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Title: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on May 29, 2018, 11:03:04 AM
Time for a fresh start?

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/830/42184833252_13e5e2674a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27gJief)


Takahachikawa is a fictitious station on the Chuo line on the western edge of Tokyo, where the Kanto plain hits the mountains.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Webbo on May 29, 2018, 11:05:45 AM
Looks good RS. Good progress and lots of potential.

Webbo
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 29, 2018, 11:08:54 AM
Well, not quite that dramatic. Needed to get at the air conditioning unit:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/957/40423821860_6600c8f125_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24A7DTS)

so dumped everything down the other end of the layout:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/956/42184832862_514ba87848_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27gJi7w)

as it was designed with this eventuality in mind.

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 29, 2018, 11:11:53 AM
Air conditioning attended to, reconstruction commences:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/975/42184832692_f27f3e794d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27gJi4A)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/908/40423821720_e5cc14e3bb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24A7DRs)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 29, 2018, 11:12:15 AM

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/903/42184832082_d3aa0a3127_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27gJhT5)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/981/42184831432_a9a72436d2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27gJhFS)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/961/42184830952_0d4359e86e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27gJhxA)

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 29, 2018, 11:15:55 AM
The new station even has a name (though the English version seems to have been omitted):

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/959/27360427757_1f3c75b886_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HFKkX4)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Webbo on May 29, 2018, 11:19:53 AM
Extremely rapid progress!

All seriousness aside, I'm a big fan of your posts, RS, and look forward to following this thread as it unfolds.

Webbo
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 29, 2018, 11:23:37 AM
And a teensy bit actual rural scenicky progress:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/893/28537628488_65785a9db0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KtLNHo)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/893/42410796301_fc1f4da878_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27BGqaT)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 29, 2018, 11:24:00 AM

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1730/42411120371_6949d9028d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27BJ5vi)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1741/41687717704_fec2dfaf90_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26vNs6w)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 29, 2018, 11:28:18 AM
Yep, looks great!  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Newportnobby on May 29, 2018, 12:12:31 PM
A handsome looking steamer.
Oh, and the scenics are pretty good, too :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 29, 2018, 03:20:29 PM
A handsome looking steamer.
Oh, and the scenics are pretty good, too :D

Happily that one is preserved and still in use for excursion trains. Even better, it ran both in operation and preservation in the general area the layout is set in. And it only cost about  25 quid :D

Some detailing work, mainly painting those steps a more "natural" grey so they don't stand out so much.

Meanwhile, a bit of lineside detail, mainly to make that set of white plastic steps, which once formed part of an old Tomix station, and which are glaringly visible in some pictures, blend in better.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1743/42381910992_09221ec806_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27z9nzj)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1734/40624216200_8bd9bdd8bb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24TPJ9G)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1743/40624215660_14008b7d6c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24TPHZo)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: weave on May 29, 2018, 07:03:02 PM
Hi railsquid,

All looks great to me. Looking forward to more.

Great pics. Love the one of the house(s) with the hillside behind.

Not quite sure what you mean by air conditioning unit. We're more of a 4 duvets or 4 electric fans family  :)

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 30, 2018, 12:46:13 AM

Not quite sure what you mean by air conditioning unit. We're more of a 4 duvets or 4 electric fans family  :)

It provides warmth in winter, which can get cold, but not cold enough for long enough to justify that mysterious foreign invention called "central heating", and coolness in the summer, when it can get hot and sticky for weeks at a time.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Rowlie on May 30, 2018, 07:03:34 AM
Hi Railsquid, enjoying the layout build, great pictures.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 30, 2018, 12:25:02 PM
Bostin!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: weave on May 30, 2018, 01:17:50 PM
Never heard the word. Had to look it up.

No hablo Midland English so for the benefit of others like me it means very good or excellent.  :)

Good call.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 30, 2018, 01:52:55 PM
@tutenkhamunsleeping (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1490) speaks my language.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 31, 2018, 03:12:54 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:  Looking excellent Railsquid, gotta say the steamer appearing from the tunnel looks really good, looking forward to more
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 02, 2018, 01:18:46 AM
Random scenes of construction.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/882/41601022185_81f7345c91_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26o97xc)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/885/42452023892_3e104d56cb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27FkHGq)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on June 02, 2018, 02:17:41 AM
Good one, Ian!

Just  got back to Chez Bealman - will post a similar pic of my purchase from your favourite  shop soon.

It's a shunting loco, by the way.... Kato 7014-1 DD13  :worried:

I know it runs and has lights, though.... the young guy in the shop tested it for me! His English  wasn't  bad either!  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 02, 2018, 02:58:28 PM
That's a model I don't actually own, though I have evidence to justify one in early brown livery.

Meanwhile the geoformers have been in, filling in the last major gap on the inside of the east curve.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1735/42514526971_ba344e337a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27LS4FH)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Lawrence on June 05, 2018, 09:47:31 PM
The new station even has a name (though the English version seems to have been omitted):

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/959/27360427757_1f3c75b886_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HFKkX4)

Been trying to get hold of taxis like that for, well it seems like ever  :(
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 06, 2018, 11:02:26 AM
Move to Tokyo, it's amazing what you can find here.

Apropos of nothing more than it being June 6th, here an EF66 bursting forth from a tunnel which must be on the Tokaido Main Line.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1731/41890702274_96488d2b5e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26PJNku)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 06, 2018, 11:08:29 AM
Nice, although some Brit enthusiast has nicked the plates :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 06, 2018, 12:35:22 PM
Nice, although some Brit enthusiast has nicked the plates :D

They are apparently now in the possession of a certain Mr. R. O. Undtuit.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 09, 2018, 04:49:00 PM
A bit of work on Old McTanaka's farm...

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1722/42693661131_aa33a0c004_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/283Gb2H)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1758/41975948484_3159ca73f6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26XgH4J)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 09, 2018, 04:49:37 PM
(for some reason the forum won't allow more than two external images per post, hence the split...)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1748/28820421308_f4de3e8686_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KULcaE)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1738/28819714658_46df9870d3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KUGz73)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: GreyWolf on June 09, 2018, 05:25:29 PM
Lovely details! And excellent building. Thanks for sharing.

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: RailGooner on June 09, 2018, 06:10:41 PM
 :thumbsup: The last pic especially is a doozey! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 09, 2018, 09:27:16 PM
 :hellosign: :greatpicturessign:  Ver nice detail modelling Ian, looking good
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 11, 2018, 02:17:14 AM
A bit of destruction down the other end of the layout - now you see it...

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1753/28835594978_13fc62d2fd_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KW6XLE)

Now you don't...

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1747/41990950794_8b38616240_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26YAAJf)

It proved impractical to integrate the original layout, so it Had To Go in a shower of loose ballast.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 11, 2018, 02:19:02 AM
However, parts will be recycled, such as this section of road, which will fit quite nicely in front of the farm.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1730/27843160467_3df5b990a5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JqptyP)


(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1721/42663031692_836c1083d4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27ZZbXW)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on June 11, 2018, 02:35:25 AM
Geez, Ian - I know Japan is on the edge of tectonic plates, but that's one heck of a big quake you've had there!!  :confused1:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Newportnobby on June 11, 2018, 09:26:50 AM
Whenever I see the thread title I feel I ought to be saying "Bless you"
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 11, 2018, 12:21:43 PM
Whenever I see the thread title I feel I ought to be saying "Bless you"

Just be thankful I haven't felt inspired to model Shitte Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shitte_Station).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 15, 2018, 01:08:44 PM
Random photograph, from the smartphone which is not so great for scenic shots.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1731/42764488742_b45f344119_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/289XbBq)

(Viewers are asked to excused the wrong-line running and non-prototypical combination of locomotive and coaching stock)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Innovationgame on June 15, 2018, 02:59:00 PM
You are duly excused  :wave:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on July 29, 2018, 03:11:40 PM
A momentous, possibly even historical day, as after almost ca. 4 years messing about with this stuff I've finally connected the second mainline loop and wired up two controllers so I can have two (2) trains running at the same time in different directions.



This is literally the first time I've done this and it's requiring some mental adjustment ("Why isn't that train stopping? Oh, wrong controller" kind of thing)   :headbang:

The trains featured are cheap Kato Kokuden units, which are expendable in case of unintended mishaps. The orange one is the first powered N gauge unit I bought, so kind of appropriate for this festive occasion  :beers:

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: weave on July 29, 2018, 04:57:15 PM
Hi railsquid,

おめでとう,  :claphappy:

Great stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS Think you read Japanese and hope Google translate hasn't embarrassed me  :)

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Railwaygun on July 29, 2018, 07:22:59 PM
Hi railsquid,

おめでとう,  :claphappy:

Great stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS Think you read Japanese and hope Google translate hasn't embarrassed me  :)



My duck has flat feet???
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on July 29, 2018, 07:46:11 PM
Great stuff indeed.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on July 30, 2018, 01:33:02 AM
Hi railsquid,

おめでとう,  :claphappy:

Great stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS Think you read Japanese and hope Google translate hasn't embarrassed me  :)

No worries, Google translate gets it right sometimes ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 05, 2018, 08:33:35 AM
Going by the motto "you can never have enough track", experimenting with filling in a space just right for some kind of traction depot or similar.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1834/28919349777_803dd580c6.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/L4ve9V)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1779/42047230770_f8713edd40.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/274z3NE)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 05, 2018, 08:35:01 AM
Random shot from an angle which makes things look a lot more complete than they actually are.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1836/42047232860_63f492a589.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/274z4qG)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on August 05, 2018, 08:43:45 AM
Looking really good, mate.  :thumbsup:

I must admit that I was guilty of squeezing sidings in here and there as my layout grew like topsy. I really was making it up as I went along!  ;D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 10, 2018, 09:33:49 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign: Looking good Ian, thanks for the updates
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 12, 2018, 12:44:57 PM
And today we have running on all 3 main loops:



Do please excuse any unprototypical speeds, this is all testing. If you listen carefully towards the end you can hear the Squidlet speak a single railway-related word.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 12, 2018, 07:06:40 PM
Very nice work. Some very attractive scenes. Once you got going, you've made a lot of progress.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 16, 2018, 09:53:08 AM
I am getting somewhat more quality free time at times other than late in the evening, which is helping solve the chicken-and-egg problem inherent in the interaction between track layout and scenery, which means particularly on the lower level I can't do much until I've tweaked the track into the right position. Anyway slowly coming together.

Random work-in-progress shot from "inside" the layout, cunningly hiding a lot of chaos (though careful observers may spot a bus which appears to be falling into a sinkhole, and either Annie or Clarabel on her side).

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1816/44003946302_8b3a02ae33_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a3tJam)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on August 16, 2018, 10:30:16 AM
Great pic, Ian! Spotted the bus down the sinkhole, but took a while to find Annie on her side!

Shades of Where's Wally!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 17, 2018, 03:04:55 PM
Slightly less hidden:

(http://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/annie-clarabel-shinkansen.jpg)

"This isn't Sodor any more, is it?" said Annie with a worried voice.
"My axle boxes are starting to feel all hot and bothered", complained Clarabel.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 18, 2018, 07:42:13 AM
Great pic, Ian! Spotted the bus down the sinkhole, but took a while to find Annie on her side!

Shades of Where's Wally!  :thumbsup:

Yep, got the bus and Annie.  :thumbsup: Still can’t find Wally, can I have a clue please?  :D

Great scenes,  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 19, 2018, 09:06:49 AM
Great pic, Ian! Spotted the bus down the sinkhole, but took a while to find Annie on her side!

Shades of Where's Wally!  :thumbsup:

Yep, got the bus and Annie.  :thumbsup: Still can’t find Wally, can I have a clue please?  :D

You'll have to ask George, he's the one who brought him into this  ???

Meanwhile a bit more random scenic work-in-progress, mainly to finally cover up the wallpaper formerly visible on the right-hand side.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1895/30258413098_176a30346f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/N6Qh2y)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on August 19, 2018, 09:09:35 AM
That's awesome. You have captured the landscape we went through on the train to Hakone!

Brilliant, mate. Triple  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 19, 2018, 03:05:59 PM
Really excellent scenic work. Thanks for the update and photo. The hill blends in nicely with the photographic backscene.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 20, 2018, 07:30:56 AM
Great hillside, excellent. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 21, 2018, 05:11:51 PM
Over the last couple of days I've been amusing myself by running my motley collection of Shinkansens, as they're the largest Japanese trains I own (and the double-decker ones have the largest cross-section of any trains I own) to check for various issues, particularly clearance, radius tolerance and with one unit, uncoupling issues.

This was the scene in December 2017:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4595/38427365925_866f39a7ab_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21xGi6P)

Earlier today:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1898/29238202597_16703ae366_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LxFqZk)

The comparison leads me to believe some progress has been made in the intervening months.

I will need to raise the grey tunnel portal by a couple of mm, as the white/yellow/blue Shinkansen on the right (if anyone is taking notes, an E4 series, model by Tomix) as it's prone to hitting the tunnel portal edge when running on the outer loop. Otherwise everything is satisfactory.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 21, 2018, 05:19:16 PM
This is an E2 series Shinkansen, pictured against the recently added, albeit not yet all shrubbed-up wallpaper-disguising scenery.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1857/29238395117_80df056c34_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LxGqdD)

Another perspective:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1813/43269912325_fccfb6f43b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28VBBr8)

Here much wallpaper would still be visible, but thanks to the power of modern technology I have GIMPed it into sky.

