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Title: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 11, 2019, 06:48:08 AM
Hello there!

I'm new here and I'd like to introduce myself: My name is Christoph, I got my first train at age 4 and have tried to build a decent layout eversince. Somehow it never went far... :hmmm: The issue was always either money or time or space and the right theme kept eluding me.

A trip to Cornwall in spring 2017 changed everything as far as model railway is concerned. And I mean: everything! I instantly fell  in love with the country around St Ives and British trains caught my attention (something I had ignored completely in the past). I had to build a layout in British style. That's what had to be done! So I switched from my German 1960s theme to present Cornwall ;D

As "space" is the issue today, the layout had to fit in my small flat, so I switched from H0 scale to N.

Rose-an-Grouse is a semi-fictitious junction based on St Erth. I'm trying to get as many details as possible right but concessions have to be made to the limited space. E.g. the Cornish Mainline had to be reduced to single-track, the platforms had to be shortened by about 30% and some buildings had to be omitted. Most structures are moderately modified Metcalfe kits but some are my own design.

The first presentable corner of the layout (The Bay Line's just leaving for St Ives)
(https://abload.de/img/20190305_1710179kkj1.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190305_1710179kkj1.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20190211_135148rdjy1.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190211_135148rdjy1.jpg)

An earlier picture:
(https://abload.de/img/20181220_125852xokkc.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20181220_125852xokkc.jpg)

A much earlier picture:
(https://abload.de/img/20180727_07455016km5.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20180727_07455016km5.jpg)

More will follow soon. Let me know what you think about it! ;)

Cheers
Christoph
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 11, 2019, 07:41:56 AM
Thatís a very good start Christoph.  :beers:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on March 11, 2019, 07:44:13 AM
Good mornng Christoph and welcome to the forum from someone who lives just down the road frm St Erth.
That looks to be a great start.
It is a great location to model and I look forward to seeing more of your work as you progress.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Innovationgame on March 11, 2019, 07:44:57 AM
Welcome to the forum Christoph.  That looks like an excellent start.  I look forward to future installments.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on March 11, 2019, 08:03:21 AM
This is going to be a great little layout!  :thumbsup:

What a shame it is single line at the ends of the scenic section. I assume there's not a lot of room around the back.

May I ask what the trackwork is, please? Looks like Peco Code 80?

Is it DCC?

Sorry for all the questions!   :beers:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Philip. on March 11, 2019, 08:06:17 AM
It looks fantastic Christoph, I drive past St Erth station every day, so looking forward to seeing more of your layout  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: weave on March 11, 2019, 08:29:05 AM
Hi Christoph,

Welcome aboard. It's nice to wake up to new layout on the Forum. Looks really good.

Great stuff, looking forward to more pics and more of your build.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: dannyboy on March 11, 2019, 09:00:32 AM
Hi Christoph and welcome to the forum. That layout is looking good.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Newportnobby on March 11, 2019, 09:48:05 AM
Excellent work, with some great detailing.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 11, 2019, 12:01:51 PM
Hello everybody and thanks for the warm welcome! :bounce:

This is going to be a great little layout!  :thumbsup:

What a shame it is single line at the ends of the scenic section. I assume there's not a lot of room around the back.

May I ask what the trackwork is, please? Looks like Peco Code 80?

Is it DCC?

Sorry for all the questions!   :beers:

Don't be! ;)

I know it's a shame but 1.8 x 0.6 meters is as good as it gets considering my limited space. The alternative would have been to make the platforms even shorter. So, in the end, reducing the mainline to single-track was the lesser of two evils.

You're right, it's Peco Code 80.

The layout is DCC controlled by Rocrail and an Uhlenbrock IB-COM. It's already fully operational and runs on schedule (saturday schedule only at the moment). Now that everything runs smoothly I'm turning to detailing and landscape.

Good mornng Christoph and welcome to the forum from someone who lives just down the road frm St Erth.
That looks to be a great start.
It is a great location to model and I look forward to seeing more of your work as you progress.

Hey, looks like I've come to the right place! :D St Erth is downright ideal for my plans. Good to meet someone from there! I may have one or two questions on the surroundings in the future ;)

Best regards
Christoph
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: AlexanderJesse on March 11, 2019, 05:27:35 PM
Welcome here. Glad you present your layout also here.

About the size... I would be happy to have that kind of space. So far I got the concession of 24"x16.8" (or A2 format) from SWMBO.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Caz on March 11, 2019, 07:25:34 PM
Welcome to the forum Christolph and what a lovely little layout you are creating, you can't beat the GWR and the West Country.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Philip. on March 11, 2019, 07:29:32 PM
you can't beat the GWR and the West Country.

With Storm Gareth about to wallop us, I'd rather be in the Costa Del Sol  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 11, 2019, 08:48:51 PM
Hello!

@Alexander (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6963): I believe we've met, sir! Servus in die Schweiz! I suppose the missus knows of T gauge? :hmmm:

@Caz (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=202): thanks! Yes, GWR is wunderbar  :D

-----
2044: just caught 1V58 from Glasgow Central... :camera:
(https://abload.de/img/20190311_190347c2jxy.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190311_190347c2jxy.jpg)

Cheers
Christoph
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: RailGooner on March 11, 2019, 08:58:54 PM
Welcome aboard Christoph! :wave: Thanks for sharing some lovely modelling with us. I particularly like your platforms. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: AlexanderJesse on March 11, 2019, 10:54:55 PM
Hello!

@Alexander (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6963): I believe we've met, sir! Servus in die Schweiz! I suppose the missus knows of T gauge? :hmmm:

Well... somebody said that Stummi's that people here might like your layout   :NGF:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 12, 2019, 08:03:41 PM
Hello!

The footbridge at St Erth Station

(https://abload.de/img/20170417_101606l5kih.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20170417_101606l5kih.jpg)

The footbridge at Rose-an-Grouse ;)

(https://abload.de/img/20190312_204540gakue.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190312_204540gakue.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20190312_204633dpj7f.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190312_204633dpj7f.jpg)

Greets
Christoph

Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Train Waiting on March 12, 2019, 08:39:50 PM
Very nice indeed.

John
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on March 12, 2019, 10:11:25 PM
I'm starting to think we have another top gun modeller hwre, Christoph!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 14, 2019, 06:41:40 PM
Welcome aboard Christoph! :wave: Thanks for sharing some lovely modelling with us. I particularly like your platforms. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks, you're welcome! The platforms are by Metcalfe. The printed walling looked a bit dull and sterile for my taste, so I doubled it up with some Vollmer plastic stone sheets which I painted with some grime, rust and lichen. I dabbed the slabs on the asphalt using a stencil. It's been quite a lengthy process but it came out alright :)

Best regards
Christoph
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 14, 2019, 08:41:25 PM
2230: A (still incomplete) test train led by Colas 37 421 is leaving an almost deserted station. 

(https://abload.de/img/20190310_213028akjhq.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190310_213028akjhq.jpg)

Good night
Christoph
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Caz on March 14, 2019, 08:44:14 PM
Great photo Christolph, very atmospheric.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on March 14, 2019, 10:11:28 PM
Yes, very atmospheric. The reflection of the lights on the shiny rails is very prototypical.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 15, 2019, 03:51:22 PM
Great photo Christolph, very atmospheric.   :thumbsup:


Yes, very atmospheric. The reflection of the lights on the shiny rails is very prototypical.  :thumbsup:


Thanks! I can't wait to take some pics of the completed layout with trees an everything. :beers:

Here's a small section where I tried to make a dry stone wall which blends into the terrain. No grass yet... :sorrysign:

(https://abload.de/img/20190225_074915o8jtr.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190225_074915o8jtr.jpg)

The walls are from Javis Scenics, They're made of some sort of resin and won't bend into shape. So I broke them into small pieces of 2-3 cm and glued them on the plaster with wood glue. At the moment, I'm doing a larger part of dry stone wall right at the edge of the backscene to hide the end of the (real) landscape. I figured that I needed something to separate the hill from the background - and the wall works just fine. Plus: I love the look of the dry stone walls although they really scared me when I had to drive the brand-new rented car on those ungodly narrow roads once. It's a miracle that we returned the car undented and with both mirrors still intact :D

I'll be back soon with more pictures.

