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Title: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on May 10, 2019, 08:09:28 PM
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/5545-100519200736.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=77266)

Hello all,

With the SR Leader project soon to be done, I have embarked on another project to model an obscure prototype. As the title of this thread gives away, the focus of this project is the Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive.

I have started doing test CAD drawings (see below) and have already got these test printed by @Snowwolflair (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3761)  and will post pictures of these when they arrive.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/5545-100519200141.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=77265)

In terms of a chassis, I am planning to use the TM-ED02 by Tomytec. This will need to be cut in half and extended (with a new chassis frame designed and printed) and even then the wheel spacing on each bogie will be too wide. But, alas, it will have to do as its the closest match in terms of wheel size etc!

I look forward to hearing your thoughts!

Cheers,

Alex


Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: RailGooner on May 10, 2019, 08:36:47 PM
Hi Alex. I'm not familiar with the prototype, so had to search. Quite an attractive loco. :beers:

 http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/reidmac/morant1.jpg (http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/reidmac/morant1.jpg)
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: emjaybee on May 10, 2019, 09:23:05 PM
Wowsers!

That's an interesting loco. It is quite attractive, your not wrong. Whats the history of it?

Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: RailGooner on May 10, 2019, 09:41:45 PM
..
 Whats the history of it?

https://www.lner.info/locos/Experimental/ReidMacLeod.php (https://www.lner.info/locos/Experimental/ReidMacLeod.php) :beers:



ADDIT: The Pathe News reel link in the above article is dead. Found the video here:

 https://www.britishpathe.com/video/turbine-locomotive/query/Reid-MacLeod (https://www.britishpathe.com/video/turbine-locomotive/query/Reid-MacLeod)
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: emjaybee on May 10, 2019, 09:59:50 PM
Very interesting. I hate to say it, but I think it's a better looking loco than that GT3.

Thanks for the links.
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Shiney Sheff on May 12, 2019, 08:37:07 PM
oooh.    :hmmm:
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on May 13, 2019, 07:40:59 PM
Hello all,

I have received the test prints today and have to say the quality is outstanding (for which I thank @Snowwolflair (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3761) ); although there are some print lines (easily sanded down), the finesse of the details is incredible, right down to the tiny rivets on the bufferbeam. I then sanded and primed the test piece. I couldn't help put a little colour on it, so the bufferbeam got a nice coat of red and the buffers a dark metallic silver.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/5545-130519192859.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=77399)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/5545-130519192919.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=77400)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/5545-130519193022.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=77401)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/5545-130519193137.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=77403)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/5545-130519193157.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=77404)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/5545-130519193212.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=77406)

As I can't currently work on the CAD, I am starting to think about colours and wheels. I can only find black and white pictures of the turbine engine so I may have to make some creative choices. One of the first colour schemes that appeals is the same as the GT3, a golden brown and green combination (a test piece of which you can just about see in the bottom left corner of one of the photos above). I will keep researching, but for now, that's where I am up to! On a final note, I need a pair of steam loco bogies, approx. 5mm wheel size, and wondered if anyone has any they are willing sell or knows where I can get some?

Any help would be greatly appreciated and I look forward to hearing your comments and advice!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: martyn on May 13, 2019, 08:57:12 PM
The RCTS Locos of the LNER part 10A has a brief mention of this loco, giving some technical details and the trials known to have been undertaken, but there is no mention of livery. There is a black and white photo of the loco at Haymarket West on 3/4/27.

martyn
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: RailGooner on May 13, 2019, 09:17:17 PM
Might the NRM be able to help with livery info? Even if they say "No" I'll bet they do so nicely and politely. :beers:
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Bealman on May 14, 2019, 12:09:24 AM
Yet another wonderful project.  :thumbsup:

Hats off to both of you!  :beers:

Railgooner's Pathe link was interesting, showing all the complex "bits", but I really hoped to see it go!!  :(
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on May 14, 2019, 09:13:58 AM
Morning,

@martyn (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=447)  Thanks for the info, I will see if I can get hold of a copy, the technical details may be particularly useful!

@RailGooner (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5427) That's a great idea, I have sent a request to the NRM and shall wait and see if it turns up anything useful!

@Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) Hopefully you'll be able to see it go (at least in N gauge) in a couple of months time :D

Cheers!
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Bealman on May 14, 2019, 09:23:31 AM
That would be great!  :thumbsup:

Hope you get livery details.  :beers:
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: martyn on May 14, 2019, 01:41:06 PM
@AR (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5545);

Don't bother to get the RCTS book; I'll try and put the relevant bits on here or via PM. There isn't much and the book is probably long out of print.

