, pallets and boxes of fruit and veg with some in the building as the main doors have been modelled open. Also pacing to the office is required.

At the road junction there is a small area of grassland, which is still bare plaster at the moment, the landscapers will soon be moving in and will be grassed with a mature tree setting the scene along with possibly a bright red phone box or letter box (or maybe both)

Well thank you for joining me on todays tour around Hillsden, hope you have enjoyed our walk in the sun.

Stay safe and well

Mike H 8)
 


Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 14, 2020, 10:44:54 PM
Itís been a odd day today, on waking this morning I had a clear plan of what I wanted to get done on Hillsden today, I usually find that I set an over ambitious list of tasks and fail miserably.  :(

Well I had some usual house tasks to do, not to onerous, so thought have breakfast, crack on get these done then I will have rest of the day to crack my list of railway tasks.

If only, unfortunately other people get in the way of your planned day.

First my wife, could I cut her hair, I said no but got a look of distain  >:(, so quivering I said yes, then there was the coffee and crossword and finally released to my own devices.

My wife took the dogs out for a long walk, which in normal circumstances I would do, but not allowed too at the moment being one of the many shielding.

Oh for the freedom of going out, one day  ::)

Decided I would work at the workbench in morning building those pesky bus shelters, sat down and started work, two seconds later phone rang, it was our daughter, as her mother was out I had to speak to her, a hour plus later finished call, wife returned and guess what it was lunchtime.

After lunch spent a hour building the bus shelters, but my left hand was playing up so I got a little frustrated as I couldnít hold anything still (this problem is the residual from a minor stroke I had 9 months ago) to place and glue. I have had to adopt one or two new methods when holding small parts included utilising blu-tak. Gave up and went to Hillsden.  :(

Set to work dry brushing one of the remaining paved areas, glutton for punishment, after half an hour spent then I was interrupted by two further calls from railway club members, another two hours away from the railway.  :doh:

Just before a late tea I managed successfully to complete the construction of all three bus shelters  :claphappy: Photographs can be found in Nbodgers Workbench thread. Now just need painting and weathering, final pictures will be posted in this thread.

After tea spent another half hour dry brushing, it doesnít look bad in a couple of photoís I took, so will see tomorrow and may call it a day with that section. Unfortunately this part of the layout is not well lit at present by the room light, so it is hard to judge hence took the photoís.

Well despite the unwanted events of the day, I actually got done what I set out to do, so perhaps I have learnt my lesson on planning to much work. So as I write this all is happy   :bounce:

Till tomorrow then

Stay Safe and well

Mike H  8)


 

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 15, 2020, 07:28:33 AM
It's weird how the time keeps being take away from you, isn't it.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 15, 2020, 03:12:07 PM
I thought it was about time I posted another video

The video is off a WD on coal empties slowly moving through Hillsden (nearly 2 minutes long).




in case you missed the video in my first post of trains running through Hillsden, well here it is again



Hope you enjoy

Stay safe and well

Mike H 8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 15, 2020, 03:32:28 PM
Lovely.  Reminds me my WD is another loco that hasn't seen the light of day since we last moved house :-[
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on May 15, 2020, 04:50:34 PM
Excellent.
Thank you for those videos.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on May 15, 2020, 06:11:36 PM
Very nice Mike,

lovely to see trains running on peoples layouts  :thumbsup:

Cheers Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 15, 2020, 07:55:26 PM
Well its that time of day again, a visit to another part of Hillsden, you will be glad to know that there is not much more to see of Hillsden, so will need to find new material to post.

The last few tours around Hillsden, have been single uninteresting structures, well today we hit one of the old mills, I hasten to add not the large mill building on Mill Lane that will come later. The area we are vising today is just off Scout Road and bound onto Sunny Bank, where that row of isolated cottages sits, to the south on the layout. Its not a very sunny day here in Hillsden, so we shouldnít get much sun reflection in the camera lens.


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The old mill is now a large garment manufacturer, employing many people in the area, Helliwell and Sutcliffeís is the name. The premises supply shops all over the world, transported by both road and rail.


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From the above photo you can see how close the premises are to the railway, I must get that fence to the railway finished to help prevent trespasses. Quite a good view for the train spotters here as you can see all that is happening at Hillsden Station.


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-150520193506.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93406)


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-150520193832.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93407)

Above; we have a close up of the main office building, attached to the North Light production and distribution area with an outward loading bay. The complex is accessed from near the bottom of Scout Road, just before the junction with Mill Lane.


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(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-150520194406.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93409)

Above is the secondary building which the intention is to form a high-level link bridge between the two building, however this will have to be removable as the base board runs between the buildings.


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This photo, shows the raw material and packaging storage buildings, these will be serviced by fork lift trucks taking palletised goods into the factory.


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-150520194925.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93411)

The above photo shows the rear of the storage building buildings with the retaining wall to Mill Lane
This area of the layout is very cramped and is very difficult to take photoís in the limited space, as most have been taken at a slow shutter speed due to the inadequacies of the room lighting.

Again all the structures are scratch built utilising plastikard both plain and embossed of varying thicknesses, 10,20 and 40tho. Painted and weathered using enamel paint.

I remember that this complex was part constructed whilst staying at the Brands Hatch Thistle hotel whilst away on business at my companies Dartford office and was built over a period of years, the North Light building first, followed by the main office and finally around 5/6 years ago the secondary building, storage buildings and the small boiler house and chimney.


Like all areas on the layout there is still work to do including, adding nameboard, bridge link, general cameo scenes, pavement weathering and landscaping.

Hope you enjoyed todays trip.

Stay safe nd well

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 15, 2020, 07:59:57 PM
Superb structures mike. What's the flatbed lorry please?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 15, 2020, 08:03:25 PM
WD's on Hillsden

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-150520195933.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93412)



(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-150520200039.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93413)

Whilst videoing the recently posted video, I took the opportunity to take a couple of stills, please enjoy

Stay safe and well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 15, 2020, 08:13:24 PM
Superb structures mike. What's the flatbed lorry please?

Thank you for the compliment on the structures

The flatbed is from the Oxford Haulage range, and is a Foden FG Platform in BRS livery, kindly bought by my wife when I took her into a model shop on holiday, like you do  ::)

Stay safe and keep well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 15, 2020, 08:15:32 PM
Thought it was a foden
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 15, 2020, 08:48:44 PM
Nice pics Mike and I enjoyed the videos, I have the same Foden  truck on my layout in front of the viaduct. There was a guy on a stacker truck loading boxes onto it but that seems to have dissapeared into the abyis, ie the carpet. I will probably find it one day with one of my Knees when working on the layout, wellI live in hope.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 15, 2020, 11:28:00 PM
Another day comes to a close, had a easy day today  8)

After yesterdays dry brushing of the paved area, I decided I was reasonably satisfied, but would take a look in the morning. Well after looking I decided there were two problems, the greys had a overpowering shade of purple and was far too dark, thought what shall I do, well went into the railway room with the intention of dry brushing with the grey I had used the night before but with a little white added then  :idea: I decided to try dry brushing with cream colour, at first looked ok so later in the day gave it another dry brushed coat of the same colour. 

 :helpneededsign:

The photograph below shows the state of play at present
                                                           
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I am not sure about it so was thinking (dangerous thing) about repainting it in a stone colour, then giving it a dirty wash, could I ask all you experts for your thoughts please. The photograph shows the paving close up, so it does exaggerate my perceived problem, please ignore the blemish

So not happy  :( and  :-\ undecided over what to do.

anyway having made a potential mess I decided to spend the rest of the afternoon drinking coffee and some camera work, the results can be seen in my previous posts today.

In the evening gave one of the bus shelters a first coat of paint.

Anyway its the end of another day not gone quite to plan but certainly no  :veryangry: moments, perhaps I should just stick to taking photographs.

Stay safe and well

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Milton Rail on May 16, 2020, 07:51:10 AM
A belated welcome to the forum Mike, have enjoyed your tours of Hillsden, it is a cracker of a layout and some great smooth running you are achieving.  The buildings you have created are super, not just really well built, but very sympathetic weathering too

Funny the things that standout, but I loved that raised pavement/retaining wall along the shops, just looks right .. and those terraced houses on the steep hill took me back to childhood memories of being shipped south to stay with our grandmother in Felling, Tyne & Wear, who had a house very similar and on an equally steep hill!

Great stuff   :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 16, 2020, 08:06:00 AM
A belated welcome to the forum Mike, have enjoyed your tours of Hillsden, it is a cracker of a layout and some great smooth running you are achieving.  The buildings you have created are super, not just really well built, but very sympathetic weathering too

Funny the things that standout, but I loved that raised pavement/retaining wall along the shops, just looks right .. and those terraced houses on the steep hill took me back to childhood memories of being shipped south to stay with our grandmother in Felling, Tyne & Wear, who had a house very similar and on an equally steep hill!

Great stuff   :beers:

 :thankyousign:

Thank you for your kind comments very much appreciated. I must say I have been very surprised, but happy at how many appreciative comments the layout as received, it makes it all worth while.

Stay safe and well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 16, 2020, 04:58:56 PM
On the various tours around Hillsden, there is one small factory that we have missed along the way, although glimpses of it will have been seen in other photographs. Today we take a look at another north light building, this time with a brick finish.

The factory manufactures trousers and goes under the name of Farrar's, again selling their wares worldwide and is situated on Burnley Road opposite the proposed used car dealers. 


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this was the first building constructed with a brick finish, although it had already been used on Burnley Road Bridge, this was however, the first North Light Building for the layout, and I spent a lot of time drawing out the various angles etc.

Again the structure is built from plastikard of various thicknesses and painted and weathered with Humbrol enamel


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Hope you have enjoyed todays short visit

Stay safe and well

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 16, 2020, 05:05:46 PM
Another nice pic Mike. Love these scratch built buildings exclusive to your layout.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on May 16, 2020, 05:27:57 PM
Another nice pic Mike. Love these scratch built buildings exclusive to your layout.

Seconded!  That's a very impressive building.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 16, 2020, 05:52:30 PM
Love the building with the sunlight
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 16, 2020, 06:14:51 PM
Another nice pic Mike. Love these scratch built buildings exclusive to your layout.

Another nice pic Mike. Love these scratch built buildings exclusive to your layout.

Seconded!  That's a very impressive building.

Best wishes.

John


Chris / John

 :thankyousign:

Thank you for your appreciation, much appreciated.

I have looked at off the shelf kits etc, but they never seemed to sit alongside the scratch built ones, without a lot of modifications which would probably have taken as long to do, hence pointless. There is however one kit on the layout and that is the ratio Midland Signal box, I just couldnít do the windows justice.

Again many thanks

Keep Safe and Well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 16, 2020, 06:20:17 PM
Love the building with the sunlight

 :thankyousign:

I was in a hurry to get the post done, the ďbossĒ was calling and I never noticed the effect of the room light on the photograph until your post.

Stay Safe and well

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 16, 2020, 11:07:35 PM
Itís Saturday today (I think), all days seem to blend into one at the moment, so thought I would get outside in the garden and earn a few brownie points.  ::)

Cut the grass, third time this week, must remember not to use fertiliser next year,  it takes too much time away from the railway  :doh:. I even edged the lawn properly and cut back the excess growth around the patio, that should at least get me one of those new Thompson coaches, which are getting very expensive. :bounce:

I see that the delivery man has been from Amazon again, what has she bought now? I seem to be rapidly loosing out in the spending stakes during lockdown, will have to rectify that, looks like a day of online shopping tomorrow, but not Amazon.  ::)

Well I pulled a fast one this morning, when the wife took the dogs out for their walk, I nipped into Hillsden, got a tin of Matt varnish out and varnished one of the paved areas, no ones the wiser that I escaped for half a hour. After yesterday evenings debate, yes the paved area looked ok today, so left it alone other than the varnish.  :thumbsup:

One of our dogs follows the wife around all day, so when she goes to do some gardening, the dog goes with her and promptly digs up plants that have just been planted, so today I said I would spend an hour or so dog sitting whilst she did the gardening, well what I really meant was I will do some railway sat in the kitchen whilst dog sitting.  :thumbsup:

After being relieved from dog sitting duties I quietly sloped off once again to Hillsden more commonly known in our house as ďparadiseĒ. During this visit I started the weathering of the road and paved area around the mill and Mill Road, probably  another three visits minimum required, also weathered a section of Burnley Road, and secured a length of coping stones (scribed 40tho plastikard) to the canal. A very fruitful afternoon.  :claphappy:

This evening I have given all the windows to the bus shelters their first coat of paint, probably around six sessions minimum required in the paint shop to complete those small items.  ::)

I am so pleased with the way the shelters have turned out, I am thinking of construction some more for the layout, I must be a glutton for punishment. :doh:

Also rounded the evening starting work on a video of Hillsden, utilising the tour photographs I have taken, plus some unseen ones. It will be a little time before this is posted, but may look at another video of trains running on Hillsden.

Someone at my railway club as requested / suggested that I should do a video on how I paint and weather waggon kits that I build, now that is scary, and the thought of hours in make up before each recording session. You will be pleased to know I havenít said yes.   :help:

When I have posted this I am going to do a bit of online therapy to address the balance on purchases made during lockdown.  :hmmm:


Well all in all itís been a good productive day in Hillsden.  ::)

Stay Safe and well

Mike H  8)


Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 17, 2020, 07:34:39 AM
Your grass must be growing really quickly, Mike.  I tend to cut ours about once every three or four weeks.  The dry weather really helps of course.  Everything else gets watered, but not the grass.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 17, 2020, 01:41:41 PM
Your grass must be growing really quickly, Mike.  I tend to cut ours about once every three or four weeks.  The dry weather really helps of course.  Everything else gets watered, but not the grass.

Laurence, I now know where I went wrong, I have been watering it

As you say it is very dry and we have to water the garden nearly every day, if I didnít pay attention to the grass it wouldnít exist especially with two dogs

Off to Hillsden now with my camera in hand

Stay safe and well

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 17, 2020, 04:26:17 PM
Hillsden Diesels for the Day

Another video shot today for you, this has diesels running through Hillsden, I am still trying to find the best locations to video from on the layout which is difficult, due to being a built up area



Hope you enjoy

Stay safe and well

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 17, 2020, 04:50:53 PM
Love the type 4 on the yorkshire pullman and the trundling  growling, type 2, 31
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 17, 2020, 05:01:23 PM
I don't plan to have any diesels but, if I did, they would definitely be in the green and white livery.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 17, 2020, 06:05:10 PM
Nice video, they seem to go up that incline ok, or at least it looks like a incline.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 17, 2020, 06:17:07 PM
Nice video, they seem to go up that incline ok, or at least it looks like a incline.

Thanks Chris,

What incline, there wasnít supposed to be one, the intention was to keep the track bed level, but poor workmanship or was it the tools led to the incline.  :doh:

I have an original Poole Duchess, which really sound good coming up the incline, who needs sound effects eh.

Stay safe and well

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 17, 2020, 07:41:58 PM
There is only one more tour of Hillsden after this one, as we will have visited the whole of the layout. Is that a big sigh of relief I here?

Well today we are back on Burnley Road and Midgley Road junction.

Today we are visiting the Head Office and workshops of Thornberís. The company are a well known chicken producer in the area (yes I did say chicken producer) and from their hatcheries send many day old chicks around the country, plus breading for both eggs and meat for the table.

The area modeled depicts the head office and workshops for the business who have various premises in the area.
You may think why a chicken producer, well where I was born in the Calder Valley, the company actually existed and the head office and workshops were a few hundred yards from my home, the office was a converted mill building (sadly not on the model).

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The above picture is a view of the office building from the junction of Midgley Road and Burnley Road, to the front of the building behind the low wall will be a small grassed area with a small tree, thatís if the landscape contractors ever turns up.

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The whole works complex covers a large area of the layout and stretches from Midgley Road all the way to Burnley Road Bridge. The two pictures show the buildings along Burnley Road, the first looking in a northerly direction towards the Bridge and the other the southerly direction towards Halifax Road.


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The above view is the main office building from the rear, again the sun is reflecting in the camera lens, you may notice a different section of brickwork infill to a section of the top row of windows, obviously some alterations have taken place over the years, Err No the knife slipped during construction and ruined two window locations, this was my attempt to bodge (cover) it up.
The paving to this who area is still to be completed, hence areas of white plastikard laid loose are evident. Again, waiting for the contractors to finish.

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The picture above shows the yard and the main maintenance building, there is plenty of space to the front of the building to construct some cameo scenes. It is also the intention to construct a material storage area similar to that you would see in a timber supplier (Not B&Q). I will do a post when this is under construction, hopefully detailing some of my methods for those who may be interested.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-170520193839.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93568)

The last photo is a view from Midgley Road
All of the designs are freelance although the maintenance building brickwork and window details were taken and developed from a photograph in a railway book. Sadly, part of the roof has warped and is in need of repair, thought about putting a temporary tarpaulin over it. The repair will necessitate the removal of one section of roof which wonít be easy as the building is well and truly fixed so I will have to work over the layout, perhaps that tarpaulin and a bit of scaffold is not a bad idea after all.

As all my structures these are constructed with various plain and embossed plastikard of various thicknesses, painted and weathered.

Hope you have enjoyed todayís tour, next up for those who are interested will be the main mill

Stay safe and well

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 17, 2020, 11:01:36 PM
Whilst videoing I took some stills as well,please see todays offering

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-170520225735.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93575)

Two tone Green Brush Type 4 (Class 47 to the younger ones)

Need to remove that headlight from the nose or replace with the class 47(0)

Stay safe and well

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 17, 2020, 11:09:54 PM
Nice pic Mike, I like the class 47's, I have one myself in green D1500  and I just pulled it out of the box tonight ready for testing. I seem to recall it has pickup issues which I never got round to resolving, so I will give it a good clean and see how it fairs.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 18, 2020, 10:47:21 PM
Its been a quiet day in Hillsden, not too much to report.

I didn't have time today to take photo's of the Mill Building, I really need to finish weathering the surrounding hardstanding and Mill Road. Oh I did have an accident with the mill whilst weathering, I knocked the main entrance canopy off  :veryangry:, and it is still awaiting the builder to turn up and glue back, I am afraid large hands do not fit down N Gauge Mill Lanes, there more suited to that 7mm stuff  :censored:

So the upshot is that there is no final tour of Hillsden today, probably will be in a few days time  :(

Well what have I actually done today, well due to phone calls and household chores I didn't travel to Hillsden until the afternoon, I decided to finish weathering the roads, which would give me access to various areas to start detail work or landscaping. So finished the weathering or so I thought  ??? and gave it all a finishing coat of matt varnish. Well the varnish did not give a good finish and needs redoing, also some of the road colour had come away, only minor blemishes, which probably happened when I was rubbing the surface hard with a rag, so need to touch, fingers crossed for tomorrow.  :'(

Just prior to tea I started to draw out the mimic diagram for the new slave control panel for the front of the layout to allow for shunting operations, unfortunately other people and two dogs had other ideas, so didn't get very far.

I had intended to do some more painting of those pesky bus shelters, but too tired  :sleep: to paint small items.

I also went to order a yard crane on line, but when I saw the website was unsecure for payments, I decided I will do it by phone tomorrow, better do it whilst my wife takes the dogs out for their walk  :angel:

Well I thought I couldn't disappoint so here is a photograph of the only kit built structure on the layout, the ratio Midland signal box, built quite a few millennium ago. The roof still isn't painted, nor is it fixed in place as it would no doubt have been destroyed by now as I worked on the layout, maybe I might finish it this year   :-\


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-180520224307.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93630)


So we will see what tomorrow brings  ::) ::) ::)

Stay safe and keep well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: pape_timmo on May 18, 2020, 11:42:10 PM
Thatís a lovely looking signal box 👍👍

Cheers, Timmo
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on May 19, 2020, 08:41:12 AM
Thatís a lovely looking signal box 👍👍

Cheers, Timmo

Seconded!  I once built the 4mm version and it was a very nice Ratio kit.  I particularly like the BR(NE) colour scheme, applicable after the transfer of lines in the West Riding from BR(M) to BR(NE).  It is a really nice touch, putting that finish on an ex-Midland structure; sets the time and location perfectly.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 19, 2020, 09:19:47 AM
Thatís a lovely looking signal box 👍👍

Cheers, Timmo

Seconded!  I once built the 4mm version and it was a very nice Ratio kit.  I particularly like the BR(NE) colour scheme, applicable after the transfer of lines in the West Riding from BR(M) to BR(NE).  It is a really nice touch, putting that finish on an ex-Midland structure; sets the time and location perfectly.

Best wishes.

John

John / Timmo

Thank you both for your kind comments

The real reason for the colour scheme was childhood memories of spending time playing with the leavers in Mytholmroyd signal box in the early sixties. I was friends with the kids at the end of our street, guess what their father was the signalman. You certainly wouldnít be allowed today to scramble up the embankment, walk trackside and enter the box, but that was what we did.

I have often thought about building a layout of Mytholmroyd, although I was only there for the first eight years of my life, but it cemented my lifelong interest in railways. It is probably never going to happen as Hillsden has taken too many years.

Stay Safe and well

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 19, 2020, 05:09:21 PM
Princess Coronation Class 4-6-2

This afternoon I gave Princess Coronation Class 4-6-2, King George VI a outing on Hillsden

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-190520170144.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93710)

Here she is waiting for the signal on Platform 2

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-190520170252.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93711)

A few minutes later departed the station and passing under Midgley Road Bridge

This model is an original Graham Farish Poole produced locomotive, it is a excellent runner from a crawl to a top speed. I may video it running on the layout tomorrow if time permits and post in this thread

Hope you enjoy the photo's

Stay safe and well

Mike H 8)


Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 19, 2020, 10:59:32 PM
Another day gone, doesnít time fly  :hmmm:

Yesterday I decided I would cut the lawn again today, however, it rained during the night and again early in the morning, so I was told as the wife brought the dogs back from their walk. So on reflection I thought not a good time to cut the grass, it was very damp, then that hot yellow thing appeared in the sky and dried it out quickly, so was unable to escape to Hillsden and had to cut the grass.  :doh:

Today I also ordered the static crane for the goods yard, so in a few days will have something else to do for the layout, I was supposed to be catching up on part finished jobs on Hillsden, getting those rolling stock kits finished and painted, but what have I done , continually added new items to the list.  ::)

I heard a statement from my wife declaring we are starting to decorate one of the bedrooms next week, I froze in horror, need to check my book of excuses, I have more urgent and important things to do.  :veryangry: So now working on a plan, but not spilling the beans yet.  ::)

After lunch had a video conference with ex colleagues then I finally escaped to Hillsden.  :bounce:

The first job was to rectify the road problem I created yesterday, so blended a paint mix into the now missing areas of paint, and later applied another layer of Matt varnish, looked good and was very pleased, left it for a couple of hours to dry. Went back to check on it DISASTER   :censored: again there were more patches of white, but to a greater extent, the varnish appears to erode the paint and the previous varnish layer, acting as a sort of paint stripper, but no residue other than the white patches. The varnish is the same as I have used previously on other projects including waggon kits without any problems, however this was a new tin. Must admit where there isnít any problems the final finish looks good.

Well what to do next  ???

I decided to dry brush the surface to recover the situation, I have practically done 50% of the roads with this method but as yet only used one colour, dare I say it out of a disaster the road is starting to look better than it was, I am going to continue tomorrow time permitting and follow on with another shade, guess what no varnish this time.  ::)

Now was it varnish or vanish I used?  :(

So the Hillsden rule is after every disaster there is always a better solution.  :thumbsup:

Anyway after the problem I ran my old Farish Princess Coronation and took a few photoís, a couple posted earlier. This loco which is about 22 years old runs really well and is very responsive at all speeds. Not bad considering I went to buy a two tone green Deltic, well at least I came home with something green. No regrets with the purchase.

Who knows one day I may get that Deltic.  ::)

Well tonight I have finished the bus shelters, just need a bit of weathering, which I will do tomorrow and then fix on the layout, and yes a photo on the forum.  :claphappy:

Still not got around to finishing the weathering of the paving around the mill, Sorry but I need to finish the roads first putting off the photo shoot of the mill.

Oh I nearly forgot also did a bit more on the illustration for the mimic panel for the additional control panel

Well thatís all for today

Stay safe and well

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 19, 2020, 11:08:54 PM
I like the pic of the Coronation very nice loco, you will not regret getting a Deltic if it runs has good as mine. Nice to hear of your adventures on the layout, I am looking forward to starting on my scenics but it is important to get everything running first.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 20, 2020, 07:46:15 AM
You're a braver man than I am as far as painting the layout is concerned.  I hope you get everything right in the end.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 20, 2020, 10:01:12 AM
You're a braver man than I am as far as painting the layout is concerned.  I hope you get everything right in the end.


Always fearful of making a mess of what you have achieved, knowing when to stop is a hard thing to do and one has to live with the consequences, thatís why I have never weathered a loco yet.

Stay Safe and well

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 20, 2020, 04:25:38 PM
Princess Coronation - King George VI

It has been too hot today to do anything constructive on the layout although I managed to do a couple of runs of King George VI to for a short video as promissed, there would have been more but the camera battery ran out.



Hope you enjoy

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on May 20, 2020, 04:29:33 PM
Most enjoyable, and I do like the speed you run your trains. Out of curiosity is there a speed restriction along the line?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 20, 2020, 04:30:45 PM
Let me return the compliments . Super video Mike with the type 4, the dmu and a beautiful settings to be in. Love the viaduct which blends in with those mills
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 20, 2020, 04:37:35 PM
Most enjoyable, and I do like the speed you run your trains. Out of curiosity is there a speed restriction along the line?

No speed restrictions but looking at some of the curves, perhaps their should be, I just like to enjoy the trains running on the layout to give a reasonable view. If I was operating a sequence, I would run the express trains at a faster  pace.

Happy you have enjoyed the video although short

Stay safe and well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 20, 2020, 04:40:15 PM
Let me return the compliments . Super video Mike with the type 4, the dmu and a beautiful settings to be in. Love the viaduct which blends in with those mills

 :thankyousign:

Compliment much appreciated

Stay safe and well

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 20, 2020, 04:56:32 PM
Nice video, Mike.  I notice the bus stop has been commissioned.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 20, 2020, 05:36:21 PM
Nice video Mike, I agree the viaduct fits in well with the mill buildings.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 20, 2020, 08:54:07 PM
Not been a good day today for me, for a start its been too hot, I cant stand the heat unless sat on a beach with a nice breeze off the sea and a pint in my hand.  :(

The day didn't start well with my wife feeling under the weather, so been on kitchen duty and room service all day  :scowl: which has curtailed my railway activities. Also had to entertain our two dogs all day because they were unable to go for there usual long walk because at the moment my wife takes them as I am one of the many shielded people not allowed out until the end of June at the earliest, this being due having had a organ transplant.

Anyway I did try to do a bit of railway, first I finished the bus shelters and fixed them on the layout, please see photo's below :-


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-200520203207.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93791)


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-200520203328.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93792)

the close up really does show the poor workmanship and painting of a small object, if you look at them in the flesh, the look quite good and I am pleased with them.  :thumbsup:

After yesterdays problem with the roads I spent around 30 minutes dry brushing over the problem, looks a lot better but unfortunately will require a varnish top coat of some description, but that will have to wait until i can get to the shops or need to place a larger online order. It was certainly too hot in the railway room especially when stood on a chair to reach the back of the layout (why does heat rise) so left off doing anymore until it is cooler.

I did manage to do a short video, please see earlier post

I have tried a little experiment with the roads over a very short section with slightly watered down acrylic, flooding the length, then adding more water to give it a wash covering, looks ok when I left it to fully dry, will have a look in the morning to see if it is still looks ok, the reason for doing this was to help mask the repair dry brushing and give it a uniform texture but not a uniform colour to the road, no doubt this will need a clear matt protective coat still, again fingers crossed  :doh:

I m now sat having a bit of a quiet time trying to complete my track diagram for the mimic board on the new slave panel, need to finish so that I know what size box to build.

Anyway here is to a better day tomorrow  :) :)

Stay safe and well


Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 20, 2020, 08:56:07 PM
Take it easy mike with your health and happy railway modelling
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 20, 2020, 10:49:25 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:
Superb video Mike & those bus stops looking the real deal
   stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 21, 2020, 08:37:39 PM
Control Panel Project

The control panel has never really been completed on Hillsden, although it does function and everything is correct, except for a minor intermittent connection problem on the point feeds (I now no which button to press to reconnect). It really only needs a cosmetic facelift and properly labelling.

As I have hinted at in previous posts it is my intention to construct a slave control panel with the ability to control the scenic part of the layout, its function will be two-fold.

1)   To be able to shunt the goods yard and bay platform area when the layout is being operated by three operators, i.e. a full operating session (at present you cannot see the goods area to operate due to scenery and back scene

2)   To be able to shunt the layout, when operating on my own.

I have now completed the plan of the scenic side for stenciling onto the mimic board, see photo below:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-210520203345.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93857)

Please note I am a dinosaur and the layout is DC controlled and I am also a Yorkshire Man so there is no way I am forking out to convert it to DCC, happy as it is, so please donít try to convince me to convert it.

The layout has in effect five controllers, two control the fiddle yard and are set at a constant speed, which means the fiddle yard is always live, train movements managed by isolation switches.

One controller for the up, one for the down and one for the goods area.

Depending how many operators are available for the session it is possible to switch area of the layout to any controller, so if I am operating it on my own, I can control the total layout with one controller.

I am now in the position to start the project, as I have the wood required for the panel, wire, switches and connectors for electrical work.

Whilst undertaking the new panel, I will take the opportunity to finish the existing panel including correcting the fault. I also have a section of track to re-route to a different controller and add to the panel for the control of two new storage roads for the branch line.
So, when I start the work the control for the layout will be removed for a period of time, hence no trains will be running. Unfortunately, this work cannot be done under Rules of the Route possessions but will require a full blockade.  :doh:

Just need to fit it in around all the other jobs on the layout and decide what my priorities are, I think this should be high on the list, but I donít want it to drag on for weeks.

Look forward to reporting the progress.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 21, 2020, 08:50:34 PM
Fairburn Tank on Hillsden

I couldn't resist taking some photo's of the layout today, so enjoy

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-210520204540.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93859)

View taken from the fiddle yard, a scene you do not see from the viewing side of the layout

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-210520204639.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93860)

View taken from the station platform, Ian Allen Combined Volume and notebook in hand (must fix the signal box in place)

Enjoy

Stay Safe

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 21, 2020, 08:53:20 PM
Good luck from a Cheshireman. I'm analogue. Mike good luck with the wiring
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: mika on May 21, 2020, 09:22:47 PM
Wonderful pictures of the Fairburn, Mike.
I also like the video of King George VI slowly hauling its train into the station. Lovely!

Best,
Michael
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 21, 2020, 09:32:24 PM
Wonderful pictures of the Fairburn, Mike.
I also like the video of King George VI slowly hauling its train into the station. Lovely!

Best,
Michael

Thank you Michael for your kind words. It is always gratifying when others appreciate your work, makes it all worthwhile. Thatís why I joined the forum to share something very few people have ever seen

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 21, 2020, 09:40:49 PM
Nice pics Mike, never got round to buying a Fairburn myself, I have a 4MT tank though.
Have fun designing your new control panel and keep safe and well.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 21, 2020, 11:03:32 PM
A quiet day today here in Hillsden not done a great deal of work on the railway.

The postman delivered a small packet, the yard crane from Knightwing, not bad only ordered it on Tuesday arrived today with second class postage. Only trouble is something else to build (not enough days in the hours)  :doh:

Took a look first thing, even before breakfast to check the trial I undertook last night on the roads, very pleased with the outcome, but will need a Matt varnish to finish (not the one that caused the problems). Did a little bit more of the roads, but still plenty to do.  ::) ::)

I have also started weathering the paved area around the mill and Mill Lane, hopefully tomorrow I can complete and finally do the photo shoot and finish the delayed final issue of our tour around Hillsden.  ???

Completed the track plan for the slave panel, see earlier post.

Spent over two hours on the phone catching up with friends I havenít been able to see and finally took some photoís again see earlier post.

I now have so much work to do on the layout, control panel, waggon kits, painting wagons, scenic details etc, I have a dilemma what to do first. I think it will have to be a combination of all to stop getting in a rut and keeping the enjoyment.  :confused1:

I think the main project will be the control panel, construct as much work as possible without disconnecting the main panel, whilst doing other smaller items in between tokeep things moving, then when I disconnect the main panel, work on that 100% to get things back running in the shortest time possible.

Whilst taking the photoís for the tours of Hillsden I have been compiling a video of the stills, some you will have seen, and some you have not, will post when complete for your enjoyment

Hillsden has become a full time job, it was once a hobby  :confused1:

Stay safe

Mike H  8) 8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 22, 2020, 09:35:16 PM
At long last the final tour of Hillsden

Today we visit the mill, which sits between Mill Lane and the redundant canal, it is probably the centerpiece of the layout and sets the tone of the whole scene. The mill manufactures woolen carpets, which adorn houses all over the world. As yet un-named but Crossleyís is a well known name of Calder Valley fame.

After starting the layout and building terrace houses etc., I began to think what have I taken on, it will take years to build small structures to fill the layout, so had to start bigger projects to give a meaning for the town. You have guessed it the mill was one of those structures.

Whilst reading, well looking at the pictures of Railway Memories No 11, ďHalifax and the Calder ValleyĒ I was struck by a photograph on 38, which was a view of Sowerby Bridge MPD, taken in 1963, in the background was a series of mill buildings, but the one that caught my eye was the CWS flour mill. So, I set about creating scale drawings of a complex from this single very small photograph, which only gave a partial view of the rear of the structure. After a couple of days, I had a scale drawing on an AO sheet of paper, if I remember correctly this was around the year 2000. I thought well that will fill a lot of space and continued to build it, as a flour mill.

The building is constructed as previous structures from 40tho, 20tho, 10tho plain plastikard, Small stone embossed plastikard and microstrip. The building contains a whopping 170 individually made windows constructed from plastiglaze, 10tho plain and micro strip, I luckily chose not to paint them.

The structure stood uncompleted until 2014/2015 when the roof and chimney were built and other general finishingís including painting and weathering. So, another building 15 years in the making, there was various reasons why it took so long like the layout, the main one being free time with work commitments and 10 years running the junior section at the local cricket club.

Whilst constructing the pavement on Mill Lane I inadvertently knocked the doorway canopy off, I couldnít fix it myself as my hands were too big for the space available, so this afternoon my wife glued the canopy back in place.

As this is the last structure, I have a collection of 8 photographs below to take you on a journey around the structure.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-220520211505.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93966)

General Overall View

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-220520211626.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93967)

Roof Top View

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-220520211716.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93968)

Rear of structure; showing upper storeys and chimneys

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-220520211936.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93970)

General view of the rear of the building and surroundings from the fiddle yard

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-220520212042.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93971)

Rear view of the building and yard, including the chimney

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-220520212130.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93972)

Close up of the rear wall and doorway

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-220520212223.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93973)

Close up of the chimney base and rear door, modelled open, there appears to be a bit of debris accumulated inside the building, need to get the cleaners in.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-220520212305.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93974)

The alleyway between the mill building and the ancillary building looking towards Mill Lane

The who area needs those cameo scenes, lifting beam to the doorways on the end of the building, landscaping, and a sign. The white area to the rear is the redundant canal, which still needs a lot of work doing.

Hope you have enjoyed the final tour, but its not the end plenty to do on the layout and plenty to write about, oh and a few photographs.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on May 22, 2020, 09:40:33 PM
I have indeed. Wonderful stuff, Mike.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 22, 2020, 09:43:48 PM
Those photos show industrial townscape well . Looked at tetleys mills and https://images.app.goo.gl/XJv4NCtkhvNoocU19. Mike. You have captured attention
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 22, 2020, 09:45:13 PM
Lightermans yard if guessing 50s London warehouses and housing
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 22, 2020, 11:25:04 PM
It has been a tiring but rewarding day here in Hillsden. :sleep:

I first finished off the weathering to Mill Lane and the paved areas around the mill, I am quite pleased with the finish, although it does need a final coat of matt varnish as do all of the roads and paved areas on the layout.  :thumbsup:

As it will be at least the end of June before I can go out to the shops again in person  :-\, I took the plunge and ordered some matt varnish on line and paid the postage and packing, which is expensive compared to the price of what I bought, but I thought I need to get it done and move on.  ::)

Well I didnít feel too bad when I discovered that my wife had ordered more clothes on line, as I keep telling her we cannot go out at the moment. :angel:

I also had to enroll my dear wife to glue back the Mill building canopy because my hand is too big to fit in the tight space. A bid thankyou to her for helping out, well I suppose she did deserve the clothes.

After lunch I spent most of the afternoon, cutting out the plywood sides and floor for the slave control panel, this did tire me, so I left the top until tomorrow, when hopefully I can get the panel box, pinned and glued together.  ::) ::)

Finally took the mill photographs to enable me to finish the tour of Hillsden, see earlier post.

Well as I am tired and need my stamina for tomorrows exploits, I am calling it a day  :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: impinabox on May 22, 2020, 11:50:46 PM
Wow!  Love that last shot looking past the warehouse doors.  Looks like gangland territory and I kindof expect blue flashing lights and Z cars to come round the corner!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on May 23, 2020, 12:02:31 AM
Good one! It does, doesn't it?  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 23, 2020, 07:41:10 AM
That's a really impressive mill building, particularly as it took fifteen years to build.  Great pereverance! :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 23, 2020, 04:20:48 PM
It is coming up to my four week anniversary on the Forum, time has flown by even in lockdown.

Over the last four weeks I have done word and photo tour of my layout Hillsden. Over this period I have taken many photographs. I have now put these photographs and many more unseen into a video tour of the layout which is a bit more structured. The video is around 7mins long, so if you are interested here it is warts and all, The Saturday Night Movie



Hope you enjoy

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 23, 2020, 04:27:06 PM
Impressive mike
 Look forward to more
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: impinabox on May 23, 2020, 05:11:31 PM
What he said!    :thumbsup:

Didn't see any warts tho... or 'waaarts' as she am not spoke in Souf Yorkshire.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 23, 2020, 05:23:01 PM
What he said!    :thumbsup:

Didn't see any warts tho... or 'waaarts' as she am not spoke in Souf Yorkshire.

You drink warrrrrds as well

Stay safe

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: impinabox on May 23, 2020, 06:06:42 PM
Not if I can help it.  Prefer Black Sheep meself!   :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 23, 2020, 10:20:20 PM
Saturday again here in Hillsden

Well I managed a walk today, down the full length of our drive, well that's a car length, still not been past the boundary during this lockdown.  :o

As I said yesterday evening I managed to cut all the pieces of wood for the additional control panel, glad to report no aches and pains today from all that hand sawing, it is a few years since I last used one.  ::)

Anyway today I managed to build the box for the additional control panel, well sort off, I found my joinery skills are not what they used to be, nor is my patience, so somehow I bodged it together and got it slightly out of square. Anyway a bit more bodging tomorrow with paint and filler, it will be reasonable as long as I keep it hidden when visitors are around.  :-[

Whilst in the railway room I did a small amount of landscaping a small area of earth coloured scatter near the row of terrace houses on Sunny Bank, I was only using up the glue I had decanted for the control panel, anyway its a start towards finishing the landscaping, who knows I may get green fingers next and lay some lawn, flowers and vegetables in the gardens, maybe build a train room too.  :thumbsup:

After a busy day I finished the evening off doing a bit more painting of the Southern vans and shark I have  been building for the last three / four weeks, I do need to get these finished and back in service.

Well I finally succumbed to taking another photograph or two on Hillsden so I say goodnight with the following offering, Enjoy  :)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-230520221231.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94033)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-230520221344.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94034)

The photographs are of an original Poole built Graham Farish Class 101 DMU at Hillsden Station, in need of a dusting. :doh:

Stay Safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on May 23, 2020, 10:37:10 PM
Cracking pictures Mike  :thumbsup:

Cheers Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 23, 2020, 11:31:10 PM
More good pictures Mike, I love that mill building it looks so realistic. Keep Safe.
Chris
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: joe cassidy on May 24, 2020, 09:20:41 AM
I like your ballasting.

What materials/method did you use Mike ?

Thanks in advance.


Joe
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 24, 2020, 09:39:11 AM
I like your ballasting.

What materials/method did you use Mike ?

Thanks in advance.


Joe

@joe cassidy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1484)
Hi Joe

The ballast is cheapest of cheap.

I used builders sand, which was left to completely dry before using, spread in the usual boring way with paint brush, the the usual dilute PVA plus a little washing up liquid was run down the sides of the rails using a paint brush until the area was flooded.  Left to dry and then the sand, rails and sleepers we painted by an old brush (the sand wears the bristles out rapidly) with Railmatch Sleeper Grime.

The railhead only then cleaned.

The track on the layout is Code 80, so this method was used to try and hide the rail height.

Trust this answers you query

Stay safe

Mike H   8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 24, 2020, 09:21:32 PM
Sunday in Hillsden

Well couldnít go to church today, as there isnít one built on Hillsden, so instead I cut the lawn plus some other household chores and then after lunch escaped to my little town, however, I soon wished I hadnít.  ???

I carried on where I left off yesterday with the new control panel, well I found it still in one piece all glued and pinned together. There were a few stray panel pins that had gone off line, so as the box was now stable I replaced these with some new pins and removed the troublesome ones.

Then the real bodging began, first I punched the panel pin head too below the wood surface, that is after I had spent around 20 minutes looking for the punch. Then the real fun, I took a large tub of filler and filled all the defects, there were many and left to dry.
 
Tomorrow it is face mask time and rub down all that diligently placed filler, followed by priming. ;D

Next disaster struck, I had reclaimed a piece of white faced hardboard for the top, which just required cutting to size, well I seem to have got a little bit excited and bent the piece rendering it useless, so project control panel is partially on hold until I can con my dear son to go shopping for me, which wont be for a few more days, hopefully have it for the weekend. Well I can tell you there was some right language when this happened, words I cannot repeat on here.  :censored:

Went back in the house and had a cup of coffee and a sulk  :(

Eventually I resurfaced and decided to do something simple, I finished off repainting the roads from my previous bodge up with the varnish, all looks fine now  :)

Well I have a couple of dilemmas to resolve on the layout  :-\

1)   First is the signaling, should I have semaphoreís or coloured lights, working or non working. I did purchase many years ago two colour light signal at Warley show from Roger Murray at £8.22 each, one can be seen in place on the layout, the other is worse for wear as I caught it while cleaning the track, probably around 12 months after purchase, the intention at the time was to have all colour lights and working signals, but I am not sure now. Semaphores would suit the scene better but canít decide.  :-\

2)   One of the reasons for the additional control panel was to be able to have hands off shunting, again I canít decide what system to use. At present I have a couple of Peco wagons with their lift arm system, which I installed years ago, and works very well, except for sprung couplings and loco couplings. I have a couple of suitable Farish locoís where they will work occasionally, so may be a slight mod to the locoís coupling may achieve what I want.

I also have some DG frets to make up, I have shunted with these on an exhibition layout, without any problems, except they are fiddly to make and require stock to be modified.

Also, I have some Dapol's Easy Shunt couplings, donít like the magnet set up, would have to change them to rare earth magnets, and donít particularly like the look, again fiddly to get right.

I will probably set up a test track with different couplings and experiment, more decisions to make  :doh:

Anyway, after a gloomy day a photograph taken this evening


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-240520211056.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94086)

Another original Farish, Poole locomotive, this time the Class 40 or for us older ones English Electric Type 4

Unfortunately the locomotive is posed for the picture as it is currently out of service, looks like the dreaded split gear problem, it is presently sidelined with three others that require some sort of repair  :(

isn't the camera cruel, I found out after I took the photograph that the station canopy droops, this is hardly noticeable to the naked eye, (or I need my eyes testing) but is magnified in the photo, they say the camera never lies, now where is photoshop.  ;)

Hope you enjoyed this evening offering of A Day in the Life of Hillsden

Stay Safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on May 24, 2020, 10:28:48 PM
I do like EE Type 4s :)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/264-191017100739-568651201.jpeg)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 24, 2020, 10:33:45 PM
We share the same tastes . https://youtu.be/WngSY_dS4Cs                                            and    here ..............              my favourite sound at bank quay bank in the day..... https://youtu.be/E6ZqlWxG1Vs
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 24, 2020, 10:36:04 PM
Try https://youtu.be/WngSY_dS4Cs
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 24, 2020, 11:27:50 PM
Now I know nuff all about diesels so class 40/type 4 means nothing, nice looking loco pity about the split gear. Sorry to hear of your control panel problems, I really need to finish mine, I have ordered some more led's though.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 25, 2020, 07:59:25 AM
At least, two steps forward and one step backwards is better the one step forward and two steps backwards. :hmmm:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on May 25, 2020, 10:15:12 AM
At least, two steps forward and one step backwards is better the one step forward and two steps backwards. :hmmm:

I'm told by Len Goodman it depends what dance you're doing, Laurence
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 25, 2020, 10:51:22 PM
Bank Holiday Monday in Hillsden

I thought I would post a picture first, to save you having to go through the whole post, well here it is


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-250520215348.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94148)

The class 40 again, but from a different angle, this time from the fiddle yard, I know I cheated I took a series of poses of the 40 yesterday.  :D

During my trainspotting days generally between the end of steam and 1972 out of the 199 English Electric Type 4 that were built, there were only 28 I never saw, luckily I did see the one in the photograph. I used to spend most Saturdays and some evenings after school (never one for doing homework) at either York Station, Bolton Percy or Chaolners Whin Junction on the outskirts of York where the ECML turned and headed to Selby. A junction that became defunct when the ECML was diverted around the Selby Coalfield. I later was involved in the civils work for the Selby diversion, both during the tender and construction phases, long before the ECML was electrified. As well as local spotting I spent many days travelling the country, even on one occasion missing the last bus home from York, no money left but got a taxi for the 12 mile journey in hope my parents would pay. Happy times.  ;D

Well back to todays exploits, I can honestly say it hasn't been a bad day on Hillsden especially after having to use the  :censored: ign yesterday.

Today I finished bodging the new control panel box, tub of filler nearly gone, and a couple of sheets of sanding paper, choked on the dust and finally gave it two coats of paint, nd have now left to fully dry overnight.

I also managed to get in contact with my youngest son who is calling by in the morning with some shopping, so I have conned him into making a detour to get some hardboard or ply to make the box top (the bit I destroyed yesterday), he says he will be here between 10 and 10:30 am, not bad for a university student (to be honest he does work in a shop as well).

So hopefully tomorrow I can move forward with the panel (pictures will follow in due course)

I also started finishing off the missing bits of scenery, and have been constructing and installing lengths of fencing using the PECO three rail fence on undulating land which all went perfectly well, which is unusual for me  :hmmm:

this evening i have been assembling some more fencing ready for installation tomorrow, however will need to go out for supplies, i am afraid another box will be required.

It is good now to be able to start constructing the things that finish a layout and bring it to life.

I have also been thinking further on the signalling and what to do, I have ruled out Dapol working semaphores, basically on cost, so if I go down the Semaphore route then they will be non working, with Ratio of P&D Marsh looking the favourites. Also if I have coloured lights then they too would be dummy. Its a shame having non working signals but I could spend the money saved on other detail scenic works on the layout.  :-\

There again if this summers International Cricket matches are played behind closed doors then I have quite a tidy sum to be refunded, pity, it would be nice to have seen England beat the Aussies at Headingley again like last season when I went to the first and what was the last day of the Test at Headingley. But that money will go a long way on Hillsden.  :(

Anyway that's all for today

Stay Safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on May 25, 2020, 10:59:27 PM
Geez, Mike.... we continue not to see eye to eye when it comes to sport!

Ok, an Aussie I ain't, but everyone around here is (including my daughters), so yes, I barrack for the Aussies.  :P

At least we agree on matters model railwayish!  :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 25, 2020, 11:02:36 PM
Geez, Mike.... we continue not to see eye to eye when it comes to sport!

Ok, an Aussie I ain't, but everyone around here is (including my daughters), so yes, I barrack for the Aussies.  :P

At least we agree on matters model railwayish!  :beers:

I just put the comment in to check if you read it all  :P

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 26, 2020, 10:05:04 PM
Hillsden : Day 30 on the Forum

Today it is 30 days since I joined the Forum and an experience it has been both from showing my layout Hillsden and things I have learnt from others. I hope I am making and continue to make valuable contribution to the Forum

Again, today has been a good day, the sun has been shining all day, however we are desperate for some rain, it looks as though we will not get any for at least the next week and a half.

The day started by nipping unnoticed into the railway room just after breakfast to give some bare plaster a green coating of acrylic paint, so it would be dry to do further work with later in the day  ;)

Next, I started the day constructing further lengths of PECO three rail fencing, a total of four lengths, although three were quite short ready to be installed on Hillsden.

Later in the day I installed the longest length of fencing, thought about ordering some post holes on line, but the postage and packing was extortionate, so I decided to drill my own and duly installed the fence, this section was at the end of Mill Lane and down to the canal. I find installing these fences is quite tiring plus I was using two of the tools I use to support the length I had just fixed, whilst waiting for the adhesive to set, so I left the other sections for another day.

Also spent some time on the control panel, drilling holes for the connecting cable loom to exit the panel in 2 x 25 wire looms, which will connect to the main control panel, also installed 2x 28 tag strips ready for a lot of soldering. I also drilled a third hole and installed the DIN socket for the controller.

Just after lunch my son arrived with my sheet of ply he had got from me, arrived only two and a half hours late, typical student arriving late full of excuses for why he was late, generally the excuses were code for he slept in, tell us another.  :doh:

So, I then cut the ply to size to form the control panel top, no disasters this time and we are now ready to get on with the panel.  :bounce:

As my workbench in the railway room is full of rubbish (I am slowly tidying it up) and my other work bench in the house is full of wagon kits either being constructed or painted, I am quite slow at getting these finished, some I started back in January / February.  :doh:

Anyway, to solve the problem of where to wire the control panel I have commandeered the dining room table, well I got down on my knees and begged. So now set up in the dining room I can commence the proper construction of the panel tomorrow.  ::)

First, I will have to transfer the track plan onto the panel top and drill the many holes for the switches, you need to remember I am a Yorkshire Dinosaur and will remain in my DC world, like many of us.

The work will probably take me a couple of weeks as I don’t intend to work on this full time, I need variety so will be progressing the layout in tandem.

Please see photograph below with the small amount of progress made to-date, this is evidence to prove I have been working on it, as you all seem to demand photographic evidence as proof.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-260520215832.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94253)

As I had poured out a small amount of PVA glue to fix the fencing, although I had poured too much, so I thought I would do a little bit of landscaping, so I added earth coloured scatter to the triangle of land adjacent to the Fruit and Veg wholesalers, various other scatters will be added to it in due course plus the planting of a tree and a post box next to the footpath and possibly a telephone box, if this is not too much for the small area. The various scatters, tree and bright red pillar box will add some contrasting colour to the general greys and stone colours in that area.

Last thing before tea I started to pour some bays of concrete slab construction to the yard of Thornber’s and Son, 6m3 of concrete, a full load in the truck mixer, by it did take some shifting on my own. Well actually it was 20tho plastikard cut into bay sizes and glued in place. When I have finished laying the slabs, the whole area will be rubbed down, painted a concrete colour and weathered. There is also another small structure to be constructed for this area, a project for another day.

Hope you have enjoyed another tale of my exploits in Hillsden

Apologies no pretty pictures of locomotives tonight, as sections of the layout get improved, I will post updated photo’s aside the original so you can play spot the difference, well I hope you will be able too. Spot the difference that is.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)




Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 26, 2020, 10:12:25 PM
I remember learning guards route training york via selby to temple Hirst junction . Achieved another milestone 1 month mike. I've been here 6 years nearly
 
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on May 26, 2020, 10:21:57 PM
Always good to read of others' success and correction of failures on the, of course, rare times they occur. Keep the updates coming please, Mike.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: impinabox on May 26, 2020, 11:25:21 PM
First, I will have to transfer the track plan onto the panel top and drill the many holes for the switches, you need to remember I am a Yorkshire Dinosaur and will remain in my DC world, like many of us.

I found these self-adhesive A4 labels useful for my control panel...
https://www.a4labels.com/en-gb/plastic-poly-matt-white-labels-200-x-289mm (https://www.a4labels.com/en-gb/plastic-poly-matt-white-labels-200-x-289mm)
You can print on them with a laser or inkjet printer
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on May 27, 2020, 08:48:04 AM

[...] you need to remember I am a Yorkshire Dinosaur and will remain in my DC world, like many of us.

Certainly not a dinosaur if you have an electric train set... and two-rail at that.  Clockwork is the preserve of the genuine dinosaur!  :)

With regard to the non-working semaphore signals you mentioned in your earlier post, I have used the PD Marsh ones.  They are all pulled 'off', as a signalman late on the lever is less offensive to my eye than a signal passed at danger.  I make the signals very easily removable, so that, if required for a photograph, another signal in the 'on' position can be put in place.

Thank you for your interesting posts and excellent photographs.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 27, 2020, 01:07:08 PM
First, I will have to transfer the track plan onto the panel top and drill the many holes for the switches, you need to remember I am a Yorkshire Dinosaur and will remain in my DC world, like many of us.

I found these self-adhesive A4 labels useful for my control panel...
https://www.a4labels.com/en-gb/plastic-poly-matt-white-labels-200-x-289mm (https://www.a4labels.com/en-gb/plastic-poly-matt-white-labels-200-x-289mm)
You can print on them with a laser or inkjet printer

Mike @impinabox (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8399)

Thanks for the suggestion, however, I am already committed to going down the laborious painting route, basically to tie it in with the main control panel theme.

Stay Safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 27, 2020, 01:25:47 PM

[...] you need to remember I am a Yorkshire Dinosaur and will remain in my DC world, like many of us.

Certainly not a dinosaur if you have an electric train set... and two-rail at that.  Clockwork is the preserve of the genuine dinosaur!  :)

With regard to the non-working semaphore signals you mentioned in your earlier post, I have used the PD Marsh ones.  They are all pulled 'off', as a signalman late on the lever is less offensive to my eye than a signal passed at danger.  I make the signals very easily removable, so that, if required for a photograph, another signal in the 'on' position can be put in place.

Thank you for your interesting posts and excellent photographs.

Best wishes.

John

John @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222)

Thank you for your kind words

Also thank you for helping me to come to a conclusion on the signals (I think), I was minded to go down the PD Marsh route, which would be the LNER wooden post type, however, I think I will replace the ladders with brass etch ones as they are much finer detail and possibly add handrails to platforms where required.

I do like your idea of having them temporary fixed, I had already seen this on your thread, as I can be a bit clumsy at times when cleaning track and would save me money in the long run.

Yes I agree about having the signals pulled off, certainly that is the way forward on the up and down mains, however I would leave the bay platform signals and branch at danger. Also distant signals at caution, probably donít really need them but would look good just prior to going out of view into the fiddle yard.

I also like your idea of a separate signal in the on position for photographs so will most likely go down that route.

I think it may be wise to have a couple of spare signals in case disaster strikes when cleaning track.

The few ground signals I require, will be scratch built hopefully, maybe slightly out of scale.

Again many thanks

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on May 27, 2020, 01:33:27 PM
The few ground signals I require, will be scratch built hopefully, maybe slightly out of scale.


Or, if you're ordering from PD Marsh, these....................

https://www.pdmarshmodels.com/collections/n-signals/products/b300-1-ground-signals-5 (https://www.pdmarshmodels.com/collections/n-signals/products/b300-1-ground-signals-5)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 27, 2020, 01:40:27 PM
Or have a look at  :    https://northwesternmodels.co.uk/products/categories/n-gauge/trackside-details-n-gauge/page/2/
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 27, 2020, 03:12:37 PM

Or, if you're ordering from PD Marsh, these....................

https://www.pdmarshmodels.com/collections/n-signals/products/b300-1-ground-signals-5 (https://www.pdmarshmodels.com/collections/n-signals/products/b300-1-ground-signals-5)

@Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) and @crewearpley40 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3894)

Thank you for taking the time to suggest the PD Marsh ground signals, much appreciated.

I was aware of these but had discounted because they seem quite large and chunky, disproportionately out of scale for N. I appreciate that most small items in the scale are oversized, it is just a function of what is stable and can be manufactured.

That is why I have chosen to try and scratchbuild, a simple but hopefully effective ground signal, but if the project fails I would probably take another look at PD Marsh.

Thanks again for your support

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 27, 2020, 09:28:33 PM
Hillsden Day 31

The sun has shone all day and has been very warm, indeed it has tired me out, so not too much to report of life in Hillsden.  :doh:

The day started by doing all those household chores in the home, plus an hour or so on WhatsApp with friends in Durham. No Cummings and goings here.  ::)

Finally after a late lunch I escaped to the near town of Hillsden, but not for long, the heat was too much for me and needed a long cold drink in a glass.

In my brief stay in Hillsden I did manage to install two of the three lengths of fencing constructed yesterday, so progress was made. Hillsden is a separate well insulated room taking half of a double garage, but when it is very hot outside and the doors are open it negates the insulation. I also keep forgetting the electric heater can blow cold air and I have inherited a fan with a stand sat outside the door to Hillsden.  :doh: :doh:

Well after a nice cold drink I gave the new control panel lid a couple of coats of white  paint, so I can now mark up the mimic diagram, annotate it and drill the holes and fix the various switches.

Early afternoon Sebastian the delivery driver from DPD delivering a small parcel for me, this contained the matt varnish I ordered, so I can now finally finish off the roads that have caused so much problems and wasted time. This will be a repair job for the councils contractors before the end of the week, providing the heat is not a problem. You know what itís like when they spray and chip the roads in hot weather.

You may have read in an earlier post today, that I have finally decided what signal to fix on the layout, so I have been looking at the track diagram to decide what is required, which I believe is eight home and three distant signals, I still need to come to terms with the requirement for ground signals.

I have also been giving some thought to whether I could lay dummy point ridding from say microstrip to add another detail to the layout. When the signal box is in its final position I will experiment to see if it is effective.

I will soon need to visit the local garden centres to look at sheds, greenhouses and cold frames, the terrace houses on Sunny Bank require some of these items within the back gardens, which back onto the railway.

 I will be looking to purchase from the garden centre 2 no 6í x 4í sheíd, 1 no 8í x 6í greenhouse and 2no cold frames.

However, these will be a great burden on the wallet, so looks like I will have to bodge them, sorry scratch build.

Well thatís for another day, plenty to keep me busy. Soon will need to do some planting, but will resist laying the lawns, the grass needs too much maintenance.  ::)

Anyway this evening I started transferring the track plan for the mimic panel, got around 50% complete, so maybe soon I will be getting out the paints, to colour in those track markings, hopefully not going outside the lines, maybe I should get my granddaughter to help me, I am sure she would probably do a better job.

