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Title: Changing Peco wheels
Post by: rhysapthomas on August 03, 2018, 10:47:16 AM
Hi

I am looking to change a wheel set on a Peco guards van with a view to adding lights and pickups.

I have compared the dimensions with a farish wheel set with metal wheels (the coach wheels sold seperatly?)from a truck

                  Axle        Back to back       Outside of wheel set          Wagon spacing between sides
Farish         15.2           7.35                    11.37                                      13.68

Peco           14.69         7.51                    11.57                                      13.02

Looking at the shape of the axle the Farish has a much longer point

My question is would be better to file down the Farish axles by .3mm per side rather than what seems the conventional idea of reaming out the peco wagon holes?  As this would make it easier to insert the Farish axle in the peco chassis
Title: Re: Changing Peco wheels
Post by: Bealman on August 03, 2018, 11:07:55 AM
A very interesting idea!

I wonder why, though.... wouldn't it be easier to just use a Farish brake van?

Anyway, there are several threads here on fitting lights to coaches and brake vans. Indeed, moderator Caz has posted on this very subject   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Changing Peco wheels
Post by: crepello on August 03, 2018, 11:27:21 AM
The Farish brakes are much better than the Peco brake van--I'd do as suggested; alternatively, Romford wheels (Parkside through Peco) are a direct replacement in Peco wagons.
Title: Re: Changing Peco wheels
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 03, 2018, 12:40:08 PM
There are kits/sets available to add a tail light powered by a button battery.  To be honest I think that's a better idea; no pickup drag, the light stays on when stationary (on DC), the battery will last for months
Title: Re: Changing Peco wheels
Post by: rhysapthomas on August 03, 2018, 01:12:01 PM
Thanks everybody

I am not worried by the electronic side i can manage that i am planning some kind of remote control to turn the light on and off, I also want train on track detection.  The peco wagon was choosen as a cost saving at 1/3 the Parish price and i intend to heavily weather it.  I was more concerned about fitting the light so if i mess that up it is only a cheaper wagon.  Also the Farish vans have different wheel sets which will be more difficult to pick up from with just metal edges.
Title: Re: Changing Peco wheels
Post by: railsquid on August 03, 2018, 02:49:37 PM
My question is would be better to file down the Farish axles by .3mm per side rather than what seems the conventional idea of reaming out the peco wagon holes?  As this would make it easier to insert the Farish axle in the peco chassis

FWIW I a while back re-wheeled a bunch of Peco, Lima (!) and older Farish wagons with current Farish wagon sets, the "reaming" was in most cases just a couple of twists of a (IIRC) 0.5mm bit in the axle hole, and usually a couple of twists back to remove the resulting spirally bit of plastic. Personally I have more confidence in getting that right than messing about with filing down the axle pinpoints, YMMV.
Title: Re: Changing Peco wheels
Post by: rhysapthomas on August 03, 2018, 02:58:47 PM

FWIW I a while back re-wheeled a bunch of Peco, Lima (!) and older Farish wagons with current Farish wagon sets, the "reaming" was in most cases just a couple of twists of a (IIRC) 0.5mm bit in the axle hole, and usually a couple of twists back to remove the resulting spirally bit of plastic. Personally I have more confidence in getting that right than messing about with filing down the axle pinpoints, YMMV.
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Yes i must say that sounds simpler what i wondered about was forcing the longer axle past the frame as it seemed very tight not the hole but the frame itself
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