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Title: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: saddler on June 14, 2018, 08:19:27 PM
Time has come to add an airbrush to the armoury, any ideas to something half decent that wont break the bank? Cheers
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: kirky on June 14, 2018, 08:57:56 PM
Iwata neo.
https://elementgames.co.uk/paints-hobby-and-scenery/AA/airbrushes/neo-for-iwata-cn-gravity-feed-airbrush?d=22&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7aaz1PfT2wIV1IXVCh3OKQh3EAQYASABEgI1F_D_BwE

I wouldn’t go cheaper especially in N gauge as the results will be disappointing all of course IMHO.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Intercity on June 14, 2018, 09:45:23 PM
I too am interested in which one, I have read through many threads and end up more confused than anything, these Iwata brushes seem to get good reviews, however I see the paint cup can be in various places depending on the model, which is preferable for our applications? Ease of use and placement of cup obstructing the object being sprayed?
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: dannyboy on June 14, 2018, 10:27:11 PM
I was in Aldi, (in Ireland), today and saw that they had one for something like €69, (about £60). I quite like the tools made for Aldi and was tempted. However, it was syphon fed, (if I read it right - the paint bottle was under the airbrush), and from having read reviews on the forum and elsewhere, a gravity fed airbrush seems to be the way to go - I am right thinking that?

Addit: Should have said the set up was complete in that it also had the compressor.
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: kirky on June 14, 2018, 11:31:04 PM
@dannyboy (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) If that price includes the compressor, its a cheap airbrush. I have four or five airbrushes and I favour side or bottom fed airbrushes. The reason being that the cup can get in your line of sight if you are doing close-up work. Obviously for longer strokes it wont matter as the object will be further away. Incidently the airbrush I recommended does have a top feed cup. In my opinion that is the neo's one disadvantage. However, a bottom or side feed probably costs twice as much.
I think for people wanting to learn airbrushing you have a couple of options; get someone to teach you, or do as I have done and watch endless videos on youtube and have a go, buy several airbrushes and make your own decision. Actually having more than one one airbrush can be a benefit if you need a couple of colours at the same time.
Hope this helps.
Kirky
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Fardap on June 15, 2018, 08:26:19 AM
I used https://www.everythingairbrush.com/ (https://www.everythingairbrush.com/) and they were very helpful in answering questions, I was actually buying one to use on my Graphic Design degree, (was a Badger 155 Anthem and mini compressor kit) once I get moved and have a railway room... I will be revisiting this on the basis of a upgrading to a good modelling airbrush along with the badger which is great for what I needed it for.
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: NeMo on June 15, 2018, 08:48:46 AM
I think for people wanting to learn airbrushing you have a couple of options; get someone to teach you, or do as I have done and watch endless videos on youtube and have a go, buy several airbrushes and make your own decision. Actually having more than one one airbrush can be a benefit if you need a couple of colours at the same time.

This is good advice.

I know it's an unpopular opinion here, but a cheap -- if decent -- airbrush is better than no airbrush. I was on a budget, bought an all-in-one kit from Amazon with a generic airbrush and compressor for around £60. Gravity fed paint holder, double action design. The standard Chinese knock-off one. Honestly, it's fine for basic work. Resprays are easily doable with some practise, and weathering is a doddle.

I'm sure the better brushes are smoother and offer more features. But a generic Chinese airbrush does a lot more than paint brushes, so worth the modest investment.

It's the practise and acquisition of skills that makes the biggest different, IMHO.

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: jrb on June 15, 2018, 09:48:10 AM
I was in the same position a couple of years ago, and bought a cheap compressor off eBay that came with 2 even cheaper airbrushes - got the lot for about £65, though I've just had a look now and the prices seem to have jumped up, and similar now is around £100 (though the compressor on it's own is around £80).

The compressor is absolutely fantastic - it's got the 3 litre tank so you don't have it chugging away constantly (though it is surprisingly very quiet) and you don't get any pulsing, either. I'd say it was well worth the cost all on it's own, and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it.

Neither of the airbrushes that came with it I've ever used more than once (one bottom feed, one side feed). I bought 2 more - a top feed one from China for about £20, and a slightly better quality 'Spraycraft' SP50K which is bottom feed.

I've used both of those quite a bit, but personally I much prefer the top-feed arrangement. I've been using it a lot more recently, and it's shortcomings are just begining to show. I'm now thinking of replacing it with an Iwata Neo.