Cheers
Christoph
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on March 15, 2019, 04:01:37 PM
Hi Christoph.
I do hope you donít mind my making a little suggestion.
Dry stone walls in Cornwall are often termed ďCornish hedgesĒ because the walls are covered with vegetation. Iíve done this a bit on my little Wadebridge layout :
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7881/46246256414_cea2cee115_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dsC9Qw)2B6FD57B-F733-4693-AE2B-202BA35176FE (https://flic.kr/p/2dsC9Qw) by martin scane (https://www.flickr.com/photos/162836309@N02/), on Flickr
Frequently the walls are completely covered in vegetation so donít be afraid to add plenty of greenery. Iíll try to find an on line link which demonstrates the effect better.
Regards
Martin
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on March 15, 2019, 04:03:33 PM
This is a fine example
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/High_Banks_Flanking_a_Country_Lane_-_geograph.org.uk_-_185162.jpg/300px-High_Banks_Flanking_a_Country_Lane_-_geograph.org.uk_-_185162.jpg
This is a granite wall completely covered in greenery. It can catch out the unwary motorist!
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 15, 2019, 04:15:25 PM
Hi Christoph.
I do hope you donít mind my making a little suggestion. [...]

Not at all, Martin! Your walls look fantastic (as does the rest! :thumbsup:) and are quite what I had in mind. I'll add some broom etc. later when everything's in place and looks alright. I'm still not yet satisfied with the colour.

Thanks for the link. Oh yes, I remember... :scowl: Honestly, I'll try to leave some of the stones visible! ;)

Best regards
Christoph
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on March 15, 2019, 07:08:28 PM
Yes, that photo brings back similar memories to Christoph's!

Covering the wall in greenery may well be prototypical, but it seems a shame..... may as well just have made a hedge without that nice stone wall beneath!  :(
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: AlexanderJesse on March 15, 2019, 09:33:48 PM
You could leave off the greenery on some part... Declaring thatit was an incident that destroyed the wall, so it had to be rebuilt in that place

And yes: the last fotos are absolutely great
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 16, 2019, 02:11:59 PM
You could leave off the greenery on some part... Declaring thatit was an incident that destroyed the wall, so it had to be rebuilt in that place

And yes: the last fotos are absolutely great


Thanks! I'm not going to cover them entirely in vegetation, never fear ;)


@all:
Maybe I'll build one of those ridiculously narrow roads and for that I need some advice from you. :helpneededsign:

Does this mockup look right to you? A bay for the oncoming traffic going uphill... (btw: what do you call these?)

(https://abload.de/img/20190316_134610dtkns.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190316_134610dtkns.jpg)

Or should it be the other way round? (Cooper is going downhill)

(https://abload.de/img/20190316_134236cokhp.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190316_134236cokhp.jpg)

Cheers
Christoph
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Newportnobby on March 16, 2019, 03:05:22 PM
I've always known them as 'passing places' and have always given way to traffic heading uphill.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: RailGooner on March 16, 2019, 03:20:19 PM
What Newportnobby said. Though I notice these days that the convention of giving way to uphill traffic is largely ignored, with downhill traffic using their speed to bully uphill traffic into yielding. :( That's certainly the case in Oxford at least.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: dannyboy on March 16, 2019, 07:21:12 PM


([url]https://abload.de/img/20190316_134610dtkns.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190316_134610dtkns.jpg[/url])

Or should it be the other way round? (Cooper is going downhill)



I have about 3 miles of those types of road to negotiate before I get to anything like a decent width road. It is not so bad in the daylight, but at night ....... it can be fun, (I have only dropped a wheel in the ditch twice in twenty years  :thumbsup:). Your mock up looks okay, we have a few designated 'passing places', but it is mostly farm entrances where we pass each other.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 17, 2019, 09:24:53 AM
Hi there,

right now I'm doing the final plaster work which is quite time-consuming. Especially sanding down the future road and parking lot is tedious work and quite unspectacular.

So today, I'll show you an attempt of the transition between the backscene and the real model. Who would think the road ends just 5 millimeters behind the Transit? :hmmm:

Trees are made from sea foam and Woodland turf.

(https://abload.de/img/20190202_115606tnkce.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190202_115606tnkce.jpg)

Cheers
Christoph
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on March 17, 2019, 09:31:05 AM
That bridge looks good and typical of many around this way.
Will you be continung with hedges or walls alongside the road?
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 17, 2019, 10:01:57 AM
That bridge looks good and typical of many around this way.
Will you be continung with hedges or walls alongside the road?

Hello!

Thanks, but I messed this one up by making it far too wide :'( I'm thinking about "narrowing" it down by adding a sidewalk on each side. Lavish vegetation on a bridge is a rare sight, I suppose... :thumbsdown:

There will be walls and hedges on the right hand side but not on the slope to the left. Here I'll do the large group of trees along Station Approach.

Is that orange Volkswagen your's, btw? Looks great - you sure do love the good old T2 over there ;D

Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on March 17, 2019, 10:28:34 AM
That bridge looks good and typical of many around this way.
Will you be continung with hedges or walls alongside the road?

Hello!

Is that orange Volkswagen your's, btw? Looks great - you sure do love the good old T2 over there ;D
Yes thatís Bertie a 72 Westfalia conversion. Great fun.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 17, 2019, 10:42:32 AM
Yes thatís Bertie a 72 Westfalia conversion. Great fun.


Yay, I guess Bertie and Spartacus would get along splendidly :D


Here's some of my work from Friday. The wall should make the transition between model and background easier.

(https://abload.de/img/20190317_1039057lk78.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190317_1039057lk78.jpg)

I made the slope so its edge follows the wire fence in the backscene. At some point, the "foto-fence" will disappear behind some hedges and emerge as a real one.

(https://abload.de/img/20190317_1037054skqi.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190317_1037054skqi.jpg)

Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: AlexanderJesse on March 17, 2019, 12:57:53 PM
Astonishing!

How did you create the dry walls? Using real stones?
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 17, 2019, 01:56:17 PM
Astonishing!

How did you create the dry walls? Using real stones?

I wish! ;D That's "dry stone walling" by Javis Scenics. I got them from Hatton's https://www.hattons.co.uk/36347/Javis_Scenics_JDSWN_Dry_stone_walling/StockDetail.aspx (https://www.hattons.co.uk/36347/Javis_Scenics_JDSWN_Dry_stone_walling/StockDetail.aspx)

With 25p/inch they're not exactly cheap but they look nice and will do the job. I recently watched an interesting video on YT where a guy makes dry stone walls from a mixture of plaster, wood glue and cat litter! :dunce: It sounded intriguing and very affordable, but then it seemed to me like quite a slobbery job and rather something for larger scales.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 19, 2019, 05:05:53 PM
Hello,

here's the latest addition to my layout: the parking lot. It's not complete yet because it still lacks a chainlink fence and crash barriers.

(https://abload.de/img/20190319_172001fojgu.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190319_172001fojgu.jpg)

Can anyone of you recommend some decent ones, btw?? (I already have crash barriers by Gaugemaster/Noch, but they are disappointing at best). Are those by Busch any good?

Don't ever try to paint on sanded-down plaster! One word: :censored: I had to scratch off everything down to the naked cardboard underlay, gave that one a light sanding and painted right over it. The procedure left a quite worn-looking texture to the street surface, so I'll give the road a very used and patchy look whereas the parking lot will be brand-new looking (as is the real thing). The gutter is just painted on the asphalt and outlined with a black marker. The drains are by Langley Models, the lamps by Digikeijs.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: AlexanderJesse on March 19, 2019, 05:46:20 PM
Crash barriers? Why not, as with the dry walls, use material that seems readily available --> Stones. About two to three feet in diameter, but not round,... make them rough
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 19, 2019, 06:47:31 PM
Crash barriers? Why not, as with the dry walls, use material that seems readily available --> Stones. About two to three feet in diameter, but not round,... make them rough

Good idea. But I was thinking about metal ones ;)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: RailGooner on March 19, 2019, 06:52:12 PM
There are masses of barriers on Shapeways Christoph.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 25, 2019, 10:57:31 AM
There are masses of barriers on Shapeways Christoph.


Wow, they have some interesting stuff... I'll keep that site in mind! :) In the meantime, I painted my Gaugemaster/Noch guard rails and now they don't look quite as bad as before. So I guess, I'll stick with those for now.