The E2 unit pictured here is also from Tomix, originating from a 1990s era starter set acquired for small change and restored to working order with my own fair tentacles.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 21, 2018, 05:30:57 PM
And this is my favourite shinkansen:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/926/43081169392_33ae50370b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28CWfJC)

A 200 series by MicroAce, which is a very nice model with "presence", but was suffering from random decoupling issues as it has a slightly fiddly coupling system unique to MicroAce which seems very sensitive to uneven track, but I think I've ironed that out (without melting too many sleepers, hah).

For anyone taking notes, the 200 series is very similar to the classic 0-series "bullet train" design, the obvious difference being the green rather than blue livery, the less obvious difference is that it was designed for the northern, often snow-bound mountainous routes and is therefore more snow-repellent.

A detail shot:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1815/44176143301_921b66d244_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aiGhk8)

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 21, 2018, 08:18:27 PM
Thanks for the update. A very good set of interesting photos.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on August 22, 2018, 06:39:11 PM
Awesome photos. And my 日本語 says the name is “high eight rivers”- correct?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on August 22, 2018, 06:53:04 PM
 Rilliant photos.
I particularly like that low level close up of the green and white shinkasen.
Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 22, 2018, 11:12:22 PM
Awesome photos. And my 日本語 says the name is “high eight rivers”- correct?

Correct, that's the literal translation; it's a made-up name taking elements from three significant stations on the Chuo Line in western Tokyo: Tachikawa, Hachiouji and Takao.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Philip. on August 23, 2018, 08:03:36 AM
A lovely layout Railsquid, and those Shinkansen locos are stunners  :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 23, 2018, 11:06:03 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:  Thanks for sharing Ian, the mountain is looking brilliant   :thumbsup:
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 30, 2018, 09:37:01 AM
Random picture of some contemporary mainline commuter action, again making things look more complete than they are ;)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1896/44359767891_60cf840dc7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2azVpwk)

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on August 30, 2018, 09:53:20 AM
Great pic! Camera on tracks in girder bridge, obviously....

Is it your phone?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 30, 2018, 10:36:46 AM
Great pic! Camera on tracks in girder bridge, obviously....

I believe the photographer was shooting with a telephoto lense from a position with a good view of the bridge ;)

Is it your phone?

Nah, my trusty compact-ish Panasonic in macro mode. Much better than a phone for these kinds of shots.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 31, 2018, 06:28:34 AM
And a little bit more scenic work...

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1880/30510624118_1779d71042_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Nu7Vzq)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 31, 2018, 07:11:39 AM
Excellent photos, and great hillside.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 31, 2018, 07:15:31 AM
Excellent photos, and great hillside.  :thumbsup:

Seconded! And blends very well with the photographic backscene, too.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Lawrence on August 31, 2018, 09:44:43 AM
And a little bit more scenic work...

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1880/30510624118_1779d71042_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Nu7Vzq)

Like this image Ian, kinda how I imagine rural Japan to be  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on August 31, 2018, 10:12:44 AM
Having recently returned from Japan, I can assure you that Railsquid has captured it perfectly.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 31, 2018, 10:47:15 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:    :greatwork:    :thumbsup:
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 02, 2018, 07:37:36 AM
A bit more work-in-progress completing the "tunnel corner", mainly filling the gap between running lines and scenery.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1864/44419344431_fbeb9ed02f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aFbKy4)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1859/29481297927_fcbd7e6c5c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LVamL8)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 02, 2018, 07:39:35 AM
And spent a bit of time provisionally repositioning buildings for that crowded urban look.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1894/44419345921_7eb80162be.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aFbKZK)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1890/44419345641_bb5f14109d.jpg)
 (https://flic.kr/p/2aFbKUV)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on September 02, 2018, 07:50:58 AM
Better and better, buddy.  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 02, 2018, 11:40:44 AM
Better and better, buddy.  :beers:

Seconded! The tunnel corner is looking better and better.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on September 03, 2018, 08:37:43 PM
 :hellosign: Excellent modelling Railsquid & superb photos
        regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 04, 2018, 09:18:16 AM
Turning away from the hills, by happy chance I found a backscene for the rear side of the layout which is more-or-less what I've been looking for, i.e. a vast swathe of Japanese outer-urban landscape which looks pretty much like that of the main station's intended location in the far west of the urban area where it sweeps up against the mountains.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1847/42656772520_eda5f1f772.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27Zr7kb)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Webbo on September 04, 2018, 09:23:03 AM
I'll tell you what, your backdrop fits perfectly with the foreground. It really does look like a city scene.

Well done!

Webbo

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on September 04, 2018, 09:54:25 AM
That's exactly the view I had from the Shinkansen on my way to meet up with you!

Triple thumbs up!

I know it's not that along ago, but your layout is already bringing back memories!  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 04, 2018, 01:35:55 PM
Couple more:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1843/30599289528_fd1c772d5e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NBXmHo)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1868/43559413625_02fdbd0f6f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29nco5R)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 04, 2018, 01:37:04 PM
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1872/43559414155_4394d02a3b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29ncoeZ)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1868/29531123907_e3c4be5e0b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LZyJhK)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on September 04, 2018, 01:41:05 PM
Love the backdrop - really does blend in well.  :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on September 05, 2018, 08:49:32 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:. The backdrops looking good  :thumbsup:
    regards Derek
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 08, 2018, 03:27:48 PM
A rather blurry ride through a very untidy layout, just in case anyone has got the impression from carefully angled photos that it's anything like complete ...

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 08, 2018, 03:32:55 PM
Bravo! :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 08, 2018, 04:54:55 PM
That reminds me (in light of recent seismic events), I must improve the lateral security of that shelf full of green Kato book cases directly above the layout, the plastic stringy stuff will probably prove ineffective in preventing them from plunging onto the layout should the wrong kind of earthquake occur.

Those IKEA shelves (or ones exactly like them) did actually withstand the 2011 earthquake very well, despite not being secured to anything other than the floor by gravity, and none of the books etc. present on them at the time actually fell off, but that was only a 5-/5+ on the Japanese scale of Earthquake Shakiness, which goes exponentially all the way up to 7.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 09, 2018, 04:46:39 AM
"Hiding gaps and other inelegant scenic transitions with fecund shrubbery part 94"

Before:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1881/30642311918_7d7593b1fb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NFKRLJ)

After:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1882/44513985512_a868761bf6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aPxP3Q)

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on September 09, 2018, 05:14:29 AM
Definitely an improvement!  :thumbsup:

A RevolutioN parcels DMU is going to look great exiting that tunnel!  ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 09, 2018, 05:58:14 AM
Definitely an improvement!  :thumbsup:

A RevolutioN parcels DMU is going to look great exiting that tunnel!  ;)

Nah, needs a grotty brick arch-lined cutting like this one: https://flic.kr/p/dP4doA as planned for further round the layout.

Somewhere I'm sure I have a similar picture of such a unit.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on September 09, 2018, 06:25:04 AM
Yep, you're right. Wonder where that is?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 09, 2018, 07:52:24 AM
Yep, you're right. Wonder where that is?

Birmingham New St., my old trainspotting haunt.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on September 09, 2018, 07:59:59 AM
I knew it was a dungeon, but didn't realise it was that bad!!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 09, 2018, 09:02:15 AM
Brilliant selection of traction though, especially when combined with a side trip to Saltley and Bescot.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7533/15555486523_bd55fdb8d0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pGzWcv)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7497/15948584496_326035b10b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qijEwL)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on September 09, 2018, 09:21:08 AM
Uber cool pics! Did you take them?  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 09, 2018, 10:01:04 AM
Uber cool pics! Did you take them?  :beers:

Yup, I have some more (including a 128, I think) which I need to scan in one day...

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 15, 2018, 05:13:42 PM
Coming back slightly more on-topic, albeit off-reservation, in today's Random Shot we see a locomotive and stock combination which would be more plausible for the Joban Line running northeast from Tokyo (past *that* nuclear power station), albeit at some point in the 1970s. Though the locomotive itself can, if on freight duties, just about be shoehorned into my intended location.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1865/29759676027_c0e8f96556_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MkL7Sx)

Anyway the main reason for the shot is to check the scenery still "lines up", as there are 4 (four) separate scenic "modules" visible in this shot, all totally free-standing and removable for ease of modification. As an added "bonus", the track is not fixed in place vertically (with e.g. nails or glue), though it is encouraged to stay in the same location horizontally by the adjacent ballast strips. It's a style of modelling which is probably illegal in the UK, or at least will give "proper modellers" apoplexy, but it works for me.  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Railwaygun on September 15, 2018, 05:44:44 PM
There is a curved point on the L side of the picture - Tomix/ Kato?. The R track look so like Kato.

Your solution is one of the best for fixing Unitrack.

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 15, 2018, 10:24:02 PM
The point is a Tomix one, I believe.  The quick way to tell (other than Kato don’t actually make curved ones >:( ) is that Tomix doesn’t have much in the way of sleepers outside the running rails.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 15, 2018, 11:30:05 PM
It's all Tomix, I abandoned Kato (except for possible use in hidden sidings).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 16, 2018, 03:38:19 PM
Now there's more backscenery in place I can shoot from more angles without worrying about a wide expanse of white-ish wallpaper/

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1861/30845726828_51a9f46df2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NZJpWm)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Milton Rail on September 16, 2018, 05:22:08 PM

[/quote]

Nah, needs a grotty brick arch-lined cutting like this one: https://flic.kr/p/dP4doA as planned for further round the layout.

Somewhere I'm sure I have a similar picture of such a unit.
[/quote]

Great shot, don't think I have encountered one of these before!  It has a very sad "face" ... the handrails almost make it look like it has bags under it's eyes!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Railwaygun on September 16, 2018, 11:07:24 PM



Nah, needs a grotty brick arch-lined cutting like this one: https://flic.kr/p/dP4doA (https://flic.kr/p/dP4doA) as planned for further round the layout.

Somewhere I'm sure I have a similar picture of such a unit.
[/quote]

Great shot, don't think I have encountered one of these before!  It has a very sad "face" ... the handrails almost make it look like it has bags under it's eyes!
[/quote]

Revolution Trains are proposing a model of this parcels DMU

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=42503.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=42503.0)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 17, 2018, 03:35:47 PM
We interrupt this Revolution Trains commercial to bring you hot footage from the layout in question ;)



(albeit in German mode, that little loco is one of my favourites, simply because despite dating from the 1970s and being a very short-wheelbase Bo-Bo, it is surprisingly reliable and consistent even over pointwork and does sterling service as a "Thunderbird" to nudge less cooperative units into life).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: kirky on September 17, 2018, 05:23:33 PM
@railsquid (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832)
Just a quick question which you've probably metioned elsewhere but I couldnt find the answer quickly; Do you run your stock using DCC?
Just wondering if the German Fleischmann is easily chipped?

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 17, 2018, 10:46:04 PM
@railsquid ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832[/url])
Just a quick question which you've probably metioned elsewhere but I couldnt find the answer quickly; Do you run your stock using DCC?
Just wondering if the German Fleischmann is easily chipped?


No DCC due to my addiction to cheap Japanese and 2nd hand German stock. A user report on this page (http://www.spurweite-n.de/ncontent/ndb/ndb-artdetails.asp?ID=1906&ToShow=0&ShowState=2#reports) implies it is fairly simple to add DCC if you know what you're doing.

"Nach dem Digitalumbau (für geübte recht einfach) sehr gute Fahreigenschaften,"

Don't ask me where the chip would go, possibly in the cab.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: grumbeast on September 26, 2018, 10:58:12 PM
This is all looking awesome, catching up on threads, love the backscenes!

The lack of a curved kato switch is a right PIA but I can't afford to make the switch to Tomix (not to mention that I'd have to import it)

Graham
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 28, 2018, 03:49:38 PM
Just a train (JNR era 115 series if anyone's taking notes) running over some points:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1943/44920871012_edf505738a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2brvcW5)

but, ha, I finally wired up a DPDT switch so I can control the lower loop from one of the upper loop controllers, and thereby run trains up and down the incline. Now I can set a train off from the lower-level station and about 2 minutes later it will arrive at the upper level, having made two circuits of the layout without running over the same section of track more than once.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on September 28, 2018, 10:05:45 PM
Just a train (JNR era 115 series if anyone's taking notes) running over some points:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1943/44920871012_edf505738a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2brvcW5)

but, ha, I finally wired up a DPDT switch so I can control the lower loop from one of the upper loop controllers, and thereby run trains up and down the incline. Now I can set a train off from the lower-level station and about 2 minutes later it will arrive at the upper level, having made two circuits of the layout without running over the same section of track more than once.
:hellosign: Nice train Ian, would love to see a video of your inclines
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 28, 2018, 11:27:14 PM
:hellosign: Nice train Ian, would love to see a video of your inclines

The sole incline is visible at the start and end of the video I posted a couple of pages back:



The train stops at the end where it does because at the time I made the video, electrically it could proceed no further.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on September 29, 2018, 03:52:28 PM
 :hellosign: Many thanks Ian, looking good
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Drakken on October 14, 2018, 02:35:28 PM
I just had a read through your layout and think I might have to do a Japanese inspired layout. I apologise for the local lack of knowledge but the trains have a charm to them. The scenery you have I've really enjoyed the photo's you've uploaded. Might have ago at a diorama first but subscribed to continue enjoying your build  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 15, 2018, 03:16:38 PM
Time passes... Finally got round to converting a bare swathe of plaster cloth into something vaguely resembling bare rock, and added a rock fall protection fence for good measure.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4840/30954142557_c261233c0b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Paj5a4)

More vegetation needs to be applied.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on November 15, 2018, 03:26:25 PM
Excellent work.
Looks really good to me.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on November 15, 2018, 08:48:51 PM
Excellent work.
Looks really good to me.