My advice to the OP would be 3-fold:

1. Buy a cheap compressor, with a tank, off eBay/Amazon. They are well worth the money.

2. Buy a cheap dual-action airbrush from same. Maybe even 2 different style ones. Pay about £20 for it; use it, learn how it works, learn how to strip it down, clean it, and put it back together. And I mean learn how to clean it PROPERLY - it's amazing how much crap there can still be inside an airbrush that looks spotless, and it DOES affect your finish. Try different techniques, there are loads of videos on YouTube (I've recently been watching lots of tutorials about spraying 1/35th scale WWII tanks; not directly relevant to 1/148th scale UK railways, but some of the tricks & techniques are very useful!).

3. Once you've really learnt all the above, and you start to become limited by the airbrush itself rather than your lack of skill with it, THEN spend the money on a better quality one.


Don't be tempted to buy an expensive airbrush straight away; make your mistakes on a cheap on first!


JRB
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: njee20 on June 15, 2018, 09:58:49 AM
Totally echo Nemo's post, I also bought an all in one kit with two Chinese airbrushes and a compressor. It's been very useful to get some practice. I keep thinking I should get a better one, but it does what I want.

IMO the biggest factor in a good paintjob is the preparation - particularly masking. The best airbrush in the world won't help if your paint's bled between colours. An airbrush will certainly make for far more professional looking finishes though.
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: dannyboy on August 04, 2018, 11:08:48 PM
I have been into Aldi a couple of times since the reply #3 and been tempted. I called in tonight on my way to work and they still had two left - reduced by a tenner!  :). So I bought one thinking that it is not the end of the world if it and me do not get on.  :worried:. The topic in the Useful Gizmos thread about spray booths was also at the back of my mind, so, having some Amazon vouchers, I have gone and ordered the spray booth and, by using my vouchers, only had to pay just over £7 - well pleased.  :thumbsup:. The point of this post is to ask if any one can recommend a good book on airbrushing for a complete novice. I have had a bit of a search on t'interweb and there are loads  :goggleeyes:. (I will have a look at YouTube later).
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: LeftToMyOwnDevices on August 05, 2018, 12:01:45 AM
The point of this post is to ask if any one can recommend a good book on airbrushing for a complete novice. I have had a bit of a search on t'interweb and there are loads  :goggleeyes:. (I will have a look at YouTube later).


The only book I've bought, so far, is this:
http://www.crowood.com/details.asp?isbn=9781847972651 (http://www.crowood.com/details.asp?isbn=9781847972651)

I must admit that I'm very much a beginner myself...
...however, it has got me started - sort of...

Glad you are getting a Spray Booth. I haven't, but then I only use my airbrush outside, under an open-sided veranda. My first effort was without a suitable or appropriate face mask. Afterwards, I felt as if I had ever-so-slightly 'enamelled my lungs'...  :worried:

I now have what feels like a 'military' style gas mask, with filters on either side. When I used that, I felt much better afterwards - and so did my lungs...! It's what I should have used in the first place. ::)

Good luck with your efforts. :thumbsup:
It has reminded me to get out again; over the past few months, each time it's been too cold, too windy, too hot, etc. :(

Charles.
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Joker56 on August 05, 2018, 06:19:38 AM
I've got Neo by Iwata , plus proper Iwata air brushes , Neo works fine but a lot of people have had problems with nozzle either breaking or cross treading whilst being cleaned after use , you will need to take into account how much you will be using the airbrush , if it's going to be a lot of use I suggest that you purchase the best you can afford , one of mine is ten years old but if looked after properly
Can last many years with just some o ring seals needing replacement following normal wear & tear . If I was to recommend an all round sturdy workhorse it would be Iwata HP C plus . I build scale model armour 1/16th & 1/35th scale Hope this helps folks
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: kirky on August 05, 2018, 07:30:32 AM
@dannyboy (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209)
Im not sure an airbrush book is of much use at all. I have one - acnt re,member what its called but its a general modelling thing and its useless. Much better to watch someone using one. There are a lot of air brush tutorials on Youtube but in terms of airbrushing/weathering for model railways you would do well to beat the Right Track DVD - Weathering Techniques by Tim Shackleton. Unfortunately I think its out of production. You might get a copy at an exhibition. There are others but Tim goes into the airbrush a lot.
cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Garyf on August 05, 2018, 08:06:19 AM
I too recently bought an Aldi airbrush, only had a couple of plays with it on paper to get a feel for it. Get some ready mixed water based acrylic paint to try it out that way you don't have the viscosity to deal with and it is supposedly easier to clean and less fumes. There's a lot of tutorial vids on YouTube, I've been watching some by airbrush asylum which seem pretty good.

Gary
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: NeMo on August 05, 2018, 09:20:38 AM
@dannyboy ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209[/url])
Im not sure an airbrush book is of much use at all. I have one - acnt re,member what its called but its a general modelling thing and its useless. Much better to watch someone using one.