The road made some progress over the weekend. My worries that it might be "too wide" proved to be unfounded :D

(https://abload.de/img/20190324_150023tbjov.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190324_150023tbjov.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20190325_104432ahkbm.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190325_104432ahkbm.jpg)

I'm still not entirely happy with the yellow road marks. Any suggestions? :help:

(https://abload.de/img/20190325_10450193j7o.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190325_10450193j7o.jpg)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on March 25, 2019, 11:51:41 AM
Thank you for the update.
I see what you mean about the yellow road markings but am struggling for a suggestion.
Maybe, the double yellow parking restriction markings arenít really necessary?
And the diamond pattern outside the station, are the diamonds too big?
Progress looks good though. Keep the updates comng.
Martin
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 25, 2019, 12:25:49 PM
Maybe, the double yellow parking restriction markings arenít really necessary?
And the diamond pattern outside the station, are the diamonds too big?

Martin, thank you for your feedback :) You're right, the diamonds are way too large. I'll redo the pattern anyway and make them smaller. The double yellow lines are what I saw on Google Street View along Station Approach. Where would you let them end and what's the right kind of lines? 
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on March 25, 2019, 12:29:30 PM
I think that Iíd end the double yellow lines just past the railover bridge.
We donít want passengers clogging up the road on either side of the station approach road.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 25, 2019, 03:59:33 PM
I think that Iíd end the double yellow lines just past the railover bridge.
We donít want passengers clogging up the road on either side of the station approach road.

 :hmmm: ...but any vehicle would be clogging up the road if it parked just past the bridge. Two cars can hardly pass each other, let alone an oncoming bus. The earliest point where two vehicles could pass each other safely would be 2 inches ahead of the broad tarmac patch. Does that sound reasonable?

I have to admit that I'm looking at this from a German perspective. In Germany this would be a serious case of "Absolutes Halteverbot" ;D
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on March 25, 2019, 04:50:51 PM
I take your point.
I think generally around here weíd have the lines for a while after the station but not too far.
Itís up to you though.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: cornish yorkie on March 25, 2019, 10:27:42 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
    The photo showing the coach & the transit about to meet is spot on on many Cornish roads, excellent modelling sir  :thumbsup:
    regards Derek (still driving big buses down small cornish lanes)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Milton Rail on March 26, 2019, 09:31:53 AM
Lovely looking layout Christoph, I missed your initial posts, but it is a cracker in the making (not sure if that translates mind!)

Cheers,
Andrew
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LASteve on March 27, 2019, 03:33:30 AM
Great stuff, thanks for sharing! Great modelling.

My wife and I took a trip to Cornwall when we were back in the UK last year - we drove the rental car from London, spent a few days around Padstow and Penzance and dumped the car in Truro and got the train back. After 25 years driving on the right on California roads, it's quite a surprise to re-encounter the rural English roads. We'd rented an SUV too which only added to the thrill. My (American) dear wife spent a lot of the time covering her eyes in the passenger seat, she did that in the Lake District the year before. I had to ask her if she preferred I hit the wall on the left or the tour bus coming the other way on the right.

Good job it was winter and not a ton of tourist traffic. We drove down into Port Isaac one day, I'd been there many years before, but I didn't drive down there. This time was different, I can't believe we didn't take the wing mirrors and all the side panels off the car, plus there was a Ford Transit coming the other way up the hill. It's got to be one-way in summer, surely?

Anyway, fantastic vacation and November in Cornwall is a lovely time - great landscapes, skyscapes, seascapes and no crowds!
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LASteve on March 27, 2019, 03:36:52 AM
A suggestion regarding the yellow lines - I grew up in Winchester, with many narrow streets, and the lines were painted about half the "standard" width, if there is such a thing. Make the lines proportional to the width of the road, if that makes sense.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 27, 2019, 10:11:49 AM
Great stuff, thanks for sharing! Great modelling.

[...] My (American) dear wife spent a lot of the time covering her eyes in the passenger seat

Thanks and lucky you! I had to deal with four (4!) women on board all being like "not so fast!!!", "drive on the left side!!!" (good luck on a 7'-wide road...), "oncoming car! OMG!!!!!" :scowl: :-X I deserve a medal.

Your suggestion of making the lines even thinner is duely noted, yet I'm still struggling about the question how I can make them look a bit better as they are.  :-\

I'll try to do the improved diamond-pattern with a template made from thin cardboard. Maybe it'll work. I'll let you know! :)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on April 01, 2019, 05:07:31 PM
https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/Smileys/NGF/hellosign.gif (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/Smileys/NGF/hellosign.gif)

Today I took care of the road markings. Again. In a first attempt, I painted them with white and yellow crayon. I wasn't too happy with the result. While the white lines looked a bit too pale, the yellow ones turned out greenish on the grey tarmac. The diamond pattern also needed attention, as Martin has already pointed out. More than enough reasons for a makeover.

So now I used some masking tape which I cut into narrow stripes and masked the road for making the yellow sidelines. I dabbed the colour on using an almost dry brush. It worked surprisingly well and took less than an hour to make.

(https://abload.de/img/20190401_154055zpknv.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190401_154055zpknv.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20190401_170515fbkuh.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190401_170515fbkuh.jpg)

The diamond pattern took quite a while longer but it came out nicely. I'll probably improve all the white lines too. The three diagonal parking spots and the "give way" lines are already new. All it takes is a simple pattern made from a piece of paper. The lines are very crisp and much more convincing.

(https://abload.de/img/20190401_170543jvkse.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190401_170543jvkse.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20190401_154128kqkgk.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190401_154128kqkgk.jpg)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: grumbeast on April 01, 2019, 05:29:07 PM
Those double yellow lines look particularly good and the very pale old 'SLOW' looks amazing. 

Great work!
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: dannyboy on April 01, 2019, 05:41:03 PM
Those lines have turned out very well. Another idea to file away.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on April 01, 2019, 07:10:29 PM
That all looks fantastic.
A great job. Well done.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: cornish yorkie on April 01, 2019, 11:02:35 PM
That all looks fantastic.
A great job. Well done.

               :hellosign: Absolutely agreed     :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: chrispearce on April 01, 2019, 11:13:55 PM
Very St. Erth. Fab job so far.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on April 04, 2019, 06:23:52 PM
Two more pics.

The parking lot, now with crash barriers. When painted over, they look quite o.k. Instead of a chainlink fence I used GWR spear fencing as it has a much nicer look to it :)

(https://abload.de/img/20190402_173430nyj65.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190402_173430nyj65.jpg)

Some of the patterns I used for doing the road marking

(https://abload.de/img/20190402_170155n3kzn.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190402_170155n3kzn.jpg)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on April 13, 2019, 04:09:45 PM
Another night shot. This time it's 1C86 "The Cornishman" from London Paddington to Penzance

(https://abload.de/img/20190411_2147550akre.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190411_2147550akre.jpg)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on April 14, 2019, 04:34:43 PM
Today I started to add static grass to my layout. I had never done it before as all my previous projects got stuck long before I could even think of vegetation.

This time it seems to be different and the outcome is quite motivating :)

(https://abload.de/img/20190414_160606y1jnz.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190414_160606y1jnz.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20190414_152858qrkec.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190414_152858qrkec.jpg)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on April 14, 2019, 06:43:44 PM
Agreed. I think that static grass makes a huge difference to layouts visually.
Looks good.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 14, 2019, 07:15:10 PM
worth the time and  the effort


stunning scenery and looking good the ballasting
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on April 14, 2019, 11:38:55 PM
Those double yellow lines look particularly good and the very pale old 'SLOW' looks amazing. 

Great work!

Totally agree. The slow sign looks like the real thing!

Like the new static grass, too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Jimmy77 on April 15, 2019, 12:01:53 PM
Very nice shots! The road markings look excellent, and makes the scene very realistic.

Great job!
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on April 19, 2019, 02:33:48 PM
Hello and thanks for your encouraging comments! ;D

This week I completed the installation of the "down" starter signal "SE6". Can anyone tell me, why this signal has to be shorter than the others?

(https://abload.de/img/20190418_202026a1kk5.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190418_202026a1kk5.jpg)

And I planted some more trees. 2C69 from Bristol Temple Meads has just arrived ;)

(https://abload.de/img/20190419_160427zdj84.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190419_160427zdj84.jpg)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on April 19, 2019, 04:22:14 PM
I think itís simply to aid visibility against the background.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on April 28, 2019, 12:58:00 PM
Update: a forest has started to grow along station approach... ;)

(https://abload.de/img/20190427_1316594ejz7.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190427_1316594ejz7.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20190427_110948mxkge.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190427_110948mxkge.jpg)

...and grew some more today

(https://abload.de/img/20190428_130044c7kix.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190428_130044c7kix.jpg)



Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: grumbeast on April 30, 2019, 02:47:42 PM
I've never seen platform surfaces that look so convincing... Amazing work!
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on May 04, 2019, 02:36:06 PM
I've never seen platform surfaces that look so convincing... Amazing work!


