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Title: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on February 12, 2019, 01:52:49 PM
Hi all,

Well, after things have gone well with my wife's job recently, she (we  ;) )have decided that the long, ongoing house move is off for another few, probably more years.

I have permission to drill into the walls and will be buying this.....

https://www.en.dm-toys.de/produktdetails/items/MU_N-B00070.html (https://www.en.dm-toys.de/produktdetails/items/MU_N-B00070.html)

The train room is chaos but the plan is to have a single line all around the edge of the room with Port Regleun (train ferry terminal to Cornwall) in one corner.

It means that I can run long trains and store the other smaller layouts on their side underneath as the, prob 1 ft wide Dawlish Warrenesque scenery boards will be chest height. I actually prefer standing to sitting when working on stuff and watching the trains so it seems like a good plan to me.

The station and port bit will be wider and there's an alcove in another corner for a cider orchard.

Haven't worked out the door bit yet but will probably have it permanent at an angle, so you can open the door, and just crawl underneath.

I've put this in 'layout construction' rather than 'planning' as off to the builder's merchant soon as excited and hope to have pics of the start by next week.

The other small layouts are not forgotten and can still be worked on in the middle of the room on a trestle table when I have time.

I will get there one day. Have new mojo now knowing we're not moving for a while.

Cheers for listening, weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: port perran on February 12, 2019, 01:56:25 PM
That all sounds very good to me and congratulations to Mrs Weave.
It is far easier to get motivated when your life is settled I think.
I look forward to rapid progress over the coming months.
That ferry terminal looks most interesting.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Newportnobby on February 12, 2019, 03:47:42 PM
I feel your excitement. Good luck and let's see lots of pics please.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: cornish yorkie on February 12, 2019, 09:53:24 PM
 :hellosign: Indeed good news Chris, looking forward to developments.
     The ferry terminal does look very interesting  :thumbsup:
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: GreyWolf on February 13, 2019, 06:17:35 AM
That looks like a really interesting piece of kit Sir! Will be looking forward to seeing pics as you progress this ... best of luck to you and Mrs. Weave!

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Bealman on February 13, 2019, 06:32:28 AM
All sounds very interesting and full of potential.  :thumbsup:

Looking forward to developments!

Good to hear about Mrs Weave's job news too. Well done!  :beers:

Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on February 13, 2019, 08:24:10 AM
Hi guys,

Thank you all.

The ferry jetty looks like it is quite complicated so am sure I'll be asking for advice soon. DM Toys are pretty good on delivery speed.

It wasn't the greatest start to the build though yesterday. Thought I'd take the dog's for a walk and then go on to Guildford for some wood and beat the rush hour. All was going well until on the way back, just after the last exit before the Hindhead tunnel the traffic stopped.

Lorry fire just the other side of the tunnel  :doh:. No one was hurt but was in the jeep for 2 1/2 hours. One man and four dogs with crossed legs towards the end  :worried: watching all the cars coming off the junction slip road to our left  >:(  :(.

That pretty much scuppered the evening's plans. Je suis le chef de cuisine in our house so was too knackered to do anything after we'd eaten.

New day so will hopefully make a start later. The traffic jam did give me time to try and work out the best way to attach the boards to the wall crossing a window, a door and two in built shelves though. Am non the wiser really but should all be good fun  :).

Proper updates soon, I hope.

Cheers weave, :beers:



Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: chrispearce on February 13, 2019, 12:54:53 PM
Good luck and HO HO HO about the title of your thread. Very clever! May the force etc.  :D
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: martyn on February 13, 2019, 05:52:14 PM
Best of luck with the new harbour, Chris.

Steve has decided to extend the harbour on James St; guess who has to build the ships and dockside cranes?

First ship is just finished-its taken about 130 hours....four cranes down out of eight, so far..

Hope the train ferry goes well; some 'Continental' train ferries had a single track onto the ship, then gauntleted points to give extra tracks on board; a Flieschmann 3-way may be the nearest?

BRG

martyn
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on February 13, 2019, 07:35:32 PM
Thanks Martyn,

130 hours. Blimmin' 'eck! Saying that, it'll probably take me that long to make the jetty. Maybe the ferry will be out at sea for a long time.

I'll make sure the harbour station has a cafť/bar to keep the waiting passengers fed and watered. Can always blame the weather.

Hope you're well and thanks again for posting.

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: port perran on February 13, 2019, 07:49:41 PM
What?
At 5 hours a day thats 26 days!
You sure itís not 1:1 scale? :-\
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Invicta Alec on February 14, 2019, 11:43:29 AM
Good luck with this one Weave.

Sounds like an interesting project. Looking forward to the first construction photos.


Alec.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: martyn on February 14, 2019, 12:49:49 PM
Hello again Chris and Port Perran;

yes it WAS about 130 hours; basically all my modelling time for about ten weeks. And Port Perran's calculations aren't far out; it was about four hours a day for about 90% of that time. I agree a modern Korean or Chinese yard could probably build a real one in the same time! Most of the time was, as ever, in the detailing of the hatches, winches, masts, rigging, and derricks, and so on.But I was pleased with the result; hopefully, weather permitting, it will be on display on James St at the Leamington Spa show in March, and Ilford at the end of April, and Stuart will get some piccies for posting.

I've now got two North Sea trawler kits to do something with, and a Rhine barge; the trawlers are a bit difficult as the hull form, especially the stern, is designed for the job of being seaworthy, and its may be interesting trying to make the hull more cargo orientated.

Anyone know of a model kit for a 450' long reefer (ship, that is!)? I don't want to build one that big, but it is in Steve's cunning plans for the future, so I'm having a look just in case.

BTW, there is an article in the March 'Railway Modeller' about the ships built in 4mm for the great model rail challenge, or whatever it was; might have to get it to read some ideas.

BRG

martyn



Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on February 14, 2019, 02:09:41 PM
Hi Martyn,

Please feel free to post your ship pics here and make me jealous. I find it frustrating that manufacturers seem to have forgotten our scale and then occasionally you see a 1:150, or thereabouts, scale ship kit from Holland or Poleczechistan or wherever from a company that no one's ever heard of on ebay.

I think the Forum should have an 'N gauge ships and boats' section so we can share our elusive finds.

I'll keep me eyes out for a reefer ship on my search travels.

I did once ring one of those model ship manufacturers who make them bespoke for corporate companies. I just wanted to see what his rough quote for a 1:150 scale model of a Brittany Ferry would be. I expected 2, maybe 3 Grand. No  :no:..... £9,000.00 or maybe more. Blimey.

Try getting that purchase by the good lady when all you got her for Valentine's Day were some manky daffs stolen from Old Bob next door's garden  :D.

Anyway, back to the boards.

Cheers all, weave  :beers:





Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: martyn on February 14, 2019, 05:41:30 PM
Thanks for the post, Chris.

I used to be a Navigating Officer on deep sea shipping, and I have often wondered where all the museum quality ship models went to from all the old shipping companies and shipyards. My own company headquarters in Leadenhall St, London, had loads of them, and most of the other shipping company offices did also. Some have ended up in museums, and I think South Tyneside college has some in its corridors, or at least it did last time I was there.

But there must have been hundreds just destroyed; I think that for all the major companies, at least the 'first of class' had a model made for the directors to gloat over, and the publicity side to publish and show the latest technology to passengers and freight forwarders. I don't know what the scale was, though; somewhere closer to 4mm than N, possibly quite a bit bigger than that, even, and probably an Imperial ratio anyway. Think of the exhibits in places such as the Science museum and National Maritime museum; so much probably lost forever.

Back to my next kit project...Ö.coincidently , I was given a couple of modern maritime interest magazines last week, and they were advertising models such as you've just described, and one even had an article on the factory producing some (in Mauritius!) but strangely, there are no prices quoted!

I'll try and pass on any relevant ship models that I find, as well.

BRG

martyn
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on February 14, 2019, 07:01:16 PM
Hi again Martyn,

Will reply to your PM later but incoming wife and need to at least brush me teeth.

I'd forgotten about Mauritius. I went there about 7 or 8 years ago and they had some lovely ships in the hotel foyer for sale. Locally produced it said but very expensive.

My wife wanted to buy me an HMS Victory and I said it was too much. She Googled the company and they did have prices then at about a quarter of the hotel's.

I never did get the HMS Victory as wasn't too bothered but I seem to remember them having tankers and container ships that to me looked right for N scale.

Saying that it was all inclusive so my judgement might have been impaired  :)

I think the guy who owns it is Dutch and presumably labour costs are favourable there.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: keithbythe sea on February 25, 2019, 08:13:06 AM
Just caught up with your progress Weave.

Good news with Mrs Weaves job and the (non) house move. Looking forward to progress pics, the ferry terminal model looks excellent.  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on April 01, 2019, 10:53:01 PM
Hi all,

Has been a while but have been constructing the round the room layout board. Have only done one side but it's all level and secure and should be easier now to carry on round with the levels right. There's sea and rocks and sand and bridges involved so rather complicated for my little brain.

No pics of the layout construction just yet but have also been doing modular scenic work on the Regleun (Port du Sud) retail frontage. The Port du Sud is where the main terminus station will be. The ferries from there only have sailings to The Channel Islands and the fictional Holy Island of Ile d'Er Lannic. The train ferry to Cornwall (1960's +) and other ferry destinations in the '70s + like Ireland depart from the Port du Nord. There will be transfer trains to the Sud terminus but haven't really thought out a plan for the Nord port so am concentrating on what I've done so far.

I've also been converting a fire ship into a passenger ferry for the thrice daily trip to Er Lannic. With it's lovely beaches and religious significance it's very popular with tourists and pilgrims alike, many from afar ie through trains from Italy and Germany (more of that another time).

Hope to have pics of the layout construction and the small ferry soon.

In the meantime a pic of the station hotel. Will do more pics of the quay frontage in a few minutes but been a while since I posted on flickr so need to get my head around it again so hope this works...


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7805/32575284887_1bc4bf3bcf_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RCyRhT)IMG_1054 (https://flic.kr/p/RCyRhT) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


Bit more commentary, if you hadn't had enough already, soon in the next bit.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: cornish yorkie on April 01, 2019, 11:33:44 PM
 :hellosign: Superb photo of the very nice hotel Chris, looking forward to seeing more  :thumbsup:
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on April 01, 2019, 11:47:42 PM
Hi again,

These pics were taken in the kitchen so don't really explain the layout setting but hope to do that in the next few weeks.

The five buildings were all ready made ebay purchases of mainly German town houses but have tried to french them up a bit. They all needed work anyway and I've had to cut bits out and add bits in. I'm not totally happy but with people, vehicles and a lot more tweaking I think they'll look OK. Also, they will be sort of in the distance which with my eyesight is perfect  ;).

Well, Port Regleun is not supposed to be the prettiest of places being a working port but tries it's best. The station Hotel (see earlier pic) is a bit drab but friendly and comfortable.

'Les Boucaniers' cafť/bar and restaurant does fantastic food, steaks, fresh fish, you name it....

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7891/46602271795_2fb2bc0db1_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e15PNK)IMG_1055 (https://flic.kr/p/2e15PNK) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

Another one of 'Les Boucaniers' and the, again rather drab, apartments mostly housing fishermen and SNCF railway staff (lots of character names to think of  :))....