Martyn

Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on May 20, 2019, 03:52:36 PM
Hello all,

I have heard back from the very nice people at the NRM and they have some documents/pictures on the subject. However, they are only available to view in person and, living in Cornwall, York is a bit too far away so sadly I think I will have to leave that aspect of research for now! In terms of livery they weren't sure either (unless its in the few archived documents they have) so I think I will have to go on what looks best (advice/ideas always welcome :thumbsup:!)

I will order the chassis shortly and once that arrives the CAD work can be started properly!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 20, 2019, 04:00:09 PM
Another very interesting project, Alex. I wish you all success with it and will look forward to seeing it progressing.

Alas, my wishes are far more mundane a B4 0-4-0 tank loco and a BR / Maunsell pull-push two-car set.
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: RailGooner on May 20, 2019, 11:20:35 PM
Hello all,

I have heard back from the very nice people at the NRM and they have some documents/pictures on the subject. However, they are only available to view in person and, living in Cornwall, York is a bit too far away
...

I understand the NRM allow one to take photos of documents for research purposes - obviously with no rights to publish of course. Even handwritten notes of documents could be a great help to research. Do we have any member in York who would be kind enough to visit the NRM on behalf of Alex?

 :helpneededsign:
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: RailGooner on May 28, 2019, 11:54:33 AM
 :helpneededsign: :bump:
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on June 01, 2019, 05:24:35 PM
Hello all!

I am pleased to say that, after a slow start, this project is now in full swing. The chassis has been ordered and is due to arrive in the next couple of weeks. In the meanwhile, I have been learning my way around my new CAD program (FreeCAD) and have started the final CAD design. The images below aren't the best quality as I am not yet certain as to how I can export them from my CAD program in a higher resolution!
 
I have started the basic baseplate but this will need editing once I have the chassis so that I can work out where the mechanism will go and how the bogies will attach (I am hoping to replicate the design of the Tomytec chassis, but just longer!). I have also started work on the cab.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/5545-010619171850.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=77985)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/5545-010619171908.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=77986)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/5545-010619172017.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=77987)

@RailGooner (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5427) thanks for your help regarding the NRM!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Snowwolflair on June 01, 2019, 05:36:34 PM
Hello all!

I am pleased to say that, after a slow start, this project is now in full swing. The chassis has been ordered and is due to arrive in the next couple of weeks. In the meanwhile, I have been learning my way around my new CAD program (FreeCAD) and have started the final CAD design. The images below aren't the best quality as I am not yet certain as to how I can export them from my CAD program in a higher resolution!
 
I have started the basic baseplate but this will need editing once I have the chassis so that I can work out where the mechanism will go and how the bogies will attach (I am hoping to replicate the design of the Tomytec chassis, but just longer!). I have also started work on the cab.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/5545-010619171850.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=77985)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/5545-010619171908.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=77986)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/5545-010619172017.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=77987)

@RailGooner (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5427) thanks for your help regarding the NRM!

Cheers,

Alex

The FreeCAD looks good.  What is the range of tools like?
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on June 01, 2019, 05:41:03 PM
@Snowwolflair (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3761)
Thanks, the FreeCAD is good, it has a great range of tools of which I have only scrapped the surface. It is also fairly intuitive and has been easy enough to pick up the basics. Its also supported by a great forum and online wiki-style guide which has been invaluable. I would definitely recommend it, especially considering its totally free!
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on June 04, 2019, 08:30:46 PM
Hello all,

Just a quick update on the CAD thus far. I will add more of the fine details in once the basic shape is there but it is progressing nicely. I also need to thicken the cab walls, roof and side tank walls (a relatively simple alteration) to ensure they meet printing tolerances.