Yet again I havenít taken any new photos today, so I had a look at some previously taken ones that I hadnít published to the forum, so todayís photo is of the WD on coal empties, passing the terrace houses at Sunny Bank

The fence has since been completed from the gardens to the retaining wall and I have started landscaping the area painted green. Some of the existing landscaping requires re-doing, unfortunately the PVA used was old and did not dry clear, another lesson learnt some time ago.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-270520201914.jpeg)

Anyway thatís it for today, hope you enjoyed

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 27, 2020, 09:36:39 PM
Glad the conference call went ok  , hope you can put fans in the garage. I have two small oscillating fans, great on a hot afternoon when at home just to keep the other half cool and me chilling. She slept after a 630 am start for work and me a 6am start. Home to fans on  , water for both of us and kitten and crack on with odd jobs on my layout. Worth investigating and buying a fan
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 28, 2020, 10:27:15 PM
Hillsden Day 32

Starting to sound a little boring but the Sun has shon all day again in Hillsden and still no sign of rain.  :(

Decided today not to take the short walk into Hillsden until early evening, however it was still very warm at 7:00 pm, so decided not to work on the layout, and just took the time to take a few new photographs. I do hope for a cooler day tomorrow, but judging by the forecast it is going to be anything but.

I spent most of the day in the house, working on the additional control panel, first I finished marking the track plan out, then marked the position of all the switches and making sure there were no clashes. Next drilled umpteen holes for the switches, hoping I had got them all right, well I would soon find out.

Next I started installing the various switches a few at a time, having a little rest in between and a cup of coffee or a long cool drink. Oh I also had a siesta for a hour and felt much better for it. I only got 50% or thereabouts of the switches installed, my left hand got cramps from holding the switches tight whilst I tightened the nuts with my right hand. The hand does become troublesome at times and have to rest it.  :(

Anyway on counting the switches, I found I was two short, surly I had not got the order wrong (I donít make mistakes lol). No the order was correct, what I had decided at the outset was to mark the point to the branch line on the panel but only as a visual, one forgot didnít he and drilled two additional holes in the panel for the point. Ah well it turned out ok as I do have some spares left over from the main panel construction, which are held in store for repairs, a lucky escape, so I will power them up just in case. Measure twice cut once springs to mind or IDIOT.  :doh:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-280520205538.jpeg)

Gave some time thinking about the signal physical location on the layout and decided I may have to get the civil engineers in to make localised adjustments in the cutting areas, should have given more thought at the start of the layout, my excuse is I was young and stupid, now just plain stupid.

Also started reading up on where the layout requires ground signals and the number of discs per signal, still havenít got my head fully around this at the moment.

Finished the evening off with another session painting my many waggon kits.

Hopefully can get back to working on the layout tomorrow but it depends on the weather, if not I could be wielding that hot soldering iron about on the control panel, will report back providing I donít have any accidents doing the ďHot WorkĒ with the iron.  ::)


Stay safe

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 28, 2020, 10:42:00 PM
Rats Take Over Hillsden

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-280520205804.jpeg)

Here we have three generations of Graham Farish, an original Poole built, a Farish built in China and finally a Bachmann Farish built in China.

The British Rail Sulzer Type 2 were numerous, a total of 477, looking through my old Ian Allen combined volume, I saw 278 of them across the network.

If you compare this photo with yesterdayís offering, you will notice a slight difference with the scenery, can you spot the difference (no I donít mean the locomotives on display)

The class 24 at the rear has not had its detailing kit added yet, nor the head code disks, before anyone asks

Enjoy

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 28, 2020, 11:20:36 PM
Not that much difference with the locos between them but I did notice the fencing, nice pic. I have noticed 1 or 2 mistakes with my control panel but I am not redoing it, I will leave it as it is. It is still better than the first one I made.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on May 29, 2020, 07:28:07 AM
That looks like a pretty comprehensive control panel, Mike.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 29, 2020, 07:52:43 AM
Rats Take Over Hillsden

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-280520205804.jpeg)

Here we have three generations of Graham Farish, an original Poole built, a Farish built in China and finally a Bachmann Farish built in China.

The British Rail Sulzer Type 2 were numerous, a total of 477, looking through my old Ian Allen combined volume, I saw 278 of them across the network.

If you compare this photo with yesterdayís offering, you will notice a slight difference with the scenery, can you spot the difference (no I donít mean the locomotives on display)

The class 24 at the rear has not had its detailing kit added yet, nor the head code disks, before anyone asks

Enjoy

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
     love the diesels just have to find some suitable stock
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on May 29, 2020, 07:59:42 AM
May I asked where you sourced the green pushbuttons from, please? Our local electronics outlets here only have red and black ones.

Never seen green ones before!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 29, 2020, 08:18:15 AM
May I asked where you sourced the green pushbuttons from, please? Our local electronics outlets here only have red and black ones.

Never seen green ones before!  :thumbsup:

Hi George, @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255)

They are from Squires Tools squirestools.com , they supply various colours, I have green, black and yellow ones on my main panel.
The prices on their website are out of date, and they do not accept online payments, I usually email order and follow up with phone call to give card details.

They attend most of the major model railway shows in the UK, ie York, Warley etc.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 29, 2020, 08:37:31 AM
Could be fun obtaining if in aussie https://www.railwayscenics.com/push-button-switches-c-20_27_68.html (https://www.railwayscenics.com/push-button-switches-c-20_27_68.html)   could we ship you some george ?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on May 29, 2020, 08:41:53 AM
Thanks, folks!  :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 29, 2020, 08:45:24 AM
A certain eb*y may help george or emailing retailers to see what costs are, shipping etc. I'm surprised you only have a local store which sells 2 coloured buttons
 
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 29, 2020, 09:22:31 AM
Could be fun obtaining if in aussie https://www.railwayscenics.com/push-button-switches-c-20_27_68.html (https://www.railwayscenics.com/push-button-switches-c-20_27_68.html)   could we ship you some george ?

Thanks for that, another supplier I didnít know about

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 29, 2020, 09:24:35 AM
A certain eb*y may help george or emailing retailers to see what costs are, shipping etc. I'm surprised you only have a local store which sells 2 coloured buttons

I am surprised they were red and black, would have thought green and gold would be standard in Australia

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 29, 2020, 09:32:12 AM
Try https://www.heathcote-electronics.co.uk/switches.html (https://www.heathcote-electronics.co.uk/switches.html)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 29, 2020, 09:33:17 AM
And here .....https://www.newmodellersshop.co.uk/electronic-switches.htm (https://www.newmodellersshop.co.uk/electronic-switches.htm)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 29, 2020, 09:42:46 PM

Hillsden Day 33


Another hot and sunny day greeted me in Hillsden today, after the previous two days and achieving very little on the layout, I had a cunning plan, but no doubt someone would spoil it, as they do.  :doh:

My plan was get up early, which I did and was downstairs by 7:30am and having my breakfast, so after breakfast washed up and tidied the kitchen, whilst my wife took the dogs for a walk. The plan was get to Hillsden before it got too hot, so set off on the long walk (all of ten yards from the kitchen), yes escaped with the intention of finishing off the last piece of fencing I had prepared and matt varnish the roads, well that was the intention.  ::)

Over the last few days I have appeared happy with the road colour, but something was nagging at me, the seemed a little dark, so guess what I decided to get the paints and brush out. Just about to pour the paint and thin it as I only wanted a thin wash, my wife came back with the dogs which were filthy as they had been in the ditches on their walk.  >:(

So first interruption, had to help her wash and dry the dogs, feed them and make my dear wife a cup of coffee, you see I need to keep in her good books especially as I spend more time in Hillsden than with her.  :angel:

So after that was just setting off again to Hillsden, this time with the wifeís approval, my eldest son arrived with our prescriptions from the chemist, so he left after half an hour and by this time it was 9:30am, best laid plans and all that.  :doh:

Finally got to Hillsden and gave the road a thin wash of a lighter grey, Mr perfectionist was still not happy, so gave it another thin coat after the first one had dried. Meanwhile I fixed the piece of fence, so one good job done which means I can get the landscape contractors in at Sunny Bank terrace.  ???

I still wasnít happy with the road, it appeared that the two thin wet coats had inter reacted with the previous darker coat, story of my life with these roads, anyway decided to call it a day and leave them as they are. Only need to apply the matt varnish and job will be done.  :(

Decided to call it a day and go home for lunch as it was getting warm, however, just before lunch I cut the grass, must stop watering it.

After lunch I continued with the control panel and finally fitted all the switches and decided like yesterday I would have a siesta, so from 2:45 until 4:30 pm slept, well I did get up early.  :sleep:

On waking had a quick visit to Hillsden and decided I would give the roads a quick coat of matt clear varnish. It was warm and I was sweating a little, but more annoying was the matt varnish looked as though it was drying very much a satin finish. Anyway left it to dry fully and returned after tea at around 7:30pm, not amused the roads looked as though it had been raining with 5hat satin finish, I can confirm it hadnít rained.  >:(

I thought now did I mix the varnish long enough, maybe not, so I mixed it again an reapplied, didnít look as though there was any improvement, still a satin finish although not fully dried I have left it until the morning.  >:(

Finally decided exact type of signal required in each location, so I will probably order them over the weekend, possibly need some telegraph poles as well, to follow the railway.

Tonight continued to finish off with a little bit more painting of waggon kits.

Last thing before leaving Hillsden I took a few photograph in the evening sun over the town, hope you approve.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-290520203735.jpeg)

 A2 Bachelors Button departs Hillsden with an express train of mark 1ís in the evening sun.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 29, 2020, 09:48:46 PM
On the subject of poles mike ....   https://images.app.goo.gl/dc6vuVhLB6z7k97n7 (https://images.app.goo.gl/dc6vuVhLB6z7k97n7) and    https://www.petersspares.com/modelscene-5182-telegraph-poles-pk8-n-gauge.ir (https://www.petersspares.com/modelscene-5182-telegraph-poles-pk8-n-gauge.ir)             I used these https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/brands/Ratio/R211 (https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/brands/Ratio/R211)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 29, 2020, 10:14:04 PM
I thought now did I mix the varnish long enough, maybe not, so I mixed it again an reapplied, didnít look as though there was any improvement, still a satin finish although not fully dried I have left it until the morning.  >:(

You could try giving it a dusting of rattle-can Humbrol acrylic matt varnish 49, I find that a reliable matt for killing the shine on scenic bits.  I've recently been blasting it over some of my track :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 29, 2020, 10:21:02 PM

You could try giving it a dusting of rattle-can Humbrol acrylic matt varnish 49, I find that a reliable matt for killing the shine on scenic bits.  I've recently been blasting it over some of my track :thumbsup:

Steve,

Thanks for that, I have some brush on Humbrol acrylic Matt varnish, which I was going to try in the morning, hopefully with successful results

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 30, 2020, 10:36:51 AM

You could try giving it a dusting of rattle-can Humbrol acrylic matt varnish 49, I find that a reliable matt for killing the shine on scenic bits.  I've recently been blasting it over some of my track :thumbsup:

Steve,

Thanks for that, I have some brush on Humbrol acrylic Matt varnish, which I was going to try in the morning, hopefully with successful results

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

Well I have given the roads two coats of Humbrol Acrylic Matt varnish this morning, not much better, in fact quite deflated as I have spent far too much time on these roads, they are detracting from getting other things done on the layout.

Next course of action is to leave for a few days and risk going back to enamel Matt varnish, which caused the start of the problems and keep fingers crossed. At least I know it will give a proper matt finish.

If this fails then back to starting again  :(

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 30, 2020, 10:50:04 AM
Try the rattle can.  I gave up on pots and brushes after just such experiences.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 30, 2020, 12:37:07 PM
Try the rattle can.  I gave up on pots and brushes after just such experiences.

Steve,

I might have to try the can sprays, my only concern is spray control as the road is amongst all of the buildings, so from that point of view brushing is probably best.

Stay safe

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 30, 2020, 12:51:03 PM
my only concern is spray control as the road is amongst all of the buildings, so from that point of view brushing is probably best.

That's indeed the issue.  I spread supermarket carrier bags or bin liners around leaving just a letterbox to spray through.  Too lazy to faff with proper masking :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 30, 2020, 10:26:46 PM


Hillsden Day 34


A little bit of a slow day today in Hillsden

Still trying to get over the disappointment of a couple of wasted days trying to get a matt finish to the roads, see earlier posts.  :'(

I have now decided to take the plunge and the risk, which hopefully is now minimal by reverting to enamel matt varnish to get the final finish, I have already experimented with two small areas where I have applied a thin coat, all looks fine except the areas do need a thicker coating but we seem to be at long last moving in the right direction.  ::)

The varnish issue has delayed the landscaping works near to the roads and also the commencement of the local council bringing Hillsden into modern era with the installation of street lighting columns. Hillsden will steel retain a few gas lights, which I still remember from my home village of Mytholmroyd during the early sixties. So combination of both should look quite natural, however the station itself will be modernised with electric lights.  :)

There is one other problem with the lighting, the columns need painting before erection. Another job to do  :doh:

Note quite finished the fencing yet, certainly need to purchase another pack of PECO three rail fencing, to complete the fence to the unmade footway to the station from Midgley Road and the entrance to the goods yard. There is also a length of station fencing to be installed between platform four retaining wall and the entrance to the goods yard.

I do need to have some thoughts about what other trees I need to purchase when next at the local garden centre, these will be mature deciduous trees and no doubt will have a hefty price tag and will need a mobile crane to help during the installation. Transport from the garden centre will need to be planned carefully as these will be wide loads and may require the appropriate road closures.  ???

Anyway finally sat down with a hot soldering iron and started wiring up a 25 way D type connector for the new control panel and documenting which pin is which. At the current speed I can see this taking quite some time to complete. Although I did manage to wire a 25 way one complete.  :D

Now what is worrying me more is at the railway club, we still have a numerous amount of wiring to finish for our new layout, when meetings can be recommenced, a job I am not looking forward too.  :doh:

When the main control panel for Hillsden was built I carefully documented everything so I could easily fault trace should a problem occur. The panel was modified since its original build to accommodate the addition of the branch
 line and the increase in size of the fiddle yard, these changes were also documented.

Now I will be modifying again for the additional panel and additional storage in the fiddle yard for the branch line, I have discovered a little problem, I have lost the original documentation from the first build, so now looks as though I will have to spend time tracing and re-documenting, just great. Ah well these things are all sent to try us.  ???

Tonight I finally got around to ordering the signals for Hillsden, so I will soon have even more work to do, it is never ending and yes the wife is aware, but not about the couple of waggon kits I also bought.  ::)

I have also continued painting those pesky waggon kits that I keep putting off, tonight I weathered the chassis to the southern vans and shark and finished the final coat to the sides of the shark. Working on seven wagons at the moment.

Dare I say there is a Greeley Full Break and the Horsebox, also partly painted on the workbench, they have been there since the beginning of February.  :doh:

Havenít not taken any new photographs today, todayís offering is a different view of the A2 taken yesterday.

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A2 crosses the viaduct after departing Hillsden, on what was a lovely sunny evening in May

Hope you have enjoyed todayís update

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 30, 2020, 11:00:25 PM
I do not envy you wiring up the 25 way din connectors, I did it on my old control panel on the old layout.
A cheat which I never thought of before I did mine was to buy a printer cable with female/male ends and cut the cable, it saves you soldering the connectors. It is a pity you do not have a airbrush to do your roads, you have more fine control where the paint goes.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 31, 2020, 09:56:05 AM
I do not envy you wiring up the 25 way din connectors, I did it on my old control panel on the old layout.
A cheat which I never thought of before I did mine was to buy a printer cable with female/male ends and cut the cable, it saves you soldering the connectors. It is a pity you do not have a airbrush to do your roads, you have more fine control where the paint goes.

Thanks Chris @lil chris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784)

Soldering 25way D types not too bad, a least their are only four this time, I have something like 24 to do on the club layout, there is something like 28 on Hillsden already, as it is a portable layout, that’s never left the room.

Happy today, roads are now looking good, some touching up to do and other minor repairs, but can now move on.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 31, 2020, 03:31:01 PM
The landscape gardeners turned up in Hillsden today at last, driving over in their pickup, they spent all morning rotovating three small areas, to ready for the seeding and planting in due course.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-310520150642.jpeg)

The above photo is the area on Midgley Road outside the fruit and veg wholesales and Thornber's at the junction with Burnley Road.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-310520150732.jpeg)

The above is at the side of the entrance road to the goods yard

I hope they have swept up the debris that has ended up in the road before they left today.

That's it for now, will be back later with a full update  :)

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: belstone on May 31, 2020, 08:41:48 PM

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-290520203735.jpeg)

 A2 Bachelors Button departs Hillsden with an express train of mark 1ís in the evening sun.


Just browsing through some of the layout threads and I saw this, great photo and very atmospheric.  I know it's a different part of the country but this reminds me somehow of the southbound exit from Hawick station, with the line climbing away on an embankment at rooftop level.  As it happens 60537 was a Haymarket-based loco and a Waverley Route regular: 60526 Sugar Palm (allocated York North 1948-62) would be ideal for you if you can get the nameplates.

Richard
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 31, 2020, 08:45:18 PM

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 A2 Bachelors Button departs Hillsden with an express train of mark 1ís in the evening sun.



Just browsing through some of the layout threads and I saw this, great photo and very atmospheric.  I know it's a different part of the country but this reminds me somehow of the southbound exit from Hawick station, with the line climbing away on an embankment at rooftop level.  As it happens 60537 was a Haymarket-based loco and a Waverley Route regular: 60526 Sugar Palm (allocated York North 1948-62) would be ideal for you if you can get the nameplates.

Richard
   seconded try these people :     http://www.sherwoodmodels.co.uk/prestashop/207-lner-4-6-2-classes-a1-a2-a3-and-a4-locomotive-nameplates (http://www.sherwoodmodels.co.uk/prestashop/207-lner-4-6-2-classes-a1-a2-a3-and-a4-locomotive-nameplates)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 31, 2020, 08:49:00 PM
Mike.    https://fox-transfers.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?q=60537   
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: belstone on May 31, 2020, 09:46:15 PM
Mike.    https://fox-transfers.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?q=60537

Fox Transfers don't have 60526 and neither do Modelmaster:

https://modelmaster.uk/461-2mm-scale-br-ex-lner-nameplates?p=8

I do wonder how many of these nameplates they actually sell.  One of my future projects when I am feeling brave will be to convert an A2 into an A2/3, 60519 "Honeyway".  Amazingly, I can buy nameplates for the beast. 

Richard
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: belstone on May 31, 2020, 09:53:14 PM
And just to tie everything together, here's "Honeyway" departing Hawick in typical Borders weather, March 1962.  Embankments and rooftops. (photo from Ian Bell collection).

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Stobs/i-LxtbXsK/0/e78b4d30/L/honeyway-L.jpg)

Richard
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 31, 2020, 09:56:18 PM
Mike.    https://fox-transfers.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?q=60537

Fox Transfers don't have 60526 and neither do Modelmaster:

https://modelmaster.uk/461-2mm-scale-br-ex-lner-nameplates?p=8

I do wonder how many of these nameplates they actually sell.  One of my future projects when I am feeling brave will be to convert an A2 into an A2/3, 60519 "Honeyway".  Amazingly, I can buy nameplates for the beast. 

Richard
  noticed but could always ask the question or have another number
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on May 31, 2020, 10:02:51 PM
Mike's photo is indeed similar to your 1962 prototype photo, Richard. Well spotted, and shows just what a good photo Mike's is.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 31, 2020, 10:14:40 PM
Hillsden Day 35

This is getting a bit boring now, sun yet again in Hillsden, although we did have a nice breeze today.

Well before breakfast I hurried into Hillsden to check on the roadworks, I am glad to report that last nights coat of matt varnish was a success except for a few minor issues which can easily be repaired.

I did say yesterday that I was going to wait a few days before applying the enamel matt varnish, Well impatience and the need to move on got the better of me.

First there are some areas where in my hurry I didn’t cover, especially down one section of kerb line and a couple of other areas, these can be carefully varnished with a thin coat. In other areas there are again some faint white patches, obviously a reaction, these appear to be areas where I applied too much varnish and it took longer to dry, hence more time to react with its surroundings. I have spoken to Baldrick and have a cunning plan to deal with these areas. I will just get the Hillsden District Council to send one of their road repair gangs to patch the road up. So as in real life (not that this isn’t) the road will be a patchwork of repairs, where a drain has been newly laid, water or gas main leak occurred etc. You know those people who dig up and badly repair our roads and streets on regular basis, in other words another bodge up.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-310520150549.jpeg)

Above photo is as road surface looks now

Anyway I can now move on with other details on the layout, you hopefully will have seen from my earlier post the landscapers put in half a shift this morning, hope they come back soon.

This afternoon I continued work on the additional control panel and I am pleased to report that the “D” type connectors have been fully wired and now have a umbilical cored to connect to the main control panel. I did cheat a little I only wired up 13 pins instead of 25 on the second connector, I had estimated that I only needed 34 connection, so unless I have got it wrong there should still be four spare ready connected. So quite pleased, except for trying to solder my finger with the hot iron OUCH.

Hopefully the next two or three days should see this panel wired up, then after tackle the modifications to the existing panel. So after that who knows if trains will ever run again, will Beeching get the final say.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-310520150426.jpeg)

I stated in last nights post, that I had bought a couple of waggon kits, these were the Peco 9’ wheelbase, 16t coal waggon and the iron ore tipper, if I see these I tend to buy them, as around £13 for two wagons is a lot more cost effective than buying two new Farish items at today’s prices.

Anyway that’s it for today, hope you enjoyed today’s visit.

Stay safe

Mike H   8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on May 31, 2020, 10:38:04 PM
I see your control panel is coming along,  I wish mine was, I am waiting for mr Postie to deliver my goods.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on May 31, 2020, 10:49:38 PM
Very well executed panel with uber-neat wiring.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on May 31, 2020, 11:13:42 PM
Very well executed panel with uber-neat wiring.  :thumbsup:

 :thankyousign:

Thank you for those kind words

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on June 01, 2020, 09:46:52 AM
Hillsden Day 35
I have spoken to Baldrick and have a cunning plan to deal with these areas.

I just bet that plan is so cunning you could put whiskers on it and call it a fox ;D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 01, 2020, 10:48:34 PM

Hillsden Day 36

Another month started today and yet again we had blue sky and sun all day, however not too hot for Nbodger. It has been a strange day, not sure where the time has gone, it seems as though there are not enough days in the hours.

Spent a couple of hours on Zoom calls, one to ex work colleagues and the second to my partners in crime on the committee of the North Lincolnshire Area Group of the N Gauge society, where I am the treasurer of the group. As we are unable to meet up we have kept in weekly contact during this pandemic, we are all itching to get back to work on our new exhibition layout.

I spent a couple of hours in the afternoon doing some more constructive work on the new control panel, for which I have taken over the dining room table. Managed to get the controller feeds and isolation switches wired up, so that only leaves the point controls, may get these done tomorrow, but I do fancy a change. I am pleased with the progress made in a relative short period of time.

Finally visited Hillsden around tea time and found that the landscape contractors had been again, undertaking another section of rotavating, I was a little annoyed though as they hadnít cleaned the  roads from yesterday. They tell me they will be back tomorrow to do possibly a little planting. Wells hereís hoping it will be nice to see a little more greenery in the town.

The fencing contractor spent a short time making up some more fence panels for installation, however, they soon ran out of materials, tomorrow they will hopefully install the panels they made up today, that will only leave three lengths of fencing to do, which will equate to around a box of three rail fencing manufactured by those nice people in Beer.

There was another visitor in Hillsden today a very large spider, looks as though I will have to get hold of Mr Dyson (other cleaners available) and have a good clean of the railway room. So watch out spiders I am coming after you.  :-\

Today I had a rummage through the cupboards in the railway room, well what did I find, not one but two coach kits I had forgotten about. They are both ULTIMATE (2mm/N) MODELS bought many, many years ago at York Model Railway Show at £14 each, Well what are they, they are a Thompson 63í Corridor third and a Thompson 63í Full Brake, yes another two kits to build, paint and weather, so could be an interesting build, but I have the Gresley Full Break, Society kit still in the paint shop since February. First I must finish all those waggon kits first.  >:(


So not a lot done today, however, seem to have found me more to do, so hope for a more productive day tomorrow.


Following the interest that was shown regarding the photograph of A2 Bachelors Button and the subsequent black and white photograph posted by @belstone (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2569)  I have reposted my photograph this time in black and white, which I think is a little more evocative and takes you back to the early sixties.

What do you think?

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-010620211736.jpeg)

Thatís it for today, hope you enjoyed todayís exploits

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 01, 2020, 10:54:16 PM
Thumbs up from me.  :thumbsup:

A good picture made better! Most definitely like the prototype photo now!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 01, 2020, 10:54:41 PM
Atmospheric shot with the natural light on the buildings
 Worthy of steam magazine mike
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on June 02, 2020, 07:08:49 AM
That photograph works well in black and white for me.

Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: chrism on June 02, 2020, 07:23:20 AM
It certainly does, especially with that little ray of light through which the loco is passing.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on June 02, 2020, 07:28:25 AM
I agree.  It has a Trains Illustrated look about it.  From 1957/8?

Best wishes.

John

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 02, 2020, 07:39:17 AM
Or Great Railway Photographs by Bishop Eric!  :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 02, 2020, 08:27:44 AM
Gents,

Thank you for your kind comments on the B&W photograph, very much appreciated.

It is amazing that Just one photograph  taken in innocence a few days ago has caused quite a conversation and thank you all for your contributions.

Last nights B&W version came about because I was looking at some photographs taken 20 months ago of the layout, which was an experiment in B&W photography to see how the layout looked. I had been quite pleased with these which had deliberately taken in B&W.

Then I started thinking about the photograph by Belstone that had been posted, and looked at digitally changing my photo to  B&W, hence yesterday evenings post. I was quite pleased with outcome and judging by your comments you all are too.

I am thinking in future to take more B&W photo’s on Hillsden to add a bit of variety and hopefully will take you back to the age it depicts.

Again thank you very much for your comments and interest

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 02, 2020, 08:49:40 AM
I think you are talking about the photo that belstone posted, Mike?  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 02, 2020, 09:01:26 AM
I think you are talking about the photo that belstone posted, Mike?  :thumbsup:

George

Thanks my mistake, I must have been waiting for my breakfast read from your good self.

I have now corrected it

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 02, 2020, 09:20:19 AM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 02, 2020, 09:30:55 PM
Hillsden Day 37

Well another bright and sunny day here in Hillsden, hopefully will get some rain during the night as the garden desperately need it.
It has not been a bad day today, got quite a bit done in the development of Hillsden, however, at times the heat did get a little too much.  ::)

Late morning, I assembled two lengths of fencing for the contractors to install, the first length was installed just before lunch, with a lot of swearing as I drilled some of the post holes in the wrong place and had to order some more. On completion didnít look too bad, this formed the fencing to one side of the access road to the goods yard, similarly after lunch the fence to opposite side of the road was installed. Driven posts were not used for the fence but the post holes were augured out with a hand drill and filled with concrete (pva). These were left to set in the hot sun hovering over Hillsden.  :)

I did have a little drama and caused some minor damage to the road surface, the drill slipped and scratched the road surface, more repair work, these roads have become the pain of my life.  :smackedface:

I followed the fencing with some more work to the additional control panel, the work that I had done yesterday looked really neat and tidy and I was quite pleased with myself so sat down first marking the point reference numbers on the back of the panel adjacent the switches, to make it easy to trace. Then to my horror I realized that I had inadvertently turned the front panel around yesterday whilst working on it. Yesterdays work was all wired up correctly and the wire lengths were a little bit shorter than desired the panel was orientated the correct way.  :smackedface:  Anyway, decided to live with it, the wiring didnít quite look as neat as it was when I started. Another one to chalk up to the long list of learnings. During the afternoon I achieved around 60% of the cabling to the point switches, one more good session should see all the cabling completed.

After tea when it was a little cooler, I went back to Hillsden, removed the temporary supports to the fencing installed earlier, and it looks ok, so quite pleased.  :) I was that pleased I thought I would try my hand at a little bit of landscaping.  ???

I sowed some grass, wild flowers to the waste land between the access road to the goods yard and the retaining wall to Burnley Road, the intention is for this to be rough grassland with the odd tree.

Please see the state of play this evening, the tree is just plonked to see how it looked.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-020620202321.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-020620202455.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-020620202637.jpeg)

Not quite sure about the above finish, possibly add some clump shrubs, will take another look when the pva has dried in the morning and re-asses.
 
Any comments as regarding finish, trees etc.

Please note there is no static grass in Hillsden, some of the cuttings were undertaken many years ago and as far as I can remember static grass was but a dream, so had to carry on with the materials I started with.

I also plonked a couple of trees to see how they fit on the small landscaped areas on Midgley Road, outside Thornberís and the Fruit and veg wholesalers. I am happy with the trees in these positions but I think they need to be a darker green.

What are your opinions.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-020620202810.jpeg)

Sorry folks there wasnít any picture to excite as yesterdays post, back to mundane things today but who knows what may happen in the future.
 
Well thatís a wrap for today, thank you for taking time to read, hope you enjoyed todays exploits

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 02, 2020, 09:40:02 PM
Those trees  will help bring the scene to life
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on June 02, 2020, 10:40:23 PM
Fencing is looking good not sure about those two tree's, I do agree I think they need to be greener. You could try spraying them with some glue and sprinkling some flock on them.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 02, 2020, 10:48:28 PM
Unless it's just the lighting in that photograph, definitely need a darker green.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 02, 2020, 11:08:12 PM
Unless it's just the lighting in that photograph, definitely need a darker green.  :thumbsup:

George the trees do look lighter in the photo, due to the room light above, the tree at the front is the true colour, although I think they both need to be a shade of green similar to the first three photographs.

Fencing is looking good not sure about those two tree's, I do agree I think they need to be greener. You could try spraying them with some glue and sprinkling some flock on them.

Chris, I will just replace them or dye them a darker green, but I do think if the colour was ok then they would not look out of place.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 02, 2020, 11:31:18 PM
They look fine there, but are in a different season.

Throw 'em in a Tardis for a couple of minutes. No need to fiddle on with paint, flock and stuff then.  :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on June 03, 2020, 06:55:59 AM
I think that the trees are just fine.
To me the colour is spot on.

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on June 03, 2020, 08:03:08 AM
The trees are fine MIke.  Where we live there is an abundance of trees and if you walk down the road you will see everything from almost yellow to very dark copper beach.  So stick with it!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 03, 2020, 03:43:29 PM
The trees are fine MIke.  Where we live there is an abundance of trees and if you walk down the road you will see everything from almost yellow to very dark copper beach.  So stick with it!

Thank you all for your varied responses on the tree issue, unfortunately the result was not decisive and remained 50:50. This meant I had to phone a friend as the audience had failed to give me confidence.

Unfortunately we are in lockdown so the choice of friend was limited, it was either one of two dogs or my wife.

So Mrs Nbodger gave her advice  :headbutt: she took all my tree stock and totally rearranged everything. Yes those controversial light coloured trees have gone and have been replaced with darker green trees of a different type.

However, some of the lighter coloured ones have reappeared around the station area. To be fair they do not photograph well and exaggerate any light when photographed. As Laurence stated above you can walk down a line of trees in a built up area and see all shades during one season.

Anyway the upshot is that I have now been told where all the trees are going, so as I canít fix them in final position yet I have had to photograph them in their current positions.

The problem was with letting Mrs Nbodger into Hillsden I started getting awkward questions like when did you buy that, perhaps I should have asked one of the dogs.

Anyway thank you all very much for your valued opinions it was greatly appreciated.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: weave on June 03, 2020, 04:04:35 PM
Hi Mike,

Sorry, forgot to cast my vote but the yellowy leaved tree is probably a Robinia, deciduous but the leaves are that colour all the time when in leaf and they would probably be planted in 'nicer' areas (like the station area) rather than in industrial back lanes in my opinion.

Bit late but think your wife has the right idea re design, not interrogation though :no:

Like the rough grassed area.

All great stuff.

Cheers, weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on June 03, 2020, 05:00:39 PM
Yes I agree about the trees, maybe it was the type of tree that did not fit the location as Weave said. Yes it can be a danger when swmbo enters the railway room. With mine being off work it is a bit of a problem for me, and parcels keep coming.....lol
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on June 03, 2020, 06:36:48 PM
Yes it can be a danger when swmbo enters the railway room. With mine being off work it is a bit of a problem for me, and parcels keep coming.....lol

@lil chris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784)
Best not try this, Chris.......
https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=49842.msg645321#msg645321 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=49842.msg645321#msg645321)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on June 03, 2020, 08:02:05 PM
So Mrs Nbodger gave her advice  :headbutt: she took all my tree stock and totally rearranged everything. Yes those controversial light coloured trees have gone and have been replaced with darker green trees of a different type.

Sometimes a different eye is what's needed - they looked OK to me, but whatever you do, don't shift them, especially now the planning lead has given their instructions  :laugh:

However, some of the lighter coloured ones have reappeared around the station area. To be fair they do not photograph well and exaggerate any light when photographed. As Laurence stated above you can walk down a line of trees in a built up area and see all shades during one season.

Not all bad then, thinking things like silver birch have very light green leaves this time of year, especially in full sun, you could paint the trunks with a pale wash to give the impression of silver birch bark?

Anyway the upshot is that I have now been told where all the trees are going, so as I canít fix them in final position yet I have had to photograph them in their current positions.
Love this quote 'now I've been told'  :laugh:

The problem was with letting Mrs Nbodger into Hillsden I started getting awkward questions like when did you buy that, perhaps I should have asked one of the dogs.
Ohhh no, were you able to wriggle out of the questioning, or was it a full waterboarding session - hope you didn't tell her the truth about how much things really cost  :smiley-laughing:

Best of luck ducking and diving Mike..

Cheers Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on June 03, 2020, 08:34:34 PM
It's a do or don't situation with not telling them the price of things. My Mrs encourages me to do the railway, probably to get me out the way. The thing is when I eventually pop my cloggs I do not want somebody else getting all this equipment for naff all when I have had to pay a fortune for it, or is that just me.....lol
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 03, 2020, 08:41:56 PM
It's a do or don't situation with not telling them the price of things. My Mrs encourages me to do the railway, probably to get me out the way. The thing is when I eventually pop my cloggs I do not want somebody else getting all this equipment for naff all when I have had to pay a fortune for it, or is that just me.....lol

I was asked the other day by Mrs Nbodger what should she do with the railway when I depart.

So not sure what she is planning for me

Stay safe

Mike H 8)


Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on June 03, 2020, 08:51:31 PM
It's a do or don't situation with not telling them the price of things. My Mrs encourages me to do the railway, probably to get me out the way. The thing is when I eventually pop my cloggs I do not want somebody else getting all this equipment for naff all when I have had to pay a fortune for it, or is that just me.....lol

Lol - I know where you are coming from Chris, Iíve got quite a bit of expensive camera gear, my Mrs has an idea how much it all cost, But she was gobsmacked when I told her how much 27 cobalts are going to cost  :laugh:

Cheers Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: weave on June 03, 2020, 08:55:40 PM
Hi Mike,

If I see a new thread in the future called 'Coffin shaped layout with 6 foot helix' I'll call the Police  :D

Cheers, weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on June 03, 2020, 09:39:29 PM
I was asked the other day by Mrs Nbodger what should she do with the railway when I depart.

So not sure what she is planning for me

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/91/264-210420110555-914271765.jpeg)


Anyway the upshot is that I have now been told where all the trees are going

I trust you'll be able to sit down or walk normally afterwards, Mike :worried:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on June 03, 2020, 09:41:38 PM

[Ö] I was asked the other day by Mrs Nbodger what should she do with the railway when I depart.

Mike H 8)

Presumably there is a timetable to be adhered to.  It is a service to the public after all!

And there will be the 'X Examinations' for the locomotives.  Boiler washouts too;  now that's a lovely job!

Mrs Nbodger will be very busy indeed.

Best wishes.

John.

PS Please make sure it is a very long time before you depart.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 03, 2020, 10:08:53 PM
Hillsden Day 38

At long last a little bit of rain both overnight and during the morning, well at least it got me out of watering the garden which had become a bit of a ritual recently.

Today I decided to put the control panel to one side and do something else, I have a total of nine wagons / coaches in the paint shop at the moment and with them blocking my workbench up I thought it was about time I got them into revenue service.  ;)

So, I spent most of the day in the paint shop, painting all the metalwork on six southern vans and the shark ballast plough. I usually paint on an evening but doing the detail work with an OOO brush needs daylight and eyes at their best.
The good news is I completed what I set out to do plus a couple of post boxes to add some bright colour to Hillsden.   ::)

Just after lunch the postman arrived with more goodies for Hillsden and more work to do, it was a delivery from P&D Marsh. These were the LNER wooden post type signals, now you see why I need the workspace and a few pairs of hands. I am however, still awaiting the etched brass ladders and handrails I also ordered. The intention is to replace the kits white metal ladders with etched ones and add handrails to the junction signal platforms, might be a bit of a miss mash but thought the appearance would be better, anyway only time will tell. Not sure when I will get around to building, painting and installing these.  ???

I did also order some ground signals from P&D Marsh to see what they looked like in the flesh, I had stated in a previous post that I would scratch build them, still not fully decided so we will have to see what happens, at present I am open minded.  ???

For those of you who have read my earlier post today, you will know I have been instructed which tree goes where.  :-[

After last nightís request regarding those bright green trees at the junction of Midgley Road and Burnley Road I thought I would change them to this: -

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-030620210304.jpeg)

But in the end, I settled (told) on this, hope you approve, if you donít approve you will have Mrs Nbodger to answer to

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-030620210532.jpeg)

Anyway, the tree debate is over, possibly  ???

Late afternoon finally went to Hillsden to check on progress, the landscape contractors had been again and rotovated another three areas around the station and prepared them for seeding and planting. These areas make up the biggest contract for landscaping to do in Hillsden. As usual the landscapers had not swept up after themselves another job left for me.

Tomorrow hope to get the panel wiring completed but who knows.

Thatís it for today  :sleep:

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 03, 2020, 11:29:16 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
Must say Mike those trees looking superbly realistic & IMO the colour photos are better   
     stay safe regards Derek.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 04, 2020, 09:49:11 PM
Hillsden Day 39

It has been another busy day on the development of Hillsden after having a slow start as I was diverted to play ball with the dogs in the garden for an hour after breakfast.

When Mrs Nbodger took the dogs out for their walk at around 11:00 am I snuck off upstairs to my workbench which as I stated yesterday is overflowing with work to do. Well, I got stuck in and gave the six southern vans and the shark ballast plough a final weathering wash. They now only need a varnish coat and decals. Unfortunately, I havenít ordered the decals yet, so maybe sometime before I can get then, you see after recent events I need to quell the new purchases until the questions from Mrs N have died down.  :worried:

As the decals will be some time, I am going to give the wagons a coat of matt varnish and deliver them to Hillsden, so they can be put into service and clear a much needed space on the workbench. When finished I will post an update with photographs on my workbench thread, hopefully over the weekend.

Unfortunately, I am still waiting for another package which I ordered on Saturday evening, as it is a few days since ordering and also from a supplier I have not used before, I gave them a ring to check all was well. From the phone call I now have a good indication of when they will arrive so I will now hopefully be in a position to intercept the package and squirrel it away before Mrs N gets to the post. Fingers crossed then.  :doh:

 Yesterday the landscape contractors rotavated three areas with a earth coloured flock, today they have given the flock a soaking with diluted PVA to make sure there are no loose bits floating around and ready it for grass seeding and of course planting those controversial trees.   ::)

Today I have courted the fire and the anger of Mrs N as I have been looking at changing one of her very carefully positioned trees for two of the bright green ones that have been subject of posts on this thread. The picture below details Mrs Nís choice around the main station building. I think it is too large and too close to the railway and station building.  :P

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-040620210508.jpeg)

The second photograph shows my choice, which I believe suits the locality better, as there will also be smaller similar trees along station road in front of the station retaining wall.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-040620210803.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-040620211005.jpeg)

Comment if you dare, but if you do comment please whisper as Mrs Nís hearing is very good and life will not be worth living for Nbodger.  :whisper:

Similarly, if I do not post another thread after this evening then you will know it has not gone down well here.  :ouch:

Today I have also completed the wiring to the additional control panel, so have now given back possession of the dining room table, so goodbye to the TV trays. The room still needs a little tidying up, lots of bits of wire and solder everywhere, will get Mr Dyson to do the job, he owes me one. Would you believe I have just about used a 100m roll of cable, no comment about its all the same colour, I was on a budget.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-040620210056.jpeg)

In an earlier post @bealman asked where did the green push to make switches came from, well in a tribute to those down under I complimented the green switches with yellow cable.  :thumbsup:

Anyway, if I survive the evening, I hope to post an update tomorrow  ???

So, stay safe

Mike H  8) 8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 04, 2020, 09:52:28 PM
Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi!!!  :thumbsup:

Great progress.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 04, 2020, 09:53:07 PM
Mike. I like the station building. Do you use plans or draw them yourself, prepare and construct to shape ? Thank you my friend. Chris
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on June 04, 2020, 09:57:34 PM
I know what you mean about waiting for parcels the wife is having a go at me for it at the moment. I am waiting for a coach from a supplier I have not used before, plus some more connectors for my control panel which will be nice but has cost me a fortune.
That first tree does look very large, it is hard to get trees the correct height in N-Gauge, I suppose the height depends on the type of tree but sometimes you can get an idea if it looks right.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on June 04, 2020, 10:08:18 PM
(Whispers) I think your choice of tree is more practical. Let's face it, when the north wind doth blow (and it dotheth!!)...............into the station the tree may go :worried:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 04, 2020, 10:24:29 PM
Mike. I like the station building. Do you use plans or draw them yourself, prepare and construct to shape ? Thank you my friend. Chris

Chris,

The station building is totally my design, first decided the rooms required and approx sizes, then developed the plan, the elevations were then designed to match the room layout I.e. position of windows and doors. The canopy design came next which dictated the height of the wall and finally the roof to the building.

This was actually the third station building for Hillsden, the other two resigned to the bin.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 04, 2020, 10:32:03 PM

That first tree does look very large, it is hard to get trees the correct height in N-Gauge, I suppose the height depends on the type of tree but sometimes you can get an idea if it looks right.

Chris,

Trees are a lot taller than you think, I live next to the railway, when we moved here thirty one years ago, the house was new and there were no trees whatsoever trackside. Over time trees have self seeded and these are well over double the height of our two storey house, so at approx 40 to 50 foot high that is 80 to 100mm in N gauge and these are young trees.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 04, 2020, 10:43:08 PM
Thanks mike that's answered my questions. Really love those photos. I always love stone buildings and have a couple I've seen compared to those CLASP? Buildings i grew up with
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: greenlaneman on June 05, 2020, 11:40:55 AM
crewearpley40,
Yes CLASP - "collection of loosely assembled panels"
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 05, 2020, 11:46:16 AM
Is that a polite way to refer to consortium of local authorities special programme ? Your idea greenlaneman sounds about right. Loose panelling. I still prefer mike ' s lovely buildings
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 05, 2020, 08:57:23 PM
Hillsden Day 40

Itís been a slow quiet day in Hillsden and I have been trying to earn some brownie points from Mrs Nbodger, but no doubt she believes I am up to something, another cunning plan.

After a bit of housework (again keeping the peace) and the daily crossword, nothing too complicated though, I decided I had better cut the grass, after the rain we have had it will be soon grow quickly. Anyway, it is a lot neater and tidier now and I even trimmed the edges.

I had a quick trip into Hillsden, to check what them landscapers were up to, and there was no sign of them, looks as though they have either taken the day off or doing another job, that obviously pays better. Anyway, I will check back later to see if they turn up.

As Mrs N was out with the dogs I quickly disappeared upstairs to my workbench, you know the one that is overflowing with work. Had a look at the wagons I had varnished yesterday evening, a couple required re-doing as they had dried gloss. It is very difficult to know when paints and varnish are stirred well enough to give a matt finish. I usually give the tin a good long stir before use, then say apply to the under frame of a waggon, then stir again, apply to the next wagon, stir again and repeat until all work done, this usually ends up with the first couple non matt but the others are ok.

Well I have now finished varnishing the six southern vans and the shark ballast plough, however there may still be some remedial works to do with the roofs on some of them.

If you remember in one of my earlier posts, I had problems when applying a coat of varnish to the roads, white areas appeared, well this has happened to some, not all of the wagon roofs.

The common denominator would appear to be the grey paint, and it looks to me as though the enamel varnish is causing a reaction with the grey paint and bleaching out the pigment. I have never had this happen on any other colours both enamel and acrylic when using enamel varnish.
Has anyone else had a similar experience?

I ended up giving all the wagons another wash coat after the varnish, as I wasnít completely happy, which happens quite frequently at the moment, think I am trying to do too much at once, whereas I have usually taken my time. The upshot is I am still not happy, not quite the finish I wanted, a little darker, sadly there was too much paint in that additional wash. Anyway, I have put them into service, so for the time being I will move on to something else, who knows the final finish may grow on me.

After lunch I went back to Hillsden to see if the landscapers had turned up to my surprise they had, asked why they were late, they claimed that their van broke down on the way and they had to call out the AA. I am not quite convinced by that excuse.

Well, two areas were seeded and fixed in place with diluted PVA, although the planting of trees still hasnít started, also large area that was rotavated a couple of days ago has also been treated with diluted PVA.

Todayís photographs have been taken around the goods yard area and show class 04 shutter, moving those southern wagons, just brought into service today, although were built many years ago but ran until today unpainted.

Featured is Drewery 0-6-0 shunter number D2246, class 04 to the younger generation and the Farish catalogue. Looking through my 1978 Ian Allanís Combined Volume, this is a locomotive I never spotted, but having seen it run at Hillsden can I claim it as a cop and underline it in aforementioned book.

The wagons featured in the photographs are the recently painted and weathered southern wagons built from the society kit, they still require decals to finish them.

Please enjoy the three photographs below, but please ignore the tree that has fallen on platform 2, it is a bit windy

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-050620173453.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-050620173624.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-050620173755.jpeg)



The layout may be based in the North within Ex LNER and LMS territory but it has a little hint to The Western Region, does anybody no where or how. I donít think you will ever guess it is very obscure, but have a go if you wish. All will be revealed in tomorrow evenings post.

Hope you have enjoyed todayís visit to Hillsden, forty days on the forum and still surviving

Stay safe


Mike H  8) 8)





Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 05, 2020, 09:00:13 PM
Love your layout, the progress mike, the journey you have made , action always and the story . Look forward to the next trip down hilllsden. For real life info on the 04 visit  http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=class&type=D&id=4 (http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=class&type=D&id=4)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 05, 2020, 09:03:49 PM
Love your layout, the progress mike, the journey you have made , action always and the story . Look forward to the next trip down hilllsden

Chris,

Thank you for your kind comments, I feel very humbled

Thank you and stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 05, 2020, 09:08:55 PM
Mike. Welcome. It's a journey where you can make friends with the same interests, ask for help  , share ideas , tips etc
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 06, 2020, 02:00:46 AM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
  Must agree with Chris, very interesting & entertaining, splendid modelling Mike
  stay safe regards Derek.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 06, 2020, 06:54:05 PM
@Hailstone (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1193)

I noticed you spent a long time today, looking through this thread.
I hope it brought some enjoyment to you as it has done for me writing it.

Thank you for spending this considerable amount of time both reading and watching the videoís, I hope you have been entertained enough to keep following the daily life in Hillsden.

Hope you visit again soon

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Hailstone on June 06, 2020, 09:08:50 PM
I have not been paying much attention to the layout construction board - my mistake! your layout is outstanding and I had to go back to the start of your thread to see it all. I must admit that I am surprised that you have only recently joined our happy band, for on this forum are the answers to most people's modelling problems, hints and tips plus there are some outstanding locomotive and rolling stock builders, I have learned an awful lot here having joined in 2012 and have made many friends here

all the best,

Alex
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 06, 2020, 09:16:58 PM
Hillsden Day 41

It rained all night in Hillsden and continued with showers during the day and the wind became stronger, blowing those infamous trees all over the town.

Well what a surprise today a Hillsden District Council road repair gang has been out and about the town filling in potholes and other repairs, with some gooey stuff that dries to a matt finish. They also worked on repairs to the various stone sett ten foots and access roads to the backs of the shops and cinema.  ;)

After a few weeks of backwards the forwards with the roads, the council seem to be getting to grips with the situation and the finish is somewhat like I wanted to achieve, so for once happy.  :laugh:

To my surprise the landscape contractors turned up unexpectedly, obviously they were looking to make up for yesterdayís lost time, when they had that puncture. They seeded quite a large area and it is already starting to look green, probably majority of green areas will be completed over the next week subject to good drying conditions for the diluted PVA. However, there is one area that will remain bereft of greenery for a little while, that is the area of the redundant canal which flows under the viaduct and between the mill and sweet factory as we are awaiting the stone masons to finish the coping stones to the canal and lock. Have you tried getting good stone masons today?  :doh:

We will soon be getting street lighting to the roads around Hillsden, today the street lighting department of Hillsden District Council have been preparing for the installation, they have been busy giving a grey primer coat of Humbrol enamel to thirty five road lighting columns and nine gas lamps. Apparently, there should have been ten gas lights but one had a little accident. It will be probably one or two weeks before the council start digging up the roads again, this time to install these and I thought the roads were all sorted.   ???

The lighting columns due to their fragility will not be installed until Nbodger has stopped standing on a chair to work on the back of the layout, I have lost count of the number of times trees have ended up on the floor, good job they are not fixed yet.  8)

Thinking about it I also need to repair the roof of Thornberís workshop before fixing the columns too.  :doh:

For todayís photographs I bring you the Ex LMS Fowler 4F on a small ballast train, this loco is an original Graham Farish Poole produced loco. It is a very good runner at all speeds and can achieve a reasonable crawl.

The photographs today have a typical photographer fail, the second Dogfish is unfortunately derailed, I didnít notice until I came to upload the photograph, so apologies.   :confused1:

The train consists of three Dapol Dogfish Ballast Wagon and a Society kit Shark ballast plough, I hope to purchase further Dogfish and weather including a ballast load.

Enjoy

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-060620204437.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/8543-060620204706.jpeg)

Thatís it for today, hope you have enjoyed todayís exploits in Hillsden.

Stay safe

Mike H  8) 8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 06, 2020, 09:24:06 PM
There are quite a few products on the street lighting front available. Be interesting when installed mike. Look forward to hearing more about the canal scene
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on June 06, 2020, 09:40:28 PM
I like the 4f I have two, one of mine is a original poole loco LMS 4232. It is not has detailed has the later one but like yours it is good runner. I am running on dcc so mine has been converted by Digitrains, it has a  DZ125 decoder. Unfortunately also a black wire from the loco to the tender but I am keeping it for sentimental reasons, it was used on the layout I built for my two sons in the late 80's possibly 90's.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on June 07, 2020, 07:32:02 AM
Your 4F looks right at home in that industrial setting Mike.
Itís certainly a nice model.

One thing that struck me was the fencing. You havenít made the mistake of having it dead straight. That slight, new word here, wiggiliness is very pleasing to the eye.

Oh and you should have kept quiet about the second wagon. I hadnít noticed .

Regards
Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 07, 2020, 07:38:03 AM
I never really noticed the wagon either, and that loco has small flanges!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on June 07, 2020, 09:23:15 AM
I like that '4F' very much, Mike.  I have got to know No. 43924 quite well over the years and your model captures the appearance of a '4F' very nicely indeed.  It's the big flat sides to the Belpaire firebox that are, to me, the distinctive feature of these engines.  Your excellent photographs of No. 44370 certainly shows this feature.  Your No. 44370 is a left-hand drive engine; No. 43924 is right-hand drive (and an original Midland Railway one as well). 

Many thanks and best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 07, 2020, 10:06:44 AM
Your 4F looks right at home in that industrial setting Mike.
Itís certainly a nice model.

One thing that struck me was the fencing. You havenít made the mistake of having it dead straight. That slight, new word here, wiggiliness is very pleasing to the eye.

Oh and you should have kept quiet about the second wagon. I hadnít noticed .

Regards
Martin

Hi Martin,

I didnít know it was possible to lay PECO fencing dead straight, believe me I tried, but the ground undulates so it just follows the contours, in other words where somebody drilled the holes

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on June 07, 2020, 10:46:11 AM
It will be probably one or two weeks before the council start digging up the roads again, this time to install these and I thought the roads were all sorted.   ???

I hope to purchase further Dogfish and weather including a ballast load.


Isn't it always the case utility companies can't/won't get their acts together so roads are dug up then filled and not long afterwards dug up again?

I sourced the loads for my Dogfish at a Wigan show from Ten Commandments, Mike

https://tencommandmentsmodels.co.uk/product-category/n/coal-mineral-loads/
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: chrism on June 07, 2020, 11:15:52 AM
Isn't it always the case utility companies can't/won't get their acts together so roads are dug up then filled and not long afterwards dug up again?

Heineken had a better idea, years ago;


Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 07, 2020, 12:57:55 PM

Isn't it always the case utility companies can't/won't get their acts together so roads are dug up then filled and not long afterwards dug up again?

Sometimes it depends upon the reinstatement regime, there are two ways 1) Permanent reinstatement, which today usually includes foam concrete backfill, plus surfacing 2) Temp reinstate and come back after some settlement has occurred and reinstate the surface.

Coming from a major main contractor background what annoys me is the standard of traffic management and pedestrian management.

There was a incidence a few years ago when some repair works were being undertaken at the traffic lighted crossroads in our village, the traffic lights had been replaced with temporary lights, a blind man and his support dog were stood at the permanent lights waiting to cross, completely oblivious to the fact that the lights were not in use. The workmen stood in the middle of the road pointing and laughing at this man. I got out of my car and helped cross the road.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on June 07, 2020, 01:08:33 PM
Isn't it always the case utility companies can't/won't get their acts together so roads are dug up then filled and not long afterwards dug up again?
Hi Mick,
Although it does sometimes seem that way, highways rules are quite specific, so for example if a section of road is fully reinstated / resurfaced, the highways then place a section 55 notice on that part of the road. It means that programmed works cannot take place on that bit for 5 years. The exception of course is for emergency works, I.e a power failure, gas leak, water main burst etc.
In my last job the amount of grief we had and costs incurred because we couldnít dig up specific bits of roads to allow superfast broadband to be provided is nobodyís business - this is because all of our works were planned works, if one of our cables had been damaged then we couldíve just dug away.

Cheers Derek

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 07, 2020, 08:45:18 PM
I like that '4F' very much, Mike.  I have got to know No. 43924 quite well over the years and your model captures the appearance of a '4F' very nicely indeed.  It's the big flat sides to the Belpaire firebox that are, to me, the distinctive feature of these engines.  Your excellent photographs of No. 44370 certainly shows this feature.  Your No. 44370 is a left-hand drive engine; No. 43924 is right-hand drive (and an original Midland Railway one as well). 

Many thanks and best wishes.

John

John,

Thank you very much for taking the time to provide the additional information

Stay safe

Mike H
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 07, 2020, 09:24:19 PM
Hillsden Day 42

Well more rain overnight and a few showers during the day, if that sun gets out, that grass will need cutting two to three times a week, that takes too much time away from my obligations to Hillsden, not that itís an obsession, although I know someone who thinks it is.  ;)

Today I didnít get to walk to Hillsden until after lunch in fact it wasnít until Mrs Nbodger took the dogs out for their run, I must admit I do miss not taking the dogs out for an hour plus each day. Hopefully will get to do that in the near future, when I can stop hiding (shielding) from Covid 19 like many people.  :(

Getting back to Hillsden, I noted that there were some green shoots sprouting up in the seeding areas, so I spread some more seed and duly watered in with diluted PVA these areas are coming on well, still need some additional build up and foliage. Next some clumps of heading and bushes will be required, must have a word with those landscape contractors to get a move on and finish.  ::)

I also need to get the fencing contractor back to install the station fencing on the western side of the station, between the retaining wall and the goods yard access. I already have the panels; they just need fixing in place.  ::)

I believe I mentioned in one of my earlier posts that the roof to Thornbers workshop on Burnley road, adjacent to Burnley Road Bridge requires some substantial repairs, I have decided this requires being done urgently, certainly before the council erect the street lighting columns. So tomorrow, Monday, contractors will be making a start on site. Health and safety will probably go to pot, bet they donít use access scaffold. Could be built into a good cameo, but it wonít as it will show do much of my bodging.  >:(

After a couple of hours, I left Hillsden, but will check everythingís ok later. I departed back to my workbench upstairs in the house. On the way I was greeted by a chewed plastic box lid, an envelope that had come from PD Marsh and some other bits, to my horror one of the dogs had climbed up and raided my work bench, at this point I panicked what about my models etc. Anyway, to my relief, she had only taken rubbish (no I donít mean my models).  :worried:

Whilst at the workbench I continued painting the lighting columns applying their final coat which is  Hillsden District Council corporate colours for lighting column of olive green for the steel columns and olive green and cream for the gas lit columns. Anyway, managed to paint around half of them, so another session may finish the job. Getting nearer being installed on the streets of Hillsden.

In Friday evenings post I set the challenge of what has Hillsden have in common with the Western Region of BR. Sorry but I forgot to tell you the answers in yesterdayís post. The answer is chocolate, cream and desert sand, where you may ask. The stonework on my early stone structures was a mix of chocolate and cream with a little black and later structures including station buildings and the mill were painted desert sand (my homage to the Westerns) and weathered with black dry brushed on the surface of the stone.  :doh:

A bit of bad news, my Class 108 DMU, would appear to have a split gear, after removing the power bogie from the body, the gears jam solid when moving them by hand, totally locking them, until you move in reverse. Will have to get it repaired after lockdown, well at least I know what the problem is and that it isnít too serious.  :'(

This evenings offering to keep you all interested is of an original Farish Poole A3, this was the first locomotive bought for Hillsden, the only loco I had left from previous layouts was the Minitrix Ivatt, all other earlier offerings were sold, generally ex Lima including those under scale Mk 1ís and the over scale Deltic. The A3 was bought for me by Mrs Nbodger, as over the years a lot of my locoís have. Mind you ask her what each loco is she normally replies a Black 5, whereas my daughter says they all look the same.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-070620162617.jpeg)

Stay safe

Mike H  8)






Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 07, 2020, 10:11:17 PM
6 weeks on here mike. Pleased to see the layout and progress and thanks for helping me with a different perspective for laurence. Look forward to day 43 's instalment
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 08, 2020, 09:47:31 PM
Hillsden Day 43

It is starting to become a bit of a habit, I havenít  been able to venture out to Hillsden until the afternoons, with household chores taking precedence, well I do have to keep in Mrs Nbodgers good books and keep earning those brownie points, they will come in handy one day, or so I am told.  :(

After lunch I took the first tentative steps towards Hillsden, first job was to put the heater on, not that it was really that cold, but I needed to give the diluted PVA applied yesterday a helping hand to dry so those landscape contractors can get back on site.

The object of todayís works as stated in yesterdayís post was to repair the roof to Thornbers workshop, the roofing contractors were on site from early afternoon with foreman Joe McClad running the show. The problem was due to Nbodgers poor quality workmanship some years ago, which to be honest it still hasnít improved over the years. The building however, was constructed some twenty plus years ago, so hasnít had a bad lifespan.