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7826/47464991692_0bbcf86226_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fjjunJ)IMG_1056 (https://flic.kr/p/2fjjunJ) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

Argant Berthou's renowned fishmongers. Wholesale and retail supplying many homes and restaurants. The main 'shop' is the other side but there is a take away shellfish area on the quayside. To the right is the 'Bar Celtique'. Very spit and sawdust but has live music and a fantastic selection of lagers, beers and ciders from across Europe (and Guinness of course). The frontage is deceptive as all 3 main floors are used.....

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7823/47517736641_51db574099_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2foYPBp)IMG_1057 (https://flic.kr/p/2foYPBp) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

Close up of Monsieur Berthou's Poissonnerie showing the shellfish take away. Not sure if it shows but had a go at  modelling ice. Thinks looks OK.  Haven't attempted the fish yet  :).....

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7826/46602298645_dbc520c187_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e15XMF)IMG_1060 (https://flic.kr/p/2e15XMF) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

Finally, couple of overview pics. First from viewing angle (ish), second from where the house wall of the train room is.....

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7838/33640899328_35ae9f9273_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TfJpkE)IMG_1059 (https://flic.kr/p/TfJpkE) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7913/46793964694_c95763bec6_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ei2iqJ)IMG_1058 (https://flic.kr/p/2ei2iqJ) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

Hopefully all will become clearer in the next few weeks.

Thanks for watching.

Santť weave  :beers:

PS The buildings are stuck to their individual pavement bits but not to the main street so hopefully the floating building syndrome will be less obvious when done.









Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: chrispearce on April 02, 2019, 04:19:43 AM
That is a very attractive row of lovely buildings weave. They will look superb on the layout.

Just wondering. If when you've laid all your track and are unfortunate enough to experience those hidden electrical gremlins that seem to plague all good-hearted modellers, will you retitle this thread as " Port Regleun I - The Phantom Menace"?
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: port perran on April 02, 2019, 08:56:55 AM
That row of buildings looks really good Chris.
Very French to my eyes and yes, the ice looks good.

Can I suggest for the fish you paint fishlike shapes on top of the ďiceĒ using a very fine brush then varnish over  whatever you have used for the ice to give a vet appearance.
Just a thought but you may well have a much better suggestion.
Cheers  :beers:
Martin

Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Train Waiting on April 02, 2019, 09:14:23 AM
What a wonderful post, Chris!

Thank you very much.

It is really good to see something a bit different.

I might well be wrong, but I think there is less British interest in modelling non-US overseas railways now than there was back in the 1970s and 1980s.  'Continental' layouts used to feature regularly in the Model Railway Constructor.  And there appears to be fewer advertisements for models.  I sometimes glance through Continental Modeller and get the impression that it's not what it was.  We are lucky to have it, though.

Thanks again and all best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Newportnobby on April 02, 2019, 10:27:45 AM
A wonderful set of buildings, Chris, and a great addition to the layout.


Another one of 'Les Boucaniers' and the, again rather drab, apartments mostly housing fishermen and SNCF railway staff (lots of character names to think of  :))....

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7826/47464991692_0bbcf86226_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fjjunJ)IMG_1056 (https://flic.kr/p/2fjjunJ) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


Out of curiosity, will the two buildings butt up against each other?
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on April 02, 2019, 12:06:33 PM
Hi all,

Thanks for the kind comments.

chrispearce - It's Kato track but things do go wrong so hopefully just Port Regleun II 'Attack of the Moans'.

Port Perran - The ice is cut from packaging and looks better in real life with light on it. Unfortunately it's a bit squidgy but will have a think. At the moment I'll say they're just setting up, especially as no people there yet. I need to crack on with track and trains and more boards.

NPN - Yes the first three buildings on the left will be butted. I need to cut the small bit of pavement on the left hand side of the apartments as it's not it's original paving. They're not the easiest things to get right so deciding on whether to do them before or in situ.

Anyway. Thanks again. Been rained off workwise so hoping to go and get more wood for the layout later today.

Pics to come.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Phoenix on April 02, 2019, 01:30:58 PM
 :hellosign:

What an excellent row of buildings  :thumbsup:

Years ago I used to work on ships (Fred Olsen Line) and you have bought back happy memories of years of sitting in the dockside bars and cafes of southern France.  :D

Great modelling that has really captured the feel of the real thing.

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 02, 2019, 09:45:25 PM
Bonjour mes amis,

Well, as some of you know, I've been concentrating on my small Sant Pau de Mar layout so I can run trains. Some of them will only ever appear in Brittany so important stuff.

There seems to be quite a lot going on in the 'through runnings' department so thought I'd better pull my finger out and do some work on it or I'll miss the Summer services.

The round the room layout still only goes along nearly two walls (with the dreaded window and door to cross) but have ideas.

A few pics of what I did earlier in the year. I'll have to draw a map and layout design and then photograph them to really explain the reality of the location and the faking of the track going round in a circle. Hope makes sense.

The two wall sides with the port du Sud refurbishment under construction......

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987170992_599316735c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sN67)20190602_180131 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sN67) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

'Tis an estuary on this side and the port du Sud on the other.....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987173493_5f3ba30226_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sNQe)20190602_180207 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sNQe) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987229476_c9d2fdbc10_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7t6ts)20190602_180231 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7t6ts) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

Station platforms will be on the left with some sidings top left where the boxes are....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987231641_e6cc040837_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7t77M)20190602_180305 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7t77M) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

The fledgling start of construction across the window........

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987184737_6cf8b0a287_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sSb6)20190602_180314 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sSb6) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

Have got some train to pics to come in a while.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 02, 2019, 11:30:58 PM
Forgot to mention that the poster on the wall is about my football team before winning the FA Cup in 2008 and not about the British Navy off to blow the whatever out of Port Regleun, although looking at the pics (especially of the floor and surrounding area), maybe they did and it was a pretty good job too  :D

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 03, 2019, 07:27:29 AM
Looking good Chris.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 03, 2019, 09:31:51 AM
Morning all,

Didn't do the train pics yesterday as SWMBO has a new camera phone and after she'd gone to bed I managed to accidentally delete half of them before uploading  :doh:. Don't leave me on my own with technology  :no:.

There will be a few 'named trains' from Port Regleun but one I think needs discussion regarding 'through runnings'. I'm still not quite sure about the exact routing of the CIWL 'L'…toile de L'Ouest' / 'Star of The West' train as in, if it just goes to and comes from the West Country then it should probably just be the alternative route to Paris, avoiding all the hassle of going via London.

If, however, the train goes further North (England/Scotland) then it would make more sense that it travelled down the Atlantic West coast of France so passengers could avoid the hassle of both London and Paris.

Edit - OR, is it The North - just Brittany picking up coaches in Cornwall, London - Brittany same thing with coaches, can't think.

Any thoughts or alternatives welcome. Please, help my little brain.

There is another named train, 'La Cote d'Argent', which runs from Port Regleun to Bordeaux and then on down the 'Silver Coast' to Biarritz but this can be operated in conjunction with the L'Etoile de L'Ouest ie. there'll be a night train ferry and a day passenger only ferry.

The third, no name yet, will go through central France to the Eastern Pyrenees, Izaro and the Spanish border.

Loads to do but a few pics that survived to start things off. There will be more tracks in the station but just seeing what'll fit.....

'La Cote d'Argent' arrives at Regleun Port Sud. Passengers alight here for Channel Island ferries. Haven't decided yet whether trains can call at the Port Nord first or whether some are shunted back there for the daytime passenger ferry to West Porthsea. The small ferry to the Ile d'Er Lannic is in port but not in service as undergoing major refurbishment....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987186073_159894352e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sSz8)20190602_185724 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sSz8) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987188002_1aab1de270_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sT9o)20190602_184723 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sT9o) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987194937_bbcdc31642_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sVcX)20190602_185800 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sVcX) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987198237_9b897b993a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sWbR)20190602_185826 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sWbR) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


After some marshalling at the Port du Nord, a goods train from the earlier train ferry heads off to the main marshalling yard at St. Brieuc to deliver various West Country products and collect some Breton ones for the return journey....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987200292_56c0a3f77f_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sWNh)20190602_190026 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sWNh) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987198538_f44f548fe8_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sWh3)20190602_190048 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sWh3) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

Not great but all the good ones were the ones I deleted, honest.

Hopefully more developments and proper pics soon.

Cheers weave  :beers:









Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Newportnobby on June 03, 2019, 10:19:54 AM
Some fascinating stock there, Chris, especially the steam loco.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Bealman on June 03, 2019, 10:23:46 AM
Indeed.

And yes, I'm still following along, Chris!  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Train Waiting on June 03, 2019, 11:07:08 AM
Some fascinating stock there, Chris, especially the steam loco.

To my eye, the 231 has a bit of a Nord look about it, but my knowledge of French steam is not as good as I should like it to be.  Can you please provide some details, Chris?

This is a fabulous layout.  Your cancelled house move has been a boon, layout-wise, as it would have been horrid to have dismantled all this.

Many thanks and best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 03, 2019, 12:01:16 PM
Hi John,

Thank you. My knowledge of French steam is probably worse than yours. My memories of French/Spanish rail travel are from the '80s/'90s so most of my stock is from that era but have ventured into the '60s steam/diesel transition era for running on different days.

As far as I know there is not a lot of French steam RTR in N scale. They seem to be mostly of German origin, my Roco 150x being an example, captured after the war and only seen in the East and North East of France. Fleischmann also do a couple.

You are right that the pic is of a 231 Nord. A Rivarossi one that Nick (ntpntpntp) kindly repaired for me. None would have appeared in Brittany, I believe, so a lot of poetic licence going on there.

The SNCF Mikado 141 was the main haulage loco all over France but although Arnold do the Spanish version, they don't seem to do the French. I'm not sure, besides gauge in real life, what, if any, the differences are. Livery in some cases and lettering but as I implied I'm new to steam so don't really know what I'm talking about.

The house move will happen eventually which is why three quarters of it will be mainly single track but I should, hopefully, be able to get it off the wall in sections when the time comes. It'll just be cheap causeway like scenery in case it doesn't dismantle well.

The Port du Nord, when eventually started, will just be the ferry and linkspan in one removeable piece but the Port du Sud (pictured) will probably be a case of just saving the track and buildings.

Anyway, enough of the future, must press on with the present. Glad you like it.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 03, 2019, 05:12:14 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
     Thanks for the updates Chris , all looking superb.  :thumbsup:
    I`m thinking the "Star of the West" as a alternative to the "Night ferry" with portions splitting at "West Porthsea" one main line through to Birmingham & beyond the other set through to Penmayne.
    Just a question for you Chris, will there be just one linkspan to your ferries or double as in Dover ?, I do believe the "BR" ferries had two rear doors.
      regards Derek   :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 03, 2019, 05:50:55 PM
Hi Derek,

Thanks for the reply. That route with splitting portions sounds good. For me it's about where in France is it going because if one was travelling from Birmingham to Paris there would be no point avoiding London and Dover by going two long lengths of a triangle via Cornwall.

So, maybe, at Port Regleun one or two coaches split to go West to Brest and Quimper for the tourist areas of that region and the rest go South West to Bordeaux for business and pleasure.