Thanks! :)

Right now it's all about trees, vegetation, and fencing. Here's some new pictures  :camera:

(https://abload.de/img/20190504_1438453jk7r.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190504_1438453jk7r.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20190504_143930nqjl5.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190504_143930nqjl5.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20190504_144240rijii.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190504_144240rijii.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20190504_144318glkfn.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190504_144318glkfn.jpg)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: class37025 on May 04, 2019, 02:45:28 PM
very impressive .... and dare I say inspiring ?

really need to get on with Inverknockie v5.... :-[
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 04, 2019, 03:39:18 PM
Thats an impressive cutting as trains enter/ exit the tunnel, a beautiful backscene which gives depth and a portrayal of the countryside. Equally a very well constructed signal box
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Newportnobby on May 04, 2019, 05:01:56 PM
Excellent work, sir
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LASteve on May 04, 2019, 07:07:07 PM
That's some tremendous modelling there. I love the scenics that you're developing. Excellent job!
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on May 04, 2019, 07:08:31 PM
Thatís an impressive cutting and tunnel mouth.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on May 08, 2019, 07:09:35 PM
:thankyousign:

After years of fruitless attempts it's very rewarding to see that at last a layout starts to take shape! :D

(https://abload.de/img/20190506_0750168akdk.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190506_0750168akdk.jpg)

Mailman was here with the latest addition to the fleet:

(https://abload.de/img/20190507_192143ljkpk.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190507_192143ljkpk.jpg)

Sadly, I'll have to send this one back. The Dapol 68 is a great looking model but qc seems to be non-existent.  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on May 08, 2019, 11:11:06 PM
What's wrong with it?
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: jpendle on May 09, 2019, 03:50:35 AM
I've got 3 DCC ready CL68's fitted with Zimo chips they all work great.

What's the problem with the one you have?

John P
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on May 09, 2019, 05:35:06 AM
It's got marks all over one wheel as if the dog chewed on it. Then there's one bent wiper, the windscreen sits half-loose in the frame and there's a rather big smudge of glue on the yellow panel around the glazing of one front lamp. And they managed to fit two left buffers on one side. Whoever put this loco together obviously didn't care too much... :scowl:
But I still want a 68! :thumbsup: It's not exactly the most common visitor on the Cornish Mainline but I understand that 68s still appear at Penzance from time to time.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on May 09, 2019, 06:32:02 AM
Heck! You sure it's a new one?
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Mr Sprue on May 09, 2019, 06:52:48 AM
Superb modeling and attention to detail, the best I've seen on here in a short while!

Car park and road markings I feel let layouts down when small detail like this is overlooked and not done properly.  However your markings really do add a realistic touch, along with those patches of tarmac where the workman have been!

Well done :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on May 09, 2019, 05:42:13 PM
Heck! You sure it's a new one?

A question one might ask oneself... :hmmm:

I got it from Hatton's and they instantly suggested to send it back as it is. No complaints here.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on May 19, 2019, 06:08:05 PM
Finished the small group of trees today :claphappy:

(https://abload.de/img/20190519_18535119jcl.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190519_18535119jcl.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20190519_185256rkkxl.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190519_185256rkkxl.jpg)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 19, 2019, 06:20:40 PM
thank you for sharing.lovely ballasting by the way
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on May 19, 2019, 06:31:44 PM
Brilliant.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: AlexanderJesse on May 19, 2019, 07:32:35 PM
A really superb little forest.
 :claphappy: :claphappy:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: GreyWolf on May 20, 2019, 06:06:42 AM
Finished the small group of trees today :claphappy:

([url]https://abload.de/img/20190519_18535119jcl.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190519_18535119jcl.jpg[/url])

([url]https://abload.de/img/20190519_185256rkkxl.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://abload.de/image.php?img=20190519_185256rkkxl.jpg[/url])


Excellent cops of trees ... have you / would you mind sharing how you did them?

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on May 20, 2019, 05:43:24 PM
Thanks! :laugh:

Excellent cops of trees ... have you / would you mind sharing how you did them?

Cheers  :beers:

Not at all, but there are loads of tutorials on YT which explain it better than I ever could. Short version:

- pick a piece of seafoam (e.g. Heki) and roughly trim it to the desired shape with scissors
- let it soak in warm water for a couple of minutes
- then dunk it in a bowl of thinned down pva glue (about 2:1)
- take it out and let it dry thoroughly. The glue will make the material a little less brittle
- give your tree a light coating of dark grey varnish and let it dry again
- spray it with spray adhesive and roll it lightly in a bowl or box of coarse turf (I'm using Woodland scenics T64 and T65). Let it dry for a couple of minutes
- go over lightly with hair spray, roll it again in turf and spray it again. Repeat until you're satisfied
- go over heavily with hair spray to finish your tree.

That's my way of making seafoam trees. There may be better methods, but mine turned out to work well enough for my purpose.  :unimpressed:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on May 31, 2019, 05:35:41 PM
A little update.

I added the last length of crash barrier to the parking lot. Some more weeds and bushes grow on the slope and I started experimenting with station signs.

Can anybody tell me what font I should use here? Calibri is close, I think, but not close enough...

(https://abload.de/img/20190531_181635gakfz.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190531_181635gakfz.jpg)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 31, 2019, 05:44:58 PM
Sans serif. Theres a website re station signs depending what era you model
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Paddy on May 31, 2019, 06:01:24 PM
A lot of railway signage uses Gill Sans font.  There are versions of this that can be downloaded for free.  Arial is very close to Gill Sans as well (especially in N gauge)!

As a matter of interest, how did you do your road markings?

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 31, 2019, 06:26:01 PM
check this out ;

http://tracksidesigns.co.uk/epages/950001489.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950001489/Categories/N_Gauge (http://tracksidesigns.co.uk/epages/950001489.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950001489/Categories/N_Gauge)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_Alphabet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_Alphabet)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on May 31, 2019, 06:26:50 PM
As a matter of interest, how did you do your road markings?
Paddy

With these and an almost dry brush ;)

(https://abload.de/img/20190402_170155n3kzn.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190402_170155n3kzn.jpg)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on May 31, 2019, 06:32:46 PM
check this out ;

[url]http://tracksidesigns.co.uk/epages/950001489.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950001489/Categories/N_Gauge[/url] ([url]http://tracksidesigns.co.uk/epages/950001489.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950001489/Categories/N_Gauge[/url])

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_Alphabet[/url] ([url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_Alphabet[/url])


Interesting! But they don't seem to cover present day.

Having seen Gill Sans, I think I'll stick with my Calibri signs. The writing's so tiny that those minor differences hardly matter.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 31, 2019, 06:44:34 PM
for the lower quadrant ;


https://www.buffersmodelrailways.com/tiny-signs-tsn22-br-modern-image-station-signs-n-scale (https://www.buffersmodelrailways.com/tiny-signs-tsn22-br-modern-image-station-signs-n-scale)


https://www.sankeyscenics.co.uk/2mm-n-br-modern-page-1/4588161727 (https://www.sankeyscenics.co.uk/2mm-n-br-modern-page-1/4588161727)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: njee20 on May 31, 2019, 07:16:34 PM
I thought most signs were ďTransportĒ font, road signs certainly are. Sure it can be acquired somewhere!
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: dannyboy on May 31, 2019, 07:32:23 PM
Here you are -

https://www.roads.org.uk/fonts (https://www.roads.org.uk/fonts)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on May 31, 2019, 07:34:35 PM
I thought most signs were ďTransportĒ font, road signs certainly are. Sure it can be acquired somewhere!

Yes, road signs are "Transport" but it seems that stations signs use a different font. But as far as I'm concerned, I'm good with the status quo for now. As I said: the signs are so tiny that it really doesn't matter that much ;)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: RailGooner on May 31, 2019, 07:39:54 PM
This is a good font ( :doh:) of information on UK railway fonts:

 https://www.strathpefferjunction.com/british-railway-typefaces-fonts/ (https://www.strathpefferjunction.com/british-railway-typefaces-fonts/)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on May 31, 2019, 09:18:24 PM
This is a good font ( :doh:) of information on UK railway fonts:

 https://www.strathpefferjunction.com/british-railway-typefaces-fonts/ (https://www.strathpefferjunction.com/british-railway-typefaces-fonts/)

The pun never stops here :D

"Rail Alphabet", that's the one! Great information, thanks a lot! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Paddy on May 31, 2019, 11:13:51 PM
As a matter of interest, how did you do your road markings?
Paddy

With these and an almost dry brush ;)

(https://abload.de/img/20190402_170155n3kzn.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190402_170155n3kzn.jpg)

Thank you - excellent idea. Did you make these yourself?