Definitely agree with this, and I'd personally spend the money on extra paint so you can just have a play. Books and videos are all very well, but ultimately you've got to get the feel of your particular airbrush. It's all about how much do you press the button down, how much do you pull it back, and how far forwards or backwards do you position the model to get the paint effect you're after. The size of the needle makes a huge difference, but there's also the optimal position to have the needle in the nozzle once you've cleaned and reassembled the airbrush after use. And all of this is before you've determined the best way to thin paints to get the consistency that works best for your brush and expectations.

Books and videos will all give tips, but at the end of the day every brush is different, so you have to try out different configurations and figure out what's best for you! Definitely worth experimenting with both acrylics and enamels to find out which you prefer and on which materials (plastic, metal and card, for example). Personally, I find enamels easier to use, though lots of people prefer acrylics. Try them both!

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: PaulCheffus on August 05, 2018, 10:37:36 AM
Hi

The best way to learn is by practicing. Get an old model and spray it, strip it and spray again until you can get a consistently good finish.

I have bought books but they only give the theory there is nothing better than actual experience. If you can find an airbrushing course then that would be worthwhile.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: longbow on August 05, 2018, 10:48:39 AM
I'd recommend the recently released Airbrushing for Railway Modellers by George Dent as a good introductory compendium.

Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Bealman on August 05, 2018, 11:01:45 AM
Me too, if printed literature is your thing, (and it is with me  :-[),

George Dent is very much an expert.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Intercity on August 05, 2018, 12:28:18 PM
I’ve been watching this thread with interest, I managed to pick up an Iwata Hi-line HP-CH and an Iwata Power jet Pro compressor, next step is to watch a bunch of videos and reserve a spot in the shed or garage and learn how to use it.
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: dannyboy on August 05, 2018, 08:11:32 PM
Many thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I spent a couple of hours watching Youtube last night - easy! Ha!  :no:. The main thing that struck me about airbrushing is technique and that of course, will only come with practice.  I will be ordering some airbrush acrylics later tonight, mainly so I do not have to worry about getting the consistency right to start with, (thanks @Garyf (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6824) ), although there are plenty of videos out there showing how to make your own thinners and cleaner.
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: longbow on August 05, 2018, 10:06:29 PM
By all means use home-made brews for cleaning - you'll need quite a lot of it - but it's best to use the paint manufacturer's product when you are thinning paint.
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: kirky on August 06, 2018, 12:52:37 PM
@dannyboy (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209)
If there is one tip that is definitely worth sharing its this: when you press the trigger make sure you are pointing the gun AWAY from the model. Only move towards the model when the paint and air is already coming out the nozzel. In other words dont fire directly at the model when you first time you press the trigger. And keep the gun moving!
If you do fire straight at the model ou usually end up with a blob of paint running down the model - ask me how I know.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: wookie on September 26, 2018, 04:49:31 PM
The only one on Aldi's site at the moment is 79.99 and looks massive! Big enough to spray cars in 1:1 scale I think!
Is the Expo one on Hattons site any good? It looks a bit wimpy....
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Lawrence on January 04, 2019, 05:16:13 PM
I've just come in from the shed before the airbrush, compressor, paint or something else within reach got sent flying out the window.  I am getting so frustrated at the moment and I hope someone can point out the obvious to me.  Last week I mixed up some regular Vallejo paint with valljo retarder and thinner, sprayed a footbridge no problem, actually quite pleased.

Popped out there for half an hour tonight to spray the roof (different colour) and it was just a nightmare. Despite following (roughly) the same mixing process, what paint that did come out just sputtered and spattered, I turned the pressure up and down but could just not get a good flow of paint.

I know I should get the vallejo air paint but the whole idea of the retarder and thinner is that I can use it in an airbrush.

I tipped the paint out, stripped the airbrush and cleaned it and tried again with no luck, so the shed is locked up and I'm waiting for my dinner in a right sulk now. HELP
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: exmouthcraig on January 04, 2019, 06:15:05 PM
I know the trauma Lawrence, I bought a few pots of that Vallejo paint thinking damn good quality and hoped using the right products id be able to at least try to get it right.

I never could, some days it would spray beautifully, others took me 2 hrs just too get it out the nozzle.

I gave up using Vallejo. I absolouty detest the stuff, Railmatch i can mix to the consistency i know fires out the gun, leave it in other railmatch pots, quick stir and away i go EVERYTIME now.

I would suggest that maybe the nozzle was dirty or something to do with the nozzle. Have you tried spraying just thinners through with no paint??