Bristol and Bordeaux have been twinned since 1947...

http://www.bristolbordeaux.org/ (http://www.bristolbordeaux.org/)

Regarding the linkspan, I'm thinking which might take a while  :), but will get back to you.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 03, 2019, 06:43:48 PM
 :hellosign: Bristol to Bordeaux for the main route sounds good to me, I was thinking Paris would be stretching it a bit although what if the direct service to London (via Dover) was introduced due high passenger demand  :hmmm:.
    Just my thoughts, always open to suggestions.
        regards Derek.   :beers: 
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 09, 2019, 11:19:59 PM
Hi all,

Think I might have surpassed myself with rubbish pics here. Not sure yet but camera phone was playing up.

Have been tidying the train room but also seeing what fits where and what looks right. Still not sure.

A while ago I bought a ferry model, which in real life was a US great lakes packet boat steamer from 1920 which then became a ferry between China and Taiwan in the '50s. I mucked it up a bit making it and then in a hurried house viewing tidy up managed to break a lot of the infrastructure  :doh:.

It might look slightly out of place when I've built it (maybe) but have bought another one to be the Port Regleun (port du Sud) - Jersey/Guernsey ferry. Will be more careful with this one so may take a while to build.

The former hull is in these pics to see if it fits aesthetically. Please ignore the wooden platforms ie. bits of wood, they are just for seeing what could be. There are train pics but the main reason is to ask/see if the station building would look better at right angles to the quayside as opposed to earlier pics with it alongside......

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032621823_e36a0aca54_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtK38)20190609_214018 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtK38) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032684257_741df763e2_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbu4Az)20190609_214038 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbu4Az) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

The double crossover is a bit too much, I think, so will get a single one which is more prototypical for French terminus stations.

Sorry, computer doing weird things so I'll post and continue later or tomorrow.

Cheers weave  :beers:




Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 10, 2019, 12:40:33 AM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
     Just a thought Chris, will train passengers have direct access to the ferry with the main terminal as is. No doubt all will be revealed shortly
     regards Derek. 
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 10, 2019, 07:47:26 AM
 :hmmm: not sure on terminal positioning. Can we have a picture of each option?
ďI used to be indecisive. Now Iím not so sure.Ē
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: port perran on June 10, 2019, 07:49:17 AM
Good morning Chris.
My vote is to have the station building at right angles.
And yes, a single crossover would look better I think.

Martin
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 10, 2019, 09:05:14 AM
:hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
     Just a thought Chris, will train passengers have direct access to the ferry with the main terminal as is. No doubt all will be revealed shortly
     regards Derek. 

Hi Derek,

Yes. The tram track on the right will be for post and the odd goods wagon and not go as far up as it is in the pic so passengers will have enough room to walk from the train and round to the ship or from the building going left.

Saying that I hadn't thought about Customs so maybe passengers go from the train into the building by the left entrance, looking at it, and come out on the right of the building with the right hand platform fenced down the middle?

The tram track will probably also be single track (ie. fill one in) as it would be complicated to connect to the normal Kato track, the width being different dimensions.

Hope makes sense.

More replies and pics to come this morning as rained off work  :doh:  :(  :no:  :claphappy:

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Newportnobby on June 10, 2019, 09:53:37 AM

My vote is to have the station building at right angles.


I agree. As per your post #29, with the building at right angles passengers could pass through the customs house from the boat to the train/vice versa.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 10, 2019, 10:14:09 AM
:hmmm: not sure on terminal positioning. Can we have a picture of each option?
ďI used to be indecisive. Now Iím not so sure.Ē

Hi Keith,

Earlier pics showing the side on approach, although just plonked.....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987170992_599316735c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sN67)20190602_180131 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sN67) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987173493_5f3ba30226_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sNQe)20190602_180207 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sNQe) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987229476_c9d2fdbc10_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7t6ts)20190602_180231 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7t6ts) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

Although it means you get a better view of the buildings, it'll hide the ferry (might be a good thing  :D :D) but also thought the station would look better as in the new pics with a frontage for buses and taxis, car park etc. rather than the tracks just stopping to nothing.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032621823_e36a0aca54_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtK38)20190609_214018 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtK38) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032624243_52103f5e69_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtKKR)20190609_213931 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtKKR) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

Cheers weave  :beers:




Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 10, 2019, 10:29:17 AM
Looking at those pics, it does look better side on.

Any ideas for the transition from station to town. I suppose just a wall. Platform one side, car park on t'other. Can't think.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Bealman on June 10, 2019, 10:33:27 AM
Sorry, I prefer at the end. Looks more like a proper terminus. Also, you want to be able to see the boat.

Scissors definitely too much.  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 10, 2019, 10:34:52 AM
Hi Martin and NPN,

I know what NPN means but, Martin, do you mean right angles to the town buildings or to the ship?

Sorry, my brain is shot on a Monday morning.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: martyn on June 10, 2019, 10:51:37 AM
Hi Chris;

Its the other Martyn;

I think the building will be more prototypical if parallel to the wharf, but it looks better at 90 degrees to the tracks......Google photos of Harwich Parkeston quay (West) (if there are any-I'll have a look) which was used for the day service to Hook of Holland; part of the 'shed' was used for passenger Customs/Immigration clearance, and another part for freight clearance and sorting.

The Crossing ship hull looks good for a start for the big ferry; main change needs to be overall height and the navigating bridge.

Best wishes on a long and interesting project!

Martyn

Later-I can only find one photo of Parkeston (West) on Google......I'm fairly sure Dover (Marine) was also parallel to the quay, and I know Hook of Holland was. It saved passengers walking the length of the quay, through the terminus, and then back along the platform to the train; one just went in the 'shed' about half way along the quay, cleared Customs and Immigration, and then came out half way along the platform for the train. This also saved a small amount of time between arrival and departure of the ship or train, depending on which way the sailing was (in or out bound).

Martyn

Even later-Weymouth and  Folkestone also seem to be parallel to the quay....
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: port perran on June 10, 2019, 12:07:24 PM
Hi Chris

Sorry for the confusion.

My preference is as in the 4th photo ie parallel to the town buildings.
Martin
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: GreyWolf on June 10, 2019, 12:42:19 PM
Hi there!  :wave:

For what it's worth, I like this arrangement best ...


... also thought the station would look better as in the new pics with a frontage for buses and taxis, car park, etc. rather than the tracks just stopping to nothing.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032621823_e36a0aca54_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtK38)20190609_214018 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtK38) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032624243_52103f5e69_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtKKR)20190609_213931 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtKKR) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

Cheers weave  :beers:

Feeling more prototypical to me and gives both the line and road from the station (pic 213931) somewhere to go.
As ever I'm lurking on the forum, and watching with interest.

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: martyn on June 10, 2019, 03:05:35 PM
Further thoughts;

It seems to me that there are two types of passengers needing to be dealt with.

The 'locals' who need to have end platform access to the town streets, and the ferry passengers who need to get to the trains from the ship (and vice versa) as easily as possible.

For the locals, the main terminus building at the end is most logical; and this would sit most easily for the offices and other needs of the railway and its staff.  May I suggest a second building parallel to the quay for the transit passengers? It needn't be more than one storey high, nor particularly long, and therefore one should be able to see the cross channel ferry over the roof of the transit 'shed'.

Martyn

Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 10, 2019, 03:33:02 PM
Hi all,

Thank you for all the replies. I keep changing my mind but looking at it again I do like the terminus look and it allows more tracks as well.

Thanks Martyn for mentioning the ferry height. I was going to build it as is but remember it would look wrong in height even for Rule One (maybe?). I might practice on the damaged one before attempting to lose a deck which is what I think you're suggesting. You could always have a big fall out with everyone at James St. and come and do some work for me  ;)  :D. Just bought some Maryland Cookies but I can get whatever you want :).

Can't seem to post pics of the model so this is a R/C version of my 1/150 scale model so you know what I'm talking about......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ap8Sxdr_5k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ap8Sxdr_5k)

Back to the station, I think a few more house buildings to the left would keep it in symmetry and look better with another corner one opposite the corner one that's there for road access. I can't afford loads of buildings so the branch line to the left will mainly have a wall behind with shrubs behind that and rocked sea wall in front.

I'll stop rambling now. Few more pics from yesterday soon.

Cheers again weave  :beers:

 
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 10, 2019, 03:35:47 PM
Hi again Martyn,

Sorry, posted before I read your last message. Good idea, will have a think.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 10, 2019, 04:13:23 PM
Argh, my brain hurts...  :uneasy:

For what itís worth Iím with GreyWolf regarding building orientation.

Nice ferry.  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: port perran on June 10, 2019, 04:30:07 PM
Argh, my brain hurts...  :uneasy:

For what itís worth Iím with GreyWolf regarding building orientation.

Nice ferry.  :beers:
Just to be clear, thatís my choice too.
How about a small embarkation waiting room alongside the ship acting as a shelter for passengers?
Then a little covered walkway running along the harbour dge down to the station?

Ok, Iím over complicating things. Itís not me who has to build it  :D  I shall get my coat and hat.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: martyn on June 10, 2019, 04:42:33 PM
Chris;

This is a link to Parkeston west;

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264250643771 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264250643771)

Because of its width, it is equivalent to two stories high.

I would think that it would be a relatively (!) easy to scratchbuild a single storey, narrower version, similar to the smaller huts in the foreground.

Note that the crossover leads to tracks on the quay face for transit cargo, which may be applicable to your trackplan, and the twin track leads to the carriage sidings (and Parkeston Quay main station and loco shed).

HTH (or not?)

Any biscuits would do...Ö...

Martyn

Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 10, 2019, 08:24:15 PM
Hi all,

Thanks again for further replies. I think the terminus building at the track end with some sort of smaller quayside building is the way to go.

I don't think scratchbuilding it is for me but will keep an eye out for something suitable to buy.

Few more pics from Sunday....

Not sure if the CIWL British loading gauge coaches for the train ferry are still in Oostende under repair, @Chris in Prague (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895), but here are some pics of test trials. Oostende looks a bit like Port Regleun to the untrained eye  ;)....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032597411_91e9faec01_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtBMe)20190609_212626 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtBMe) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032585221_5f8dde9233_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtya4)20190609_213747 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtya4) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032636048_9d5e93d382_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtPgo)20190609_212658 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtPgo) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032633653_ae91e54e4f_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtNy6)20190609_213630 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtNy6) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


In the meantime, the 'Le Cote d'Argent' is still running a night CIWL Wagon Lits service from Bordeaux for daytime foot passengers only to West Porthsea Quay. Six coaches have already been taken to the port du Nord for the ferry to Cornwall. At the port du Sud the CIWL restaurant car is taken off to be restocked and the two sleeping cars for passengers awaiting the late departure of the Channel Island ferry are allowed to remain so the 231 loco has to run around to refuel and water before the arrival of a special pilgrim train from Rome with passengers for the Ile d'Er Lannic (holy island) ferry......


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032612253_38e1560d47_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtGc8)20190609_214824 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtGc8) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032565486_4b2005aae3_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtshN)20190609_214904 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtshN) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032563206_156b0e7e57_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtrBu)20190609_214919 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtrBu) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032559986_7768eadcd7_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtqDY)20190609_214926 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtqDY) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032600263_3d2c8720af_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtCCp)20190609_215006 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtCCp) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


150x in charge of the pilgrim train....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032597583_92dccbc6ec_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtBQc)20190609_215835 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtBQc) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032660147_e737444f52_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtWqT)20190609_215844 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtWqT) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032590958_fae261b401_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtzRY)20190609_215853 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtzRY) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032580048_b93ddd2671_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtwBS)20190609_220002 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtwBS) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


Flickr has just gone mad on me for some reason so will leave it there. Not great pics anyway.