A couple of pictures in grey to show the overall form:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/5545-040619202821.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=78140)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/5545-040619202834.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=78141)

And one colour one to show all the component parts:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/5545-040619202853.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=78142)

I look forward to hearing what you think!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: RailGooner on June 04, 2019, 08:42:48 PM
I think, it's coming along very nicely Alex. :beers:
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on June 10, 2019, 10:10:31 PM
Hello all,

I have been working on the CAD and the body is nearing completion, only the details below the running plate to left to do. I have been informed that the chassis is waiting at my loco Royal Mail sorting office so I will collect that as soon as possible! This will enable me to start adjusting the baseplate to receive the altered chassis parts and allow me to design the bogie frames.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/5545-100619220409.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=78348)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/5545-100619220421.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=78349)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/5545-100619220434.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=78350)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/5545-100619220448.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=78351)

I have also found some information regarding the livery: LNER apple green with lining (of perhaps a dark muddy green or black and white). I haven't made a final decision about this yet but I think it could look splendid in this livery. Let me know what you think!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on June 16, 2019, 09:55:15 AM
Hello all,

I have just received the first test prints of the loco from @Snowwolflair (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3761) and I am pleased with how they have come out. There are a few refinements I need to make in the CAD (thicker walls in places etc) but overall it is a good test piece. I have given it a quick sand and sprayed some primer on it to bring out the details. The chassis has also arrived and I will start work on extending this over the next couple of weeks or so; any advice on extending a motor shaft would be greatly appreciated!

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/5545-160619094845.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=78600)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/5545-160619094800.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=78599)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/5545-160619094920.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=78601)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/5545-160619094936.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=78602)

I look forward to hearing your thoughts!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on June 28, 2019, 08:13:26 PM
Hello all,

The chassis has now arrived and was promptly taken apart. This has allowed me to start replicating the bogie mounts in CAD so I can build them into the chassis design. I have had one set of test prints thus far, and although they worked in principle, there will need to be a few more iterations before I reach a desired fit. This picture shows slightly different versions of the mounts ready for the next round of test prints (kindly printed by @Snowwolflair (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3761)).

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/5545-280619200651.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=78957)

I have also started on the chassis itself and here it can be seen with the motor cover (which secures the motor) and holes that will allow the body and chassis to be screwed together.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/5545-280619200733.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=78958)

And finally, I have begun work on the bogie sides. These will affix to the bogies using pins and will eventually support the front bogie trucks (much like the real thing).
 
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/5545-280619200811.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=78959)

I will be working on finishing the mounts and bogie frames and then work will begin on extending the motor shaft and getting the chassis up and running!

I look forward to hearing what you think and of any advice you may be able to offer:)

Cheers,

Alex




Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Bealman on June 29, 2019, 12:19:41 AM
I can't offer any advice, I'm afraid, Alex, but what I can offer is my utmost admiration for a fascinating project which appears to be progressing brilliantly!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: RailGooner on June 29, 2019, 01:03:35 AM
Wow! I missed the last couple of posts, till now. Exciting progress Alex - the test prints look stunning. :thumbsup: Re: extending the drive shafts - brass tube? :beers:
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Railwaygun on June 29, 2019, 12:13:27 PM
Wow! I missed the last couple of posts, till now. Exciting progress Alex - the test prints look stunning. :thumbsup: Re: extending the drive shafts - brass tube? :beers:

Do an NGF search for sleeve glue!
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: RailGooner on June 29, 2019, 06:11:27 PM
Wow! I missed the last couple of posts, till now. Exciting progress Alex - the test prints look stunning. :thumbsup: Re: extending the drive shafts - brass tube? :beers:

Do an NGF search for sleeve glue!

Nick, I've searched as you suggested but I'm afraid I don't know why so don't know what I'm to do with the results. :confused2:
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on June 29, 2019, 06:34:46 PM
Wow! I missed the last couple of posts, till now. Exciting progress Alex - the test prints look stunning. :thumbsup: Re: extending the drive shafts - brass tube? :beers:

Do an NGF search for sleeve glue!

Nick, I've searched as you suggested but I'm afraid I don't know why so don't know what I'm to do with the results. :confused2:

Thank you all for your comments and advice. I have found the sleeve glue (a kind of adhesive for securing bearings etc) and may well use it if soldering doesn't work, so thanks @Railwaygun (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=941) for the advice!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: RailGooner on June 29, 2019, 08:43:50 PM
Ah ha!
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Railwaygun on June 30, 2019, 09:01:23 PM
Wow! I missed the last couple of posts, till now. Exciting progress Alex - the test prints look stunning. :thumbsup: Re: extending the drive shafts - brass tube? :beers:

Do an NGF search for sleeve glue!

sorry -late night cryptic comment!sleeve glue has a little flexibility i believe, so more accomodating than solder
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on June 30, 2019, 09:03:48 PM
Hello all,

I have been working on the front and rear bogies this evening and have got the basic shape and first details in place. I am thinking of using a thin strip of bent brass or nickel to attach it to the chassis and allow the bogie to pivot; does this seem like a sound solution?