First the contractors removed a portion of the damaged roof very carefully, utilizing a small mobile crane to help, well at least the wind had died down and the crane was allowed to operate. Some areas had to be cut away very carefully where they didnít easily remove followed by a general clean up and survey of the adjacent panels.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-080620161949.jpeg)

What amazed me was how much dust and debris was found inside the structure, I think I must have added the roof some months after completing the walls for that level of dust to have built up, the contractors didnít attempt to clean it up either, so it remains.

The reason the roof failed was because the support area did not have a large enough surface area to adhere to and at the position of fail it was nonexistent, you see a real bodge. During the removal the contractors had also inadvertently broke the bond on part of the adjacent panel.

They have now added additional support width to all the edges in the failed area and added a new 20tho roof section, this is being left overnight before the contractors return in the morning to complete the asbestos cement sheet cladding, then finally painting, application of talcum powder and weathering. Hopefully will all blend in and provide a lasting bodge as expected by Nbodger.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-080620162048.jpeg)

This evening I have started building the goods yard crane, however a few decisions need to be made, it is a Knightwing white metal kit with loading bay base.

The questions that arise are a) should I scratch build a new base in plastikard to fit in with other structures in Hillsden, b) overlay the white metal casting with stone embossed plastikard or c) leave as is.

Similarly, the jib is a solid piece of white metal, which I am not keen on, I would prefer to see the lattice work on the jib and be able to see through it, this would mean scratch building the jib possibly in plastikard and microstrip. There is no way I would contemplate attempting an etched brass jib.

Perhaps life is too short and I should build the kit as is and be happy with it. Anyway, food for thought.  :doh:

It has been a bit of a short day today Hillsden wise as I had a video conference with members of the North Lincs Area Group of the N Gauge Society which took up part of the afternoon, it is important that we all keep in contact during these restrictive times. So hopefully a more productive day tomorrow.

I didnít get time to take any new photographs of layout today, other than the roofing works, so has not to disappoint here is one from the session I did yesterday, enjoy

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-080620161820.jpeg)

Interestingly the colour light signal in the background is soon to be replaced with a semaphore signal, modernisation program in reverse, well thatís progress.  ::)

Hope you have enjoyed todays episode and thank you for your time

Stay safe


Mike H  8) 8)




Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 08, 2020, 09:55:27 PM
Lovely shot of flying scotsman framed by the road bridge. Be nice to see her with mk1s or gresleys
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 09, 2020, 08:37:26 AM
Lovely shot of flying scotsman framed by the road bridge. Be nice to see her with mk1s or gresleys

Chris,
It can be arranged but it would have to be a mix of mk1ís and gresleys as at present I only have three and a half gresley coaches. The half is the full brake which is at present in the paint shop, where it has been since late January, I must really get it finished.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 09, 2020, 08:39:14 AM
Look forward to this mike. And certainly looking forward to the next hillsden instalment
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 09, 2020, 08:46:47 AM
I'm quite happy with the mustard and banana vans  ;)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 09, 2020, 08:52:02 AM
I'm quite happy with the mustard and banana vans  ;)

George,
You have made my day, I set it up especially for you.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 09, 2020, 09:29:55 AM
 :laughabovepost:

Thanks, Mike! I suspected you did, but I am now humbly embarrassed but at the same time honoured.  :thumbsup:

On a day when Victoria Bitter is back on tap, too!  :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 09, 2020, 08:47:07 PM
Hillsden Day 44

Early start this morning for a change, well at least early for me. Fortunately, I was allowed to be off from domestic duties, not sure why, must be something afoot.  :worried:

So, after breakfast and by half past nine, I was out cutting the grass, the second time in four or five days, all looks good after the rain we have had. The green of the grass reflecting life in Hillsden but without the PVA.

Half an hour later I was on my daily walk to Hillsden, hopefully it wonít be too long before Hillsden can have visitors.

Well the roofing contractor was on site first thing, they had the Asbestos Cement cladding to fix in place, which went well, there was a bit of damage to the apex capping, a bit of bodging with filler and all is well. As I write this the filler is hardening before sanding to shape, so will be ready to work on in the morning.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-090620201722.jpeg)

All that is hopefully left to do on the roof tomorrow is to paint it an appropriate shade of grey, two coats will be required, at least I can remember what the original colour I used. When the paint has dried and hardened then it will need weathering, that will be the difficult part trying to match the existing finish but fingers crossed.

I must admit that I was a bit worried about damaging the building during the repairs, but I am happy to report it has all gone well, much to my relief.  ::)

Also, it is good to report that the ground is drying out quickly and the landscapers will soon be able to get back on those areas to finish the planting and of course the trees. They have been able to grass seed a small garden and a couple of other areas, hopefully these areas will dry out quickly and germination will take place and soon have a bit of greenery. Soon planting will be taking place to these areas.

The men in orange jackets have also been working trackside in the red zone, they are all PTS trained and a flag man on duty all day.

The two aspect colour light signal has been removed as we prepare to go back in time to semaphore signals. Some areas adjacent the tracks were filled in with an ash and gravel mix, these areas up to this point were bare plywood board.

Small areas are developing quickly, so quite pleasing to see the development, I have been trying to reflect on what has been achieved in the forty four days since the layout first appeared on the forum, and to be honest I am not sure, will need to do retake the first photoí that appeared in the thread.

Chris of Crewearpley40 has requested Flying Scotsman hauling Mk1 and Gresleyís, unfortunately not today, it will appear in the near future, just for you. I was limited today where I could take photoís due to debris around the track. So, I have reverted to a new photo of one of the Sulzer type 2ís on a goods train, entering Scout Road Cutting.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-090620202035.jpeg)

So thatís it for this evening, hope you enjoyed your visit

Stay safe


Mike H  8)


Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 09, 2020, 08:56:22 PM
Thanks mike. I'm enjoying the type 2 on the vans / parcels service
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 10, 2020, 09:01:16 PM
Hillsden Day 45

Woke up to rain this morning albeit a little later than normal, well ok, yes I did sleep in which is unusual for me.

I slipped up at lunchtime by having an early lunch or was I outwitted by Mrs Nbodger, I was just about to depart for Hillsden when Mrs N decided as it had stopped raining, she would take the opportunity to do some gardening and I ended up dog sitting. You may ask why I had to dog sit and not let the dog out in the garden. Well the answer is quite simple, she decides to help with the gardening and nothing gets done, in fact at the moment she is banned due to trampling on the plants. We do have two dogs a cocker spaniel and a lab, the lab would rather lay out and sleep / sunbath, so is no problem but the cocker Ö    :doh:

Anyway, managed to slip upstairs to my workbench and continued to paint the street lighting columns ready for erecting in Hillsden, however, stopped when Mrs N returned from the garden and guess what relocated to Hillsden. Anyway, still another ten columns to paint, I do like dragging things out, you may have noticed that already.  ???

Well I soon made the long walk into Hillsden, with a handful of toys from my workbench, no doubt I will have forgotten something and end up going back, I usually do.  :hmmm:

Anyway, when I arrived, I was fighting through the doorway with the roofing contractor who had come to give the roof cladding repair a coat of grey paint, luckily, I had the tinlet of paint with me. The base colour certainly looked like the original, needs another coat tomorrow then leave to fully harden before weathering, now where have I heard that before.  :hmmm:

Even if I say so myself the repaired roof looks well and certainly matches the original, so letís hope the weathering works. We will so know, probably over the weekend.  ::)

The men in orange army were back trackside again, placing ash and gravel around the station area, making it all tidy, they also removed the existing surface from the location where the signal box is being moved to, this will allow the signal box to be fixed in its final position with a gravel and ash surround an the obligatory signalmanís bicycle laid against the box.

Finally, the landscapers started planting the trees, a total of three trees were planted inside their final position, letís hope Nbodgers big clumsy hands will not knock them over like a hurricane wind, he probably will as he becomes clumsier with age.

At present there is that much debris trackside it is impossible to run trains, when finished I will give it all a big clean up and enjoy playing trains, maybe another video before I pack the trains away for a week or so whilst I make changes to the fiddle yard and control panel, then hopefully I will be able to use the new slave panel at the front of the layout.

This evenings picture is from a batch of previously taken photos, the photo shows a Black 5 crossing the Viaduct with coal empties.  :(


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-100620204040.jpeg)


Again, thank you for visiting Hillsden and hope you have enjoyed your visit.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 10, 2020, 09:06:00 PM
I do like a black 5. So does newportnobby mick. Pretty clean looking loco mike
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on June 10, 2020, 09:12:04 PM
Nice pic Mike, nice to hear about your adventures in Hillsden, like the BLack Five too. I have one of the later Black fives,a tender drive version, but it is dead at the moment. I really need to get it fixed it is one of my fav loco's, do not like the tender drive though.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 10, 2020, 09:13:40 PM
I do like a black 5. So does newportnobby mick. Pretty clean looking loco mike

Chris at the moment it is, as yet I have not started weathering locoí s. I will start once the layout is near complete. If I started weathering now, I would have no trains to run as anything in the paint shop stays for about three to four months at the moment.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 11, 2020, 08:41:13 PM
Hillsden Day 46

When Mrs Nbodger took the dogs out this morning, I said I would tidy the kitchen and hoover the carpets upstairs, so soon as she was out of sight down the road, what did I do, well, I debunked to my workbench and finished painting the gas light columns for the side roads, then did the household chores.  ;D

As Mrs N returned from her walk I had just finished the chores and made a nice cup of coffee, by that was good timing on my part, phew.  ::)

However, the next stage didnít go to plan, I was outwitted again by Mrs N, two days running, I must be losing my touch, she got out into the garden before I could get to my little outside world of Hillsden. I didnít kick up a fuss, but thought how can I turn this to my advantage.  ???

First, I disappeared upstairs back to my workbench and carried on with painting those numerous lighting columns, wonít be long now before they have electric street lights in Hillsden, but the gas lights will be erected first, well you do have to be historically correct.

When Mrs N came in for lunch, I went off to Hillsden, she said she would be going back in the garden after lunch, I thought letís be canny here, so I told her I would come back in when she wanted to carry on gardening, more brownie points for me hopefully, I nearly have those new Thompson coaches in my grasp, if only.  ;D

So off I went into my own little world of Hillsden, well who was there today working.  :hmmm:

First there was the roofing contractor, giving that replacement cladding a final coat of grey and a light dusting of talcum powder, it looks more like the original roof at each stage, just needs weathering in a couple of days, I will post a photo when finished on the proviso that it still looks ok.

The landscapers were also busy, checking the trees that they had planted yesterday, plus a little, more seed and cultivating to those areas. They also managed to plant another three trees, all of course in line with Mrs Nís not to be changed under any circumstances plan, as if I would.

The two photographs below show the area around Burnley Road / Midgley Road area as it was when first photographed for the forum

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-030520192817.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/8543-140520171303.jpeg)

Now compare them with todayís photographs, hope you can appreciate the differences, if not I have failed.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-110620201549.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-110620201655.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-110620201750.jpeg)

The orange army were also busy at work trackside, clearing the site for the permanent erection of Hillsdenís signal box. By 2:30pm the signal box was fixed in its final position, minus its roof which still requires painting and weathering before installing permanently on the box.

Also, the Post Office turned up to install a brand new pillar box on the corner of Burnley Road and Midgley Road, Hillsden is really becoming a communication centre, wait until we get telephones.

I did seem to waste an extraordinary amount of time today, I spent ages looking for things, especially things that I had been using, put down, then two minutes later, couldnít for the life of me find them, I must be losing my marbles, or those little grey cells.  :confused1:

Today I also reflected on what I had achieved on the layout since joining the forum forty six days ago, well I thought a tremendous amount had been done until I started going through my own thread and realised that there wasnít that much, but what had been done had made a large visual impact. There was a lot of items that I thought I had done through this period, but, were actually in place in the very first photographs on the Forum of Hillsden , again loosing those little grey cells.  :confused1: :confused1:

Well Mrs N and myself had a pleasant surprise today, our eldest son and his wife ordered afternoon tea for us delivered to the door, a very nice thought. However, both of us are not tea drinkers (normally coffee), so we said sod the tea and coffee in fact opened a bottle of champagne with it, made it very nice, so apologies for any errors in this post as I am under the influence.  :)

Sorry no train photographs, which I know you all like, so sorry to disappoint, I will look to compose some for the next couple of days.  :-[

Hope you have enjoyed todays visit to the world of Hillsden

Take care and stay safe

Mike H  8) 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 11, 2020, 08:54:04 PM
I spent ages looking for things, especially things that I had been using, put down, then two minutes later, couldnít for the life of me find them

Been there, done that, couldn't find it after.  What really cheeses me off, though, is when I have two of something and can't find either of them :censored:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on June 11, 2020, 09:25:28 PM
Nice to hear of your progress on Hillsden, I am the same when it comes to putting things down and can not find them. Or putting them in a safe place to never find them again and end up buying a new one's like my wire strippers.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Hailstone on June 11, 2020, 10:43:07 PM
Hillsden Day 46

I did seem to waste an extraordinary amount of time today, I spent ages looking for things, especially things that I had been using, put down, then two minutes later, couldn’t for the life of me find them, I must be losing my marbles, or those little grey cells.  :confused1:



I seem to have made a habit of it as well! I think that maybe we should form a little club - the forgetful ones or altzheimers unanimous?   :D

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 12, 2020, 08:43:10 PM
Hillsden Day 47

What a miserable day here in East Yorkshire, I seem to have spent the day watching grass grow, luckily, I cut the grass on Tuesday but it looks as though it has grown about an inch since then. Feel very tired today and hence have not done a great deal, it must be the after effect of yesterdayís bottle of bubbles. Did I mention I am advised not to drink alcohol but one has to indulge occasionally.  :(

On a positive note I finally finished painting all those lighting columns, however, some require a little touching up where I have missed bits, I blame the bright light against wet glossy paint, either that or it is my eyesight.

Didnít venture out to Hillsden until early afternoon, it may be only a few steps in the rain, I still got wet.

Once in Hillsden it was pleasing to see at least some work was going on, but was limited, and yes, I couldnít summon the energy to do much.

As you already know the roofing contractor is not back until the weekend to finish the repair works to Thornberís workshop, so nothing to report.

Well at least the orange army was at work, but for what the achieved, you would think they were working to rule, which is not fair on the operating company because at present there is a blockade on all lines. Thatís railway speak for I am unable to run trains until their work is finished and the area cleaned. Plus, that large track rubber needs to be propelled along all lines demolishing all things in sight, note to self ďneed to be more carefulĒ  :(

The orange army continued to tidy the trackside up with ash and gravel, starting to look quite tidy, no bare wood anymore. However, the next phase will be making the area look a bit untidy with a few weeds and railway debris. They also managed to reinstate the ballast around the signal box, which was disturbed by clearing the area. It was Friday so they all went home early, well it is POETS day.  :D

Well I was very surprised today when the fencing contractors turned up, how long have we been waiting for them to finish that stretch of fencing between the goods yard access road and the station retaining wall, must be two or three weeks. Anyway, the finally finished at 7:10pm, and itís Friday, you can tell that the public houses are still in lockdown else they would have bee; long gone. To be honest it is a fairly good job of the fence and this virtually secures the rail boundary, just a small bit to erect on the platform at platform one next to the parcelís office, but that will have to wait until the station building is finally fixed in place.

There is also the lengths of three rail fence to enclose the footpath from Midgley Road to the station, but we need to order further supplies when the merchants have restocked.  ???

The landscapers were also there again today, they have put in a lot of hard work recently and the council has forgiven them for turning up late last Friday after their puncture. Today they managed to erect six trees along Station Road and the frontage to the station, dare I say it two of the trees are not to Mrs Nís tree planting plan, I had better keep her away from Hillsden for a few weeks, she hopefully forget what her plan was and I can delete the photographs of the proposed locations. Please, please donít tell her or I will be for the high jump. Still a lot more planting to do, the biggest area around the canal is yet to start.  ::)

I have again included photos of Station Road area as was compared to today, hope you approve.  ::)

The original view on the Forum

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-090520133843.jpeg)

Todays views, spot the difference, no prizes though

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-120620195849.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-120620195956.jpeg)

I keep rummaging in the cupboards in the railway room, today I found a half-completed Foxhunter kit of the A1 which is twenty-four years old, complete with its Farish A3 chassis which was purchased second hand. I can be accurate on the age because I purchased it with money given to me for my 40th birthday. Had a quick look at it, it looks in reasonable condition, I must get it finished, however layout first. Yet another project for my workbench, I know it wonít be to the same standard as some modelers on the Forum, but I will give it a go.  :doh:

During the rummage I also found a very early photograph, yes on photographic paper, pre digital, unfortunately the date has faded so I canít confirm exactly when the layout started all those years ago. Well I have scanned the photo and thought my non joinery skills you may appreciate. The points shown in the picture are insulfrog medium radius, rescued from previous layouts, these have since been replaced by long radius live frog points, some of the better ones are possibly utilized in the fiddle yard.  :unimpressed:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-120620203258.jpeg)

Well that it for todayís visit to the non-scenic town of Hillsden, thank you for joining me on this developing journey, hope you enjoyed today encounters.

Stay safe and well

Mike H.  8) 8)




Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 12, 2020, 08:47:36 PM
Looks fine to me. I recognise the shunter mike. Ah the humble 08. We must share the same tastes. In reality the cab space is tight and 1 or 2 person max. I've seen a preserved railway with 4 in a cab. But impressive woodwork too
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on June 12, 2020, 08:58:16 PM
The trees and the bus shelters doesn't it make a difference, very nice. The woodwork does not look that bad, I have seen worse.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Hailstone on June 12, 2020, 10:06:11 PM
your scenery looks great! I am afraid that on my big layout it is rather crude by comparison (Trewoon) but I tend to spend more time building and modifying locomotives and rolling stock, then I just have to run some trains - that's how most of yesterdays time was spent!

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 12, 2020, 10:29:56 PM
your scenery looks great! I am afraid that on my big layout it is rather crude by comparison (Trewoon) but I tend to spend more time building and modifying locomotives and rolling stock, then I just have to run some trains - that's how most of yesterdays time was spent!

Regards,

Alex

Hi Alex @Hailstone (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1193)

Thank you for kind comment regarding the scenery, I must admit I have spent part of the last three evenings slowly reading through your workbench thread, some impressive kit building, which leaves me in awe

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 12, 2020, 10:35:10 PM
Looks fine to me. I recognise the shunter mike. Ah the humble 08. We must share the same tastes. In reality the cab space is tight and 1 or 2 person max. I've seen a preserved railway with 4 in a cab. But impressive woodwork too

Hi Chris @crewearpley40 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3894)

The humble 08 is the original Farish model without the outside frames, a poor representation of the chassis, I still have the model, however, I donít run it, but it does still run

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 12, 2020, 10:40:43 PM
The trees and the bus shelters doesn't it make a difference, very nice. The woodwork does not look that bad, I have seen worse.

Thanks Chris @lil chris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784)

Yes the landscaping is starting to take shape and brings a different perspective to the layout, not many areas to do now, and only around eleven trees to add, although I need to add shrubs and brambles etc.

This is the fun time, bringing everything together

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Hailstone on June 12, 2020, 10:53:27 PM
your scenery looks great! I am afraid that on my big layout it is rather crude by comparison (Trewoon) but I tend to spend more time building and modifying locomotives and rolling stock, then I just have to run some trains - that's how most of yesterdays time was spent!

Regards,

Alex



Hi Alex @Hailstone (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1193)

Thank you for kind comment regarding the scenery, I must admit I have spent part of the last three evenings slowly reading through your workbench thread, some impressive kit building, which leaves me in awe

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

Thanks for the compliment Mike, although when I look at the workbench threads of @Dr Al (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=263) , @Stevie DC (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=213) and @Snowwolflair (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3761)  I feel like I am still a beginner, they are fearless in the way that they take even new locos apart in order to make something unique.

Regards,

Alex   
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Jonner on June 13, 2020, 07:31:42 AM
  Hi Mike. Been following this one for a while now and just got to say I'm loving the whole project, you really have captured
  the look and feel of the area very well indeed.

  Also finding your overall constructional skills, enthusiasm and dedication in these last six weeks or so truealy inspirational.

  Well Done.

  Regards. John

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on June 13, 2020, 07:58:18 AM
It was interesting to see the very early shot of the birth of your layout.  It reminds me of the ones I posted when I started mine, although that was only four years ago.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on June 13, 2020, 08:01:36 AM
Good Morning Mike.

Your layout is looking really impressive.
I particularly like yesterdayís middle photograph which shows off the slopes well with the road sloping nicely up towards the station and the row of town houses rising up behind the locomotive.
The bus shelters break up the station approach road particularly nicely as well.
Will you be adding street lights?

Looking great.
Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: chrism on June 13, 2020, 08:48:10 AM
It's coming on nicely, Mike.

I always find that there are three points at which a layout changes and improves significantly - when the basic scenery shape is built, when that gets its colouring whether that be an initial coat of paint or the final surface coatings and, most significantly of all, when "things" go on to build up from the ground in selected places and give it all depth.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 13, 2020, 09:17:25 AM
  Hi Mike. Been following this one for a while now and just got to say I'm loving the whole project, you really have captured
  the look and feel of the area very well indeed.

  Also finding your overall constructional skills, enthusiasm and dedication in these last six weeks or so truealy inspirational.

  Well Done.

  Regards. John

Hi John @Jonner (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3014)

Thank you for your kind words, I am glad you are enjoying your visits to Hillsden.

I hope you continue to visit in the future and continue to enjoy.

Thanks again for your appreciation.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 13, 2020, 09:28:54 AM
Good Morning Mike.

Your layout is looking really impressive.
I particularly like yesterdayís middle photograph which shows off the slopes well with the road sloping nicely up towards the station and the row of town houses rising up behind the locomotive.
The bus shelters break up the station approach road particularly nicely as well.
Will you be adding street lights?

Looking great.
Martin

Hi Martin @port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230)

Thank you for your kind comments. I often sit on a chair at the bottom of station road and take in the view that is in that photograph whilst watching the trains go by, it gives me a sense of actually being there in a town centre. I am most appreciative that others enjoy what I have tried to create.

Yes there will be street lights albeit non working, a total of 35 are ready and waiting to be installed on the layout, 10 of these are gas lamps around the terrace houses and the remainder are for the main roads, including station road. They have not been installed yet as I have been working at the back of the layout by leaning over and didnít wish to damage them.

Similarly I have platform lights all ready to install

Thanks again Martin

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 13, 2020, 09:36:30 AM
It's coming on nicely, Mike.

I always find that there are three points at which a layout changes and improves significantly - when the basic scenery shape is built, when that gets its colouring whether that be an initial coat of paint or the final surface coatings and, most significantly of all, when "things" go on to build up from the ground in selected places and give it all depth.

Thanks Chris @chrism (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7182)

The layout has been a long long time in the build for various reasons, but I am glad I have stuck with it, as I feel it is really coming together.

I agree with your statement that there are various milestones when you sit back and hopefully admire what you have achieved, for me that is now, where majority of the ground covering has been completed, no bare boards in site. There is one area around the redundant canal that is still white plaster, but that will hopefully change in the coming weeks.

Stay safe

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 13, 2020, 09:45:04 AM
It was interesting to see the very early shot of the birth of your layout.  It reminds me of the ones I posted when I started mine, although that was only four years ago.

Thanks Laurence @Innovationgame (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091)

Yes the wood is well seasoned now, I only wish I had been able to share the construction of the layout from day one with you all. I am sure it would have lead to it being constructed much quicker.

Hopefully you will soon be able to pop up the road and visit Hillsden in person and prove that photographs lie, look forward to to that day

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 13, 2020, 10:38:12 AM
Impressive mike. I can only add to this from what has been said already, yes at work here. Going back to post 349 the sight of the 108 DMU and she working uphill / downhill with the gradient typical of the mill town and station road running parallel.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 13, 2020, 06:12:09 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
  Looking superb Mike, making excellent progress  :thumbsup:
  stay safe regards Derek.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 13, 2020, 06:42:31 PM
:hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
  Looking superb Mike, making excellent progress  :thumbsup:
  stay safe regards Derek.

Cheers Derek, thank you for your kind words, much appreciated.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 13, 2020, 08:55:41 PM
Hillsden Day 48

What a difference twenty-four hours makes, dry, sun is out and itís warm, became too warm for old Nbodger later on.  :-\

Quite a shock today at breakfast Mrs N came up with the idea of decorating, Well this filled me with horror, thoughts of ďwhat about Hillsden, I need to get it finishedĒ, I tried changing the subject but too avail, she seems to have her mindset on decorating the whole house, plus new carpets, next thought ďwhat about those new Thompson coaches whereís the money coming from nowĒ  ???

Eventually everything calmed down and it wasnít mentioned again, well I am not going to bring it up again, but it looks like I am resigned to doing some decorating.  :(

Decided before lunch I had better cut the grass it had grown more than a inch and a half since Tuesday, anyway, keeps the garden tidy and Mrs N happy, she spends hours in her garden, but my lawn.

Eventually, dawdled into Hillsden, but by then it was starting to get very hot, and there wasnít much going on today as it was Saturday. I had a amble around the town to see what had changed.

Well there was Thornbers yard, contractors has started pouring some more of the concrete paving, they achieved four more bays, well thatís a bit of progress as they havenít been around for a couple of weeks at least. Mind you they could only work along the fence line as the scaffold was still in place for the finishing of the roof repairs. They must have had five truck loads of concrete today, not bad for a mornings work.  :thumbsup:

The orange army had also done more work, not sure if this was overnight or not, but they have completed the reinstatement works around the signal box area, with gravel and ash. At least the signalman will have access to his box, even though at present it is minus its roof. They had also done a little bit of tidying up around the station, all starting to look tidy, wait until the weeds start growing.  :thumbsup:

Our work-shy landscape contractors put in half a shift, just tidying up some of the areas that had previously been working it.

As I write this I am about to embark on building the goods yard crane kit, this will really help shift the loads when completed, the men who work the yard are crying out for it.

Also spent part of the day delving into the life of a black 5 which is now resident on the NYMR at Pickering, named after the late Eric Treacy the Former Bishop of Wakefield, if you have been following Train Waitingís Poppingham thread, you will know we have been trying to find when the loco was named during the late 1960ís post BR service.

For todayís picture, as there is not really any noticeable progress on the layout, I am being a little naughty today and blatantly copying @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222)  Poppingham thread from this morning.

We have Princess Coronation Class 4-6-2 passing under Scout Road Bridge and exiting Scout Road cut before crossing the viaduct and into Hillsden Station, both in colour and black and white.

Apologies for blatant plagiarism to @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222)

Enjoy

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-130620204549.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-130620204714.jpeg)

Well it has just been a short visit today; hope you have enjoyed and look forward to seeing you visit Hillsden again in the near future.

Stay safe

Mike H  8) 8)



Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Hailstone on June 14, 2020, 12:39:44 AM
Hi Mike, I first saw 5428 Eric Treacy at the Cricklewood open day in July 1969 and it was named then - see this link

https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/45428-lms-5428-45428/

it would appear to have got its plates between 1968 - 69 as it must have been repainted about then

hope this helps

Alex
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on June 14, 2020, 07:58:48 AM
For todayís picture, as there is not really any noticeable progress on the layout, I am being a little naughty today and blatantly copying @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222)  Poppingham thread from this morning.

We have Princess Coronation Class 4-6-2 passing under Scout Road Bridge and exiting Scout Road cut before crossing the viaduct and into Hillsden Station, both in colour and black and white.

Apologies for blatant plagiarism to @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222)

Enjoy

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-130620204549.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-130620204714.jpeg)

Excellent, Mike - much better than my effort.  And most certainly no need for apologies; I consider it a kind compliment, thank you.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on June 14, 2020, 08:18:59 AM
Lovely photograph Mike.
I particularly like the way you have grassed the embankment to the right of the locomotive.
Regards
Martin

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 14, 2020, 09:24:06 AM
Lovely photograph Mike.
I particularly like the way you have grassed the embankment to the right of the locomotive.
Regards
Martin

Thank you Martin,

The grassed slopes are built up layers of scatter by Greenscene, I always start with a total covering of earth type colour, glued in place, then washed with diluted PVA via a dropper, then when fully dry additional layers built up and glued with diluted PVA again utilising the dropper.

Applying diluted PVA sets everything solid, so there are no loose pieces of scatter.

Itís all a bit like traditional methods of ballasting, tedious but creative

I may used four or five different colours of scatter for a location.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 14, 2020, 09:18:36 PM
Hillsden Day 49

Sunday again, where do the weeks go to, seven weeks here on the Forum and still standing, but fingers sore from all that typing, note to self, reduce size of posts before I get a repetitive stress injury.  ;D

Today I set out to finish the build of the goods yard crane, did anything but, may do a little later on time permitting.  :-\

Disappeared off to Hillsden late morning, thought I would get there before it got too hot for old Nbodger. Spent a little time deciding what to do, so had another amble round, as it was Sunday it was fairly quiet.

Interestingly the contractors were back at work around Thornbers, they were continuing with the concrete paving and completed a further eight bays. Not sure how much extra they had to pay for the ready mixed concrete plant and drivers to open on a Sunday, for a quantity of around 50m3. Seems poor economics to me, but suppose needs must. Anyway, the paving is coming on at a cracking pace.  :o

Struggling a little with the roof repairs, it as I thought becoming a little difficult to match up the weathering, my first attempt is a little red, next I will overcoat the panels and giving it, another go. I can see the only way to come to a satisfactory conclusion is to repaint and weather the whole roof of the structure, something I donít really want to do.  :hmmm:

I have a couple of oil tanks spare, so thinking of utilising one in the yard a Thornbers as an oil tank for the heating system, will see how it looks, it may be too large. Will need to construct a bunded wall around it to enclose any spills.  :-\

The landscapers have also been busy, three more trees planted today adjacent the access road to the good yard and also cultivated to the rear of the building at the small mill off Scout Road, adjacent to Sunny Bank, plenty of weeds and shrubbery to add later.

They also went over all the areas where they have been working and did a good tidy up, also the orange army cleaned up all the debris around the track.

You will be pleased to know that Mrs Nbodger gave her royal approval of the tree planting to-date, even the minor changes I had quietly made to her plan met with approval so allís good.  :thumbsup:

As the layout had been cleaned up, I could now indulge in running a few trains, however I did find a minor issue by mid afternoon the track had expanded sufficiently to allow power into an isolated section, this was at a baseboard joint, so will have to call on the orange army to bring a disc slitter and cut a very small piece of track off to make the gap slightly larger.  ???

I have also managed to take a few new photographs this afternoon, this time we have Farish V2, which again runs well, pulls an eight / nine coach train with no problems, very smooth running.

Today she is hauling a parcels train which consists of a varied collection of vans, of which three of them are Roger Chivers kits which were a dream to build, just wish I had bought more at the time.

Two very different views of the V2 crossing the viaduct after passing through the station, enjoy

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-140620194144.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-140620194311.jpeg)


As an additional treat I have also done a little video, it is only short as the camera battery died on me. Again, it is of the V2



Hope you have enjoyed todays trip to Hillsden and hope you will visit again


Stay safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 14, 2020, 09:21:30 PM
I'd like a return to hillsden please. Lovely photography. 7 weeks fly when your enjoying our hobby mike
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: belstone on June 14, 2020, 10:23:26 PM
Some more great photos and I'm very envious of that last van if it is what I think it is.  Ex LNER extra long CCT?  I want one of those.

Richard
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on June 14, 2020, 10:32:52 PM
Some more great photos and I'm very envious of that last van if it is what I think it is.  Ex LNER extra long CCT?  I want one of those.

Richard

I was suspecting one of these types but am not sure Mike would go for a ready to plonk item :hmmm:

https://www.osbornsmodels.com/dapol-2f-014-005-n-gauge-fruit-d-wagon-2876-gwr-shirtbutton-gwr-27561-p.asp (https://www.osbornsmodels.com/dapol-2f-014-005-n-gauge-fruit-d-wagon-2876-gwr-shirtbutton-gwr-27561-p.asp)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on June 14, 2020, 10:39:06 PM
Hillsden is looking even better has the seven weeks go on. Nice video too.
Keep Safe.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: belstone on June 14, 2020, 10:41:24 PM
Some more great photos and I'm very envious of that last van if it is what I think it is.  Ex LNER extra long CCT?  I want one of those.

Richard

I was suspecting one of these types but am not sure Mike would go for a ready to plonk item :hmmm:

https://www.osbornsmodels.com/dapol-2f-014-005-n-gauge-fruit-d-wagon-2876-gwr-shirtbutton-gwr-27561-p.asp (https://www.osbornsmodels.com/dapol-2f-014-005-n-gauge-fruit-d-wagon-2876-gwr-shirtbutton-gwr-27561-p.asp)

I think it's one of these, and a very, very big clue here as to why I want one.

https://railphotoprints.uk/p741678313/h163BDDD7#h163bddd7 (https://railphotoprints.uk/p741678313/h163BDDD7#h163bddd7)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: impinabox on June 14, 2020, 10:47:19 PM
Love the train snaking thru that curved platform.  Makes me want to scrap all my setrack points and start again.  😞
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 14, 2020, 10:56:53 PM
Some more great photos and I'm very envious of that last van if it is what I think it is.  Ex LNER extra long CCT?  I want one of those.

Richard

Richard @belstone (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2569)

See post #339, better picture for you to be envious of, still not fully painted

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 14, 2020, 11:22:16 PM
Love the train snaking thru that curved platform.  Makes me want to scrap all my setrack points and start again.  😞

Mike, @impinabox (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8399)

Gently curved trackwork makes a layout more interesting, it allows you the chance to break a otherwise straight length up into viewable sections. There are two areas on Hillsden, where you can not see a train continuing its journey, other than viewing from above.

But donít give up what you have done, I used to go to exhibitions, come home and start the layout again, it just wastes time.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 15, 2020, 09:25:36 AM
I think it's one of these, and a very, very big clue here as to why I want one.
https://railphotoprints.uk/p741678313/h163BDDD7#h163bddd7 (https://railphotoprints.uk/p741678313/h163BDDD7#h163bddd7)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/1490-150620092139.jpeg)

I've got a couple of those, but always felt there was something not quite right about them ;)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on June 15, 2020, 10:05:11 AM
Some more great photos and I'm very envious of that last van if it is what I think it is.  Ex LNER extra long CCT?  I want one of those.

Richard

I was suspecting one of these types but am not sure Mike would go for a ready to plonk item :hmmm:

https://www.osbornsmodels.com/dapol-2f-014-005-n-gauge-fruit-d-wagon-2876-gwr-shirtbutton-gwr-27561-p.asp (https://www.osbornsmodels.com/dapol-2f-014-005-n-gauge-fruit-d-wagon-2876-gwr-shirtbutton-gwr-27561-p.asp)

I think it's one of these, and a very, very big clue here as to why I want one.

https://railphotoprints.uk/p741678313/h163BDDD7#h163bddd7 (https://railphotoprints.uk/p741678313/h163BDDD7#h163bddd7)

I'd go for at least 2 of them!
Mike - gissa clue as to source please?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 15, 2020, 10:21:04 AM
Some more great photos and I'm very envious of that last van if it is what I think it is.  Ex LNER extra long CCT?  I want one of those.

Richard

I was suspecting one of these types but am not sure Mike would go for a ready to plonk item :hmmm:

https://www.osbornsmodels.com/dapol-2f-014-005-n-gauge-fruit-d-wagon-2876-gwr-shirtbutton-gwr-27561-p.asp (https://www.osbornsmodels.com/dapol-2f-014-005-n-gauge-fruit-d-wagon-2876-gwr-shirtbutton-gwr-27561-p.asp)

I think it's one of these, and a very, very big clue here as to why I want one.

https://railphotoprints.uk/p741678313/h163BDDD7#h163bddd7 (https://railphotoprints.uk/p741678313/h163BDDD7#h163bddd7)



I'd go for at least 2 of them!
Mike - gissa clue as to source please?

The clue was in the original post
It is a Roger Chivers Fineline kit, sadly no longer available, there is a thread on the Forum started a few years ago, with some posts May 2020, suggesting the society buys the moulds.

I bought mine, must be 20 plus years ago, along with two other kits, both in the picture. I had discarded it as a non runner as it kept derailing, however discovered early this year that the buffers lock with adjacent stock on the tight curves in the fiddle yard, so need to be careful where I run it in a train.

The Chivers kits, where a joy to build and the best kits I have had the pleasure to build. Sad loss to modellers.

One of the problems from what I remember was that that the mainstream manufactures started producing them ie the CCT and Blue Spot fish van. I really do wish I had bought more of them at the time when they were available from the society shop.

Sorry to have to disappoint but letís hope they get re-introduced

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 15, 2020, 10:35:47 AM
One of the problems from what I remember was that that the mainstream manufactures started producing them ie the CCT and Blue Spot fish van. I really do wish I had bought more of them at the time when they were available from the society shop.

A sad loss, in that they were gone before I became involved in N gauge.  Odd that the LNER CCT never appeared in the Dapol range to sit alongside the other parcels stock.  A RTR example would make a great NGS/Dapol joint effort :wave:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 15, 2020, 10:42:14 AM
One of the problems from what I remember was that that the mainstream manufactures started producing them ie the CCT and Blue Spot fish van. I really do wish I had bought more of them at the time when they were available from the society shop.

A sad loss, in that they were gone before I became involved in N gauge.  Odd that the LNER CCT never appeared in the Dapol range to sit alongside the other parcels stock.  A RTR example would make a great NGS/Dapol joint effort :wave:

Steve,
It is a surprise that Dapol didnít produce one, as they produced both the CCT and Blue Spot.

I would certainly buy two more for Hillsden

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on June 15, 2020, 11:03:46 AM
Thanks for the info, Mike. Shame about Chivers departing the scene :(
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 15, 2020, 01:16:16 PM
Hillsden is looking even better has the seven weeks go on. Nice video too.
Keep Safe.

Thanks @lil chris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784)
You never know I might get it completed yet, then what will I do
I know will enjoy running trains, fingers crossed

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 15, 2020, 09:37:24 PM
Hillsden Day 50

A day that started warm and overcast and developed into a sunny hot day, well at 7:45pm it is still too hot for old me.  :doh:

Not really done as much as I would have liked today, Mrs N has not been too well, so had to become chief cook and bottle washer, whereas normally just the bottle washer, add to that dog entertainer and then add the two hours plus of Zoom video calls with both ex colleagues and the fellow modellers of the North Lincolnshire Area Group of the society. So not enough hours in the day.
The dogs keeping looking at me to say when are we going for a walk, I keep telling them theyíre not, but they donít seem to understand what shielding means. Yes, still stuck at home, not been out for what twelve weeks, thank goodness for the model railway and of course you guys on here.  ::)

I finally got out to Hillsden, early afternoon, but I had to be back home for 3:30pm for the second video conference, so a max of two hours. Well what was going on today in Hillsden, it was remarkably busy.

Back at Thornbers a few more concrete bays have been poured, so nearing completion, will soon be complete and need filling and rubbing down before being painted concrete colour and finally weathering, so making reasonable progress.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-150620211117.jpeg)

Similarly, the roofing repairs after the weathering disaster were repainted and talcum powder added, nut Nbodger being the badger he is he clumsily shook the container too hard and a pile of talc was dumped not only on the roof but also Burnley Road. Well at least it smelt nice, you see whatever I do I end up smelling of roses. Vacuum cleaner at the ready soon made short work of the spill.  :-[

Will leave the roof now for a couple of days and then have a second attempt at weathering, well I think I have a better understanding of what colour mix to weather it with, well fingers crossed.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-150620211340.jpeg)

The landscapers have not done a bad job adding one or two finishing touches to the goods yard access road, which is now virtually complete in this area.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-150620211623.jpeg)

Big news today in Hillsden gas lighting has come to town, installation of the first four gas lights have been made to the two terrace streets off Burnley Road, still have another five to go somewhere, need to remember where. In reality I only need three more, which is seven in total, however, they were supplied in packs of five so have two spare plus one I broke.  :thumbsup:

I had a challenge with the installation, first finding the right size drill bit, second drilling the holes in a limited space with a fairly blunt bit and finally good lighting to see the holes, what else do you use an iPhone for.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-150620212032.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-150620212149.jpeg)

It was the intention to install two of the electric road lighting columns, but I havenít got a drill bit of the right size, really do need a new set of drills.

Anyway, the messing about with the lighting columns took around 90 plus minutes, with very little to show for it.

A bit more work was done to the landscape areas the time for conference call, followed by kitchen duties.

As most of you know if you have read my previous posts, it is my intention to add additional roads in the fiddle yard for the branch line, well checked if there was enough spare terminals for the wiring, for both points and isolations luckily there appears to be enough after a quick check, so that should make the wiring much easier.

When the layout was first wired it has a series of 25 pin connectors from the layout boards to the control panel, the connections were all wired irrespective of if they were required, hence giving some spare capacity. This means I only have to wire from track etc. to tag strip and similarly in control panel tag strip to switch.

This evening I am continuing to build the goods yard crane, to date mos.t of the time has been taken up cleaning the moulding flash off the parts and understanding the easiest way to build, think I have got there now, so just need to build.

Sorry no video or train pictures tonight  :( , thank you for visiting, hope you enjoyed the update.

Stay safe

Mike H  8) 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on June 15, 2020, 10:24:32 PM
Looking good there now Mike, I like the gas lamps I will have to get some of those. Sorry to hear you are having to stay in shielding, I am lucky I have been out and about all the way through, at first just the walk or cycling for exercise. I have been avoiding people like the plauge though, my wife had a stroke back in Sept 2018 so she has been staying in apart from going shopping with me for her father who is 83 and is shielding. I have been out today and did another 10 miles on my bike, about 8 yesterday. Anyway keep safe at this rate you will have finished that layout soon.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 15, 2020, 11:13:06 PM
Looking good there now Mike, I like the gas lamps I will have to get some of those.

Hi Chris @lil chris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784)

Thanks again Chris, the gas lights are white metal from P and D Marsh, unpainted. Then cleaned up and painted in Hillsden District Councils colour scheme. They are quite fragile, so need handling with care.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on June 15, 2020, 11:20:46 PM
Thanks Mike, I was hoping they were working lights, never mind, I might still get some. I bought a few led lights off e-bay last year and they were cheap and worked ok with resisitors in the feed. The only trouble is they tend to be more modern type lights, Its a pity somebody should do some early types.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on June 16, 2020, 07:42:44 AM
I do like the gas lamps, particularly the little arm for the clock winder to rest his ladder on.  He used to come round periodically, winding the clock and setting the time for sunset.  He also changed the mantle when it was worn out.  He carried his small ladder along the crossbar of his bike.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on June 16, 2020, 07:46:30 AM
Looking good Mike.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 16, 2020, 09:14:46 AM
Thanks Mike, I was hoping they were working lights, never mind, I might still get some. I bought a few led lights off e-bay last year and they were cheap and worked ok with resisitors in the feed. The only trouble is they tend to be more modern type lights, Its a pity somebody should do some early types.

Chris @lil chris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784)
Isnít it a little dangerous having working gas lights on a model railway  ;D
Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 16, 2020, 09:24:26 AM
I do like the gas lamps, particularly the little arm for the clock winder to rest his ladder on.  He used to come round periodically, winding the clock and setting the time for sunset.  He also changed the mantle when it was worn out.  He carried his small ladder along the crossbar of his bike.

Hi Laurence @Innovationgame (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091)
Thank you, the gas lamps were included basically because I remember them along the road where I was brought up, pre 1964, there wasnít many left as most had been replaced by electric. I always remember Mytholmroyd station an old L&Y building which was fully lit with gas and quite eerie , even the timber subway that led to the Hebden Bridge bound platform was gas lit. Sadly the building was condemned and a new platforms and a bus shelter built to replace it.

Stay safe
Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 16, 2020, 05:49:25 PM
STOP PRESS

Today was the 2020 Hillsden and District Brass Band Contest held in the Hillsden Memorial Hall on New Lane. Band travelled from afar to enter the competition and many Brass Band fans attended and supported the event.

The band that travelled the furthest was from that magical place Poppingham, the band and its supporters travelled by special train consisting of two teak carriages hauled by D11/2 4-4-0 No 6392 Wizard of the Moor looking splendid in its LNER apple green livery. The train pulled into Platform 4 at Hillsden Station, where the loco uncoupled from its carriages and went on its way to Hillsden shed where she took on coal and water, and was turned on the turntable ready for her return journey, running tender first back to the station to couple up to her teak carriages and await the return of the band from the competition, before making her journey back to Poppingham.

The Hillsden Evening Press reported that the competition was attended by ten brass bands from all parts of the country and that the Memorial Hall was full to capacity. The competition was won by the famous Black Dyke Mills Band from Queensbury, Bradford, which is just up the road from Hillsden.

The runners up were the local  Hillsden and District Omnibus Co Brass Band

And in a credible  third place was the Table Top Band, conducted by Inspector Japp from Poppingham.

Hope you enjoyed Hillsdens special edition as a tribute to @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222)  Poppingham Table Top Layout

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 16, 2020, 10:30:34 PM
Hillsden Day 51

This morning we had quite a heavy dew, but that lawn had grown so much since it was cut on Saturday, I just had to get out there and cut it once again. It just grows and grows, perhaps I should dig it all up and relay it with static grass, now thereís a challenge.

Late morning just before lunch I did a little bit more with the goods yard crane and again later in the afternoon, itís the ropes that have caused the problem, which order to erect things etc., anyway think I have nearly sorted it. The kit suggests using cotton for the ropes and forming tying with a knot, but this is far to fiddly for Nbodgers fat fingers, so I gave it some thought and have utilised 5amp fuse wire instead, much easier, I say that in advance of the trickiest bit yet to do.

When I finally visited Hillsden, I found that the contractors have finished pouring the concrete to Thornbers yard at long last, tomorrows job will be rubbing it all down and filling any gaps ready for painting.

Nothing more has happened in Hillsden today, seems as though most of the town were at the Memorial Hall enjoying the brass band concert.

Tonight, I deciding to indulge in running a few trains, something I havenít done for a little while, I also decided to video the session, however, didnít all go to plan, there was a few troublesome trucks and derailed stock in the fiddle yard. It was the intention to have trains running in both directions at the same time, other than one clip I failed miserably, not enough hands or brain power. And finally, I ran out of space on the camera card.

I tried filming from a new location, to show the trains from on high as they went around the curves of the layout. The video is around 8 mins long, hope you enjoy and donít get too bored.





Well thatís it for today, just a short visit this evening, hope you come back soon

Stay safe

Mike H  8) 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 16, 2020, 10:36:54 PM
Thanks mike. A real good overhead view of hillsden. Like it
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on June 17, 2020, 06:33:15 AM
This morning we had quite a heavy dew, but that lawn had grown so much since it was cut on Saturday, I just had to get out there and cut it once again. It just grows and grows, perhaps I should dig it all up and relay it with static grass, now thereís a challenge.
Have you tried watering it with beer?  It comes up half cut. :D

A very nice running session by the way.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: joe cassidy on June 17, 2020, 11:40:09 AM
Great video Mike, so relaxing - I could feel my blood pressure go down minute by minute.

For me the addition of the trees has created the atmosphere of a place like Hebden Bridge, where you have industry and country side by side.

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on June 17, 2020, 12:07:14 PM
Hugely enjoyable to watch, and at a pace I like :)
Just when I was thinking "By heck. Nothing stops here" along came the Brush Type 2 and did just that
I also enjoyed the muzak.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 17, 2020, 12:43:18 PM
Great video Mike, so relaxing - I could feel my blood pressure go down minute by minute.

For me the addition of the trees has created the atmosphere of a place like Hebden Bridge, where you have industry and country side by side.

Best regards,


Joe

Joe @joe cassidy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1484)

Thank you for your kind comments, my blood pressure went up making the video, as everything that could have gone wrong did, but got there in the end.

Itís funny you mention Hebden Bridge, as I originate from Mytholmroyd although moved away when I was eight, Hebden Bridge is a town I know very well, when building the layout, Hebden Bridge was always at the forefront of my mind from a scenery point of view. Indeed the road names and business proprietors names are all from my childhood and that area.

Again thank you for your comments and hope you continue to enjoy visits to Hillsden

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 17, 2020, 12:45:05 PM
Hugely enjoyable to watch, and at a pace I like :)
Just when I was thinking "By heck. Nothing stops here" along came the Brush Type 2 and did just that
I also enjoyed the muzak.

Thanks Mick for you kind comments, so glad you enjoyed

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on June 17, 2020, 03:25:07 PM
Hugely enjoyable to watch, and at a pace I like :)

Totally agree, a great video Mike  :thumbsup:

Just when I was thinking "By heck. Nothing stops here" along came the Brush Type 2 and did just that

How bizarre, thatís exactly what I thought, in fact I was willing something to stop and then one did  :thumbsup: great way to keep everyone in suspense though..

Cheers Derek

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 17, 2020, 09:15:49 PM
Hillsden Day 52

After last nightís struggle to run trains and create a video, and changing the soundtrack late on meant Nbodger was quite late posting Hillsden Day 51. From the responses received today it appears that you enjoyed my effort, although I personally thought it was poor. What it did highlight, well at least to me how much stock still needs a visit to the paint shop.  :(

Looking on my workbench there are two kits that need a touch of paint and weathering, they have been there since February, before anyone asks February 2020, but if I am honest the Gresley full break was started a few years ago.

Old Nbodger got up early today with a plan of what he wanted to achieve on Hillsden, did I do what I set out to achieve, well read on.

Mrs N returned from walking the dogs and I was about to disappear along the path to Hillsden, then I was told that she was going to work in the garden, so someone will have to stay in with the dogs. Since lockdown the cocker spaniel has become a garden wrecker, so best out of the way.  :(

What shall I do, my plans in tatters, I had to think quickly on my feet (and thatís not easy), could I turn this to my advantage, quick I can volunteer to stay in the house and wait for it, get on with that goods yard crane. So, I said to Mrs N, ďits ok I will dog sit, so you can get on in peace in the gardenĒ   ::)

Soon as Mrs N was outside, I ran upstairs and sat at my workbench and made progress on the crane, until lunch.  ::)

Well I finished my lunch and Mrs N was watching the news (something I avoid these days), knowing that she was going to go back in the garden, I nipped into Hillsden for forty minutes, if I couldnít get out then my plans for the day will be unachievable.

Escaping into Hillsden I immediately set to work on the concrete paving to Thornbers yard, sanding down the area before grouting the area to fill any small gaps etc., luckily, I got this completed just as Mrs N came out to get on with the gardening. Wow had I been in Hillsden for 40 minutes, doesnít time fly when you are enjoying yourself.  ::)

I returned into the house and finally finished building the crane, which is now ready for the paint shop, it could be a long time before the crane sees the light of day again with Nbodgers track record, however, I do need it fixed on the layout as soon as possible, so watch this thread.  ::)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-170620201014.jpeg)


When Mrs N returned from the garden, guess what sly Nbodger quickly disappeared for his second visit of day to Hillsden to rub down the concrete paved area ready for painting and weathering. I also gave a weathering wash to the repaired roof of the workshop.

Unfortunately, the new roof still looks quite light compared to the existing, a lot of the difference no doubt is down to natural weathering over twenty years or so. Next, I will lightly rub in some weathering powders and call it a day, then the scaffolding can come down.

I have come to the conclusion that I am not going to get anywhere near the existing road finish, so it will be assumed the bay of the building has been re-roofed, which in fact it has.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-170620201431.jpeg)

Can you tell which is the repaired section?

Following tea and Nbodger doing the washing up, I made a third visit to Hillsden, giving a first coat of paint to the concrete paved area in Thornbers yard.  ::)


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Thornbers yard after its first thin coat of paint.

The concrete paving is bays of 20tho plastikard, laid in a jointed concrete paving grid, this gives a grid of joints, which looks more natural than scribing or drawing them on a plain surface. It also makes it easier to lay in a irregular shaped area.

I quoted part of a post from Joe Cassidy to Mrs N, bad mistake

For me the addition of the trees has created the atmosphere of a place like Hebden Bridge, where you have industry and country side by side.

Best regards,
Joe

Mrs N quickly stated ďI told you which tree should go where, so I am claiming the creditĒ , no hope for poor old Nbodger, canít even have the euphoria of credit been given for what he believes he has achieved.

Mouth tightly closed from now on.  :'(

Well, thatís all for this evening, hope you have enjoyed, sorry no boring video tonight, just the less than exciting photographs.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)




Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 18, 2020, 09:37:41 PM
Hillsden Day 53

It has been a bit of a wet day here today, but still fairly warm and pleasant.

Well today has been a mixed day of emotions from high to low and partially back to high again.  :confused1:

First this morning I decided I was rapidly running out of the necessary supplies to keep working on Hillsden, so went on an online shopping spree, with comments from Mrs NBodger, like you wait until I go out shopping what you spend today will be nothing compared. She doesnít really mean it so I carried on flexing the card.  :-\

Bought myself a new set of drills, this will allow me to finish erecting the street lights, some paints I was running short of (I do seem to have used a lot of paint during this lockdown) , various adhesives and some other odds and ends, soon spent £60, but it will keep me going for a few more weeks. I could nearly have bought a locomotive from Union Mills with what I spent, especially if you add the scatter material, I am going to purchase this evening, as I have run out of topsoil.  ::)

I also spent a lot of time thinking about the next area of Hillsden for redevelopment and submitted a report to Hillsden District Council for approval. The area concerned is the redundant canal with its lock. There is a story to tell about the lock, but that can wait until I have finished developing the area.  :thumbsup:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-180620211207.jpeg)

The contractors have been back to Thornbers yard again and given the paving a coat of concrete colour, unfortunately They now need more paint to complete, which should be here in the next few days, but the area is brightened up as it was painted black for many years.

The Goods Yard crane has had a coat of primer and now awaits is top coats and weathering, although a simple white metal kit, it does not look too bad when placed in the goods yard, although not really happy about having a solid face to the jib in lieu of lattice work, but decided not to alter or scratch build a jib, it would be thwart with problems, so decided to build as is, except for cladding the masonry in plastikard to match the adjacent finish. One day I may be tempted to replace with a brass kit, but plenty of other things to do first.  ::)

I have one or two locomotives in need of some loving care and maintenance. I have already informed you of the Class 108 DMU that appears to have a split gear, and the Class 40 which has the same problem, the Class 40 didnít surprise me but the 108 did.  :(

My 8F has not run this year, wouldnít move under any power setting at all, I had decided to send it off and have it repaired, well today I had a look at it, fiddled a bit with its pickups, you know the drill pushed and prodded, returned to the track and what happened, after a bit of a stutter it ran, this loco has not been run that much so gave it a good 30 minutes of running in both directions, ran reasonable well, just a few power issues on certain bits of track, but this is a problem with some older Farish loco,s that take more power than the new motors and I think this is caused by faulty fish plate connection, need to check the track for power drops. Tonight, the loco is still running well under load.  :claphappy:

I also have a Jubilee which was when Farish first brought it out, their first tender drive If I remember correctly, it has never run well and I had consigned it from early doors into an expensive display model. Earlier this year I noticed it had a traction tyre missing, well that could account for the problem, had it always been missing.

Anyway, today I got the screwdriver out and replaced the tyre, confident it would run, which it did, better forwards than reverse, but only ran well at high speed, however, when running slow stalled on points, derailed a few times. But I persisted with it and the more it ran the better it got, so early evening I attached seven carriages to her, she struggled around the fiddle yard bends without full power, indeed needed full power all round, derailed a couple of times under full load and eventually shed the replaced traction tyre when she derailed on the points in the fiddle yard, back to square one. I believe it is a weight issue and bounces on any slight track problem and loses connection, but may be wrong, needs further investigation and work.  :doh:

After being depressed with the Jubilee I decided to run a couple of trains and took some photoís, here is one from this evening, I have saved the others for another day.

Enjoy

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-180620211332.jpeg)

8F on coal empties meets express passenger train hauled by a crab

And here they are on the move, short video, including no music




Thatís all of todays tales from Hillsden, so off to do some more internet shopping, hope you have enjoyed todays exploits  ::)

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 18, 2020, 10:33:05 PM
Mike. Dr al maybe able to help with those split gears. Like the viaduct and the canal scenes. Impressive video my friend. Chris
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on June 18, 2020, 11:55:34 PM
Nice video Mike, not seen a Crab before is it kit built ?. My black Five is tender drive and that kept shedding tyres when I last run it, think I will avoid tender drives apart from Union Mills models.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on June 19, 2020, 07:51:17 AM
Nice video Mike, not seen a Crab before is it kit built ?. My black Five is tender drive and that kept shedding tyres when I last run it, think I will avoid tender drives apart from Union Mills models.
Yes a lovely video and I agree abut the crab too.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 19, 2020, 08:42:48 AM
Nice video Mike, not seen a Crab before is it kit built ?. My black Five is tender drive and that kept shedding tyres when I last run it, think I will avoid tender drives apart from Union Mills models.
Yes a lovely video and I agree abut the crab too.

Laurence / Chris
@lil chris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784) @Innovationgame (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091)

Thank you for your kind comments

The Hughes Fowler Crab is a Poole built Graham Farish locomotive and not kit built. I am not that good a building kits, I have a Foxhunter A1 Peppercorn kit half built, which I bought twenty four years ago, maybe one day it will get finished and you may see it on Hillsden, hauling the Thompsonís that I have still got to build.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 19, 2020, 08:45:37 AM
Mike. Dr al maybe able to help with those split gears. Like the viaduct and the canal scenes. Impressive video my friend. Chris

Thanks Chris for your kind comments and your suggestion, however, I have other means to get the split gears sorted.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 19, 2020, 09:22:48 AM
Keep up the good work
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on June 19, 2020, 09:46:16 AM
I'm getting impatient for the re-tooled 8F (Sept??) and would really like a re-tooled Crab.
I've always considered it a macho, brutish sort of loco - the sort that won't take any prisoners with Troublesome Trucks :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 19, 2020, 09:51:05 AM
I thought from that earlier post that the daleks had landed!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 19, 2020, 09:54:29 AM
Mike I like too the gentle incline where the crab is heading ! And which the 8F has just headed up. Clever and deceiving but relistic
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 19, 2020, 10:16:08 AM
Mike I like too the gentle incline where the crab is heading ! And which the 8F has just headed up. Clever and deceiving but relistic

Chris, Itís just Nbodgers bad joinery skills, the trackbed was intended to be level  ;D

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 19, 2020, 10:19:30 AM
I would not worry Mike it just looks like there is a nice incline not as steep as say miles platting bank, manchester , this gives a northern feel to a train heading up a hill. Love it
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 19, 2020, 10:22:09 AM
I thought from that earlier post that the daleks had landed!

Well posed shot, wait until it’s on the layout, with the doctor and his tardis, unfortunately a little out of scale.

There are a few things I would like to exterminate

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 19, 2020, 10:24:46 AM
I've got heaps of Australian wildlife on my layout... and they ain't plastic!  ;)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 19, 2020, 09:01:18 PM
Hillsden Day 54

Again, got up early this morning with the intention of getting the household chores done early, so I could have a good day in Hillsden, as usual things did not go to plan.