A lot on here recommended Railmatch or Phoenix paints to me when I was struggling and I must say I dont have half the issues i did with Vallejo.

Not much help but your not alone!!

Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Lawrence on January 04, 2019, 08:14:07 PM
I know the trauma Lawrence, I bought a few pots of that Vallejo paint thinking damn good quality and hoped using the right products id be able to at least try to get it right.

I never could, some days it would spray beautifully, others took me 2 hrs just too get it out the nozzle.

I gave up using Vallejo. I absolouty detest the stuff, Railmatch i can mix to the consistency i know fires out the gun, leave it in other railmatch pots, quick stir and away i go EVERYTIME now.

I would suggest that maybe the nozzle was dirty or something to do with the nozzle. Have you tried spraying just thinners through with no paint??

A lot on here recommended Railmatch or Phoenix paints to me when I was struggling and I must say I dont have half the issues i did with Vallejo.

Not much help but your not alone!!

Thanks Craig, I'll have you know my nozzle was immaculate  ;D actually I have got a bit anal about cleaning the whole airbrush after use so have confidence in that side of things. I have never used Phoenix or Railmatch but will look into what they offer, many thanks for the heads up.
*Quick edit, had a look at railmatch stuff, £8 a pot on Amazon, £3.50 elsewhere, what is the normal price for these, and is the propitiatory thinner and primer required?
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: kirky on January 04, 2019, 09:04:58 PM
I know the trauma Lawrence, I bought a few pots of that Vallejo paint thinking damn good quality and hoped using the right products id be able to at least try to get it right.

I never could, some days it would spray beautifully, others took me 2 hrs just too get it out the nozzle.

I gave up using Vallejo. I absolouty detest the stuff, Railmatch i can mix to the consistency i know fires out the gun, leave it in other railmatch pots, quick stir and away i go EVERYTIME now.

I would suggest that maybe the nozzle was dirty or something to do with the nozzle. Have you tried spraying just thinners through with no paint??

A lot on here recommended Railmatch or Phoenix paints to me when I was struggling and I must say I dont have half the issues i did with Vallejo.

Not much help but your not alone!!

Thanks Craig, I'll have you know my nozzle was immaculate  ;D actually I have got a bit anal about cleaning the whole airbrush after use so have confidence in that side of things. I have never used Phoenix or Railmatch but will look into what they offer, many thanks for the heads up.
*Quick edit, had a look at railmatch stuff, £8 a pot on Amazon, £3.50 elsewhere, what is the normal price for these, and is the propitiatory thinner and primer required?

I agree with Craig. I dont like spraying with acrylic paints which is what I guess the vallejo paint is. Phoenix paint on the other hand is enamel and can be thinned with white spirit. I can get tinlets of humbrol for about 1.50.

Are you sure your airbrush is clean? Have you tried reaming the nozel? Very very carefully obviously.

And one last question, can you spray white spirit through your air brush successfully? If you can, then it should be ok for paint.

HTH

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Lawrence on January 07, 2019, 11:23:04 AM
Watched a couple of videos online and am currently experimenting with an IPA/Water/Glycerine mixture, it seems to flow really well even at low pressure but takes an age to dry and is somewhat glossier then normal.
Thought I would mention this so @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) can be safe in the knowledge that I didn't blow the shed roof off  :D
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Newportnobby on January 07, 2019, 04:46:31 PM

Thought I would mention this so @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) can be safe in the knowledge that I didn't blow the shed roof off  :D