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-300619210057.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79016)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-300619210113.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79017)

@Railwaygun (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=941) Thanks for the advice, I will definitely look into it!

Cheers,

Alex

Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on July 02, 2019, 09:29:25 PM
Hello all,

Just a quick glimpse of what the chassis is looking like:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-020719212532.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79125)

I am also waiting for test prints for the main bogies, front and rear bogies, bogie mounts and motor mounts and am really looking forward to see how they come out!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on July 04, 2019, 09:59:39 PM
Hello all,

I have received the test prints from @Snowwolflair (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3761) and I am really pleased with the results.

The motor bogie mounts work really well with the refinements I made and I can now transfer the CAD test pieces to the main chassis CAD. The bogie sides also turned out well with the detail being very crisp. There are some alterations I need to make to these parts, nothing major, but a few tweaks that will really refine the way the overall model goes together.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-040719214945.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79164)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-040719215018.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79165)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-040719215034.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79166)

Finally, the motor mount works perfectly and only needs a slight height adjustment and then, like the bogie mounts, can be added to the main CAD design.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-040719215055.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79167)

Overall, these tests have gone really well and the design is coming close to completion. As this is moving from a design to a construction project, I may ask a moderator to kindly move this thread to the workbench section (if this is something that can easily be done!).

I look forward to hearing your thoughts!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Railwaygun on July 04, 2019, 10:57:42 PM
this is practical 3d modelling and very good it is too.

the concept of local 3D foundries (Snowwolflair) producing parts ( as opposed to Shapeways) seems the way forward - especially as converting 3d design to plastic is an iterative process. the spread of the new high quality printers seems to be the basis of a new cottage industry?

perhaps we need a 3d modelling workbench thread/subgroup???

Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Bealman on July 04, 2019, 11:10:32 PM
I'm perfectly happy with it being left here, Alex, as I'm following along avidly, and at least I always know where it is!
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Snowwolflair on July 04, 2019, 11:29:11 PM
this is practical 3d modelling and very good it is too.

the concept of local 3D foundries (Snowwolflair) producing parts ( as opposed to Shapeways) seems the way forward - especially as converting 3d design to plastic is an iterative process. the spread of the new high quality printers seems to be the basis of a new cottage industry?

perhaps we need a 3d modelling workbench thread/subgroup???


Alex has good CAD and design skills which means the items I print for him print first time.  I know his work as he helped with some of my early design work for the 2BILs and Tadpoles that are the topic of another thread.

The idea of a group of forum members acting as a foundry is an interesting possibility, however, it would need some thought about how it could be organised and the cost.
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Shiney Sheff on July 05, 2019, 02:20:56 PM
I would be in for one of the loco's if it was ever put into production, it's a thing of quirkiness and beauty, which I like very much.

Bob
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on July 05, 2019, 08:52:54 PM
Hello all,

The idea of a forum for individual users to access other people's 3D printers is certainly a good idea but cost etc would definitely need considering, as @Snowwolflair (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3761) says. It is, however, worth looking into, especially taking into account the proved usefulness of 3D printing in model railways.

@Shiney Sheff (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=42), thanks for your kind comments, I too enjoy modelling the more unusual (and sometimes totally obscure!) prototypes, and indeed the modelling challenges they present. I am very unlikely to make this model available as it would need a lot more work to make it a viable kit, so for now it's likely to be a sole representative.

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Railwaygun on July 06, 2019, 01:00:14 PM
Hello all,

The idea of a forum for individual users to access other people's 3D printers is certainly a good idea but cost etc would definitely need considering, as @Snowwolflair (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3761) says. It is, however, worth looking into, especially taking into account the proved usefulness of 3D printing in model railways.

@Shiney Sheff (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=42), thanks for your kind comments, I too enjoy modelling the more unusual (and sometimes totally obscure!) prototypes, and indeed the modelling challenges they present. I am very unlikely to make this model available as it would need a lot more work to make it a viable kit, so for now it's likely to be a sole representative.

Cheers,

Alex

perhaps we just need members to post their willingness to print for NGF members , or develop CAD models from drawings / models,  and their machine / resolution.

then members can make their own arrangements.

Approx. costs can be shown, and a small market could develop? it might help amortise costs of more exotic printers..

Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on July 06, 2019, 07:05:32 PM
Hello all,

I have finally completed the CAD for the Reid-MacLeod loco and have sent all the parts to be printed. I had to redraw the front/rear bogies but I think they look better now, and are certainly sturdier! These are the final CAD drawings of each of the main sections:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-060719190028.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79210)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-060719190154.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79211)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-060719190209.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79212)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-060719190221.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79213)

I have also made a long list of small brass details I need to buy, as well as other small parts needed to complete the model. It is still a very long way off but its very exciting and reassuring to be rounding off the first stage and moving onto the next which, I am sure, will present its own challenges (including plucking up the courage to cut and extend the motor shafts, something I am not looking forward to!!)

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on July 10, 2019, 08:51:41 PM
Hello all,

Well, today has been very productive indeed! I now have a running chassis (my first, so its a little noisy but it moves so I am happy!), the main bogies and loco undercoated and the front and rear bogies off the 3D printing supports.

Firstly, I received the prints from @Snowwolflair (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3761), this time in a black resin that is easier to sand and more durable than the grey resin previously used. Here the chassis can be seen off the supports whilst the rest of the parts remain attached.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-100719204153.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79315)

The main bogies, once removed from the supports:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-100719204224.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79316)


Secondly, the chassis. This has been a daunting part of the project and whilst it didn't go without a hitch, I am pleased to say that it does work, even if it does look a little ramshackle! I started by cutting the brass worm off, leaving a small bit of brass tube into which I soldered 1mm brass rod. The worm was then soldered to the brass rod, trying to get it as straight as possible; I think it could be better and maybe I will tackle it in the future but for now I'll keep it as it is! This was done at both ends before it was wired up and tested. I need to find some smaller wire as the current wire slightly inhibits the cornering of the bogies, but again, something for the future!

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-100719204241.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79317)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-100719204311.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79318)

Now it was onto the painting. I sanded the loco body carefully with fine grade sandpaper and then undercoated the loco and main bogies with grey primer. The bogies look great but the body needs another going over with sandpaper, just to get the last few blemishes off the surface.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-100719204429.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79319)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-100719204456.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79320)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-100719204520.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79321)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-100719204545.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79322)

Finally, the state of play by this evening. You can just catch a glimpse of one of the test pieces mocked up in green. I have to say, I am still not convinced by the green livery, despite it being prototypical. I still quite like the idea of the brown/green colours of the GT3 loco. Any suggestions/thoughts on this would be much appreciated :)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-100719204606.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79323)

Also, in terms of grease for gears, what would people advise? I have managed to rub most of it off during construction and want to re-grease it for smoother running!

I look forward to reading what you think of the model so far and any advice/opinions you may have :)

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on July 11, 2019, 11:02:31 AM
Hello all,

I forgot to add to last night's post, I am in need of 4 spoked metal wagon wheelsets (8 wheels, 4 axles) for the front and rear bogies. If anyone can help, I am happy to pay and cover any postage.

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: PLD on July 11, 2019, 11:08:05 PM
Hello all,

I forgot to add to last night's post, I am in need of 4 spoked metal wagon wheelsets (8 wheels, 4 axles) for the front and rear bogies. If anyone can help, I am happy to pay and cover any postage.

Cheers,

Alex
By "4 spoked wheelsets" do you mean "4 sets of spoked wheels" or wheelsets with "4 spokes per wheel"?
If the latter, I can't think of anything suitable in N, if the former then Peco / Parkside offer 6.2mm diameter wheels with 8 spokes.
https://peco-uk.com/products/jackson-romford-62mm-8-spoke-wheels


Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on July 13, 2019, 08:10:20 PM
Hello all,

@PLD (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=647) Thanks for your advice, I was looking for 4 sets of 8-spoked wheels. I realise now my wording was a little ambiguous! I have now ordered some from N Brass (along with some other of their superb detailing parts!)

I have also managed to mount the loco body on the chassis and I think it is really starting to look like the prototype (even if it is a little grey!). I also need to get used to the fact that the boiler end is actually the rear!

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-130719200704.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79418)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-130719200722.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79419)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-130719200737.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79420)

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on July 17, 2019, 05:42:42 PM
Hello all,

Whilst I am waiting for my brass detailing parts to arrive in the post, I have spent a few days doing other aspects of the project including increasing the size of the bufferbeam, adding rivets, adding weights, making sure the chassis screws to the loco body securely and, finally, trying to figure out livery details!