Had breakfast, phoned the hospital to check if I still have an appointment on Monday, good job I did, as I do have an appointment, NBodger was confused because he got two appointments at different times and one had been cancelled. Anyway, all sorted.

Spent 90 mins on the phone with youngest Nbodger who is a university, so at present it is our only way of communicating.

In the end it was just after 2:00pm when I ventured to Hillsden where I was summoned to the District Council Offices, where they wanted to discuss my proposals for the development of the redundant canal, after a long discussion they finally give me permission to proceed.

Well the first three items of work that need to be undertaken are general landscaping, completion of canal walls and design and construction of the old lock gates.

General landscaping will have to wait, as I have had to order some topsoil to cover the area, the design of the lock gates is ongoing as I write this, well that only leaves the walls.

So with the help of the masonry contractor we set forth to finish the coping stones, but early on we met with a minor disaster, I partly demolished one of the lock walls and had to glue back in place   :doh:, donning waders we set too to place the coping stones, which were completed around 5:00 pm. The waders and jacket were covered in mud and silt, so required a shower afterwards, also my hands were covered with adhesive, so much so touch identification would not work on my iPhone, so then had to remember the passcode, you know what Nbodgers memory is like.

Anyway, the canal looks a little tidier and when all has set, will require a small amount of filler to rescue old bodgers bodge ups, then a good sanding down, painting and weathering, then we can move to the next stage.

I have been giving some thought about constructing the water, in this was I donít think it would be wise to use one of the proprietary system as with Nbodgers carpentry skills it would either all end up as a solid pool on the floor or at one end of the canal, so it looks like I will be using that tin of Ronseal on the shelf in the garage and painting the canal bed with a zillion coats of varnish.  :-\

Meanwhile I will be constructing the lock gates, thank goodness they donít have to work.

Well thatís all that was really done today on Hillsden, it has got to the stage where there are no real quick fixes we are getting down to the detailed cameo scenes that hopefully will bring Hillsden to life but do take a lot of time to construct, hopefully not another 26 or so years.

I havenít taken any photographs today as not much progress to show you, however on yesterdayís photo shoot I did take numerous stills of the 8F and Crab, so here they are again.

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(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-190620205540.jpeg)

Thatís it from NBodger today, so hopefully a more productive days over the weekend, perhaps I will be allowed by Mrs N on Sunday to spend the whole day in Hillsden as it is Fatherís Day

Before I go just a little story to finish with, my granddaughter who is three next month has been watching the last two videos I posted, as the trains approached each other she started panicking as she was convinced, they were going to crash and ended up in tears.  :(

Granddad must remember no more scary movies.   :doh:

Yes, I use a three year old to get the video views up on my YouTube channel, I hope she is one of the subscribers to the channel.  :-[

Hope you enjoyed todayís visit to Hillsden albeit a short one.

Stay safe and best wishes


Mike H  8) 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 20, 2020, 08:38:33 PM
Hillsden Day 55

Thought in the morning I would get a few household chores out of the way, to earn a few more credits off Mrs N, it worked because later in the date show was ordering some art materials and she kindly added some expensive Matt varnish for me to her order.

After a simple crossword completed, I cut the lawn for the third time this week, each time it seems to have grown more, it’s all this rain, followed by the sun that causing it. No, I didn’t follow Laurence of Marton Hinmarche fames idea of feeding it beer so it came up half cut, as I know from experience too much beer kills it off.

I even followed the lawn cutting with hanging out the washing, without being asked, does that get me a few more credits.  :angel:

Well after lunch I was just about to set off for Hillsden when there was a knock at the, it was a delivery for me, at first, I thought it was one of Train Waiting’s belated birthday presents gone astray, but yes it was definitely for me.

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The box of copies was an assortment of supplies that had either or was nearly running out, slowing down the progress of Hillsden. Well now I was in a quandary, what should I do next, after the delivery there are now so many things I can now finish.

Anyway, the first job was to help the stone masons on the canal and lock walls, first rubbing down all of the walls and coping, then using a newly acquired tube of filler to fill any gaps and left it to set.

Well what to do next

I went back into the house a spent some time building some lock gates, which I need to adjust slightly, but quite pleased with them, photo below shows them temporary in place with blutak. They are a wee bit wide, so will adjust. The intention as the canal is redundant, the gates will be modelled slightly open.

The other day I said there was a story to tell about the lock, well here it is:-

My career was an estimator for a major civil engineering and building contractor, over the years I have been involved in a few lock constructions, namely Kiln Hurst, Mexborough Top and Swinton locks to name a few. Back around 1994/95 I was pricing a new lock on the Rochdale Canal, this was Tuel Lane lock in Sowerby Bridge, I thought I would copy a few of the drawings for home use as I had the idea, I wanted to build a lock in Hillsden. You have got to understand that I don’t really know about canals except for involvement with work and when I was very young walking along the towpath of the Rochdale Canal on a Sunday between Mytholmroyd and Luddenden Foot. Well I built the lock structure minus the gates; I was quite pleased but did look a bit deep for the location I had in mind.

A few months later I was sat in the waiting area of a hospital, there was a stack of magazines to read, so I picked one up and started reading to entertain myself. The article read “the Deepest Canal Lock in England” carried on reading, well the article was about the new Tuel Lane lock, that replaced two previous locks that had been filled in.  :-[

Oh heck (or words similar) what have I done, that evening I got out a razor saw and cut half of the depth off the canal. It goes to show you should always check the history and other facts before starting.  :unimpressed:

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Next, I decided to paint the masonry walls and coping of the canal in the local stone colour for Hillsden, which is Desert Sand as used for a brief time on those nice looking, diesel hydraulics, the Westerns. I managed to just about squeeze the last drop out of the tin, so now annoyingly I need another tin of paint, which is made worse as today’s parcel contained a variety of replacement paints, but not desert sand.  :doh:

Had a quick look through my paints and found a couple of tinlet’s if mixed together would give something near, so fingers crossed that is the way we will go, when heavily weathered it should look alright.

Tonight’s job is to adjust the gates, and get them ready for painting

So that all that has been done on Hillsden today, so hopefully over the coming week the canal area should be nearing completion, as long as my order for earth coloured scatters turns up quickly.

Thank you for reading, hope you have enjoyed

Stay safe

Mike H  8)




Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 20, 2020, 08:42:59 PM
2 months and progressing well mike. I am impressed with the lock gates. You are well versed with the Calder valley by the sounds of it
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 20, 2020, 11:44:55 PM
2 months and progressing well mike. I am impressed with the lock gates. You are well versed with the Calder valley by the sounds of it

Thanks Chris,

Since the photo was taken I have made some adjustments to the lock gates, they should hopefully fit better.

I was born in the Calder Valley and lived there for my first eight years, my mothers side all came from the valley, so still have relations who lived there, but not visited the area for about three years

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: impinabox on June 21, 2020, 12:04:23 AM
Deluxe Materials Perfect Plastic Putty!  Happy memories (well, sort of happy) of trying to make an Airfix Junkers 88 look something like!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 21, 2020, 02:08:08 AM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
All looking really superb Mike, excellent modelling    :thumbsup:.
 Your Photos & stories bring back happy times, although my local canal was the Leeds Liverpool in the Aire Valley  :thankyousign: 
    stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 21, 2020, 04:13:52 AM
Mike.  Please can you say what material did you use for the lock gates? I did look at resin, scalescenes , whitemetal . In the end I used plasticard
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on June 21, 2020, 07:35:52 AM
2 months and progressing well mike. I am impressed with the lock gates. You are well versed with the Calder valley by the sounds of it
Seconded!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on June 21, 2020, 08:38:29 AM
Thank you very much for all these fascinating posts and excellent photographs, Mike.

I thought the photograph of the Horwich Mogul crossing the viaduct (Day 34) was especially fine.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 21, 2020, 09:20:50 AM
Deluxe Materials Perfect Plastic Putty!  Happy memories (well, sort of happy) of trying to make an Airfix Junkers 88 look something like!

Hi Mike
Yesterday was the first time I have used any Deluxe product, must say I am impressed. I have in the past always used Humbrolís filler, which I do not like, but unfortunately it was the only choice at the local model shop. Similarly they stopped supplying Mek-Pak and was left with EMA plastic weld, which I find is not quite as good for fine detail work.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 21, 2020, 09:32:05 AM
:hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
All looking really superb Mike, excellent modelling    :thumbsup:.
 Your Photos & stories bring back happy times, although my local canal was the Leeds Liverpool in the Aire Valley  :thankyousign: 
    stay safe regards Derek

Hi Derek,
Thank you for your kind comments

After living in the Calder Valley, when then moved to between Leeds and York which is River Wharfe country, but also became acquainted in later with the Leeds Liverpool Canal through work.

The start of the canal is at the rear of Leeds Railway Station, where No 1 lock is situated at its junction with the River Aire, just prior to the weir on the Aire under the station.

Just after the first lock on the canal there is a basin which also led to a further lock under Leeds station which gave access to the River Aire above the weir. This was used to take coal by barge to the power station on the banks of the Aire just up from the railway station.

The lock and void under the station has since been filled in, however you can still make out the entrance on the River side.

Just thought I would throw in a little bit of useless information

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 21, 2020, 09:35:51 AM
Be interesting to see how others find deluxe products compared to mek pak mike ?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 21, 2020, 09:42:07 AM
Mike.  Please can you say what material did you use for the lock gates? I did look at resin, scalescenes , whitemetal . In the end I used plasticard

Hi Chris
The lock gates are constructed from plastikard,  in fact it is all Slaters Microstrip, the main frame is 80tho square (representing 300x300mm) which in my case was built up from 4nr 40tho square sections bonded together. I bonded full lengths of microstrip before cutting to make it less fiddly. The vertical planking is 40x20 tho microstrip.

The gates have now been slimmed down a bit, with 2mm removed from each gate, still need to see how the look in the lock

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 21, 2020, 09:44:00 AM
Thank you very much for all these fascinating posts and excellent photographs, Mike.

I thought the photograph of the Horwich Mogul crossing the viaduct (Day 34) was especially fine.

Best wishes.

John

Thank you John for your kind comments and appreciation

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 21, 2020, 09:46:43 AM
Look forward to the next instalment. I was not sure whether it was plasticard but looks wonderful
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 21, 2020, 05:46:08 PM
Hillsden Day 56 and counting

What an odd sort of day it has been weather wise, this morning it was raining, then warm and sunny followed by thunder and hailstones and showers.

Today is Father’s Day so, I thought I would treat myself to at least half a day running trains, did I manage it, well read on.

In the morning did my usual Sunday household chores, yes, didn’t even get respite from the chores, then an early lunch, meanwhile during the morning Mrs N had taken the dogs for their walk, she said that Ruby the Labrador had been limping, anyway didn’t think anything of it has she has arthritis but later noticed she was cleaning her foot a lot, then noticed there was quite a bit of blood on the tiled kitchen floor, eventually we found she had a deep cut to her paw, so cleaned it, bandaged it and planted a lampshade on her head to stop her from pulling the dressing off, see how she goes, may be a vets job yet, if it is then that’s the Thompson coaches gone.

All this action was followed by visits from two of our children bearing Father’s Day gifts, a chocolate train, a model shop gift voucher and an England cricket World Cup shirt from last year. Unfortunately, due to the current world situation I won’t be wearing it to any England matches this season, typical as I had tickets for the T20’s at Headingley against Australia and Pakistan.

Very thoughtful children, will be again speaking to them tonight as we have a family quiz via zoom

Anyway, finally got out to Hillsden at around 3:00pm for a running session, well, it ended up being a video session, I am quite enjoying my new found passion of filming the layout and sharing the end product with you all.

After videoing spent the time editing etc. ready for posting

Actually, for the first time in quite a few weeks I have not done any modelling except for checking the modified lock gates for size, and I pleased to report they look 100% better, I will update with photo later in the week.

Well here it is the video at 4mins 28 seconds long, hope you enjoy




Thank you for watching, please return soon


Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 21, 2020, 05:54:07 PM
That's a lovely video mike. Speed and control helps the viewer to enjoy watching the trains with no loud music and commentary
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 21, 2020, 09:45:45 PM
That's a lovely video mike. Speed and control helps the viewer to enjoy watching the trains with no loud music and commentary

Thanks Chris, Glad you enjoyed it

Stay safe

Mike H 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: greenlaneman on June 21, 2020, 10:20:32 PM
Canal contractor left sandpaper? under the viaduct!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 21, 2020, 10:44:31 PM
Canal contractor left sandpaper? under the viaduct!

I only noticed it after doing all the filming, most annoying, but there are more anomalies in the goods yard, like rail waggon stranded on paving.

Need to check carefully in future

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: belstone on June 21, 2020, 11:01:45 PM
Poor Ruby, hope she is OK.  I very much enjoyed the video, definitely captured the atmosphere of the area.

Richard
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 22, 2020, 07:31:00 AM
Poor Ruby, hope she is OK.  I very much enjoyed the video, definitely captured the atmosphere of the area.

Richard

Thanks Richard for your appreciation
Ruby seems ok this morning, but will still have to keep an eye on her and hope she doesnít get an infection.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 22, 2020, 08:04:11 AM
Good morning, as good as a Monday morning can be. At least it's behind me now here! Sun just setting.

Great video. Particularly liked the long train of minerals.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 22, 2020, 08:24:12 AM

Great video. Particularly liked the long train of minerals.  :thumbsup:

Thank you George, much appreciated.
Donít worry it will soon be sunrise on Tuesday

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 22, 2020, 08:52:12 AM
 :laughabovepost:

And then baby sitting GrandBealette.

Stay safe too.  :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 22, 2020, 09:06:15 PM
Hillsden Day 57

Today, has been a different type of day, well at least since lockdown, but this has meant not a lot of time spent in Hillsden.

For the first time since lockdown began, I have ventured past the house boundary, although it was nothing exciting. Today I had my three months checkup and blood tests at the hospital, so this took all of the morning, even though the hospital is only 20mins drive from home.  :(

Being on the Forum is causing old NBodger problems and I donít think there is a cure. There are so many members starting new projects or extending existing ones which seems to have set the imagination of members into overdrive. This morning NBodger started thinking (very dangerous as this usually has repercussions) about how he could extend Hillsden when the build is finished, you know a couple of feet added on the end, a junction in the main line, or even extra scenic modules added to the front to give an extra six or nine inch of width. The length option is not a possibility, but addition to the front could be a possibility to continue the scenics. Then he got to thinking about a small exhibition layout, whatís happening, he will have to stop reading other members posts, this is getting serious, help is desperately needed. ???

After lunch and sorting our online shopping order with Mrs NBodger, I ventured along the path to Hillsden. The problem now is which little bit to get on with as majority of the work is small but important jobs, majority of the quick gain areas have been done.

First Nbodger visited Thornbers yard to see how the roof repair was blending in, gave the whole roof a good brushing and vacuumed the debris up, to remove 20 plus years of dust and take it back to near its original state when first constructed. This was followed up with a slight application of weathering powders on areas of the whole roof. For me it now all blends reasonably together, judge for yourselves.  ::)

Roof before final weathering

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Roof after final weathering

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Next NBodger visited the masonry contractors working on the canal walls and copings. His first job was to the contractor that he needs to clean up after himself on a daily basis whilst working in the area, as the District Council had had a complaint from a member of the public regarding wet and dry paper left on the road and spoiling yesterdayís video. Bodger has had assurances that this will not happen again.  >:(

Today the masonry and copings stones were given a second coat of paint, although different colour to yesterday, if you remember the paint yesterday ran out. Bodgers not certain of the colour, but it is going to be heavily weathered to reflect the damp environment, so maybe it doesnít matter, will start to apply weathering and see how we get on. If not happy then will start the process again.

Once the walls are finished, then the whole area can be landscaped, which will make a huge difference to the area. I have had notice today that the topsoil has been dispatched, so should arrive in the next day or so.

Stop press: We had gas lighting arrive in Hillsden last week, well today the first two electric road lighting columns were erected on Burnley Road, after a few weeks of preparation.  ::)

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The goods yard crane has still not been finished but is few steps nearer completion, Bodger has placed in temporarily in the goods yard, to make sure it suits the location.

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Bodger is still awaiting a package of goodies he ordered three weeks ago, which are needed to be able to complete the  construction of the signals, after chasing up I received an email yesterday saying they were ready for dispatch, so hopefully they will arrive in the next day or two, certainly hope so, as Hillsden is being operated without any consideration for passengers and employees safety.

Well that all for todayís update on life in Hillsden, hope you have enjoyed your visit.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 22, 2020, 09:08:52 PM
Thanks I've enjoyed today's offerings. Mike I hope you can find time to spend on hillsden
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on June 22, 2020, 10:22:19 PM
I like that flat-roofed signal box, Mike.  It's one of these things that would look fairly hideous in real life but makes a charming 'N' gauge model.

Good luck with your signalling project.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 22, 2020, 10:28:31 PM
I like that flat-roofed signal box, Mike.  It's one of these things that would look fairly hideous in real life but makes a charming 'N' gauge model.

Good luck with your signalling project.

Best wishes.

John

Thanks John,

The signal box roof is safe and well
It is in the paint shop awaiting painting and weathering before fixing permanently, it has never been fixed in case of damage during the layout build, I am quite good at damaging things accidentally.

I fully expected someone to pick up on it

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 23, 2020, 07:43:14 AM
Thanks I've enjoyed today's offerings. Mike I hope you can find time to spend on hillsden

Chris your welcome and I will always find time to spend on Hillsden, it is what keeps me entertained in retirement.

Stay safe

Mike H
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 23, 2020, 09:14:41 PM
Hillsden Day 58

What a beautiful, hot day it has been today, unfortunately too hot for NBodger to do any work, except for the morning, but that didnít include anything towards Hillsden.  :(

This morning did a bit of housework to keep in Mrs Nís good books  ::), followed by cutting the grass to the rear of the house, which seems to need a cut every couple of days, mind you with it looking green and tidy, it certainly provides a pleasing setting for Mrs Nís borders, which are full of colour from spring to autumn.

For the first time since lockdown began, I ventured out to the front garden, which is quite narrow and next to the public footpath, so not easy to social distance and I am aware that neighbours who havenít seen me for three months may want to come and have a chat as they pass by, which does normally happen  :-\. Anyway, I ventured out and cut the grass, which was around 6Ē long (Mrs N had cut it once previously), I also cut back some of the flowers, which by now where blocking half of the public footpath. All in all, a good mornings work, but by now I was very hot, sweaty and tired.

Next Mrs N requested an hairdresserís appointment, so again I had to wield the scissors on Mrs N head and tidy her mop up, hopefully saving money in the long run. I keep telling Mrs N that her hair looks better than it has done for a long time.  :smiley-laughing:

Finally, after lunch escaped to Hillsden, put the fan on as the heat was increasing, but what did we do on this visit.

First old bodger visited the lock gate suppliers, they were just giving a second coat of timber coloured paint to the gates, prior to weathering, they will soon be ready to install in their permanent position in the old disused lock.

Who knows one day the canal may be opened up by canal enthusiasts, then no doubt new sets of lock gates will be required to replace these old dilapidated ones.

Hillsden is quite lucky as only the lower lock gates are required, if Bodger had thought a bit more, he could have positioned the lock further back, so that no gates would be required.

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View of the canal through the arch of the viaduct, with the lock gates temporarily fixed in place

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Closer view of the lock

The canal contractors were also on site and they had been quite busy, they spent around a couple of hours, colouring the coping stones, they still require dry brushing with varying shades. Also, the stone walls of the canal and lock were dry brushed with various shades of dark green, to represent algae and moss on the damp walls.

The pictures above can be compared with the one taken the other day, still far from finished

The position and small nature of the canal and lock, is making it difficult to see and work, this should really have been completed prior to the buildings and viaducts being placed, however, In this case it probably wouldnít have worked as the design developed during construction, always a difficult one.

However, this was hard work in the afternoon sun and the dry canal bed soon became moist from the hard workers sweat, well at least the puddle clay wonít dry out too much.

Next will be a weathering wash or two to help finish the scene, followed by painting the canal, varnishing and planting quite a few reeds, especially on the mill side of the canal.

May have to take a quick trip to Sainsburyís (other supermarkets available) to pinch a couple of shopping trolleys to throw in the canal, for a bit of added realism.

It is a short post today as I have an invite to  @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222) 's house warming party in Poppingham and I donít wish to be late.

Having seen tomorrow weather forecast with potential highs of 30 deg C poor old NBodger will not be venturing into Hillsden, but staying in the house, probably building the signals

So thank you for reading, hope you have enjoyed your visit.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 23, 2020, 09:41:53 PM
The only suitable trolleys I've seen are preiser made osborns model, out of stock or shapeways. Links available if need. I would just add grime  dirt , oil  and weeds floating or a branch
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on June 23, 2020, 10:17:31 PM
You are progressing well with the layout Mike, you want to come in my railway loft room it is so hot in here. On the good side any gluing I do drys pretty quick. I actually offered to cut my wifes hair for her,I must be mad, fortunately she said no. I have let her cut mine twice already, easy with a shaver we have had for years what she used to cut my two sons hair with.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 24, 2020, 08:05:09 AM
The only suitable trolleys I've seen are preiser made osborns model, out of stock or shapeways. Links available if need. I would just add grime  dirt , oil  and weeds floating or a branch

Chris

I have my plans for the canal for debris and rubbish, all will be revealed in due course. The reference to supermarket trolleys was said tongue in cheek.

Apologies for the confusion

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 24, 2020, 08:13:37 AM
I guessed that mike.was just being helpful. Stay safe
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 24, 2020, 02:48:56 PM
You are progressing well with the layout Mike, you want to come in my railway loft room it is so hot in here. On the good side any gluing I do drys pretty quick. I actually offered to cut my wifes hair for her,I must be mad, fortunately she said no. I have let her cut mine twice already, easy with a shaver we have had for years what she used to cut my two sons hair with.

Hi Chris,

Yes it is coming along nicely, unfortunately it is all generally small detail items, which make a scene but are time consuming to construct. But I will get there, last thing I want to do is spoil what has been achieved by rushing.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 24, 2020, 08:20:28 PM
Hillsden Day 59

Again, it has been a very sunny and hot day, yes you have guessed it was too hot and tiring for Nbodger so not a lot was done today, would much rather have been sat on a beach with a nice sea breeze and a long cold drink.  :pint:

After breakfast and before it got too hot, I nipped into Hillsden, but only for around ten minutes to do a little work on the canal. I just mixed a very dilute weathering wash of a 50:50 Matt black and a Matt green and copious amounts of thinners, quickly brushed over the stonework. The object of the wash is twofold, first to tone down the stonework and second to give an algae and moss visual effect tying in the yesterday’s dry brushing, not looked yet to see if it has worked or weather further work required. When it is a little cooler the next step will be to dry brush the coping stones to give them some variance.  ::)

Ten minutes later when I left Hillsden it was starting to get uncomfortable, the room is half of a our double garage, partioned, plasterboard lines and well insulated, but the problem is the remaining garage part is not insulated and the heat buildup, so with opening and closing the railway room door, lets in the heat, and it soon gets very hot, but the main problem is me, in this weather I am just uncomfortable.

So, I set my stall out in the dining room and started building the semaphore signals, but what did I achieve.  :)

I decided to start building the signal kits I purchased around three weeks ago, although I had ordered some additional items to go with them, which I was still awaiting delivery.

First, I started with a single post distant signal of which there is only one on Hillsden, the signals were white metal castings from PD Marsh however, I had thought about replacing the ladders with etched brass ones so I ordered a few to try, however, this was the outstanding package.

So, I built the first signal as far as I could without the ladders, then would you believe the postman knocked at the door with a package. Just at the right time the ladders arrived so I added them to the first signal.

Next, I started one of the two junction signals for the layout, this time I chose to build a home signal which will form the starter signal to platform three, for the mainline and branch. I didn’t quite get around to completing this signal and have left it until tomorrow to complete as again, it looks like being a hot day.

So, not very productive day, the build was slow, generally caused by mu inability these days with small parts and had to use blu-tak to hold things steady. One good thing I managed not to glue my fingers together.

Please see photographs below of today’s efforts

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-240620194442.jpeg)

Front elevation of distant signal

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-240620194540.jpeg)

Rear elevation of distant signal, showing ladder arrangement

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-240620194647.jpeg)

Home junction signal under construction, since the photo was taken the platform support has been fixed in place.

Progress is quite slow on Hillsden at the moment, but this is due to the smaller detail items being added which takes time as most items have to be built, painted and weathered, so a simple item can take a few days before it is ready to be “plonked”

Well that is it for todays update, hope you have enjoyed

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 24, 2020, 08:25:33 PM
Mike. I always find signals to make tricky. Sure it will be worth the wait. On the subject of the canal it was the approach which I took. I do think having an algae and moss visual effect and lock gate sills and handrails give the locks a good talking point
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 25, 2020, 12:36:25 AM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
  Thanks Mike always enjoy the trip back to Yorkshire & remember all progress is good progress. Take care & stay safe
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 25, 2020, 09:49:06 AM
Mike. I always find signals to make tricky. Sure it will be worth the wait. On the subject of the canal it was the approach which I took. I do think having an algae and moss visual effect and lock gate sills and handrails give the locks a good talking point

Hi Chris,

From my point of view it is a problem with my left hand, that makes building delicate things difficult, which is something one has to live with, possibly accept lower standards, but develop ways to make things easier, using Blu-tak has helped make a big difference.

Luckily with the canal lock being redundant, handrails are not really required as the gates are in a dilapidated state and also only modelling the lower gates negates the cill.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 25, 2020, 09:51:02 AM
Thanks mike for being open. Still we love your modelling standards and skills
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: impinabox on June 25, 2020, 09:57:06 AM
Hillsden Day 58
May have to take a quick trip to Sainsburyís (other supermarkets available) to pinch a couple of shopping trolleys to throw in the canal, for a bit of added realism.

Don't forget the old bikes!  There are plenty of N gauge bikes around.  A Dutch friend once told me that if they took all the old bikes out of the Amsterdam canals they'd be 3ft deeper!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 25, 2020, 09:57:31 AM
:hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
  Thanks Mike always enjoy the trip back to Yorkshire & remember all progress is good progress. Take care & stay safe
     regards Derek.

Cheers Derek, you are always welcome to my little town in Yorkshire.

Canít agree more about progress, often find 30mins here, 15 mins there achieves more than  half a day session, because you concentrate solely on your task and donít wonder onto other things like running trains.

Oh I forgot running trains is what it is all about !!!!!

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 25, 2020, 10:03:16 AM
Hillsden Day 58
May have to take a quick trip to Sainsburyís (other supermarkets available) to pinch a couple of shopping trolleys to throw in the canal, for a bit of added realism.

Don't forget the old bikes!  There are plenty of N gauge bikes around.  A Dutch friend once told me that if they took all the old bikes out of the Amsterdam canals they'd be 3ft deeper!

Mike,

I have the bikes already, part painted ready for the canal, plus some other items

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on June 25, 2020, 10:49:24 AM
A Dutch friend once told me that if they took all the old bikes out of the Amsterdam canals they'd be 3ft deeper!

Should that not be shallower? :confused2:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: impinabox on June 25, 2020, 12:07:25 PM
Should that not be shallower? :confused2:
:no:   :worried:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: weave on June 25, 2020, 12:57:55 PM
Hands up who's spent too long in a coffee shop  :)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 25, 2020, 08:36:26 PM
Hillsden Day 60

What another beautiful day but will it last?

Nbodger made the decision yesterday that he wasn’t travelling to Hillsden today, did he go or not?  ???

As said yesterday he stayed in the house, out of the heat and continued work on the semaphore signals, which were started yesterday.

There is a total of nine signals to build, these consist of six home signals, one home junction, one distant signal and one distant junction.

Today the signals are all but finished for installation of the ladders and paining, to complete will be potentially a few days’ work, painting probably the longest. Hopefully they will soon be adding a little bit of colour trackside and allowing Hillsden to be a safe railway for both employees and the travelling public.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-250620202149.jpeg)

The signals are all non-working, decisions have had to be made as to whether the signals should be displayed on or off. A compromise has had to be made as to how these should be displayed, well I have decided that the home signals for the main line to be shown off and all other home signals for branch and bay platforms to be shown on. The distance signals will all be shown as caution, with the exception of the main line on the junction signal which will be shown off.

Unfortunately, cannot set for all situations, but I thought that was a reasonable compromise and after accept that in some instance’s trains will pass danger with their fingers crossed.

I suppose I will have to tackle the ground signals, now that will be a leap of faith to get all of them in the right place, but before that I have to clean them up and paint them, if I can they are so small and fiddly. Another challenge for NBodger.  :worried:

My daughter gave me a gift voucher for Father’s Day, I am thing of spending it on a magnifying light with possibly helping hands, may need it before attempting the ground signals.  :thumbsup:

The postman finally delivered the topsoil and grass seed (flock from Green Scene), this will enable all of the scenic areas to be completed, but not today, sometime in the near future, the first area will be around the canal, but first I must finish the canal.  :thumbsup:

Also, Mrs N had a package delivered today which contained art paper she ordered and a nice bottle of Windsor and Newton’s Matt varnish for NBodger, so plenty to get done now. At this rate I will be back on the wagon kits. Thinking about it I could do with some more goods wagon kits, coaches, locomotives, buses, cars, commercial vehicles, people ...

For those who are interested an update on our Labrador, Ruby. She has been to the vets this morning and had her paw stitched as it wasn’t healing. She was a brave dog and had it all done under a local anesthetic. Still after food all the time so she is fine  :thumbsup:

Well that’s it for today, after posting this update I think a little bit of priming to the signals may be in order.

Hope you have enjoyed today’s brief update and will visit again.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

PS I have promised my granddaughter that I will film another train video for her, so in a few days watch this thread.  :doh:

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 25, 2020, 08:42:44 PM
The signals are all non-working, decisions have had to be made as to whether the signals should be displayed on or off. A compromise has had to be made as to how these should be displayed, well I have decided that the home signals for the main line to be shown off and all other home signals for branch and bay platforms to be shown on. The distance signals will all be shown as caution, with the exception of the main line on the junction signal which will be shown off.

Unfortunately, cannot set for all situations, but I thought that was a reasonable compromise and after accept that in some instanceís trains will pass danger with their fingers crossed.

Could some be made removable so they could be swapped for photos?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on June 25, 2020, 08:45:19 PM
How about using Johnís @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222) Trick of fixing a track pin to the base of the signal. Donít glue them down but allow the signals to be moved thus replicating on or off.
Itís worked for me on Tregonning.
The problem comes if you have more than one signal on each post as you then need multiple variations.

Iím not at all sure that I have made that clear (Other than as mud) but perhaps you get my drift.

By the way, cooler , damper weather is heading your way.
North, I believe (or NW)  :D
Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 25, 2020, 08:46:52 PM
Mike. Those signals are good. Just to help you. I'm not good with fiddly stuff so I have sourced realistic ground signals from https://northwesternmodels.co.uk/products/categories/n-gauge/trackside-details-n-gauge/page/2/     I'm liking the sound of a magnifying light . There are some good ready painted n gauge vehicles and people on the market happy to add links
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 25, 2020, 10:38:35 PM
Mike. Those signals are good. Just to help you. I'm not good with fiddly stuff so I have sourced realistic ground signals from https://northwesternmodels.co.uk/products/categories/n-gauge/trackside-details-n-gauge/page/2/     I'm liking the sound of a magnifying light . There are some good ready painted n gauge vehicles and people on the market happy to add links

Chris,

Those are the ground signals I have got, but unpainted. So will have to see if I can finish them better that the ready painted version.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: belstone on June 26, 2020, 07:28:31 AM
Thanks for the update, including Ruby.  Signals will make a huge difference to this layout and I look forward to seeing the result.

I use the W&N varnish: it is a very good product but needs a lot of mixing.  I put a couple of old ball bearings in the bottle to help agitate it.

Richard
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 26, 2020, 07:44:02 AM

Could some be made removable so they could be swapped for photos?

How about using Johnís @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222) Trick of fixing a track pin to the base of the signal. Donít glue them down but allow the signals to be moved thus replicating on or off.
Itís worked for me on Tregonning.
The problem comes if you have more than one signal on each post as you then need multiple variations.

@port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230) and @tutenkhamunsleeping (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1490)

Just prior to ordering the signals I had had a conversation with John @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222) and thought that having the signals removable therefore interchangeable for photoís was a great idea, I even decided to order a couple of extra signals.

But guess what some plonker forgot the extra signals when placing the order.

Over time I have given this more thought (again very dangerous), one of the problems is I also like to post videoís so I couldnít in reality set all the signals required for the shoot as it would require multiple changes plus all the handling gives rise to more damage and problems. If you were posing for stills only then it is a excellent idea.

So this is how I came to my decision, I am however, still mulling over whether to make the signals removable for track cleaning, this would prevent NBodger from demolishing them, like he did with a colour light signal a few years ago.

Hope that gives you a explanation of my thoughts.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on June 26, 2020, 08:57:11 AM
[...] I am however, still mulling over whether to make the signals removable for track cleaning, this would prevent NBodger from demolishing them, like he did with a colour light signal a few years ago.

A few months ago @Hailstone (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1193) advised me to remove signals for track cleaning.  What an absolutely splendid idea and one that has no doubt saved a lot of damaged signals!  Unless there is a special reason not to*, I agree that signals are best made removable.  My suggestion about making signals with different aspects for photographs was simply a development of Alex's advice.  Martin has used this approach to stunning effect.  I was delighted to see that that Steve, whose workmanship I admire greatly, has suggested this approach as well.

I am really enjoying seeing developments on Hillsden, which is a very fine layout indeed.

* Working semaphores with complex operating arrangements are a good example.

With best wishes.

John   
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 26, 2020, 09:51:46 AM
Thanks for the update, including Ruby.  Signals will make a huge difference to this layout and I look forward to seeing the result.

I use the W&N varnish: it is a very good product but needs a lot of mixing.  I put a couple of old ball bearings in the bottle to help agitate it.

Richard

Thanks Richard @belstone (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2569) for the heads up on W&N varnish, will take note, that is the thing I dislike about painting is the continual mixing you have to do, especially where a low volume is involved.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 26, 2020, 10:06:52 AM

A few months ago @Hailstone (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1193) advised me to remove signals for track cleaning.  What an absolutely splendid idea and one that has no doubt saved a lot of damaged signals!  Unless there is a special reason not to*, I agree that signals are best made removable.  My suggestion about making signals with different aspects for photographs was simply a development of Alex's advice.  Martin has used this approach to stunning effect.  I was delighted to see that that Steve, whose workmanship I admire greatly, has suggested this approach as well.

I am really enjoying seeing developments on Hillsden, which is a very fine layout indeed.

* Working semaphores with complex operating arrangements are a good example.

With best wishes.

John   

John @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222)

Thank you for your response, I am minded to make the signals removable, however, I have changed the ladders to etched brass so are quite delicate and have concerns that too much handling may result in damage to these.

I also need to establish what method of temporary fixing to use, I am obviously aware of your adopted method.

Last of all thank you for your kind comments on Hillsden, comments like this all help to push me on.

Looking forward to the next adventure on Poppingham

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on June 26, 2020, 10:41:03 AM
Of course there is a alternative to removable signals.........working signals.....or is that putting the cat among the pigeons. Lol.
Ps too warm in my loft at the moment 90+ yesterday, so no work on my layout.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on June 26, 2020, 10:56:47 AM
Of course, it's not just signals that get damaged during track cleaning.  The bain of my life is chimneypots, which I manage to knock off with regularity.  Ideally, I would like to install working semaphore signals, but that will be almost the last thing I install on my layout.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 26, 2020, 01:14:20 PM
Of course there is a alternative to removable signals.........working signals.....or is that putting the cat among the pigeons. Lol.

Chris @lil chris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784)
No you havenít put the cat amongst the pigeons.
Going back to the layouts conception it was always the intention to have working signals, however there wasnít anything off the shelf for working semaphoreís so headed in the colour light direction. I bought two with the intention of buying more, never got around to it, now these are no longer manufactured, although others are available. I also damaged one cleaning track and that was where we were a few weeks ago.

The only off the shelf working semaphoreís are Dapol, so to signal the layout with these was in the order of £200 to £300, plus all the upheaval of wiring them in on a multi board layout and the risk of damage during cleaning, I opted for non working, cheaper to replace if they get damaged, so that is where we are.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 26, 2020, 01:24:25 PM
Of course, it's not just signals that get damaged during track cleaning.  The bain of my life is chimneypots, which I manage to knock off with regularity.  Ideally, I would like to install working semaphore signals, but that will be almost the last thing I install on my layout.

Hi Laurence @Innovationgame (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091)

That is an interesting point, I havenít managed to damage any chimney pots, but as you look around a layout, how much do you make removable to save damage whilst cleaning. A general clean of the layout could damage street lights, vehicles, station detail, people etc.

How much do you leave removable?

Very wise to leave signals to a late in the build installation, but on a multi board layout, leave provision for any power connections etc between boards and control panels else you may find adding additional connections difficult.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 26, 2020, 01:43:21 PM
How much do you leave removable?

In my experience, it's all removable.  Just a question of how easy it is to stick it back afterwards :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on June 26, 2020, 02:36:59 PM
Very wise to leave signals to a late in the build installation, but on a multi board layout, leave provision for any power connections etc between boards and control panels else you may find adding additional connections difficult.
If and when I get round to signals, I intend them to be DCC operated, so they will connect directly to the DCC bus and require no extra wires.  A novel way to operate them might be to use Cobalts with a right-angled link, so the horizantal movement of the operating rod could be converted into a vertical movement for the signal.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on June 26, 2020, 05:47:37 PM
I think it is wise to stay away from the Dapol signals they are to say the least not very reliable. I believe they have modified them now but that does not help all the folks who have already purchased the first version, myself included. Pleased I only bought the one and I run it on dc as advised, it stopped working just before I dismantled the layout. It was well out of warranty, has I had it for ages before I got round to fitting it.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 26, 2020, 08:17:08 PM
Hillsden Day 61

Another very hot day, as the day goes on with rumblings of thunder over the wolds, will we or wonít we get some much needed rain. I hope we donít get any thunder and lightning else we will be up comforting the dogs, who definitely donít like loud bangs.  :doh:

Well today, NBodger did venture to Hillsden, but only for two very short periods in the morning, on both occasions to do a little work on the canal area. First I gave the canal bed a base colour of a matt brown and matt black mixed approximately 50:50, from this will look at adding two or three appropriate washes to give a canal water colour, but remember this is a redundant canal, not sure when I will be happy with the colour, so will have to see what happens.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-260620200801.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-260620200902.jpeg)

I have also been giving some thoughts to a silted area to the canal, maybe just in one area, built up around debris, will have to see how it goes, a little sceptical about getting a realistic finish.

I also gave the last remaining area of the layout to have exposed plaster a coating of some green acrylic paint to seal the surface ready for applying the layers of flock.

The area around the canal now looks very dark, no doubt it will soon spring to life with a bit of colour.

The rest of the day it was back to building the signals, last night I gave the signals a coat of primer, once primed they look a lot better than the base metal.

When I decided to go forward with PD Marshes white metal LNER signals I decided that I didnít want to use the supplied ladders which are out of scale. To replace them I purchased some ratio etched ladders, but could only find at the time two packs when I really needed three. The etches were a leap of faith, see below comparison between ladders supplied with the kits and ratio replacement ones, which look better?

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-260620200711.jpeg)

Photo shows the ladders on the new signals with the PD Marsh ladder laid in front

By the way I have already made my mind up and believe the etch ladders were the best choice. Too late now as I have now ordered another set of the etches. The ladders that have been fitted still need a little close cropping to finish which will be done in due course.

Apologies for having the last three posts on signals, but there hasnít been much other work carried out on the layout. I will have to work on something fresh over the weekend to stop the boredom, I am one of these people who has a few projects going on at once.  ???

So thatís it for this evening, hope you have enjoyed your visit and look forward to your company in Hillsden again.

Stay safe


Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 26, 2020, 08:28:40 PM
Ratio ladders for me mike. Impressive work on the canal viewed through the tunnel
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 26, 2020, 09:18:37 PM
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-260620200801.jpeg)

Bung a train in that photo and it could be an Eric Treacy shot :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 26, 2020, 10:08:00 PM

Bung a train in that photo and it could be an Eric Treacy shot :thumbsup:

I donít think it will make it through the locks  :D

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 27, 2020, 08:52:04 AM
Ratio ladders for me mike. Impressive work on the canal viewed through the tunnel

Thanks Chris

The etched ladders do make a big difference to the signals and turns them into a very nice item, maybe not as detailed as other manufacturers, but how much does precise detail matter in N.

I would recommend to anybody to change the ladders on PD Marsh signal kits, I appreciate that the fine detail of brass cannot be replicated in white metal and there is always a compromise.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 27, 2020, 09:01:14 AM
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/8543-260620200801.jpeg)

Bung a train in that photo and it could be an Eric Treacy shot :thumbsup:

It could, though.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 27, 2020, 08:14:41 PM
Hillsden Day 62

Got up this morning to rain after a very humid night, it was still quite warm outside but with a nice breeze that made it quite pleasant,

The plan for today was to get more work done on Hillsden, well, how did I get out.  ::)

After breakfast and letting Mrs N have a sleep in I developed a plan of action, the first was to sort the kitchen out and clean the floor, followed by dusting and hoovering downstairs, when Mrs N finally surfaced she took the dogs for their run.

Whilst Mrs N was out with the dogs and after another cup of coffee, I thought as it had stopped raining and dried a little, I would try and get the grass cut, whilst I thought about it the heavens opened and we had ten minutes of heavy rain, we needed it after not getting a drop yesterday.

Needless to say, when Mrs N returned she looked like a drowned rat, so helped her clean the dogs and would you believe it, it was lunch time.  :smiley-laughing:

You see all these helpful things I did in the morning were my ticket to Hillsden or was it?  ::)

I was just thinking about getting some work done on Hillsden, when Mrs N declared she was going to work in the garden and was going to leave her gardening assistant the cocker spaniel with me, I thought wait a minute I am being outdone here again, so I bravely, stated with a forceful voice that I was going to work upstairs at my workbench. Mrs N replied the dog will just bark, so I said let her so at that the gardening assistant joined Mrs N in the garden. Well I was taken aback I had actually won the battle, argued my way to freedom, so I ran upstairs before any other problems erupted. To be fair the cocker spaniel actually behaved herself as she was tired from her earlier run.  ::)

Well what did I get up to for Hillsden

I fancied a change so I looked at a bit of detail work for Thornbers yard. Some years ago I purchased the Ratio, oil depot kit and around twelve months ago I assembled the two tanks, which each are around 10,000 litre capacity, I had often thought where am I going to put them, you see they were one of those impulse buys we all do, although a cheap one on this occasion. I had decided that the Thornbers complex would be modern and fueled by oil, rather than coal in other parts of the town, I thought the tanks would look rather good in a corner of the yard with a bund wall around them, so that is what I have done. Having checked that the volume of oil could be contained within the bund should both tanks rupture I continued with the build.

Well took me a couple of hours to the stage as seen in the photograph below, a bit slow by @port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230) 's pace, because whilst I built the tanks, he has built half a motive power depot and put me to shame, he has even had the paints out.  ???

Well the next stage is to paint and weather before fixing in place, I will try not to take too long.

I ventured along the long winding path to Hillsden, oil tanks in hand to check if they looked ok in the chosen location, I am happy with the result, but you can judge for yourself in the photograph below

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-270620182415.jpeg)

Whilst out in Hillsden, NBodger dry brushed the canal coping stones with a lighter grey, they now stand out a lot better and the whole scene is slowly taking shape.

In Hillsden Day 61 I posted a photograph of the canal looking through the viaduct arch, two comments came back from @tutenkhamunsleeping (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1490)  and @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255)  that if it had a locomotive in the photograph then it would be like an Eric Treacy photograph, so I thought I would give it a try, so here it is, this time with a Black Five, hope you enjoy.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-270620182514.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-270620195806.jpeg)

I also today did a little bit more with the signals, adding another couple of the etched ladders, still a long way to go before the signals will grace Hillsden, should get the additional ladders during this week, which when fitted will only leave the painting to do, a long job in its self, but it will be nice to see the contrasting colours of the signals against the greys and browns of the layout, hopefully bringing it all to life.

Thatís all folks for today, hope you have enjoyed your visit and look forward to greeting you again in Hillsden.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 27, 2020, 08:18:17 PM
The Bishop lives on :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 27, 2020, 08:19:11 PM
Look forward to the signals mike. Green to go. Honest oil tanks look good
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 27, 2020, 10:14:58 PM
The Bishop lives! Needs to be black and white, though.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 27, 2020, 10:32:08 PM
The Bishop lives! Needs to be black and white, though.  :thumbsup:

George,
Your too predictable, I new you would make that comment, unfortunately just didnít get round to doing it.

Wait and see, it may happen yet

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 28, 2020, 10:52:25 AM
Just for @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) curiosity, yesterdays photograph in black and white to reflect a true Eric Treacy photograph, enjoy

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-280620104908.jpeg)

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 28, 2020, 10:57:00 AM
Mike, that is brilliant, but you can make it better.

How about you stick a length of track up there with the loco on it  ;)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 28, 2020, 11:05:42 AM
How about you stick a length of track up there with the loco on it  ;)

That's fighting talk in these parts :o :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 28, 2020, 11:30:44 AM
Mike, that is brilliant, but you can make it better.

How about you stick a length of track up there with the loco on it  ;)


How about you stick a length of track up there with the loco on it  ;)

That's fighting talk in these parts :o :D
Gents,

Please do not give Mrs N any excuses for utilising a piece of track

Sorry to disappoint, it is quite narrow and would struggle to get track and loco there with my fat hands that will not fit within the viaduct arch. There is no way I could replicate that photo again, the light shadow to the front of the loco was an experiment that worked, the camera lens was at the entrance to the arch and I took the photo with flash which was basically outside the arch up against the viaduct wall just to see what effect it would have. Obviously the monochrome has be digitally enhanced from the colour photo taken yesterday.

Anyway, glad you appreciated the effort

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on June 28, 2020, 11:38:46 AM
How about you stick a length of track up there with the loco on it  ;)

That's fighting talk in these parts :o :D

 :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Not sure Mike would be too chuffed afterwards
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 28, 2020, 11:45:01 AM
How about you stick a length of track up there with the loco on it  ;)

That's fighting talk in these parts :o :D

 :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Not sure Mike would be too chuffed afterwards

There would certainly be smoke coming out of my chimney  :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 28, 2020, 12:01:47 PM
Nowts impossible.  :P
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 28, 2020, 08:29:42 PM
Hillsden Day 63 (9 weeks and counting)

Today it has been a very quiet day in the development of Hillsden, but I chose to have a break.  ::)

After lunch, for the first time in fifteen weeks (period of lockdown) I ventured out for a walk with Mrs N and our two dogs, we headed along the off road footpath towards Common Lane, Welton, which runs parallel to the River Humber and was out for a little over an hour. When we returned, I was flagging and we only walked 2 miles, I was in desperate need of coffee to bring me round.  :sleep:

It was very pleasant to finally get out, and the wind was not too bad as most of the walk was sheltered, if we had ventured onto the rivers flood bank then it would have been a different story, I would probably be still there chasing after my hat.

I promised by granddaughter that I would film another train video for her, so on return, I set off to Hillsden, but not before that coffee.

Well was a hard session, why does everything go wrong when you donít want it to, something that has worked perfectly starts causing you problems. I shot some 30 minutes of raw material, which turned into approximately nine minutes of output for the final edit.

There are a couple of problems, the video is split into two parts, the reason being the first session ended abruptly I ran out of space, so it was difficult to start from the same place as I had continued playing trains for another few minutes before I realised the camera had shut down.

This time I filmed from the fiddle yard, showing a view only the operators normally see.

The film is entitled Trains for Alice, Alice being my granddaughter.

Before leaving Hillsden to edit the video footage, I gave the canal a thin wash of a light brown and green wash, I must admit I am quite happy with the finish, I also tried the Windsor and Newton varnish on a small discrete area, I must see I am very very pleased with the results.

Anyway, here is tonightís premiere, not available on Netflix or Sky Movies, hope you enjoy



Well thatís it for today, hope you have enjoyed your visit, and you will take time to visit Hillsden again.

Stay safe


Mike H  8)



Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 28, 2020, 08:50:10 PM
Mike. I hope your granddaughter loved this as much as I did. Super overhead scene
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 29, 2020, 08:00:22 AM
Mike. I hope your granddaughter loved this as much as I did. Super overhead scene

Hi Chris,
She hasnít seen it yet, she is three towards the end of July, so was asleep when I sent the link for the video
Stay safe
Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on June 29, 2020, 08:25:58 AM
I am babysitting my granddaughter all day tomorrow - ALL day, (8am-6pm) as practice for when her mum goes back to work next week. Great fun!  :uneasy:

I'm sorry, Mike, but I'm not sure I like the helicopter view in the video. It just doesn't do your excellent layout justice.

Sorry!  :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 29, 2020, 09:11:46 AM
I am babysitting my granddaughter all day tomorrow - ALL day, (8am-6pm) as practice for when her mum goes back to work next week. Great fun!  :uneasy:

I'm sorry, Mike, but I'm not sure I like the helicopter view in the video. It just doesn't do your excellent layout justice.

Sorry!  :beers:

Thanks George for your honest view and your your compliment on the layout

I keep trying different locations to video from so the videoís donít all look the same, the layout is quite difficult to get a good view, because of the curves and bridges obstructing a full view, but that was the intention when built.

I must admit I quite liked the view, but the quality of video and size of screen does not do it justice.

There is one particular location I would like to try but cannot get access to film, photoís are ok but canít support the camera for filming as I need a smaller tripod.

I am going to keep trying different locations.

Good luck with full days babysitting, until Covid19, we looked after Alice three full days a week, but havenít seen her since other than by video calls.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 29, 2020, 09:13:38 AM
Looking forward to the next instalment mike. Having a different view just gives a different perspective and angle on the railway and all the hard work that has gone into the project
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 29, 2020, 03:05:00 PM
Looking forward to the next instalment mike. Having a different view just gives a different perspective and angle on the railway and all the hard work that has gone into the project

:hellosign:
Yes I'll second that
   stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 29, 2020, 09:12:11 PM
Hillsden Day 64

What a change to the weather, it is windy and showery here in Hillsden and the temperature has dropped from its highs of last week.

This week is the start of a new norm for me, now venturing out with the dogs, today it was just one dog, Ruby, who I took along the roads, strange going through the station car parks as there were only three cars, where in normal times people fight for spaces, often with people parking illegally.  :worried:

Trans Pennine Express are actually looking for land to build a third car park for the station due to the parking problems, will it ever be needed, will we get back to pre Covid19 passenger levels, who knows.

After taking Ruby for a walk, as usual I got on with some household chores, followed by a video conference with ex colleagues, also another video conference mid afternoon with members of the North Lincolnshire Area Group of the Society. Hopefully soon we will soon be able to meet up as a group and get on with building our new exhibition layout.  :doh:


Eventually after lunch I ventured to Hillsden, not knowing which of the hundred tasks on the list I was going to undertake.


Well the decision was soon made, as I donned the chest waders to work in the canal, there was a couple of cracks in the puddle clay, so I got out the Perfect Plastic Putty and carefully reinstated the puddle clay seal to the canal. When dry the brown / black mix was reinstated, then when dry it will again be flooded with a green / brown wash to check that the canal no longer leaks, if happy then a satin varnish will be applied, if the surface of the satin varnish is not reflective enough then will change to gloss, however, I only want to achieve a slight shimmer to the surface.  ::)

Once the varnish coats have been applied and all is satisfactory then work can finally start on the landscaping to the canal area, this should make a big difference to the layout.

Next on the list was a visit to Thornbers yard to further the work on the concrete pavement, to-date the pavement had had only one coat of concrete colour, so a second and final coat was applied. When the paint has dried and cured, the area will be given weathering treatment, not decided yet what method to use, but possibly the same as the footpaths, which was coating with a darker colour and partially removing. May also give the area a dirty was as well, just need to see out it works out.  ::)

The councils, contractors have also been busy in Hillsden they have been around causing hold ups with the stop-go boards as they did minor repairs, all looks well now and the surface repairs have blended in.  ::)

The main roads on Hillsden in reality should have road markings, but when a standard marking is 100mm wide, which is approx 0.7mm wide to scale, therefore seems a pointless exercise unless you make them over scale, so Nbodger has decided not to include them on any of the roads.  ???

NBodger is also awaiting a couple of packages this week for Hillsden, nothing really exciting like a new locomotive or rolling stock, but final set of Ratio ladders for the signals, so will soon be able to complete them. The other package is some small magnets, so I can conduct some trials on hands free uncoupling, so a little bit of shunting can be done.

I am slowly painting the signals that have been completed, but do not propose any more signal update photographs until they are in place on the layout.

I have also to make a decision of when to disconnect the main control panel and undertake the various modifications, plus alterations to the fiddle yard. The fiddle yard is one area of the layout that has not appeared on the forum, when it does, it will show the inadequacies of Nbodgers joinery skills.

Due to space the main control panel was mounted vertical, but this makes it difficult to operate, I am minded to build a support frame on castors to mount the panel on at an angle, the castors will allow it to be moved under the layout for storage and access.

Sorry no update pictures this evening, as the development is only visually minor.  :(

However, i went back to Hillsden this evening and had a little photo session, here is the result, hope you enjoy  ;)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-290620205349.jpeg)

Ivatt 2MT Pulls into Platform 2 with an early evening working of Mark 1 Suburban Stock, taking the workers home in time for tea after a hard days work in the city.

I never intended to purchase any Suburban stock for Hillsden, however, these were a Christmas present from my wife and daughter a few years ago.

Well that’s it for today, so thank you for taking the time to view.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on June 30, 2020, 08:27:26 PM
Hillsden Day 65

The day has been overcast and warm, with no rain, well what happened today and did old NBodger get along to Hillsden or was he outwitted by Mrs N, read on and find out.  :confused1:

Well after breakfast I accompanied Mrs N to take the dogs for a walk, it was my longest walk since lockdown, we were out for around 90 minutes, yes I was tired out when we got back and ready for a rejuvenating cup of coffee, and surprised Mrs N made it, what was she after?

Did a couple of household tasks around the house and then ventured back outside to cut the lawn, I hadn’t been able to cut it for nearly a week, it had really shot up, and was desperately in need of a trim, just like my hair.

As usual had a chunter and a moan whilst cutting the grass, you see Mrs N every year always plants her flowers too near the border, so I have got a little fed up of telling her every year, so if they expand onto my grass then the mower wins every time.  >:(

When I had finished cutting the grass, it was lunch time, unusually Mrs N, made my lunch, what is she after?  :confused1:

Well I soon found out as she disappeared into the garden, without her little helper, the cocker spaniel, suddenly I realised I had again been outwitted and left high and dry in the house with two dogs to entertain.  :doh:

After I had had lunch, I ignored the dogs and disappeared upstairs to my workbench and started those little jobs that take a disproportionate amount of time to do. In this instance it was painting various bits and pieces, you know the ones where you spend ten minutes stirring a tinlet of paint for one dip of the brush to paint the required job. Don’t you just hate these little time consuming tasks.

Eventually Mrs N came in from the garden and guess what Nbodger ran along the path to Hillsden, nicknamed Paradise.

The first job in Hillsden was to finish the concrete paving to Thornbers yard, this was achieved by coating in enamel paint of a dark grey, which has a bit of a purple hue to it, this was quickly removed leaving only traces, followed by a thin coating of white spirit to remove more paint residue and polish individual slabs. This was the same technique used for the footways on Hillsden. All that is left is to give the whole area of matt varnish to tone it down. See the results in the photograph below

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-300620200432.jpeg)

The next job was to don the chest waders again and work in the canal, this was to give the canal a final weathering was before weathering, a Matt brown and Matt green were mixed 50:50 with copious amounts of thinners. After applying this has been left to completely dry prior to the varnish applications.

I wish to have some reeds in the redundant canal, so today I attempted to grow some before transplanting, this comprised a layer of PVA glue laid on a non stick surface and laying of the reeds in the glue, when dry, this will be followed by subsequent layers to form clumps, that hopefully can be trimmed and glued in place within the canal, fingers crossed.

Also the first of my expected packages arrived today, this was the small magnets, so will be able to get on with the remote uncoupling trials soon. The second package is due tomorrow.

Well that is all I have got done on Hillsden today, which I spent around three and a half hours working, doesn’t time fly when you are enjoying yourself.

Last night I was looking through some old photos and discovered a part made video from the stills, these photographs were taken in 2012 and 2013 on the North York Moors and the Nene Valley Railway, anyway, I finished it off last night and thought I would share it with you. It is only very short, but I thought it would make a change to see the real thing. Enjoy





After yesterday’s photo of the Ivatt on the evening local, well it returned this morning tender first, hauling the first local service of the morning to Leeds, the station was quite busy because, as the Ivatt waited to depart from platform 3, a stopping service from Leeds to Liverpool approached platform 2 hauled by a Hughes Fowler Crab.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-300620200545.jpeg)

Well another day ends, hope you have enjoyed this evening’s read and return soon to Hillsden

Stay safe

Mike H  8)


Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 30, 2020, 08:35:37 PM
Hi mike. One day you will ask mrs nbodger for time to do modelling substantially . Look forward to the reeds in the canal, but seriously you wrote a quality paragraph on the disused canal and methods used
 
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 01, 2020, 08:06:42 AM
Hi mike. One day you will ask mrs nbodger for time to do modelling substantially . Look forward to the reeds in the canal, but seriously you wrote a quality paragraph on the disused canal and methods used

Chris,
I just hope the reeds work, if they do I may want to add more, which will delay completion of the canal.

Mrs Nbodger occasionally encourages me to go to Hillsden, well I think that is what she means  :no:

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 01, 2020, 09:05:37 PM
Hillsden Day 66

This morning woke up to a damp day, I had already made it known that I wasnít going on a hike with both dogs as I was tired out. All that walking over the last few days has finally got to me, certainly isnít the alcohol as I have had one small bottle in that time.

It was a big day today, another small package was due to arrive, I had the email to say it would be delivered today, nothing exciting in it though.

I did finally spend the gift vouchers that my daughter gave me for Fatherís Day, ordering an helping hands and magnifier, as it gets harder to see small objects and also to hold items whilst working on them, hopefully that will arrive sometime next week.

Well after lunch, I did venture into Hillsden with not a lot of enthusiasm, what did I manage to achieve, not a lot, but work that was required to open up more opportunities to allow future work to be done.

First Nbodger attacked the canal flooding it with a coat of Ronseal satin varnish from a very old tin that has been sat on a shelf in the garage since donít know when. The lid and parts of the tin where showing extreme signs of rust. Anyway, I never bothered giving the varnish a stir as I would prefer it on the glossy side, unfortunately we had no gloss varnish readily available. The first coat did dry glossier than satin. After five hours just before our evening meal NBodger gave the canal another coat of varnish and leaving overnight to dry. The canal will have a few more coats yet, however if it does not look glossy enough when finished then I will have to shell out for a small tin of gloss varnish, so hereís hoping all is ok.