Paddy
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on June 01, 2019, 06:43:25 AM
Thank you - excellent idea. Did you make these yourself?

Yes. All you need is a piece of paper and a sharp hobby knive. For the double yellow lines I cut some masking tape to narrow stripes and masked the "asphalt". Like so:

(https://abload.de/img/20190401_154055zpknv.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190401_154055zpknv.jpg)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 01, 2019, 06:56:29 AM
looking good - may try that myself  !!!
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Paddy on June 01, 2019, 02:39:16 PM
Thanks LowerQuadrant - I will give this a go on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.

Paddy
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on June 02, 2019, 05:15:51 PM
Wow, this backdrop works pretty well on both sides... intriguing :hmmm:

(https://abload.de/img/20190602_1755085kj2e.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190602_1755085kj2e.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20190602_1757573pk1k.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190602_1757573pk1k.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20190602_175721iokfx.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190602_175721iokfx.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20190602_175638uwjth.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190602_175638uwjth.jpg)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 02, 2019, 05:19:03 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
 Not wrong there mate that`s looking superb  :thumbsup:
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 02, 2019, 06:21:55 PM
stunning  !!! realistic backscene
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Newportnobby on June 02, 2019, 07:41:44 PM
That looks excellent
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on June 02, 2019, 07:42:32 PM
Really nice work.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: dannyboy on June 02, 2019, 07:45:04 PM
Those back scenes really look like they belong.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on June 18, 2019, 12:16:05 PM
 :thankyousign:

A new addition has arrived today! Here's a quick snapshot:

57 603 "Tintagel Castle" with 2E75 saturday-only service from St Erth to Plymouth.

(https://abload.de/img/20190618_12580729jdo.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190618_12580729jdo.jpg)

Guess I'll have to make do with HST coaches for now. Now that Dapol has announced the Mk3 sleepers, I hope that they will eventually make some loco-hauled GWR-seating coaches too.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on June 18, 2019, 04:37:12 PM
Looks good.
I really like the 57s.
By way of comparison , hereís the real Tintagel Castle reversing the Night Riviera stock into Long Rock Depot, Penzance yesterday morning.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48086720186_a5fc643094_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ggg1Aw)048C5C6A-565F-492D-8A1D-A4D80F8FFEB5 (https://flic.kr/p/2ggg1Aw) by martin scane (https://www.flickr.com/photos/162836309@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 18, 2019, 04:47:12 PM
Thanks for the superb photo at penzance
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on June 18, 2019, 05:04:39 PM
[...] hereís the real Tintagel Castle reversing the Night Riviera stock into Long Rock Depot, Penzance yesterday morning.
Great picture! :heart2: With a little luck she'll be hauling the night riviera from 16 to 17 august. Bought my ticket last week :claphappy:

(https://abload.de/img/20190618_174450eijxp.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190618_174450eijxp.jpg)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 18, 2019, 05:11:43 PM
Sampling the bar and its sales to exeter? And the 57 over the brunel tamar bridge and the devon banks?
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on June 18, 2019, 05:26:41 PM
Sampling the bar and its sales to exeter? And the 57 over the brunel tamar bridge and the devon banks?

That's what I had in mind, yes sir! :D
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 18, 2019, 05:41:37 PM
the youtube clip whetted my appetite on my trip last year, my discovery landed me in the lounge between reading and westbury and i woke to darkness at plymouth and the sunrise entering penzance !!! at st michael's mount ! wow
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: PostModN66 on June 18, 2019, 05:56:36 PM
Really nice layout Christophe.

I don't think I have looked before at this thread, possibly because the name sounds old-fashioned so I thought it was a steam era (or modern image) layout!!!

That doesn't really make any sense - but it teaches me a lesson not to be too era-ist!!!

Keep up the good work,

Cheers Jon  :)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on June 19, 2019, 06:14:26 AM
[...] and i woke to darkness at plymouth and the sunrise entering penzance !!! at st michael's mount ! wow

 :drool: Beautiful! St Michael's Mount is on my list. Nice hike via Long Rock Depot! ;)

Really nice layout Christophe.

I don't think I have looked before at this thread, possibly because the name sounds old-fashioned so I thought it was a steam era (or modern image) layout!!!

Thx! Now that you mention it, it does sound a bit like steam-era :hmmm: Never mind, because steam-era will start shortly on my layout. I've made another purchase...  :bounce:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 19, 2019, 06:22:30 AM
I have always admired the views over brunels bridge/ the tamar, saltash, around totnes and along the seawall at dawlish, teignmouth
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on June 20, 2019, 09:15:18 AM
Look what dragged the CAT in... :D

(https://abload.de/img/20190620_093913fmjk7.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190620_093913fmjk7.jpg)

It quickly turned out that the valve gear stands out too far. She'd pass neither the platforms nor speed signs or ground signals :doh: :doh:

I'm afraid a foto model is all she'll ever be on this layout. At least the price was quite reasonable.

Guess it's all diesel for me :-[
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Newportnobby on June 20, 2019, 09:39:32 AM
Good to see 'Tornado' hauling a failed modern loco ;)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 20, 2019, 09:57:52 AM
livery -wise preference here tornado, not that loco in a modern vinyl - each to their own
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on June 23, 2019, 01:36:18 PM
The Metcalfe platform canopy with the glass roof is a beautiful construction. I installed 8 LED several months ago. Today I decided to paint the struts in FGW-blue (should have done this before assembly...) and added a partition wall which is similar to St Erth.

(https://abload.de/img/20190623_141302jljyn.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190623_141302jljyn.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20190623_141328r9j1p.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190623_141328r9j1p.jpg)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 23, 2019, 01:45:39 PM
Looking good and realistic
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 23, 2019, 01:47:47 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
   Very nice modelling & looking very St Erth   :thumbsup:
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: GreyWolf on June 24, 2019, 06:14:09 AM
Quote from: LowerQuadrant
... I installed 8 LED several months ago. Today I decided to paint the struts in FGW-blue ... and added a partition wall which is similar to St Erth.
(https://abload.de/img/20190623_141328r9j1p.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190623_141328r9j1p.jpg)

Excellent job ... can I ask where you got the LEDs from?

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on June 24, 2019, 05:29:26 PM
Excellent job ... can I ask where you got the LEDs from?

Thanks!

I got them from Ebay. Just search for "LED 3mm cold white"

I wired them in a parallel pattern with one 300 Ohms resistor, which isn't ideal but as my power supply does only yield 3,5 Volts, I guess I'm okay...  :idea:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on June 30, 2019, 08:59:55 AM
Some more details from the last few days :)

People are starting to bring the scene to life. A group of backpackers from Manchester waiting for the 9:30 CrossCountry service to take them home...

(https://abload.de/img/20190630_0920545cjny.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190630_0920545cjny.jpg)

Car keys are at the bottom of the handbag would be my first guess...

(https://abload.de/img/20190630_092136odklr.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190630_092136odklr.jpg)

A young couple arriving at the station for the service to Porthminster (I'm not going to  call it St Ives as this isn't actually St Erth ;D )

(https://abload.de/img/20190630_092328nkk2m.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190630_092328nkk2m.jpg)

A not-quite-as-young couple. As befits a loving spousse, she's patietly carrying his equipment :D

(https://abload.de/img/20190630_092521qzjtv.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190630_092521qzjtv.jpg)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 30, 2019, 09:13:44 AM
thank you - looking good
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on June 30, 2019, 09:17:57 AM
Great pictures.  :thumbsup:

Those figures are very good. Are they Preiser?
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on June 30, 2019, 09:25:16 AM
Great pictures.  :thumbsup:

Those figures are very good. Are they Preiser?

Thanks! Indeed, they are. It's a pity that figures in 148th scale seem to be a rare thing. Those "Preiserleins", as we call them in Germany, are actually a bit too small.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 30, 2019, 09:33:35 AM
very realistic ballasting and scenics - certainly gives that cornish feel to your layout.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Train Waiting on June 30, 2019, 09:43:29 AM
Lovely photographs; thank you very much.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on June 30, 2019, 10:02:37 AM
Great pictures.  :thumbsup:

Those figures are very good. Are they Preiser?