@Lawrence (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=16)
Phew. Thank for letting me know :sweat:
BTW - the best seat in the house has been replaced :D
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: mickster04 on January 11, 2019, 11:51:04 PM
My two cents, I use this one (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Spirit-Air-0-2mm-0-3mm-0-5mm-Portable-Gravity-Feed-Dual-Action-Airbrush-Spray-Gun/32819809035.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.7ce04c4diDIni5) as my first one for basic weathering of wagons, It works quite well imo and is incredibly cheap. I also bought a equally cheap compressor which wasn't really worth it, get a slightly better one than this one (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Spirit-Air-BT19B-Mini-Air-Compressor-Spray-Art-Paint-Kit-Portable-EU-US-Plug-Multi-purpose/32813274023.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.7ce04c4diDIni5) for sure! I also just use a 50/50 mix of acrylic and water. thoroughly mixed with a brush... a bit of trail and error sure, but it worked for me for practice and this non-detailed work.
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Lawrence on January 12, 2019, 07:41:26 AM
Thanks @mickster04 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3841) I bought one of thesehttps://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Electric-Salon-Pro-GEL-Polish-Nail-Lacquer-Varnish-Bottle-Power-Shaker-Machine/23021287996?iid=192650984888&chn=ps (https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Electric-Salon-Pro-GEL-Polish-Nail-Lacquer-Varnish-Bottle-Power-Shaker-Machine/23021287996?iid=192650984888&chn=ps) for mixing paint and it works rather well.
I think there was an problem with the shape of the nozzle on my budget airbrush, I dug out my Iwata and it works much better, I like the look of these new airbrushes that have a paint lock on the trigger to limit flow, may be worth investing in one of those.
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Lawrence on January 12, 2019, 09:35:05 AM
After some research I discovered the type of airbrush with the lockable paint trigger, it was a Harder & Steenbeck Infinity, but it is a lot of money for an airbrush even if they seem to be hugely well thought of.
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Merrylee on January 12, 2019, 10:33:27 AM
The Scottish National Scale Model Show held in Perth at the Dewars Centre is a great show to attend for inspiration and tons of advice.
There's air brush traders there who will give you loads of help and will give you a demo.
Just ask the tons of modellers there any questions you have and, like any modeller, are more than willing to help.
Loads of bargains on paints, adhesives, plasticard etc so I stock up when there.
You will see cars in high gloss showroom condition to camouflaged, weathered,battle weary military vehicles all air brushed.
27th to 28th April 2019

Ron
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Lawrence on January 12, 2019, 03:52:53 PM
The Scottish National Scale Model Show held in Perth at the Dewars Centre is a great show to attend for inspiration and tons of advice.
There's air brush traders there who will give you loads of help and will give you a demo.
Just ask the tons of modellers there any questions you have and, like any modeller, are more than willing to help.
Loads of bargains on paints, adhesives, plasticard etc so I stock up when there.
You will see cars in high gloss showroom condition to camouflaged, weathered,battle weary military vehicles all air brushed.
27th to 28th April 2019

Ron

I'm there every year Ron, best show in Scotland IMHO
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Merrylee on January 12, 2019, 08:18:36 PM
 Hi Lawrence,

Do you visit or exhibit.

Ron
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: lil chris on January 12, 2019, 09:02:15 PM
I have two airbrushes a old Badger 150 dual action, and recently I bought  Iwata Neo which is a gravity fed dual action but trigger operated, that makes it a bit easier to use for me. With Acrylics it dries really quick, I run some Media airbrush cleaner through the brush immediately after use. With the Badger I have a suction bottle with some in ready to use, I just squirt some in the cup with the Neo. I have found using enamels is easier, it does take longer to dry so does not clog up your airbrush. When I painted and weathered my Union Mills 3f I used enamels. Good luck and have fun, it is worth it for the finish you can get against using a paint brush.
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Lawrence on January 13, 2019, 04:28:33 PM
Hi Lawrence,

Do you visit or exhibit.

Ron

Just a visitor Ron  :D
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: mickster04 on January 13, 2019, 10:12:41 PM
Well with the airbrush I linked, you can limit the trigger...distance? using the screw at the back, which then means I just hold the trigger as far as it goes and only a little paint comes out anyway, reduces the amount of strain on my finger, no need for a lock? anyway, as said, it is quite budget and I will use it for weathering and maybe all over colours,


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/3841-130119220703.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=73135)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/3841-130119220831.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=73136)

I haven't finished yet as there isn't any oil staining but this was quite good for only my second go i think :D
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Railwaygun on January 14, 2019, 12:45:40 AM
Thanks @mickster04 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3841) I bought one of thesehttps://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Electric-Salon-Pro-GEL-Polish-Nail-Lacquer-Varnish-Bottle-Power-Shaker-Machine/23021287996?iid=192650984888&chn=ps (https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Electric-Salon-Pro-GEL-Polish-Nail-Lacquer-Varnish-Bottle-Power-Shaker-Machine/23021287996?iid=192650984888&chn=ps) for mixing paint and it works rather well.
I think there was an problem with the shape of the nozzle on my budget airbrush, I dug out my Iwata and it works much better, I like the look of these new airbrushes that have a paint lock on the trigger to limit flow, may be worth investing in one of those.

we had a similar device at school for agitating test-tubes. I always thought it would have been good for paint tins/bottles!

they are called Vortex mixers, and are v expensive - the gadget above looks fine!
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: kirky on January 16, 2019, 06:26:40 PM
Here's a nice cheap solution for stiring and shaking paint tins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtnwcvzNSGQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtnwcvzNSGQ)

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Airbrush for beginner?
Post by: Lawrence on January 16, 2019, 08:33:15 PM
Here's a nice cheap solution for stiring and shaking paint tins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtnwcvzNSGQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtnwcvzNSGQ)

Cheers
Kirky

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