I am quite happy at the finish of the canal after the second coat of varnish, however it is still very much wet, if I can achieve this look on completion I will be very happy, you may not agree, take a look at the photo below and tell me what you think

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-010720204332.jpeg)

It must be a day for varnish because old NBodger then got out the Winsor and Newton matt varnish he had recently purchased and gave all of the road surfaces a final coat of varnish to finally remove any little areas of sheen from the roads. It has taken a few weeks to get to this in Nbodgers eyes a satisfactory outcome, again very pleased. The choice of Winsor and Newton varnish was purely down to posts I have read on the forum, to which I thank you all.

This will now allow the council to come along and erect all of the street lighting columns, I am also now looking to permanently fix the station buildings and install the platform lights, which are already along with the station name boards to finally give it, its name.

So, some big changes to look out for

Also gave the paving to Thornbers yard a coat of matt varnish, this will allow this area to have some final detailing added, the oil tanks are already in the paint shop, patiently waiting their turn. Nbodger also needs to build a materials store structure for this area.

Finally, Nbodger did some more work on the reeds for the canal, please see photo below, which shows my method of constructing them, when dry they will cut up and glued into clumps and placed in the relevant locations in the canal, before the final varnish coats.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-010720204523.jpeg)
Well that it all for today, which has been a slow day, just a minute, donít go yet, yesterday I managed to photo the Crab departing platform 2 and travelling under Midgley Road Bridge with the early morning Leeds Liverpool stopping train shown In yesterdayís post arriving at platform 2.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-010720204818.jpeg)

Oh I forgot to tell you the package finally arrived around 4:00pm, it was only a final set of Ratio etched ladders required for the signals, which is a very small packet, but arrived in a box around half the size of a shoe box, what a waste og packaging. Still it will get recycled when i send off a ouple of loco's for repair.  :doh:

Thank you for reading, hope you have enjoyed todayís visit

Stay safe

.
Mike H  8) 8)


Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 01, 2020, 09:20:59 PM
Mike. I too use Windsor newton
 Will look really effective with a few more strokes of varnish and impressive muddy towpath I like. Certainly works well with working inwards with green, brown, black paints. Lovely photo of the Crab too. Certainly like the warehouse by the canal and pleased you made an essential purchase on the helping hands magnified. Chris
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 01, 2020, 09:46:00 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:
  The canal is looking really superb, nice work Mike   :thumbsup:
    stay safe regards Derek.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on July 01, 2020, 10:26:27 PM
The canal looks just fine to me, Mike
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 02, 2020, 07:49:40 AM
Mike. I too use Windsor newton
 Will look really effective with a few more strokes of varnish and impressive muddy towpath I like. Certainly works well with working inwards with green, brown, black paints. Lovely photo of the Crab too. Certainly like the warehouse by the canal and pleased you made an essential purchase on the helping hands magnified. Chris

Thanks Chris for your feedback.

Unfortunately the helping hands, wonít get the layout finished any quicker.

The canal colouring is a combination of various shades of green and brown enamels only, with no black added. The addition of black would have overpowered the other shades.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on July 02, 2020, 07:54:50 AM
Excellent modelling Mike.
The canal looks really effective.
In my opinion a waterway, be it canal or river or whatever, really adds interest to a layout.
Keep up the good work.

Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on July 02, 2020, 07:59:15 AM
It reflects the buildings very nicely.  :thumbsup:

However, shouldn't it be darker?  :hmmm:

I've always been a fan of the American method of modelling water.... make it black, so it reflects the sky and surrounds like a low grade mirror.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 02, 2020, 07:59:39 AM
I've only used black on the canal piling and towpath
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 02, 2020, 08:46:59 AM
:hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:
  The canal is looking really superb, nice work Mike   :thumbsup:
    stay safe regards Derek.

The canal looks just fine to me, Mike

Excellent modelling Mike.
The canal looks really effective.
In my opinion a waterway, be it canal or river or whatever, really adds interest to a layout.
Keep up the good work.

Martin

Martin @port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230) , Derek @cornish yorkie (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4216) and Mick @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)

Thank you for your comments / feedback on the canal finish, much appreciated, the area will soon be looking completely different when the landscape works are completed (I hope).

My only reservation about building a canal is the fact that I may end up in it one day, if Mrs N has her way.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 02, 2020, 09:00:28 AM
It reflects the buildings very nicely.  :thumbsup:

However, shouldn't it be darker?  :hmmm:

I've always been a fan of the American method of modelling water.... make it black, so it reflects the sky and surrounds like a low grade mirror.

Hi George @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255)

Thank you for your comments, much appreciated.

With regards whether the canal should be darker or not, I donít believe there is a correct answer as so many variants effect how we view water. I could for instance take a photo of the same stretch of water seven days in a row and in each photograph the water would appear different.

The colour, depends on the silt content, algae, the sky, sunlight, reflections etc. So to me there is no right colour as it is very subjective.

The room lights do not help in the photo as they show a very bright streak across the canal, which does not reflect the true colour, when the layout has its own lighting system, then hopefully this anomaly will be sorted

It maybe when the landscaping is completed the water looks too light, if so I will probably adjust.

Again thanks for your thoughts

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Jimmy77 on July 02, 2020, 09:49:26 AM
Hi Mike,

I think the canal looks really good, and has a good colour to it. As you say, it can change so much depending on environmental factors.

I found this picture which shows a few variations, and I think its a close match to yours, so good job I'd say!

(https://i.imgur.com/VLgv4ny.jpg)

And this aerial shot shows some good variations in different bodies of water

(https://i.imgur.com/ikkBnKr.png)

Cheers,

Jimmy
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 02, 2020, 08:38:57 PM
Hillsden Day 67

Well it rained all night and much of the morning, so not a good start to the day. This morning it was Mrs Nbodgers Yoga session via zoom, which she does twice a week, I have just realised today that it is costing best part of £50 a month and surely that money could be better spent on railway modelling.  :doh:

As Mrs N was doing yoga I brought the signals into the kitchen, to try and get the ladders completed, so that they were all ready for their turn in the paint shop. I managed to get all but one signal done, so hopefully will soon be complete.

This morning I thought also I would quickly give another coat of varnish to the canal, so, off I trotted to Hillsden, whatís this, the door to Hillsden was blocked, Mrs N had left her wet umbrella erect for drying right in front of the door, why couldnít she have used other unused space in the garage. So I moved it to gain access and more to the point very carefully replaced it when I left, just in case it was Mrs N keeping a check on what I had been up to.


in Nbodgers hurry or should I say slap dash way of working he forgot to lightly sand the previous coat and went mad applying the varnish.  :dunce:

After returning to the canal some 30 minutes later, he found disaster had struck and the varnish was not staying put, quick what shall I do (other words were actually used some of the four letter variety  :censored:). 

What I did under panic conditions got an old rag, one of Mrs Nís dresses, dipped it in white spirit and removed majority of the wet varnish.  ::)

Glad to say disaster adverted, well maybe not for the dress. Checking later all looks well and has dried with a consistent finish phew, the old heart was going at a pace and by was I glad I had taken my blood pressure tablets this morning.

Thank you to all those who gave their views on the canal after yesterdayís post, which were valid and useful, I have decided that I need to apply gloss varnish now for the final coats, this will give a much better reflection quality. Yesterdayís photograph was actually taken whilst the satin varnish was wet and hence had a glossier finish. I will press on with the landscaping and apply the gloss varnish on completion.

Unfortunately we had to take Ruby the Labrador to the vets again, she had to go to have a paw checked for last week, but today she had blood coming from her nose, apparently she has a growth, so she now is going for a biopsy on Monday, so fingers crossed.  :(

When Ruby returned from the vets, Mrs N and I took both dogs for a good walk, well at least it had dried up and was quite warm.

On return I nipped into Hillsden for a short time and did a little bit of landscape works to both Thornbers yard and adjacent the viaduct, still a lot more to do.

Well thatís all I have managed to do today, the days at the moment I seem to be getting less time on Hillsden, but it will get finished.  :(

Today I wished I had never joined the forum as it has cost me a small fortune, for weeks I have made reference to the new Thompson coaches, but never ordered any, saving money for other projects, indeed I have spent quite a bit of money during lockdown. The other day I decided that I wasnít going to pay that amount of money for a coach and that I would stick to Dapolís Gresley for ex LNER stock and look towards second hand for other types. Indeed, I could have kicked myself around twelve months ago for not buying some good condition Mark 1ís in crimson and cream from the local model shop.

During this morning reading the thread on the Thompson coaches and being very envious, I started to dream again, after categorically stating yesterday I wasnít going to buy any.


Well this afternoon what did I go and do, with the consent of Mrs N, ordered one of each crimson and cream variant from Rails of Sheffield. What Mrs N doesnít know is I added a turnout and some fencing to the order, well it will save on the postage.

Again, whilst looking through some older photoís I found some early photographs of Hillsden, so below is a photograph taken in April 2014, when I had finished building Helliwell and Sutcliffeís mill, but, prior to painting and weathering. The signal box is no longer there and the ancillary buildings for the factory reside where the polystyrene filler is. It certainly doesnít seem six years ago when those buildings were completed.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-020720201802.jpeg)

Well that all for today, although not a very exciting day to write about, nevertheless I hope you enjoyed.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)


Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 02, 2020, 08:55:22 PM
Look forward to more on the coaching stock mike. Maybe drop hints for Thompson and Gresley stock for  Christmas and if asked what they are vouchers will do
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 02, 2020, 09:03:27 PM
I wish you'd stop buying these coaches, I can't keep up :smiley-laughing:

Hugs to Ruby :heart:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 02, 2020, 09:06:50 PM
Mike what is the material in the scene bottom left of the photo please ? Intrigued
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 02, 2020, 09:11:54 PM
I wish you'd stop buying these coaches, I can't keep up :smiley-laughing:

Steve

Touchť  :P

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on July 02, 2020, 09:59:07 PM
Fingers crossed for Ruby - I hope all goes well on Monday.

With regard to the Thompson carriages, I regret that the fun is rather passing me by.  At Poppingham our clocks stopped at Hogmanay, 1938, whilst Sir Nigel Gresley was still alive.  So no Thompson stock here.  They look nice, though.

Best wishes.

John
 
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 02, 2020, 10:02:32 PM
Look forward to more on the coaching stock mike. Maybe drop hints for Thompson and Greeley stock for  Christmas and if asked what they are vouchers will do

Chris,

I think I have spent enough during lockdown for at least the next two Christmases, but hopefully Mrs N will forget by Christmas, especially if I am a good boy and do what I am told.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: chrism on July 03, 2020, 06:28:58 AM
Mike what is the material in the scene bottom left of the photo please ? Intrigued

Looks like expanding spray foam to me.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 03, 2020, 07:59:19 AM
Mike what is the material in the scene bottom left of the photo please ? Intrigued

Looks like expanding spray foam to me.
Mike what is the material in the scene bottom left of the photo please ? Intrigued

Chris and Chris,

The white material is expanded polystyrene sheets 25mm thick, cut to size and laid on end.

Hillsdenís baseboards are of open frame built from 9mm ply off a frame of 2x1 timber, the landscape area was filled with polystyrene sheet all glued in place to make a solid block around the trackbed. To create the various landscape contours this was then carved / sculptured to the shapes and building plateaus required abs coated in a thin layer of plaster for landscape areas or a cardboard / hardboard areas for the buildings to sit on.

It was a bit messy, but worked and allowed me to develop the landscape over time, obviously today other less messy materials are available.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 03, 2020, 08:02:04 AM
Appreciated mike. That's a mini tutorial in itself.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on July 03, 2020, 09:58:16 AM

Well that all for today, although not a very exciting day to write about

I have to disagree, Mike.
First you reveal the cost of Mrs N's zoom - a dangerous strategy if she was to find out.
Then you moved her umbrella and replaced it in hopefully the right place so as not to be noticed.
After that, you took one of Mrs N's dresses, referred to it as an 'old rag' and used it to wipe up  varnish.
You then added a couple of items without her knowledge to an order Mrs N had approved.

Talk about living life on the edge!! And you say yesterday wasn't exciting!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 03, 2020, 12:55:13 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
  Always enjoy my visit to Hillsden, you are doing a superb job. No what you mean, I bet we all wish for a money tree to feed the modelling. Last but not least best wishes for Ruby, hope all goes well.
   stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 03, 2020, 03:26:25 PM
:hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
  Always enjoy my visit to Hillsden, you are doing a superb job. No what you mean, I bet we all wish for a money tree to feed the modelling. Last but not least best wishes for Ruby, hope all goes well.
   stay safe regards Derek

Thanks Derek for your kind words and encouragement, as always very much appreciated.

I am off now to plant another money tree  :no:

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 03, 2020, 05:34:48 PM
Mike what is the material in the scene bottom left of the photo please ? Intrigued

Looks like expanding spray foam to me.
Mike what is the material in the scene bottom left of the photo please ? Intrigued

Chris and Chris,

The white material is expanded polystyrene sheets 25mm thick, cut to size and laid on end.

Hillsdenís baseboards are of open frame built from 9mm ply off a frame of 2x1 timber, the landscape area was filled with polystyrene sheet all glued in place to make a solid block around the trackbed. To create the various landscape contours this was then carved / sculptured to the shapes and building plateaus required abs coated in a thin layer of plaster for landscape areas or a cardboard / hardboard areas for the buildings to sit on.

It was a bit messy, but worked and allowed me to develop the landscape over time, obviously today other less messy materials are available.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
                                                                              hope to hear more mike on the positive work on the scenics. I admit I was curious and to what the material was and guess you can develop your scenery upon this
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Andy-S on July 03, 2020, 05:52:27 PM
Been looking through this thread, lots of good work there Mike, Your buildings are certainly something for us all to aim for. Iím still at the beginning with learning, been starting with some kits, though can see myself progressing in the future.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 03, 2020, 06:17:12 PM
Been looking through this thread, lots of good work there Mike, Your buildings are certainly something for us all to aim for. Iím still at the beginning with learning, been starting with some kits, though can see myself progressing in the future.

Andy,
Thank you for your kind compliments of my work, I hope I can inspire you to have a go at scratch building. If you do have a go, you will make mistakes, but you learn from them. I find the easiest thing is to build them, but it can be difficult to get the painting and weathering right.

I look forward to seeing your plans develop, always here If you need advice and I will help when I can.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 03, 2020, 08:12:57 PM
Hillsden Day 68

I thought I would be kind to Mrs NBodger today, and let her have a sleep in, but this meant I had two dogs controlling me, you see if I leave the cocker spaniel, she will bark and cry until somebody comes back, well if she wakes up Mrs N then my good deed will be undone straight away and guess who will be living in the dog house, old NBodger.  :doh:

Like yesterday the morning was a little bit wet, and we have had showers on and off all day, but I did manage to get the grass cut, good job static grass doesnít grow like Nbodgers lawn does, else we would all be in trouble.  ::)

In the morning I did manage to get the remaining ladders fixed to the signals without gluing my fingers together, it was a close call though. I just have to fix the safety hoops on around five of the signals, they into the paint shop.  ::)

After lunch I finally got to visit Hillsden to do a little bit of work, the landscape contractors were the only ones working, well it was Friday afternoon when I turned up.

The contractors were busy placing topsoil to the embankment that leads onto the viaduct from Scout Road cutting, it was very tight laying the soil within one of the reduced headroom arch spans of the viaduct, especially for Nbodgers over scale hands. Anyway, at least itís all done now.

They also top soiled the side of the canal, between the canal and the old mill,next it will all require some liquid fertiliser by way of the usual dilute PVA and a little washing up liquid, before planting can commence.

Next the stone towpath will need completing, this is just woodlands scenics ballast fixed in place with PVA to form a type of resin bonded pavement, which will be painted and weathered.

You will note I have stopped work on the canal waterway to allow the messy landscape works to be completed, before cleaning the canal and giving its final coats of gloss varnish, the real reason is that I havenít bought the varnish yet, but now sounds a fair plan.  ???

Hopefully over the weekend the landscaping to this area will be well on its way, I will look at taking some sequence photos of this area and post them when nearing completion.

Also, the contractors watered the planting they did yesterday at Thornbers, including a little bit of that magic PVA mix fertiliser.

As I now have all the equipment, I require to conduct my uncoupling trials to see what suits best, I started getting together a spare board and track and inserting a magnet in the board prior to laying track over. As I think I have stated in an earlier post I am experimenting finding a solution that works well with sprung couplings and locoís, I am quite happy that PECO wagons are absolutely fine and just need to make that second leap forward, to get a system that is adequate for how I wish to operate Hillsden. Get this cracked and I will be a very happy NBodger.  :-\

I will soon have to do some revamping work to the fiddle yard and add in the extra road for the branch line, that is why I ordered an extra turnout yesterday.

I have not taken any photographs today, so I have included an unseen photo from a shoot taken a few days ago, enjoy

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-030720200406.jpeg)

Close up of Ivatt 2MT approaching Hillsdenís platform 2, with the evening local stopping train

Well unfortunately thatís it for today, I need to get to bed early as I have promised Mrs N that I will get up early in the morning to take the dogs out, so youíve guessed it, Mrs N can have another lie in. Things one has to do to get a set of Thompson coaches, I am regretting buying them already.  :doh:


Stay safe and have a good weekend

Mike H  8)





Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on July 03, 2020, 10:06:48 PM
That's a very nice picture.  Mr Ivatt's 'Class 2' 'Moguls' are attractive little engines.

Many thanks.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 04, 2020, 08:32:18 PM
Hillsden Day 69

It has been overcast but quite warm with the occasional shower here today, however, it has been a busy today in Hillsden.

After breakfast and waiting for my youngest son to give me a ring at 10:00am, I say my youngest well he is 25 but quite a few years younger than his brother and sister, you know what these students are like, eventually phoning from his bed at 11:45 and by the time we had finished the call it was lunch time, however, I had put him on speaker and was able to continue to do a little bit of work to progress the signals, fixing the safety hoops which are little devils to work with, still another three to go, hopefully complete them over the weekend.  :-\

After lunch I disappeared down the garden path to Hillsden, where I found the landscape contractors hard at work.

Today they finished off the seeding works to Thornbers yard, this is now complete but for the addition of various cameo scenes etc. It looks a lot different than when I started the pavement works a few weeks ago, from plain black paint to a weathered concrete pavement and a few weeds, see photos below, NBodger is a lot happier with this area now.  :)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-040720201825.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-040720201914.jpeg)


Next was to further the works around the canal, this is going to be a slow process, both due to the cramped working conditions and the various slopes, which when diluted PVA is applied too a large area, then you end up with rivers of PVA which will contaminate the canal and then we would have the EA to deal with regarding a pollution spill, hang on this is the 1950ís to early 60ís, we should get away with it.  :no: Hence it is being undertaken in small areas.

Well the top soiling is nearing completion and work to the tow path got underway, but only around the lock at present. Hopefully seeding and planting during next week.  ???

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-040720202010.jpeg)

Arial view of canal area as today, please ignore the trees in the middle of the road, they are there for safe storage until they can be erected in their final position when the canal works are near completion.

The construction of the reeds looks well and after landscaping they will be installed in the canal, may even make some more if these turn out well.

NBodger also sorted out a length of track for his hands free uncoupling test, this required a section having the sleepers re-threaded onto the rails as it had been damaged. The length of track has now been glued to the test board. Now need to install a second more powerful magnet and rig up some power feeds to the track, then add tiny magnets to a select few items of rolling stock. Then it will be fingers crossed. If it doesnít work then back to the drawing board for NBodger and he will be sad.  :(

Again my post is short this evening, and we are looking at taking the dogs to have a run on the sands and a dip in the sea at Hornsea, should be back around lunch time so hopefully get some more work done on the layout and the ten weeks on the Forum post, where I will let you see the horror side of Hillsden, the fiddle yard, the one area that has not been posted about yet, then I will probably have to quit the forum in shame.  :o

Thank you for reading I hope you return soon

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 05, 2020, 07:48:15 PM
Hillsden Day 70 (10 weeks and counting)

It is ten weeks today since I took the plunge and joined the Forum, during this time Hillsden as developed quite a lot towards its final completion, but as yet all of the items have not been installed in the town.

Well today Mrs NBodger and myself got up and had an early breakfast, loaded the car, along with two dogs, set off for the small seaside town of Hornsea, which is around 30 miles from home. This was the first outing away from our village since lockdown. The dogs were very excited for going, itís funny how they know. We frequently throughout the year makes this journey which usually cumulates with fish and chips, but not today.

Luckily it was not crowded on the beach, but pleasant and sheltered from the quite strong winds, although a gust did blow my cap off into the sea, it was ok I sent Mrs N in to recover it.  :o

We were back just before lunch with two tired dogs, two tired owners both desperate for a cup of coffee.  :sleep:

After lunch I spent around an hour in Hillsden just doing bits and pieces of the landscaping around the canal, before heading home to do a little bit of work at my workbench.

Whilst at the workbench I set too painting the signals, they have all now had a coat of matt white and await a second coat. Also, the goods yard crane base was weathered, this is now ready for planting in Hillsdens goods yard, however, the painting of the crane has still to be completed. I finally did a little more work to the oil tanks for Thornbers yard, the base and bund wall are now complete and weathered, but again, the tanks themselves require a little more work.

Mrs NBodger rather worryingly started talking about readjusting the fence and gates to our drive, in her words not mine she said to make it easier for loading Hillsden into the car. The thoughts of horror that went through my head was, she is either selling it or taking it to the tip, help have I really been that bad, has she read the Hillsden thread, am I really in trouble.  :worried:

Anyway she clarified why, must have been the look of shear fright on my face, she then stated to make it easier to take Hillsden to exhibitions, when we can all have a day out, well the thought of the dogs operating the layout, whilst Mrs N was sat knitting horrified  me. I quickly replied the layout wonít get exhibited we have got past that stage now it has been too long in the build, she then replied ďit will be exhibited ď. Well its original conception was as an exhibition layout but that was what twenty seven years ago, who wants to see it now.  :(

The way Hillsden has developed over time, it was originally only 9í long with a very small fiddle yard, and the layout was in two sections, as stock grew, the fiddle yard was doubled in width, then the layout was extended thankfully, which allowed the branch line and also the mill area development, along with this the fiddle yard was again extended, the layout now has five boards.

Unfortunately, because of the ways the fiddle yard was extended plus Nbodgers bodging joinery skills the yard is a bit of a mess and needs improving, to what extent I am not sure, to be honest minimum change the better.

The layout was set by the points I had available, being a Yorkshire man I didnít want to spend an excessive amount of money, I tried to only spend minimum amounts on the layout as with three children growing up money was spent on them and holidays and Hillsden came second best.

The control panel was also built out of materials available but is a compromise. I need to revamp the control panel anyway to accommodate the recently built slave panel for the front of the layout, so thought it would be a good time to make some minor mods to the fiddle yard.
You can see the state of the fiddle yard from the accompanying photographs, plus how tight the space is to operate and the position of the control panel, which is not easy to read in its vertical position.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-050720192122.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-050720192034.jpeg)
Picture shows the tight space for operating, good job Nbodgers lost over a stone in weight in the last six months

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-050720191855.jpeg)


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-050720192214.jpeg)
Main Control Panel



So, onto the revamp and what to do

1.   Adjust any poor track alignments, there are one or two minor level issues at board joints.
2.   Adjust the storage for the branch line to two lines from one plus isolated sectionís, plus ability to run locoís round with auto uncoupling enabled.
3.   Look at positioning generally of isolating sections, these are a bit ad hoc at present, plus make it clear for the operators where the section brakes are and annotate each siding.
4.   Make necessary wiring adjustments to control panel including for slave panel
5.   Revamp the front of the control panel with mimic panel enhanced and other labels added and track sections colour coded.
6.   Provide support frame on castors so that it can fit sloping partially under the layout when in use and fully under the layout when not in use.

Quite a bit of work, but necessary, which means trains will not be running for a little while, thatís why I am a little reluctant to start, however, will not start until I have run the new Thompsonís a few times.

What do you all think?

Anyway, this evening, back to painting signals at the end of another day

Hope you have enjoyed your visit to Hillsden

Stay safe

Mike H  8) 8)

PS thought I would add a train photograph, DMU Class 101 approaching Hillsden platform 3 with a stopping service terminating at Leeds City

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-050720192251.jpeg)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 05, 2020, 07:55:04 PM
Love the first generation dmu and the fiddle yard mike. Control panel looks good. Darren @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) maybe a good chap to answer those questions. But am glad you managed to venture out mike. It's definitely a stay at home layout
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on July 05, 2020, 08:05:43 PM
Looks good Mike.
Only you can answer the questions regarding the revamp but Iíd suggest that if you are airing the ideas then you probably will do it.

Its interesting that you had a day out. We only live 4 miles or so from the coast but havenít ventured there since lockdown. Prior to that we would generally do 2 or 3 coastal walks per week.
Since mid March we havenít really ventured out of our village (other than for daily walks) except for a weekly drive to the supermarket in Redruth and a couple of walks into Redruth from home.
With the current influx of holidaymakers to Cornwall, we will be taking things very carefully for the foreseeable future Iím afraid.
It does, of course, mean that work on my little shed layout will continue.

Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: springwood on July 05, 2020, 08:22:44 PM
Oh my goodness..there's one or two switches and buttons on that main panel!!! Is it possible to get to the back of the panel for maintenance etc?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 05, 2020, 08:38:01 PM
Oh my goodness..there's one or two switches and buttons on that main panel!!! Is it possible to get to the back of the panel for maintenance etc?

@springwood (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7301)

The front of the panel folds down to allow access to all switches on the panel and tag strips on the back face. You have to remember the layout is DC and was started some 27 years ago, with the panel around 25 years ago.

No doubt with all that is available today and DCC the layout would be much different, also quite a number of locoís are Graham Farish, Poole manufactured.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 05, 2020, 08:45:08 PM
Mike. Hope you are keeping a wiring diagram that will help trace faults etc, routes, lines, points. I did see graham @GrahamB (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=298)  used this for these reasons in southwark bridge I believe.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 05, 2020, 10:32:44 PM
Mike. Hope you are keeping a wiring diagram that will help trace faults etc, routes, lines, points. I did see graham @GrahamB (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=298)  used this for these reasons in southwark bridge I believe.

Chris,

I did have a list of which wire was which on the tag strips, unfortunately a proportion of these have disappeared, however it is quite easy to trace and reproduce the list as all switches are marked on the reverse of the panel.

So quite relaxed about it

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: impinabox on July 05, 2020, 11:57:27 PM
Hmmm... quite a control panel there.  Are those switches or lights below the control knobs?  Probably a combination of the two.  Time for you to start playig with Arduinos and Raspberries, methinks!

I was quite heartened to see how little space you have around the fiddle yard.  Makes me feel much better about having to shuffle around the edges of Halfway in my train room!  Eventually I'll get to the point where I've finished the scenery at the back and can shove it up against the wall... maybe! 
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 06, 2020, 12:06:40 AM
Mike. Hope you are keeping a wiring diagram that will help trace faults etc, routes, lines, points. I did see graham @GrahamB (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=298)  used this for these reasons in southwark bridge I believe.

Chris,

I did have a list of which wire was which on the tag strips, unfortunately a proportion of these have disappeared, however it is quite easy to trace and reproduce the list as all switches are marked on the reverse of the panel.

So quite relaxed about it

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
                                                                             
                                                                                           mike that is still impressive. Was just a thought
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on July 06, 2020, 12:07:05 AM
That is a fair size fiddle yard Mike and you have more room than  me even when I pull my layout forwards on its castors. Are you planning on changing from dc to dcc or is that too much, you would not need has many switches for a start. Impressive panel though.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: chrism on July 06, 2020, 06:41:04 AM
Mike. Hope you are keeping a wiring diagram that will help trace faults etc, routes, lines, points. I did see graham @GrahamB (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=298)  used this for these reasons in southwark bridge I believe.

Chris,

I did have a list of which wire was which on the tag strips, unfortunately a proportion of these have disappeared, however it is quite easy to trace and reproduce the list as all switches are marked on the reverse of the panel.


I have a, now, rather large excel workbook in which I record all the connector pinouts for all my multiple connectors, their wire colours and where the wires go.

This is handy for most wires but is imperative where I have some wires that leave the control panel on one cable, go into one baseboard and promptly shoot off to another baseboard via another cable because the control panel cable to the second board has no spare connector pins.

In some cases this is because I have tried to ensure that a cable cannot be plugged into the wrong place by using different pin count D-Subs (I use 9, 15, 25 and 37-way ones) and orienting the plugs/sockets so that they must go in the right way around, in other cases it's because a board requires more than 37 wires anyway.

As long as I know where the ends of the wires go any fault finding should be pretty easy.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on July 06, 2020, 08:04:30 AM
I nice control panel, Mike.

It's interesting to see the various, often quite complicated. control panels on the layouts of different forum members.  I have only two wires on the whole layout, other than all the droppers.  Its called the DCC bus.  Everything else is programmed into the controller.  So to set up a run of trains I set three routes from the operational timetable, one route for each train and then start the trains.  Most will stop in the station and then restart again.  I guess I could write a computer program to do it automatically but, actually, I quite enjoy the manual control.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 06, 2020, 09:18:58 AM
Looks good Mike.
Only you can answer the questions regarding the revamp but Iíd suggest that if you are airing the ideas then you probably will do it.

Its interesting that you had a day out. We only live 4 miles or so from the coast but havenít ventured there since lockdown. Prior to that we would generally do 2 or 3 coastal walks per week.
Since mid March we havenít really ventured out of our village (other than for daily walks) except for a weekly drive to the supermarket in Redruth and a couple of walks into Redruth from home.
With the current influx of holidaymakers to Cornwall, we will be taking things very carefully for the foreseeable future Iím afraid.
It does, of course, mean that work on my little shed layout will continue.

Cheers
Martin

Hi Martin, @port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230)

You are correct, I do intend to modify all that I have listed, the temptation is to start again, but life is too short.

I agree about going out, I am one of the many shielding at present, so are very weary and paranoid about meeting people or going out.

It is only in the last week and a half that I have ventured out, basically since an hospital appointment. Only trips have been on quiet country paths walking the dogs with my wife.

Yesterdayís visit to Hornsea was planned to avoid any crowded areas hence why we went early, parked in the free car park away from others and then whilst walking was 50m or so from anybody, so very safe.

We have not been near a single shop, all of our shopping has been on line via priority slots, and this will continue for some time to come.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: impinabox on July 06, 2020, 09:39:27 AM
I have a, now, rather large excel workbook in which I record all the connector pinouts for all my multiple connectors, their wire colours and where the wires go.

I do the same, both for connections out to the layout and for connections between boards inside the control/mimic.  I also add 3D view pictures of the various connectors with pin numbers marked as I can never remember which end of a D is pin1.  And since plug and socket pin numbers are reversed and I'm usually looking at them from the back anyway...  :confused1:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 06, 2020, 09:46:46 AM
Hmmm... quite a control panel there.  Are those switches or lights below the control knobs?  Probably a combination of the two.  Time for you to start playig with Arduinos and Raspberries, methinks!

I was quite heartened to see how little space you have around the fiddle yard.  Makes me feel much better about having to shuffle around the edges of Halfway in my train room!  Eventually I'll get to the point where I've finished the scenery at the back and can shove it up against the wall... maybe!

Hi Mike, @impinabox (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8399)

Itís all switches, toggle and push to make, no lights.

I gave up writing software years ago, so donít intend to start again now, I just want to be able to play trains and be in control of them. That will be the reward for a over long build time and build / weather more stock

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: chrism on July 06, 2020, 09:51:32 AM
s with pin numbers marked as I can never remember which end of a D is pin1.  And since plug and socket pin numbers are reversed and I'm usually looking at them from the back anyway...  :confused1:

You and me both. I have a printout showing the rear of both plug and socket connectors stored in my rack of component drawers, to which I still have to refer each time I get a new connector out.

After that it's not so bad - the very first thing I do with a new connector is to mark the Pin 1 corner. That helps - except when I forget that, say, Pin 20 is below Pins 1 & 2, NOT below Pins 18 & 19  :-[
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 06, 2020, 09:57:30 AM
That is a fair size fiddle yard Mike and you have more room than  me even when I pull my layout forwards on its castors. Are you planning on changing from dc to dcc or is that too much, you would not need has many switches for a start. Impressive panel though.

Chris @lil chris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784)

There is no way Hillsden is going DCC

If I build another smaller layout, then that would possibly be DCC, I do like DCC and have operated exhibition layouts utilising it, but I would need to spend a lot of money on Hillsden to convert and some of my locoís will be very difficult to chip.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)


Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on July 06, 2020, 10:13:18 AM
I thought not mike about dcc, I forgot to ask is the little arcade still on the front at Hornsea. I remember going there with my family years ago and playing pool with my kids and the wife and we went in the chippy for some dinner, happy times.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 06, 2020, 11:37:16 AM
I nice control panel, Mike.

It's interesting to see the various, often quite complicated. control panels on the layouts of different forum members.  I have only two wires on the whole layout, other than all the droppers.  Its called the DCC bus.  Everything else is programmed into the controller.  So to set up a run of trains I set three routes from the operational timetable, one route for each train and then start the trains.  Most will stop in the station and then restart again.  I guess I could write a computer program to do it automatically but, actually, I quite enjoy the manual control.

Thanks Laurence

I guess control panels all depend on your knowledge and availability of components at the time of build. Hillsdens is quite basic really and is a mass of wires inside.

The layout can utilise up to five controllers, two for the fiddle yard to keep it continually live and then just utilise isolation switches for the control, then one each for up, down and yard/bay.

The five rotary switches at the top, are for each section of the layout, to switch between different controllers per section, so one controller if required can run the whole layout etc.

When I start the mods, I will post a photo of the mess inside

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Milton Rail on July 06, 2020, 02:39:44 PM
I've just spent an enjoyable hour or 2 meandering through Hillsden & the updates since I last caught up .... you are fairly powering through, like what you did with the signals, I have a bunch of those kits to make up too, so it's encouraging to see your build.  Lovely work with the canal & lock gates too.

I do like the finish you get on all your buildings, roads and the like, really has a great feel to it

Look forward to seeing all those Thompsom coaches appearing on the forum layouts, I suspect they will look particularly at home on Hillsden ... going to be another 8 days before I get my hands on mine!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 06, 2020, 04:27:50 PM
I've just spent an enjoyable hour or 2 meandering through Hillsden & the updates since I last caught up .... you are fairly powering through, like what you did with the signals, I have a bunch of those kits to make up too, so it's encouraging to see your build.  Lovely work with the canal & lock gates too.

I do like the finish you get on all your buildings, roads and the like, really has a great feel to it

Look forward to seeing all those Thompsom coaches appearing on the forum layouts, I suspect they will look particularly at home on Hillsden ... going to be another 8 days before I get my hands on mine!

@Milton Rail (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4934)

Thank you for your kind words of appreciation, makes it all worthwhile.
However to spend an hour plus going through the thread, has just taken valuable time away from your own modelling, or were you waiting for something to dry.  ;D

Having said I was jealous of your anticipated delivery of the Thompsonís, I took the plunge with Mrs Nís approval, now I am looking forward to see them running on Hillsden. The first blood and custard stock ever to run on the layout, I feel a video is needed of the occasion.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 06, 2020, 04:31:43 PM
I think mike, we will all love a video. I'm glad mrs Nbodger has given her seal of approval
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Milton Rail on July 06, 2020, 05:06:49 PM
HI Mike,

My time spent wandering through Hillsden was actually time away from my day job  :uneasy: ... as followers of my thread have got used to and tolerate, my posts are all retrospective ... I work a rotation offshore and indulge all my time home in our smallholding and my layout (and other hobbies) so I am rarely on the forum during that time  .... and then once I get back offshore (can be either 4 or 5 weeks at home) I use the pics and vids as a means of coping with the time away from home and hence have a morning routine when I get to my desk at 6am of posting up another batch ....

so .... I am skivving effectively!


Cheers,
Andrew
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 06, 2020, 08:11:52 PM
Hillsden Day 71

Tonightís post is a very short one for reasons that will become apparent, just to say it has not been a good day.

Since Day 70 post I have been some of those little odd jobs on my workbench which included continuation of painting the signals, they are at present all matt white, and waiting to be attacked with black paint, followed by the colours.

Would you also believe it, I have finally started to paint and weather the signal box roof, it will soon be back permanently in place where it should belong.

I have also done some more landscaping around the canal area, it is all starting to come together nicely, albeit slowly.

As I have nothing worth showing you of recent work done, I have brought you a further photo from the layout, I am afraid to say it has the Crab in it, this time from a different angle framed by Midgley Road Bridge.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-060720200406.jpeg)

Today has been a sad day  :( in the NBodger household as our lovely ten year old Labrador Ruby, past away. She went for her biopsy this morning, unfortunately nothing could be done for her and with drugs she would only have survived a matter of a few weeks, so we decided to let her go in peace. At least she had a lovely visit yesterday to her favourite seaside.

Sorry but thatís all for today,

Stay safe

Mike H  :(
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 06, 2020, 08:18:15 PM
We all send our prayers thoughts condolences mike to you and mrs nbodger and the family. Glad you could have time with the canal scene
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on July 06, 2020, 08:26:47 PM
So sorry to hear your news Mike.
Just remember the good times you shared with Ruby and all the joy she gave to you.

Stay safe

Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on July 06, 2020, 08:56:53 PM
Sorry to hear the sad news Mike, take good care of yourself and Mrs Nbodger..

Cheers Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 06, 2020, 09:04:32 PM
Poor Ruby :'(

:heart: to you all.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on July 06, 2020, 09:32:47 PM
Sorry to hear of your loss of Ruby Mike, If I had a dog it would be a labrador. At the end of the day pets are family, I am sure she will be sadly missed.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on July 06, 2020, 10:34:59 PM
As a pet owner I know how gut wrenching that can be. I feel so sad for you and Mrs NBodger as Ruby has no doubt left a void in your lives :(
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: weave on July 07, 2020, 02:38:24 AM
Hi Mike,

Can only echo the sentiments of others. Very, very sad. You all take care now and enjoy the memories.

Chris (weave).
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: LASteve on July 07, 2020, 05:38:56 AM
Very sorry. Many hugs from me and Jill from a long way away.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on July 07, 2020, 05:54:15 AM
We too had a labrador for many years. She developed cancer and we had to have her put down as she was so sick.

Condolences.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Milton Rail on July 07, 2020, 06:20:31 AM
Morning Mike, sorry to hear the sad news about your loss, from the posts I have read, can see Ruby has been a big part of the family - we have two labs and know how loving they are

Take care and as others have said, remember the good times and all the joy she has brought
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 07, 2020, 08:16:23 AM

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Thank you for your messages and kind thoughts for the loss of Ruby, lost a friend, but life has to go on, we still have a cocker spaniel to walk and annoy Mrs N with her antics whilst she is gardening.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on July 07, 2020, 08:40:48 AM
Mike

I was very sorry indeed to read about Ruby.

My condolences.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 07, 2020, 09:37:58 AM
I thought not mike about dcc, I forgot to ask is the little arcade still on the front at Hornsea. I remember going there with my family years ago and playing pool with my kids and the wife and we went in the chippy for some dinner, happy times.

Chris, @lil chris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784)

Apologies for late reply, there is still a small arcade on the sea front at the corner by Sullivanís fish and chip shop / restaurant. Thisís whole area got flooded a few years back. We donít often go to the tourist areas but stay at the north end where they allow dogs on the beach.

Stay safe

Mike H   8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on July 07, 2020, 09:52:17 AM
No need for apologises Mike after the day you had yesterday with poor Ruby. I wish you and your wife well and like you say life in Hillsden goes on.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Hailstone on July 07, 2020, 05:29:00 PM
Sorry to hear about Ruby, my condolences yo you and Mrs Nbodger

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 07, 2020, 08:15:41 PM
Hillsden Day 72

The day started off with a pleasant morning but soon turned to continual rain in the afternoon, and as I write this it is still raining.

Well Mrs N first thing took the cocker spaniel out for a walk, well to be fair she is her dog and I am only needed when Mrs N isnít about. I usually have always fed the dogs, well today I picked up both bowls to feed two dogs and not one, I will soon get it right.  :doh:

Today I spent the whole day on railway related tasks much to my enjoyment, although Mrs NBodger did suggest I needed to clean my workbench area. So, I thought carefully before replying. The reply went a little bit like this ďI just need to finish painting the items on the bench, then I was going to clean itĒ. Well that worked, but little does Mrs N realise what there is to paint, nine signals, one good yard crane, oil tanks, two cars, one road waggon, a Gresley full break and a mk1 horse box, I am sure there is more, could take me a few weeks yet at old Nbodgers pace.  ::)

I set about doing a little bit more painting of the signals, painting those etched ladders is a pain, you think you have covered them 100% fooled by the wet paint reflecting, then when it starts to dry, you find all those little missed bits, well thatís my excuse anyway. I also weathered the base of the oil tank bunds, so a good morning.  :)

After lunch a tired Mrs N decided to have a siesta, so I went for a long walk to Hillsden and spent the afternoon there. Well what was happening in Hillsden, again the landscape contractors were getting on well with the work around the canal, sorry no photo until itís finished. Generally, I am happy with the work they have done except for the side of the embankment. You all know the statement, less is more, well that is the situation of that area at the moment, it is all more and not less, still it will get sorted, itís all about trial and error.  :hmmm:

Whilst the landscape contractors got on with the canal, I got on with my uncoupling experiments, utilising rare earth magnets and repulsion instead of attraction. I tried that magnets on a locomotive first, one that had good vertical movement in the coupling, with PECO stock this worked extremely well, but I still need to test further as this time I didnít have any power to the loco. By the way I am trying this with permanent embedded magnets, what I do know is it will work 100% with electro magnets. The one area I havenít got working successfully is sprung couplings on coaches, possibly needs a little modification to the coupling. Early days yet but looks as though NBodger is going to be happy and soon will have a satisfactory uncoupling system.  :)


Whilst rummaging in the railway rooms cupboards, I removed a part built kit locomotive, which I believe I have referred to in a earlier post.

Well what is the locomotive and what is the kit, it was bought 24 years ago.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-070720200537.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-070720200659.jpeg)

The picture is staged, the bogies to the tender are not yet permanently fitting nor is the front pony bogie. Well it is a Peppercorn A1, from Foxhunter, which is designed to fit on a Farish Poole manufactured A3 chassis, which I bought second hand.

The build is not brilliant but was my first attempt at a complicated kit, but still have for some reason probably time, I have not completed it. I know I am slow at building things but 24 years is even a long time for NBodger.  :no:

Well I gave it a run, first time in I donít know how long, possibly ten years or so, it ran very well and I was very pleased, which has inspired me to get it finished, but layout first.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-070720200750.jpeg)

Well that is all for todayís visit to Hillsden, thank you for reading hope you enjoyed your visit.

For me I am off to do some more signal painting as I have as you all know be told by Mrs N that I have to tidy up and clean my workbench area, so I need to keep the peace.  :no:

Stay safe,

Mike H  8)

PS Forgot to tell you, I got an email from Rails today and a little package is on its way, so should arrive Wednesday, no doubt you all know what it contains. So, looks like a video later this week.








Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 07, 2020, 08:21:25 PM
Sounds like a productive day mike and although I know nothing about kit built locos, she does look impressive. Plenty to keep you busy
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Hailstone on July 08, 2020, 12:30:49 AM
finishing the loco may give you a break from all that scenic work and may prove to be refreshing - I did the opposite and built the scenic break after building 4 locos and 6 wagons.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 08, 2020, 09:12:24 AM
finishing the loco may give you a break from all that scenic work and may prove to be refreshing - I did the opposite and built the scenic break after building 4 locos and 6 wagons.

Regards,

Alex

Alex @Hailstone (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1193)

Thank you for your response

I think the A1 will be one of the last things I do, I really want to get the control panels sorted along with uncoupling as a priority, then many waggon kits to build and already built ones need painting and weathering.

As I said in yesterdayís post, I need to complete all those part done jobs on the workbench, to clear space before doing anything new.

Working on the layouts scenery is only a part time at the moment, say 30 minutes a day as it is a confined area and have to wait frequently for glues to dry, so I am continually moving from one part built project to another and not getting in a rut.

Mind you at the speed I work the A1 could be sat there a long time, it wasnít until I unboxed it yesterday and had it running, that I thought that it doesnít look too bad at all, in fact I was surprised.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on July 08, 2020, 11:45:58 AM
I'd hazard a guess the package may contain some Thompson coaches?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 08, 2020, 01:04:21 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
So sorry to hear of Ruby, my heart felt condolences to your family.
   stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 08, 2020, 09:10:57 PM
Hillsden Day 73

It has been a quiet day here in Hillsden, although a dry day, it has been cool at times, then quite warm, so quite variable.

I unfortunately had a hospital appointment today, so that reduced drastically the amount of time I had to do work in Hillsden. Mrs N and myself plus one cocker spaniel ventured off to the hospital, Mrs N said we had to take the dog as she has never been left on her own before, she always had her big sister Ruby with her.

On the way home from the hospital, Mrs N started quizzing me about how much I had spent on the Thompson coaches and seemed quite shocked, she didnít think I was spending that much, well I managed to keep quiet about those little extras I added to the order, so allís good until tomorrow when they should get delivered. Now looks as though I will have to squirrel the package away when it arrives and hide those little extras.  :doh:

I did pop into Hillsden for a couple of brief visits to help with the landscaping around the canal, I wasnít too happy with the embankment, I think I have overdone the scatter, so dragged Mrs N in for a gander, the royal approval was gained but not convincingly, it was when she said ďyou know me, I like greenĒ , so still not sure. The problem I have is matching it with the cuttings done many years ago but we will see when it is finished, trees and bushes to add which will make the difference, I hope.

The problem I have with the landscaping is the use of green scene scatter, it was the only option years ago at our local model shop and have continued with it throughout the layout, however some of the greens are quite bright and dust etc. has mixed and dulled the colours on the previous work so the comparison can be quite stark. Anyway, see for yourselves I have included an update photo, the trees are not fixed yet, just added to give a final impression.  :hmmm:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-080720204517.jpeg)

When I first walked into Hillsden today, I thought we had had the high winds that had uprooted the trees on Poppingham, thankfully it was only me who had inadvertently knocked a tree onto the floor, no damage done.  :o

I can now say that I have completed painting the ladders for the signals, finished these this afternoon, so they are a step nearer completion, the signals are like a monochrome photo at the moment, black and white, soon to get the brighter colours of red and yellow, then pressed into service.  ???

I have experimented a little bit more with the uncoupling, especially with coaching stock, the issue with non PECO stock is the size of the coupling, they are thicker walled and this leaves a smaller physical  area to the inside, when two non peco  couplings are coupled together, they fit quite snug and tight, so there is not enough room for them to lift fully and separate, whereas a peco and a non peco coupling is ok, similarly two peco couplings. I could of course set too and file the couplings to make more room, this seems a bit of a pain, also a lot of stock would need further mods to allow the coupler to lift to its full extent, as they tend to be restricted by the coach end.

Thinking further about this and what my aim is for uncoupling I at the moment have decided the following.

1.   all goods trains for shunting shall be entirely of Peco wagons, they will work with no problems.
2.   I also wish to run a local hauled train into the bay platform, only two coaches long, so if I add a Peco van between the loco and the first carriage, this will allow uncoupling to take place and run around to couple at the other end for departure.

This all seems a suitable compromise, but I just need to fully test my theory prior to implementing it, any further area can be developed over time if required, but at least I believe I can achieve satisfactorily these minimum operational requirements. The whole system will be utilising permanent magnets.  ::)

As I have not got much news, I thought I would post you a train picture, today we have the Ivatt 2MT on a local train, awaiting passage to the main line from the branch line whilst Sulzer Class 24 passes on the main line. The Class 24 is still bereft of its disc code, I must get them sorted. Also the scene will look a lot better with the appropriate signals in place, possibly do a rerun when the signals are installed for a comparison.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-080720204627.jpeg)


Well thatís all for this evening hope I havenít bored you too much with my ramblings and thank you for your time, I hope you enjoyed your visit today.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Hailstone on July 08, 2020, 11:21:18 PM
In the course of installing the Gaugemaster uncoupling system on Tremierten, I discovered that as it was the system would work with all types of Arnold style coupling with a few exeptions. these are:

1. the early Farish coupling with the plastic U providing the spring action - don't bother as you cannot fit a fret to it.

2. some of the latest wagons i.e. the GW Toad brake van have a draw hook that limits the upward travel of the coupling - I removed the hook.

3. on a lot of coaches, the upward travel of the coupling can only be made effective enough if a little judicious filing of the coupling is undertaken.

4. most loco couplings lack enough travel to be useful for remote uncoupling - rely instead on the coaches/wagons.

all this has been found out while I was getting Tremierten ready to face the public for the first time, and those members of my club who have operated it have been quite impressed with the relative reliability of it

Regards,

Alex     
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: chrism on July 09, 2020, 07:02:41 AM
I have experimented a little bit more with the uncoupling, especially with coaching stock, the issue with non PECO stock is the size of the coupling, they are thicker walled and this leaves a smaller physical  area to the inside, when two non peco  couplings are coupled together, they fit quite snug and tight, so there is not enough room for them to lift fully and separate, whereas a peco and a non peco coupling is ok, similarly two peco couplings. I could of course set too and file the couplings to make more room, this seems a bit of a pain, also a lot of stock would need further mods to allow the coupler to lift to its full extent, as they tend to be restricted by the coach end.

Thinking further about this and what my aim is for uncoupling I at the moment have decided the following.

1.   all goods trains for shunting shall be entirely of Peco wagons, they will work with no problems.
2.   I also wish to run a local hauled train into the bay platform, only two coaches long, so if I add a Peco van between the loco and the first carriage, this will allow uncoupling to take place and run around to couple at the other end for departure.

Hi Mike.

Assuming that you're still intending to use magnets glued to the couplings, I agree with you, the Peco Elsie couplings work great with magnets, although I'm only using them with electromagnets not fixed ones.

The Farish ones are variable, depending on whether there's enough weight to stop a strong enough magnet to lift the coupling from also lifting the wagon. Other brands often have a steel keeper plate to hold the coupling in which messes up the magnetic field.

I haven't tried any coaches, because I'm running them in set rakes with uncoupling magnets on the locos instead. However, since some of them are a pain to uncouple manually I don't think I'd succeed in getting magnets working.

I've got most of my locos sorted so that they can uncouple for the movements I intend. Some are very good (eg the latest Farish Jinty and the Peco Jubilees), whilst some are poor or very difficult. Some need a bit more work, eg my Farish Ivatt 2MT mogul is impossible on the front because the pony truck is too light and a magnet just flicks it off the rails and iffy on the tender, however I think that it's just clearances stopping the coupling lifting sufficiently - either the drawhook or the bottom edge of the buffer beam I think, I'll investigate more some time.

Rather surprisingly, having decided to only do one end of any wagons to avoid the problem of two magnet-fitted couplings failing to either couple or uncouple as I'd found in my experiments, I have accidentally sent a magnet equipped loco to couple with a magnet-equipped wagon and they both coupled and uncoupled OK. Maybe the problem was when trying to couple two wagons that way. More playing testing will confirm one way or the other.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 09, 2020, 07:06:32 AM
Talking about troublesome trucks. I was thinking tackywax but chrism has just summed up neatly as has alex my thoughts
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 09, 2020, 10:16:57 AM
Good Morning Alex @Hailstone (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1193) and Chris @chrism (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7182)

Thank you both for your responses.
I realise Alex that you have got the ex seep frets working to your satisfaction and this may be another route.

The problem I find is not the individual movement of the coupling but how tight some stock couples which Chris seems to have discovered, these are the items that are very difficult to separate by hand.

There is a lot more free play with the Peco coupling, not only in lift, but also horizontal play. I have noticed if you look at coupled vehicles from above on some especially coaches their is very limited horizontal movement due to little space around the coupling, whereas with Peco they appear to be a fraction smaller which gives plenty of horizontal movement.

It is my intention to go through all of my stock and see in the first instance which work without any modifications, which hopefully I will find enough stock for my intentions without resorting to modifications.

This will take a little while, probably over the next few weeks, I need to remove all stock for the planned fiddle yard changes, so will take the opportunity then.

I have found to-date that magnets on the couplings as per Chrisís stock works well, at least to the standard of using frets, if not better. In my case I have embedded permanent magnets within the track.

It is the intention to only have magnets to one end of a item of stock and hopefully tension will hold the couplings together when running over the embedded magnet, to-date this has worked in my trials.

Obviously a long way to go and I need to be sure it works consistently before installing on Hillsden.

It is a shame that there appears to be a difference in the standard Arnold style coupling between manufacturers and possibly age of stock.

Luckily on Hillsden it is only a small amount of stock I would like to use the system on, as majority, like Chris will be run in fixed rates.

Again thank you for your input very much appreciated, I will keep you updated with progress and hopefully come to a viable solution.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on July 09, 2020, 12:17:13 PM
Now looks as though I will have to squirrel the package away when it arrives and hide those little extras.

I thought 'squirrelling' was a pre-requisite for being a member.  ???

The greenery looks okay to me.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on July 09, 2020, 12:46:17 PM

The greenery looks okay to me.

I'm with Mike in thinking it's a little bright at present
 :sorrysign:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on July 09, 2020, 12:56:27 PM

The greenery looks okay to me.

I'm with Mike in thinking it's a little bright at present
 :sorrysign:

Nobody said I had to take my sunglasses off!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 09, 2020, 08:11:42 PM
Hillsden Day 74

It has been a very quiet day in Hillsden, a little rain in the morning plus the odd light shower during the day but reasonably warm.

I am afraid I was thwarted again by Mrs N and had to dog sit for the first part of the morning, luckily there was a knock at the door, it was the postman with a package for me. Well, the package was quite large, certainly too big for the Thompson coaches, unless I had inadvertently ordered a shed full, and the packaging was a bit tatty for Rails. Then I remembered it was the helping hands and magnifier I had bought with the voucher my daughter had given me, and there was one or two extras also that I had to quickly squirrel away, which I have done successfully, so no awkward questions this morning.  ::)

Next, I took the cocker spaniel for her walk, and for the first time since lockdown I did the three mile circuit via the River Humber, a walk I did everyday with the dogs prior to lockdown, really felt the benefit of the long walk.  :doh:

My eldest son also visited us today to help Mrs N with the gardening trimming bushes, removed a deceased bush and other little jobs, looks like they made a job for me tomorrow, tidying up, as half the cuttings are strewn across my lawn. To be fair the garden waste bin was full and tomorrow is the council’s day for emptying.

Well after all this excitement I did get to do a little work on Hillsden, however majority of it was sat at my workbench in the house.

I thought I would try and clear the backlog of painting various items, so that ultimately I could tidy up my working area, there was a reason for this, not the complaints yesterday from Mrs N, but the package that arrived to day I need to make a space for the contents, so that I can start to use it.  ::)

First, I attacked the signals painting the lights and areas of black to the signal arms, after six of them I put them to one side to rest my eyes, before I made a complete mess. Next, I continued to paint the yard crane, this is now at a stage of requiring weathering before installation in Hillsden.

Finally, I finished painting the oil tanks, again these require weathering, so hopefully in the next few days these items will be ready to be “plonked” in Hillsden.

Late afternoon I finally visited Hillsden and had a few words with the landscape contractors, about the colour of the grass, they have now started to rectify the situation to the embankment with further work expected along the canal. They also top soiled a previously untouched area to the towpath side of the canal, this is the area which goes through the third arch of the viaduct, they left at five, so hopefully they will be back tomorrow to undertake more work. This area is taking a lot longer than anticipated to finish, but it is what it is.

Another photo from Hillsden

Today we have Class 04 Shunter, marshalling box vans from the goods yard to the holding bay ready for departure later in the day.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-090720194918.jpeg)

Last night I suddenly realised that on Tuesday evening in normal circumstances would have been in the upper tier of the Emerald Stand at Headingley behind the bowler’s arm watching England beat Australia in the IT20.  ;)

As my parcel from Rails didn’t arrive today, here’s hoping for the morning, but knowing our post it could be afternoon, but please get them here before the weekend.  :)

Well, that’s all for this evening, nothing exciting to write about, however, hope you enjoyed tonight’s visit.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)



Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 09, 2020, 08:18:07 PM
Mike. Hope that the acquired tools and magnifier helping hands help. Hope you can find some time too for a achieving finishing jobs that hillsden would love finished
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on July 09, 2020, 08:21:09 PM
Thatís a smashing photograph Mike.
Is it an 04 though?
I have one and am always confused as to whether itís 03 or 04.

Stay safe

Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 09, 2020, 08:28:53 PM
Thatís a smashing photograph Mike.
Is it an 04 though?
I have one and am always confused as to whether itís 03 or 04.

Stay safe

Martin
                                                                           
                                                                                           looks like an 04 theres a photo
   https://images.app.goo.gl/L4aWnQSMtFZjXum5A (https://images.app.goo.gl/L4aWnQSMtFZjXum5A)    due the chimney shape   maybe a clue https://www.hattons.co.uk/18063/graham_farish_371_050_class_04_shunter_d2280_in_br_green_with_wasp_stripes/stockdetail.aspx (https://www.hattons.co.uk/18063/graham_farish_371_050_class_04_shunter_d2280_in_br_green_with_wasp_stripes/stockdetail.aspx)    compared to the 03     https://railsofsheffield.com/products/26714/graham-farish-371-063-n-gauge-class-03-d2383-br-green-wasp-stripes-weathered-diesel-shunter (https://railsofsheffield.com/products/26714/graham-farish-371-063-n-gauge-class-03-d2383-br-green-wasp-stripes-weathered-diesel-shunter)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 09, 2020, 08:34:33 PM

Thanks gents, you are correct, my mistake, I originally wrote 04 and changed it to 03, who brought out TOPS, much rather refer to it as a Drewery shunter. I have also corrected my original post.

Again thank you

Stay safe

Mike H   :-[
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 09, 2020, 08:38:13 PM
Just a few notes on the differences https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/uk.railway/OEHx8cxNK2w   but mike to safe nitpicking she is a fine loco with the right stock shunting
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 10, 2020, 09:28:54 AM
Thatís a smashing photograph Mike.
Is it an 04 though?
I have one and am always confused as to whether itís 03 or 04.

Stay safe

Martin

Martin, @port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230)

Thank you for your appreciation of the photograph, I took around a dozen from different angles at the time, that one being the last one taken. Itís not easy to get some shots on Hillsden because some stupid idiot built things in the way.

TOPS classification is a nightmare, I much prefer to use the old names I knew from my spotting days, like Drewery, Peaks, Deltics, Brush Type 2 and 4, Westerns, warships to name a few.

Happy days

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 10, 2020, 09:41:30 AM
Still, she looks at home happily shunting does drewery 04. Look forward to more
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on July 10, 2020, 10:01:54 AM

TOPS classification is a nightmare, I much prefer to use the old names I knew from my spotting days, like Drewery, Peaks, Deltics, Brush Type 2 and 4, Westerns, warships to name a few.