:hellosign:  Seconded
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 17, 2018, 07:43:47 PM
Excellent work.
Looks really good to me.

:hellosign:  Seconded
    regards Derek.

Thirded!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 25, 2018, 06:11:47 AM
So, finally got round to doing something which has been annoying me for some time, namely replacing this section of elevated track:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1742/42116685924_fd54226c76_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27aH2pj)

which represents very modern "concrete slab" style construction (I was originally planning to use these for high-level Shinkansen track) with something more traditional:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4901/44221909020_4a73b0d268_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2anJQTf)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 25, 2018, 06:13:52 AM
which blends in much better with the adjacent track section:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4876/44221909070_e82618ce8f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2anJQU7)

At some point in the far and distant future I shall get round to painting/weathering the plasticky bits but they will do for now.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on November 25, 2018, 06:26:11 AM
At first I couldn't see a lot of difference, Ian!  :-[
However on a closer look I can see ballasted "old" style track and different concrete panels.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 25, 2018, 06:41:34 AM
At first I couldn't see a lot of difference, Ian!  :-[
However on a closer look I can see ballasted "old" style track and different concrete panels.  :thumbsup:

Yup, the concrete slab track just looks wrong for anything other than Shinkansens and very modern trains, and plain silly if one is running a kettle on them.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on November 25, 2018, 06:46:16 AM
So where are you going to run your Shinkansens?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 25, 2018, 06:51:29 AM
So where are you going to run your Shinkansens?

They can run on this track just fine, not all Shinkansen track is concrete slab type.

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on November 25, 2018, 07:01:32 AM
All cool then. Don't want to break prototype protocol  ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: bill937ca on November 25, 2018, 07:27:44 AM
At first I couldn't see a lot of difference, Ian!  :-[
However on a closer look I can see ballasted "old" style track and different concrete panels.  :thumbsup:

The main thing is just to have fun and along the way run some trains.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2018, 07:46:45 AM
Yes, that looks better.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 25, 2018, 02:05:38 PM
All cool then. Don't want to break prototype protocol  ;)

More Prototypical:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4853/46042655871_742d9e5a06_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d9CDuk)

Less prototypical:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4819/45318263874_82e3ba4607_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2c3BWZ9)

;)

At first I couldn't see a lot of difference, Ian!  :-[
However on a closer look I can see ballasted "old" style track and different concrete panels.  :thumbsup:

The main thing is just to have fun and along the way run some trains.

Indeed, and that section of concrete slab track was spoiling the fun a little. Due to the way the layout is positioned, it stood out every time I look at the layout. Just one of those itches which need scratching  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on November 25, 2018, 09:46:32 PM
Aha. Point well made!  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 26, 2018, 11:29:33 AM
which blends in much better with the adjacent track section:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4876/44221909070_e82618ce8f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2anJQU7)

At some point in the far and distant future I shall get round to painting/weathering the plasticky bits but they will do for now.

Found a picture of what this was like before:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1845/30308485718_2efa4c1d6b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NbfUSA)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 28, 2018, 08:26:57 AM
Today it's ca. 1986 on the Chuo Line, with a 115 series local train bound for Takahachikawa, while an "Azusa" express heads in the general direction of Matsumoto.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4887/44268366390_7bd3ca8789_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2arQX3o)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4884/45172881385_c4cfde9652_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bPLPQv)

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on November 28, 2018, 08:46:37 AM
Cool pics!  :thumbsup:

This curve can become a landmark photo spot for the forum!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on November 28, 2018, 09:33:34 AM
You're welcome, buddy.

I love your info and pics.  :beers:

George






Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: grumbeast on November 28, 2018, 04:53:02 PM
Love the Azusa!  I'm late but I'll chime in, yes, the new track looks better, its a great transition from the curve now

Graham
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 29, 2018, 03:55:02 AM
Cool pics!  :thumbsup:

This curve can become a landmark photo spot for the forum!

Dunno about that, however I was originally intending to hide the entire end curve in tunnels, at some point it occurred to me that it would not only be practical to set the tunnel entrances a bit further back, but it would also make a nice scenic location to photograph trains.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on November 29, 2018, 04:04:21 AM
Good decision.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Train Waiting on November 29, 2018, 09:03:59 AM
Thank you for these excellent photographs.

Very inspirational!

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 30, 2018, 03:54:12 AM
So, finally got one of the hills all "shrubbed-up", using mainly Heki "Flor" which is a bit messy to work with, but is a quick and fairly easy way of covering largish swathes of scenery in a way which looks reasonably typical for Japan. Moreover it is good at disguising gaps in the scenery; everything visible in this picture (there are 8 separate scenic "blocks") is removable for various practical reasons.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4901/45199450255_e29a525c2e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bS7ZQt)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 30, 2018, 04:02:53 AM
And just because...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4835/32239800018_a1cd6eac5c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/R7Vpk1)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4808/32239800278_fa27ed9852_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/R7Vppu)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on November 30, 2018, 04:57:23 AM
You're bringing back memories of my trip - that really does look like Japan!  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Train Waiting on November 30, 2018, 09:06:18 AM
So, finally got one of the hills all "shrubbed-up", using mainly Heki "Flor" which is a bit messy to work with, but is a quick and fairly easy way of covering largish swathes of scenery in a way which looks reasonably typical for Japan. Moreover it is good at disguising gaps in the scenery; everything visible in this picture (there are 8 separate scenic "blocks") is removable for various practical reasons.

This is excellent; absolutely excellent.  Your removable scenery is vastly better than mine (simply no comparison!), but it proves the soundness of the concept.  I expect that for track cleaning and suchlike, the very attractive scene breaks apart and is then re-assembled.

Thank you very much for this.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 30, 2018, 09:29:57 AM
So, finally got one of the hills all "shrubbed-up", using mainly Heki "Flor" which is a bit messy to work with, but is a quick and fairly easy way of covering largish swathes of scenery in a way which looks reasonably typical for Japan. Moreover it is good at disguising gaps in the scenery; everything visible in this picture (there are 8 separate scenic "blocks") is removable for various practical reasons.

This is excellent; absolutely excellent.  Your removable scenery is vastly better than mine (simply no comparison!), but it proves the soundness of the concept.  I expect that for track cleaning and suchlike, the very attractive scene breaks apart and is then re-assembled.

It does indeed, here's an older shot with the main hill removed:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1733/28830601798_6140fb5908_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KVEntm)

Check out the first few pictures in this album (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/sets/72157691220217880) for an impression of how it all fits together.

I am literally making this up as I go along. Though it helps that this is right next to my desk (I work from home mainly) so I have the opportunity to ponder at comparative leisure how it all should fit together.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 01, 2018, 03:12:12 PM
And in today's episode of "Shrub all the Things" we see the hilly end of the layout from an atypical viewing angle which reveals an implausible number of tunnel portals.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4842/46080114282_3da37414ba_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dcWCz1)

Also if you look carefully you can see where the glue is still drying.

Checking my photographs, these things have been under construction for a whole year  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 01, 2018, 03:38:37 PM
Meanwhile, down on the farm...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4913/45219459655_a23069c6a6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bTTxW8)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 01, 2018, 07:32:55 PM
Excellent, highly realistic scenic work.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 02, 2018, 01:54:43 PM
Today it's 2013 or early 2014, and the JNR-era 115 series EMU (similar to the unit shown previously) is on the cusp of retirement (having been repainted into the "traditional" blue and cream "Yokosuka" livery), passing a modern (post-2000) EF210 Bo-Bo-Bo DC locomotive pulling a container train. The first two containers appear to contain chilled produce from inland agricultural regions, while the generic JRF containers behind might contain printers from Epson's factory in the castle city of Matsumoto.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4820/31205281517_dae22c4e23_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Pxve28)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Train Waiting on December 02, 2018, 08:20:26 PM

Check out the first few pictures in this album (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/sets/72157691220217880) for an impression of how it all fits together.

I have now had a very good look at this and it very clever indeed.  That picture stuck on the wall ending up as part of the scene was a touch of brilliance!

Thanks again and all good wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 04, 2018, 02:53:21 PM
We now turn our attention to the lower loop, which appears to be missing a tunnel portal, though a new stone embankment is sellotaped in place waiting for the glue to dry.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4823/46125490832_9e8df3a3b5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dgXcrj)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4886/45263742445_741c37419a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bXNvEv)

It's possible the landscapers will be called in to shift the green embankment on the left a few mm further away from the trains.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 05, 2018, 02:40:51 PM
Still no tunnel portal, but fencing has appeared. Also, I took the opportunity to straighten out the rear shed-like building, which is a Tomytec snap-together kit, but the parts were somewhat warped.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4809/31251048447_b5b94f0982_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PBxMW8)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4846/45277908715_ea8e530e03_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bZ47Nx)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4900/31251048607_bfc41c57b5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PBxMYT)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 05, 2018, 05:49:12 PM
Really excellent scenic work. I particularly like the foliage at the bottom of the last photo. Can you share the details, please, Ian.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 06, 2018, 12:10:55 AM
Really excellent scenic work. I particularly like the foliage at the bottom of the last photo. Can you share the details, please, Ian.

The bushes were purchased ready to plonk from this small Japanese manufacturer of scenic items: https://wakiyaku.jp/SHOP/38699/67519/list.html and the "grass" is an ad-hoc mixture of normal green and light green Kato scatter, which works quite well as generic ground cover.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 06, 2018, 02:22:22 AM
We now turn our attention to the lower loop, which appears to be missing a tunnel portal, though a new stone embankment is sellotaped in place waiting for the glue to dry.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4823/46125490832_9e8df3a3b5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dgXcrj)

It's possible the landscapers will be called in to shift the green embankment on the left a few mm further away from the trains.

And it's off to the landscape workshop for a bit of cut-and-shut:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4869/32325372718_fe25782205_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RftZ7o)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 06, 2018, 02:24:51 AM
(splitting posts because the forum software doesn't like too many Flickr links in one post)

That looks much better:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4883/32325372758_7a8e76f236_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RftZ85)

Though I'll have to wait for the glue to dry before putting it back in place:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4858/45284944665_a39bcacfa4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bZFbm2)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 06, 2018, 04:19:54 AM
Also I didn't like the way the stone embankment comes close to the track at this end:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4809/31251048447_b5b94f0982_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PBxMW8)

so surgically modified:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4854/46147971362_92eddb5ebd_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2diWq7E)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 06, 2018, 04:44:28 AM
If you hadn't done that, I can't see how that loco would have cleared it, Ian.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 06, 2018, 05:24:00 AM
If you hadn't done that, I can't see how that loco would have cleared it, Ian.

Oh, clearance wasn't an issue, the embankment slopes away from the track and there was certainly enough space at body level, even with my trust Shinkansen wide-bodied clearance checker carriage, but it looked plain odd. Not that it's visible from normal viewing angles anyway, but you never know who might be out and about on the layout with a compact camera.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 06, 2018, 03:12:02 PM
Clearance problems almost solved (though I should relocate that small tree a little to the right); that's not snow on the ground, but styrene sheet which will be decorated in a more linesidey kind of way.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4817/31265111397_d4b46cb6b6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PCMSmM)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 09, 2018, 03:03:03 PM
Tunnel now fixed in place and side ballast has appeared:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4842/31290937927_db67d3b4a3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PF5eFM)

though due to the shuffling of various interconnected elements I've ended up with a wider gap on the right than I thought, so will have to redo that bit.

Olde-style catenary mast by Tomytec.

FWIW, in this shot we see products from:

 - Tomytec (catenary mast, train, tunnel portals, buildings, brown fencing)
 - Tomix (track)
 - Greenmax (both styles of embankment facing)
 - Kato (grey fence on the right in the foreground; scatter; some hillside shrubbery)
 - Heki (rest of the hillside shrubbery)
 - Tamiya (the white 3mm foamboard used on the linesides)
 - Wakiyaku (the bright green small tree)
 - Morin (ballast)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 14, 2018, 08:02:34 PM
 :hellosign:. Steady progress & looking good Ian, nice work
        regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 15, 2018, 01:09:22 AM
Some minor progress, mainly repositioning the concrete hillside "cladding"

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1973/31321212867_1188713eff_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PHKpnv)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 16, 2018, 11:56:28 AM
Now to work on this "problem" area, where 6 separate scenic blocks meet.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4803/32465053308_f4fcc1219f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RsPThq)

A section of disposable chopstick is handily shaped to fill one gap, while an outsized wooden javelin appears to have impaled itself in the cutting side.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4846/45613734004_7a000c4abc_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cuJiXJ)

I have a cunning plan to hide the tunnel portal visible on the upper left behind some trees so it doesn't intrude on shots from this angle.