The bufferbeams seemed too high when lined up with a standard coach and therefore the buffers wouldn't have matched. Thus, I have extended the bufferbeams downwards by a few mm with plastic from the recyling bin. This was cut and glued in place and then filler and plenty of sanding was used to blend it into the existing buffer beam. I then added some rivets to the bufferbeam (not prototypical, I admit, but it distracts the eye from the slight blemishes of the join!) and the roof of the cab.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-170719173245.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79615)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-170719173302.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79616)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-170719173323.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79617)

Then I set about drilling out the existing pilot holes for the screws to attach the loco body to the chassis. This seems to work fine and a couple of brass flathead screws do the job. If this wears down over time, I can always switch it for a nut and bolt at each end.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-170719173404.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79618)

I have added small lead weights to either end of the loco, placed over the bogies for maximum traction. The lead beads were from curtain weight-rope and cost 17p in total!

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-170719173437.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79619)

Finally, I have been playing around with livery ideas and I think I have settled on a GNR inspired guise (the test square third from the left). The lining is easy to get hold of and I think a bright colour will suit the loco nicely, as well as being similar to the protoype colour of apple green.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-170719173510.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79620)

I look forward to hearing your thoughts!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: chrism on July 17, 2019, 05:47:27 PM
I've only one thought, I'm afraid - this is looking pretty darned good  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Simon D. on July 17, 2019, 06:58:36 PM
Can I ask what you used to make the rivets?

Thanks

Simon
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on July 17, 2019, 07:03:30 PM
Can I ask what you used to make the rivets?

Thanks

Simon

Hello,

They are from Railtec (2mm-9101). I was in need of 2mm scale rivets for a previous project and Railtec kindly produced them for me and they are now available on their website.

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Bob Tidbury on July 18, 2019, 09:01:56 AM
I think itís about time you , Snowwolflair and Ozymandias went into business together and start producing these wonderfull 3D printed models and resprays  as R T R for us less skilled modellers . I for one would buy a Leader from you  ,a City of Truro from Ozy and a Great Bear from Snowwolflair ,but I would have to sell  a few of my collection before I could afford them ,so you three have plenty of time to work out how you could form a company together .
Of course they would have to be for Forum  members , and to order only .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Bealman on July 18, 2019, 09:14:48 AM
Sir you are a master craftsman.

What a magnificent model this is going to be!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 18, 2019, 10:51:21 AM
I think itís about time you , Snowwolflair and Ozymandias went into business together and start producing these wonderfull 3D printed models and resprays  as R T R for us less skilled modellers . I for one would buy a Leader from you  ,a City of Truro from Ozy and a Great Bear from Snowwolflair ,but I would have to sell  a few of my collection before I could afford them ,so you three have plenty of time to work out how you could form a company together .
Of course they would have to be for Forum  members , and to order only .
Bob Tidbury

An excellent idea, Bob. I would like a B4 0-4-0T dock tank and a 16xx 0-6-0 pannier tank, plus the BR converted Maunsell two-coach pull-push sets. Scale plans are available and I would be happy to provide. Then there are the missing Maunsell / BR catering coaches and a BR 3TC / 4TC trailer set . . .
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Simon D. on July 18, 2019, 12:20:57 PM
Quote
They are from Railtec (2mm-9101). I was in need of 2mm scale rivets for a previous project and Railtec kindly produced them for me and they are now available on their website.

Oooh, they look good and a real alternative to Archer rivets; plus much much cheaper

Many thanks indeed.

Simon
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on July 18, 2019, 09:22:21 PM
Hello all,

Thank you for all your kind comments! Here are some pictures of the loco with its full compliment of wheels and the start of the brass detailing:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-180719211620.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79648)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-180719211643.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79649)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-180719211659.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79650)

I am having trouble with the front and rear bogies as they are very small and like to derail. This is probably down to my test track (which is rough as its only soldered together without fishplates currently  :goggleeyes:) as it seems to only be on the dodgy join. However, does anyone have an ideas of how to stabalise the bogies to make them better at traversing points/track irregularities?

Any help would be great!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: chrism on July 19, 2019, 06:02:02 AM
Have you got room to add a bit of weight to the bogies?
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: zwilnik on July 19, 2019, 09:06:34 AM
As chrism suggested, weight's always a good idea.
Another possibly is to add a spring to them. If you can put a lightweight spring on the bogie shaft so that it has a small range of vertical movement with the spring providing a small amount of resistance, then that should help them stay in contact with the track while not jumping.
That's assuming the bogies have a central pivot shaft and aren't floating on a lever (if they are, a spring is still feasible, just more tricky unless the lever arm itself is sprung).
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: joe cassidy on July 19, 2019, 08:00:32 PM
The boiler end of the body makes me think of the Midland Railway "flat iron" tank loco.