Thanks for watching and hopefully some progress on the layout in the next few weeks.

Also must do some '80s/'90s pics soon too.

Cheers weave  :beers:







Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: joe cassidy on June 10, 2019, 08:30:10 PM
Chris, if you could stick temporary backscenes on each of the corner walls it would help me to get a better feel about what you're aiming for.

With the just the bare walls it's difficult for me to imagine what lies beyond the edges of the layout.

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 10, 2019, 09:04:08 PM
Hi Joe,

Well, there lies another problem in that it's not that I hadn't thought things through, it's just that I wanted to get trains up and running and so basically I haven't thought things through  :D.

The layout is chest high so I'm thinking a wall on the layout in front of the house wall between the two alcoves with a track behind it giving the impression of the sea and quay behind.

I dunno. Something will hopefully come to me.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 10, 2019, 09:26:33 PM
Hi again,

The other plan was to have a tall wall around the protruding house wall with land there meaning the ferry would be in an enclosed port basin (it's in some sort of port basin anyway as the tide will be lower at the front). This was the original plan when the ferry was just going to be a smaller one.

It might work, it'll just be a tight turn for the ferry with lots of poetic licence as it's too long to moor at 90 degrees. Possibly at an angle but still very tight.

Another sleepless night  :doh:

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Newportnobby on June 10, 2019, 09:52:06 PM
Steam and a green diesel. What more could anyone want? :)
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 10, 2019, 10:02:05 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:  Thanks Chris, all looking really excellent. A good idea for the main terminal at the end & a small transfer building alongside the ferry  :beers:
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 13, 2019, 08:41:20 AM
Hi all,

Have had rethink as it didn't really make sense the way round everything was. So, the new plan, at the moment, is to keep the little harbour as a tide out fishing harbour with a station, so sort of as was, but without such a big station building (not that way round either) and no ferries.....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987173493_5f3ba30226_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sNQe)20190602_180207 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sNQe) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

Originally the layout was going to be around the room but thought that trains could go out and come back with the benefit of a reverse loop (will have to sort the electrickery  :worried:) from the RHS of the window across an estuary bridge in front of the window to here....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987184737_6cf8b0a287_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sSb6)20190602_180314 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7sSb6) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


Along the seafront, maybe a beach, to the small fishing harbour station with then the branch line here......

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48032582441_4ad3ea5fab_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtxk8)20190609_213920 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbtxk8) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr .....

protruding out into the sea (causeway and bridges) along this bit, across the room door and round to the ferry terminal like the old Liner terminal at Le Verdon (pics 17 - 20 and 22) (not as big though  :))....

https://medoc-notizen.eu/pointe-de-grave (https://medoc-notizen.eu/pointe-de-grave)

I can then make the ferry terminal in one removable, self contained piece as we will move at some point. It gets rid of tide problems and I think the mainland bit will look better and make more sense. All ferries will depart from there including the train ferry so planning to be done. It can be in a basin for stability.

Hope makes sense, might draw a map. It shouldn't have but it has been doing my head in for weeks. Am a lot happier with the idea now but please feel free to add any thoughts and criticisms (I wont be offended, there's always a bottle of Calvados on standby  :D).

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS. This is more reference for me but some French maritime pics...

http://www.frenchlines.com/collections/photographies3/ (http://www.frenchlines.com/collections/photographies3/)




Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 13, 2019, 11:30:50 AM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign: Interesting changes Chris, & a clever piece of future proofing for the ferry terminal. Look forward to further updates
       regards Derek   :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: port perran on June 13, 2019, 11:33:37 AM
Sounds a good plan Chris.
Itís best to be really happy with your plan before you get too far into construction.
I presume this solves any problem with access to the room?

Martin
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 14, 2019, 07:20:37 AM
:hellosign:   :greatpicturessign: Interesting changes Chris, & a clever piece of future proofing for the ferry terminal. Look forward to further updates
       regards Derek   :beers:

Yes, if a house move occurs in the future then modular is the way to go. Thinking very long term... if everything is modular could you make it so that the modules go together in different orders? Multiple layouts from one set of modules! Sorry, thatíll probably require a lot of thought (and Calvados).   :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 14, 2019, 04:03:38 PM
Hi Chris (Weave), belated thanks for these excellent photos. with accompanying text updates. The two UK Loading Gauge CIWL "Pullmans" shown: Blue and White CIWL Pullman 4161 and Blue CIWL Dining Car 3360 have indeed been released from the Oostende CIWL workshops and are due to be followed by a UK Loading Gauge TOUROPA Couchette Car, too. One of the airbraked only (through vacuum brake pipes) BR Grey "Ferry" "Tube" wagons recently transferred to Cornwall and Devon has also been sent for trials but by the train ferry.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 16, 2019, 09:14:26 PM
Hi all,

Have been playing around with the new concept fishing harbour to see what looks right.

The station building is the same as the one at Sant Pau de Mar (Izaro layout for those who don't know) as I have two of them and this one is based on the terminus station at Roscoff in Brittany....

https://www.roscoff-quotidien.eu/RoskoSNCF.htm (https://www.roscoff-quotidien.eu/RoskoSNCF.htm)


In the following pics nothing is really right as in I need more platforms and they need lowering and other things raising etc. Also, the station looks too small with the buildings in some pics but I think with canopies as in the pic above it'll look OK.

Have added the buildings from the no longer existing Trťmargat St. Croix layout although they are missing tables and chairs that were nicked from the lot opposite  :).

The loco runaround is more prototypical although not like Roscoff with the three tracks. Middle two tracks are for terminating passenger trains, the line by the sea for train ferry and boat trains (train ferry coaches normally shunted from the rear of trains which have terminated in the centre tracks) and the quayside line for mainly freshly caught fish.

I might extend the wall at the back of the harbour and move the larger buildings and quayside along in front of the station thus creating a scenic break to the house wall ie. fishing boat harbour entrance behind a building.

Had hoped to do some train pics too but Flickr and my computer have been playing up. Anyway, I'm confusing myself now so here are the pics......

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48074578463_2ebbdc311d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfbMht)20190616_180936 (1) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfbMht) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48074602633_ee6ad42ae0_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfbUtc)20190616_181013 (1) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfbUtc) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48074566391_898a110419_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfbHGk)20190616_181027 (1) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfbHGk) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


More in a minute. Neighbour's just come round and again I know I'll lose what I've done.

Cheers weave  :beers:





Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 16, 2019, 09:35:25 PM
Hi again,

Neighbour still here, long story, but just to say the platform underpasses won't be there (platform from a previous layout) and walls for round the protruding house wall are on order.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 16, 2019, 09:58:46 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
    Thanks for sharing your thoughts with a very nice update Chris, really starting to look very very good   :thumbsup:
     regards Derek.   :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 17, 2019, 06:05:46 AM
Thanks Derek.

Hi all,

Long delay but few more pics....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48074679852_27083b38f3_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfciqy)20190616_181036 (1) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfciqy) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


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I wasn't going to use Kato platforms originally but had some so for financial reasons it made sense. Next job is to cut the cork away from where they are going to lower them and cut some wood for where the station building is for  it and the car park thus releasing another two sections of platform which it's on at the moment.

It all does look better in real life, honest  :).

All a bit boring but will do train pics this week which hopefully will be more interesting.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: port perran on June 17, 2019, 08:20:36 AM
Thanks Chris, looks good.
Could we see an overview of the full layout at some time.
Maybe youíve done that and if so apologies - Iíve only just got up!

Martin
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 17, 2019, 08:47:59 AM
Hi Martin,

I've only done two sides of it so far so station throat, where the boxes are, with future bridge in front of window top right...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47987231641_e6cc040837_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7t77M)20190602_180305 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7t77M) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

Panning left to the fishing harbour and station.....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48074602633_ee6ad42ae0_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfbUtc)20190616_181013 (1) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfbUtc) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


Then branch line to future ferry terminal on other side of room....

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That's all I've done so far I'm afraid.

Hope you can visualise it and future plans. Must draw a diagram and a map.

Cheers weave  :beers:




Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: port perran on June 17, 2019, 08:49:30 AM
Thanks Chris
That makes sense now.

Martin
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 17, 2019, 07:09:39 PM
Thanks for the latest photos., Chris (Weave). I really like the overall look of this new layout. I think it could be very atmospheric. I think the "Chelsea Girls" will be paying a visit before long. 8-)
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 18, 2019, 01:10:29 AM
Thanks Chris (IP).

My recollection of all the stories is pretty ropey but I think this is a correct continuation but please correct me if it's wrong. If it is wrong there's a few train pics in the next instalment on Tuesday evening.

So, after visiting Sonmel, Sylvia and Eli had travelled to Munich to check out the new Touropa service to the UK via the Port Regleun - West Porthsea Quay train ferry service.

They had met up with their friend Sofia and her friend Catala, who had decided on a whim to come up to see them from Izaro on a Touropa train too, and suggested that they join them on their trip back to the UK. The more info about Touropa travel the better.

The new regular route of the service has yet to be decided but in the meantime two ordinary Touropa couchettes, the new Touropa, British loading gauge for the train ferry and through running to Penmayne Cornwall, couchette along with one Scharnow Reisen couchette all bound for Port Regleun were attached to the rear of a 10 coach Touropa train carrying holidaymakers back to Hamburg from Bavaria.

The Brittany bound coaches were to be taken off at Cologne and all the girls, especially the two Spanish girls, were very much looking forward to the views along the river Rhine. The Spanish girls had warned Sylvia and Eli that there were no or little refreshments on board so they had all stocked up with a rather voluptuous picnic basket, especially compared to some of their fellow travellers.

The girls had a great time laughing and joking while enjoying a few white wines and taking in the beautiful views of the Rhine from their 4 berth couchette compartment. Only the top two bunks had been put up so the seating arrangement was very comfortable. They felt sorry for those in a 6 berth compartment with strangers who might or might not want to sleep during the daytime journey.

At about 6pm the train pulled into Koeln (Cologne) Hauptbahnhof where after a bit of shunting had occurred, Catala, who had climbed up onto one of the beds for a little post vino siesta, opened her eyes to see a rather dashing young man in a smart suit alighting from a train on the opposite side of the platform. As he walked further up the platform she opened the window to look again and as well as noticing him get into a first class SNCF coach, which was now attached to the girl's train, due to the curvature of the platform she also noticed a CIWL restaurant car further up, a 'proper' sleeper and another strange looking coach that she couldn't make out.

'Don't get me wrong' she said to the other three girls, 'I'm really enjoying this Touropa thing but does anyone fancy a lovely CIWL dinner on our way to Paris and beyond?'. The girls all nodded and started to get ready.

To be continued......











Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Innovationgame on June 18, 2019, 06:34:47 AM
Hmmm....

Will the young man escape unscathed?
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: port perran on June 18, 2019, 07:35:06 AM
Hmmm....

Will the young man escape unscathed?

Will he want to ?   :D

Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 18, 2019, 08:16:10 AM
Good morning, Chris (weave)

Thank you for your new story episode. Yes, that all sounds fine. I'm a bit busy this week and next but plan, soon, to post an overall story update prior to the beginning of the Summer 1963 timetable (Monday, 17th June to Sunday, 8th September 1963) summarising where all the main characters are and what they have been previously been doing.

