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Title: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: TrevL on November 27, 2018, 11:31:04 AM
Hi folks,
Just found this on eBay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/N-GAUGE-FARISH-CLASS-37-no-6714-TTS-DCC-SOUND/352512354476?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3Df2da4925c85e49fc98bc31d3ae627179%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D352512354476%26itm%3D352512354476&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/N-GAUGE-FARISH-CLASS-37-no-6714-TTS-DCC-SOUND/352512354476?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3Df2da4925c85e49fc98bc31d3ae627179%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D352512354476%26itm%3D352512354476&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507)

Seems quite cheap compared to the competition.
Has anyone used this seller, or had experience of the sound system please?
Title: Re: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: dannyboy on November 27, 2018, 11:50:57 AM
From memory, I seem to recall buying something from this seller and I can not remember having any problems.
Title: Re: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: Ditape on November 27, 2018, 11:51:50 AM
The TTS sound Merchant Navy I have sounds good to me.
Title: Re: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: Paul-H on November 27, 2018, 02:17:21 PM
Hi

I have them in my Farish Classes 31, 37, 47 and have zero issues with them.

Paul
Title: Re: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: DELTICNAPIER on November 29, 2018, 09:00:30 AM
Hi, all the TTS work is my doing. I think the user name is a give away. They are cheap because that is what they are worth. There is a lot of rip off merchants and people who think they know what they are doing and basically produce garbidge.. Im happy to answer any questions 😲.  Paul..
Title: Re: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: Steven B on November 29, 2018, 09:15:34 AM
The Hornby TTS decoders are OK but do benefit from using the best speaker you can find/fit.

In my opnion they're not as good as a LegomanBiffo, or Bachmann/Farish's factory fitted DCC sound, but they do cost less than half as much. They're good value for money though.
Title: Re: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: DELTICNAPIER on November 29, 2018, 09:25:11 AM
You hit the nail on the head there. With the 37 there are 2 things that let it down,horns and break squel. I am Legomanbiffo's n gauge sound fitter, infact he coming round in a bit.. The best 37 sound in my opinion is his latest sound file,it has plenty of wheel slip if you wack it right open..
Title: Re: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: TrevL on November 29, 2018, 09:34:04 AM
Does that mean you will likely be fitting his sound file to the TTS chips?
Title: Re: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: njee20 on November 29, 2018, 09:43:48 AM
I'll wager a very significant sum of money that's never going to happen! Even if possible why would he do that!?
Title: Re: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: DELTICNAPIER on November 29, 2018, 09:45:43 AM
That cant be done because its different software. You see people advertising locos with esu sound. Esu dont produce a sound. They do have sounds on their website with european locos on. Zimo,esu and tts use different software so they are not interchangable. Tts were created by paul chetter for hornby.  Legoman uses esu so an esu decoder is required which cost around the 115 mark. The only distrubted of esu in this country is swd unless you find a supplier on the other side of the water... Its all down to this brexit rubbish for the higher price,exchange rate and everyone adding their bit. I used to pay 75 for an esu v4 micro 8 years ago.. Its gone crazey. 😱
Title: Re: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: njee20 on November 29, 2018, 09:59:40 AM
And that's nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit, but gold star for getting that in!  ;)
Title: Re: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: DELTICNAPIER on November 29, 2018, 10:09:57 AM
Well thank you sir.👍  We can agree on something, the decoder price is a total rip off ,whoever is inflating the price 😠.
Title: Re: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: njee20 on November 29, 2018, 10:27:37 AM
Yep, given the drop in prices in consumable electronics and the increased volumes versus 10 years ago I agree it's annoying that decoder prices remain stubbornly high. I guess with sound stuff they're still quite niche, maybe in 5 years their ubiquity will mean we'll see more at 50-60 or so, when I think they'd be more viable.
Title: Re: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: DELTICNAPIER on November 29, 2018, 10:35:32 AM
Well lets hope so.😤
Title: Re: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: Paul-H on November 29, 2018, 11:16:38 AM
I think we are all holding out for that day when one of the Chinese companies decides there is enough of a volume to justify them turning them out for a few pence each, that the only way we will see any form of significant price drop, it happened with the flight controllers used in todays drones so might eventually happen to DCC sound, LAISDCC standard decoders are a sign that it can be done.

Paul
Title: Re: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: njee20 on November 29, 2018, 11:55:06 AM
I guess what will happen then is that the cost of a reblow will go up markedly. You can already get 'empty' MX649s for c80 or so, with reblows costing c15 it's basically not worth it. If the cost of the hardware fell to (say) 40, you have to imagine the cost of a reblow would rise, as people would have no choice, captive market and all that.
Title: Re: HORNBY'S TTS SOUND, any good?
Post by: red_death on November 29, 2018, 12:46:53 PM
Production costs of sound decoders are not the issue - that is already relatively cheap - but the expensive part is software and continuous development particularly when compared to the still relatively low volumes being sold.
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