Any chance you might have a go at that as a future project ?

Yours hopefully,


Joe
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on July 21, 2019, 05:36:46 PM
Hello all,

Thank you for all your advice and, as usual, this wonderful forum has solved a problem for me! :thankyousign:

Have you got room to add a bit of weight to the bogies?

Thanks for your advice, I tried to add a bit of weight to them with tiny lead beads but I couldn't add enough to make a substantial difference: I forgot how small N gauge bogies are!!

As chrism suggested, weight's always a good idea.
Another possibly is to add a spring to them. If you can put a lightweight spring on the bogie shaft so that it has a small range of vertical movement with the spring providing a small amount of resistance, then that should help them stay in contact with the track while not jumping.
That's assuming the bogies have a central pivot shaft and aren't floating on a lever (if they are, a spring is still feasible, just more tricky unless the lever arm itself is sprung).
Thank you, this spring method proved to be the perfect solution (see later in this post for details) and I am pleased to report the bogies are now staying firmly on the track!
The boiler end of the body makes me think of the Midland Railway "flat iron" tank loco.
Any chance you might have a go at that as a future project ?
Yours hopefully,
Joe
I had to look this one up, but I agree it does certainly share a similar shape! I haven't any plans for the immediate future but I will certainly remember it and may well consider it in the long term:)

So, the sprung bogies. I have used a small piece of brass rod as the pivot, a couple of pieces of plastic carton and an old coupling spring. I cut a hole in each of the pieces of plastic. Then glued the rod into the smallest piece of plastic and attached the second plastic piece to the main bogie frame. Then threaded the rod through the small bogie, put on the spring and threaded the top piece of the rod through the hole in the plastic piece attached to the main bogie and secured with superglue. This results in a good pressure on the bogies which means they stay on the track!

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-210719172915.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79724)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-210719172948.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79726)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-210719172933.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79725)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-210719173006.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79727)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-210719173025.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79728)

Finally, I attached the coupling and am pleased to say the locomotive pulled its first coach with a proper coupling and all wheels up and down the test track! A pleasing stage to get through after months of design and building work!
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-210719173040.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79729)

Cheers,

Alex


Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on July 25, 2019, 01:10:16 PM
Hello all,

The model is now complete, apart from a few handrails on the cab sides, and is ready for painting. I think the handrails really add some depth to the model!

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-250719130720.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79913)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-250719130737.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79914)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-250719130751.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79915)

I am also still undecided on the livery for the loco and therefore have drawn up some colour designs. What do you all think would look best? Whilst some of the liveries are based on prototypical colour schemes, some are less accurate. However, as long as it looks good and realistic, I am not too concerned about complete accuracy considering how rare the prototype is!

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-250719130653.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79912)

I look forward to hearing your thoughts!

Cheers,

Alex


Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2019, 01:36:38 PM
Hi Alex, highly impressive work. My choice would be the 3rd then the 2nd of the colour schemes shown.
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Snowwolflair on July 25, 2019, 01:48:40 PM
Hello all,

The model is now complete, apart from a few handrails on the cab sides, and is ready for painting. I think the handrails really add some depth to the model!

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-250719130720.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79913)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-250719130737.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79914)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-250719130751.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79915)

I am also still undecided on the livery for the loco and therefore have drawn up some colour designs. What do you all think would look best? Whilst some of the liveries are based on prototypical colour schemes, some are less accurate. However, as long as it looks good and realistic, I am not too concerned about complete accuracy considering how rare the prototype is!

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-250719130653.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79912)

I look forward to hearing your thoughts!

Cheers,

Alex

As I understand it she was a rebuild of the The Reid-Ramsey Turbine-Electric Locomotive, the only colour representation was the following.  My suspicion is she will follow the same colour scheme being primarily black.


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/3761-250719134715.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79916)
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on July 26, 2019, 12:38:07 PM
Hello all,

Many thanks for your replies. I am still yet to decide on a livery but, although they are unprototypical, I am leaning towards the grey, blue or olive green liveries. In the meantime, however, I have built a box to transport both the Reid-MacLeod and Leader locomotives:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-260719124346.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79931)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-260719124200.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79930)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5545-260719123401.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=79929)

Cheers,

Alex


Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 26, 2019, 12:58:38 PM
The box is an excellent idea, Alex.
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on May 28, 2020, 07:55:00 PM

Hi all,

I hope everyone is well and apologies for not updating this thread in a long while!