So, I suggest, the events you're describing would be in late May?
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 18, 2019, 09:33:44 AM
Hi Chris (IP),

Glad it's OK. I'll wrap the story up today when the girls and the mystery man (or prey as Laurence has implied  :)) get to Cornwall. It might be in instalments depending on the weather as have chores to do (joint fence problem).

I'll leave it there after that so as not to complicate matters and let you hold the reins again. It is getting a bit confusing where and when everyone is at the moment but I wanted to introduce a new character and show the through running Touropa coach.

While major engineering works need to be done at Port Regleun with bridge and causeway construction, any future stories will mainly be set in Sant Pau de Mar (Izaro thread) concerning the 'Crazy Bunch' girls and the lads, Catala and maybe Fermin and Rae Anne will make an appearance (need to run some trains too).

The Chelsea Girls are obviously very welcome at Port Regleun but I'll let you decide when etc. so I don't 'Big Chicken' up yours and other's narratives.

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:

Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 18, 2019, 12:56:29 PM
Story continued.....

After Catala's very appealing suggestion and before the train left Cologne, Sylvia and Eli, realising that the doors might be locked between the seemingly all first class SNCF and CIWL coaches and the Touropa tourist train, quickly nipped along the platform to have a chat with CIWL staff in the restaurant car.

Explaining their CIWL connections and the purpose of their Touropa journey, arrangements were made to let the four girls through the train for a dinner reservation at about half seven.

The two girls then had to run back along the platform to their coach as whistles were blown and they sighed with relief as the coach door was shut and the train slowly pulled forward heading for Belgium. The four girls then spent about an hour getting ready, which in the rather cramped compartment was quite a feat.

The arrangement was that at the Belgian border the 'between coach' doors would be opened for the Custom Officers passing along the train and after checking their passports and compartment they would be allowed through to the restaurant car.

As the train pulled out of Aachen the girls, now ready, with borrowed CIWL menus in hand perused the delicious looking selection of dishes on offer.

All went well at the border and the girls, after passing through the first class SNCF coach entered the CIWL restaurant car. 'Good evening ladies' said the head waiter, 'Where would you like to sit? There are only a few German business people on the train this evening so you can sit anywhere you like'.

Catala, noticing the good looking man that she had seen earlier, sitting on his own, suggested the adjacent table.

The girls sat down with knowing glances between the other three.....

to be continued....

(boring myself now so will try and keep it short  :D)
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 18, 2019, 02:49:35 PM
Story continued...

After waiting for the girls to order their aperitifs , the German businessman politely said 'Good Evening ladies' and introduced himself as Christian Weber. The girls introduced themselves back, Catala with a slight blush as she shook his hand.

Christian was very interested in the two Spanish, one Breton and one English girl's trip and what they all did for a living. During the conversation, Catala asked 'So what do you do Christian'?

'I head up a Marketing Consortium of beer brewers from the Ruhr area of Germany and am on my way to a place called Sonmel where they are having a beer festival' he replied. 'I'm not quite sure exactly how to get there or even where it is but some of my colleagues, who are asleep in the Wagon Lits now, will know'.

'Wow', piped up Eli, 'we've just come from there. Sylvia and I will tell you all about it'. Noticing Catala with a slightly disappointed face she added that 'Sant Pau de Mar in the Principality of Izaro are also planning to have a European Beer Festival later in the year. Catala, being the co owner of the best restaurant in that area and part of the planning committee is the person to talk to about that'.

'I shall definitely do so', he replied. Catala's face lit up as subtly as she could manage.

After a delicious meal and various business, travel and general chats the five hadn't noticed that Brussels had been and gone and that they were on their way to Paris.

'We're not very tired but I suppose we had better be heading back' said one of the girls.

'Do you like James Bond?' said Christian. The girls looked a bit confused but Christian explained that his part of the train, running especially for German business people with connections to Brittany, not only has first class accomodation but that the SNCF has a new promotional cinema coach and that they were showing 'Dr. No' at 10.30 pm.

'Dr. who?' said Sylvia with a wry smile and a wink. Christian didn't get the joke but they all agreed and watched the very enjoyable film in what was slightly surreal surroundings.

Christian, being the Gentleman escorted the girls back to their Touropa compartment, the night porter opening the connecting doors, and they all agreed to meet up on the ferry to Cornwall, if not before.

As they all slept, the train made it's way around the Petite Ceinture in Paris and on to Brittany.....

To be continued (with pics, thank god they say, sorry  :worried:)

'
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 18, 2019, 03:15:41 PM
Excellent, Chris (Weave). I'm loving it.

Discovering exactly how to travel to Sonmel is not easy but as Christian has an official invitation, detailed travel instructions plus a business visa (almost as difficult to obtain as a visa to the Island of Rockall) would have been supplied to the Germans by the Honorary Consul for Sonmel. (Honorary consuls are not professional diplomats, i.e., they do not make a living as diplomats. They usually do live and work as well as pay taxes in the country where they operate while they do represent a country ( on a voluntary/not-salaried/ basis until their appointments are revoked). Honorary consuls are not required to be natives of the country they represent and they have limited authorization to act and conduct on behalf of the country that appointed them and they usually do not have diplomatic passports, do not enjoy diplomatic immunity and do not have preferential tax treatment. They have ďthe honour to serve the respective countryĒ and they are usually selected/appointed by their merits.)

We had better let Keith decide who and where in England Sonmels' Honorary Consul is. 8-)

Only Eli would have understood Sylvia's wink at the mention of "Dr. who?" The other two girls having not met or heard about him.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 18, 2019, 03:57:15 PM
Thanks Chris (IP). Glad you like.

I'll leave the mystery of Sonmel alone and, as you said, leave it up to Keith.

Regarding Dr. Who, I thought Sofia (de La Vega) was in the know (no pun intended) about him. Wasn't she involved in the Dalek story from before?

No matter, memory of a sieve.

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:

 

Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 18, 2019, 07:26:07 PM
Thanks Chris (IP). Glad you like.

I'll leave the mystery of Sonmel alone and, as you said, leave it up to Keith.

Regarding Dr. Who, I thought Sofia (de La Vega) was in the know (no pun intended) about him. Wasn't she involved in the Dalek story from before?

No matter, memory of a sieve.

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:

My apologies, Chris (Weave), you're quite correct, Sofia de La Vega was indeed closely involved with that. However, she would not have told anyone else about those momentous events so Catala would not get the allusion.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 18, 2019, 10:36:24 PM
 :hellosign: Good to see more  :greatpicturessign:  of your layout Chris & the story is really entertaining too  :thankyousign:
    regards Derek.   :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 18, 2019, 10:50:09 PM
Hi all,

Final instalments and then I must put the trains away safely and do some woodwork around the rest of the room.

There are a couple of mistakes in the story in that the train ferry normally travels overnight but if you hadn't fallen asleep earlier, you'll know that the Touropa train is arriving in the Morning. Let's just say that the ferry had had a technical problem and with a day's notice both the Touropa train and the 'Star of the West' had made alternative arrangements for it's daytime sailing.

The second one is that the Touropa/SNCF, CIWL train arrives pulled by a BB 67400 diesel that didn't enter service until 1969 and not the A1A A1A 68000 which entered service in 1963 which I had intended to use. Opened the wrong box  :doh:.

They're pretty similar and whose rivet counting among friends anyway. There are other small discrepancies but we'll wash over them  :).

Story continued....

The girls had been awoken before Lamballe by the guard knocking on every door as some of the passengers were to alight there and continue their journeys into Western Brittany by local trains. The girls were pleased as it gave them time to freshen up before their arrival at Port Regleun and then the long boat trip to England.

As the train from Cologne slowly pulled into the station there was another announcement that there might be some further delay in the ferry's departure due to a the 'Star of the West' being late. It's coaches had been attached to an express from Nantes due to the travel alterations and there had been some problems on the line earlier.....

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Catala was very pleased as it gave here more time to make herself look even more beautiful for when she would meet up with Christian again.

The girls were then informed that the station building had a small cafť that was open so they all decided that coffee and pain au chocolat was a great idea. As they passed the various coaches of Christian's part of the train Catala was rather disappointed that they hadn't bumped into him.

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As the girls walked past the cinema coach they all agreed what a fantastic idea it was/is ....


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While the girls had their coffee and croissant and the Touropa passengers not on the 'through' coach were waiting for their buses to the ferry terminal (not the norm but the station was slightly chaotic this morning) a sharp shrill whistle announced the arrival of the Nantes Express with a CIWL wagon-lits and two 'through' Pullman coaches of 'L'…toile de L'Ouest' (Star of The West) attached to the rear.

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The girls were then informed that there was no need to rush their breakfast as various shunting procedures had to be carried out. Although there were delays, the girls were quite content as they were in no real rush and had been informed of the problems promptly and courteously.

More coming up soon.

Cheers weave  :beers:









Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 18, 2019, 11:00:26 PM
Hi all,

On second thoughts will finish tomorrow.

Thanks for reading.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 19, 2019, 07:34:06 AM
Excellent, Chris (Weave). Sylvia's mother, Lady Penelope, has always had a low opinion of the efficiency of the SNCF (mainly formed post-war) and, thus, from an early age, Sylvia had not been surprised by any delays and alterations in ferry train connections. Eli, used to the rural charm of the slow Breton secondary narrow gauge lines, found the standard gauge French train service rather better. Sofia de La Vega and, especially, Catala, were enjoying their holiday too much to pay much attention to what was happening with the trains. Fortunately, for them, Sylvia and Eli were very efficient organisers and very willing to question porters, guards, shunters, train drivers, stationmasters and even signalmen, firmly but politely in fluent French and with considerable charm to discover just what was going on. They also had the knack of always being able to find excellent local refreshments.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 19, 2019, 07:53:40 AM
Good stuff Weave. Blimey, looks like Iíve got some serious thinking to do (thought that Iíd given that up when I fully retired) to get this German business man onto Sonmel..... Maybe with some of the girls, but I must remember that this is a family forum.  :doh:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 19, 2019, 10:28:52 AM
Story continued....

After finishing their breakfast, the girls decided to have a little wander and have a look at the SNCF 231 Chapelon steam loco (a seemingly permanent fixture in the area now due to the lack of enough 141s seen all over France) together with some colourful goods wagons on the next platform.

'There's Christian' Sofia said quietly as she nudged Catala with her elbow. The girls slowly walked towards a small group of suited men standing by the goods wagons chatting to two men in dirty blue overalls, one holding a flag.

'Ladies, good morning' he said loudly. 'Please join us'. 'These are my colleagues'. Introductions were made and then Christian asked Eli and Sylvia if they would kindly help them out of a bit of a jam. He explained that although the Dortmunder Union beer wagons and several others had already made it safely to Sonmel  that they wanted to check the last four Wickueler wagons (from their Wuppertal Brewery just South of Dortmund) were properly secure as they believed the crossing might be rather choppy. That is why they had been brought to the station.

'Our French is not so good and this man either doesn't understand or is being rather difficult' he continued. 'My pleasure', said Eli and walked over to the two SNCF workers, who hearing her Breton accent seem to warm instantly. After lots of Gallic raising and lowering of voices along with some shrugging, Eli returned.