Observant observers will also note the visibility of a lighter strip inside the lower tunnel portal at the top; that is actually the side of piece of plywood which carries the line which goes through the upper portal through its tunnel. I will need to paint that a darker colour.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Train Waiting on December 16, 2018, 10:20:30 PM
Great stuff!

Very clever; very clever indeed.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 18, 2018, 02:24:12 PM
Now to work on this "problem" area, where 6 separate scenic blocks meet.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4803/32465053308_f4fcc1219f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RsPThq)


Some of the gap filled:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4913/46317082352_06f5c2a7fa_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dyT9Vo)

The ocularly-blessed may just be able to spot the relocated toothpick.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 18, 2018, 02:31:26 PM
Meanwhile, by happenstance some bits of greenery have fallen into the small gap between the ballast side strips and the track itself, looking not atypical for such a line while making the gap less obvious, which I shall exploit in future work.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4846/32496185168_2d6cbdfc76_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RvzrGC)

One day I might be able to fix some track sections permanently in place, and ballast it all up "properly", but for now it's much more convenient to be able to remove bits of scenery to work on.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 19, 2018, 02:01:12 PM
And more bits in place.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4823/46330068162_bf76d68a29_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dA2H9E)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4857/44564125180_7245bc913f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aTYMPS)

Basically waiting for the glue to dry, then to do some minor landscaping/gap filling with modelling clay, paint it (a blotchy green/brown sprinkled with a mixed medium/light scatter serves well as a basic scenic "undercoat"0, then smother it in shrubbery, which is also good for hiding remaining gaps and other sins.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 19, 2018, 03:06:08 PM
A quick trip down memory lane to this time last year:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4560/39058058702_ebfcb16e87_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22vqL6d)

Definite signs of progress  :beers:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4841/32509780008_74d9cd0c2a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RwM7Yq)

The blob of scenery in the first photo was my first ever (at least in this century) attempt at some scenery as a test, and it proved quite handy as a moveable "mockup" for a while but is now, after some surgery, an official part of the current scenery (in roughly the same position).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 19, 2018, 03:38:41 PM
Q: What has two decks and a long pointy nose?

A: An E4 series Shinkansen, AFAIK still (when two 8-car units are coupled together) the highest-capacity passenger train (in terms of available seats) in the world. Though scheduled for retirement in 2019, because it will be almost 20 years old, which in Shinkansen years is about 100.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4914/44565216850_5413f053b4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aU5okL)

Though not entirely prototypical for the location, operational needs may require that it fits through the tunnel without the telltale "thock" of scenery contact.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Milton Rail on December 19, 2018, 08:07:00 PM
Lovely stuff, like the 1 year retrospective, encouraged to do something similar :)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 21, 2018, 02:45:05 AM
Almost there, still need to clear off excess modelling clay smears and tidy up a bit.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4906/46400638361_09474b1cb8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dGgpde)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4828/46400638391_a6e3b2a98c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dGgpdK)

Up above it looks like this:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4841/46400638561_7f145b7c07_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dGgpgF)

Ridiculous concentration of tunnel portals, but they're not really visible from normal viewing angles, and careful photographic composition will make them into individual scenes (as mentioned before, I see the layout as a collection of scenes which just happen to be linked by some loops of track).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 21, 2018, 02:55:25 AM
Top stuff Ian!  :beers:

Bealette is flying to Sapporo today, by the way, en route home on January 4.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 21, 2018, 06:36:20 AM
Q: What has two decks and a long pointy nose?

A: An E4 series Shinkansen, AFAIK still (when two 8-car units are coupled together) the highest-capacity passenger train (in terms of available seats) in the world. Though scheduled for retirement in 2019, because it will be almost 20 years old, which in Shinkansen years is about 100.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4914/44565216850_5413f053b4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aU5okL)

Though not entirely prototypical for the location, operational needs may require that it fits through the tunnel without the telltale "thock" of scenery contact.

For comparison and an idea of the size, here's an E1 at the JR museum in Omiya; different (earlier) class (now all retired), same basic body shape, though nose is much less pointy.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4835/46402902371_745fed9fd5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dGt1dT)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 21, 2018, 01:53:05 PM
First train to run under its own power through the cutting:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4903/32534513438_c85eb7e615_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RyXTmS)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4865/45683184234_31446ed43f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cASg6u)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 21, 2018, 01:57:29 PM
Very realistic. Thanks for the photos.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 22, 2018, 05:43:22 AM
So, my thoughts move upwards a little to the station "throat" area, specifically the grey-painted section in front of the tunnel mouths:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4869/46363867132_ff8d358a27_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dD1Wpw)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4870/45502125915_c42da24138_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cjShLk)

This basically needs "ballasting-up", primarily by adding 3mm strips of styreen sheet between the tracks; these will be painted grey, then covered in ballast material and miscellaneous lineside scenic items. Lineside fencing and possibly a bit of shrubbery and/or signage will cover the abrupt gap between ground and backscene  It occurred to me I can fix the track in place here, which will make things easier. We shall see how it goes, as due to presence of Squidlet I won't have time before 9pm or so.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 22, 2018, 06:49:20 AM
I'd love to know how you're posting photos because I can't upload anything into my galleries.

Apart from that, looking good!  :thumbsup:

Looking forward to the scenic treatment  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 22, 2018, 07:26:52 AM
I'd love to know how you're posting photos because I can't upload anything into my galleries.

Embedded from Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/albums/72157691220217880)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Milton Rail on December 22, 2018, 07:53:49 AM
Great photos Ian & good news about the first running service.  THe scenery around the tunnel mouths looks great, the backscene ties in really well.

I might need to look at the Flickr option soon as my gallery space is running out!  I have not had any problems using the NGF gallery though since the server move
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 22, 2018, 02:04:04 PM
I've gone with Flickr because it's a useful place to store and manage photos for public display, and as I post on several rail-related forums it saves the hassle of remembering the vagaries of different forum software.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7897/46418535721_55d269a30c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dHR8tp)

So, 3mm styrene sheet shaped and put in place temporarily (well most of it), while I consider the next steps. Fortuitously I found some bits from an earlier project which had already been cut to shape for some of the curves, which helped. Methinks I'll paint the unpainted bits grey, add the ballast and other bits in the comfort of my own workbench before sticking them in place. Once finished I don't imagine I'll need to do much more on that particular block, which is in the far corner and the most problematic to remove to work on.

And yes, the right-hand tunnel portal clearance is *very* tight, I might shave a bit off the tunnel mouth, but it's an unavoidable compromise. Though larger stock won't really need to use that route, which for added fun is an S-curve leading to a curved point cunningly hidden inside the tunnel, which has proved a lot less problematic than it sounds.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on December 22, 2018, 02:10:19 PM
Hopefully no one leans out of the window as trains negotiate that tight tunnel mouth.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 22, 2018, 02:21:39 PM
Hopefully no one leans out of the window as trains negotiate that tight tunnel mouth.

With shorter "conventional" stock of the type more likely to have openable windows, the clearance is somewhat more generous, though maybe I should add a little basket to catch the heads in ;)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7922/45695983964_e97e7a4e22_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cBZS1u)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 22, 2018, 02:54:04 PM
In case of interest, this is the prototypical tunnel clearance for those double-decker Shinkansens:

yzsum3_xR04
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Innovationgame on December 22, 2018, 05:12:19 PM
In case of interest, this is the prototypical tunnel clearance for those double-decker Shinkansens:
The YouTube link doesn't work.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Innovationgame on December 22, 2018, 06:41:20 PM
In case of interest, this is the prototypical tunnel clearance for those double-decker Shinkansens:
I've got it to work.  You need to add:
'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=')  to the front of the link

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2018, 12:18:21 AM
In case of interest, this is the prototypical tunnel clearance for those double-decker Shinkansens:

I've got it to work.  You need to add:
'[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v='[/url] ([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v='[/url])  to the front of the link


Aha, the [ youtube ] tag is generating an http:// rather than https:// link, meaning the content may not be shown depending on your browser settings (it worked for me on the computer I posted from).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Innovationgame on December 23, 2018, 07:04:24 AM
I always post the whole phrase
Code: [Select]
[youtube][url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzsum3_xR04][/url][/youtube]
I have pasted it in a code window so that it doesn't display the video here, but you won't need to do that when you add the video.  I keep a copy of
Code: [Select]
[youtube][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[/url][/youtube] in a Word file.  I copy it and edit the hyperlink to add the 11 character Youtube code after the equals sign.  I always write my posts in a Word file first and then copy and paste them into the post.  In the long run, it saves a lot of hastle and avoids having to retype everything if you lose it.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 23, 2018, 07:16:41 AM
Yeah, I should get into the habit of doing that. I've lost many a long post!

Sometimes it's probably just as well.... spare members all my waffle  :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2018, 07:30:52 AM
Indeed, since the days of Netscape Navigator I write anything of importance (or at least more than a couple of sentences) in a reliable text editor first, before entrusting it to a web browser. Then mark the entire text and copy it before submission, just to be on the safe side.

I have alerted Tank to the
Code: [Select]
[youtube] tag issue, as it will probably affect historical posts containing just the video code.

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2018, 07:53:08 AM
Meanwhile, back on the layout - looking better already:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7869/31488846407_8064505f98_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PYyyYX)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7871/31488846537_a3e6b25b16_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PYyz2c)

I have been particularly keen to put some sort of fence or wall between the edge of the layout and the backscene so the transition isn't quite as obvious.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 23, 2018, 07:55:27 AM
Works quite well, I reckon.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Milton Rail on December 23, 2018, 08:03:07 AM
Cracking video, that opening few seconds, where the rumble builds up to a crescendo .... goosebumps :)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 23, 2018, 08:16:36 AM
Yes, the speed is awesome. After being to Japan in May (and meeting Railsquid for a couple of beers), I travelled many times on these trains.

When you are on them, they are so smooth you almost don't notice the speed. But on a platform when a through one comes hurtling through, you can feel the shockwave big time.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2018, 01:06:52 PM
Definitely an impressive sight; when approaching from a distance they don't seem all that fast but suddenly they're in the station and zhrump zhrump zhrump it's gone by too fast for your eyes to focus, then it's receding into the distance.

Meanwhile, still-detachable scenery is detached for improvements:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7850/46380811772_3407d86255_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dEvMsu)

Not something I'd care to work on at the back of a 90cm deep layout  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2018, 01:52:20 PM
And here it is, back in place:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4883/31492334367_328b47c3fc_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PYSrQc)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
Oh yes, while I had the foliage and the glue out, time to fill in the gap between ballast and cutting side down below (in previous pictures there was a shiny brown strip to the left of the ballast):

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7800/31492907347_c1b1d00689_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PYVoaa)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2018, 03:02:22 PM
"Weehee!" puffed Thomas. "I found another tunnel! The Fat Mildly Overweight Controller on this layout must love tunnels!"

Thomas steamed away happily, blissfully unaware of the bizarre twighlight zone he was about to enter.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4804/45520021145_bb5df8514f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cms1oM)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Milton Rail on December 23, 2018, 03:32:08 PM
 :laughabovepost:

love it
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2018, 03:33:16 PM
And two final shots for tonight, featuring my trusty Kato DE10 Bo-Co, the first Kato locomotive I ever bought, presumably on permanent way duty.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7877/45520319495_c6fffdc603_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cmtx5K)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4908/45520319425_16df606d7a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cmtx4x)

The tunnel portal here obviously needs some work - I needed to cut one side and turn it through 90 degrees for clearance purposes - but that can wait until later (the whole section is designed to lift off). In an ideal world there would be a centimetre or two of clearance between tunnel portal and backscene, but if you look to the left of the loco, there's an impression that the ground slopes off quite steeply down towards the buildings below, which is how I imagine this spot anyway. Area to the right will need to have some miscellaneous lineside bits and random fecund shubbery added.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 24, 2018, 02:35:47 PM
Area to the right will need to have some miscellaneous lineside bits and random fecund shubbery added.

Addition of miscellaneous lineside bits in progress:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7910/45723093014_9e7e85065f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cEoNzU)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 24, 2018, 03:09:20 PM
And two final shots for tonight, featuring my trusty Kato DE10 Bo-Co, the first Kato locomotive I ever bought, presumably on permanent way duty.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7877/45520319495_c6fffdc603_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cmtx5K)

Nope, it was running light loco in the late afternoon sun.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4914/45533827245_9a4f4f7bc6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cnELsZ)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Innovationgame on December 24, 2018, 03:22:09 PM
Thanks for showing us some nice clips!  :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 24, 2018, 03:57:22 PM
Thanks for showing us some nice clips!  :D

You nailed it ;).

Wait, I nailed it, using some Kato track pins I bought early in the N gauge addiction in the naive assumption I'd be nailing some track down, but they do come in handy for keeping bits of scenery in place while the glue dries.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 25, 2018, 12:18:57 AM
Cable trunking and Random Lineside Box provisionally added:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7832/45728755904_ddda4cb208_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cETPXW)

Need to find some more odd bits like railings.

