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Title: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Maurits71 on September 17, 2018, 07:49:22 AM
Happy Monday all.

Not my layout but my neighbours who have kept this little gem a secret  ;) for everybody till last weekend.


(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/x9zl4RWuvbM/2.jpg)
click here please (https://youtu.be/x9zl4RWuvbM)

enjoy the moment :)

Best regards

Maurits
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Innovationgame on September 17, 2018, 07:56:27 AM
Wow!  :thumbsup: :beers: :wonderfulmodelling:
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: njee20 on September 17, 2018, 08:01:55 AM
Not sure about the soundtrack, but the layout looks excellent, particularly the track.
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Train Waiting on September 17, 2018, 09:17:22 AM
Thank you very much, Maurits, for posting this excellent film of a marvellous model railway.

I think it would be splendid if your neighbour joined our happy crew on the Forum!


Thanks again and best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Bealman on September 17, 2018, 09:18:43 AM
That is indeed fantastic modelling. Far better than I could achieve! The finescale track looks great, and stock seems to run smoothly.  :thumbsup:

My only slight criticism (and I have a guilty feeling even suggesting this), is that with such brilliant modelling, the exits at each end of the scenic section could do with a little more disguising.

Great stuff!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: thebrighton on September 17, 2018, 10:59:15 AM
The track makes all the difference hence why Peco will never feature on any future layout of mine. Great layout.
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Roy L S on September 17, 2018, 12:01:49 PM
A magnificent layout, beautifully modelled and yes, the trackwork looks exquisite.

Roy
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Milton Rail on September 17, 2018, 12:47:00 PM
Lovely layout, thanks for sharing it with us
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Maurits71 on September 17, 2018, 08:51:55 PM
That is indeed fantastic modelling. Far better than I could achieve! The finescale track looks great, and stock seems to run smoothly.  :thumbsup:

My only slight criticism (and I have a guilty feeling even suggesting this), is that with such brilliant modelling, the exits at each end of the scenic section could do with a little more disguising.

Great stuff!  :thumbsup:

i do agree with the ends, I understand its on the ttd list
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: jacowin80 on September 17, 2018, 10:02:53 PM
Fantastic stuff and only a few miles down the line from where I grew up.  I even know a couple who live in one of the old railway cottages so will be showing them this next time I see them.
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Stevie DC on September 18, 2018, 11:04:14 AM
What a wonderful bit of modelling! I think I've shared a conversation with the builder on Facebook. If I can make my layout look half as good as that, I'll be very happy!
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Ditape on September 18, 2018, 12:05:26 PM
 :wonderfulmodelling: :greatwork: :superblayout: :jealous:
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Dalek on September 18, 2018, 12:55:26 PM
WOW !

 :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Vonzack on September 18, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
That does look fantastic, have the wheelsets on the loco or stock had to be modified?
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: njee20 on September 18, 2018, 01:27:15 PM
That's what puts me off 2mm FS, the sheer cost and pain of having to re-wheel everything!
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Vonzack on September 18, 2018, 01:32:13 PM
I think you can get away with it in Code 40, but would be nice to have confirmation, as the trackwork does look very nice.
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: njee20 on September 18, 2018, 01:35:37 PM
Code 40 to N gauge standards you can, and on 2FS plain track (like Easitrac), but if you use finescale pointwork you need to change/turn down the wheels. It's not specifically the rail depth it's the clearances around frogs etc.

If I handbuilt I'd stick with N gauge standards. Cavan Millward (sp?) has done it with Burton-on-Trent, which looks good.
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Maurits71 on September 19, 2018, 09:09:34 PM
as far as I am aware no wheels are changed, only back to backs have been done
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: njee20 on September 19, 2018, 09:51:13 PM
Thatíd be interesting to know. It looks like 9.42mm gauge, but maybe itís a hybrid of N and 2FS?

A friend who does 2FS said you have to change wheels for pointwork, except perhaps things with very small flanges, although plain track is fine.
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: keitharmes on January 11, 2019, 08:20:20 PM
Just noticed this thread.