'All sorted' she said. 'A bit of female charm works wonders. Didier and Jean-Paul here are having a bit of a logistical problem and weren't told the purpose of bringing the wagons to the station but they are opening the wagon doors now so you can check'. Christian's colleagues checked the four wagons and the kegs and crates all seemed to be in order.

Didier climbed into the cab of the BB 63000 station pilot and with a toot slowly headed back up to the sidings to prepare the train ferry wagons and coaches.

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As the rear of the train passed the small gathering of people, Jean-Paul, sitting on the back of the last wagon, waved his flag at them and shouted 'Eh, Eli!' and then something in Breton dialect.

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Christian, concerned that maybe he had insulted the girl for stepping in to help them, asked what the SNCF worker had said.

Eli smiled and replied 'He wanted my telephone number as he wants to take me out for dinner.' They all laughed.

As the group walked back towards the station building, Christian explained to the girls that he was the only one going to Sonmel and that his colleagues were travelling to various parts of Brittany to promote their wares. 'I'll be travelling in one of the 'Star of the West' Pullman coaches and I believe we had reserved several seats just in case so you are all very welcome to join me. Your coach is coming too so I'm sure all your belongings will be safe'.

'Thank you', they all replied. 'I'll have a word with the porter', said Sylvia, 'just to make sure the compartment door is locked'. Christian said farewell to his colleagues and the five headed back up the platform to the CIWL Pullman coach knowing that Didier and his mate would be doing their work soon.

Didier and Jean-Paul firstly had to remove the Touropa coaches that were staying in France....


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Then the 'through' Touropa coach.....


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This was then attached to the rear of the 'Star of the West' through coaches.....

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And then back to the sidings to collect the goods wagons before setting off to the ferry terminal where more shunting would have to be done with regard to weight loads on the twin tracked train ferry...


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Finally, the train leaves Port Regleun along the causeway for the Gare Maritime Internationale, the five enjoying another coffee, Didier still cursing the train set ups, Jean Paul, now a bit warmer in the cab and thinking of Eli, Catala thinking how nice it'll be to get to know Christian better on the crossing and Christian thinking how the hell am I going to get to Sonmel......

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Sorry so long winded but glad some of you enjoyed it and hope you enjoyed the last bit. Yes, it's over  :claphappy:

Thank you all for reading.

Cheers weave  :beers:




Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: port perran on June 19, 2019, 03:21:19 PM
Thanks for the story Chris and the pictures.
Youíve certainly been busy keeping us entertained even if I still get mightily confused by all the continental rolling stock.  Iím sure Iíll get the hang of it one day. :doh:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 19, 2019, 08:15:07 PM
Many thanks, Chris (Weave) for the photos. and continuing story. That is a very fine collection of continental coaches.

Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 19, 2019, 09:00:21 PM
The coaches and wagons safely chained in place on the train ferry decks, the ferry was made ready to sail.

The four young women had quickly made their way to the cafe bar, invited by Christian.

Sofia was standing next to Catala as she stood next Christian whilst he placed their orders at the counter.

"Do you think Christian knows how to get to Sonmel, Eli?" asked Sylvia as the two friends waited at their table for four.

"Well, he's German and they are terribly efficient and organised, aren't they", smiled Eli. "He must have a contact there as, otherwise, how would he know that Sonmel exists?"

"True, true, Eli. If we hadn't met that gentleman from Sonmel at that party, in London, we would never have received our invitation to Sonmel and the train ferry tickets and tourist visas from the Honourary Consul. We had never heard of Sonmel before that, had we?"

"No, but Susan asked the TARDIS and she knew all about it, Sylvia."

"True, true. Here comes Sofia . .. with Catala and Christian."
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 19, 2019, 10:25:21 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:
 Many thanks again Chris, excellent story  :thumbsup: Thanks Chris (IP) aptly moving the story along
        regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 19, 2019, 10:31:18 PM
Hi Chris (IP),

Thank you for taking the reins there. Making stuff up and posting pics is quite knackering, especially if one's not very good at it and there's fantasy islands and time travellers involved.

I'll stay in the pub. I've just spent an hour or so in 'La Cidrerie' bar in Port Regleun having a couple of Lambigs, or gwinardants, as Didier prefers to call them, with himself and Jean-Paul after their shift.

Didier was whingeing that not only were the SNCF, in association with RENFE, thinking of starting a new Talgo service from Port Regleun to Barcelona, possibly via Izaro, and beyond to Valencia but also that the whole right hand side of the harbour might be turned at a right angle and placed against the back wall with the buildings on the right and the slipway on the left or even vice versa.

No new pics today but will be asking opinions soon. Old pics here.....

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Wall and more quay on the right, just enough gap for fishing boats between the back quay and station quay.

Will explain better tomorrow with a new pic.

Sorry for all the undecidedness but need to get the back right first as it's a bit of a lean over to work on and knowing me I'll crush the station.

Speak again soon.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 20, 2019, 09:12:11 PM
Thanks for the updates, Chris (Weave). I really like the new layout.

I'm waiting for some info. from Keith about the Honorary Consul for Sonmel.

I'm presuming the train ferry will after its departure from Regleun, first, call at West Porthsea Quay before continuing on to Sonmel without Sylvia and Eli?
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 20, 2019, 09:55:15 PM
Hi Chris (IP),

Basically yes. Probably best to keep it simple. Eli and Sylvia can travel on to Penmayne (or wherever you want) with the Touropa coach, Christian can go on to Sonmel (however that happens) and, depending on what Keith wants to do, he can mention him or not, and Sofia and Catala could join Christian or just come back to Izaro.

I'll be concentrating more on the Sant Pau de Mar layout if posting pics in the next few weeks so do what you gotta do and I'll go with the flow. Whatever happens I'm sure Catala and Christian will meet up again for the Izaro Beer Festival towards the end of Summer.

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:

PS. No pics of the potential movement of buildings due to phone camera out of action but, Chris (IP), forgot that I think you wanted a pic of the height difference between the Minitrix Touropa and the Roco ones. Have only got one pic next to the Scharnow Reisen coach which is exactly the same as the Touropa....

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Not great to compare and you might have said length as well but will sort over the Weekend.

Prost to all in Sonmel  :beers:  :beers:  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 21, 2019, 02:56:04 PM
Thanks, Chris (Weave) for the photo. Interesting, the short Minitrix TOUROPA Couchette Car seems a bit taller. Fortunately, thanks to Brunel's generous Broad Gauge, it is still well within the loading gauge for the entire route from West Porthsea Quay to Penmayne.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 21, 2019, 03:36:49 PM
Christian, Catala and Sofia, had only just joined Sylvia and Eli at their table, to await the waiter with their chosen drinks, when a message came over the train ferry's tannoy.

"Would Herr Christian Weber, please, come to the Purser's Office for an important message."

"Hmm, I wonder what that could be. Excuse me for a moment ladies."

Try as she might, Catala couldn't quite disguise a moue of disappointment.

After asking the approaching drinks waiter for directions, Christian strode off to the Purser's Office, after checking that he had his passport, for identification, in his jacket pocket.

"Hello. I'm Christian Weber, I understand that you have a message for me," he stated on arrival at the window like that at a station for selling tickets but clearly marked PURSER.

"Yes, sir. Passport, please."

After carefully studying the green covered document, the Purser handed over a sealed plain manilla envelope devoid of any marking.

"Please, sign here, to state that you have received the envelope."

"Thank you," replied Christian as he signed the form. Walking away, he stopped as soon as he found a private corner, then removed his penknife from an inside pocket and carefully opened the envelope.  Inside he found a covering note from the Head of the Sonmel Tourist Board bearing the STB logo, confirming an official invitation for himself and a guest whose name and passport details had to be sent by telegram before departure from West Porthsea Quay, two return 1st Class tickets plus "Pullman" upgrade on Sonmel, a business visa made out with his name and personal details and a blank tourist visa stamped with "accompanying business visa no." with the other visa's number, both valid for 28 days from that day's date, the schedule for the train ferry from West Porthsea Quay to Sonmel, and return, with connecting trains, and a slim leaflet titled "Important Advice for Visitors to the Island of Sonmel, Please Read and Take Note".

After carefully replacing all the documents, Christian approached the four inquisitive young ladies.

Before sitting next to Catala, Christian said: "Ladies, would you excuse me a moment, I need to have a private word with . . . Catala." Catala blushed very prettily and quickly rose to follow Christian to a quiet corner of the bar.

"Whatever is THAT all about", wondered Sofia more than a little put out that the very handsome young German businessman had already decided to concentrate his attentions on her friend who, in her opinion, while undoubtedly beautiful, was not as attractive as herself.

"Did you see that envelope that Christian had under his arm, Eli?" asked Sylvia leaning towards her friend seated beside her.

"Yes, indeed, it looks just like the one . . . " Eli suddenly stopped remembering that Sofia had not been told about the "Chelsea Girls" spring visit to Sonmel as she had not been included in the Honorary Consul's invitation list.

"Just like the one, which, Eli?" asked Sofia.

"Oh, nothing really. Like the enevelope, our travel agent sends our travel documents in," quickly responded Sylvia.

"You know, when we're travelling abroad," added her friend.

"As we do," stated Sylvia. "As you know."

"I see," replied Sofia, clearly not completely convinced.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 21, 2019, 11:59:01 PM
 :hellosign: Looking forward to seeing more on the harbour developments Chris (Weave), take your time till your 100% happy.
     Thanks Chris (IP) for the continuing story, I feel a cunning twist to the tale shortly  ;)
      regards Derek.   :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 22, 2019, 10:06:18 AM
Thanks, Derek. Yes, indeed. It is the red-gold metal called in Ancient Greek, orichalcum, which in Rockall is known as evragar, which enables travel between such discontinuities in space and time, as is about to be explained by Sylvia 8-).
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 22, 2019, 11:18:57 AM
Whilst Christian was talking quietly but very earnestly to an increasingly visibly surprised Catala, Sofia rose and, as flamboyantly as she knew, flounced off past them to the direction of the facilities signed 'Ladies'.

"Well, well," smiled Eli. Our friend, Sofia, seems rather put out, does she not!"

"Oh, she'll get over it, Eli. It's her Latin temperament. She was never as entranced as Catala so clearly is with Herr Weber, she just doesn't like to be ignored!"

"No, that's for sure!" laughed the pretty young Breton. "Anyway, now we are alone, tell me what Susan learnt from the TARDIS about the islands of Sonmel and Rockall, please."

"Well, there is very little, surprisingly, in the TARDIS databanks about Sonmel that we weren't told by our local guide during our visit. After being wrapped in the utmost obscurity, following our trip with our friends, and the seminar you and I gave on tourism marketing, the newly founded Sonmel Tourist Board is planning a German beer festival and that explains Herr Weber's presence and all those German brewery vans we saw being loaded below deck."

"Yes, yes, I understand that, Sylvia, but why are he and the ferry vans being routed via West Porthsea Quay and not directly from the Continent?"

"A good question. All I know is that the newly opened Rockall train ferry service runs from our side of the Narrow Sea and not the Continental mainland. We would have to ask the Sonmel authorities about that."

"Maybe, Sylvia, the situation of Sonmel is like the Channel Islands, which although they are off the French coast of Normandy -- which was once part of Britanny until those French-speaking Vikings seized it -- are two British Crown dependencies yet not part of the United Kingdom: the Bailiwick of Jersey being the larger and the Bailiwick of Guernsey."