Train is a JNR 101 series from the late 1950s running a Chuo Line commuter express.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 25, 2018, 06:26:38 AM
A bit safer now for any signalling/electrical engineers who need to work on that box while trains are running.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7855/44638014110_41b5dd08b7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2b1vuqW)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 25, 2018, 01:57:40 PM
A bit safer now for any signalling/electrical engineers who need to work on that box while trains are running.

Having posted that, I received a terse text message from the Chief Engineer pointing out in no uncertain terms that the layout does not, in fact, have any signals, so a quick trip down to the local Signals'R'Us produced this:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4856/44641833880_ff96cf27f1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2b1R4V3)

but I then got a phone call from the Safety Elves pointing out that the lack of fencing means lineside workers could slip and disappear for ever into the two-dimensional world of the backscene, which is in contravention of regulations, apparently.

No pleasing these people, eh?

Anyway I trust all those living where it's a holiday are enjoying suitably festive festivities.  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 25, 2018, 02:52:47 PM
Apparently this is more acceptable:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4878/46459481051_d09a2c212c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dMsZ6n)

Unfortunately the additional costs involved in setting up signalling meant I had to let go the team who polish the rails to a nice dull bronze colour, and they have rusted quickly in the Japanese climate.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 25, 2018, 08:03:22 PM
A bit safer now for any signalling/electrical engineers who need to work on that box while trains are running.

Having posted that, I received a terse text message from the Chief Engineer pointing out in no uncertain terms that the layout does not, in fact, have any signals, so a quick trip down to the local Signals'R'Us produced this:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4856/44641833880_ff96cf27f1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2b1R4V3)

but I then got a phone call from the Safety Elves pointing out that the lack of fencing means lineside workers could slip and disappear for ever into the two-dimensional world of the backscene, which is in contravention of regulations, apparently.

No pleasing these people, eh?

Anyway I trust all those living where it's a holiday are enjoying suitably festive festivities.  :beers:

Yeah, we had a video call from Bealette on Christmas morning from a snowy Sapporo before she went skiing.

Everyone was going to work! Which was great for her, because the skifield wasn't crowded.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 26, 2018, 02:50:47 PM
It might have been more crowded on the 24th, as that was a holiday - the Emperor's Birthday, which is actually on the 23rd, but that was a Sunday so the public holiday was commuted to Monday for the edification of the populace. However for my sins (whatever they are) I was at work on both the 24th and 25th, which does have the advantage of keeping me supplied with items of N gauge and even allowed some time for layout tweaking.

Meanwhile more rust has appeared:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7878/46421656932_ae62d75f9f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dJ88io)

thanks to this handy set of Tomix pens (https://www.tomytec.co.jp/tomix/products/n/8008.html) which make it quite an easy job.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 26, 2018, 03:03:09 PM
The departing Narita Express (class E259), presumed heading out to the popular resort destination Kawaguchiko on the (private) Fujikyu Line, is permitted to run at a maximum of 85km/h through the tunnel.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4907/46472687821_d5fc5d1250_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dNCF1i)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 26, 2018, 05:34:28 PM
Those pens look very good. I destroyed a very good small fine paintbrush painting my rail sides.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 26, 2018, 07:56:44 PM
Yes, those pens are a great idea. So much easier than painting!

Travelled on that train to the airport the day after our meet, Ian. While the prototype is very impressive - smooth, fast and comfortable, with plenty of room for luggage, the front of it struck me as odd-looking.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 28, 2018, 08:18:19 PM
 :hellosign:  Many thanks Ian for the updates with  :greatpicturessign: a superb video also. Your layout is looking good, excellent modelling
      regards Derek
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 29, 2018, 11:11:03 AM
I have been travelling the past couple of days, which has somewhat frustrated layout development, but by coincidence from a train window I spotted this:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7835/31570553577_826d5589e9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Q6MkFg)

which put me somewhat in mind of this:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4886/32638460168_eb16d2d75e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RJ9D6S)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Mito on December 29, 2018, 08:45:23 PM
Very similar. In location too. Lots more trees to make. :)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 29, 2018, 10:10:56 PM
Very similar. In location too. Lots more trees to make. :)

And needs a good high English hedge in front, too. 8-)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 31, 2018, 02:26:22 AM

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4846/45613734004_7a000c4abc_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cuJiXJ)

I have a cunning plan to hide the tunnel portal visible on the upper left behind some trees so it doesn't intrude on shots from this angle.


A single tree does the trick quite well:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4823/46534788871_17f6dd79db_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dU7Xu4)

The line above:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4880/31594609107_d571a6bfb4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Q8UCxM)

And to encourage myself, as it was in May:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/978/28234469248_3a7759e80d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/K1Z32W)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 31, 2018, 08:17:37 AM
A couple of random scenes:

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 31, 2018, 08:25:41 AM
You've captured the Japanese atmosphere perfectly. Mind you, you live there! Brings back memories of my trip. :thumbsup: :beers:

The blue train had a bit of a wobble, though!  ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 31, 2018, 02:41:39 PM
You've captured the Japanese atmosphere perfectly. Mind you, you live there! Brings back memories of my trip. :thumbsup: :beers:

I was following you and taking notes ;) Mind you, if you saw either of the two EMUs shown, you must have travelled back in time 35 or 40 years.

The blue train had a bit of a wobble, though!  ;)

Behind the camera it crosses some tram tracks on a 90deg crossing, which is not very conducive to slow running, I have found. I may need to adjust something there.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 31, 2018, 02:45:30 PM
And here are some slightly more modern scenes:

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Lawrence on December 31, 2018, 03:42:47 PM
Are the back scenes your own or are they commercially available in Japan?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 31, 2018, 11:28:26 PM
Are the back scenes your own or are they commercially available in Japan?

The urban one is commercially available (and appears to be a composite scene, not a real location), the mountain ones were freely available but seem to have disappeared from the internet since I found them.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 02, 2019, 12:24:19 AM
Japanese rail fans were out in force to capture this highly unusual excursion working.

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on January 02, 2019, 12:50:32 AM
Very cool video Railsquid san. すごい です よ。Keep them coming!

Also, I like be the detachable scenery. What keeps it in place?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 02, 2019, 01:06:06 AM
Also, I like be the detachable scenery. What keeps it in place?

Gravity, basically.

None of the track is fixed down either, though it is held in position laterally in some places by the scenery.

It all seems to stay together quite well  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on January 02, 2019, 03:59:09 AM
I used to know a OO modeller in Sydney who never glued his ballast down. Seemed to work for him
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 02, 2019, 05:11:19 AM
I used to know a OO modeller in Sydney who never glued his ballast down. Seemed to work for him

Now that would be messy, in my case.

When things have settled down I may fix some track sections down and smother them in ballast.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 03, 2019, 01:24:14 AM
Back to more conventional traffic, this time at a guess somewhere between 2006 (when the EF64 locomotive was painted into that livery) and 2008, when the orange 201 series was finally withdrawn.

Experimental drone footage also included.
 
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on January 03, 2019, 01:46:09 AM
You know, I think I prefer the grey Rapido couplings over the black ones!

Seem less obtrusive.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 03, 2019, 06:36:18 AM
You know, I think I prefer the grey Rapido couplings over the black ones!

Seem less obtrusive.

Indeed. Kato also provide even less-obtrusive replacement knuckle couplings with the loco; I might one day, if feasible, standardize on those for modern Japanese freight.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Railwaygun on January 03, 2019, 08:03:31 PM
You know, I think I prefer the grey Rapido couplings over the black ones!

Seem less obtrusive.
You know, I think I prefer the grey Rapido couplings over the black ones!

Seem less obtrusive.

i have a box of clear ones somewhere - from a small waggon maker ISTR - they look very good.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Railwaygun on January 03, 2019, 08:10:49 PM
Mathiesons!

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/83387-couplers-in-n-is-the-answer-clear/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/83387-couplers-in-n-is-the-answer-clear/)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 03, 2019, 11:53:17 PM
Those wouldn't work for this (or any of my modern Japanese freight locos) as they all seem to have custom coupling attachment - Kato in particular seems to be going for the world record on number of ways to mount a Rapido coupler (but never using NEM sockets of course), though on the upside the way they've done it here makes it easy to replace with the provided knuckle coupler.

The tank wagons do have knuckle couplers within the rake, even though the original rapido ones were grey, they stuck out like a sore thumb.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3758/33368452475_21fded1ef0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SQE3o8)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 04, 2019, 05:13:44 AM
People who enjoyed woodwork classes at school, and/or are fans of neat cabling, avert your eyes.













OK, don't say I didn't warn you.

Today's minor progress - the ghetto "control panel" as was:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4823/31653564597_c2be660c15_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Qe7MXK)


After some bodging, still ghetto but now "properly" attached to the layout framework so it doesn't keep falling off:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4849/46542624092_1ca6cdc677_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dUP7C5)

Just need to hide the cables and re-add the two switches for the lower loop. And add a "shelf" to put the controllers on.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on January 04, 2019, 05:42:48 AM
Similar situation here.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/albums/Bealman's_Album/Dir_8/main_23681.jpg)

What the photo doesn't show is it's hanging by a wiring loom and propped up on three paint cans.

I win,  methinks!

Bealette is back at Chez Bealman, by the way, Ian.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 04, 2019, 05:48:32 AM
At least you have a proper diagram thingy with labelling like a real signal box ;)

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 05, 2019, 09:59:14 AM
 :hellosign: Many thanks Ian for the updates & the latest superb photos & videos, lovely looking bridge scene
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 06, 2019, 07:30:44 AM
This advertisement hoarding has been annoying me for some time:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7858/32751977998_f5a76605a3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RUbrZQ)

because side of the embankment is at an angle, and the hoarding needs to be more-or-less vertical, which I had provisionally done with a lump of blu-tack, but after a summer or so that had slowly deformed and the sign was slipping downwards at an angle, and the stretching lump of blu-tack was frequently in my line-of-sight.

A quick rummage in the Big Box of Bagged Bits brought to light the supports from the same Tomytec signboard set, which are at more-or-less the correct angle, if inverted, so with no further ado:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7886/32751978178_6b3e5fcdb5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RUbs3W)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7846/39661269643_c46fbed246_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23qJnFR)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7876/45711713945_495b5481b7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cDotZ4)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 06, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
This hacked-about, unpainted "concrete" tunnel portal (by GreenMax, if anyone is taking notes)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7855/44638014110_41b5dd08b7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2b1vuqW)
station-throat-2018-12-25_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2b1vuqW) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

looks a lot better with a lick of paint and some strategically placed vegetation:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4900/31688801407_7b36690193_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QheoCX)
rear-tunnel-painted_01 (https://flic.kr/p/QheoCX) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

Needs a bit of retouching once the initial coat is dry, but an improvement on the previous situation.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 07, 2019, 01:23:14 AM
Gratuitous random shot, with an 183-0 series departing on an Azusa limited express service bound for Matsumoto, probably in the mid/late 1970s.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7849/32762027278_e6df50bfa8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RV4Xih)
rear-tunnel-painted_02 (https://flic.kr/p/RV4Xih) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 07, 2019, 06:51:32 AM
Same subject, different angle:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7836/39677855093_bc9865f8ce_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23scnXT)
azusa-station (https://flic.kr/p/23scnXT) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 09, 2019, 02:02:05 AM
Construction work underway shoring up the incline; here a protruding section is being added which will provide space for a signal, and other plausible-looking lineside gubbins.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7842/46618185852_db95386ca0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e2uov3)
embankment-construction-2019-01-08_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2e2uov3) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

From the other side:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4886/45755709175_ea861711eb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cHgYev)
embankment-construction-2019-01-08_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2cHgYev) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

And a random bonus shot, cunningly hiding the under construction bits:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7906/32795870568_b212dda92f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RY4pJh)
bathhouse-farm (https://flic.kr/p/RY4pJh) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on January 09, 2019, 02:20:47 AM
You're setting a cracking pace, Ian!  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 09, 2019, 06:27:43 AM
You're setting a cracking pace, Ian!  :beers:

I dunno, I have the odd habit of marking the approximate date on the back of bits of scenery I work on, and according to that I last worked on this incline in summer 2017, so it's been languishing half-completed for 18 months like this:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7915/45947142634_29c297e26f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d1c7Jo)
embankment-pre-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2d1c7Jo) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

Anyway, have another random picture :)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4872/46672333611_262bf34f51_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e7gUK6)
ef15-freight (https://flic.kr/p/2e7gUK6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on January 09, 2019, 07:26:03 AM
Now that is one cool locomotive.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 09, 2019, 10:47:15 AM
Now that is one cool locomotive.  :thumbsup:

Only cost me the equivalent of about 20 quid too :D Needed a bit of attention but runs reliably, not too loudly and without derailing, which is all I ask of my trains.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 09, 2019, 01:12:59 PM
I have the odd habit of marking the approximate date on the back of bits of scenery I work on

I used to do that on the underside of kits I started.  Some are in Roman numerals :no:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 09, 2019, 11:45:47 PM
Now that is one cool locomotive.  :thumbsup:

Only cost me the equivalent of about 20 quid too :D Needed a bit of attention but runs reliably, not too loudly and without derailing, which is all I ask of my trains.