Thanks! Indeed, they are. It's a pity that figures in 148th scale seem to be a rare thing. Those "Preiserleins", as we call them in Germany, are actually a bit too small.

Preiser figures have been around for a long time. I think that even the 4mm scale versions may be a little undersize, being for HO, rather than OO.

I'll bet all the figures at Minatur Wunderland are Preiser!

Fantastic figures, but of course you pay for the quality.

They look great on your layout!  :thumbsup:

Do they still do unpainted sets?
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on June 30, 2019, 11:09:55 AM
I'll bet all the figures at Minatur Wunderland are Preiser!

Fantastic figures, but of course you pay for the quality.

They look great on your layout!  :thumbsup:

Do they still do unpainted sets?

With about 1,50Ä per figure they're not exactly cheap. But on the other hand, I wouldn't want to paint e.g. one of those backpackers for this kind of money... btw: the figures are still "Made in Germany" but painted in Mauritius.

There's still a number of unpainted sets. And afaik the Miniatur Wunderland is mostly inhabited by Preiser figures. I've been there four years ago. I heard that after completing Monaco they wanted to turn to France and maybe Britain.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on June 30, 2019, 12:26:38 PM
Thanks!

I bought a pack of unpainted figures many years ago here in Australia, but never got around to painting them and where they are now at Chez Bealman could be anybody's guess!

I understand Minatur Wunderland have a British scene in mind. I see from the eletter they did a great job on Venice!

Love your layout, looking forward to more.  :beers:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on June 30, 2019, 01:46:48 PM
And now for something completely different:

What are the yellow plastic boxes for that can often be seen on platforms? Is there a company that makes them in n gauge?

The same question goes for litter bins, modern image phoneboxes and GWR-platform benches. :helpneededsign:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 30, 2019, 01:53:41 PM
would be worth researching :


bh enterprises

https://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog (https://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog)

/Shire_Scenes_1_160.htmlhttps://northwesternmodels.co.uk/blog/cast-iron-platform-benches/


langley, kjb

i would phone / email around and see what suits your needs
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: RailGooner on June 30, 2019, 02:24:20 PM
And now for something completely different:

What are the yellow plastic boxes for that can often be seen on platforms?
...

Sounds like de-icing grit for winter treatment of pedestrian surfaces - platforms etc.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on June 30, 2019, 02:34:31 PM
And now for something completely different:

What are the yellow plastic boxes for that can often be seen on platforms?
...

Sounds like de-icing grit for winter treatment of pedestrian surfaces - platforms etc.
Sand or gravel box would have been my first guess, but now that you mention it they do look like tool boxes. That explains why they're locked. Do you know anyone who makes them?
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 30, 2019, 02:42:23 PM
I would try the links i texted or create own with plastikard. Mark at shrewford modelled them i thought, however look who i found :


*****
https://www.scalemodelscenery.co.uk/ax056-n-3d-printed-grit-binsalt-box-pack-of-4-n2mm1148-1729-p.asp (https://www.scalemodelscenery.co.uk/ax056-n-3d-printed-grit-binsalt-box-pack-of-4-n2mm1148-1729-p.asp)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Newportnobby on June 30, 2019, 05:33:19 PM
For modern station stuff look no further than the forum N'Porium.......

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=classifieds;cat=18 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=classifieds;cat=18)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on July 01, 2019, 09:17:21 AM
Re: the unpainted Preiser figures, I see they're still available here.... A$60 for 120, as opposed to A$20-30 for 6 painted.

Still, you get what ya pays for, I guess.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on July 01, 2019, 12:34:17 PM
Thanks for your help. The litter bins look good for example. I'm very sceptic though about most of the printed items, especially when the H0/00 model is shown. I guess I'll try to make some saltd boxes out of cardboard.

Re: the unpainted Preiser figures, I see they're still available here.... A$60 for 120, as opposed to A$20-30 for 6 painted.

Still, you get what ya pays for, I guess.  :thumbsup:

In Germany the figures usually sell for 7,50-10 Ä for 6 painted figures or 20 Ä, give or take, for 120 unpainted (and I consider the latter very self-confident as it is). Don't get skinned alive!  :scowl:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on July 06, 2019, 06:07:14 PM
Brace yourselves for the first moving pictures of Rose-an-Grouse! :D

Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 06, 2019, 06:10:16 PM
thanks that was a smooth station approach and entry
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on July 06, 2019, 07:08:08 PM
Splendid
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 07, 2019, 12:28:29 AM
Splendid
:hellosign: I'll second that
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on July 07, 2019, 02:15:34 PM
A day at Rose-an-Grouse, Pt.1

The date is saturday, 8 July 2017.

Unfortunately I got up too late for the two earliest trains :D So we'll have to start with...

The 06:38 CrossCountry service to Gloucester.
(https://abload.de/img/dscn0639kwjyo.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=dscn0639kwjyo.jpg)

A 150 arrives from Penzance at 06:49 and will continue to Porthminster (St Ives). The semaphore signal already shows "caution".
(https://abload.de/img/dscn0641qqjss.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=dscn0641qqjss.jpg)

The 07:00 to London Paddington is the first HST of the day.
(https://abload.de/img/dscn0644eckrv.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=dscn0644eckrv.jpg)

The 07:29 HST to London Paddington
(https://abload.de/img/dscn0646o6kub.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=dscn0646o6kub.jpg)

The 150 from Porthminster arrived at 07:37 and will go back at 08:00.
(https://abload.de/img/dscn0654xcjbb.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=dscn0654xcjbb.jpg)

The 08:36 service to Gloucester.
(https://abload.de/img/dscn0657hbk3b.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=dscn0657hbk3b.jpg)

To be continued :)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 07, 2019, 02:17:21 PM
impressive station building
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Newportnobby on July 07, 2019, 03:55:57 PM
Peripherals and reflections aside, you've made a hugely realistic setting and all looks excellent.
Very nice indeed.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 07, 2019, 04:03:04 PM
Splendid selection of views :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on July 07, 2019, 04:05:16 PM
That is lovely.
It completely has the feel of a Cornish branchline station in the current day.
I can see myself catching one of those trains.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 07, 2019, 07:37:36 PM
That is lovely.
It completely has the feel of a Cornish branchline station in the current day.
I can see myself catching one of those trains.

:hellosign:. I'll second that, looks brilliant  :thumbsup:
   regards Derek.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 07, 2019, 07:43:45 PM
just feels like we are all standing on your platform waiting for various trains to our destinations, you have captured the scene
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on July 09, 2019, 11:37:05 AM
Another (very) short clip:



enjoy! ;)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 09, 2019, 11:58:17 AM
thanks for that

atmospheric with the station lights on and the diesel horn !
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: keithbythe sea on July 10, 2019, 07:19:45 AM
Looking very good.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on July 10, 2019, 07:25:24 AM
Great pics, great clip.

I look forward to the next episode of a day in the life!  :beers:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on July 12, 2019, 06:27:29 AM
 :thankyousign: have another one:



Cheers
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 12, 2019, 06:33:09 AM
Thanks for that you tube clip. Realistic and well lit station
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 12, 2019, 02:30:10 PM
 :hellosign:
  Many thanks another superbly realistic video
        regards Derek
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on July 26, 2019, 01:12:03 PM
 :hellosign:

Another short video:

Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 26, 2019, 01:16:22 PM
Thank you. Looking good
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 26, 2019, 11:23:12 PM
Thank you. Looking good
:hellosign: I`ll second that
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on July 28, 2019, 08:54:02 PM
 :thankyousign:

I did this little "Making Of" today. It's basically a compilation of pictures I already posted here

Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on October 03, 2019, 08:51:16 AM
:hellosign:

Here's what happened during the last two months:

The signal box is now complete with lighting and interior (Ratio kit)
(https://abload.de/img/20190929_152516lrkdj.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190929_152516lrkdj.jpg)

I had no idea that the valve gear of n-gauge steam locos stands out that much :hmmm: After some modifications (of the track, not the loco!) "Tornado" can now at least run on track 1 without getting stuck or scraping along the platform walls.
(https://abload.de/img/20190929_152826osk3u.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20190929_152826osk3u.jpg)

The latest addition to the fleet: GBRf 66789 and some Mk1 coaches :thumbsup:
(https://abload.de/img/20191001_1742361jkik.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20191001_1742361jkik.jpg)

Cheers!
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: dannyboy on October 03, 2019, 08:59:48 AM
Some very nice work, my compliments.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on October 03, 2019, 09:15:08 AM
Good to get an update on this superb layout.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on October 03, 2019, 09:17:33 AM
Thanks for the update..
A lovely layout indeed.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on October 03, 2019, 09:37:26 AM
The well lit signal box is a lovely touch
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: maridunian on October 03, 2019, 09:45:34 AM
:thankyousign:

I did this little "Making Of" today. It's basically a compilation of pictures I already posted here

Thank you very much for this - have only just found your thread and the video's a great way to get up to speed on the story so far!