"That's possible, Eli. I hadn't thought of that. Sonmel certainly is self-governing with its own Customs and Immigration controls."

"Anyway, tell me what you learnt from Susan about Rockall and the connection with Sonmel."

"Well, the connection is the red-gold metal called in Ancient Greek, orichalcum, which in Rockall is known as evragar, which enables travel between such discontinuities in space and time as surround both Sonmel and Rockall. Every form of transport, in this case, the train ferry, must have sufficient orichalcum on board to safely travel to and fro along with all that it is transporting including people and animals as well as inanimate objects. By tradition, as we saw when the train ferry captain invited us to the wheelhouse, the ship's steering wheel is inlaid with a single circular piece of refined orichalcum symbolising the unbroken circle of arrivals and departures. You may also have noticed the unbroken circle of red-gold braid around the peak and the sides and back of the captain's cap."

"Yes, I did. I also noticed the coat of arms of Sonmel above it. Anyway, please, continue, the others will be back soon!"

"Well, you remember that large quarry at Sonmel?"

"Yes, yes."

"Well, according to Susan, the TARDIS database state that orichalcum was once mined there, too, but the vein was exhausted in Phoenician times. The rock formation containing that ore is similar to that found in the North Atlantic basin, including Rockall where the Doctor is now investigating whether there is still evragar there and, if so, if it is shielded from discovery by the Daleks."

Eli shuddered. "Very wise! I don't want to have to go through THAT ever again! I see Christian and Catala are still in heated conversation and Sofia is, probably, taking some sea air to calm down! So, Rockall . . . !"

"As well as I can remember it, its chronicler, Anthony Swithin, records its history thus: Long ago, Rockall, located in the North Atlantic basin, was but the northern part, the mountainous part, of a great empire. A great and rich empire that was rich in gold and copper and the lost red gold metal which, as I mentioned, the Rockalese call evragar; we know it as 'orichalcum' from the ancient writings of Greece. The peoples of that empire built great cities, fine roads to speed their armies, and temples with stepped sides, dedicated to the sun they worshipped. The ancestor's of today's Rockalese people lived in the mountains north of that realm. They were conquered by this empire, but never wholly subdued; they paid tribute reluctantly and supplied victims unwillingly to the empire's temples. For they were very evil, those people of that empire. Their many slaves groaned under their rule and the stink of their sacrifices rose to offend the Heavens. In the end, there came retribution. Great earthquakes threw down their temples. The waters of the oceans rose and overwhelmed their land, drowning fields, mines and cities. Only the high land of Rockall remained and a few lesser hills to the southward, left now as islands."

"When was this?" Sylvia?"

"Oh, long ago. Three thousand years ago, perhaps. Ah, here comes Christian and Catala and they are both smiling."

"That's good," winked Eli.

"And I can see Catala approaching, too!"
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 22, 2019, 10:58:48 PM
Thank you Chris (IP) for the story,

Had to work a long day today because of the good weather (curse of the self employed) so still no pics of the possible harbour building's new position.

Your story about Rockall is intriguing although slightly different from the story/legend I heard from my Irish gran about Fionn mac Cumhaill (Finn Mac Cool), Rockall, the Isle of Man and Lough Neagh etc. but please continue.

Hopefully some pics tomorrow,

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:





Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 23, 2019, 10:20:15 AM
No problem, Chris (Weave). Thanks for the comments. Rockall is taken from the series of four books, "The Perilous Quest For Lyonesse" written by the late Antony Swithin (who I mentioned as the chronicler recorded in the TARDIS databanks). I don't want to divert the storyline to Rockall but the link with orichalcum and a mysterious island was too good to resist. Rockall and orichalcum also gets the Doctor out of the story. I also wanted Catala to be able to accompany Christian to Sonmel and pass that story on to Keith and you. Sofia will then accompany Sylvia and Eli, by train from West Porthsea Quay back to Trevelver Castle via Truro, Newquay, Wadebridge, and Cant Cove, to get ready for the Summer train timetable. Before that, though, Sylvia and Eli will take Sofia to stay in Chelsea where they will meet up with the rest of the "Chelsea Girls" including Susan then go to one of the new discotheques featuring a young DJ, James Hamilton, at "Esmereldaís Barn", a nightclub in Londonís Knightsbridge, infamously owned by the Kray Twins, where Sylvia and Eli will spot someone all too familiar. Also, in London, the "Girls" can meet up with other Continental, American and Canadian young women known to them . . . (which I'll leave to you to describe how they all end up, in London, at a Youth Hostel). That sighting in the nightclub will lead Sylvia and Eli to visit Scotland Yard and meet with another familiar character who has been contacted, quite separately, about a certain prize racehorse but, that case soon becomes far more complex . . . Inbetween, I plan to tie up various loose threads from October 1962.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 23, 2019, 03:50:23 PM
Hi all,

As promised a bit of aesthetic advice/help required regarding the fishing harbour buildings. I thought it might look better if the ones on the right went at the back with the slipway next to it. I'll show you three options but any others are welcome ('I'd give up modelling if I were you' is not an option by the way coz I'd cry  :D).

As it was and you've seen....


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Some of these are blurry so apologies but buildings at back, slipway on left. There will be a wall and loading quay on the right hand side, the bit of cork and balsa representing it.....


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Slipway on the right option.....

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It's difficult to get a proper overall view but think there is enough room for boats so it doesn't look silly. Token fishing boat for scale.....

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Also, have been neglecting my '80s/'90s trains recently so a few pics of the Autocar service to Erquy, a BB66000 looking after a refrigerated fish wagon and the arrival of a couchette and sleeper train from Nice pulled by a dual voltage BB25200, the voltage change from DC to AC at Le Mans in real life (broom broom  ;)).

Thanks for reading and as I meant at the start any help greatly appreciated.

Hope you're all having a nice lazy Sunday.

Cheers weave  :beers:

EDIT Forgot to put train pics in,  :doh:, will do so soon.



Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: port perran on June 23, 2019, 04:00:21 PM
Thanks for those photographs Chris, even if the blurry ones make my eyes go funny (maybe I need a pint or two before looking at them).
Iíve been busy making a farmyard for our Club layout today as itís been raining all day so that has also added to my tired old eyes.
But.......I think I prefer the slipway on the right option. If Iím understanding your sequence correctly. And, I think you have plenty of room for boats/ships etc. Any bigger and I think that the harbour would look too large.
Just my thoughts but overall, it looks great.
Have fun.

Martin
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 23, 2019, 04:14:00 PM
Train pics.....

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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48114017727_684c51f24d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giEVcM)20190623_144028 (https://flic.kr/p/2giEVcM) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48113953003_3b36160c63_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giEzXR)20190623_144005 (https://flic.kr/p/2giEzXR) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48113929076_65b5df32d1_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giEsRj)20190623_144300 (https://flic.kr/p/2giEsRj) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48113925436_db8811b3de_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giErLy)20190623_144216 (https://flic.kr/p/2giErLy) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

Cheers again, weave  :beers:

PS @Chris in Prague (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2895), I lost track of what happened with Fermin and Rae Anne. The last I remember was he'd gone to Scotland and she'd gone to Sicily but will read back and think of something to get her back to London  :).
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 23, 2019, 04:31:19 PM
Hi Martin,

Thanks for the reply,

Hoping this is your preferred option, I quite like these pics as that's sort of where I would be standing when operating....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48114011102_22fab09d8c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giETey)20190623_143236 (https://flic.kr/p/2giETey) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48113953003_3b36160c63_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giEzXR)20190623_144005 (https://flic.kr/p/2giEzXR) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

 The quay needs work but with walls to the right and sky behind the buildings I think it'll look OK. The water (although probably tide out sand) to sky bit might look a bid odd but it's not that wide and I can live with that.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: port perran on June 23, 2019, 04:33:47 PM
Thatís the one Weave and thanks for the train photos too.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Hiawatha on June 23, 2019, 05:11:32 PM
Hi weave, thank you for the pictures but can I ask that you also tell a bit about the trains? Like who made the locos and coaches and the nice autorail? I know that Arnold and Piko have made similar looking locos (probably different classes) but as I am not a specialist of SNCF equipment I donít remember who made what Ö :-[
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 23, 2019, 05:13:44 PM
Yeah, I'm for that arrangement too.

However, my mind is somewhat addled (a not uncommon state according to Mrs Keith...) trying to keep roughly on track with the exploits of Herr Weber and the luscious Catala on Sonmel. Therefore I may well come back later and say that I prefer option B, or is that the one I've chosen, or was that C?? I need a beer (Spanish, Estrella Dam today).  :beers:

PS nice boat, I recognise that model  :D
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 23, 2019, 06:04:14 PM
I prefer the buildings on the right and the slipway on the left as it's a shorter (and safer) walk from the station to the buildings and the buildings are more sheltered from stormy waves with the slipway on the left.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 23, 2019, 06:38:39 PM
I also lost track of what happened with Fermin and Rae Anne. The last I remember was he'd gone to Auchterarder, Perthshire, to finalise the arrangements for shipments of "Tullibardine" whisky. but that was last autumn, 1962, I think, after Fermin and the others had returned from their visit to Marton Hinmarche. I didn't know that, after London, Rae Anne and her friends had gone to Sicily but that would make sense.

I think that Fermin and Rae Anne would have exchanged letters and agreed to meet up for the summer of 1963 and the "Chelsea Girls" could have offered them space for their sleeping bags on the floor of their rented Chelsea house. Ferman and Rae Anne could then go with the "Chelsea Girls" and their friends to  ĎEsmereldaís Barní nightclub in Knightsbridge.

I'll leave Keith and you to sort out Herr Weber and the luscious Catala's stay on Sonmel and thereafter. 8-)
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 23, 2019, 08:08:58 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
      I`m agreeing with Chris (IP) IMO looks the better option.
         regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Phoenix on June 23, 2019, 08:16:01 PM
Hi Chris,


Have not been around much recently, so am catching up on what's been going on here, and love the new look of your harbour.

 :thumbsup: :D :thumbsup: :D :thumbsup: :D :thumbsup:

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 23, 2019, 10:44:51 PM
Evening all,

To start with, it looks like, in the first round of "Brittany 'hasn't' Got Talent", there are 2 votes (Martin and Keith) for LHS buildings and 2 votes (Chris (IP) and Derek for RHS (more flowers maybe?  :D) buildings with weave undecided but thinking LHS for the buildings (with a bit of quay extension).

Thank you chaps for the input but can I just clarify that you all think, whether LHS or RHS of the slipway that the buildings and slipway look better at the back than to the side?

This is important as I can build the quay to the right with walls etc. against the house wall and decide on the position of the slipway later. Probably doesn't make sense but I know what I mean  ;)

Moving on,

Martin (Port Perran), sorry the third pic earlier was wrong, see your confusion, so have deleted it.

Hiawatha, the autocar is made by Mikadotrain (REE Modeles), think there's been rebranding there but you'll probably know more about that than me.

The refrigerated STEF wagon is Arnold and the blue BB 66*** loco is 'new' Piko.

The green BB 252** loco is Arnold, old but after Arnold Rapido (I think). The baggage car is Lima (I like it, they did some crap but some of their stuff is good, bless 'em), the couchettes 'new' Piko again and the CIWL is either Fleischmann or Rivarossi (have both and can't remember). Hope helps. Can't do exact loco numbers as I forget and the train room is out of bounds when the good wife is asleep as the dogs bark and howl to be let in.  :no: dog hairs.