My records indicate it was produced in 2001, which makes it an early MicroAce one, and also the only model of this particular variant produced. Also MicroAce omitted the roof-mounted whistle, which is present on this EF58:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4854/46681752031_af360a0081_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e87bvD)
EF15 and EF58 (https://flic.kr/p/2e87bvD) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

That can be easily rectified (pending round tuit delivery).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 09, 2019, 11:48:44 PM
Embankment out-jutting embanked, with signal temporarily placed for effect:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7917/39710661223_c1d90fc461_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23v6w5P)
embankment-construction-2019-01-09_02 (https://flic.kr/p/23v6w5P) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr


(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4899/32800492678_28d77bd8e7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RYt6HQ)
embankment-construction-2019-01-09_01 (https://flic.kr/p/RYt6HQ) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(no doubt the driver is cursing the "caution" aspect while ascending this relatively steep incline).

Checking for clearance on the bridge below:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7880/32800492838_50cc903e2b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RYt6LA)
embankment-construction-2019-01-09_03 (https://flic.kr/p/RYt6LA) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr


Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 10, 2019, 01:22:02 PM
The problem: a fault in the tectonic boundary between scenic plates:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4854/39723727453_16b0d16059_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23wfudD)
scenic-gap-2019-01-10_01 (https://flic.kr/p/23wfudD) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

The solution: strategically-placed cable trunking.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4831/45963804644_a17f8fb937_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d2EvLq)
scenic-gap-2019-01-10_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2d2EvLq) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

Just needs a bit of strategic shrubbery to hide the slight vertical gap (cable trunking is affixed to the block on the far side).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 11, 2019, 03:38:14 PM
And in today's random doing of things, some ballasting:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4816/46649528752_45b7877cab_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e5g2DS)
embankment-ballast-2019-01-11_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2e5g2DS) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

Work-in-progress, glue still drying. Later I'll add a layer of finer ballast which matches the Tomix track colour (there's a small patch visible centre-right).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 13, 2019, 03:40:12 PM
Shrub's up!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4835/39762041463_4b30ea9a38_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23zCRD2)
embankment-ballast-2019-01-13_01 (https://flic.kr/p/23zCRD2) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

Other angles also available.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4811/46674544592_685b57eaf2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e7teZs)
embankement-train-2019-01-13 (https://flic.kr/p/2e7teZs) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 13, 2019, 03:50:48 PM
Shrub's up!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4835/39762041463_4b30ea9a38_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23zCRD2)
embankment-ballast-2019-01-13_01 (https://flic.kr/p/23zCRD2) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

Other angles also available.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4811/46674544592_685b57eaf2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e7teZs)
embankement-train-2019-01-13 (https://flic.kr/p/2e7teZs) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

Weeds on the line, the chairman of the railway company will need to resign in dishonour  :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 13, 2019, 04:11:50 PM
Weeds on the line, the chairman of the railway company will need to resign in dishonour  :D

Welcome to Japan, and take a gander at e.g. this line:

https://youtu.be/R1OIc0YvITE?t=606

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Lawrence on January 13, 2019, 04:24:20 PM
Weeds on the line, the chairman of the railway company will need to resign in dishonour  :D

Welcome to Japan, and take a gander at e.g. this line:

https://youtu.be/R1OIc0YvITE?t=606

Shan't bother ballasting then, I'll just chuck a load of greenery at mine  :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 17, 2019, 03:43:48 PM
Couple of random work-in-progress photos:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4825/46724505522_ebd28130d4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ebTiCN)
embankment-construction-2019-01-17_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2ebTiCN) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7806/46039616634_a591f5b355_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d9n52G)
embankment-construction-2019-01-16_04 (https://flic.kr/p/2d9n52G) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on January 17, 2019, 04:32:36 PM
Excellent. What I really admire is just how busy the layout is.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: grumbeast on January 17, 2019, 07:09:55 PM
Looking great!, I like picture 2 especially,  the old and the new next to each other seems really typical of Japan
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 17, 2019, 08:07:16 PM
Looks good, but needs more robots :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 17, 2019, 08:08:37 PM
Looks good, but needs more robots :D

Don’t we all :bounce:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 19, 2019, 01:06:18 PM
Looks good, but needs more robots :D

Well if you say so...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7817/32924296328_3197578238_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SapCew)
robot-pikachu (https://flic.kr/p/SapCew) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 19, 2019, 01:13:05 PM
Meanwhile...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7826/31858150367_9494556d19_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QxcmbB)
embankment-construction-2019-01-19_02 (https://flic.kr/p/QxcmbB) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4871/31858150007_2dcce9a8f4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Qxcm5p)
embankment-construction-2019-01-19_01 (https://flic.kr/p/Qxcm5p) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(note: glue still drying, I take these shots after putting the requisite scenic element back on the layout to check everything looks reasonably OK from various angles)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 20, 2019, 02:14:14 PM
Onwards we plod.

Slight optical illusion with the fencing...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4899/46813274461_ef788ef3a9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ejJgxK)
embankment-construction-2019-01-20_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2ejJgxK) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr


I will need to chip away some excess ballast. Not terribly happy with the ballast overall, but it will do.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7845/45898262085_3491217b40_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cVSAfi)
embankment-construction-2019-01-20_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2cVSAfi) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 21, 2019, 04:01:42 PM
Need to protect the low-ish bridge from errant large vehicles...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4914/31886552957_4d0939aba0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QzGVhr)
embankment-construction-2019-01-21_01 (https://flic.kr/p/QzGVhr) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 23, 2019, 04:41:48 PM
Today we descend a bit further down the embankment...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7852/46799176552_97f2503b4e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eiu1Jm)
embankment-construction-2019-01-23_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eiu1Jm) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7854/32976120328_d2d72c4cba_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SeZeGL)
embankment-construction-2019-01-23_03 (https://flic.kr/p/SeZeGL) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7804/39886301753_cdd75349d5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23LBHTP)
embankment-construction-2019-01-23_02 (https://flic.kr/p/23LBHTP) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Train Waiting on January 23, 2019, 07:47:15 PM
I just wanted to say thank you for these excellent posts.

Japanese railways are far away from my normal interests and I know little of them.  Yet... I'm finding this layout to be absolutely fascinating.  Always something of interest, great photographs and entertaining text.

Thank you very much and I'm looking forward to lots more posts!

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 24, 2019, 03:03:22 PM
Thank you for your kind words.

I must admit to making this all up as I go along, though it helps living close to the protoype.

One aspect of this hobby I didn't anticipate upon my return to it a few years back is the potential for close-up photography, which if done carefully can hide the fact that most of the layout looks like the aftermath of Gozilla's urban lunchtime.

Not much progress today, though I did locate the bit of "road" which goes under one of the underbridges:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7887/46861537441_d2aed4d370_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eoZCs6)
embankment-underbridge-2019-01-24_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eoZCs6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 24, 2019, 03:25:40 PM
In other news I just remembered where I put the shop sign for this olde-style Japanese general goods store, the absence of which has been a minor niggle for some time. Now I can breathe a bit more life into it - this corner of the layout is pretending to be a bit of Japan in the 1950s or 1960s (or a bit of Japan which has survived largely unchanged since then, which is not as uncommon as you might think).

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7862/46809699922_41719da5e3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ejpWXL)
tomytec-household-goods-store_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2ejpWXL) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 25, 2019, 04:43:49 AM
Today Railsquid's quiet Tokyo neighbourhood has been echoing to the sound of the Bodgeridoo, while various tools and victims pieces of wood howled in terror, as it was finally time for... todo list item number ca. 234 - make a little shelf for various controllers:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7815/45953073255_3b41bfb2bb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d1HvGt)

controller-stand-2019-01-25_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2d1HvGt) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

I have been putting this off for ages as it would require cutting four lengths of wood to equal length, a skill which has thus far eluded me and any attempts to do such will be a guarantee of wobble, but happily my local 100 yen store (pound shop, dollar store or whatever) has recently started stocking wood in various handy sizes, some of which turned out to be the exact size I need.

Todo list item number 235: tidy up the wires...
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 25, 2019, 08:41:35 PM
 :hellosign:.  :greatpicturessign:
   Looking good Ian, thanks for the updates
        regards Derek
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 25, 2019, 09:08:08 PM
Many thanks, Ian, for all the excellent updates, recently. The layout is coming along very well.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 27, 2019, 08:14:40 AM
Spent a bit of time rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic, err rather a little experimental urban redevelopment.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7804/31949352107_2c66291ac9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QFfMhp)
urban-view-2019-01-27_01 (https://flic.kr/p/QFfMhp) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on January 27, 2019, 08:39:38 AM
Can see a dance studio, but no nude Trump  :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Mito on January 27, 2019, 04:01:03 PM
A nude Trump. Heaven forbid! :doh:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 27, 2019, 04:05:51 PM
A nude Trump. Heaven forbid! :doh:

Could be worse, a nude Nancy Pelosi  :sick:

Or both :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 29, 2019, 08:28:25 AM
Slightly different perspective...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4917/46189624344_408eb668ea_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dnBU6w)
local-station-2019-01-29_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2dnBU6w) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on January 29, 2019, 08:42:16 AM
Now that is one uber cool photo.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on January 29, 2019, 08:54:56 AM
Lovely.
I think that single figure on the platform really makes the photo.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Graham on January 29, 2019, 09:06:01 AM
looks really good, very impressed.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 29, 2019, 09:17:09 AM
looks really good, very impressed.

Seconded!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 31, 2019, 08:52:29 PM
looks really good, very impressed.
:hellosign: Got to agree nice one Ian
        regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 02, 2019, 12:53:34 AM
Thank you for the kind words.

Lovely.
I think that single figure on the platform really makes the photo.

The poor lady has been standing on that platform for months and was in just the right place for the photo.

I must say, those hills look very high when viewed from ground level...

Before (ca. 1 year ago) and after pics to remind me progress is progressing...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7883/46896841102_45f251b52d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2es7yZU)
tunnel-construction-2018-01-09_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2es7yZU) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7897/46896842772_d26e87b315_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2es7zuG)
hill-area-2018-02-01_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2es7zuG) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Train Waiting on February 02, 2019, 09:06:59 AM
Excellent progress in one year.  It would take me a decade to get that much done!

Your integration of the backscenes into the overall picture is absolutely first class.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 02, 2019, 11:52:05 AM
Seconded! The mountainsides are really excellent.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 02, 2019, 02:56:15 PM
I may have mentioned it before, but from a modelling point of view it's very handy that Japan is full of steep hills covering in dense growth rising up from the edge of urban areas  :beers:  :angel:  :thumbsup:

Meanwhile, we have this space at the "front" of the layout (well it actually borders on to my work desk) featuring a slightly dodgy extension boardlet needed so the track is not suspended in mid-air.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7927/46034643025_2506662ab4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d8VzxP)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-01_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2d8VzxP) by 5651@N06/]Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/12914[/i), on Flickr

What to do? The Scenery Recycling Department brought it to my attention that I have this:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7809/32007674167_b6aa9f7c74_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QLpGpa)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-01_02 (https://flic.kr/p/QLpGpa) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

which is now being integrated like this:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7901/39994681273_c6b313339a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23Wccme)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-02_01 (https://flic.kr/p/23Wccme) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

while some unique geological formations form very quickly above:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4845/39994681333_1fab3ec964_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23Wccng)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-02_02 (https://flic.kr/p/23Wccng) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on February 02, 2019, 05:58:59 PM
Good work!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Milton Rail on February 02, 2019, 07:29:01 PM
Going by the motto "you can never have enough track", experimenting with filling in a space just right for some kind of traction depot or similar.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1834/28919349777_803dd580c6.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/L4ve9V)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1779/42047230770_f8713edd40.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/274z3NE)

....sadly not a mentality shared by doctor Beeching .....  >:D   as you can tell, I am tracking back through your thread!!  great progress you have made
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 03, 2019, 03:14:57 AM
Ta muchly, on a bit of a roll at the moment, partly driven by the desire to hide the swathes of visible plywood next to my desk.

Talking of which, the construction crews were hard at work today, despite it being a Sunday:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7889/46913263912_86aff02ed7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2etyJVN)
lower-front-road-area-2019-02-03_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2etyJVN) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

While they were busy pouring this special white concrete, I took the opportunity to add some missing cable trunking, which also partially hides a gap between scenic elements:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7834/40000740963_499d196836_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23WJfFD)
cable-trunking-curve-2019-02-03_01 (https://flic.kr/p/23WJfFD) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr


What's that? Where's the track, you ask? Oh, just hanging around :D

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7816/40000741023_3635f4d129_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23WJfGF)
cable-trunking-curve-2019-02-03_02 (https://flic.kr/p/23WJfGF) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on February 03, 2019, 04:21:04 AM
 :laughabovepost:

I guess that's one advantage of the track base. I doubt Peco would be able to do that - well, not for long, anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 03, 2019, 04:51:32 AM
I did, in a very early layout prototype, have a section of curved Kato track hanging in mid air (it crossed two other tracks on a curve and there was no easy way to support it) held entirely in place by the adjacent track pieces. It would bend downwards somewhat as trains passed over, but was surprisingly unproblematic.