Many of us model a similar era to you, Mike (i.e. pre TOPS) so I tend to stick 2 fingers up at TOPS even if only to ensure I remember the 'correct' designation of locos :)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on July 10, 2020, 10:25:41 AM
 :thumbsup:

Though I can identify locos as a Class 44 or whatever, rather than a Brush Type 4 diesel or whatever  ;D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 10, 2020, 10:32:28 AM
Be honest , i think we come from different generations, acceptable, we saw our favourite locos, stock , diffetentvregions, eras, liveries. I accept some saw what they saw be it a Deltic, Type 4, 40, or a shunter. It's just TOPS  was just a way of keeping computer records and identifying an engine, locomotive. Honestly, mike you have a fine collection and we look forward to your daily journey round hillsden
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on July 10, 2020, 12:57:05 PM
The Pre-TOPS era rather pased me by.  When I was in my first real flus of railway mania, it was all steam apart from the Deltic, 10001/2, 10201/2/3 early DMUs and diesel shunters.  By the time I returned to railway enthusiasm, TOPS was in full swing, so I always knew everything by its TOPS classification.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 10, 2020, 08:50:52 PM
Hillsden Day 75

Had many plans for today but as usual for NBodger, the day didnít go to plan.  :(

Itís been a bit of an odd day weather wise, showers, some very heavy at times, but generally warm. If you remember from yesterday, Mrs N and our eldest son had been gardening and had left a lot of cuttings to dispose of, so whilst Mrs N took the cocker spaniel for a walk, NBodger set to work clearing the garden, however didnít complete the job, leaving some for tomorrow.

Also, I was waiting for the post to arrive, and waiting, so I went back to the workbench and started a little clearing, only a little mind, enough to fit the helping hands and magnifier. Well was it a wise move to buy them.

So, I sat down to do a little more painting on the signals, actually got out the red and yellow paints, nearly finished then, err no. What looked to the naked eye as a very good paint job thus far, well, under the magnifying glass it showed how bad my painting was, so a little way to go yet.  :'(

Anyway, it was very strange at first using the magnifier, judging the distance between the paint brush and the object was particularly difficult at first, but soon got used to it and gave the signal faces a first pass. These will need another coat, and touch up to various areas that have been missed. Am I glad I made the purchase then the answer has to be yes, however, may need to revisit everything I have painted thus far.  :doh:

Well lunch time, still no postman, starting to get a bit agitated.  :veryangry:

After lunch Mrs N decided she was tired and disappeared for a siesta, and left me with the cocker spaniel, so I settled down to watch a little cricket, which I have missed this summer, both watching England, Yorkshire and my youngest son playing. I had plans to go to a lot of games this season with quite a few county matches at Scarborough. I am a qualified level 2 coach and this was one of the reasons Hillsden has not been completed, 10 years plus coaching kids.

Anyway, I left the dog and disappeared to Hillsden, she soon started barking and crying so I returned before she woke up Mrs N, then my life wouldnít be worth living, again settled down to watch more cricket.

The cocker has never been on her own and has had Ruby for company, but she is now starting to fret a bit, following either Mrs N or myself around and being generally fussy.

After a time and still no post, by now it was going up to 4:00pm, when there was a knock at the door, it was the postman with a long awaited parcel, unfortunately the dog barking and post man knocking woke up Mrs N. I quickly took the parcel, and a pair of scissors and opened the parcel, removing the items Mrs N didnít know I had bought and squirrelled them away in Hillsden along with the itemised receipt, before Mrs N surfaced downstairs, phew, got away with it.  :thumbsup:

When Mrs N made it downstairs I went out to Hillsden, first replacing the newly painted and weathered signal box roof, which is now glued in place, so NBodger had better be careful now.

I slowly unwrapped the remaining items to reveal four new blood and custard Thompson coaches, on first inspection, NBodger was a little worried, the coupling appeared to be set a fair way back and was concerned that they wouldnít go around the tight bends in the fiddle yard, but they do. They are reasonably close coupled and look good, but would look strange with some old Poole manufactured stock in the same rake.  :)

Whilst in Hillsden I drilled a few holes in the pavement and installed all but five lighting columns along the street of Hillsden. What a difference they have made to the scene. See photo below, as yet they are still not permanently fixed in position, but I am very pleased with the visual look they have given. Maybe install the station lights and signboards next, then that will make a big difference to the station area.  :)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-100720203558.jpeg)

Burnley Road showing new street lighting columns

It was my intention to video the Thompson coaches on the layout, but due to the postman being very late, I have not had time to do one yet, hopefully over the weekend, watch this thread. I must admit I am very pleased with the new acquisition to my fleet, the first blood and custard, all the other coaches being maroon except one blue and grey. Seeing the blood and custard on Hillsden it has certainly changed my thoughts on the period modelled and need to make it 1950 to 1967 and get more blood and custard coaches, to NBodger they really look right in Hillsden.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-100720202933.jpeg)

Black 5 with Thompson coaches crossing viaduct and approaching platform two

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-100720203036.jpeg)

View from the rear

Well that all for this evening, as usual I hope you have enjoyed your visit to Hillsden.

Stay safe

Mike H.  8)

PS you may have noticed that I have had a day off from landscaping works.

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 10, 2020, 08:56:45 PM
Loving the daily information mike. I'm glad you could attempt and complete other tasks
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on July 10, 2020, 09:04:17 PM
lighting columns along the street of Hillsden. What a difference they have made to the scene.

Yes, it's the little details that bring a layout to life Mike. Looking good.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on July 10, 2020, 09:27:45 PM
Looks good Mike the Black five and the blood and custard coaches. I like my Deltic which came with two blood and custard coaches so I ended up getting some more to make a decent length train. Sometimes I wonder if I should change my layout to a heritage layout so I can just run anything.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on July 10, 2020, 10:38:22 PM
I should change my layout to a heritage layout so I can just run anything.

That makes sense.  ;)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 11, 2020, 12:21:13 AM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:
  All looking superb Mike, you must be well pleased
I should change my layout to a heritage layout so I can just run anything.

That would be rule one Chris  :D
    stay safe regards Derek.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on July 11, 2020, 07:29:57 AM
Looks good Mike the Black five and the blood and custard coaches.
I totally agree.  :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 11, 2020, 09:41:06 AM

  All looking superb Mike, you must be well pleased

Thanks Derek for you kind compliment, I am very pleased how the layout is coming together, after all these years.

Stay safe
Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: impinabox on July 11, 2020, 01:17:54 PM
Wow - I've not seen this thread for a week and missed such a lot... signals and signal box, kit loco, coaches.  And so sorry to read about Ruby... but what's the name of "the cocker spaniel"?  It makes it look like you have 'issues' there when you just say 'took "the cocker spaniel" for walk'!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 11, 2020, 03:41:24 PM
And so sorry to read about Ruby... but what's the name of "the cocker spaniel"?  It makes it look like you have 'issues' there when you just say 'took "the cocker spaniel" for walk'!

Mike,

The cocker is called Flo, I had nothing to do with the name. She is very intelligent has Mrs N trained and at times was not kind to Ruby, have you heard of cocker rage, well when she is tired, she had been known to hang off Rubyís neck and generally go for her. Ruby was so placid and didnít bat an eye.

Now Ruby has gone, Flo is fretting and is following Mrs N and myself everywhere, she has never been left on her own.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 11, 2020, 08:38:14 PM
Hillsden Day 76

Well at least it has been a rather pleasant dry day today, much better than the last couple of days, so Nbodgers first job of the day after breakfast was to continue in the garden. I had to finish clearing the debris Mrs Nbodger and eldest son had left on Thursday, didnít take too long, this was followed by cutting both the front and rear lawns and unusually for me I edged them, so the gardens are again looking very tidy, Mrs N is pleased anyway.  :angel:

Yesterday there seemed to be so many of you on the Forum having running sessions, so I thought old Nbodger would have a break from modelling and have a running session, those new Thompson coaches had not yet been run and I had promised a video.  :doh:

So, after lunch I disappeared into Hillsden for around two and half hours having fun, after first cleaning the track.

As usual when videoing, things go wrong, troublesome trucks play up, the operator leaves the points the wrong way and sections isolated when they should be live, all the normal Nbodger Large Chicken :) ups whilst videoing, this does not happen during a normal running session, so Nbodger gets frustrated and utters some expletives,  :censored: now you all know why I add music to the video.

It is now eight oíclock as I write this and I have just finished uploading the videoís after editing, some seven hours after I started the running session, less say an hour for tea, I thought Saturday was a rest day.  :o

Well in the end I converted the footage into two videosí, one for tonight and another for Sunday as I donít think I will have a lot of spare time on Sunday due to other commitments.

Tonightís epic movie it of a Fairburn Tank locomotive hauling the new Farish Thompson coaches in blood and custard, plus Dapolís maroon Gresleys.

Hope you enjoy the short video of around three and a half minutes long



Unfortunately, that is all for this evening, apologies for the short post, I hope you enjoyed the video and come back soon to visit old Nbodger in Hillsden

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on July 11, 2020, 08:42:38 PM
Thank you for that excellent little video Mike.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 11, 2020, 08:48:55 PM
A fine set of coaches. Behind a fine loco. I'm impressed with the grey skies settings real feel to the Yorkshire mill town setting and a pleasant video.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on July 11, 2020, 09:21:54 PM
Some nice footage Mike.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 11, 2020, 09:35:56 PM
Donít apologise for a short post if itís got a video in it! :no:

That was excellent :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on July 11, 2020, 09:45:49 PM
Thank you for that excellent little video Mike.

Seconded!

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on July 11, 2020, 10:28:04 PM
Nice video Mike short and sweet.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on July 11, 2020, 10:37:14 PM
Most enjoyable. I look forward to part deux tomorrow.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Andy-S on July 11, 2020, 10:42:54 PM
Really enjoyed watching the video, looking great.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on July 12, 2020, 06:40:42 AM
Thank you for that excellent little video Mike.
Seconded!
Thirded
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: LASteve on July 12, 2020, 07:00:14 AM
Fourthed. I suppose that means eight thumbs up? Great clip, Mike, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 12, 2020, 07:06:58 AM
Maybe just needs the A3 or an A1 loco at the head of the train. I did like the Drewery early on with a van train. Still superb and attracting positive attention.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 12, 2020, 09:06:03 AM
Wow!
Thank you all for your positive replies to yesterdayís video, very much appreciated. Fortunately I found some new places in Hillsden to video from, which I thought made some great shots, which along with your comments has given me a idea for a future video.

I hope you are not expecting the same viewing experience tonight, as the next video, is not as good as it was filmed early in yesterdayís session and caused me quite a few problems.

Again thank you for your appreciation

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 12, 2020, 09:11:55 AM
Mike. It is always nice to have photographs and videos of different angles which show the modellers, in your case, hard work
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 12, 2020, 12:01:44 PM
 :hellosign:
   Many thanks Mike, a superb video, thanks for sharing  :thumbsup:
   stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 12, 2020, 07:53:19 PM
Hillsden Day 77 (Eleven Weeks and Counting)

It is eleven weeks today since my first post and what surprises me is you are all still reading them, or are you like me, just look at the pictures.  :D

Well, it has been a warm and sunny today and guess what, I have done no railway modelling again, thatís two consecutive days, any more and I will be getting withdrawal symptoms.

Today has been different as Mrs N and I ventured out to Cottingham to see our Granddaughter for the first time since lockdown, however, we have had video calls with her. Oh yes, we also saw our daughter and son in law. At least the visit put a smile back on Mrs N, it is our Granddaughter Aliceís third birthday later this month.  ::)

Again, thank you for your kind comments for yesterdayís video, very much appreciated.  :thankyousign:

On Friday I commented in my post about the reasonably close coupling of the new Farish Thompson coaches compared to the mk1ís which is quite noticeable. Last nightís video had them running with Dapolís Gresleyís, the gaps between them when coupled are very similar, hence do not look out of place. I need to look at changing the couplings on the Mk1ís unfortunately I donít have any with NEM pockets, so it will be a painful task and will remain on the list to do, for a long, long time.

Anyway, as promised another video, this was filmed during the same running session as yesterday, but however was done first, where troublesome trucks caused problems, along with other faults. Why is it that when camera is on, everything plays up, where on a normal session everything behaves?

Tonightís video features an A4 on the Pullman, Crab on express passenger, Class 101 DMU, Drewery Shunter, Standard 4MT tank on goods and WD on coal empties and is a little over 7 minutes long.

Hope you enjoy tonightís second premier of the weekend




Well thatís it for today, a short and early post as we have a family quiz this evening via zoom along with a couple of lemonades, so probably not able to type later.

Hope you have enjoyed your visit to Hillsden and that you return soon

Stay safe

Mike H  8)



Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 12, 2020, 08:00:57 PM
That's a pleasant evening video with a super range of stock.  Hope one manages to sort the couplings issue with the mk 1 coaches
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 13, 2020, 09:59:06 AM
Yesterday evening Mrs Nbodger decided she wanted to watch the Hillsden videoís I had uploaded over the weekend. She said those new Thompson Coaches look nice, you should get some more.

Well I sincerely hope it wasnít the bottle of wine talking  :hmmm:

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on July 13, 2020, 10:07:14 AM
Yesterday evening Mrs Nbodger decided she wanted to watch the Hillsden videoís I had uploaded over the weekend. She said those new Thompson Coaches look nice, you should get some more.

Well I sincerely hope it wasnít the bottle of wine talking  :hmmm:

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

 :laughabovepost: Well if I was you the debit card would be already out. Whether it was the wine or not, financial approval is the same in any language  :thumbsup:

Go for it Mike ..

Cheers Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on July 13, 2020, 10:32:24 AM
you should get some more.


When they arrive, can you prove that Mrs Nbodger gave you permission?  ;)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 13, 2020, 10:36:08 AM
Yesterday evening Mrs Nbodger decided she wanted to watch the Hillsden videoís I had uploaded over the weekend. She said those new Thompson Coaches look nice, you should get some more.

And a set for your best mate Steve? :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 13, 2020, 10:43:55 AM
you should get some more.


When they arrive, can you prove that Mrs Nbodger gave you permission?  ;)

@dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209)
Oh yes, I have to tape all our conversations out of necessity

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on July 13, 2020, 10:44:21 AM
you should get some more.


When they arrive, can you prove that Mrs Nbodger gave you permission?  ;)

Echoes my thoughts. Do you have it in writing, Mike? Budgie smuggling is one thing but a rake of coaches??

Edit - recordings can be erased by the unscrupulous
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 13, 2020, 09:28:10 PM
Hillsden Day 78

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-130720210545.jpeg)

Today I am very tired after a busy weekend, videoing, gardening, visiting granddaughter and the lemonade I drank with the quiz yesterday evening, yes, all self-inflicted. So, I have had an easy day to day or so I thought.  :sleep:

I was up early this morning as I had foolishly after a couple of lemonades, offered to take the cocker spaniel for her early morning walk along the river, so Mrs N could have a lie in. Not getting home until well after nine, as various people wanted to stop and have a chat as they hadnít seen me since lockdown began, obviously whilst being socially distanced.   :doh:

Later in the morning, after taking breakfast in bed for Mrs N, I set about trying to finish painting the signals, but after ten minutes I gave up as my left hand was giving me trouble and misbehaving, unable to hold anything still, whilst I painted, gave up annoyed and frustrated.  >:(

After lunch I did a bit of clearing up in the garden, then decided to spend a little time visiting Hillsden, only undertaking small tasks at a time, and basically spent a couple of hours working on the layout for ten minutes then resting for ten, didnít need my left hand for the tasks involved, thankfully.

Later in the day I had a zoom video conference with members of the North Lincolnshire Area Group, basically discussing how and when we could start meeting again, the general feeling is if no second wave then possibly start from September but in a controlled environment, but still early days.

Well, what did NBodger get done in Hillsden, today he had again a change from landscaping and joined the orange army working at the station. Well, today the station received its name boardís and lighting (may be not like @LASteve (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6889)  has been installing, but PD Marsh white metals ones.

The lights were purchased and painted some twelve months ago, along with scratch building the name boards, until now it was not safe to place them on the layout.  ???

Whilst installing the sign boards, clumsy NBodger nearly demolished one of the road lighting columns on Midgley Road, I can see a cameo scene coming soon with a bent lamp post and a car, plus maybe the emergency services in attendance.  :censored:

At present none of these items have been fixed in place, as NBodger needs to have a good think of whether to fix the lights or not, or possibly only some of them. You may wonder why he has not fixed them; the reason is quite simple it is to do with videoing. Saturdayís video had some footage of the train passing the camera a close quarter, to Nbodger these were some of the best footage, these were all filmed by sitting the camera on the station platform, something that cannot be done with the lighting in place. It may be that a few of them will be left unfixed, but we will see, after all there may be another solution to the problem.  :confused1:

In answer to the post earlier NBodger has not ordered any more coaches yet, but who knows, what this space as they say. I certainly wouldnít mind some blood and custard Mk1ís.

Anyway, tonightís photo shows A4 Silver Fox arriving in platform three with the new lighting and signboards evident. Itís Sodís law but on Saturday when videoing the A4 was playing up, that is why in last nightís video, it was running at speed, tonight it ran perfectly at all speeds.

Please note when fixed in place the station nameboards will be a little higher

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-130720210730.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-130720210823.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-130720211139.jpeg)

Well thatís it for this evening, posts are getting shorter and possibly due to only small areas requiring detailing, the posts may become less frequent.

Hope you have enjoyed your visit to Hillsden and will soon join NBodger again

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 13, 2020, 09:39:14 PM
Superb photos of the A4 mike. Hope you can find the energy to fix the items and station boards, lights. If one day we can be of help let us know
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: LASteve on July 13, 2020, 09:55:59 PM
Great stuff there, Mike. Not sure if I've commented on the platform paving before, but it looks excellent.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on July 14, 2020, 07:25:14 AM
Excellent photographs again Mike, particularly that last one with the A4 at the end of the platform and the over bridge and background just nicely blurred.
Great stuff.

Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 14, 2020, 09:30:48 AM
Great stuff there, Mike. Not sure if I've commented on the platform paving before, but it looks excellent.

Steve, @LASteve (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6889) thank you for your kind comments, much appreciated.

The platform paving is plain 40th plastikard, marked out and scored with a nearly blunt blade and finally individual paving slabs painted with various shades of grey.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 14, 2020, 09:47:03 AM
@port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230) and @crewearpley40 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3894)

Gents,

I am very happy you enjoyed the photographs. Like Martin my favourite is the last one taken from the track bed. As I posted four photos because I couldnít chose, they were uploaded at a lower resolution, so are not as sharp as the originals, unfortunately this has lost the clarity of the station name and also the loco name and number. They would have looked better at a higher quality.

For photoís on the Forum I have the camera set to a lower quality and then reduce further when editing, this is to cut down on the size, at full quality each photo would be a large file of the order of 8 MB in lieu of the posted 50kb size

Again thank you for your kind comments

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 14, 2020, 09:51:40 AM
Mike they are good shots to me. I just have to zoom in and look hard
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 14, 2020, 08:55:12 PM
Hillsden Day 79

Had many plans for today, however, Mrs Nbodger had other ideas, so very little modelling took place, this rate of little railway activity seems to have become the new norm, which joking apart is a topical term at the moment.  :doh:

It has been warm and dry today, I was going to cut the lawn again, but decided against it, our eldest son the gardener is here tomorrow, so I will probably do it then, weather permitting.

On Mrs Nís return from walking the dog Flo she decided that old NBodger should be tidying up his workbench and workspace as the dust was getting quite thick, well I think it was the dust not NBodger that was thick.

So, as I usually do what I am told, I slipped upstairs to my workbench, well I am not the tidiest but I know where everything is, it resembles what my office was like when I worked and thatís six years ago.

Anyway, on the workbench was many incomplete projects, majority of which was waiting for the painting thereof to be finished, including the signals, oil tanks, yard crane and a couple of rolling stock kits. I didnít want to keep moving all these delicate items around so the yard crane, partially painted was plonked on the layout, the Gresley break, painting nearly completed had its bogies reassembled and put into temporary working service, Mk1 horsebox kit which only needs the decals adding was also pressed into service. Slowly I tidied up, still a little bit to do as I type this, but I must admit it could inspire me to get a move on and get things finished.

After lunch Mrs N and myself decided we should have a break as we are starting to venture out more and go for a walk, so we went off in the car plus dog and headed the seven miles to Hessle, parked up by the Rugby and Cricket club and headed for the bank of the Humber, walked westward to the Country Park, inspecting the new flood defense works under construction on Hessle foreshore. We spent around one and a half hours walking around before setting off own in the car.  ;)

Looks like there will be more of these little trips as time goes on to distract NBodger from Hillsden, his days of modelling are getting limited, even much worse apparently come September after we have been on holiday (if we go) NBodger will be decorating the. main bedroom, lounge, hall, staircase and landing, crikey I could be selling Hillsden to pay for it, oh new carpets were mentioned, amazing I buy four Thompson coaches and it costs me this.  :no:

On return I did venture out to Hillsden, did a small amount of landscaping, including making a start on the gardens to the terraced houses on Sunnybank. I also indulged in running a couple of trains the excuse being to check the Gresley Full Break and Horsebox ran ok, which they did except the horsebox kept uncoupling over the board joints in the fiddle yard, well thatís an easy one to fix, it is the track heights that need correcting which is part of the fiddle yard revamp.  ::)

I did also experiment with positioning the camera in different locations, see below how I got on.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/8543-140720204058.jpeg)

View towards station from under Midgley Road Bridge, Brush Type 2 waiting to depart from platform 2.

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Close up of Brush Type 2 awaiting to depart from platform 2, again taken from under Midgley Road Bridge

I have also been giving consideration to the illumination of the layout, I will report later on my plans, but part of the support structure is already integrated with the layout support frame.

Well thatís it for another day, maybe tomorrow I might make some progress on Hillsden, but we will have to wait and see. Hope you have enjoyed todayís visit and look forward to you visiting again

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 14, 2020, 08:58:22 PM
Love the drivers eye view mike. Hope that you can gain some modelling    time
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on July 14, 2020, 09:05:29 PM
Bodger will be decorating the. main bedroom, lounge, hall, staircase and landing, crikey I could be selling Hillsden to pay for it, oh new carpets were mentioned, amazing I buy four Thompson coaches and it costs me this.  :no:


I refer my learned friend to reply #636. Now you know why Mrs Nbodger suggested you get some more carriages!  ;D. (The female of the species can be very cunning!  ;)).
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 14, 2020, 10:09:02 PM
Bodger will be decorating the. main bedroom, lounge, hall, staircase and landing, crikey I could be selling Hillsden to pay for it, oh new carpets were mentioned, amazing I buy four Thompson coaches and it costs me this.  :no:


I refer my learned friend to reply #636. Now you know why Mrs Nbodger suggested you get some more carriages!  ;D. (The female of the species can be very cunning!  ;)).

David thank you my friend for reminding me. I must get them ordered, now how many  :hmmm:

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 14, 2020, 10:11:20 PM
Another 2 or 3 and ask for  Christmas if they cannot decipher a coach type choose a shop eg rails and ask for vouchers
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on July 14, 2020, 10:15:03 PM
I must get them ordered, now how many  :hmmm:


I think one per decorated room would be fair. Think of something for the carpet later.  ;)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on July 14, 2020, 10:16:26 PM
Excellent pictures, thank you, Mike.  The close-up of the 'Baby Brush' is particularly fine.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Graham on July 15, 2020, 12:31:09 AM
excellent pictures,  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on July 15, 2020, 07:37:58 AM
You must have driven past our house or, at least, past the end of our road (unless you stayed on Clive Sullivan way as far as Sainsbury's).  Depending on the route of your return to the car, you might even have walked past our front gates.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on July 15, 2020, 07:39:18 AM
Splendid photographs once again Mike.

With all these trips out youíll be bumping into a certain other forumite before long.

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on July 15, 2020, 07:39:59 AM
Splendid photographs once again Mike.

With all these trips out youíll be bumping into a certain other forumite before long.

Ah...Laurence beat me to it  :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on July 15, 2020, 07:47:54 AM
They are very good eye level pics, Mike, and very encouraging for a bloke like me who is stuck with Code 80 track.

The trackwork looks great from that angle!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 15, 2020, 07:49:39 AM
Please can I add to that in saying impressive ballasting too
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 15, 2020, 08:36:54 AM
You must have driven past our house or, at least, past the end of our road (unless you stayed on Clive Sullivan way as far as Sainsbury's).  Depending on the route of your return to the car, you might even have walked past our front gates.

Good Morning Laurence @Innovationgame (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091)

Only drove past the end of your road, yes I have worked out where you live, you shouldnít post photos with the bridge in them plus some of your earlier photos of the railway shed. Google Earth is quite good for snooping.

We actually walked back along the river again.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 15, 2020, 09:44:49 AM
...very encouraging for a bloke like me who is stuck with Code 80 track...


George @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255)

I know Hillsden was started at around the time Code 55 came out, in fact there is a length in the fiddle yard, but still today I prefer Code 80 because of the chairs, many at the club are of the same opinion.

If the track is ballasted and painted properly the rail height is disguised to some extent, I think it was the late Andy Calvert who used to paint the ballast and track Sleeper Grime as I still do.

Some have even said that Code 80 looks the right height for the rail, compared with modern track, but thatís another discussion.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 15, 2020, 09:49:44 AM
Mike. Yes it was the late andy on moorcock junction who used those techniques
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 15, 2020, 01:03:10 PM
@port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230) @crewearpley40 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3894) @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222) and @Graham (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1058)

Again thank you for your appreciation of the photographs, it does make it all worthwhile spending the time to take them.

Again thank you

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 15, 2020, 01:26:08 PM
Your welcome mike. Look forward to developments at hillsden
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on July 15, 2020, 04:30:44 PM
Hi Mike,

That eye level view under the bridge towards the station and signal box is a stunner  :thumbsup:

Really nice photography..

Cheers Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 15, 2020, 07:56:42 PM
Hillsden Day 80

Woke up this morning to a little bit of rain, which put a little dampener on the planned gardening activities. Too wet to cut the grass and eldest son was coming round to help Mrs N clear the front garden, ready for re-turfing part of it, as it has been ruined by our dogs on a evening during lockdown. I will leave it to your imagination what the dogs had been doing.  :hmmm:

After breakfast as it had stopped raining, I took the cocker spaniel Flo for a run along the river for just over an hour and back home having walked some three miles, Flo probably ran around five miles. On the way back did get a little wet, as it had again started raining.

Back home son and Mrs N were busy at work in the garden, so I went and put the kettle on, with a plan to get on with some work on Hillsden, but it started raining heavy and Mrs N and son returned inside and I felt obliged to keep them company, well I was getting the look from Mrs N.  >:(

The rain continued an NBodger was trapped, then lunch, then still raining so they decided to call the gardening off for the day.

Earlier in the week we had had a family quiz via Zoom and had threatened eldest son, who had not had a haircut since lockdown, that if he came round on Thursday, we would cut it for him. Apparently, he left his house in Hessle telling his wife, there was no chance he was having his hair cut at his mum and dads.  :no:

Well it did happen and he left our house with one of Nbodgers bodge ups on his hair, probably wonít come back, probably wonít even leave his own house again, unless to go for a proper cut. That will teach him to stop NBodger from working on his railway.  :D

Apparently after he had left, I had a siesta for two hours, only waking up when the children next door started arguing, when they returned from school, by this time it was 4:30pm so NBodger quickly disappeared for 90 minutes to Hillsden, to finally do some work.

Whilst in Hillsden, old NBodger planted three trees and a little bit of turf laying to one of the gardens, these last landscaped areas are slowly coming together. Later this evening NBodger will try and undertake a little more painting of the signals, like he did yesterday.

Thank you all for the compliments on the photographs in yesterdayís post, it really does mean a lot to me, photography has always been a hobby of mine, but not too serious, I just like to take reasonably looking pictures, i.e. no missing heads and in focus, so since joining the forum, I have found a new lease of life for my photography and that is trying to create interesting photoís and videos of Hillsden, so thank you for your support, very much appreciated.  :thankyousign:

Well today, I havenít taken any new photos, however to give you something to look at here is another from yesterdayís shoot from rail level, enjoy.


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-150720194240.jpeg)

The Hughes Fowler Crab pulls into platform two, with a Leeds to Manchester stopping service, looks as though it needs a good dusting though

What is apparent from the photograph is that I need to fettle the station building and get them to sit better and fix them in place, another job to do.  ???

Hope you have enjoyed your visit to Nbodgerís town of Hillsden, hope you can make it again soon, we do have a regular train service from Leeds and Manchester with connecting services.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)




Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on July 15, 2020, 08:00:48 PM
Another fine shot Mike of one of my favourite classes of locomotive.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 15, 2020, 08:01:38 PM
Stunning shot mike. Just need some station benches,
  porters , luggage, passengers
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 15, 2020, 10:06:22 PM
Stunning shot mike. Just need some station benches,
  porters , luggage, passengers

Chris,

I already have the seats, just need to assemble and paint, but they are quite delicate. Another one of those time consuming little jobs to do.

Stay safe

Mike H
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 15, 2020, 11:36:54 PM
Sure enough mike. I hope you can find quality time to work uninterrupted. Look forward to the level of modelling your wishing to achieve
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 16, 2020, 03:01:29 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
  Do like the latest lineside shots Mike, top notch  :thumbsup:
   stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 16, 2020, 03:01:56 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
  Do like the latest lineside shots Mike, top notch  :thumbsup:
   stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on July 16, 2020, 04:31:38 PM
:hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
  Do like the latest lineside shots Mike, top notch  :thumbsup:
   stay safe regards Derek

So good you liked it twice  :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 16, 2020, 08:12:17 PM
Hillsden Day 81

It has been a very quiet day here in Hillsden, literally no work has taken place, although, a little more work was done on the signals yesterday evening.

NBodger has been too tired today to do any modelling, even had a two and a half hour siesta this afternoon, whilst supposedly watching the test match. He had however taken the dog for her walk in the morning, followed by cutting the grass, which definitely grows quicker than my hair.  :sleep:

The afternoon we had a visit from our daughter and granddaughter, which made Mrs N very happy. Meanwhile our eldest son delivered two bottles of wine from our youngest son, who is at university, there was originally half a dozen bottles, but apparently our son and his housemates drank the others, good job we hadnít paid for them.  :no:

Then basically slept until around tea time.  :sleep:

Well has I have done very little it is a very short update, but I did manage after tea to take a couple of photographs for your indulgence, well in fact I took a lot more of the same set up from different angles, no doubt these will feature at some stage in future posts.  :camera:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-160720195422.jpeg)

General elevated view across Hillsden Station with A4 approaching platform 3 and V2 slowly coming to rest in platform 2

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-160720195530.jpeg)

Close up of same trains taken from the goods yard access road at ground level

Thank you again for visiting Hillsden and apologies for a very short post. I hope you find time to visit this small town again in the near future.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)



Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 16, 2020, 08:14:37 PM
Two stunning close up and ground level shots mike. Please keep those photos depicting the atmosphere coming
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 17, 2020, 09:34:39 AM
Two stunning close up and ground level shots mike. Please keep those photos depicting the atmosphere coming

Chris,

Unfortunately there are only so many shots that you can do in a limited location, before people get bored and it becomes repetitive.

We will see what can be done, I was looking at an advert for the Blue Pullman last night and thought I would love to see that travelling through Hillsden.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 17, 2020, 09:37:07 AM
I'm sure quite a few folk on here mike would love to see the Blue Pullman as a rule 1 run the course of hillsden
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 17, 2020, 09:00:23 PM
Hillsden Day 82

Feeling a lot more like my normal self today, it has been quite a warm day, so other than eat and drink NBodger has generally been watching the test match whilst undertaking a little bit of modelling.  :thumbsup:

Mrs N took the dog out for her walk today, so this gave me more time, so did a little bit of household chores first as instructed by Mrs N, which I luckily just finished before she arrived back home phew!

Then I had to do the daily crossword puzzle with Mrs N, she says this is the only time she has my attention, I must have gone wrong somewhere. Any soon as we had completed the crossword guess what?  :no:

NBodger of course disappeared upstairs to his work bench, by now it was 11:30am and finished off painting the nine signals for Hillsden, well almost. Oh, by the way NBodger still hasnít finished tidying up his workbench area he was told to do the other day. Well his excuse is that finishing the signals is part of tidying up.  :doh:

After lunch Mrs N had to go out, so what did old NBodger do, he of course disappeared upstairs to do a little more tidying up.

First he finished the basic painting and weathering of the oil tanks destined for Thornbers yard, followed by working on the reeds for the canal, basically starting to build them up into larger clumps from what I had already constructed, hopefully in the next few days they will be fixed in the canal, also nipped into town and lightly rubbed down the canal ready for the reeds and the canals final coats of varnish.

The next item on the list was to fix the jewel lights to the signals, well the first red jewel, was determined to escape and was last seen heading for the carpet, youíve guessed, the carpet ate it, never to be seen again, along with a lot of other things. NBodger knows he should do this type of work inside a plastic bag, but could find a 6í2ĒĒ high one to fit me.

Anyway, had a quick check on the jewels left and found I had plenty of green and amber but, could not afford to lose another red one, so pressure on.

So, by tea NBodger had installed all of the jewel lights to the signals, so all that is required now is a final weathering was, possibly followed by a coat of varnish, hopefully over the weekend these will be installed trackside around Hillsden.

After tea a refreshed NBodger visited Hillsden, well at this time of the evening, would you believe it, they were having a mini heatwave and it was far too warm for poor old NBodger, well he did manage despite the intense heat, to do a little more gardening at the terraced houses on Sunnybank, three out of the five have now been started, soon will be growing potatoes, cabbage, cauliflower, broccoli, peas and beans, oh and flowers for Mrs N.

Well it has been a good day today for the citizens of Hillsden, lots of small things achieved to make visually a big difference and that will be the story of Hillsden from now on.  ::)

Todayís photo is Stanier 8F, hauling coal empties (only because Nbodger hasnít got any full ones yet), just passed under Burnley Road Bridge and midway through the cutting between Burnley Road and Midgley Road. The line to the right forms the head shunt for the goods yard.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-170720204419.jpeg)

Nbodger really does need to get some work done on the stock, including weathering.  ???

Well again another visit is over, hope you enjoyed and you will join us again in Hillsden.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

PS Leeds United promoted to the premiership, let the celebrations begin  :thumbsup: :beers: :claphappy:

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 17, 2020, 09:07:21 PM
That's been a busy day. Fine shot mike
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 18, 2020, 01:19:39 PM
I'm sure quite a few folk on here mike would love to see the Blue Pullman as a rule 1 run the course of hillsden

It may happen yet!

No I am not going shopping, but I do know someone who owns one, so could see a running session of Hillsden with North Lincs Area Group members present in the post Covid environment.

If it happens it will be photographed and / or videoed

Not promising, but hopeful

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 18, 2020, 01:43:43 PM
Be nice to see this diverted service. Looking forward to the next journey through hillsden
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 18, 2020, 08:49:40 PM
Hillsden Day 83

NBodger and Mrs N both slept in today, not even woken by the cocker spaniel Flo, which is unusual, so, over breakfast had a pleasant read of the latest post by Train waiting on Poppingham and penned a short response.  ::)

Mrs N then declared she was going to take the dog for her walk along the river, well NBodger suggested that he should accompany them, Mrs N thought that would be a great idea as I could then throw the ball for the dog to chase, NBodger responded with ďwell I do have my uses thenĒ and off we set for a pleasant walk on a quite a warm day, however, there was a nice breeze along the river bank.  ???

On return and just before lunch, NBodger disappeared upstairs to his semi tidy work bench, he does wish he could find things. Eventually finding the black and bauxite enamels, which he mixed with plenty of thinners a weathering wash and proceeding to apply all over the signals and the oil tanks, leaving them to dry for the afternoon.

After lunch NBodger visited Hillsden, by now it was starting to rain a little, Mrs N said she was going to get her watercolours out and paint some cards for her sister. NBodger now didnít feel guilty about disappearing for the afternoon.  ::)

Well what did old NBodger do out whilst in Hillsden, well first he set too, working in chest waders, planting the reeds that had been maturing for the past couple of weeks, to me they donít look too bad, a little fettling when the adhesive has set and NBodger thinks they will look quite good, well at least they get Mrs N approval, so dare not remove them now.  :smackedface:

Two additional trees were planted today, without ceremony, one canal side by the mill and the other between Halifax Road and the canal, in front of the viaduct, but still allowing views through the arches. A third tree is ready for planting canal side, which will be undertaken soon as some of the vegetation is a little loose, yes NBodger needs to apply more glue to the side slope. This has to be done carefully else the PVA water mix will just run down the side slope and fill the canal, so has been quite a restraint on finishing the works along the canal. It wonít be long now before NBodger posts a photo of the completed area.  :doh:

NBodger has also done a little more work to two of the gardens along Sunny Bank, this s also slow piecemeal work, so again will take some time to complete, again photo will not be posted until it is complete or very near completion.

You now have to be very careful when working on Hillsden as there are now so many things in the way that can easily be damaged, it doesnít help building a small town scene on a variety of levels, you can lean over to reach something at track level and in the process demolish a lighting column or two at the lower level, which is not good for clumsy NBodger, why didnít he make the layout simple.  :no:

When Mrs N visited Hillsden this afternoon she nearly took out two lamp posts whilst leaning and pointing at something on the upper level, luckily, I was able to stop her or we may be getting divorced, no doubt she would want half the railway.  :'(

I will own up now NBodger demolished a street lighting column completely on Thursday evening, just picking up a small piece of debris on the road and not concentrating, looks like I need to order some spares, because disasters are going to happen.  :oopssign:

Also did a little more experimenting with hands free uncoupling, taken some items out of service and along with my test track into the house, so I can sit down properly and understand the problems, where a little fettling is required. I am fairly positive NBodger will soon have it all working to his satisfaction.

Just before tea NBodger gave the oil tanks and signals a coat of matt varnish, so when dry these items should at long last be ready to plonk in Hillsden and yes, the work bench will be a little clearer.

Well today Nbodger brings you a series of photographs, they show Black 5, 44911 arriving at Hillsden platform 2 with the daily cross-country service from Bournemouth. The stock consists of a mixture of Maroon Mk1ís and Southern Region Green Bulleid coaches.

Enjoy

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-180720202603.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-180720202434.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-180720202300.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-180720202115.jpeg)

Would you believe the Bulleid coaches where bought around four years ago, and have resided in siding ever since, today was the first time they have run in a train.


As the layout is getting nearer its completion, NBodger will have to nail down exactly where Hillsden is on the network and what services are able to run with a little poetic license. I intend also to provide a track plan within a street map of Hillsden to help with future story lines, but that is for the future, there is still a lot of details to finish.

Again, the end of another week, so glad you have been able to join Nbodgers journey through a small mill town in Yorkshire. Thank you for reading, hope you have enjoyed and will visit again soon.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 18, 2020, 08:55:00 PM
Mike. Is that the bournemouth to york service ? Now that will be pleasing sight with a black 5 @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)  . Certainly think you have a positive day disappearing to do odd jobs and plant trees
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on July 18, 2020, 09:55:29 PM
I did wonder about the Bulleids and strongly suspected a cross country working so thanks for confirming that, Mike.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 18, 2020, 10:02:49 PM
Couple of links for those interested in the bournemouth formations   https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/80830-york-bournemouth-interregional-formations-1950s/ (https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/80830-york-bournemouth-interregional-formations-1950s/)     and       https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/11390-newcastleyork-bournemouth-southern-region-green-mk1-coach-rakes/ (https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/11390-newcastleyork-bournemouth-southern-region-green-mk1-coach-rakes/)     theres also a thread here going back some 5 years   https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=25968.0 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=25968.0)     apologies mike for hijacking
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on July 19, 2020, 08:06:42 AM
What are you going to do when the layout is completed Mike?

Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 19, 2020, 09:17:25 AM
Mike. Is that the bournemouth to york service ? Now that will be pleasing sight with a black 5 @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)  . Certainly think you have a positive day disappearing to do odd jobs and plant trees

Itís funny how you mentioned the Bournemouth to York service as it does have some memories for me. Back in the late sixties, after school during summer, I would often cycle the 12 miles to Chaloners Whin junction, outside York, train spotting, I was never one for doing homework, we always used to stay until the 8:30pm train from Bournemouth came through as it quite frequently had a western region Brush Type 4 hauling it, which were rare in the York area, sometimes we were very lucky at it was a named loco.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 19, 2020, 09:19:53 AM
Apologies for hijacking the thread. Happy days
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 19, 2020, 09:27:06 AM
I did wonder about the Bulleids and strongly suspected a cross country working so thanks for confirming that, Mike.

Hi Mick,  @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)

I have been quite surprised that no one has asked why there were Bulleids in the siding that never seemed to move, especially as they donít really fit in with the scene.

They were bought because I quite liked them and yes they could be run on a cross country service. The intention was to buy either more or Mk1ís to build up a rake, but they never materialised. When the Thompsonís arrived, they released some maroon Mk1ís to intermix with the bulleids hence yesterdayís train movement.

At some stage I will probably do a similar thing with ex GWR stock to give more variety.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 19, 2020, 09:37:35 AM
Mike. I did hear mick had some surplus mk 1s as does john dutfield
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 19, 2020, 10:43:07 AM
Apologies for hijacking the thread. Happy days

Chris,

No need to apologise, it made some interesting reading

Stay safe
Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on July 19, 2020, 10:54:54 AM
Ok.... you're gonna kill me for this....

....those trees are way too bright and green for the northern town you have so successfully modelled.

It could be the lighting, though!

Sorry!  :worried:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 19, 2020, 11:04:43 AM
Agree with george, a bit of scatter and dark green spray. Yes, mike, i do enjoy reading about coaching stock formations , more pleasing than voyages and pendelino. Prefer traditional stock say 50s to early 90s
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 19, 2020, 11:12:17 AM
What are you going to do when the layout is completed Mike?

Cheers
Martin

Martin, @port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230)

That is a very good and interesting question, it is something I have been pondering for a little while, although I have still plenty to do on Hillsden.

I think in the first instance is enjoy it, especially when hands off uncoupling is sorted along with the front slave control panel, will give me two layouts in one, a small shunting layout and a larger roundy roundy.

I will also concentrate more on the stock side, more kits, finish off existing unpainted stock, plus weathering all of the stock.

The layout is built in sections as it was hoped to exhibit it, whether that happens who knows. But I would like people to see it and come and play, certainly I hope Laurence @Innovationgame (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091)  will, plus the Area Group members, plus others nearby if they wish.

I may build a small easily portable layout, but that may not get approval from Mrs N. If Hillsden is made a permanent layout, then the ends could be remodelled, remove the fiddle yard and fix the layout against the wall, then it could be extended around the room to have more landscape, stations, Sidings etc. This would be dependant upon us not moving from our current property.

A year ago we had sold the house and downsized to a two bed bungalow, which would have required a railway room to be built separately, there was room as the plot had a massive well maintained garden, but it all fell through due to the current owners wife becoming ill.

I am also heavily committed to the North Lincs Area Group and up to Covid 19 we were wiring up a 15í long exhibition layout, built on foam type board, which was a challenge in its self. I will have plenty of buildings / structures to build for it, as it has been decided they will all be scratch built in plastikard, at present I am really the only scratch builder, so will be busy, including teaching others the bodging, sorry I mean skills involved.

So Martin not a simple answer, but was a thought provoking question, which I thank you for.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 19, 2020, 11:22:14 AM
Ok.... you're gonna kill me for this....

....those trees are way too bright and green for the northern town you have so successfully modelled.

It could be the lighting, though!

Sorry!  :worried:

George @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) and Chris @crewearpley40 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3894)

Gents,

We have had this discussion a few weeks ago, the trees are staying, they are affected by the light which the camera picks up on, the room light is at the back of those trees and shines straight through them. When the layout is lit properly with a balanced and reduced intensity it will be different I can assure you.

Trees are many colours

Mike H
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 19, 2020, 11:25:07 AM
Impressive. And yes i remember this discussion mike
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 19, 2020, 03:22:26 PM
 :hellosign: :greatpicturessign:
 Thanks for the updates Mike, excellent progress & all looking good
   stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 19, 2020, 05:17:42 PM
:hellosign: :greatpicturessign:
 Thanks for the updates Mike, excellent progress & all looking good
   stay safe regards Derek

Thanks Derek for your supportive comments very much appreciated.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 19, 2020, 05:24:25 PM
Just been looking back at your work 5 maybe 6 weeks ago mike yes seems an eternity but a pleasurable one and thecdiscussionmon the trees . Hope that you can place your signals soon.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 19, 2020, 06:46:13 PM
Hillsden Day 84

Got up this morning to another warm and sunny day, after breakfast took Flo the cocker spaniel for her usual walk, I think I tired her out, because on the way home she kept having a rest and wouldnít move without a tickle. I did think at one stage I was going to have to carry her home.  :doh:

Today has been a bit of a lazy day, watching Test Match and the Grand Prix, funny my youngest son phoned in the afternoon to tell me about his exploits with the bat yesterday. As this was the first game of the season and had hardly netted during the close season, he apparently went for the big hit straight down the ground, he said it was the right ball to hit, however he miss hit it and flying high to the boundary, but for a fielder being there it would have gone for a maximum, unfortunately he was caught on 95.  :no:

Hillsden has taken a bit of a backstage today, but old NBodger did manage to do a little bit of bodging. Having finished the oil tanks and signals yesterday, they were ready to be plonked. So, the oil tanks were fixed in place in Thornbers Yard and five of the signals have now been fixed, should finish the remainder tomorrow.  ::)

NBodger has just realised he still has the ground signals to clean up and paint, thatís going to be interesting, definitely need the magnifier for them, however, I still havenít mastered painting with the magnifier, I canít as yet get used to the distance between the paint brush and the object, no doubt it will come with practice.  :doh:

Thornbers yard needs a set of entrance gates constructing plus the store shed then it should be complete with the exception of people and vehicles.

Another little bit of landscaping was also done, but that was limited to installing one smaller tree along the canal and a little experimenting with clump foliage to see how it will look. NBodger will leave in place for a few days to see if he is satisfied with the result, more importantly if Mrs N is happy, before fixing in place and adding more.

Sorry folks no train photoís today, but back to the progress in the canal area. The photoís below show the progress to-date, the lock gates have been taken out and are awaiting weathering before fixing in place.

I am quite happy with how it looks thus far, the reeds donít look too bad, but I am undecided on whether to add more areas, or is less more.  :-\

I will probably add some small area of clump foliage to the side slopes and rear of the cladded building to act as brambles or similar, possibly dabs of paint to indicate the fruit, but will see how it looks before committing.

The canal bed has been lightly rubbed down and is awaiting further varnish to finish it off, but will not be done until the reeds have been sorted, however, if I donít add more reeds then it can be done now.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-190720183336.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-190720183434.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-190720183434.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-190720183616.jpeg)


Well that it for today, another short visit, hope you enjoyed and you will return again soon

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 19, 2020, 06:53:36 PM
Incredible work on the scenery mike. A pleasant way to spend sunday. Look forward to seeing everything in place
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on July 19, 2020, 07:13:36 PM
The canal is looking really good Mike..

very nice job  :thumbsup:

Cheers Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 19, 2020, 07:17:49 PM
Do I spot varnish
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: impinabox on July 19, 2020, 07:55:53 PM
Canal looks good but I'm still looking for the old bikes and prams. :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 19, 2020, 10:10:05 PM
Canal looks good but I'm still looking for the old bikes and prams. :D

Mike, @impinabox (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8399)

Thanks for your kind comment, very much appreciated.

There will be no prams, the kids have taken them for their go carts, but there could be a bike and oil drums, just pondering how they might look, as they need to be quite thin slivers, as not much would be above the water.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 19, 2020, 11:02:13 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
 Agreed the canal is looking superb, a point if I may I remember my local canal having no pushchairs or other debris, just my twopenneth.
  stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: impinabox on July 19, 2020, 11:32:14 PM
There will be no prams, the kids have taken them for their go carts...
Ah... go-karts - them 'd be t'posh kids then!  We, oop int frozen north, caalled 'em 'bogies'.  I'd've given me eye teeth for a nice set o' 24" pram wheels fer me bogie when ah were a lad!   :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 20, 2020, 09:46:58 AM
There will be no prams, the kids have taken them for their go carts...
Ah... go-karts - them 'd be t'posh kids then!  We, oop int frozen north, caalled 'em 'bogies'.  I'd've given me eye teeth for a nice set o' 24" pram wheels fer me bogie when ah were a lad!   :goggleeyes:

Mike @impinabox (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8399)

Thou reight lad, we did call em bogies, thous just brought back memories of going down tí cobbled street, when ah were a lad.

1962 my dad had to dig his way out of our back door to get to work, as the snow had drifted, it could be cold in Pennines.

Stay safe

Mike H
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on July 20, 2020, 09:53:17 AM
I had a go kart which I parked outside the Post Office in Wolverton and some  :censored: reversed over it and crushed it :'(
That winter of 62/63 the snow was so deep it was above door level and we had to tunnel out

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 20, 2020, 10:02:44 AM
I had a go kart which I parked outside the Post Office in Wolverton and some  :censored: reversed over it and crushed it :'(
That winter of 62/63 the snow was so deep it was above door level and we had to tunnel out

@Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)
Thanks for the video Mick, that brought back memories of walking to school on top of the drifts. Yes it was a matter of tunnelling out of the door.

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on July 20, 2020, 10:49:53 AM
I spent that Winter at, of all places, Catterick Camp.  Before I went I was told that people used to tell tales about Catterick in the Summer.  It was certainly cold and the snow was extremely deep.  It ws a pretty good Summer though.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 20, 2020, 09:31:08 PM
Hillsden Day 85

It has been a bit of a quiet lazy day again, after getting the wroth of Mrs N all because of the Forum. You see, old NBodger had said after he had finished his cup of coffee, he would take the cocker spaniel, Flo out for a walk. Well 30 minutes later a very annoyed Mrs N came into the kitchen asking why I was still sat in the kitchen, when the dog is annoying her (that’s the polite tame version). Well the real reason was I was replying to a post from @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) , I didn’t complete my reply although I did send it, I was going to add a little bit more about the destruction of his go-cart, but too late and off I went out muttering words under my breath  :censored: and took the dog out.

All was well when I returned, so did a couple of household tasks before a video conference with some ex colleagues from work, by this time it was lunch.

After lunch daughter and granddaughter turned up and they and Mrs N went out with the dog for a couple of hours, peace and quiet for NBodger at last.  :D

In yesterday’s post NBodger was debating whether to add more reeds to the canal, and was minded to do so, Mrs N confirmed my thoughts for me  :doh:, so I set about growing some more, this took a lot longer than the previous ones to construct, as I only had left the small cut off remnants from the previous build. I did say to Mrs N that I may not have enough and was quite shocked  :o when she replied “well you will have to buy some more”.

Managed to salvage a fair few and constructed a length, which is now left for the PVA to fully dry over the next two days before installing in the canal along with a couple of small lengths that were left from the previous batch.

Also, while they were out, I spent some time looking again at hands free uncoupling.  Success of uncoupling the locomotive from stock has been limited so I needed to have a good close look to see what the problem was. It was found the front edge of a Farish coupling was fouling the lifting coupling, so after a little bit of filing, this was soon sorted, certainly with Peco stock. I could also now see the problem with the coaches and I have the magnet on the coupling very slightly out of position and us catching, so hopefully with a realignment it should work. It is early days but a good step forward in the right direction, with more testing to do. I am not going to rush this as I need to be satisfied 100% with the capabilities.  ::)

Whilst all this was going on, I was glued to my iPad watching England’s victory over the Windies, another good result, looking forward to the next test match on Friday.  :thumbsup:

Nothing much else was done today, unless I do some more landscaping later on, put probably reserve my energy for the morning, I understand I have some gardening to do.  :doh:

This evenings photographs show A2 Bachelors Button awaiting the guards whistle to depart from platform three with the 20:00 hrs express to London Kings Cross. Shortly to pass the new signal recently installed.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-200720205003.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-200720205119.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-200720205229.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-200720205345.jpeg)

Regarding signaling all the home signals I believe are correct, however two distant signals have been added, probably not necessary in their location, but it was a bit of artistic license to bring another bit of colour to the scene, however, these are not seen in tonight’s photographs, just a warning for future posts for the purists  :-[ :-[, sorry

Enjoy

Thank you for visiting this evening, hope you have enjoyed your brief visits to Hillsden. Hope you visit again soon.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on July 20, 2020, 09:46:32 PM
I spent most of the day watching the cricket. And very enjoyable it was too.
We took a trip to Holywell Bay very first thing (we were there by 8-15) and had the vast beach virtually to ourselves enjoying a nice walk.
Home foe coffee by 10.45 then spent most of the day glued to the tv.
Oh well, there is always tomorrow.

Cheers

Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 20, 2020, 09:48:15 PM
The signals add a whole load of railway-ness to the various scenes :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on July 20, 2020, 10:31:32 PM
You see, old NBodger had said after he had finished his cup of coffee, he would take the cocker spaniel, Flo out for a walk. Well 30 minutes later a very annoyed Mrs N came into the kitchen asking why I was still sat in the kitchen, when the dog is annoying her (thatís the polite tame version). Well the real reason was I was replying to a post from @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) , I didnít complete my reply although I did send it, I was going to add a little bit more about the destruction of his go-cart, but too late and off I went out muttering words under my breath  :censored: and took the dog out.


Just because you got into trouble with Mrs N there's no reason to blame me :angel: :no:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 21, 2020, 03:42:06 AM
Realistic work on those signals, look like you have sited in the right place
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 21, 2020, 07:20:57 AM

Just because you got into trouble with Mrs N there's no reason to blame me :angel: :no:

I was just merely stating the facts mílaud, honest guv

Mike H  :no:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on July 21, 2020, 08:55:42 AM
The signals add a whole load of railway-ness to the various scenes :thumbsup:

Seconded!  Signals, especially semaphore signals, are really effective contributors to railway-ness.  I suppose that's why they have been such a favourite accessory for manufacturers over many years.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 21, 2020, 08:59:28 AM
The signals add a whole load of railway-ness to the various scenes :thumbsup:

Seconded!  Signals, especially semaphore signals, are really effective contributors to railway-ness.  I suppose that's why they have been such a favourite accessory for manufacturers over many years.

Best wishes.

John
                                                                                     i  agree with you both there. The signals look effective and well painted mike
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: springwood on July 21, 2020, 01:54:34 PM
I spent most of the day watching the cricket. And very enjoyable it was too.

I spent a few hours watching the paint dry on my shed and that was possibly more exciting than the cricket!!  :smiley-laughing:

Shortly to pass the new signal recently installed.

Whose signals have you used and are they operational?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 21, 2020, 02:25:46 PM
I spent most of the day watching the cricket. And very enjoyable it was too.

I spent a few hours watching the paint dry on my shed and that was possibly more exciting than the cricket!!  :smiley-laughing:

Shortly to pass the new signal recently installed.

Whose signals have you used and are they operational?

Well I will ignore your first comment other than to say you obviously donít understand the intriguing game of cricket and the challenge between bat and ball.

Regarding the signals, they are a combination of PD Marsh white metal castings and Ratio etched brass ladders. They are non working because to get working signals would have taken too much time away from watching cricket.  ;)

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on July 21, 2020, 03:52:48 PM
The signals do add to the scene, surprising the difference they make working or not. And regards cricket, I am afraid one of those who would rather watch grass grow ( or paint dry  )than watch cricket. It might relate to at school I was one of those who never got a chance to bat or bowl and frequently was just stood around the perimeter of the pitch bored out of my skull.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 21, 2020, 04:38:12 PM
The signals do add to the scene, surprising the difference they make working or not. And regards cricket, I am afraid one of those who would rather watch grass grow ( or paint dry  )than watch cricket. It might relate to at school I was one of those who never got a chance to bat or bowl and frequently was just stood around the perimeter of the pitch bored out of my skull.


Chris @lil chris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784)

I donít want this thread to turn into a discussion solely on cricket

Everybody has there own likes and dislikes, you had a bad experience at school, that was not the games fault, but the inexperience of teachers to coach and run proper sessions.

The quality of the person running the sessions makes or breaks ones enjoyment of any sport.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 21, 2020, 04:42:01 PM
Back on track, topic, looking forward to seeing more on the canal in this beautiful yorkshire town
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on July 21, 2020, 06:19:13 PM
Yes sorry about that rant, yes back on topic the railway and the canal are looking good.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 21, 2020, 09:48:39 PM
Hillsden Day 86

This morning NBodger got up full of enthusiasm for what he is not quite sure, however, as the day went on the enthusiasm deteriorated.  :(

After the usual hearty breakfast of toast and black coffee, NBodger set off with Flo the cocker spaniel for a short walk of around one mile. This was all because Flo had disturbed Mrs N early and demanded that she be taken out, which Mrs N did. When NBodger descended downstairs from the land of sleep, he was greeted by Mrs N telling him she was going back to bed for a lie in as she had been up early for the dog. Soon, workmen arrived to repair the footways to our road and the dog would not stop barking at them, so to gain some merit points towards my next purchase, NBodger took the dog out to keep the peace.  :angel:

Late morning, we had a video call with our friends in County Durham, whom we are hoping to visit them soon, as they moved to their new house around a week prior to lockdown.

After lunch Mrs N took the cocker spaniel out for her normal long walk, in this case around two hours, down to Welton Waters and back, and NBodger went out to do some gardening, well we do have some turf arriving for the front lawn to patch it, so needed to remove the old turf, after half an hour, well it may have been ten minutes, NBodger gave up, too much like hard work for him so left it for eldest son to do on Thursday when he brings the turf, well it is his occupation, NBodger was only trying to help.  :angel:

Turning to Hillsden again Nbodgers not contributed a lot today, he set off to spend a little time working on the trials for the hands free uncoupling, but spent time struggling gluing the small magnets in place, first time I have had problems, for some reason they would not adhere in place and at one stage three of the little devils joined together, were seen heading for the sideboard, luckily I heard where they landed and was able to retrieve. After a bit of cleaning up on the coupling the magnet finally held in place and has been left to cure. NBodger not sure where the couplings came from, they were stored in a spares box, so possibly constructed from a different plastic that what I had attached too before.

Well after juggling with the magnets, NBodger looked at the clock and suddenly realised he had a video conference with members of the North Lincs Area Group, yes it had slipped old Nbodgers mind, must have been the excitement of the juggling magnets.  :doh:

Next NBodger visited Hillsden and did a little bit more gardening, turning the soil over in a couple of gardens, this was a little easier than his efforts outside earlier, more Nbodgers type of gardening.  ::)

Nothing was done with the canal scene today as still awaiting the new lengths of reeds for planting, NBodger applied a little more PVA today, to make sure they are secure. Hopefully tomorrow they will be ready.

At long last NBodger has finally installed all the signals, so it is now a little safer to travel on the trains around Hillsden. One signal had to have a small amount of cutting removed to accommodate it, and it is close to the layout edge. So, note to NBodger be extra careful when working on the layout as there are too many delicate items awaiting old clumsy NBodger to destroy.  :worried:

No doubt NBodger will be criticised for the two distant signals in the wrong place and after posting will be sat with his hard hat on, and yes, I have one.  :doh:

As stated yesterday Thornbers yard requires a materials store constructing, NBodger has also been sketching some draft ideas for the location, from which he will produce drawings to build from. Will probably take NBodger a lot longer to construct than port Perran has taken to construct an entire motive power depot extension to his layout.