Finally, Kevin (Phoenix), glad your back and don't forget to vote  :)

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: GreyWolf on June 24, 2019, 06:52:50 AM
Quote from: weave
Evening all,

... in the first round of "Brittany 'hasn't' Got Talent", there are 2 votes (Martin and Keith) for LHS buildings and 2 votes (Chris (IP) and Derek for RHS (more flowers maybe?  :D) buildings with weave undecided but thinking LHS for the buildings (with a bit of quay extension).

Thank you chaps for the input but can I just clarify that you all think, whether LHS or RHS of the slipway that the buildings and slipway look better at the back than to the side?

This is important as I can build the quay to the right with walls etc. against the house wall and decide on the position of the slipway later. Probably doesn't make sense but I know what I mean  ;)

...

Cheers weave  :beers:

Hi Weave,

If I can throw my tuppence in ...

I think the buildings on the RHS(?) are correct, butting up to the rail line. If you rotate the 'slipway' by 90 degrees then the slip will now exit onto the road.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/5843-240619064652.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=78798)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/5843-240619064732.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=78799)

This will give you a space at the LHS(?) of the small harbor for other more ship related items; such as a boat crane etc.

Just my thoughts ... loving the buildings!

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: port perran on June 24, 2019, 08:53:54 AM
Hi Chris

Apologies but Iím getting very confused here. I know itís not hard!
I like the formation as it is in the picture you sent at 4.31 yesterday with the single blue train.
I presume the harbour access (for boats) is between the two sets of buildings.
If thatís your preferred option itís thumbs up from me  :thumbsup:

Unless, Iím mistaken (easily done) that is what Grey Wolf is suggesting.

Hope it all works out.

Martin

Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 24, 2019, 09:33:40 AM
Hi Greywolf,

See what your saying. Will see what it looks like later but was thinking that the loading from the fishing boats would be railside......

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48114030732_1c37cab125_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giEZ51)20190623_144442 (https://flic.kr/p/2giEZ51) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

The tramway track will only be one not two so plenty of room for cranes and things.

Hi Martin,

You are correct in that the boat access is between the buildings in the pic that you like but not correct about Greywolf's suggestion which is keeping the buildings against the right hand wall, turning the slipway so it's against the back wall and extending the quay left and adding cranes etc. against the back wall.

Thanks for the interest.

Cheers weave  :beers:







Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: GreyWolf on June 24, 2019, 10:39:28 AM
Quote from: weave
Hi Greywolf,

See what you're saying. Will see what it looks like later but was thinking that the loading from the fishing boats would be railside......

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48114030732_1c37cab125_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giEZ51)20190623_144442 (https://flic.kr/p/2giEZ51) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

The tramway track will only be one, not two so plenty of room for cranes and things.

Hi Martin,

You are correct in that the boat access is between the buildings in the pic that you like but ... keeping the buildings against the right-hand wall, turning the slipway so it's against the back wall and extending the quay left and adding cranes etc. against the back wall.

Thanks for the interest.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Ah, I thought that the "tram/rail-way" side would be for the ferry ... and the opposite side could be the fishing harbour/market etc.?

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 24, 2019, 11:11:35 AM
Whether the three buildings including the open air cafe area are at right angles to, or parallel to, the railway tracks, I think they should be on the right, for easy access and better protection from storms, rather than at the far left end where they will be more exposed. The slipway should be sited after the buildings.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 24, 2019, 12:05:01 PM
Hi Greywolf,

All a bit complicated due to me changing my mind but it's just a fishing harbour now and the ferry terminal will be along a causeway on the other side of the room.

Hi Chris (IP),

I know what you're saying about access but regarding storms am thinking that the fishing harbour and station are way back from the actual sea on that side and perhaps the buildings in question look out the other way as well (ie where the house wall is) to another small harbour for yachts etc. The wall will only be on the right and then along the sticking out bit of the house wall.

Imagination is difficult to describe. There's a sort of isthmus thing going on. I'll draw a map and post this week before everyone has had enough of me and gives up viewing if you haven't already  :(.

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:



Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 24, 2019, 10:32:41 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
  Always very interested how your decision looks Chris.
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 25, 2019, 12:17:50 PM
Thanks, Chris (Weave). I think I understand, now. I do hope though that there will be a nice broad walkway from the station around to the three buildings so that no-one falls into the harbour late at night!
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 25, 2019, 12:42:35 PM
Hi all,

Just to say that a Tullibardine Malt Whisky ferry wagon was seen in Hampshire early yesterday evening and is believed to be bound for France.

Didier and Jean-Paul (station pilot loco crew at Port Regleun) had also noticed the wagon on their roster for week. The exact arrival date in Brittany was in doubt but probably on the Wednesday morning ferry arrival from West Porthsea Quay.

The two lads had noticed it as it was marked 'special' in that half the load was to be unloaded at the Port Regleun fishing harbour quay station with some crates going to local bars and hotels. Other crates were to be reloaded onto an SNCF wagon bound for Brest and Quimper.

The Tullibardine liveried wagon is then to be attached to a southbound train, a goods train or possibly to the rear of a sleeper train, undecided yet, one of the destinations being Sant Pau de Mar in the Principality of Izaro. It is hoped that the whisky should arrive by Friday or Saturday for local hostelries and the Grand Opening of Nicolau Cordona and Esteve Roig's Beach Bar.

Through Aina, Nicolau's sister, then her friend Catala, her friend Sofia and her dad Josť Maria de La Vega the whisky had come highly recommended and many crates had been ordered.

Have pm'd you Andrew, @Milton Rail (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4934) , but thank you again for the Perthshire parcel.

Cheers weave  :beers: +  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 25, 2019, 01:16:52 PM
Hi Chris (IP),

Thank you for the reply. There are plans for an expanded walkway anyway but especially now as there are rumours that due to the Station Hotel on the other side of the quay having most of the clientele and as most people are through passengers and don't need hotel accommodation, the Hotel Gwiad may sell up and it be changed into a Scottish bar.

Negotiations are taking place as we speak. 'La Cidrerie' bar next door think it's a great idea as they can be a bit noisier and as it's a bit away from anything else there can be more live music. More people and therefore no threat to business, in fact it might increase.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 29, 2019, 10:24:14 PM
Thanks, Chris (Weave). That all makes excellent sense.

Now, I need to keep up with which places are 'visible' as destination or departure points!
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 29, 2019, 11:08:52 PM
Thanks, Chris (Weave). That all makes excellent sense.

Now, I need to keep up with which places are 'visible' as destination or departure points!

Hi Chris (IP),

Could be the heat, so apologies, but what does the second sentence mean please?

Thanks Chris (weave)
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 29, 2019, 11:13:15 PM
My apologies, Chris (Weave), which places are now being modelled and which one is no longer.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 29, 2019, 11:40:01 PM
Hi Chris (IP),

Sorry. I forget what I've said and because it's in my head I sometimes presume people know what I'm talking about.

So, there are just two layouts now......

Firstly, Port Regleun (Port Regleun IV - A new hope thread ie. this one) which is the Brittany fishing port that now has all the buildings and will have the ferry port separated by a causeway. Trťmargat St. Croix no longer exists.

Secondly, Sant Pau de Mar (Principat d'Izaro thread) which is in the East of the peninsular of Izaro. Previous Principat d'Izaro town names might be mentioned but do not exist anymore in layout form.

Hope that makes sense and will be amending the Alternative West Country thread shortly.

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:

Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on June 30, 2019, 12:12:41 AM
Hi all,

Have edited the 'Alternative West Country and friends' thread so hopefully all is now clear  :)  :worried:.

Hope you all survived our one day of heat.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: weave on October 09, 2019, 10:09:17 PM
Hi all,

Been a while but a bit of progress on Port Regleun. I've decided to move the buildings from previous pics to the right hand side alcove with yachts and fishing boats etc. (to be sorted) and have the train ferry on the left hand side where the buildings were as it fits the harbour depth when I first built it.

This means I can have a causeway going round two of the other sides of the room and the side where the window is will eventually be a bridge but for the moment will be just a plank of wood to connect it all up. I have a geographic plan of the area in my head to explain where trains are going and coming from, the rivers and sea etc. but will do that another time.

So, a few pics of the causeway. This goes across the doorway and isn't very neat, but that will all be hidden with rocks etc., as had to raise the track level in the harbour for the ferry and then adjust what I had already built accordingly.

I wasn't quite sure what I was doing but I wanted it to be removable. The removable piece lifts out and is just held down with bolts and wing nuts. I've managed to line up the Kato track without connectors but with a constant power feed and it all works.

I was going to do video but it is quite precarious and didn't want Mick NPN to start having kittens  :D. Although there will be a sea wall at the back, there will have to be some sort of clear plastic at the front methinks.

Pic of where the buildings were, now the ferry lock with causeway approaching the door.....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48872155297_376e9aac68_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hsEz6c)20191009_195619 (https://flic.kr/p/2hsEz6c) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

Causeway coming round across the doorway.......

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48871428173_577fac557e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hsAQWz)20191009_195607 (https://flic.kr/p/2hsAQWz) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

The causeway.....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48871955261_b1767a7740_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hsDxCi)20191009_195549 (https://flic.kr/p/2hsDxCi) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


Other side of the doorway......

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48871421888_a4e0f6cdea_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hsAP5d)20191009_195539 (https://flic.kr/p/2hsAP5d) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


Continuing on where there will be outlets from the river to the sea....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48872144792_9abd2bbd50_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hsEvY5)20191009_195516 (https://flic.kr/p/2hsEvY5) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


Some pics of the first train across the void. Was one of it mid precariousness but it hasn't uploaded, anyway, it made it across......


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48872159472_d5c09c69ce_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hsEAkb)20191009_195837 (https://flic.kr/p/2hsEAkb) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48872160972_4a973063dc_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hsEAM3)20191009_195957 (https://flic.kr/p/2hsEAM3) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48871970541_3b30ad1b1e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hsDCaK)20191009_200203 (https://flic.kr/p/2hsDCaK) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


Finally the ferry. It won't be exactly where it is but I was just getting the levels right.....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48872158027_af155f1d1c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hsEzUg)20191009_195701 (https://flic.kr/p/2hsEzUg) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr

I have done some of the infrastructure and have worked on a smaller 'Sonmel' train ferry but nothing worth showing. Not that these pics are great but thought better keep the thread going.

Cheers and Santť from Brittany, weave  :beers:





Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Bealman on October 09, 2019, 10:16:53 PM
That looks great!  :thumbsup:

Glad the train made it! Also glad you didn't video it, 'cos you're right, Mick would have had kittens.

Cool livery on that loco, by the way.  :beers:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: keithbythe sea on October 10, 2019, 07:11:22 AM
Some big changes! Looking good.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: cornish yorkie on October 10, 2019, 04:10:45 PM
 :hellosign:.  :greatpicturessign:
  Many thanks for the updates Chris, an interesting change, looking good so far
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Port Regleun IV - A new hope
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 10, 2019, 04:23:28 PM
:hellosign:.  :greatpicturessign:
  Many thanks for the updates Chris, an interesting change, looking good so far
       regards Derek.

Seconded! That should all look very good. A very nice combination of sea and railway.