However, I have finally gotten around to making some good progress with the model. I have decided on a colour scheme of BR Lined Maroon. I know this is not particularly realistic, but I have made up the story that the loco was a success and passed into BR ownership. I think the model deserved a smart livery and I have always liked steam locos in crimson or maroon.

I primed the model in white, before using Railmatch BR Maroon to give the base colour. The black highlights and red bufferbeams where brush painted after. The mesh for the grill was from some 4mm scale security fencing and painted the same colour as the main body prior to fixing with superglue. I have ordered some BR crests, lining and smokebox numbers from Fox and they should arrive in the coming days.

Finally, I have a re-print of the chassis plate arriving soon as the current one was badly warped and then I managed to break it! The benefits of 3D design/printing!

Here are some pictures from different stages:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/5545-280520194808.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94418)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/5545-280520194828.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94419)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/5545-280520194847.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94420)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/5545-280520194954.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94423)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/5545-280520194910.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94421)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/5545-280520194932.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94422)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/5545-280520195130.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94424)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/5545-280520195149.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94425)

I look forward to hearing what you think, and your verdict on the livery!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Snowwolflair on May 28, 2020, 07:59:26 PM
Alex, It really looks good in that colour.  You should get the chassis by Saturday.
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on May 28, 2020, 08:04:17 PM
Hi,

Thanks, I was agonising over the colour for a long time! But I am pleased with how its come out, I think some nice BR crests and lining will really set it off!

Great, I look forward to it arriving, perfect timing for the weekend :) Thanks again!

Cheers,

Alex

Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Roy L S on May 29, 2020, 12:01:32 AM
One of the quirkiest model locos I have ever seen. Amazing work, well done!

Roy
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on June 02, 2020, 05:22:21 PM
Hi all,

Thanks for the kind comments!

I am pleased to say the model is now complete! After over a year of on and off modelling I am glad to see it finished! I think the lining and crests etc. really set it off. The chassis also looks smart in matching maroon livery.

I look forward to hearing what you think:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/5545-020620171843.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94744)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/5545-020620171858.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94745)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/5545-020620171910.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94746)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/5545-020620171924.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94747)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/5545-020620171941.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94748)

Now to figure out the next project....a GT-3 Gas Turbine would be very nice....

Cheers,

Alex

Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: emjaybee on June 02, 2020, 05:28:04 PM
That looks stunning, no other word will do.

It's a superb model, one that many people would love to own. Absolutely top job.
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on June 02, 2020, 05:32:16 PM
That looks stunning, no other word will do.

It's a superb model, one that many people would love to own. Absolutely top job.

Thank you for the very kind feedback, I am glad you like it! I really enjoyed the project so hopefully more to come soon!

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Snowwolflair on June 02, 2020, 05:34:32 PM
Simply "Sex on a stick", a fantastic model. :D
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 02, 2020, 06:04:44 PM
Very nice work indeed, Alex.
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: RailGooner on June 02, 2020, 06:55:44 PM
Very smart Alex and pretty unique too I imagine - is there another one in N?  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: PennineWagons on June 02, 2020, 07:07:07 PM
Splendid work! Must admit I wasn't sure from the original shots that the maroon colour scheme really suited it, but the lining sets it all off nicely. How about painting the Leader to match?
Also looking at the loco you wonder what kind of forward view the crew must have had on the prototype? It wasn't great on conventional large steamers, but on this thing it must have been a nightmare to see where they were going!
PW
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: Railwaygun on June 03, 2020, 12:58:47 AM
Splendid work! Must admit I wasn't sure from the original shots that the maroon colour scheme really suited it, but the lining sets it all off nicely. How about painting the Leader to match?
Also looking at the loco you wonder what kind of forward view the crew must have had on the prototype? It wasn't great on conventional large steamers, but on this thing it must have been a nightmare to see where they were going!
PW

if you look closely , you can see the periscope!
Title: Re: Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive
Post by: AR on June 04, 2020, 05:35:22 PM
Thanks everyone for the kind comments!

Splendid work! Must admit I wasn't sure from the original shots that the maroon colour scheme really suited it, but the lining sets it all off nicely. How about painting the Leader to match?
Also looking at the loco you wonder what kind of forward view the crew must have had on the prototype? It wasn't great on conventional large steamers, but on this thing it must have been a nightmare to see where they were going!
PW

I am glad the lining brought it all together, I too was having my doubts post-spraying and pre-transfers!

Cheers,

Alex
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