Not going to try that here (Tomix is a little less robust than Kato), but I must say the track system has been very helpful for making rapid progress.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 12, 2019, 07:24:59 AM
A bit more scenery...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7916/32103213117_06c64b2110_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QURmNr)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-10_01 (https://flic.kr/p/QURmNr) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7905/47068611561_2d714099a3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eHhWnx)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-12_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eHhWnx) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7849/47068611651_5dd4e0eb1c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eHhWp6)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-12_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2eHhWp6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7813/32127606167_d9fe3ce4d7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QX1o1g)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-12_03 (https://flic.kr/p/QX1o1g) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on February 12, 2019, 08:31:49 AM
I like the third photo.
It proves that I’m not the only one to work in a complete muddle.   :D

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 12, 2019, 08:48:28 AM
I like the third photo.
It proves that I’m not the only one to work in a complete muddle.   :D

Hey, it's quite tidy actually, I mean you can actually see the cutting mat ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on February 12, 2019, 08:45:31 PM
 :hellosign: Thanks for sharing Ian the end result is superb
  :greatpicturessign:.  :thumbsup:
        regards Derek
   
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Mito on February 12, 2019, 08:50:46 PM
I like the third photo.
It proves that I’m not the only one to work in a complete muddle.   :D
That not a muddle, it's organised disorganisation.  :no:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 13, 2019, 07:36:00 AM
:hellosign: Thanks for sharing Ian the end result is superb
  :greatpicturessign:.  :thumbsup:
        regards Derek
 

Seconded!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 13, 2019, 08:29:38 AM
Thanks, though I should point out I haven't applied the final foliage yet and you can still see plaster cloth squares in places. I just sprinkled scatter on while the paint was still wet, as a base covering, which works pretty well but leaves the odd "bare" patch.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 14, 2019, 03:10:29 PM
The camera drone was out earlier hovering over the new train depot area.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7854/46369788274_5ed93521ba_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dDxhyb)
depot-area-2019-02-12_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2dDxhyb) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(It is not clear why the scene was photobombed by an overscale Toby)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 14, 2019, 03:26:23 PM
Very nice to see Toby. I can see Godzilla, too, in the left-hand top corner. 8-)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 14, 2019, 03:35:56 PM
Oh, this might be a still shot from the filming of the lost Thomas series episode "Toby the Tram Engine meets a Mutant Monster from Under The Sea" then.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 14, 2019, 04:04:02 PM
As Godzilla was soon to find out, it is not wise to turn your back on Toby.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7916/47093755851_f210c9fcc6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eKvNTM)
toby-shed-lurking (https://flic.kr/p/2eKvNTM) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on February 14, 2019, 08:15:10 PM
Oooh, spooky! Evil Toby!  >:D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Railwaygun on February 14, 2019, 11:32:03 PM
is this one of the Tomy wind-up models? i have one, and RSN i will motorise it!

I just need to get a round tuit ...
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 15, 2019, 12:45:29 AM
is this one of the Tomy wind-up models? i have one, and RSN i will motorise it!

It's Tomy, it has a slit on one side which looks like it's designed take a wind-up key, but there's nothing inside and there's no drive mechanism.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 16, 2019, 03:15:45 PM

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7813/32127606167_d9fe3ce4d7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QX1o1g)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-12_03 (https://flic.kr/p/QX1o1g) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

All a bit greener now:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7903/46199252775_b788f46acd_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dotfhX)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-16_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2dotfhX) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr


Not really visible in photos, but seen here in a close-up shot, is the tunnel lining, which is a tad expensive but fits the portal exactly:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7808/47060818972_57c814cc6d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eGAZUy)lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-16_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2eGAZUy) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

This particular tunnel is quite visible from my desk so it's nice to have a reasonably plausible-looking tunnel "interior".

Meanwhile I have been thinking about various unsolved conundrums (conundra?) and have come up with a couple of solutions which should be reasonably satisfactory once I find the time and willpower to implement.

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on February 16, 2019, 03:20:03 PM
Peek-a-boo

Looks great.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 16, 2019, 04:18:50 PM
A couple of fresh perspectives made possible by the new scenic block:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7845/47061437072_196275393c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eGEaDs)
upper-tunnel-curve-2019-02-16_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2eGEaDs) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7926/32171826287_5b7d26ff5a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/R1V278)
upper-tunnel-curve-2019-02-16_02 (https://flic.kr/p/R1V278) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7895/47061436832_af07bf300b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eGEazj)
upper-tunnel-curve-2019-02-16_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eGEazj) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Yet_Another on February 16, 2019, 04:21:08 PM
... once I find the time and willpower to implement.

I read that as wallpaper first time through  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 19, 2019, 10:50:08 AM
Time for throwing stuff at a glue-slathered styrene sheet and seeing what sticks.

Before:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7889/46913263912_86aff02ed7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2etyJVN)
lower-front-road-area-2019-02-03_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2etyJVN) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

After:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7908/46220873975_a076a641c6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dqo4wg)random-maintenance-yard-2019-02-18_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2dqo4wg) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

After, with more junk:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7853/47143774921_5d7c103004_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ePWaPx)
random-maintenance-yard-2019-02-18_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2ePWaPx) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 19, 2019, 02:13:29 PM
Placed in a rather dark space, but at least another bit of plywood is hidden:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7822/47145436131_3b7b2d2da3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eQ5FD6)
random-maintenance-yard-2019-02-18_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2eQ5FD6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7846/40180473073_b6b6332998_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24dBqM8)
random-maintenance-yard-2019-02-18_04 (https://flic.kr/p/24dBqM8) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

 hope, at some point in the dim and distant future, to paint/weather the plasticky Tomix bridge supports, but they will do for now.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 19, 2019, 02:46:46 PM
A shot with a train:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7822/40181311243_ebeeae7def_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24dFHWk)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-18_03 (https://flic.kr/p/24dFHWk) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on February 19, 2019, 08:13:58 PM
All looking good, Ian!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: grumbeast on February 21, 2019, 07:46:05 PM
Looks great, it such a small scene, but the tuft grass and debris really makes it look great!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on April 17, 2019, 03:30:58 PM
All quiet on the Eastern Front following a visit from General Loss von Mojo, but here a couple of random pictures...

Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo EH200-12 heads westwards at the head of a rake of oil tankers, passing a 115 series on a local service heading towards Takahachikawa:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47576717722_bf01e4d4ae_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fuc7CA)
Kato EH200 (https://flic.kr/p/2fuc7CA) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Dual voltage Bo-Bo-Bo EF81 69 runs light loco on a test run from the workshops following replacement of a missing pantograph:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46889093804_faec9e7425_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2erqRZN)
Kato EF81 (https://flic.kr/p/2erqRZN) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Meanwhile back in the 1970s, a 183 series running an Azusa express service emerges from a tunnel:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7915/47446737182_594324c02c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fhGVWN)
Kato 183-0 series "Azusa" (https://flic.kr/p/2fhGVWN) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on April 17, 2019, 10:31:17 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
     Thanks Ian, always good to see your layout & trains
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 18, 2019, 05:39:51 AM
:hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
     Thanks Ian, always good to see your layout & trains
    regards Derek.

Seconded! What a wonderful variety of trains.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on April 18, 2019, 06:21:21 AM
Great photographs as ever
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on April 27, 2019, 04:31:47 PM
In case anyone is wondering, that sound you are hearing is the
MOJO RECOVERY KLAXON!!!!
:claphappy: :toot: :claphappy:


for it has just occurred to me that much of my lack of inspiration comes from having ringfenced one corner of the layout for Knotmore Street, which has resulted in a number of compromises which look good on paper but less so in practice, and moreover the physical construction would be a recipe for dissatisfaction and not something I have been looking forward to.

So with no further ado, the plans for Knotmore Street have been put on ice then bagged up and shoved in the back of the freezer pending acquisition of more space, which is not going to happen in the forseeable future.

However, silver lining and all that, it then occurred to me that I have a stub of shelf space which was three fifths of the original "Eitetsumura" layout, which I have no particular concept for, and which would make an excellent location for a Minories-esque layout which we could pretend is a even more fictitious "New Knotmore Street" representing a suburban-traffic only stub off the GWR main line. Watch this space, as they say (but don't refrain from continuing reflexive respiratory oxygen acquisition as it may be a while before the round tuits arrive).

So, back in Japan, the core layout will remain the same, but the incline connecting upper and lower levels can be moved across the layout like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47713637991_4bbb596d85_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fGhSfT)
rear-left-corner-planning-2019-04-27_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2fGhSfT) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(which also has the advantage of making it quite visible as I put a lot of work into it and it was previously quite hidden) and also give a stretch of mainline runnign through some countryside, which will be another opportunity for some mountainous hills to hide the other end curve. Moreover, previously it cut diagonally across the lower layout level which was rather restrictive, and now opens up other possibilities such as a stretch of tramline down a street of olde-style buildings like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46797404545_7a4c5600ce_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eijVYv)
tramline-planning-2019-04-27_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eijVYv) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

all of which had a place in the previous constellation but which were only visible from the rear.

Meanwhile a random picture from a section which will remain (almost) as-is:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47647782952_32d6315feb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fAtkRb)
MicroAce 155 series (https://flic.kr/p/2fAtkRb) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Innovationgame on April 27, 2019, 05:59:46 PM
It's good to hear the klaxon again. :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on April 29, 2019, 04:00:24 PM
The observation drone has been up observing a sudden burst of construction activity:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47680296462_ceddb5a245_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fDkYYW)
overview-right-end-2019-04-29_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2fDkYYW) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Some sort of elevated line is winding its way through the townscape:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47733451581_9258fbc88b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fJ3q9v)
elevated-single-line-2019-04-29_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2fJ3q9v) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

A tram passes by underneath:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33856295578_dcbc2bd734_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TzLn97)
tramline-planning-2019-04-29_01 (https://flic.kr/p/TzLn97) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(actually it's not really a tram, it's a former Tokyo Metro unit converted for single-car operation on the Choshi Railway, but it's close enough).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 29, 2019, 04:36:39 PM
Thanks for the latest updates, Ian. You have made a lot of progress. It's good that you have more space for your Japanese layout to be less constricted but I am sorry to no longer see Birmingham Knotmore Street. However, there are some stretches of track which don't look too Japanese where you can still run British trains?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on April 29, 2019, 05:22:18 PM
Thanks for the latest updates, Ian. You have made a lot of progress. It's good that you have more space for your Japanese layout to be less constricted but I am sorry to no longer see Birmingham Knotmore Street. However, there are some stretches of track which don't look too Japanese where you can still run British trains?

Well hopefully at some point I'll get round to building, oh let's call it Knotmine Street for now on the shelf stub, that should provide somewhere for the smaller local trains to run, and of course the odd special (albeit short) excursion trains with more exotic haulage. I have in mind something along the lines of this:

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/117470-birmingham-hope-st-br-ex-gcr-minories-style-urban-layout-1965/ (https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/117470-birmingham-hope-st-br-ex-gcr-minories-style-urban-layout-1965/)

but GWR-inspired, and in N scale, of course.

The advantage is that it will be a self-contained sub-project, though there will be a link to the rest of the layout so it can server as a (very scenic) fiddle yard.

I have a vague idea I might be able to do something with interchangeable scenic blocks on the main layout to at least be able to swap in some more British-looking scenery, we'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 29, 2019, 05:41:48 PM
Many thanks, Ian. I very much like the look of that fictional small Birmingham terminus. Substituting LMR for WR would enable a similarly nice mix of rolling stock and locos. I hope you'll be able to get some time to work on it, this year.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Train Waiting on April 29, 2019, 07:06:04 PM
Great photographs; thank you very much.

I really enjoy this layout; very different and much to be learned from it.

I'm so glad that your revised plan has resulted in your enthusiasm returning.

Thanks again and best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: keithbythe sea on April 30, 2019, 07:08:27 AM
 :greatpicturessign: looking very good, Ian.  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on April 30, 2019, 09:43:46 AM
Thanks for the comments  :thankyousign:

One of the things I like about the Japanese N gauge system(s) is the "rapid protoyping" they make possible, especially as one doesn't need to fix down every single track piece.

Here is the lower level station, making use of the extra space to have two through lines and a small goods siding (the structure visible on the right is a Japanese old-style goods shed, literally a shed on the platform.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40773376093_38a0af81e8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2581dbZ)
lower-level-station-2019-04-30_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2581dbZ) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

I am considering whether an additional siding makes sense, in the mean time I can play with the existing configuration to see if it "works".
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on April 30, 2019, 02:36:06 PM
While I have some time to kill before a late night conference call, a bit of testing to make sure the British locos can still cope with the incline, which is basically the same as before but the lower approach has changed. Five "Blue Riband" Mk1 coaches is the benchmark, this late Poole-era Class 90 copes just fine:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32797916377_1e74b1a706_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RYeTSR)
incline-2019-04-30_01 (https://flic.kr/p/RYeTSR) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


The sign says "Warning - unusual rolling stock overhead" ;)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32797916627_4ab9533eda_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RYeTXa)
incline-2019-04-30_02 (https://flic.kr/p/RYeTXa) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The incline will need to be angled over so it connects with the inner curve (the one with the brown ballast, olde-style Tomix track) which is tight but doable; this is the area where I'll need some major construction work (including another Chopstick Mountain), but based on experience with the other end of the layout it's feasible.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47688489362_5fb05c62ec_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fE4YrQ)
left-curve-planning-2019-04-30_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2fE4YrQ) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Please excuse the mess of hastily removed scenic elements, they will be cut up and recycled as and when.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 30, 2019, 05:54:41 PM
Very nice, Ian. Great to see a BR train, too.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 02, 2019, 10:54:51 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:
     Good to see much progress Ian,  :thumbsup:
   regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: grumbeast on May 02, 2019, 11:04:37 PM
Damn,  making me get my Japanese Mojo back on again!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 03, 2019, 01:39:29 AM
Incline now slewed over into more-or-less its intended position, after cutting away bits of the main line embankment (which were originally intended to support the Knotmore Street base plate, but after spending a bit of time bending over that part of the layout I realise it would never have been practical to work on).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46971511494_4823003c11_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eyHgUs)
incline-2019-05-03_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eyHgUs) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33883814818_6190e9e6ea_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TCcpDL)
incline-2019-05-03_02 (https://flic.kr/p/TCcpDL) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The blocked tunnel portal is part of the first piece of scenery I made for my first layout attempt:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33883848278_e790d013aa_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TCczAE)
eitetsumura-2015-08-22 (https://flic.kr/p/TCczAE) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

I may unblock the tunnel and integrate much of it into a steep hillside which will come in very handy in this location.