As the builder of the pointwork I can confirm that it is built to modern N gauge standards, so no wheels need modifying. The points are of soldered construction using code 40 rail, copper clad sleepers and 10thou chairplates from the 2FS range. You may, or may not, have noticed that the main line is laid to correct 23mm centres and not the PECO 26mm. The plain track is fiNetrax.
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: RailGooner on January 11, 2019, 09:02:01 PM
Hi @keitharmes (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7308) and welcome aboard! :wave:


 :wonderfulmodelling:
It would be great if we could see more of your beautiful trackwork, perhaps in a new thread. :beers:
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: bluedepot on January 11, 2019, 09:15:41 PM
hello and welcome and very nice track and layout!


tim
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: njee20 on January 11, 2019, 09:27:08 PM
Thanks for the confirmation on track gauge. Definitely got an itch to scratch there, and would do the same as you.
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: keitharmes on January 11, 2019, 10:07:39 PM
Just in case anybody gets the wrong idea, I made the pointwork, but Paul Moss had the idea and laid all track. I just lent a little on him in various ways!
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: RailGooner on January 11, 2019, 10:48:50 PM
..
 I just lent a little on him in various ways!

 :o
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Tonye on January 12, 2019, 07:45:28 AM
 :hellosign: I was at the Kettering show where Little Salkeld was being exhibited, It was the best layout on show, . Very nice modelling . :thumbsup: 
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: PaulMoss on March 03, 2019, 09:24:32 AM
Many thanks for all of the positive comments on the layout and Keithís superb point work
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Train Waiting on March 04, 2019, 09:07:19 AM
Welcome aboard Paul.

It certainly is a lovely layout and I very much enjoyed reading about it in this month's (March 2019) Railway Modeller.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Roy L S on March 04, 2019, 10:37:15 AM
The layout is beautifully modelled and the trackwork is exquisite, a really nice job all round.

Roy
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: PaulMoss on March 04, 2019, 07:24:11 PM
Thanks Gents.

I'm pleased to report that following the article in the RM, I have been contacted by the gentlemen that purchased the main station building and then the goods yard from BR back in the day. We have had a dialogue via email and he is digging out information and pictures from the time when he took the property on and converted it into a private residence.

The desire to get it as accurate as possible will no doubt  lead to some changes on the layout when I see the info/pictures - watch this space!  :D

On that subject, the point rodding routing was based on a couple of pictures which showed very little rodding coming out of the signal box, a signalling diagram which lacked much detail together with some assumptions where necessary.

One thing that I do need to address are the hand levers on the double slip as it feeds directly onto the main line. Keith Armes contacted me via email recently and advised me that is unlikely to be prototypical, and on reflection, I'm in agreement as there is no catch point after the slip (that was one of the assumptions!). So I'm now inclined to relook at changing that and also checking the routing for the rest of rodding.

Do we have any point rodding experts in the house?
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Newportnobby on March 04, 2019, 08:21:53 PM

Do we have any point rodding experts in the house?

Several have added point rodding to their layouts but, as I'm in possession of a short memory, the latest one I recall is @rogerdB (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6299)
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: rogerdB on March 04, 2019, 09:47:05 PM
I haven't seen a copy myself but the 2mm Association have a book about rodding. http://www.2mm.org.uk/products/nms/index.html (http://www.2mm.org.uk/products/nms/index.html) and scroll down.
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on March 05, 2019, 08:17:30 AM
I haven't seen a copy myself but the 2mm Association have a book about rodding.

Kept on the top shelf, one trusts :no:
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: Izzy on March 05, 2019, 09:23:06 AM

I would think itís less to do with rodding runs per se, but more the question of whether the slip was worked by a ground frame unlocked from the box, or all worked from it direct. Given the location I donít think it would be via hand levers whatever, but my knowledge is limited at best. The point at the end would probably be hand lever, but again not sure. I think lay-by sidings, of which the S&C of course had quite a few, were probably box controlled, but this track layout is slightly different in nature and use I would think.

There is an active S&C area on RMweb, and a question there might elicit the answer, or at least probable Midland practice in such matters.

Izzy
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: rogerdB on March 05, 2019, 11:33:52 AM
I haven't seen a copy myself but the 2mm Association have a book about rodding.

Kept on the top shelf, one trusts :no:

Clearly not - you have to scroll down!
Title: Re: Little Salkeld - code 40 Finescale
Post by: PaulMoss on March 16, 2019, 06:31:09 PM
Many thanks for the feedback/advice folks, much appreciated  :thankyousign:
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