Mike
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Modern N gauge on October 04, 2019, 11:13:22 AM
That's a lovely layout and very inspirational, well done
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: cornish yorkie on October 06, 2019, 12:07:34 PM
 :hellosign:.  :greatpicturessign:
  Many thanks for the updates, looking good  :thumbsup:
         regards Derek
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on December 04, 2019, 09:28:39 PM
 :hellosign:
and thanks a lot for your comments! ;D It's been another two months of (very) slow but steady progress.

Here's the staff building (or whatever its purpose was) at St Erth station. It's a picture from my first stay in Cornwall in 2017 which gave me the idea of building a British-themed layout after all.
(https://abload.de/img/20170417_101615ackj28.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20170417_101615ackj28.jpg)

And here's my interpretation made from some scrap material from a dismanteled Metcalfe building
(https://abload.de/img/20191101_104236byjs5.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20191101_104236byjs5.jpg)

I've decided to do a complete rebuild of the station building as I was never quite satisfied with its overall appearance and the lighting in particular. This time I built it with interior and better lighting including 15 cold-white LEDs under the canopy and warm-white LEDs within the building.
(https://abload.de/img/20191020_114609avkx7.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20191020_114609avkx7.jpg)

Here are some new night shots of Rose-an-Grouse, now with all lighting installed
(https://abload.de/img/20191201_205141mojom.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20191201_205141mojom.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20191201_204901rwkw7.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20191201_204901rwkw7.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20191201_180406ilkpk.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20191201_180406ilkpk.jpg)

I hope you like it! ;)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Train Waiting on December 05, 2019, 07:06:47 PM

I hope you like it! ;)

I most certainly do!

Many thanks for the excellent photographs.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on December 05, 2019, 07:37:17 PM
Excellent work and what a fine job you have made of the little hut.
St Erth is, indeed, a charming little station which retains its quintessential branch line feel to this day.
 
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: PeteW on December 05, 2019, 07:44:12 PM
I hope you like it! ;)

I'll give that a Wow!! Excellent modelling  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on December 05, 2019, 09:53:07 PM
Well  lit statiion scene
 Very realistic but bright does it consume electricity
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on December 06, 2019, 05:33:10 AM
Well  lit statiion scene
 Very realistic but bright does it consume electricity
In reality, the lights are not nearly as bright. This is because of my camera. I've dimmed the LEDs down quite a bit.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: chrism on December 06, 2019, 06:37:39 AM
:hellosign:
and thanks a lot for your comments! ;D It's been another two months of (very) slow but steady progress.

Here's the staff building (or whatever its purpose was) at St Erth station. It's a picture from my first stay in Cornwall in 2017 which gave me the idea of building a British-themed layout after all.
(https://abload.de/img/20170417_101615ackj28.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20170417_101615ackj28.jpg)

Would it not have been the waiting room for that platform?
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on December 06, 2019, 06:44:08 AM
Continues to impress!
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on December 15, 2019, 05:21:22 PM
Just a few snapshots.

Note the lit telephone box. Fitted some interior too.
(https://abload.de/img/20191215_175453oykq1.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20191215_175453oykq1.jpg)

The horses make a nice little scene on the hump bridge
(https://abload.de/img/20191208_130142glkle.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20191208_130142glkle.jpg)

A little experiment I did today...
(https://abload.de/img/20191215_174500d4j02.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20191215_174500d4j02.jpg)

For the departure board I just painted a strip of clear plastic film black, scratched some lines away and painted it over with light ochre. The box is lit by a very small LED. It clearly takes two to light the board evenly. I already have some ideas to improve this and make it look a bit more convincing. I'll keep you informed how it worked out ;)

Cheers
Christoph
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on December 15, 2019, 05:37:58 PM
 Very welcomming on these cold evenings
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 15, 2019, 07:48:52 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:
   Many thanks Christopher, all looking superb
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on December 21, 2019, 03:05:44 PM
Something I made yesterday. Shame that you won't see much of it once it is in place... :D

(https://abload.de/img/20191216_091155aw7kuc.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20191216_091155aw7kuc.jpg)

Regards
Christoph
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: maridunian on December 21, 2019, 03:21:07 PM
I love the gilt lettering!

Mike
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on December 21, 2019, 10:49:49 PM
How did you make that?

Is it a 3D print?
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on December 22, 2019, 07:36:59 AM
How did you make that?

Is it a 3D print?

Peco Modelscene No. 5191  ;) I just painted it new and dry brushed the lettering.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on December 22, 2019, 07:58:16 AM
Thanks!

Really cool.  :beers:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on January 12, 2020, 12:03:40 PM
Tried to make some palm trees today:

(https://abload.de/img/20200111_125634u0jet.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20200111_125634u0jet.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/20200112_1224511.jpgw0kho.png) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20200112_1224511.jpgw0kho.png)

They look a bit shaggy though. Maybe I'll try again using bristles of a paint brush...
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on January 12, 2020, 12:07:12 PM
Actually, they look pretty good to me.
What did you use please?
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 12, 2020, 09:09:49 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
 Agree wiyh Martin, palm trees in Cornwall come in all shapes & sizes
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Rowlie on January 12, 2020, 09:54:40 PM
Just caught up with this fantastic layout, very inspirational thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on January 13, 2020, 06:44:12 AM
Thanks! ;D

What did you use please?

Very straightforward: wire, paper, acrylic paint and a few drops of superglue ;)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on January 13, 2020, 07:54:23 AM
Seem a bit thin, but I'm comparing them to Aussie ones  ;) :beers:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: chrispearce on January 15, 2020, 10:33:48 PM
One thing I have always loved about Cornwall - Palm Trees. IN ENGLAND!!!! Thanks Gulf Stream.

Who needs to holiday in the West Indies? Saves a fortune on holiday travel.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on February 08, 2020, 03:22:10 PM
 :hellosign:

I fitted a Mk1 coach with a flashing tail light today:

(https://abload.de/img/dscn0665s7kri.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=dscn0665s7kri.jpg)

The tail light is fully operational. I used a Train Tech kit (AL1) which had to be quite heavily modified to fit in the coach without removing the interior. The LED type 0603 I used is pretty accurate in size. It is battery powered and triggered by motion. It stops automatically after 4-5 minutes when no further movement is detected.

It works great but I'll never do that again. At least not today :D

Cheers
Christoph
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: sacredprune on February 08, 2020, 08:39:22 PM
Hello Christoph,

Sorry to bug you in this forum, too :) , but I have one more question about your great work. So, It is always turned on and gets activated by motion. Does that mean that the battery is always powering the tail lights? Then I would be wondering how long the battery will last. Or did you also include a power switch to turn it off when the coach goes to... sleep? Or maybe I didnít get it (most likely :) ). Anyway, amazing work :)

Cheers, Mark
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on February 08, 2020, 09:50:50 PM
Hello Christoph,

[...] So, It is always turned on and gets activated by motion. Does that mean that the battery is always powering the tail lights? Then I would be wondering how long the battery will last. Or did you also include a power switch to turn it off when the coach goes to... sleep? Or maybe I didnít get it (most likely :) ). Anyway, amazing work :)

Cheers, Mark

Hello Mark,

there's no switch. The little circuit board has a motion detector which is triggered by the slightest shudder. Even clapping your hand nearby may set it off. As soon as no more motion is detected, the unit automatically cuts power after a couple of minutes. According to the manufacturer the battery should last for quite a while.

I hope that answers your question  :)

Cheers
Christoph
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on February 08, 2020, 10:44:05 PM
Brilliant work.  :thumbsup:

Any pics of the the installation inside? I'd love to see inside!

Yeah, the battery should last for ages.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on February 09, 2020, 09:51:39 AM
Brilliant work.  :thumbsup:

Any pics of the the installation inside? I'd love to see inside!

Thanks! ;D

Once you have separated the circuit board from the bulky battery clip, the installation is pretty straightforward. All components are held in place with some Blu-Tack. I could have cut out some of the plastic around the roof section to hide the flashing unit even more...