Well today I came very close to deleting the Hillsden thread, but for the moment I will continue to contribute to it, I will leave it at that.  :(

This evenings photographs depict the Hillsden section of The Yorkshire Pullman destined for Leeds, where it will be marshalled with the other Pullman sections before departing for London Kings Cross.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-210720212109.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-210720212222.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-210720212334.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-210720212431.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-210720212549.jpeg)

The above photographs combined with yesterdays photoís show all of Hillsdenís signals, so you can now pick to pieces, hard hat is on  :telloff:


Again, that is it for today, hope you have enjoyed your visit and visit Hillsden again soon

Thank you for reading

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 21, 2020, 09:56:50 PM
Mike. Those signals are so realistic and contribute to the safety of trains. Love the west riding pulllman stock
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on July 21, 2020, 10:19:49 PM
Hi Mike,

The signals are looking great, semaphores do look much more pleasing to the eye than LEDís in my opinion, but for signals on my layout (a long why off) I think Iíll end up with LEDís.

Cheers Derek

 
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on July 22, 2020, 12:10:41 AM
I will have a mixture of semaphores and three aspect colour signals on my layout. I prefer the semiphores though they always look amazing especially working. But what a difference it makes having any signals it brings the railway to life.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 22, 2020, 07:54:46 PM
Hillsden Day 87

Came downstairs this morning thinking it was Tuesday, unfortunately NBodger soon realised it was Wednesday, why I thought this, who knows as I put the bin out last night for the normal Wednesday collection, Nbodgers obviously losing it.  :doh:

Weather wise it has been a odd day too, one minute very warm, then turning quite cold, NBodger seems to have got the short straw again today, setting off after breakfast with Flo the cocker spaniel for a short walk, just over a mile.  ???

Mrs N and myself where going to have the afternoon out, travelling the short distance to Pocklington Canal Head and a walk along the canal with Flo, with the possibility if it wasnít busy calling in at a Garden Centre on the way home, did this happen, well No.  :(

Mrs N had realised that this afternoon was the only free time she had to bake a birthday cake for our granddaughter who is three on Saturday, as we have to take the cake to Cottingham tomorrow evening. So, guess what, NBodger ended up taking Flo out for a longer walk along the Banks of the Humber.  ???

Well did NBodger get any time to work on Hillsden, of course he did.

NBodger spent some time designing and drawing the workshop stores for Thornbers yard, ready to scratch build. NBodger thought he would give you an insight into how he starts his buildings, see photo below of drawing, which shows the elevations of the proposed building.  ::)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-220720193446.jpeg)

The reeds were also ready for planting, so again NBodger donned his chest high waders and planted them in the canal, these still need trimming to the correct height when the PVA has dried, then finally the canal can have its final coats of varnish. NBodger hopes he has more success than the last application of varnish, we will soon see, possibly as early as tomorrow.  ::)

Whilst in Hillsden, NBodger did a small amount of turfing to two of the rear gardens on Sunny Bank, these gardens are taking a little time to get done, but hopefully it will be worth it.  ::)

Also, NBodger did a little bit more work on the uncoupling, finally get a Farish coach to uncouple, but not 100% satisfied, so a little bit more experimentation and thinking (which is dangerous). The next experiment is probably to utilise an electro magnet in lieu of static. I must admit going to electro magnets will cause NBodger some problems, first running more wires, when existing plug capacity is at its limit, but sure he can find a simple solution, also there are three existing permanent magnets installed under the tracks already, these will need removing. These were installed many years ago to accommodate DG couplings, but these have been dismissed as now being too fiddly for old NBodger. Still confident we will get there, a day NBodger is looking forward to.   :hmmm:
Thatís all NBodger has done today, but a reasonable productive day

Todays photograph is of British Rail Type 4, Sulzer Engined, ďPeakĒ Number D1 Scafell Pike, with a total of 2,300 b.h.p, hauling coal empties through Scout Road Cutting as the shafts of sunlight appear between the buildings and the locomotive.

When trainspotting near York on Sunday afternoons, quite often one of the first ten Peaks, named after Peaks would be rostered to come through, these locoís were very rare in the York area doing this period although the 2,500 b.h.p were not, often on cross country services.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-220720193542.jpeg)

Thatís all for this evening and thank you for reading, hope you have enjoyed your visit and you return soon.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 22, 2020, 08:10:33 PM
Love the look of the type 4 mike. Brings memories too. The draughtsman drawing looks like you have kept yourself busy
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on July 22, 2020, 10:56:04 PM
Hi Mike, is that Ďpeakí a class 45? If it is my local model shop has a Farish one in BR Blue, and all being well Iíd probably like to buy it next month assuming it is still in stock. Got to admit is is a lovely looking loco.

Cheers Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 22, 2020, 11:22:07 PM
Derek. It's a class 44 see https://www.hattons.co.uk/10341/graham_farish_371_201_class_44_d1_scafell_pike_in_br_green/stockdetail.aspx (https://www.hattons.co.uk/10341/graham_farish_371_201_class_44_d1_scafell_pike_in_br_green/stockdetail.aspx)          IF your after the 45 see  https://www.hattons.co.uk/10353/graham_farish_371_576_class_45_45114_in_br_blue/stockdetail.aspx (https://www.hattons.co.uk/10353/graham_farish_371_576_class_45_45114_in_br_blue/stockdetail.aspx)     Is 44001 / D1 Scafell Pike
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 22, 2020, 11:31:36 PM
Hi Mike, is that ‘peak’ a class 45? If it is my local model shop has a Farish one in BR Blue, and all being well I’d probably like to buy it next month assuming it is still in stock. Got to admit is is a lovely looking loco.

Cheers Derek

Derek @degsy_safc (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8267)

The picture is of a class 44 Peak, the first ten were 2300 bhp and had disc headcodes, the other 183 built were class 45 and were 2500 bhp and had head Code boxes either single or split.

The body was basically the same except for the headcodes

So a 44 and 45 is basically the same, I also have a 45 see below

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-030520202809.jpeg)

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

PS I don’t think they have a DCC socket, so check, may need hard wiring.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on July 23, 2020, 12:00:11 AM
Hi Mike, is that Ďpeakí a class 45? If it is my local model shop has a Farish one in BR Blue, and all being well Iíd probably like to buy it next month assuming it is still in stock. Got to admit is is a lovely looking loco.

Cheers Derek

Derek @degsy_safc (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8267)

The picture is of a class 44 Peak, the first ten were 2300 bhp and had disc headcodes, the other 183 built were class 45 and were 2500 bhp and had head Code boxes either single or split.

The body was basically the same except for the headcodes

So a 44 and 45 is basically the same, I also have a 45 see below

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/8543-030520202809.jpeg)

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

PS I donít think they have a DCC socket, so check, may need hard wiring.
Hi Mike,

Thanks I thought it looked the same as the one in the shop. Interesting that there were only 10 of the Ďclass 44í made before they changed to the more powerful class 45. When I saw the model in the shop Iím sure I asked if it was DCC ready and I think he said it was. If it isnít, I wonít be getting into hard wiring, Iíll just do without and plump for something else when funds permit.

By the way, the shot of your actual class 45 looks lovely, in both my N Gauge (present) / OO Gauge (past) days Iíve never had a loco with a head code box, even though I think they look really nice. Iím not sure whether the class 45 in the shop had a luminated head code box or not, but I do know it was in BR blue with the yellow nose.

Cheers Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2020, 01:39:44 AM
Hope this helps mike and derek with headcode box identification.... https://www.derbysulzers.com/45headcode.html (https://www.derbysulzers.com/45headcode.html)  . I could go on about detail variations, but staying on topic, they are two fine locomotives in wonderful settings
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on July 23, 2020, 08:13:31 AM
I'll be interested to hear how you get on with the electromagnets, Mike.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2020, 09:22:42 AM
I'll be interested to hear how you get on with the electromagnets, Mike.
            just caught up with the electromagnets issue. Makes two of us interested in this
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 23, 2020, 09:38:38 AM
PS I donít think they have a DCC socket, so check, may need hard wiring.

Indeed they don't, I've got 4 of them.  It's definitely a hardwire job and you need to take the two halves of the chassis apart in order to get at the motor terminals.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on July 23, 2020, 10:05:31 AM
Also note D138-D193 were actually classified as class 46, so the Peak class included 44.45 and 46.
I have one of each. They are quite old models and, as Steve says, are not DCC ready.

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2020, 11:01:41 AM
D1 TO 10 WERE the class 44  , D11 to 137 the 45s, and mick has pointed out the numbers for the class 46.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 23, 2020, 11:27:03 AM
This threads turned into THE THREE PEAKS CHALLENGE  ;D

Stay safe

Mike H  ???
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2020, 11:35:50 AM
Yes mike. Certainly looks like the diesel roster is as much eye pleasing as is the collection of steam locos on hillsden
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 23, 2020, 02:56:05 PM
 :hellosign:.  :greatpicturessign:
Forgive me Mike, just catching up (as back to work) signals looking superb & yes the Peaks are a nice looking loco. Thanks for the updates.
  stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 23, 2020, 08:07:30 PM
Hillsden Day 88

It has been a busy day for NBodger at the home of Hillsden, but very little work has been done on Hillsden  :(, so not a lot to write about. Well what did happen today.

After breakfast, NBodger went for a three mile walk with our cocker spaniel Flo, it was warm and pleasant walking along the banks of the Humber and old NBodger was ready for a cold drink when he returned, but had to make do with squash.  :doh:

Our landscape gardener turned up late morning, whom is our eldest son, with the turf for our front garden. He set to work laying it with the hindrance (sorry help) of Mrs N, whilst NBodger whizzed around the back garden with the lawn mower, followed by trimming the edges, a rarity for NBodger.  ::)

By mid afternoon the turfing was all done, Mrs N disappeared to daughters with granddaughterís birthday cake for Saturday. So, this left NBodger with eldest son, who wanted to chat and chat, whilst NBodger wanted to get on with some work on Hillsden, but he stayed until well after 4:00pm, and he is back tomorrow.  :hmmm:

Finally, NBodger was able to get on with a little bit of work, but not for long as Mrs N soon returned home.

NBodger managed to do the following work: -

First, he was going to finally varnish the canal with its final coats, but he stumbled on an extra length of reeds, which were hidden under a cup, NBodger had put them there to hold two strips of reads together whilst they dried and yes somebody forgot about them.

So, NBodger when to glue them in place in the canal, but another disaster created by yours truly, the brush NBodger had used yesterday evening was now rock solid with glue, all because in haste NBodger hadnít cleaned it, so the brush was immersed in water, so hopefully it will recover. Finally, NBodger placed the last of the reeds, so we wait another day before the varnish comes out. Well we are not in a hurry, are we?  >:(

NBodger also dug out from the storage draws a seep electromagnet, purchased what 25 years ago, have you seen the price of them now! The intention is to install it in the length of test track as the next phase of hands-free uncoupling. NBodger hasnít installed it yet, but it will be soon, I need to see if I have a power supply for it that works, I know I have an old triangle controller but how good it is I donít know, unfortunately my old H&M Duette is in the club rooms, so cannot retrieve that at present. As I am looking at possibility of electromagnets in lieu of fixed I am delaying the additional wiring to the main control panel, including alterations to the fiddle yard until uncoupling has been resolved, to save sorting the wiring out in two visits.   ???

Well NBodger finally got to work on the new storage building, illustrated in yesterdayís post. The intention was to at least complete the shell, so it could be sited in Thornbers yard to make sure it suits the location, however, NBodger only got as far as marking out the sides on 20tho plain plastikard, ready for cutting out. After finishing tonightís post NBodger will do a little more and possibly get it ready for a test plonk in Thornbers.

Today NBodger has not had time to take any new photographs, so he has dug in his archive and pulled out a recently taken photograph which has not been shown previous.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-230720195445.jpeg)

A4 Silver Fox and V2 Green Arrow pass close in Hillsden Station

Hopefully tomorrow will bring some photographic updates on progress, but who knows, Mrs N may have other ideas  :uneasy:

Hope you have enjoyed todayís visit to a little piece of Yorkshire, and you return soon, you will always be welcomed.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2020, 09:25:27 PM
Loved the dialogue mike, trust mrs nbodger will allow time for you to deal with hillsden matters
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 24, 2020, 08:09:27 PM
Hillsden Day 89

Friday and the third test against the Windies started today, NBodger had a big decision to make, cricket or railway, read on to find out.  :hmmm:

After breakfast NBodger was relieved to see that Mrs N was taking Flo for her walk, so he was free to do whatever he wanted, well for an hour at least, so I poured myself another cup of coffee and put another slice of bread in the toaster.  ::)

NBodger spent the morning doing household chores, followed by a little gardening, placing fine soils in the joints to the turf laid yesterday, followed by a good soaking.

After lunch Mrs N wanted her sun lounger out, where she spent the afternoon laid on it reading a book. Well in fact I had to get two sun loungers out, no one was not for NBodger, the second one was for the dog.  :no:

So, NBodger disappeared upstairs to his work bench and set too working on the new building for Thornbers yard. There was a good reason for this, NBodger canít get a good internet connection in Hillsden, so he wouldnít be able to watch cricket on his IPad. Well with the money the government is supposedly putting into to connect remote communities, perhaps, just perhaps Hillsden may get the internet. Oh no, just thought of a problem Hillsden is in the 1950ís / 60ís, the internet was not around then, but possibly I could have watched the cricket on the BBC, well you could have back then.  :no:

Late yesterday evening NBodger put together the external shell of the building, so that he could see how it would possibly fit in, see photo below. The building at this time is very flimsy as there is no roof / floor structure to tie it together. Nbodger is also minded to build it all out of brick and asbestos cement cladding in lieu of building the timber store in timber cladding, but we will see.  ::)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-240720195708-97356827.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-240720195705-973501493.jpeg)

Well when it was tea time at the cricket NBodger spent the next 30 mins in Hillsden, however, he got carried away and spent an hour.

Whilst there NBodger undertook a little more landscaping, this time planting clump foliage around Hillsden, first to the station cutting, which still requires more, along the canal, some small clumps as bushes / undergrowth and at present to one side of the embankment leading to the viaduct, it is the first time that NBodger has used this material, but seems to be turning out ok.

Well this was followed by at long last letting the water back into the canal, looks ok for me, but judge for yourself the canal area in what is probably its final state, with no prams, bicycles, oil drums and supermarket trolleys in sight. Yes, NBodger decided against it.  ::)

What hopefully will be added at some stage is a couple of fishermen and the odd person walking along the tow path.

Things may change as time goes on a more foliage etc. may possibly be added, but NBodger would prefer to see how it still looks in a few monthsí time.  :doh:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-240720195706-973522456.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-240720195705-97350220.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-240720195706-97352670.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-240720195707-973542139.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-240720195707-973542366.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-240720195708-97356811.jpeg)

Well sorry to disappoint but no train photographs today, however, thank you for visiting Hillsden, hope you have enjoyed your visit and you return soon.

Stay safe


Mike H   8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 24, 2020, 08:12:50 PM
Mike. The canal looks brilliant just needs, vegetation, the odd fisherman and one person and a dog scenario
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on July 24, 2020, 09:33:07 PM
Mike, I too was distracted by the cricket today and probably will be tomorrow too.

Onto the railway and, your third photograph of the canal through the arch is fantastic.  Really atmospheric.
My only other comment is the towpath. Does it look just a little too ďneat and tidyĒ, especially in the 5th photograph?
Could you add a few bushes just to take the edge off?

The reeds look great. I tried that on my Trepol Bay canal but I might have another go inspired by yours.

Great work.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 24, 2020, 10:09:53 PM
My only other comment is the towpath. Does it look just a little too “neat and tidy”, especially in the 5th photograph?
Could you add a few bushes just to take the edge off?

Hi Martin

First thank you very much for your comments and appreciation of the canal scene, it makes the doing all worthwhile.

Thank you also for your suggestions on the towpath, normally I would have some weeds or similar along the fence and buildings and I don’t know why I haven’t done that. I have a tendency at the moment to try and add everything and end up overdoing, less is more springs to mind.

That is why I am leaving for a little while, to see what is needed, I did hint at adding a little more foliage etc. No doubt this will happen, but I don’t want to overdo it, which I think I would at the moment, it’s called getting carried away.

The lock gates still need to be weathered and adding to the scene, which will have a little bit of greenery on them.

I think what I am saying is I totally agree with you, but it won’t happen tomorrow.

If you do want to try again adding reeds to Trepol Bay Canal and you wish to know my methods, then please let me know.

Again thanks for your appreciation

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on July 24, 2020, 10:48:05 PM
The canal looks excellent.  :thumbsup:

Reminds me of the opening scenes in 'The Full Monty'
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 24, 2020, 10:58:56 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:
     Wow the canal is looking splendid, doesn`t need a great deal more, just my opinion   :thumbsup:
       stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on July 25, 2020, 06:44:31 AM
The canal is looking really good now.  :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: impinabox on July 25, 2020, 08:59:00 AM
Mike. The canal looks brilliant just needs, vegetation, the odd fisherman and one person and a dog scenario
...and old bikes.   :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on July 25, 2020, 02:35:05 PM
Mike. The canal looks brilliant just needs, vegetation, the odd fisherman and one person and a dog scenario
...and old bikes.   :D
Remember this was the 1950s.  British waterways looked after the canals very well in those days.  My Grandma's garden was bounded by the Oxford Canal on one side (it was Wharf House, after all) and there were a couple of dredgers stabled near by.  I never saw anything untoward in that stretch of the canal.  Let's face it, a collier came past every five minutes or so.  Anything in the canal would soon have been salvaged by the bargees, who were not a particularly refined lot.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on July 25, 2020, 03:12:24 PM
Anything in the canal would soon have been salvaged by the bargees

Particularly onions, I believe.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: impinabox on July 25, 2020, 03:39:32 PM
Particularly onions, I believe.
:smiley-laughing:  :doh:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 25, 2020, 06:06:45 PM
Mike. The canal looks brilliant just needs, vegetation, the odd fisherman and one person and a dog scenario
...and old bikes.   :D

Yes thatís possible, with perhaps someone riding it along the tow path
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 25, 2020, 08:34:48 PM
Hillsden Day 90

Welcome to another day in Hillsden and District.

First, I would like to thank you for the very nice comments yesterday, regarding the canal, very much appreciated and as I have said before it makes the doing worth doing. Yes it may be my layout and I am the one to satisfy, but when others appreciate what you have done it makes it extra satisfying.  :thankyousign:

Well, today it is a very warm day, with no rain in sight and its day two of the test match.

After breakfast the usual toast and black coffee, NBodger set of with Flo the cocker spaniel for her long walk along the Humber Bank, whilst Mrs N did some watercolour painting. NBodger had to hurry up on the walk as it was getting near to 11:00 am, when cricket starts and he didnít wish to miss that.  ::)

Just a little aside story from last night, this evening we have youngest son staying overnight, as he has a home cricket match, so yesterday Mrs N got his room and bed made up. Well during the night Flo, the cocker went into his bedroom, pulled back the duvet and slept in his bed, would you believe it Mrs N even accused NBodger of sleeping in it, but no it was the dog. So when youngest son stays tonight, he may get a surprise.  :o

On Nbodgers return, he put the kettle on and brewed some coffee for he and Mrs N and sat to watch the cricket, which to fair, he has done all day, except during most of this time he was working hard on building the stores for Thornbers, which are taking shape. please see photo below, roof to be completed, then main shell will be finished, other than tidying up etc., mind you that is the tricky bit, if roof goes ok, they just finishing to do. At this rate I will soon be up to @port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230)  Ďs speed of constructing buildings.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-250720202207-973982055.jpeg)

When bad light stopped play in the cricket, NBodger called it a day.  :doh:

Well, I thought I would bring you another train photograph this evening, well three actually of the same train from different angles. The photographs are of Sulzer type 2, which is an original Farish, Poole built loco, hauling three N Gauge society kits.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-250720202207-97398527.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-250720202210-97405515.jpeg)

I couldnít resist another view of the canal scene

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-250720202211-974051451.jpeg)


Sorry that is it for today, thank you for visiting Hillsden, hope you have enjoyed your visit to Nbodgers Yorkshire and you return soon.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 25, 2020, 08:43:00 PM
Do I spot bolster wagons mike,on a farish or ngs bogie set ?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: impinabox on July 25, 2020, 09:08:44 PM
I always enjoy my visits to Hilsden but I can see that I'm going to have to sneak up the M62 one night and dump some old bikes in the canal.   (Hmmm... predictive text thinks that should be old 'jokes'.  I'll leave that to @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264).   :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 25, 2020, 09:24:51 PM
Do I spot bolster wagons mike,on a farish or ngs bogie set ?

Chris,
All three are NGauge Society kits, the first is a Bogie Bolster Type D ex LMS, followed by two Salmon, one with bolsters (still not installed) and one flat bed.

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 25, 2020, 09:27:31 PM
Thanks mike. I've never made any of those kits but they look the part. I have as always enjoyed my visit
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 25, 2020, 09:39:50 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
   Thanks Mike all looking superb
   stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on July 25, 2020, 09:54:12 PM
Dare I mention the twin bracket signal in the first pic looks slightly on the lean, Mike?
I do love those old Type 2s and have 3 of them. Very smooth runners.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 25, 2020, 10:34:02 PM
Dare I mention the twin bracket signal in the first pic looks slightly on the lean, Mike?
I do love those old Type 2s and have 3 of them. Very smooth runners.


Hi Mick, @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)

It may be leaning slightly, but I think the angle of the camera has exaggerated it, I have just looked at a previous published photo from the opposite end and it looks vertical. It was difficult installing the signals as the areas were all built up and irregular, so I had to do some work to get them near right.

Also I do find a lot of things on Hillsden don’t look vertical, I am not sure that this isn’t to some extent an optical illusion, due to the landfall changing directions and various angles in a short space.

And another excuse from me, because of the landscape it is difficult to get your eyes in line with the object, who in their right mind builds a multilevel landscape.

Mike H  8)

PS UPDATE confirmed slight lean unfortunately as the majority do, but not as bad as it looks in the photo, Nbodgers going to have to sort them soon.

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 26, 2020, 10:55:59 AM
I always enjoy my visits to Hilsden but I can see that I'm going to have to sneak up the M62 one night and dump some old bikes in the canal.   (Hmmm... predictive text thinks that should be old 'jokes'.  I'll leave that to @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264).   :D

Mike, @impinabox (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8399)

Glad you enjoy your trips to Hillsden.

No need to come up the M62, just catch a train and jump over the fence when you get here.

You can watch both Hillsden and the real thing at the same time.

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on July 26, 2020, 02:27:22 PM
I know what you mean about the optical illusion, Mike. I have a pair of inherited candlesticks, one of which looks slightly bent from one angle but perfectly upright from another. In my case, though, I think it actually is slightly bent :doh:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 26, 2020, 09:13:29 PM
Hillsden Day 91 (13 weeks, unlucky for NBodger?)

Yet again a nice warm day hear in East Yorkshire, Mrs N got up nice and early and took the dog for her walk, unfortunately NBodger has been told it is his turn in the morning, whatís more it is supposed to be heavy rain, looks like I have been outwitted one again by Mrs N.  :unimpressed:

First for a long time NBodger had bacon instead of toast for breakfast along with his normal black coffee, this was only because youngest son stayed overnight after playing cricket at his home ground. After last weekís exploits with the bat, he got the more customary duck this week, caught at slip by a juggler apparently, but he did brag that he bowled five successive maidens, but didnít mention anything about wickets, NBodger will take a peek at the scorecard to check.  :no:

Oh yes NBodger had even to cook breakfast and tidy up, however soon as youngest son was off the premises, old NBodger went to the workbench along with his iPad to watch the test match and undertake a little more work to the store building.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-260720210138-97426729.jpeg)

The roof still requires trimming and a little fettling, but, Nbodger at present is not that happy with the building, but at present will soldier on a little further to convince himself or consign it to experience and the bin.  :confused1:

He didnít do much work to the building, other than construct the curved roof, first with a 10tho plain sheet of plastikard, overlaid with an embossed 20tho cladding sheet. That was it for the morning as we were going to our daughters for an hour early afternoon for coffee and cake to see granddaughterís birthday presents as she was three yesterday. Yes, he would be the first time NBodger would see what he had bought her, loosely translated means handed over the money for.  ???

On arrival at daughters, we were invited to a BBQ for tea, so much to Nbodgers dislike we were staying until early evening, which totally scuppered his railway and cricket plans for the day. By now NBodger was seething as he obviously had been outwitted twice in one day. Well at least heavy rain is forecast for tomorrow so may get plenty of modelling done, but one never knows.  :unimpressed:

Obviously now we are able to get out and about much more as we slowly come out of shielding NBodgers work on Hillsden is going to slow down and become non existent on some days. He as only been able to achieve the amount of work he has done recently due to shielding, which has kept him somewhat sane, although Mrs N may not agree with that.  :doh:

As I havenít had time for any photography work today, I have dug out a photo taken earlier in the week, again, showing Peak (Class 44) D1 Scafell Pike on coal empties, travelling through Hillsden Station.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-260720210228-97467849.jpeg)

Hopefully during the week, I will have time to bring you a new video, as it is two weeks since the last.  :hmmm:

Sorry folks there is not a lot to say tonight except the verticality of the signals will be sorted.

So, thank you for visiting Hillsden and I apologise if you are disappointed with tonightís post, hopefully back tomorrow, so please visit again.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 26, 2020, 09:22:43 PM
Lovely photos mike. See you and hillsden tomorrow
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on July 26, 2020, 09:54:21 PM
After last weekís exploits with the bat, he got the more customary duck this week, caught at slip by a juggler apparently

The team captain should have told him to go for the juggler, maybe :hmmm:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 26, 2020, 10:27:26 PM
See you and hillsden tomorrow

Chris
No pressure then?

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 26, 2020, 11:43:53 PM
I enjoy my trips mike. I may have to name a road on my l layout hillsden road
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 27, 2020, 08:59:08 PM
Hillsden Day 92

As the forecast it was a wet morning, rising early has requested by Mrs N to take the dog out for a short walk, well I translated it as a request, but maybe I was just told.

Came back from taking Flo the dog out and had the usual Toast and coffee, mine was buttered toast but the dog has pate on hers.

Spent a couple of hours writing the story of Hillsden, until Mrs N finally surfaced, NBodger then quickly got on with some household chores before he got the wroth of Mrs N, obviously the old bodger is really a dodger.

Just after lunch as it had stopped raining and the wind was getting stronger so NBodger set off to take the dog out for a walk around the block, which is just over a mile. We set off and headed for the railway station and round onto the railway bridge and continued in the direction of home, when we got to the entrance to the little car park by the haven, the dog pulled NBodger across the road as she had decided she wanted a longer walk along the Humber Bank, so as usual NBodger did what was told, this time by a small dog, however, female.  :doh:

NBodger managed to spend a little time on Hillsden when he got back from that longer walk the expected, so what did he do.

First, he started finishing the roof to the stores he is building, spent around 20 minutes searching for some half round guttering for the building, but could only find enough for one side. NBodger disappointed, thought he was sure that he had some lengths of square channel that would do as an alternative. So NBodger then spent another 20 minutes or so looking for these but to no avail, could only find equal angle. So NBodger decided to construct just one side and the other later, when done NBodger found by chance the square channels, what does he do now?

A quick think by NBodger, what a noise that made with the grinding of cogs, but no split ones thankfully, he decided to use the channel section and quickly removed the half round ones, made a bit of a mess, but bodger soon cleaned them up and fixed the channel sections, actually looks a lot better than the half round ones. The next work to be done on this building is to paint the internal walls and ceilings and get them to a finished state, next will be to build storage racks etc, these will contribute to stability of the structure. One thing NBodger is concerned about is that the concrete slab area where the building sits has a dip in it, which is obvious when the building is sat there, how this finally looks will dictate whether NBodger bins it or not.  :confused2:

Well what next NBodger went in search of some lengths of wood, to raise the uncoupling test track, to enable the electromagnet to be fitted. Well NBodger found a eight foot length of 3Ēx 3Ē, which obviously needed cutting, but continued looking but to no avail, so NBodger needs to sum up some energy to cut a couple of lengths, so further testing delayed again.  :doh:

He also, whilst in Hillsden, did a little bit more landscaping to various areas, there is now around four square inches on the layout, that hasnít been covered, well thatís a feat in itself.

Two days ago, I posted a photograph of a Sulzer type 2, well, that train didnít get very far, in fact it didnít quite clear the viaduct before breaking down  :(, those unreliable early diesels, well the Sulzer had to be replaced by a trusty steam locomotive, this time a 4F, enjoy

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-270720204303-974842191.jpeg)

Well thank you for again visiting Hillsden and hope you have enjoyed the read, NBodger hopes you will visit again soon.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 27, 2020, 09:11:53 PM
Like the 4f. What did the type 2 fail on ?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 27, 2020, 11:10:27 PM
Like the 4f. What did the type 2 fail on ?

Hi Chris

It ran out of coal  :no:

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 28, 2020, 08:24:21 PM
Hillsden Day 93

Well, another day for NBodger here in Hillsden, well what happened today?

After breakfast and a crossword over coffee, NBodger ventured into the jungle, well Mrs Nbodgers garden as did Mrs N and the cocker spaniel, Flo. Nbodgers job was to break up a rotten root from an old shrub, that had recently been removed from the front garden, which has just been re-turfed. Well NBodger set about his task, using various tools and brute force, after an hour bodger had finished and tidied up.  ::)

Unfortunately, by now Flo the cocker was causing trouble and Mrs N was rapidly getting annoyed, and believe me you donít want to be around when she is annoyed, so NBodger went back inside and took Flo with him, anything to keep the peace.  :doh:

What happened in Hillsden today, in fact not a lot to show for spending all afternoon working on Hillsden, however, it all helps to get closer to the finish line.

First NBodger got energetic and finally got around to sawing some wood to form supports for the uncoupling test track, to allow the test electromagnet to be installed, didnít help that NBodger caught his top on the saw and ripped it  :censored:, Mrs N was not amused as she now has it to repair. The timber supports are now attached awaiting NBodger to get a move on and get this uncoupling testing complete and make a decision.

Next old bodger got on with the workshop stores, building racking for storing materials from microstrip and sheet plastikard, to date he has built three racks out of a total of six required, also roller shutter doors and lentils have been added to the doorways, these have been modelled partially open, enough to allow access for a forklift and people.

The photograph below shows the state of the building tonight, the racks are not fixed as they require painting and filling first, but give you the impression of what the finished building will look like. Still plenty of work to do, it will probably take two or more weeks to complete, working on and off. NBodger likes a lot of different small projects on the go at once to save getting bored and in a rut, as they saying goes variety is the spice of life.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-280720201238-975432198.jpeg)

NBodger has also been undertaking landscaping to various small areas, well today he undertook a little more work to bushes and undergrowth and the like. He also did some more work to the gardens, see photograph below of where he is at with the gardens, still a lot more to do, before we see flowers and vegetables in the garden. NBodger is really looking forward to creating the detail in the gardens, which hopefully will bring the scene to life.  ::)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-280720201238-975441413.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-280720201237-975241658.jpeg)

NBodger keeps looking back through the Hillsden thread and comparing photographs of Hillsden with how it is now, and is really pleased that the town is starting to come to life, hope you agree.


In yesterdayís post we had the 4F taking over from the Sulzer Type 2, Well just a fraction of a second after that photograph was taken, a Peak Class 44 passed in the opposite direction, NBodger was quick with his camera and caught the two trains in the frame. Here are the results  :camera:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-280720201237-97524575.jpeg)

Well folks that is it for today, hope you have enjoyed your visit to Hillsden, please come back soon, you will always get a warm Yorkshire welcome.

Stay safe


Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 28, 2020, 08:30:38 PM
Structures look great mike. The stores with the shutters caught my eye, but reading on. Wow. Those cottages will be even more detailled once the garden work has been completed
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on July 29, 2020, 06:35:49 AM
Structures look great mike. The stores with the shutters caught my eye, but reading on. Wow. Those cottages will be even more detailled once the garden work has been completed
I agree totally  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on July 29, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Thank you for these fabulous photographs, Mike.

The layout is really coming to life.  The signals certainly enhance the viaduct scene.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 29, 2020, 02:13:57 PM
Thank you @crewearpley40 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3894) , @Innovationgame (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091) and @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222) for your encouraging comments, very much appreciated. I am certainly very pleased with its transformation achieved over the last six months and over the moon with comments received from all on the Forum.

Thanks again

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 29, 2020, 08:17:56 PM
Hillsden Day 94

NBodger did a silly thing yesterday, offered to get up early with the cocker spaniel and take her out, normally this is 7:30am but this morning the cocker came looking for me at 6:00am, much to early for NBodger. But what got the bodger was the fact she knew it was me taking her out, must have overheard the conversation the previous evening.  :doh:

So, 6:30am was yawning whilst trudging along the banks of the Humber, returning home very tired at 7:45am, couldnít believe it, NBodger is supposed to be retired.  ???

Had a late breakfast then cut the lawn at the back of the house, all intermingled with copious amounts of black coffee with sugar, by the time bodger had finished it was lunch time.

Also, at this time we got a call from our daughter, telling us she was coming round in the afternoon with granddaughter, so, this blew a hole in Nbodgers plans, now where have you heard that before, they finally left just before 5:00pm.  :(

Tomorrow is a different day and NBodger has the whole afternoon to himself, so his plan is railway and watching the cricket, he is getting quite good at that, so really looking forward to tomorrow afternoon. At least I know that Mrs N wonít come back early as NBodger is taking her there and going to collect her later, amazing how traffic builds up around here, causing NBodger to be late picking Mrs N up  :D

Well you have probably gathered NBodger didnít get to do much work on Hillsden, so, what did he get done.

NBodger did a little bit more grass seeding to the gardens he has been creating, but still a lot more to do.

Well finally drilled a hole for the electromagnet in the uncoupling test track board, which is now elevated, so hopefully tomorrow NBodger can fit the magnet and wire it up, so testing can then commence.

Also, NBodger did a small amount of work to the new stores building, strengthening the unsupported walls around the door opening to help them keep their shape and prevent them from warping. Also commenced painting the inside of the building which will allow the storage racks to be installed.

As you can see not a lot done, but will continue to do a little more this evening.

Todayís photograph is of the goods yard area, showing the Drewery shutter manoeuvring vans to the goods shed for unloading / loading. In the forefront of the picture is the yard crane, which is a Knightwing kit, which still requires the painting and weathering finished and finally fixed in place.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-290720200815-97597104.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-290720200815-975972421.jpeg)

Also below is yesterdays picture, but from a different angle

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-290720200816-976001572.jpeg)

Also thought I would bring you an updated photo of Mill Lane, to show how that view is changing

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-290720200816-97600419.jpeg)

Sorry but only a short post this evening, hopefully more to report on tomorrow, hope you have enjoyed your short visit to Hillsden and visit again soon

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 29, 2020, 08:21:40 PM
Simply wonderful views mike. I hope that tomorrow hillsden work jobs can be achieved. Simply that knightwing goods yard crane looks just perfectly posed
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 29, 2020, 08:23:12 PM
So, 6:30am was yawning whilst trudging along the banks of the Humber, returning home very tired at 7:45am, couldnít believe it, NBodger is supposed to be retired.  ???

You were tired.  Then you were tired again.  Re-tired.  Simples ;)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on July 30, 2020, 07:40:21 AM
So, 6:30am was yawning whilst trudging along the banks of the Humber, returning home very tired at 7:45am, couldnít believe it, NBodger is supposed to be retired.  ???

You were tired.  Then you were tired again.  Re-tired.  Simples ;)
Anyone who is re-tyred must tread carefully. :-[
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on July 30, 2020, 07:59:45 AM
The Drewery photos are great, but I'm not sure about the overhead shot. The lighting shows the coal in the tender to be most definitely plastic!  ;) :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 30, 2020, 09:14:18 AM
The Drewery photos are great, but I'm not sure about the overhead shot. The lighting shows the coal in the tender to be most definitely plastic!  ;) :beers:

George @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255)

That is because it is plastic.  :doh:


Just trying to wind me up and provoke a response, well you have.  :no:
It has always been my intention since starting the layout to weather all the stock, put real coal in the tenders and diesel in the diesels but after nearly 30 years of building the layout it is still on the too do list.

Mike H  :P

PS I have the coal lumps already, stored in the railway room, they are lumps that fell off the trains heading from the docks to Drax power station.

I may yet change those trees!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on July 30, 2020, 10:33:28 AM
 :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:

I have a heap of locos with plastic coal.

As you say, it's one of those round tuit jobs.

I'm starting to get used to those trees!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on July 30, 2020, 11:33:04 AM
:laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:

I have a heap of locos with plastic coal.

As you say, it's one of those round tuit jobs.

I'm starting to get used to those trees!  :thumbsup:

If you need a round tuit I have one spare from when I cut out the hole for my turntable  :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 30, 2020, 09:39:05 PM
Hillsden Day 95

As planned Mrs N took the cocker spaniel Flo out for her morning walk and I am afraid that NBodger slept in, eventually having breakfast around 9:30. Well that was a first for a long time.  :sleep:

NBodger was looking forward to his day as Mrs N was out for the afternoon, giving him time to get plenty of work done on Hillsden.  ::)

During the morning old NBodger did a few household chores, without being told to, so all was well in the Bodger household.

After lunch whilst Mrs N was getting ready to go out, NBodger slipped quietly down the garden path to Hillsden, where he added liquid fertiliser to the grass areas sown yesterday, well in this case the fertiliser was diluted PVA with a touch of Mrs Nís washing up liquid. This was only a ten minute task, but it was one ticked off the list for today.  ::)

Next bodger took Mrs N to our daughters in Cottingham, we left home at 1:00pm instead of 1:30pm, this day was really falling into bodger s hands, twenty five minutes each way, back in time for the one day international cricket match against Ireland. When Mrs N was dropped off she requested to be picked up at 5:00pm, even better that was half an hour later than had been planned.  ::)

So what else did old bodger do when he got home besides watching the cricket.

First task was on the workshop he has been building, the majority of the building was given a first coat of paint, this included internal brickwork, internal and external timber cladding and the asbestos cement roof, these areas will require a second coat and weathering, but the building looks better already. NBodger plonked the building in Thornbers yard in Hillsden, and moved it around to a satisfactory location, these is a problem with the yard there is unfortunately a dip in the concrete slab, so Bodger found a spot where a little bit of remedial work to the building and it should sit well. NBodger is now pleased with the building and will utilise it in lieu of consigning it to the bin. This is while NBodger advocates leaving something in place for a few days to see if it really fits in and make sure you are happy with it.  ::)

Next NBodger finished off the racking for the inside of the building, well nearly, shelves still need adding to three of the racks. These now need finishing, fettling so they fit in their intended position, the painting and materials for storage adding, before finally fixing in place, this will take a few days of work before complete.  ::)

See pictures below regarding current state of workshop

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-300720212409-97651522.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-300720212411-976601972.jpeg)

After that NBodger had only around 45 minutes before he had to set off on his chauffeuring duties, so he set too installing the electro magnet in place on the test track, and wired it up complete with push to make switch and connected it to a 12v DC supply courtesy of a Triang controller purchased for Christmas in 1965.  ???

On testing all performed well, the coach coupling needs fettling slightly, but fingers crossed will work well. Need to perform more tests but starting to look good, may get there yet. If I chose the electromagnet option the I will need to remove three permanent magnets installed many years ago in the early days of Hillsden, which will cause a little mess and disruption.  ???

I have been giving some thought about powering the magnets and I might wire them up on a completely separate power feed to make things easy, the switches are only required in the salve panel and not the main panel, so that makes things easier, but early days yet.  :hmmm:

So, after picking up an intoxicated Mrs N and staying at daughters for tea finally got home at 8:30pm, hence writing this late, but I did get to see Englandís innings on the big screen instead of my iPad. Another good win for England.

I havenít had time to get back to Hillsden to capture a train with my camera, so dug out the archives. A4 and V2 meet at Hillsden station. Apologies if i have posted this photograph before.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-300720212409-976511342.jpeg)

Hope you have enjoyed todays visit to Nbodgers Yorkshire town of Hillsden, and you have enjoyed your time here. Look forward to you visiting again.

Stay safe

Mike H
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 30, 2020, 09:42:37 PM
Hope that the triang controller still works. My H and M still works after 36 years
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 31, 2020, 09:05:13 AM
Hope that the triang controller still works. My H and M still works after 36 years

Yes it still works, but not very good on the controlled side, uncontrolled outputs are absolutely fine. I also have a H and M Duette which is around 50 plus years old, that still works and at present is at the railway club being used for track testing on our new layout until the proper control panel and wiring is done.

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Bealman on July 31, 2020, 09:15:52 AM
My 1963 vintage Triang P5 still powers half of the Castle Eden branch!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 31, 2020, 08:05:22 PM
Hillsden Day 96

NBodger was up early this morning to take Flo the cocker spaniel for her morning walk, it was already very warm and sunny at 7:00am, so she needed to have her walk before it got too hot.

Walking along the banks of the Humber there was not a cloud in sight, and only a very slight breeze.

When NBodger got back he collapsed in a chair and had to cool down before making any breakfast, Mrs N was still fast asleep, obviously the alcohol from her afternoon outing yesterday.  :doh:

So NBodger had toast and butter and a couple of black coffees, the dog was back in her cage so she had breakfast in bed and had her usual pate on toast.

Whilst making breakfast, Old bodger nipped into Hillsden and switched the fan on, he had decided to spend the morning working in the town, whilst it was still cool there and the fan would create an additional cool breeze.  ::)

So straight after breakfast NBodger disappeared to Hillsden, not to be seen again until lunch time, who says a man is not ruled by his stomach, Mrs N does because she thinks she rules everything, wait a minute, she does.  :hmmm:

What did old bodger get up too during these two hours of total isolation in down town Hillsden. Well first he had to empty and clean the mini vacuum cleaner as its filters were full of debris and lost suction, when back together he hovered the gardens and surrounding area removing any stray flock.

Then bodger planted some more small pieces of clump foliage along one of the fence lines, only the odd pieces which has made quite a difference to the appearance, however, still more to fix in place.

He also planted up a flower bed, along the border adjacent the end terrace house, this area already had topsoil in it, so NBodger added some course green scatter sparingly to represent the leaves and stems followed by some light blue flower head scatter, when it all looked reasonable it was soaked with diluted PVA and left to dry. Will check later to see what it looks like and adjust as necessary. Well if ok the this will be the first small area of planting done to the gardens, fingers crossed. There will be no update photographs of the gardens until at least one garden is complete, so at Bodgers pace it could be a long wait.

By now it was getting very warm and the heat hating bodger was starting to perspire, so withdrew back into the house for lunch.

After lunch old bodger disappeared upstairs to his work bench, where he started work on the stores building, painting various elements, the roof and timber cladding were both given their second coat of paint, looks as though the roof may need to have a third coat, followed by a fourth coat slapped on and talcum powder sprinkled over as part of the weathering.

Also, the three complete shelf units were given their first coat of wood coloured paint, a second coat will need to be applied when dry.

Later bodger had a look at the remote uncoupling test, worked fine at first, then bodger decided to remove one of the tiny magnets from the carriage he was using, on test there was not enough power to lift the coupling, so the magnet was replaced and again lack of power, strange NBodger thought. So disappointed NBodger switched the power off to reflect on the situation, however he put the power on and tested another vehicle which was ok, so retested the coach, it worked better but not quite as good as it was, so it is sounding like the old transformer is playing up, so bodger gave up for the day. Next, he will test the output with a meter, but he is fairly convinced that is the problem. This means that bodger hasnít got another power source available for testing other than the main control panel, which is not ideal. His other controller is 35 miles away in Grimsby at the North Lincs Area Group clubroom, where it is being used to test the track and points on their new layout, whilst waiting for the layout to be fully wired, obviously NBodger hasnít been near the place since lockdown.  :doh:

It has been a busy day on Hillsden for old bodger, that is two consecutive days, could be a third tomorrow if the weather holds out.

He did manage today to fit in taking some new photographs, hope you enjoy.  :camera:

We have English Electric Type 4 (Class 40), these were introduced in 1958, tonightís photograph has them hauling Thompson coaches in Blood and Custard and Gresleys in Maroon, anything wrong with this?  ???

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-310720195551-976931246.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-310720195551-976931525.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-310720195553-977011109.jpeg)

Perhaps Rule 1 Applies  :hmmm:

Well thatís all for today, hope you have enjoyed your visit to Hillsden, a little bit of fantasy Yorkshire, look forward to seeing you again.

Meanwhile Stay Safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 31, 2020, 08:08:06 PM
Love today's story and the type 4 mike. As usual thanks . Now I can see the light in the room which I guess was on the trees but now is shining on the 40
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on July 31, 2020, 08:17:42 PM
So.....Iím confused. Itís a common problem  :-[
Who had the pate on toast?
Was it Flo or Mrs N Bodger?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 31, 2020, 08:22:14 PM
NBodger was up early this morning to take Flo the cocker spaniel for her morning walk, it was already very warm and sunny at 7:00am, so she needed to have her walk before it got too hot.

Today we bought Molly the Sprocker Spaniel a rigid paddling pool to play in. Partly to help keep her cool but mainly just spoiling her as sheís our only dog now. Great fun watching her trying to retrieve her submerged bone without getting wet, though :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 31, 2020, 08:30:21 PM
So.....I’m confused. It’s a common problem  :-[
Who had the pate on toast?
Was it Flo or Mrs N Bodger?

Flo of course, Mrs N was still asleep.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on July 31, 2020, 08:35:31 PM
NBodger was up early this morning to take Flo the cocker spaniel for her morning walk, it was already very warm and sunny at 7:00am, so she needed to have her walk before it got too hot.

Today we bought Molly the Sprocker Spaniel a rigid paddling pool to play in. Partly to help keep her cool but mainly just spoiling her as sheís our only dog now. Great fun watching her trying to retrieve her submerged bone without getting wet, though :D

Does that mean Molly is double daft as springers and cockers are both daft, we have had both. Flo cools down on her walk as there are fresh water watercourses we pass before getting to the tidal Humber.

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 31, 2020, 08:46:14 PM
Does that mean Molly is double daft as springers and cockers are both daft, we have had both. Flo cools down on her walk as there are fresh water watercourses we pass before getting to the tidal Humber.

Difficult to measure with any degree of precision, but Iíd say at least double :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 31, 2020, 10:33:53 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
The photos of the Class 40 looking superb, if you like it, run it  :thumbsup:  :beers:
  stay safe regards Derek.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 01, 2020, 01:44:02 PM
Love today's story and the type 4 mike. As usual thanks . Now I can see the light in the room which I guess was on the trees but now is shining on the 40

Thanks Chris,

Yes the light is a permanent problem, until Hillsden gets its own lighting system. It is particularly bad when taking photoís as they are all taken at a very slow shutter speed to avoid using flash or additional lighting, this means that the light coloured trees absorb more light and donít look natural.

I actually see in normal lighting conditions a lot darker colour than is seen in the photographs, admittedly the trees are a light colour but not like the photoís.

Mike H
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 01, 2020, 01:50:58 PM
If it's a window in a room / loft mike. Can one not instal a roll up down blind to aide photography and any direct hotvdunbeams shining directly on the layout ? I installed a small couple I found on the net which does  help if the sun is eye piercingly bright
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 01, 2020, 08:10:09 PM
Hillsden Day 97

Luckily a little bit cooler today for some, but not for old Bodger, he couldnít use the heat as an excuse to work on Hillsden all day, Mrs N put her foot down and gave me a list of chores. I tried putting my foot down, but the list kept getting longer every time I complained.  :doh: :doh:

Well Bodger thought there is both cricket and Grand Prix qualifying on in the afternoon, so better get this list done as quickly as possible, well by lunch time at the latest, which NBodger just managed.  ::)

In the afternoon Mrs N decided she would sit on her sun lounger in the garden and enjoy the son, yes NBodger had to get the sun lounger out, not one lounger but two, no the additional one is not for Bodger, itís for, wait for it, Flo the cocker spaniel.  :no:

So, the not so cunning NBodger disappeared upstairs to his work bench and spent a peaceful couple of hours undertaking more work on the workshop. Today he has finished building the materials racks and finished painting four of them with the remaining four getting their first coat of paint. Yesterday evening NBodger gave the building walls further coats of paint, the internal brickwork is now finished but for the mortar, external brickwork requires a second coat plus mortar and the timber cladding is finished but for weathering.

So, bodger will soon have to make items to fit on the racking

Also, he had another quick look at the uncoupling, all seems to be working fine, uncoupling 100% reliable on Peco wagons, but around 50% on coaches. Nbodger will probably have a play with the Gaugemaster (ex Seep) fret next. He is however 100% certain that he will get one system working satisfactory.

As he had done all of his list of chores NBodger thought he would indulge and play trains for an hour, this was with Mrs Nís permission of course, however, as a consequence he had to cook tea.  :(

Whilst running trains NBodger did a little bit of filming for a change, so here it is, there is some bad running and poor lighting which bodger apologises for, with stock jumping, this is because Nbodger didnít notice the board was slightly out of alignment, probably because old bodger has done a lot of work in that area recently and knocked them. Since the session old bodger has sorted the problem.  :doh:

Enjoy




Well that is it for this Saturday evening, hope you have enjoyed your visit. Nbodger also hopes that you will visit again in the near future.

Stay safe

Mike H  8) 8)

PS Nbodger is out tomorrow so may not have time to create a post, thank goodness I hear you all cheer, just depends what time he gets home from a family BBQ
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 01, 2020, 08:13:10 PM
Hi mike. The couplings are pretty reliable with peco. By the way, the video is difficult to show, sorry
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 01, 2020, 08:18:22 PM
By the way, the video is difficult to show, sorry

Chris, what do you mean?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 01, 2020, 08:21:52 PM
Click on the video and it says video unavailable. Would have been a joy to watch. Is it youtube clip mike ?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on August 01, 2020, 08:28:32 PM
Excellent little video Mike and a jolly nice tune as well.
Enjoy your BBQ tomorrow.

Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 01, 2020, 08:29:46 PM
Click on the video and it says video unavailable. Would have been a joy to watch. Is it youtube clip mike ?

Chris, Try again, should be ok, I had forgot to save it as public use
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 01, 2020, 08:36:50 PM
I echo martin's words and it's a pleasant one with a super variety of 60s motive power. Hope mick @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) will enjoy it as much as we have so far
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on August 01, 2020, 08:44:18 PM
Excellent video Mick.  :thumbsup: . Is the camera mounted on a tripod or a 'bodge' support?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on August 01, 2020, 09:08:26 PM
Many thanks, Mike.  That's a very nice film.  Lots 'n' lots of lovely locomotives (and some diesels).  I particularly enjoyed the 'going away' 'Horwich Mogul' at just after a minute.  It's a marvellous model.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 01, 2020, 09:14:53 PM
Excellent video Mick.  :thumbsup: . Is the camera mounted on a tripod or a 'bodge' support? :D

Hi David,

Have you been talking to Mrs N as you are now calling me Mick, the family name  ;D

Yes the camera is mounted on a tripod, as I wouldnít trust bodger with it

Mike H (but you can call me Mick, I donít mind)   :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on August 01, 2020, 10:10:06 PM
Jeepers, Mike, but the poor signalman must be hearing bell codes in his sleep!! ;)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 01, 2020, 10:32:56 PM
 :hellosign:
  Superb video Mike. agree your couplers must be bullet proof. Happy Yorkshire Day   :thumbsup:   :beers:
    stay safe regards Derek.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 03, 2020, 05:28:37 PM
Hillsden Days 98 and 99

Sorry to disappoint you all but after a day away from the Forum, unfortunately for you all I am back, donít worry you will soon get a whole two week break from me at the beginning of September as Mrs N and myself will be having a little holiday, not too far away but on the coast, just north of Filey. By the way Flo the cocker is coming too, she is a different dog since the passing of her big sister, she is obviously missing her and confused, with regards to where she has gone.  :doh:

With that holiday in mind old bodger needs to get together some work to do on an evening, as we will not be eating out or attending pubs, Mrs N has already informed me she is taking her watercolour paints with her, I am thinking of taking a few wagon kits to build, but how many, do I need to buy some more, should I take paints, questions all these questions. Well I have four weeks or so to get myself sorted.  :hmmm:

Yesterday was a wonderful relaxing day as a family we were all together for the first time, since before Christmas, with all three of our children with their spouses / partners. We had a lovely cooked BBQ, the day was that good Mrs N is a little worse for wear after the cocktails she was drinking, I am afraid NBodger had to stay on the soft drinks.  :doh:

Of course we had Flo with us as well, she has never been on her own ever, so someone had to take he out for a little walk, well, that was bodger of course, as we were in Cottingham, bodger took Flo for a walk down by wait for it, the railway and Cottingham station area in particular, surveying what was intact from its heyday. Around twenty plus years ago, the railway club bodger was a member of at the time was looking to built a layout of Cottingham in 4mm scale though to continue the local scene theme we were at time adopting alongside the already under construction model of Hessle which was in N. The project never got started and Hessle never got completed, I understand it was dismantled after I left that particular club, which is still going today and I am minded to rejoin them at some stage, as when I meet any of them, they all ask when are you coming to see us.

Anyway, I digress.

Not a great deal has happened on Hillsden since my last post but, old bodger has temporarily sorted the baseboard joint that caused the problems in Saturdays video. Due to bodgers very good bodgiting (yes this is derogatory term) skills of so called joinery a double layer of plastic material had been inserted to raise one of the boards at the joint, this little fix had become dislodged and lost, hence the problem, the temporary, temporary fix involves a quarter inch wood chisel, wedged on the board until a permanent solution is invoked. Yes, there has been way too much bodging going on.

A little bit more gardening has gone on, the flower border planted on Saturday, looked a little bit dull, so more leaves have been added along with some lovely lilac flowers to complement the pale blue, all looks rather magical, it has even got the approval of Mrs N, however, in the same breath she did utter the words ďcanít you plant up a half barrel and place that in the garden as well. I thought how good do you think bodgers skills are, please donít answer that. The upshot is NBodger has now to create a N Gauge flower tub from a barrel, help!!!!

A shrub has also been planted in one of the gardens, bodger attempted to red flower flock to it but failed, however will now resort to blobs of watercolour to achieve this. Gardening to N Gauge is all very new to bodger, so a lot of experimenting with the material he has to get a reasonable result, hence taking time.

The racks to the store he has been building are now complete, just need fixing in place, but again detail work that is slow is taking a lot of time, so will be a little while before the building is plonked in Hillsden.

Other than a garden shed or two there is only one plot of land in Hillsden, that requires a building erected, this is along Burnley Road and is the triangular plot above the goods yard, that bodger has ear marked as a used car sales area. So bodger has started developing ideas on paper for this area, which will comprise a small car servicing workshop, plus sales and admin office, leaving an area for second hand cars which are for sale to be displayed. In the next one or two days bodger will have some up with a completed working drawing and will commence construction.

Well that is as far as we have got in the development of Hillsden, everything is now quite slow to finish.

On bodgers workbench there are some very nice station seats from those nice people at York Model Rail, that require constructing, they are quite small and delicate, bodger did build around six of them last summer, which he had to develop a jig to help in the construction, unfortunately these six now need rebuilding as something by someone was put on top of them, we do have a no blame culture here in Hillsden.

Well bodger was down early this morning at Hillsden station and managed to get a glimpse of the local commuter train arrive into the bay platform four, this consisted of three suburban coaches in maroon and was hauled on this occasion by a Fairburn tank, bunker first. Bodger managed to get his camera ready and was able to photograph the process of the locomotive being uncoupled and the train being readied for departure


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-030820170120-978022041.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-030820170118-97783504.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-030820170118-977831696.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-030820170120-978021792.jpeg)


Again, thank you for viewing, hope you have enjoyed your visit and return again soon


Meanwhile Stay Safe

Mike H  8) 8)

PS Got permission from Mrs N to purchase some more wagon kits  ::)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 03, 2020, 05:33:07 PM
Mike. I'm.glad the authorities have given permission to purchase more stock. Keep up the good work
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on August 04, 2020, 09:26:08 AM
Thank you for these excellent photographs, Mike.

The first one shows your particularly realistic curved platforms to especially good effect.

The others, from a lower viewing angle rather remind me of the K&WVR for some reason.

Thanks again and best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 04, 2020, 09:53:06 AM
Thank you for these excellent photographs, Mike.

The first one shows your particularly realistic curved platforms to especially good effect.

The others, from a lower viewing angle rather remind me of the K&WVR for some reason.

Thanks again and best wishes.

John

John @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222)

Thank you for your kind comments very much appreciated.

I have recently reduced the quality of the photographs I have taken, to save space and allow the posting of more views, I think this is a detriment to the photoís. For instance the last photograph which is my favourite at its full quality you can read the engine number on the smoke box door and the carriages have a better definition. I think in future I will go for quality instead of quantity.

You say the photoís remind you of KWVR, I know what you mean, but for me it is a setting of most preserved lines, seeing a loco moved from one end of the train to the other.

I am rapidly running out of safe areas to take the ground shots as detail gets completed, will need a cantilevered support soon like like Roger of Wrenton fame.

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 04, 2020, 07:29:14 PM
Hillsden Day 100

What an odd day today weather wise, had a lovely walk along the banks of the Humber with Flo the cocker spaniel, it was very warm and sunny, but as the morning went on the day got colder, damp at times and later the wind became stronger.

Old bodger managed to get the front and back lawns cut, whilst it was still warm, he also decimated a few flowers with the mower, well Mrs N has been told not to plant her border plants near the front as they grow over the grass, so bodger held no prisoners.  :worried:

NBodger also did a little gardening in Hillsden, planting up a border or two, plus laying a little turf around the terraced houses in Sunnybank. Also started to sort out the potato runs in one of the gardens, chips all round later in the year. Well it was tiring work so bodger finished in time for lunch.  ::)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-040820190610-978441993.jpeg)

A sneak look at one of the gardens, through the boundary fence.

Bodger also had video chats with friends from County Durham during the morning, then with members of The North Lincs Area Group in the afternoon, well that took two hours of the day.

The third international one day cricket match between England and Ireland was on television in the afternoon, so bodger was watching this on his iPad whilst doing a little more work for Hillsden.

Nbodger spent most of the afternoon working on the stores building for Thornbers yard, work included applying a second coat of paint to the external brickwork and weathering to the timber cladding, both internal and external

He has also cut some 10tho plastikard into numerous sheets of ply to form, materials for the yards and racking, similarly with microstrip formed some bundles of timber for also stacking on the racks, as I have stated before photographs will follow when the building is finally plonked in Hillsden.
Bodger was again at Hillsden station this morning with his camera, he was a little later this morning as the commuter train was all but turned round and ready for departure. Well Nbodger came through the booking Hall onto platform two, saw what was happening and ran down to the footbridge, crossed the main lines and again ran along platform four to get the following photographs  :camera:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-040820190605-97840836.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-040820190605-978401403.jpeg)

Sorry folks but that is all for todays visit to Hillsden, hope you have enjoyed being in Yorkshire and return soon.

