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Title: Newbie building advice
Post by: Jelly on December 03, 2019, 11:21:56 AM
Hi all, first post here. Thanks to the great model railway challenge my children wanted a train set for christmas. I used to have an N gauge layout when I was little, so was all for the idea. Then I looked into it and realised that it wasnt as simple as buying a train set! Anyway, the upshot is the scenery will be a big part of it for them. We will do this over time together, but given the eye watering cost so far to get them a layout and engines as a starting point I wanted to make a start on some buildings to give it a bit of life initially.

I've made a bridge from 'In the Greenwood', and an Ancorton Cottage both of which Im very pleased with, but I dont really want to be spending that kind of amount on every building so I've made a start on scratch building a farm. Ive been using some textured plastic brick, stone and tile sheets I got from ebay, made by Kibi. Whilst these are ok they are are quite thick plastic, which makes it tough to cut, particularly windows apertures.

My (first of many no doubt) question is are there any similar textured sheets on thinner plastic (the ones I have are about 2mm), or even better can you get laser cut wood textured sheets from anywhere, such as the brick on my Ancorton and In the Greenwood kits which look excellent now Ive painted and weathered them?

EDIT: Here are some pictures of the two kits Ive built along with the farm I'm scratch building. The thick plastic is giving me problems on some of the joints and finer areas. I think they will be ok once I have sanded, filled and painted them properly but an easier building material would make life much easier.
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: Jelly on December 03, 2019, 11:32:45 AM
..and the farm Ive made a start on
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: port perran on December 03, 2019, 12:03:45 PM
Id suggest Slaters Plasticard

Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: Jelly on December 03, 2019, 12:06:12 PM
thank you, will get a couple of sheets of that to try
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: ntpntpntp on December 03, 2019, 12:36:55 PM
Yes, there is a wide variety of embossed plastic sheets for brick, stone, roofing etc. out there,  Slaters being one of the better known brands.

As you say, some of the stuff you can buy is quite thick (the Ratio offerings come to mind), but that can be useful for things like retaining walls where you need a bit of strength.   

I'd suggest buy in a little selection of different types of sheet aimed at N scale modelling and see how you get on.  Looks like you've made a great start!  :D
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: crewearpley40 on December 03, 2019, 01:32:00 PM
Welcome jelly
 Worth a look at ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=35556.msg416493#msg416493 and i ech ntpntp ' s comments which i need not add to
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: Jelly on December 03, 2019, 01:56:47 PM
Thank you both, I've ordered a selection of the Slaters sheets so will see how I get on with them
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: crewearpley40 on December 03, 2019, 02:04:24 PM
Modelscenerysupplies do some but you can buy ready to plant buildings
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: Jelly on December 03, 2019, 08:54:51 PM
Thanks Ive ordered some Slater and also some Redutex sheets which look like they might be ideal
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 03, 2019, 09:30:17 PM
Don't forget card, you can download Scalescenes brick, stone and tile images which you then print either direct to card or to A4 label stock tat you can stick to blank card; at normal viewing distances N gauge textured plastic is not essential especialy toward trhe back of a layout, the roof is the most noticeable part so I tend to use plasticard tile/slates  over card walls.

A couple of threads that may be of help, also some photos of buildings  made from card and pllasticard.

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=47473.0 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=47473.0)

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=38379.0 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=38379.0)
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: LASteve on December 03, 2019, 11:40:07 PM
For downloads of brick, stone, etc. I find textures.com invaluable. You do have to have a little savvy with resizing images and copy-and-paste in a basic image editing program to get the full value, but there is a free subscription which I use and I've been really happy with what I've done with the content.

Can't beat free! (Cost of paper and ink aside).

Welcome to the forum, too! A great spot for all kinds of help and advice. :bounce:
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: dannyboy on December 04, 2019, 02:28:14 PM
Hi Jelly and welcome to the forum. I quite like the Redutex sheets, which I usually glue to a base card. Here is an example of the red brick -

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/4209-160919172001.jpeg)
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: Jelly on December 09, 2019, 01:35:17 PM
thanks DorsetMike and LASteve, but I really want textured finishes so not too keen on the printed ones. I got the plasticard from Slaters, the texture looks ok but the card was still so thick, which is a bit of a nightmare for cutting out windows.
 
Really impressed with the self adhesive Redutex sheets danny boy. I got a sheet each of brick, pantiles, cobbles and rough stone (which is a good match for the flint walls we have here in East Anglia.   They are great to work with. Ive knocked up 'Church Farm' using plasticard to build the structures, covering each piece with the redutex. The pantiles look a bit overscale, havent got the painting right on those yet but hoping that will become less obvious once I do, but overall very pleased with the effect. Need to get hold of a few detailing items to finish them off though

Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: Jelly on December 09, 2019, 01:36:33 PM
and the farm buildings. I consigned the one using the thick ratio sheets to the bin, much happier with the redutex one
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: crewearpley40 on December 09, 2019, 01:58:39 PM
Looking very realistic now for the groundwork. Impressive use to create your chosen location
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: Papyrus on December 09, 2019, 02:50:00 PM
Another vote here for Plasticard. For me, the advantage of plastic is that you can paint and weather it any colour you want, whereas with card or downloads you are pretty much stuck with the colour they give you. I don't know if this is also true of Redutex - I've never tried it.

Your buildings so far are looking excellent. I particularly like the old cottage.

Cheers,

Chris

PS. :welcomesign:
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 09, 2019, 03:24:16 PM
I'd agree Slaters and other plasticards are not easy to cut by hand, I use a plotter cutter which will cut an A4 sheet of building walls etc  in under 10 minutes.

OK so not a cheap way to do things but can't be beat for convenience, draw up the outlines on the PC; if you want you can swap the blade for a pen and do a test run to make sure it fits on an A4 sheet, then load your plasticard (or other card) and hit the go button.
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: Jelly on December 09, 2019, 03:51:26 PM
thanks everyone, I think the plotter cutter would be a bit of overkill for me at the moment!
Papyrus the redutex takes paint fine so no problem if you need to change the colour of it. Its pricy at about 9 a strip, but managed to get two decent sized buildings from two sheets with a decent amount left over
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: Jelly on December 12, 2019, 03:16:49 PM
Have got the farm buildings into a farmyard now, will definitely be sticking with the Redulux option I think, the offcuts were really handy for building extras like the walls, well etc
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: Papyrus on December 12, 2019, 03:30:30 PM
That looks really good!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: LASteve on December 12, 2019, 08:44:19 PM
That looks really, really good.  :wonderfulmodelling:
Title: Re: Newbie building advice
Post by: Jelly on December 14, 2019, 10:34:35 AM
thank you both. Onto the next one now
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