(https://abload.de/img/dscn067999kkh.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=dscn067999kkh.jpg)

...but as you can see in the second picture there's not much visible anyway:

(https://abload.de/img/dscn0680k0jju.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=dscn0680k0jju.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/dscn0671eajll.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=dscn0671eajll.jpg)

Here's a short video:



Cheers!

Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on February 09, 2020, 10:27:19 AM
Awesome! Thanks for posting the insides!  :thumbsup:

The video is great. Not only does the flashing tail light look good, but the station lighting is fantastic.

At first glance, you'd think you were looking at a nighttime video of the real thing!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on February 16, 2020, 06:32:38 PM
@Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) Thanks mate! :)

Today I fitted the canopy with LED lit departure boards. Unfortunately they look quite terrible from a closer distance so I'm calling this experiment a failure.

(https://abload.de/img/dscn0682uhkbr.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=dscn0682uhkbr.jpg)

Out printer at work is able to reproduce extremely tiny (and still crisp) characters on PVC foil but the light bleeds through the black colour. Looks: :thumbsup:, function: :thumbsdown:

So I tried something a lot more basic: I applied a coat of black colour on one side and scratched some lines away... not quite the Real McCoy. Has anyone of you done something similar before?

Any suggestions? :helpneededsign:

My personal favourite solution, of course, are working OLED displays :laugh3:
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Bealman on February 16, 2020, 10:36:42 PM
There's a review of working boards in the December RM. They're for 00, unfortunately, but the article suggests they could be used as big station concourse display in N.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: lil chris on February 16, 2020, 10:50:38 PM
Very nice layout and those tail lights are very effective.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on February 21, 2020, 04:11:42 PM
There's a review of working boards in the December RM. They're for 00, unfortunately, but the article suggests they could be used as big station concourse display in N.

Those are the departure boards by Train Tech. Nice gimmick but not quite what I'm looking for. I'm not even sure if there are such tiny panels yet :D

And now for something completely different:

Today I was able to fix a very annoying problem... the HST finally has marker lights fitted :bounce:

(https://abload.de/img/dscn0686dojj1.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=dscn0686dojj1.jpg)

Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: sacredprune on February 24, 2020, 05:00:20 AM
Good Morning,

you are moving in such amazing spheres of detail... I wish I could say anything else but great work :) Or... maybe I can...  ::) I don't think this will lead to any positive result but for a house that didn't make it on my layout (was too big in the end) I once made some lighted signs for the shops. I used overhead projection sheets and printed the sign inversely: It looked quite good setting the right intensity of light.

Well, now, I just thought about a two layer technique as version 2.0 that could work for your problem, too:
- layer one would be the printed overhead projection sheet
- layer two the woodland scenics light diffusing film.
I dont know if it would get too thick but with a nano led behind the two sheets it could be worth a thought...? If it's not good enough for the purpose you need - at least it could be for my shop signs :)

Have a nice week and cheers, Mark
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on March 02, 2020, 05:32:31 PM
 :hellosign:

Last weekend I decided to solve the "Cyclops" problem with the Dapol HST once and for all.

(https://abload.de/img/dscn0710pej18.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=dscn0710pej18.jpg)

The first attempt was promising but I went a step further. Now the lights can be switched on and off separately, so we have...

Day Mode
(https://abload.de/img/dscn0709pzj8d.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=dscn0709pzj8d.jpg)

Night Mode
(https://abload.de/img/dscn0707t8kn8.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=dscn0707t8kn8.jpg)

Driver and cablight (it's not actually that bright, sorry)
(https://abload.de/img/dscn0708xikbe.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=dscn0708xikbe.jpg)

Cheers!
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: sacredprune on March 02, 2020, 05:44:14 PM
Seems like there's no problem you can't solve? Like you wrote the cablight seems a bit too bright, but... and I guess it's a silly question: My eye thinks that the cablight in warm or yellow white does not seem to fit to the coach light in cold white... But it's my fault, is it? :) And now, my redundant "great work" :)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: sacredprune on April 29, 2020, 05:23:12 PM
Desperately waiting for news about life itself in Rose-an-Grouse  :)  Just asking... :)
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 29, 2020, 05:52:54 PM
Very realistic lighting with that hst
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: 1977joey on April 29, 2020, 08:39:11 PM
Hi Christoph,

Just discovered your thread & I'm blown away at your work, superb  :thumbsup:! I love the lighting too, something I wish I had the skills to try out...may have a bash at it someday lol!

keep up this fantastic work,

Cheers,
Mark
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on May 01, 2020, 03:36:11 PM
Desperately waiting for news about life itself in Rose-an-Grouse  :)  Just asking... :)

Hi there,

all is well at Rose-an-Grouse, there's just not that much going on at the moment. But I'll gladly post some recent pictures showing some new items on the layout.

A plant trough
(https://abload.de/img/20200501_143132afjea.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20200501_143132afjea.jpg)

Billboard signs - I just love that "Famous Five"-campaign ;D
(https://abload.de/img/20200501_142928y3kx8.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20200501_142928y3kx8.jpg)

A pair of litter bins
(https://abload.de/img/20200501_142902fvksz.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20200501_142902fvksz.jpg)

Vandalism. You'd have found this particular kind of graffiti all over the Berlin S-Bahn network some years ago
(https://abload.de/img/20200411_1404505gj79.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20200411_1404505gj79.jpg)

There's even an new addition to the fleet: 6412 from the South Devon Railway is here to work on a heritage service for Porthminster (St. Ives). Although this will probably never happen, I still like the thought of being on that train! :heart2:
(https://abload.de/img/20200501_142735cjkez.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20200501_142735cjkez.jpg)

Finally, the Dapol IOA wagons received a ballast load and the last wagon now has a flashing taillight. The only safe way to operate these wagons on the layout seems to be putting them on static display... the sheer sight of a point makes them derail :veryangry:
(https://abload.de/img/20200501_1428171ske7.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20200501_1428171ske7.jpg)

The rake looks nice though, especially together with 20 205 which I also modified. Now the lights can be switched off at the train end. Btw: how do you call the center light on the loco light which is missing here?
(https://abload.de/img/20200501_1430287aks6.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20200501_1430287aks6.jpg)

The ballast train is waiting to let the Castle set pass. It has only three cars but afaik this is not unheard of.
(https://abload.de/img/20200427_073447mgj46.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20200427_073447mgj46.jpg)

And finally, to match the Cornish scenery, I recently gave it a go and made some pasties. Well, not great, not terrible. Guess I'll have to visit again soon and pick up a genuine one :)
(https://abload.de/img/20200426_131755zsk3n.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20200426_131755zsk3n.jpg)

Hope you enjoyed this little update

Cheers
Christoph





Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: port perran on May 01, 2020, 04:38:50 PM
Looking really good Christoph.
Those pasties look ok to me. We had pasties from Rowes for lunch today - yum.
Ask 100 Cornish folk to recommend their favourite pasty shop and youíll likely get 100 different answers 😄

Enjoy your home made ones.

Martin
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 01, 2020, 06:51:12 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:
   Thanks for posting Christopher all looking really superb   :thumbsup:
      stay safe regards Derek.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: Swindon69 on May 01, 2020, 09:26:02 PM
Crikey that's a cracking looking layout.
Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: LowerQuadrant on May 02, 2020, 07:23:24 PM
Thanks! :)

Ask 100 Cornish folk to recommend their favourite pasty shop and youíll likely get 100 different answers 😄

I bet. ;D The best one I had so far was in a tiny shop in Falmouth. Pendennis Castle and the docks are quite impressive.

-

Here's a picture of 57 603 Tintagel Castle with modified lighting including night mode, just waiting to pull the Night Riviera. Are there any news of the Dapol Mk3 sleepers?
(https://abload.de/img/20200323_182048e1j8q.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=20200323_182048e1j8q.jpg)

Title: Re: Rose-an-Grouse - a small junction in Cornwall
Post by: sacredprune on May 03, 2020, 07:22:52 PM
Terribly sorry that I have just a reply and no news on the Dapol Mk3 sleepers ;-)

With every new detail added Rose-an-Grouse looks better - but that's what new details are added for :-D Oh... You turned the graffiti picture to the right direction. It looks great, even in your tidy village ;-) Not sure if there will be a Cornish pasties shop in the station building (or is there one even now?) :-) Maybe some guys from this forum would just... step out of the train to get one :-)
Til then I'll stay with those:
(https://abload.de/img/20200503_2018364gjeh.jpg)

:-)

Cheers, Mark
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