Stay safe

Mike H  8) 8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on August 04, 2020, 07:49:47 PM
I like the garage Mike - it is just like one I had years ago, until we had a gale one night and it was virtually demolished! One question though, what sort of calendar are you using, your days are not following on?  90 follows 88 and 89, but 88 and 89 do not follow 97.  ??? Have you gone from the Gregorian calendar back to the Julian?  ;)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on August 04, 2020, 07:53:41 PM
Well Nbodger came through the booking Hall onto platform two, saw what was happening and ran down to the footbridge, crossed the main lines and again ran along platform four to get the following photographs  :camera:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-040820190605-97840836.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-040820190605-978401403.jpeg)


Take it steady with all this running malarkey, Mike ;)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 04, 2020, 08:09:46 PM
I like the garage Mike - it is just like one I had years ago, until we had a gale one night and it was virtually demolished! One question though, what sort of calendar are you using, your days are not following on?  90 follows 88 and 89, but 88 and 89 do not follow 97.  ??? Have you gone from the Gregorian calendar back to the Julian?  ;)

I use the Dyslexic Calendar, or i have borrowed the doctors TARDIS, it was bound to happen one day, anyway it is day 100 Today, I think.

Thanks David @dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) for pointing out the error of my ways

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on August 04, 2020, 08:44:55 PM
Actually, I thought it might have been some sort of time warp, but happy 100 Mike - here's to the next 100.  :beers:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 04, 2020, 09:28:32 PM
100 happy days mike. Sorry been extremely busy and love the drivers eye views. They really capture the loco and the atmosphere
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 04, 2020, 10:16:08 PM
Take it steady with all this running malarkey, Mike ;)

Iím worried heís turning into a Spaniel ;)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Stevie DC on August 05, 2020, 09:06:55 AM
Hi Mike,

I'm really enjoying reading through this thread and think the layout looks excellent. However, I am concerned about possible retribution following the unfortunate 'accident' involving the mower and Mrs N's plants.  :o
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 05, 2020, 09:36:31 AM

Take it steady with all this running malarkey, Mike ;)

Itís ok Mick @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)
No Bodgers were hurt during the photo session, when I said ran, it was a little bit of an exaggeration.  ;)

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 05, 2020, 09:45:28 AM
Take it steady with all this running malarkey, Mike ;)

Iím worried heís turning into a Spaniel ;)

Cavalier, Cocker or Springer?  :no:
Or perhaps just a bodger

Mike H   ???
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 05, 2020, 09:50:22 AM
However, I am concerned about possible retribution following the unfortunate 'accident' involving the mower and Mrs N's plants.  :o

Truth is I am too  :help:

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 05, 2020, 09:51:58 AM
Just caught up with this thread after a nightmare day yesterday. The curved platforms add to the scene and impressive scenics. Look forward to more tonight.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on August 05, 2020, 09:55:22 AM
However, I am concerned about possible retribution following the unfortunate 'accident' involving the mower and Mrs N's plants.  :o

Truth is I am too  :help:


No problem Mike, just tell Mrs N that she was warned so it is all her own fault. (Make sure your escape route is planned in advance). If things go quiet for a while, we will know why.  ;)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 05, 2020, 06:39:25 PM
Hillsden Day 101 (I think, but could be wrong)

Well who was lucky today, NBodger, he got a lie in as Mrs N took the dog out for her walk, well I later found out it was half a walk, I am afraid no ball chasing for Flo.  ::)

Because Mrs N had got up early with the dog on return she decided she was going back to sleep for an hour, this was 9:30am but didnít see her again until just after noon, an hour indeed. Well this curtailed what bodger could do in the morning as he was left dog sitting. He did manage to do the odd household tasks, but also, he managed to mark out on plastikard, the walls and floor to the new second hand car sales he has drawn up over the last two days.  ::)

After lunch bodger took Flo out for a very short walk, she got very excited, as we got to the gate, she looked back at the Ballard then me, I told her no later we are only going to the end of the road, finally she came with me however when we got to where I was taking her on this occasion, she would not turn back, but sat and stared at me, telling bodger she wanted to carry on, so bodger ignored her and took her home. By the way Bodger did take her out for a little over an hour run, with ball, later in the afternoon.  ::)

Well what else did NBodger get up too, anything more done on Hillsden?

He did try to do a little bit more gardening at Sunnybank, but it had got quite warm there, do bodger departed back into the house.

NBodger had since 11:00 am being watching the test match of course and continued to watch as much as he could, whilst doing a little work on Hillsden. Well during the afternoon old bodger has coloured the mortar on the stores building and given the plywood sheets and timber lengths cut out yesterday, a first coat of colour. Would you believe that took over two hours, probably taken somebody, not mentioning names, about five minutes?

Well some good news for Bodger he has escaped any retribution for mowing the flowers, as Mrs N obviously got the hint and spent the afternoon sorting the flower borders, cutting back as required, phew!!!!  :thumbsup:

Mind you Mrs N did say when she had finished, doesnít the garden look tidy with neat borders, the only problem with this was the knowingly smile on her face as she said it. Bodger thought I think I got away with it but not quite sure.  ???

Well today old bodger after being breathless running down the platform, caught an earlier bus to Hillsden Station. As he had plenty of time, he alighted the bus the stop prior to the station and had a little wander to see if he could get a photograph of the 12:30 goods train, recently this has been diesel hauled usually a Sulzer Type 2, but was hauled it today.

Bodger scrambled up the embankment, yes, he was trespassing, but was it worth it.  :hmmm:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-050820183116-978452442.jpeg)

Today it was hauled by Ivatt 2MT Mogul

Sorry but that is all for todayís visit, NBodger hopes you have enjoyed you visit and looks forward to seeing you again, soon.

Please stay safe

Mike H  8) 8)


Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 05, 2020, 06:42:47 PM
Another stunning view and shows the gradients and life in hillsden
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 05, 2020, 07:16:54 PM
Gets about, does that 46460 ;)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 05, 2020, 07:39:02 PM
Gets about, does that 46460 ;)

Yes I seem to remember seeing it in Shropshire recently, may even have been yesterday

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on August 05, 2020, 07:46:11 PM
Gets about, does that 46460 ;)

Yes I seem to remember seeing it in Shropshire recently, may even have been yesterday

Mike H  8)
Just been upstairs to check on mine in case it had done a runner  but itís 46443.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 06, 2020, 10:22:47 AM

I'm really enjoying reading through this thread and think the layout looks excellent.

Steve @Stevie DC (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=213)

A little bit belated, I am glad you are enjoying the thread and thank you for your kind words,  very much appreciated.

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: joe cassidy on August 06, 2020, 11:57:36 AM
I'm looking forward to the film version of Hillsden.

Apparently Jason Statham is lined up to play the role of the hero.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on August 06, 2020, 12:16:24 PM
I'm looking forward to the film version of Hillsden.

Apparently Jason Statham is lined up to play the role of the hero.

Flo?  :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: joe cassidy on August 06, 2020, 12:21:32 PM
Does Lassie have great-great-great-grandchildren ?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 06, 2020, 01:05:53 PM
I'm looking forward to the film version of Hillsden.

Apparently Jason Statham is lined up to play the role of the hero.

Flo?  :D

Flo the raging cocker terrorises Hillsden

Unfortunately only have 5p towards the budget, donations welcomed for this blockbuster  :no:

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: joe cassidy on August 06, 2020, 04:18:10 PM
Seriously, I really look forward to my daily dose of news from Hillsden. Your modelling/photos are superb Mike, and you have a way with words that is very entertaining.

I hope you keep the story going as long as the Archers!

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 06, 2020, 07:37:19 PM
Hillsden Day 102

Walking along the banks of the Humber at around 7:30am with Flo the cocker spaniel, it is nearly high tide, bodger just caught the stern of the last boat of the tide in the distance, on its way to Goole. When we first moved to the area some thirty years plus ago, we used to see around twelve boats per tide, ie six in each direction, plus barges travelling from the River Trent. How things have changed over the years.

Well today it was very still, with little or no wind and the Humber was like a mill pond, very calm, however it was very warm and humid and it remained so for the day, with a few sunny intervals.

As you probably know NBodger doesn’t like the hot weather, unless he is by the sea with a long cold drink in hand, so how much was actually achieved in Hillsden today.

On bodgers first visit to Hillsden he did a little bit more gardening, a few rows of potatoes are now coming through, and one or two borders have flowers in bloom.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-060820193025-978991175.jpeg)

Another sneak preview of the gardens on Sunnybank

Bodger is taking his time with the gardens as they are founded on a card layer, which was glued in place with PVA, so bodger doesn’t want to wet the whole area at once with diluted PVA and run the risk of the whole area lifting, so is just undertaking small areas at a time.

Bodger has also fitted the racking to the stores building, which now leaves weathering and the racks filling, plus other odd little finishing jobs, before being finally plonked in place in Thornbers yard. The photo below shows the status of the building at present with a couple of items of clutter added, one item is one of the stacks of plywood sheets he has been making which needs its final colour applying plus weathering.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-060820193030-979161409.jpeg)

Does it look and fit in ok, bodger seems to think so when completed? This building is different from the way bodger normally works, he would normally bury the building at least 10mm below finished surface, but as the paving had already been completed it has to sit on a uneven surface, which will need a little bit of Google’s old fashioned bodging to disguise the problem areas.

As bodger stated yesterday he has been working on the second hand car lot, well today he has assembled the walls and floor to give an indication of what it will look like in its final position. So far it looks good to bodger, but judge for yourself in the two photographs below.

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(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-060820193028-97914702.jpeg)

Well it is possible we may not be going away on holiday now, Mrs N has decided that she only wants to go for a week, well in truth Bodger would have to travel back for one day to keep a hospital checkup appointment, which he doesn’t want to mess the hospital about as they are struggling to fit all patients in with limited appointments, this is a regular checkup he has every three months and is important that he doesn’t miss one. Or is this a ploy by Mrs N to stop bodger buying those kits, he was going to build on holiday.   :doh:

So Mrs N has been struggling to get through on the phone to change the booking, so she is now minded to cancel, which we have the option to do and go away for days. Well this could fall to old bodgers advantage, possibility of spending the saved money on, now let me think, which one, how many...  :hmmm:

Not taken any train pictures in Hillsden today, however, what happened yesterday after bodger took yesterday’s photo, no bodger didn’t get arrested for trespassing by the transport police. The goods train hauled by the the mogul had to stop in Hillsden Station as the signal was against it, as they had to wait for a local passenger train departed from platform 4. Well this gave bodger time to scramble from the embankment, along station road and the footpath from the station to Midgley Road Bridge, he again scrambled Dow the side of the cutting in the full view of the signalman, to take today’s photo. Well that might be it for Bodger, he is not going to get away with trespassing on the railway for a second time or his he, you will have to wait to find out  :uneasy:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-060820193025-978991148.jpeg)

Ivatt 2MT Mogul, a little further along from yesterday’s photograph as she passes below Midgley Road Bridge after the signalman gave them right of passage.

Thank you for visiting Hillsden today, hope you have enjoyed your visit and look forward to greeting you in bodgers little Yorkshire town very soon.

Please all stay safe

Mike H  8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on August 06, 2020, 07:56:41 PM
Looking at the first picture of the second hand car lot, I thought my eyes were getting worse  :goggleeyes:. Seeing it in its proposed location in the second picture, I can now see why it is the shape it is.  :thumbsup: Some nice modelling mike.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on August 06, 2020, 08:01:35 PM
Is it an optical illusion or is the car lot building wider on the right than the lft?
Or is it supposed to be like that?

The stores building looks fantastic.

Keep upthe splendid work.

Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on August 06, 2020, 08:02:59 PM
Ah.....Davidís reply has answered my question.
I should have studied the second picture more carefully  :dunce:

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on August 06, 2020, 08:07:01 PM
@port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230) Martin, having looked at the gardens in Mikes first picture, I think I see a pattern developing. (Maybe he should see about some new glasses  ???).
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on August 06, 2020, 08:24:53 PM
I think you're developing these odd shaped areas really well, Mike.
(Creep, I hear the others say)
Maybe an N gauge Swiss Tony outside the car showroom? ;)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on August 06, 2020, 08:29:42 PM
I think you're developing these odd shaped areas really well, Mike.
(Creep, I hear the others say)
Maybe an N gauge Swiss Tony outside the car showroom? ;)


Creep
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 06, 2020, 09:22:21 PM
Gents, @port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230) @dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)

Well first of all I had to google Swiss Tony  :doh: it was the original intention to name it Wormwoods from Ronald Dahlís Matilda.

The odd shaped plots and associated buildings are there purely to deceive the viewer so they donít notice Bodgers bodged workmanship.  ???

The beauty of scratch building is that you can design and build structures to fit awkward shapes, instead of leaving them bare.

Thanks for all your kind comments, much appreciated.

Oh by the way entertaining banter

Thank you

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 06, 2020, 09:34:33 PM
Another cracking drivers ' eye view mike
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 06, 2020, 11:18:07 PM
 :hellosign:
    Absolutely  :greatpicturessign: Mike & them buildings are progressing very nicely
    stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 07, 2020, 10:14:34 AM
Seriously, I really look forward to my daily dose of news from Hillsden. Your modelling/photos are superb Mike, and you have a way with words that is very entertaining.

I hope you keep the story going as long as the Archers!

Best regards,


Joe

Hi Joe,
Thank you for your kind words, very much appreciated.

I donít now about keeping it going as long as the Archers, that is a tall task on such a limited landscape, perhaps an extension is needed, but Mrs N will not allow it, the mere suggestion has already been frowned upon, so bodger has taken a few steps back for the time being.

In a limited landscape photo and story opportunities become limited, however, I am pondering ways to extend the storytelling and photographic challenges.

No doubt there will become a stage where it can no longer be a meaningful daily update without boring everybody and bodger repeating himself.

Again thank you

Mike H   8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 07, 2020, 08:23:58 PM
Hillsden Day 103

Today has been a very hot day in bodgerland, too warm for Bodger, who left it for Mrs N to take Flo for her morning run. Mind you bodger was woken early at 6:00am by Mrs N mobile phone alarm going off, where was it, in the kitchen, whatís the point of setting an alarm to wake you up and not taking to bed with you. Needless to say, bodger went back to bed until a reasonable time.  :sleep:

On Mrs N return from her walk, we had a cup of coffee and did a couple of crosswords together, Mrs N soon realised that we had done these to crosswords before, not that it made any difference to bodger, he was still struggling.  :doh:

As it was too hot and uncomfortable for old bodger he spent the day in the house and didnít venture out to Hillsden, he hopes it is a little cooler tomorrow.

Anyway, what happened today in old NBodgers world, not too much, but a little variety of small jobs for Hillsden.

The first job was to finish off the various timber and plywood boards for the scene around the workshop, these were given a lighter wood colour and dry brushed with a light grey and to finish them off, the wooden supports were given a weathered wood finish. These are all now complete and ready for plonking in Thornbers Yard.  ::)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-070820201625-9793539.jpeg)

Next job for Bodger was to build one of two garden sheds, for the gardens he is currently working on. The shed is a scale 6í x 4í and was quite a challenge for ham fisted bodger, but did get it finished, all it needs now is painting and weathering.  ::)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-070820201626-979392318.jpeg)
Bodger also intended to grow some runner beans today on a cane framework, but failed, it is now a job for another day, although yesterday evening he did manage to mound up some more potato rows in one of the gardens.  ???

Well as it hasnít been decided yet if bodger and Mrs N are going on holiday, crafty Bodger thought he would buy some kits, just in case, to give him something to do on a evening out in the wilderness of coastal North Yorkshire. In total he bought another seven wagons to build to go with the eighteen he already has, so the truth is he didnít need to buy anymore, but please donít tell Mrs N, I still have to break it to her how much bodger spent today.  :worried:

Old Bodger has been doing a little study today looking through old railway maps, he is trying to pinpoint where Hillsden lies on the network, he has a good idea as probably many of you have, when Bodger has completed his survey, all will be revealed.

As you all know from yesterday, NBodger went a wandering on the railway, yes trespassing, yes under the signalmanís nose, well did he get caught...

It just happens that the signalman was a Mr Glover who lived a No 2 Gladstone Buildings, who bodger new well and after taking the photographs had a quick cup of tea in the box with Glover the signalman, so all was well.

As part of yesterdayís outing bodger managed a couple more photographs of the Mogul, this time as it approached, Burnley Road Bridge, the second photo below is taken from below the bridge, where the first one is taken from the side of the cutting.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-070820201627-979401640.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-070820201625-97935324.jpeg)

Well thatís all from Bodgers antics today, hope you have enjoyed your stay and look forward to seeing you again hopefully tomorrow.

In the meantime, stay safe

Mike H  8)

PS will England pull off a victory in the test match?
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on August 07, 2020, 08:27:41 PM
Splendid photographs Mike. I particularly like the first one.

As for the test......a very interesting day tomorrow I think.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 07, 2020, 08:55:46 PM
I'm too in favour of the first photograph
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on August 07, 2020, 09:00:31 PM
Excellent photographs Mike.  :thumbsup: (And just to be awkward, I like the second picture more.  ;)).
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 08, 2020, 07:40:33 AM
 :greatpicturessign: I also prefer the second picture.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 08, 2020, 08:14:02 PM
Hillsden Day 104

Some good news today for all those who visit this thread, Bodger is definitely going on holiday in September for two weeks, in a caravan, just over an hour from home, with Mrs N, Flo the cocker and lots of waggon kits to build whilst he is away. You will be glad to hear he won’t be posting updates for that period, as he will only have his mobile phone, but will keep an eye on you all.  :)

Yes bodger sacrificed a couple of new locomotives he was hoping to purchase with the money saved from not going away, when he told Mrs N to stop moaning we are going on holiday as in the last twelve months we have had to cancel three holidays either due to bodger being ill or Covid.

You never know though, you may be unlucky, bodger could possibly post a couple of posts whilst away, or even come back early and surprise you all.

Well that’s the good news from the Bodger household, so what else has happened.

Bodger had a lovely walk early this morning with Flo, yes, you’ve guessed, along the banks of the Humber as usual. It was a lovely sunny morning with just a nice cooling breeze coming off the river. The tide was rising, but still had a long way to go to reach high tide, but the yachts were just starting to leave the haven, to get the benefit of sailing on the maximum length of tide, yes seen quite a few get stuck at the entrance to the haven, when they have returned too late.

On Bodgers return, Mrs N was going out to visit her friend in Cherry Burton, who had just popped down from Scotland for a few days to check on her cottage. Mrs N and bodger were not too bothered about Covid transmission as her friend lives on their own small estate complete with loch with no close neighbours and have been isolating.

So bodger had the morning to himself, so the intention was for him to get a decent amount of work done on Hillsden, well did he?

The answer is no, he did some little bits, like a bit of planting, had a go at making some runner beans, may end up as Tesco’s for these! Oh and he also built a second garden shed, this time with a pitched roof and end door, again on 6’ x 4’, any bigger and they would swamp the small gardens.

NBodger really had a day of sport, watching England’s victory in Test match against Pakistan and Grand Prix qualifying, race day tomorrow, so guess what bodger will be doing?  ::)

Also, bodger did a little more reading on the proposed location of Hillsden, he is certain where it is and is excited about the potential for lots of traffic on the layout to various parts of the country, via the many routes that were available prior to the Beeching cuts. There maybe a little licence required for one of the routes south to Kings Cross as bodger is not sure if there was a link or not onto the ex Great Northern line around Wakefield. Bodger is going to create a separate post with map, so you can agree or not if it is plausible.  :hmmm:

Well, around tea time bodger went out with his pocket camera and his Ian Allen Combined Volume, not trespassing this time as it was Mr Glover the signalman’s day off, but he did wander along the top of the cutting between Midgley Road and Burnley Road.

What did he capture today, well coming under Burnley Road Bridge was the 16:50 direct service to Kings Cross, one of only three direct daily services to the capital. Today it was hauled by A2 Pacific, Bachelors Button and consisted of Mk 1 coaching stock in maroon, however there was one in that new colour scheme of blue / grey, thow don’t see many of them round ere.

Bodger managed to take a few snaps, here are two of his favourites for you to enjoy.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-080820173305-9794291.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/8543-080820173305-979421148.jpeg)

Sadly, it is time to leave Hillsden  :(, hope you have enjoyed today’s visit and bodger looks forward to seeing you all again, very soon.

In the meantime, stay safe

Mike H  8) 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 08, 2020, 08:20:07 PM
Good day all round. Stunning shot again. Stay safe
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on August 08, 2020, 09:33:30 PM
I'm pleased to hear you and your good lady are taking a break, Mike. By all means keep an eye on us but don't get caught doing so!!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 09, 2020, 09:42:01 AM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
 All looking superb Mike, always enjoy my daily visits to Hillsden which must be West Riding & I'd venture close to Halifax. Look forward to more later
    stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Hailstone on August 09, 2020, 03:18:01 PM
have a good time, see you when you return.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 09, 2020, 08:04:50 PM
Hillsden Day 105

Volunteered to get up early and take the dog out, just so Mrs N could have another lie in, she is probably thinking whatís he bought now, well not yet.

So, off Flo and bodger went walking along the banks of the River Humber, this story is beginning to read like Groundhog Day. Well perhaps it is as bodger seems to bump into an elderly gentleman out for his walk at exactly the same place every morning and as bodger looks behind him Dave the blind man is walking his dog as also as usual.

Well, this morning was a little cooler than yesterday, however, it was still very pleasant and warm, but by lunch time the sun had broken through. Certainly, Bodger was happier with the cooler weather.

After returning home from his morning walk and having had breakfast, the usual, toast and pate for the dog and black coffee toast and butter for Bodger, he thought he had better do a little work in the garden. No not the gardens in Hillsden, the real thing, Mrs Nís garden.

So bodger got out the trusty mower and set about cutting the rear lawn, for a change he didnít take many flowers prisoner today, however he did snaffle a couple, obvious Mrs N had not tidied up her borders that well. Bodger followed up with cutting the front lawn too, which is very small indeed, this was the first time the new turf had been cut since it was laid, but bodger managed to cut it all without doing any damage.

Next before lunch was a quick visit to Hillsden, where bodger continued the theme of gardening, this time planted some yellow and blue flowers to one of the borders between the fence and the path. Well yellow and blue were the stated colours, we will just have to see what comes up. The next door but one gardens potatoes are starting to come through well, we will soon be getting some nice roast potatoes and chips from those.

After lunch, bodger had a quick shower and then sat down to watch the Grand Prix, whilst doing a little work on Hillsden. Yesterdayís attempt at runner beans were quickly assigned to the bin as a failure and bodger started work on another attempt, with a very slight design change, hopefully this version will bear fruit, if not he may be planting more potatoes.

Bodger also did a little more finishing works to improve the look of the garden sheds and sent them to join the queue for the paint shop, to get their second coat of wood preservative and finally the roofing felt. Bodgers fatherís shed always had yellow jasmine growing to window level, bodger is minded to replicate this in memory of his late father.

After the Grand Prix bodger disappeared to Hillsden with his camera, no not another video to bore you with. No whilst there Bodger thought he would have a look at the Jubilee. This is a loco that was bought when Farish first brought out the Jubilee and was I believe Farishes first tender drive. This is a locomotive that has never run well since day one and quite honestly it should have been returned, however it was put to one side. It never seemed to continually pick up power and Bodgers thought was that the body was too light. So bodger fixed temporarily some weight to the body, but this caused it to topple and it hit the floor, the coupling between body and tender broke, steps were damaged and it lost a buffer, fairly minor damage. The loco was put to one side, never run again until a few weeks ago, when on inspection bodger noticed a traction tyre was missing, for how long, who knows, could have been from new. So bodger replaced the traction tyre and after a few prods, it ran reasonably well at higher speeds, after a little running in, bodger added an eight coach train, it struggled, so this was reduced to six. It then ran but needed power to stop it from stalling, derailed a couple of times and finally lost its newly fitted traction tyre. Bodger again put it to one side frustrated.  :(

So, Bodger put the Jubilee onto the tracks, knowing that it had a traction tyre still missing and ran it, after a little punch it ran round Hillsden, a bit hesitant at times as though it had a slight intermittent power pick up problem, but ran better than its last outing, although it would occasionally stop dead, a very slight touch on top of the loco and it was off, it did derail a couple of times at a joint off a curve, the pony truck came off and caused the drivers to derail as well. Bodger also ran it with up to three coaches, still ran reasonable, but not slow and smooth. Bodger is minded to replace the traction tyre and insert a little weight if possible, in the locoís body just to give it slightly more adhesion on the driving wheels to enhance the connectivity with the track. This is the only locomotive in Nbodgers collection that has had running problems but needs to sort it.  :(



Anyway thatís enough moans for today from Bodger.

NBodger also confessed to Mrs N that he had purchased some more kits, he also told her he had bought another three locoís from the Isle of Man, Mrs N then replied whereís the money coming from, Bodger replied he was sending her back out to work. When Mrs N was told that bodger was only joking, she thought I was being very serious, so watch this space, a new loco or two may arrive before Christmas.  :hmmm:

 The best bit was she never asked Bodger how much he had spent, thinking about it there may just be a reason for that.  :hmmm:

Mrs N also said that she was looking at booking a holiday for next year to the Isle of Mann with trips on the various railways, a trip bodger has suggested quite a few times, she may even have booked it.  :claphappy:

Yesterday bodger got a few more photoís whilst on his travels around Hillsden of the A2 on the London bound train, here are a couple of selected photographs, enjoy  :camera:


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/8543-090820194504-980041500.jpeg)

A2 Bachelors Button departs Hillsden

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/8543-090820194507-98006466.jpeg)

Soon after departure she crosses the viaduct

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/8543-090820194504-980042360.jpeg)

Travelling under Scout Road Bridge, a location never tried before, this photo had to be lightened as the original image was not well lit.

There are certain locations on the layout that the room light causes extreme problems for photography, due to too much background light affecting the exposure, bodger could compensate on exposure but that would totally burn out the background, what it highlights is the need for a proper reliable lighting system for the layout. Anyway, Nbodger apologises  :( for the quality of todayís offerings.

Well thatís all for this Sunday visit to Hillsden, hope you have enjoyed

Please stay safe

Mike H  8) 8)

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 09, 2020, 08:10:09 PM
Mike maybe contact lee at https://www.lprails.co.uk/terms.html (https://www.lprails.co.uk/terms.html) if get stuck. Even after 15 weeks I'm.still enjoying this thread
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: joe cassidy on August 10, 2020, 11:31:11 AM
Hi Mike.

For the Jubilee, I suggest you disconnect the tender, then tinker with it until it runs OK on its own (try different combinations of axles with/without rubber tyres).

Then squeeze the drawbar wires together with tweezers to make sure they are making good electrical contact.

Finally, put a bit of oil on the motion to make sure everything is free running.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 10, 2020, 03:26:11 PM
Where is Hillsden?

As many of you reading the Hillsden thread have commented that this fictional layout is a reasonable representation of a small West Riding Mill Town. One person went further saying it reminded them of Hebden Bridge in the Calder Valley.

As I have mentioned before, I was born in the Calder Valley and resided there until I was eight years old, moving away in October 1964. I have always had a love of railways, which can only have come from these early years and living in a close proximity to the railway.

I actually lived in a village called Mytholmroyd situated between Hebden Bridge and Luddendenfoot. Where we lived in an end stone terrace house with an attic window which you could look towards the marshalling yard, which was worked 24 hours per day except Saturday afternoon and Sundays. The local Mytholmroyd Methodists cricket ground was next to the railway where I used to spend Saturday afternoons in summer watching the game, the swings and play area also were next to the railway, similarly the back of the school looked towards the railway and the footpaths we used daily were parallel to the railway.

So, from an early age, the railway was part of daily life, I can’t remember which locomotives etc. ran, nor frequency, just that they were there and I liked watching them go by.

I do have memories of travelling from Mytholmroyd station on day trips, presume these were specials going to the likes of Blackpool, Southport and Cleveleys, even to the extent of sittings in the luggage area of a brake coach as all seating was occupied.

Hillsden as a layout, set out with no intentions of being anywhere in particular but would run both ex LNER and LMS locomotives. The build just happened without any cohesive plan, however there must have been subconscious influence from those early days.

So, from the comments received on the Forum, which have been much appreciated the layout is firmly in the Calder Valley, which no doubt many of you have already come to that conclusion, but where?

I have often wondered why Sowerby Bridge was quite a large Station, with Motive Power facilities, when so near to the more major town of Halifax. Well the answer was under my nose, if I had only read the book in my possession, instead of just looking at the pictures. Well, Halifax did not have a railway serving it until after Sowerby Bridge, so passengers and goods would have to be transported to Sowerby Bridge station to be transported by train.

So, if you look at Sowerby Bridge prior to the Beeching cuts it had the following possibilities for travel (not saying that the all actually happened).

Travelling West along the Ex Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway you pass through Luddendenfoot, Mytholmroyd, Hebden Bridge, then Todmorden, where the line divides, south to Manchester and north to Preston and Blackpool etc.

There was also a branch line from Sowerby Bridge to Rishworth, with intermediate stations of Tiangle and Riponden & Barkisland.

Travelling East, you had the link to Halifax and on to Bradford Exchange Station and Leeds

Travelling east and avoiding the Halifax link you could travel via Cooper Bridge to Mirfield then via the ex London and North Western line to Dewsbury, Batley and Leeds

Or along the Lancashire and Yorkshire to Horbury Junction and then either via Wakefield Kirkgate
to Goole and Hull, or south to Barnsley


To London Kings cross via the L&Y via Wakefield Kirkgate, Pontefract, Knottingley, Askern to join the main ECML from York, just north of Doncaster. The route basically adopted today by Grand Central

From Cooper Bridge you could also travel via the London and North Western to Huddersfield, Stalybridge, Manchester and Liverpool, or to Sheffield via Huddersfield and Penistone

Also, possibly to Sheffield via Thornhill

So Bodgers conclusion, is to rename Sowerby Bridge to Hillsden, although Hillsden is nothing like Sowerby Bridge, it does have multi platforms, a canal, mill buildings etc, however bigger and more built up than Hillsden. The thing that is missing is the River Calder, so let’s say that’s off scene

If you assume that the Hillsden Branchline is the Rishworth branch even though it is in the wrong direction, the yard and depot are off scene i.e. fiddle yard then the potential for running trains is great.

In addition to daily services to various locations as noted above, you have a heavy presence of special day trips to various locations on the West Coast.

Various good traffic utilising the yard at Mytholmroyd etc. Up to 30 trains per day class J, K and H, with light engines from Sowerby Bridge

Sowerby bridge shed catered for Mytholmroyd yard, local passenger and local parcels

Please see attached map location PDF

From the above I will be able to write some form of timetable for running sessions.


Hope the above makes some sense, comments please good or bad, pull it completely to pieces if you wish.

Mike H

PS Back later with a usual post

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 10, 2020, 03:33:50 PM
A lot of research in this mike. Impressive
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on August 10, 2020, 03:43:21 PM
Just looking at all those movements reminds me how sorry I feel for the signalman/men.
They must have felt like Quasimodo did - "The bells! The bells!"
An interesting map, which I've added to my file. :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on August 10, 2020, 04:50:35 PM
Thank you for the information and the map Mike.
Not knowing the area at all I  was staring at that map for a full five minutes searching for Sowerby Bridge.
What a fascinating area that must have been in steam days.

Members of the Cornwall Locomotive Preservation Group (CLPG) are eagerly planning the itinerary for a visit to Hillsden by special train.



Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 10, 2020, 05:14:42 PM
Thank you for the information and the map Mike.
Not knowing the area at all I  was staring at that map for a full five minutes searching for Sowerby Bridge.
What a fascinating area that must have been in steam days.

Members of the Cornwall Locomotive Preservation Group (CLPG) are eagerly planning the itinerary for a visit to Hillsden by special train.

@port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230)

Apologies, I did mark the location on my first copy, but made a mistake on the added layouts, so reprinted to redraw the layouts and didnít reinstate the location.

Look forward to greeting the CLPG in Hillsden

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 10, 2020, 05:21:41 PM
Hi Mike.

For the Jubilee, I suggest you disconnect the tender, then tinker with it until it runs OK on its own (try different combinations of axles with/without rubber tyres).

Then squeeze the drawbar wires together with tweezers to make sure they are making good electrical contact.

Finally, put a bit of oil on the motion to make sure everything is free running.

Good luck!

@joe cassidy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1484)

Joe, thank you for your suggestions, I need to look a little deeper, as since yesterday it has become a virtual non runner, all I have done is lift the loco and turn it around on the track, something is loose or not good connectivity, on full power it will hardly move. Need to tidy a working space up and take a screwdriver to it.

Will report back later

Cheers
Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on August 10, 2020, 05:49:25 PM
Being a West Yorkshire lad, it was nice reading "Where Is Hillsden" and it brought back many memories. In fact, my last job before I came to Ireland, was as a Security Manager for Yorkshire Co-op and Sowerby Bridge was one of the stores I was responsible for.  :beers:. On my trips 'back home', I notice that most of the Co-op stores I knew are no longer in existence.  ???
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on August 10, 2020, 08:26:19 PM
I have seen an N gauge layout 'Rishton' a few times on the exhibition circuit.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 10, 2020, 08:42:05 PM
Hillsden Day 106

Luckily for NBodger he didnít have to get up early this morning to take Flo, the cocker out for her morning walk, as Mrs N took her, so bodger got a lie in.  ::)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/8543-100820203238-980261398.jpeg)

Meet Flo, the cocker spaniel

Again, it was a lovely sunny day and by lunch time it was very hot, not sure exactly what the temperature was but bodger was struggling with the heat.  :(

In the morning he undertook a few household jobs, to earn him a few good behavior points as he was running low on them. Well one of the tasks was to tidy the dining room table, well it was full of Bodgers railway things and certainly safer if he moved them himself.

 He thought by late morning he would be able to get a little work on Hillsden done, before granddaughter and daughter arrived in the afternoon. Well bodger had just finished his tasks when they turned up early, much too early for Bodgers plans.  :doh:

So, with his plans scuppered NBodger sat out in the garden, however, in the shade being entertained by granddaughter Alice.

Old NBodger did manage to finish the earlier post of ďWhere is HillsdenĒ, which no doubt has confused those who have read it, well it did confuse bodger, but has been interesting reading various sources, Bodger certainly learnt a lot about the railways of the West Riding and in particular the Dewsbury loop. This was because bodger in his working life was involved in pricing the tender for Dewsbury ring road, which included the demolition of Dewsbury Central station, however, retaining wall he facade of station to front a retaining wall, plus the rebuilding of Crackenedge Bridge and infilling of the tunnel, which bodger at the time had a good exploration of the station remains plus walking through the tunnel, three or four times.  ???

Yesterday evening bodger did finally get his runner beans sorted, so just need a little bit of painting followed by plonking in one of the gardens.

He has also taken all of the iron ore tipplers from Hillsden for finally finishing, which will include painting, weathering, appropriate decals and finally a load adding. Now how will those fit into Hillsden, ore from somewhere to Sheffield or Scunthorpe, possibly Teesside. Why didnít bodger just leave Hillsden as anywhere and everywhere.  :hmmm:

So, the top and bottom of it, is bodger hasnít done hardly anything today towards Hillsden, but surely, he deserves a day off now and again.  :-\

Well Bodger knows you only read his posts for the photographs, so has not to disappoint he ventured into a very hot Hillsden with camera in hand.  ::)

Today bodger managed to catch a class 37, English Electric Type 3 with a local goods passing under Midgley Road Bridge heading to Hillsdens goods shed. Enjoy

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/8543-100820203239-98028121.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/8543-100820203238-980262257.jpeg)

Well that is it from a very hot and sunny Hillsden, bodger understands it is going to get warmer as the week goes on, not good for heat hating bodger.

Hope you have enjoyed your visit to Hillsden today and hope to see you again soon in the meantime stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on August 10, 2020, 09:15:04 PM
That's great stuff, Mike.  Thank you.

I think it's a very good idea to choose an ex-L&Y line.  There's one thing you might like to consider to get plenty of ex-LNER action.  Just supposing (as Arthur Whitehead used to write in the Railway Modeller), the GN extended from Halifax to join the L&Y at Sowerby Bridge (sorry, Hillsden).  Maybe even a joint GN/L&Y line!  The GN and L&Y were on speaking terms - one of the advantages of the L&Y!  This is taking all sorts of liberties of course, but that might be fun.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 10, 2020, 10:00:44 PM
That's great stuff, Mike.  Thank you.

I think it's a very good idea to choose an ex-L&Y line.  There's one thing you might like to consider to get plenty of ex-LNER action.  Just supposing (as Arthur Whitehead used to write in the Railway Modeller), the GN extended from Halifax to join the L&Y at Sowerby Bridge (sorry, Hillsden).  Maybe even a joint GN/L&Y line!  The GN and L&Y were on speaking terms - one of the advantages of the L&Y!  This is taking all sorts of liberties of course, but that might be fun.

Best wishes.

John

John @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222)

Thank you for your post, yes quite a good idea to extend the GN to Hillsden. I was at first looking at a junction off the L&Y to the GN, just south of Wakefield to give access to London, until I found the route Grand Central trains take today from Halifax.

It is my intention to still run ex LNER Pacificís to and from Hillsden to Kings Cross, that was the reason I required a direct route to London. Although ex LNER Pacificís ran through the Calder Valley on specials an example of this was on 30th September 1961 with the Northern Rubber Companyís annual outing from Retford to Blackpool Illuminations, hauled by no lesser locomotive than A4 Mallard herself. I was on Mytholmroyd station that day with my father to witness it.

As Hillsden is in reality fictitious anything reasonable can be run, but in general will be ex LMS or LNER, BR standards plus early diesels.

Just need an Aspinal 3F and get the Jubilee running

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 10, 2020, 10:07:00 PM
Here is the grand central route  https://www.grandcentralrail.com/popular-routes/halifax-to-london/ (https://www.grandcentralrail.com/popular-routes/halifax-to-london/) And remember the Class 110 ? That would add nicely in green
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: NOE 544R on August 10, 2020, 10:33:31 PM
Hillsden Day 106

Luckily for NBodger he didnít have to get up early this morning to take Flo, the cocker out for her morning walk, as Mrs N took her, so bodger got a lie in.  ::)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/8543-100820203238-980261398.jpeg)

Meet Flo, the cocker spaniel

Again, it was a lovely sunny day and by lunch time it was very hot, not sure exactly what the temperature was but bodger was struggling with the heat.  :(

In the morning he undertook a few household jobs, to earn him a few good behavior points as he was running low on them. Well one of the tasks was to tidy the dining room table, well it was full of Bodgers railway things and certainly safer if he moved them himself.

 He thought by late morning he would be able to get a little work on Hillsden done, before granddaughter and daughter arrived in the afternoon. Well bodger had just finished his tasks when they turned up early, much too early for Bodgers plans.  :doh:

So, with his plans scuppered NBodger sat out in the garden, however, in the shade being entertained by granddaughter Alice.

Old NBodger did manage to finish the earlier post of ďWhere is HillsdenĒ, which no doubt has confused those who have read it, well it did confuse bodger, but has been interesting reading various sources, Bodger certainly learnt a lot about the railways of the West Riding and in particular the Dewsbury loop. This was because bodger in his working life was involved in pricing the tender for Dewsbury ring road, which included the demolition of Dewsbury Central station, however, retaining wall he facade of station to front a retaining wall, plus the rebuilding of Crackenedge Bridge and infilling of the tunnel, which bodger at the time had a good exploration of the station remains plus walking through the tunnel, three or four times.  ???

Yesterday evening bodger did finally get his runner beans sorted, so just need a little bit of painting followed by plonking in one of the gardens.

He has also taken all of the iron ore tipplers from Hillsden for finally finishing, which will include painting, weathering, appropriate decals and finally a load adding. Now how will those fit into Hillsden, ore from somewhere to Sheffield or Scunthorpe, possibly Teesside. Why didnít bodger just leave Hillsden as anywhere and everywhere.  :hmmm:

So, the top and bottom of it, is bodger hasnít done hardly anything today towards Hillsden, but surely, he deserves a day off now and again.  :-\

Well Bodger knows you only read his posts for the photographs, so has not to disappoint he ventured into a very hot Hillsden with camera in hand.  ::)

Today bodger managed to catch a class 37, English Electric Type 3 with a local goods passing under Midgley Road Bridge heading to Hillsdens goods shed. Enjoy

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/8543-100820203239-98028121.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/8543-100820203238-980262257.jpeg)

Well that is it from a very hot and sunny Hillsden, bodger understands it is going to get warmer as the week goes on, not good for heat hating bodger.

Hope you have enjoyed your visit to Hillsden today and hope to see you again soon in the meantime stay safe

Mike H  8)

Makes me want a 37 even more  :'( :'( One day  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 10, 2020, 11:06:54 PM
Here is the grand central route  https://www.grandcentralrail.com/popular-routes/halifax-to-london/ (https://www.grandcentralrail.com/popular-routes/halifax-to-london/) And remember the Class 110 ? That would add nicely in green

Chris, thanks for that, the problem I had was working out how GC got from Potefract to Doncaster, a map of the L&Y with associated tracks got me there.

Yes a Calder Valley set would be nice, doubt whether any manufacturer will make one though. I remember the first day they ran on the Calder Valley, it was local news at the time.

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 10, 2020, 11:14:38 PM
Mike this resource may provide you clues . I use at work  https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/W10211/2020-08-11/detailed (https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/W10211/2020-08-11/detailed) via knottiingley and shaftholme junction. As for the 110 only ever saw a OO and larger version. Worsley works never made one in N . Bh enterprises did the etched brass sides to cover a farish 101 plus ends
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: degsy_safc on August 10, 2020, 11:40:07 PM
Where is Hillsden?

As many of you reading the Hillsden thread have commented that this fictional layout is a reasonable representation of a small West Riding Mill Town. One person went further saying it reminded them of Hebden Bridge in the Calder Valley.

As I have mentioned before, I was born in the Calder Valley and resided there until I was eight years old, moving away in October 1964. I have always had a love of railways, which can only have come from these early years and living in a close proximity to the railway.

I actually lived in a village called Mytholmroyd situated between Hebden Bridge and Luddendenfoot. Where we lived in an end stone terrace house with an attic window which you could look towards the marshalling yard, which was worked 24 hours per day except Saturday afternoon and Sundays. The local Mytholmroyd Methodists cricket ground was next to the railway where I used to spend Saturday afternoons in summer watching the game, the swings and play area also were next to the railway, similarly the back of the school looked towards the railway and the footpaths we used daily were parallel to the railway.

So, from an early age, the railway was part of daily life, I canít remember which locomotives etc. ran, nor frequency, just that they were there and I liked watching them go by.

I do have memories of travelling from Mytholmroyd station on day trips, presume these were specials going to the likes of Blackpool, Southport and Cleveleys, even to the extent of sittings in the luggage area of a brake coach as all seating was occupied.

Hillsden as a layout, set out with no intentions of being anywhere in particular but would run both ex LNER and LMS locomotives. The build just happened without any cohesive plan, however there must have been subconscious influence from those early days.

So, from the comments received on the Forum, which have been much appreciated the layout is firmly in the Calder Valley, which no doubt many of you have already come to that conclusion, but where?

I have often wondered why Sowerby Bridge was quite a large Station, with Motive Power facilities, when so near to the more major town of Halifax. Well the answer was under my nose, if I had only read the book in my possession, instead of just looking at the pictures. Well, Halifax did not have a railway serving it until after Sowerby Bridge, so passengers and goods would have to be transported to Sowerby Bridge station to be transported by train.

So, if you look at Sowerby Bridge prior to the Beeching cuts it had the following possibilities for travel (not saying that the all actually happened).

Travelling West along the Ex Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway you pass through Luddendenfoot, Mytholmroyd, Hebden Bridge, then Todmorden, where the line divides, south to Manchester and north to Preston and Blackpool etc.

There was also a branch line from Sowerby Bridge to Rishworth, with intermediate stations of Tiangle and Riponden & Barkisland.

Travelling East, you had the link to Halifax and on to Bradford Exchange Station and Leeds

Travelling east and avoiding the Halifax link you could travel via Cooper Bridge to Mirfield then via the ex London and North Western line to Dewsbury, Batley and Leeds

Or along the Lancashire and Yorkshire to Horbury Junction and then either via Wakefield Kirkgate
to Goole and Hull, or south to Barnsley


To London Kings cross via the L&Y via Wakefield Kirkgate, Pontefract, Knottingley, Askern to join the main ECML from York, just north of Doncaster. The route basically adopted today by Grand Central

From Cooper Bridge you could also travel via the London and North Western to Huddersfield, Stalybridge, Manchester and Liverpool, or to Sheffield via Huddersfield and Penistone

Also, possibly to Sheffield via Thornhill

So Bodgers conclusion, is to rename Sowerby Bridge to Hillsden, although Hillsden is nothing like Sowerby Bridge, it does have multi platforms, a canal, mill buildings etc, however bigger and more built up than Hillsden. The thing that is missing is the River Calder, so letís say thatís off scene

If you assume that the Hillsden Branchline is the Rishworth branch even though it is in the wrong direction, the yard and depot are off scene i.e. fiddle yard then the potential for running trains is great.

In addition to daily services to various locations as noted above, you have a heavy presence of special day trips to various locations on the West Coast.

Various good traffic utilising the yard at Mytholmroyd etc. Up to 30 trains per day class J, K and H, with light engines from Sowerby Bridge

Sowerby bridge shed catered for Mytholmroyd yard, local passenger and local parcels

Please see attached map location PDF

From the above I will be able to write some form of timetable for running sessions.


Hope the above makes some sense, comments please good or bad, pull it completely to pieces if you wish.

Mike H

PS Back later with a usual post
Hi Mike,

What an enjoyable read. Prior to retiring from BT I was a project manager with BT responsible for the delivery of superfast broadband, although I live in Sunderland, my patch was West Yorkshire. Reading your post and the references to the many towns brought back memories of the exchange areas we covered and enabled for broadband.
One of the most problematic cabinets, that we hadnít enabled prior to me leaving was right outside Huddersfield railway station, problematic because the cable ducts were damaged right in the middle of the station frontage and we couldnít get permission to close the area to dig it up and repair the ducts. Another was at one end of the station right under the railway bridge with the lines above. We needed to change the shell of the existing cabinet, but due to it being so close to the railway bridge we had to get special permission from network rail, I assume they thought our work could possibly topple the bridge  :smiley-laughing:
Funny how a few names triggers the memories, and virtually all of those names you mentioned I had a hand in delivering broadband services to them prior to me leaving BT.

Thanks again

Cheers Derek



Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 11, 2020, 07:30:52 PM
Hillsden Day 107

Welcome to Nbodgers world of Hillsden, nestling in the Calder Valley between Luddendenfoot and Halifax.

What happened in old Bodgers world today

Bodger was up early today, on the bank of the River Humber before seven, walking the star of yesterdayís post, Flo, the cocker spaniel, who seems to have found many friends here on the Forum, judging by posts in other threads.

On the Humber it was a very pleasant walk with a nice breeze, the sun at this time had not broken through the cloud, else it would have been very warm, and has you now all know, bodger doesnít like the heat. Bodger doesnít wear shorts very often, well certainly not where people know him, however, today he made an exception, Ajax legs as Mrs N calls him, has spent all day in them, luckily, he wasnít spotted and nobody phoned the fashion police.  :hmmm:

When we returned, bodger had his breakfast, the usual, well nearly the usual, we had run out of white bread for Bodger and Floís toast, so bodger had to pinch a couple of slices of Mrs Nís posh brown granary, unfortunately Flo doesnít like it, because it has seeds in it, so she had to forgo her breakfast, until the nice man from Sainsburyís arrived mid-morning with our online shopping order.  :doh:

Before it got to hot in Hillsden, old NBodger spent an hour or so visiting, where he spent his time undertaking small areas of landscaping, including topsoiling and seeding the area around the station roundabout that was still green coloured plaster between the road surface and existing landscaping. A little bit more was done to the gardens on Sunnybank, not quite finished yet, but getting there, providing Hillsden has some cooler weather, they should be finished quite quickly. Bodger also put a few more bushes in place from foliage clump, some will be flowering shrubs requiring the flowers to be added. Whilst stood on Bodgers scissor lift, in This case a chair, to reach the back of the layout, bodger noticed a poor joint where the wall on Burnley Road ties into Burnley Road station retaining wall, he decided to mask it by planting some ivy, in time this will hide fully Bodgers bodge up.  ::)

By this time bodger was really struggling with the heat and departed Hillsden for a refreshing drink and an early lunch.

After lunch hot and bothered NBodger disappeared upstairs to his workbench, but first he sat down to read a railway book, well he says read, obviously he was just looking at the pictures as usual. It wasnít long before Bodgers mobile was ringing, it was a friend asking where bodger and Mrs N were as they were looking out of the window waiting for them to arrive. Yes, Mrs N had cocked up and got the day wrong, bodger, Mrs N and Flo were supposed to be over the river in Kirton Lindsey for the afternoon, anyway rearranged for Thursday. You see it isnít just Bodger who cocks up.  :doh:

So, when this disaster was sorted NBodger got on with a little modelling for the afternoon, well until 3:30pm when bodger had a zoom video call with members of the North Lincs Area Group.

Well what did bodger actually do, in a nutshell not all he intended to do.

First, he painted the support frame for his runner beans, which was made out of 5amp fuse wire, later some tree foliage mat was teased out thinly over the frame to provide the leaves etc of the plants. Next bodger will dab very small blobs of red watercolour paint to emulate the beans in flower.  ::)

Next Bodger finished the two garden sheds he was building, they are now painted and weathered, just requiring a coat of matt varnish before erecting them in the gardens.  ::)

Also, he managed to finally weather the lock gates, again these require a coat of matt varnish, before fitting to the lock.  ::)

It was Bodgers intention to get on with the second hand car sales building, but needless to say bodger didnít, however it is Bodgers intention to have two cars located in the showroom, these need to be ready before the roof is erected, he has these cars, which need painting, so bodger started the process by giving both cars a coat of primer.  :(

Well thus far that is all NBodger has done today, although he way get some more done this evening.

Just to upset @NOE 544R (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4158)   :no: tonightís photographs are of the Class 37 as it pulls into the siding and detaches from its train, with the Drewery shutter coupling to the stock to maneuver it around the goods yard, enjoy

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/8543-110820191743-980791612.jpeg)

Class 37 pulls into the siding

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/8543-110820191743-98079178.jpeg)

Class 37 uncoupled from train and moves to the bay platform

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/8543-110820191744-980831844.jpeg)

Drewery shunter couples to the train

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/8543-110820191745-9808384.jpeg)

Drewery shunter hauls train to goods yard for load / unloading

Well thatís it for this evening hope you have enjoyed your visit to Hillsden, NBodger hopes to bring some updated progress photographs of Hillsden soon.  :doh:

Stay safe

Mike H  8) 8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: dannyboy on August 11, 2020, 07:38:14 PM
Some nice pictures again Mike - I do like the 'head on' ones.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: port perran on August 11, 2020, 07:38:34 PM
That Class 37 looks the part Mike. Too me, the original green suits the class so well.
Although rare in Cornwall in my modelling era, Iím tempted to purchase one using rule one as my excuse.

As for shorts. I make a point of wearing only shorts no long trousers) between 1st April and end of October. Longer if the weather is set fair. This year, so far, there have been no exceptions to that rule.

Stay safe

Martin
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 11, 2020, 07:50:55 PM
 :hellosign: 
  Many thanks Mike, more   :greatpicturessign:  & the latest updates. Like David @dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209)  I was born in the West Riding & your map brings many memories of the past   :thankyousign: Shorts, never in Britain
    stay safe regards Derek
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 11, 2020, 07:59:09 PM
Love the type 3 and a split headcode version too
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on August 11, 2020, 09:02:53 PM
That Class 37 looks the part Mike. Too me, the original green suits the class so well.
Although rare in Cornwall in my modelling era, Iím tempted to purchase one using rule one as my excuse.

As for shorts. I make a point of wearing only shorts no long trousers) between 1st April and end of October. Longer if the weather is set fair. This year, so far, there have been no exceptions to that rule.

Stay safe

Martin

I agree completely with Martin regarding the EE 'Type 3', Mike.  Like most diesels, it looks best in green with no yellow.

As for the short trousers; I've not worn them, apart from when running about for some reason, since I was 12.  I can remember that ever-so-happy day when my father presented me with a pair of trousers, but shorts had to be worn at school for a bit longer.  It was good to come home and change into proper trousers.

And don't get me started on 'short sleeve' shirts!

Tickety-tonk.

John
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 11, 2020, 09:13:27 PM

And don't get me started on 'short sleeve' shirts!

John @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222)

Oh dear short sleeve shirts!

Having worn a suit, long sleeved shirt and tie for work, all my working life, since retirement, other than special occasions I have worn wait for it SHORT SLEEVED SHIRTS. I find long sleeve shirts are now to warm, well thatís my excuse.

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: NOE 544R on August 11, 2020, 10:40:57 PM
Boo play fair  :thumbsdown: :D :laughabovepost:

Lovely model. One day.... one day! This is giving me a craving to start on scenery!
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: lil chris on August 11, 2020, 10:45:57 PM
Nice pics there Mike, I must admit I fancy a class 37 myself in green.
Seeing everybody is talking about fashion ie shorts, may I mention I am not called lil chris for nothing. I have never bought a pair of trousers that did not need shortening so I am adapt at doing it myself ie shortening them. Re shorts, I do wear them especially in this warm weather but there again sometimes I need to adjust the length, some of the modern shorts they sell are nearly down to my ankles......lol
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Innovationgame on August 12, 2020, 06:44:41 AM
As for the short trousers; I've not worn them, apart from when running about for some reason, since I was 12.  I can remember that ever-so-happy day when my father presented me with a pair of trousers, but shorts had to be worn at school for a bit longer.  It was good to come home and change into proper trousers.

And don't get me started on 'short sleeve' shirts!
I've worn shorts and short sleeved shirts from May until September every year since retiring.  In fact, I was able to get away with short sleeved shirts and slacks during those moths for my last few years at work, although suits were the order of the day for the rest of the year.  But I did arrive and leave in motorcycle leathers.
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: joe cassidy on August 12, 2020, 11:19:43 AM
Mike, I thought about your gardens on Hillsden when reading my weekly e-mail from Hattons this morning

They're advertising N gauge turnips and N gauge leeks from a supplier called Tasma Scenics.

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2020, 12:32:27 PM

Having worn a suit, long sleeved shirt and tie for work, all my working life, since retirement, other than special occasions I have worn wait for it SHORT SLEEVED SHIRTS. I find long sleeve shirts are now to warm, well thatís my excuse.


While we're on the subject I'll get my two penn'orth in on sartorial elegance. Like Mike I always had to wear suit, long sleeved shirts and tie as I represented my company in front of some major international buyers. As a consequence my legs rarely saw any sun most of the time. In fact, the first time I got my legs out in shorts at the gym someone remarked they were dazzled by the lights glinting off them :-[
I now never wear shorts other than as 'slobs' indoors and, rather than short sleeved shirts, wear polo shirts - short sleeved in summer and long sleeved in winter.
Can I just add I enjoy the updates as a total i.e. not just the pics? It's always interesting to hear methodology described as well as seeing the result
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 12, 2020, 01:08:30 PM
Mike, I thought about your gardens on Hillsden when reading my weekly e-mail from Hattons this morning

They're advertising N gauge turnips and N gauge leeks from a supplier called Tasma Scenics.


Joe @joe cassidy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1484)

Thanks for that, it just happens that I read the Hattons email yesterday and was discussing with colleagues from our railway club by video about the Tasma products. We were of the opinion that they are generally out of scale, which is a production function of Ngauge, from a handling and stability point of view.

I nevertheless are continuing to try my own methods as I personally see garden detail as a representative of the actual thing. Will have to see how it all pans out when complete.

Anyway as a Yorkshireman I am not spending a fortune on garden supplies, but thank you for thinking of Hillsden.

Tonightís post will show where I have got too with the gardens to date and methods used thus far. However, always thinking on how to do certain things, like onions, cabbage and cauliflower, these being the next challenges.

You never know this time next week I may be eating my own words

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 12, 2020, 01:21:25 PM
Can I just add I enjoy the updates as a total i.e. not just the pics? It's always interesting to hear methodology described as well as seeing the result

Mick, @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)

Thank you for your last comment, very helpful to me.

When writing posts it is very difficult I find to know what the balance needs to be, whilst keeping the reader interested. I believe the Forum is for learning, so where I am doing something, I believe I have outlined my methods sufficiently without boring people and hopefully with a little humour, although I have noticed people fall asleep for a couple of hours whilst reading my posts, judging by the amount of time people are here.

A little bit more detail this evening on the garden development.

Again thanks Mick much appreciated.

Mike H  8)

PS There was one of our offices I used to visit, remember I was in the construction industry, one guy used to always shout out ďman from Debenhams shop window is hereĒ

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 12, 2020, 01:45:56 PM
Hope my earlier post re maps and routes was helpful. 
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 12, 2020, 02:04:29 PM
Hope my earlier post re maps and routes was helpful.

Chris,

Yes thank you it was very helpful, you certainly confirmed my thoughts of the route taken.

Apologies for not replying earlier

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 12, 2020, 02:09:48 PM
Its a useful resource you could use plotting against those old maps
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Train Waiting on August 12, 2020, 03:40:34 PM
PS There was one of our offices I used to visit, remember I was in the construction industry, one guy used to always shout out ďman from Debenhams shop window is hereĒ

"Debenham's!  Moi?"

Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2020, 03:56:17 PM
PS There was one of our offices I used to visit, remember I was in the construction industry, one guy used to always shout out ďman from Debenhams shop window is hereĒ

"Debenham's!  Moi?"

Ooh. Suit you, sir :D
Title: Re: Hillsden
Post by: Nbodger on August 12, 2020, 06:52:42 PM
Hillsden Day 108

Another very warm day here in Hillsden, including thunderstorms around mid morning with quite torrential downpours, at one stage the rear lawn was underwater and the path to Hillsden from the kitchen was underwater, luckily, other circuitous routes are available.  ???

Well old NBodger was able to have a lie in today, as Mrs N took Flo out for her morning run, so all he had to do was concentrate on his breakfast.

Bodger doesn’t want to court controversy, but he has his shorts on again, and yes, short sleeved shirt. Joking apart when bodger was coaching kids at cricket, no matter what the weather was, bodger wore shorts, but that ended four years ago, my doesn’t time fly.  :doh:

Mrs N was busy today, baking a birthday cake and sausage rolls, non for Bodger though!  :doh:

After the downpour and before it got too hot again, bodger visited Hillsden, where he undertook a little more work on the gardens he is slowly developing. After a coat of matt varnish, the two garden sheds he has been building were plonked in place, although not fixed yet, just in case bodger needs to temporarily move them. The runner beans were glued in place, else they kept falling over, Bodgers bad workma