The main station has been expanded by one baseplate, meaning it can now comfortably hold six-car trains:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47760799681_1f750ec6e4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fLszMt)
station-area-2019-05-03_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2fLszMt) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(The double slip in the foreground is slight overkill for a small local station but is a great space saver.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 03, 2019, 02:28:21 AM
All fitting together very nicely, Ian.  :thumbsup:

That bricked up tunnel always reminds me of when the Fat Controller bricked Henry in!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 03, 2019, 02:44:16 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40794776973_f2baf0ef1f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/259TTVF)
james-tunnel (https://flic.kr/p/259TTVF) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

"Henry, can you hear me?" asked James anxiously.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 03, 2019, 03:13:58 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Railwaygun on May 03, 2019, 01:12:03 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40794776973_f2baf0ef1f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/259TTVF)
james-tunnel (https://flic.kr/p/259TTVF) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

"Henry, can you hear me?" asked James anxiously.

"For the love of God, Montresor!” (EAPoe)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 04, 2019, 04:39:47 PM
This evening some work with sharp-bladed implements, glue, toothpicks and various items from the styrene family has resulted in an extension of the incline into the curve.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40806196743_a3441b0aca_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25aUqCg)
incline-2019-05-04_01 (https://flic.kr/p/25aUqCg) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This handiwork will probably be hidden from the world's envious gaze by one of Railsquid's patent removable hills.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 05, 2019, 12:22:33 AM
That track comes in brown as well, then?   :hmmm:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 05, 2019, 12:36:54 AM
That track comes in brown as well, then?   :hmmm:

That's the original Tomix track design, in production ca. 1977 ~ 1999 or so and available in copious amounts for little money. It is still a good base colour for representing less modern lines which haven't had their ballast refreshed much.

Kato Unitrack was also originally available in a similar shade, though there's much less of that about.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 09, 2019, 02:37:17 PM
I do also find that brown Tomix track quite useful for depicting the railway system of the former East Germany as it was in the early 1990s, such as here on the 4-track Stadtbahn which runs through the centre of Berlin.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32867213517_526248d4d0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S5n4v8)
engelscher-markt-2019-05-09_01 (https://flic.kr/p/S5n4v8) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on May 09, 2019, 07:45:34 PM
What - the Takahachikawa line also connects to Birmingham AND Berlin. That is cool!  :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 11, 2019, 03:41:25 PM
Indeed. I am "cheating" somewhat by using the line which connects upper and lower levels to give the impression of the Fernbahn (long distance) tracks on the Stadtbahn, the rearmost track is merely a siding.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32881470767_8d38dbc266_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S6C8FM)
engelscher-markt-2019-05-11_01 (https://flic.kr/p/S6C8FM) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Said connecting line continues like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46908957865_8ed0ff8e55_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2etbETB)
upper-single-track-viaduct-2019-05-11_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2etbETB) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

where I am please to announce the short container train visible has reached that location under its own power.

Meanwhile, over in the countryside, a tunnel has opened up.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47825166471_412f74280d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fS9tMH)
left-rear-corner-2019-05-11_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2fS9tMH) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 11, 2019, 08:25:32 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
 Many thanks for the update Ian, aha has Henry been released  :D
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 12, 2019, 12:15:49 PM
:hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
 Many thanks for the update Ian, aha has Henry been released  :D

Henry has indeed been released and has been sighted lurking in another tunnel with a smirk on his face.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46915431615_c2554ba643_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2etKRiZ)henry-tunnel-2019-05-12_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2etKRiZ) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Elsewhere, randomly:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46914090435_3b08f7a80f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2etCYCc)
upper-single-track-viaduct-2019-05-12_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2etCYCc) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33948194058_6153358ac1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/THTnmE)
Tomix DD51 (DD51 856) (https://flic.kr/p/THTnmE) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

@Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255), this is a DD51 as in the Kyoto museum.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 12, 2019, 04:30:08 PM
A few shots for kettle fans, which as I'm sure I've mentioned before come in a number of exciting shades of black. Just experimenting with how the modified setup might look from various angles, feel free to imagine the missing bits of scenery.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33956033468_95da9ff31e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TJzxJU)
c62-kamome-2019-05-12_01 (https://flic.kr/p/TJzxJU) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46917041285_1285fbdabe_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2etU6NV)
c62-kamome-2019-05-12_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2etU6NV) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32889424547_70223da586_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S7jU4V)
c62-kamome-2019-05-12_04 (https://flic.kr/p/S7jU4V) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33956034028_b851708a11_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TJzxUy)
c62-kamome-2019-05-12_05 (https://flic.kr/p/TJzxUy) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40866734653_1b490fa444_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25gfGrk)
c62-kamome-2019-05-12_02 (https://flic.kr/p/25gfGrk) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Lawrence on May 12, 2019, 06:47:31 PM
Really must get myself a C62, lovely looking locos and I have a rake of those coaches kicking about which will look good behind it. Were they used for Royal trains Ian?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Train Waiting on May 12, 2019, 08:27:41 PM
Thank you very much indeed for these lovely photographs of steam power in action on your super layout.

No. C62 1 looks very much like the 4-6-4 that George included a photograph of in his wonderful 'Japanese Adventure' thread.

Thanks again.

With best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: grumbeast on May 12, 2019, 08:44:21 PM
2 posts with  a c62 and an EF66!  Thank you thank You!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 13, 2019, 12:47:10 AM
Really must get myself a C62, lovely looking locos and I have a rake of those coaches kicking about which will look good behind it. Were they used for Royal trains Ian?

A brief search appears to indicate this was very rarely the case, per Wikipedia (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9B%BD%E9%89%84C62%E5%BD%A2%E8%92%B8%E6%B0%97%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E8%BB%8A#%E3%81%9D%E3%81%AE%E4%BB%96) only C62 25 and 30 on a couple of occasions.

I see C62 25 is in the Kyoto Museum, per @Bealman's picture here (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=44971.msg566899#msg566899).

Thank you very much indeed for these lovely photographs of steam power in action on your super layout.

No. C62 1 looks very much like the 4-6-4 that George included a photograph of in his wonderful 'Japanese Adventure' thread.

Indeed!

2 posts with  a c62 and an EF66!  Thank you thank You!

I should point out neither are the latest models either, the EF66 is an old Tomix one with springworm drive probably from the 1980s or early 1990s, but which is quite reliable and I keep it around for testing the layout, though I'm also trying to do it up a little with spare parts from newer models when I get a chance. Here's a comparison between new (left) and old (right):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7896/46403338235_a75ac43dbf_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dGveMM)
Tomix EF66 new vs old (https://flic.kr/p/2dGveMM) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The C62 is a MicroAce model, ca. 20 years old, motor-in-the-cab foot-wide leading bogie tyres technology, but it and the set of coaches only set me back 20 quid or so and it's a solid runner, at least going forwards.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 13, 2019, 08:04:09 AM
Only when I climbed up on it in Kyoto  ;)  :)

Harping back to Japanese track (ie Kato & Tomix), and especially in light of recent threads about disguising it, it really a shame it only comes in Code 80 flavours.

I can't spot Henry in that second pic, by the way.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 14, 2019, 04:01:51 AM
I can't spot Henry in that second pic, by the way.

Have you tried looking behind you?

Harping back to Japanese track (ie Kato & Tomix), and especially in light of recent threads about disguising it, it really a shame it only comes in Code 80 flavours.

I suspect that is one of those things like the continuing DC-only orientation which works just fine for most people and there is little impetus to change.

Now what I would really like are some Tomix 7.5º curves for slighly more subtle changes of track direction than are currently possible; currently I have to resort to cutting 15º sections in half, which is doable but not-quite-satisfactory.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33967813838_28ebfca2b9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TKBVCJ)
tomix-track-cut-2019-05-13_01 (https://flic.kr/p/TKBVCJ) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 14, 2019, 04:14:44 AM
Yes, it's difficult to get sweeping type curves with this track. I'm sure it's been asked before, but is flexible track available in these systems?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 14, 2019, 04:27:24 AM
Yes, it's difficult to get sweeping type curves with this track.

Not even sweeping curves; I just wanted to angle the front set of tracks on the main loop inwards slightly, so they're not running parallel to the edge of the front of the baseboard; 15º (the smallest curve) is too sharp.

I'm sure it's been asked before, but is flexible track available in these systems?

Kato will sell you lengths of flexitrack, but it's just Atlas stuff.

Should I ever reach a point where I know what the heck I'm doing, I could replace some straight sections with Peco code 55 flexitrack, but for now I'm more than happy with the flexibility (hah) this system offers, as I can iteratively construct the layout in the limited time I have available, while still running trains, which is the main thing right now :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 14, 2019, 08:55:42 AM
Meanwhile, my skilled artisanal tentacles have hewn this section of embankment (the bit with the red diesel on it, a DD51 for those taking notes, @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) ) out of extruded foam stuff and given it a rough coat of brown paint.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40878470603_ce13a4a214_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25hhR8i)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-13_01 (https://flic.kr/p/25hhR8i) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This section used to be part of the incline, but as reported previously that has been shifted further around, and the entire connecting line now travels about 5/6ths of the way around the loop. The existing section of embankment leading to the tunnel has been jacked up to de-incline it.

I was also ecstatic to find I had all the bits to wire up the connecting track as its own block section, which makes running trains easier.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 14, 2019, 09:03:39 AM
Great picture. It reminds me of Hakone, so if your layout reminds me of somewhere I've been, I think you're doing something right!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Milton Rail on May 14, 2019, 09:28:09 AM
Great progress Ian, glad to hear your mojo has returned - lots of varitey on display and love the Thomas the Tank interludes :)   :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 14, 2019, 03:20:12 PM
So, in today's hour of manic late evening activity, the embankment has been "faced off" with concrete "panelling" of a type frequently used in Japan to hold steep bits of scenery in place. Though currently it is itself being held in place by sellotape while the glue dries.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40881870613_a87a8a9a56_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25hAgQa)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-14_01 (https://flic.kr/p/25hAgQa) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

I would have liked a gentler, greener embankment here but that would look horribly unstable and I don't want to sacrifice the road space for a shallower slope.

I also hacked out an underbridge as it provides a nice low-level view through to the station building.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32904708177_4951a9f39d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S8FemM)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-14_02 (https://flic.kr/p/S8FemM) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(Please excuse the wire, it powers the rail up top, I will find a better route for it soon).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 15, 2019, 01:18:38 AM
So, in today's hour of manic late evening activity, the embankment has been "faced off" with concrete "panelling" of a type frequently used in Japan to hold steep bits of scenery in place. Though currently it is itself being held in place by sellotape while the glue dries.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40881870613_a87a8a9a56_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25hAgQa)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-14_01 (https://flic.kr/p/25hAgQa) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


Glue dried, well enough to be able to remove the sellotape.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47062589534_5acee7cb7b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eGL5eu)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-15_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eGL5eu) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: keithbythe sea on May 15, 2019, 07:28:06 AM
Looking good Ian. The underbridge is a great idea but will present some interesting difficulties when lining it. (Maybe you could pre-build the lining and then jack it in place?).

A very robust looking retaining wall too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 15, 2019, 07:32:22 AM
Thanks - what interesting difficulties when lining it do you envision?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: keithbythe sea on May 15, 2019, 07:38:05 AM
Nothing sinister, merely the scale. But I guess that your “artisanal tentacles “ will be able to make light work of it.  :)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 15, 2019, 07:47:17 AM
All I'll do there is cut some 2mm card to shape, paint it grey, stick it to the walls and "ceiling" and pretend it's concrete :).

Similar to what I did here:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7887/46861537441_d2aed4d370_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eoZCs6)
embankment-underbridge-2019-01-24_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eoZCs6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 15, 2019, 07:53:18 AM
That looks exactly like a bridge I walked under with a similar pathway. Could have been anywhere, but I suspect the morning lost in Tokyo.

Cool modelling, Ian!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 15, 2019, 08:04:52 AM
That looks exactly like a bridge I walked under with a similar pathway. Could have been anywhere, but I suspect the morning lost in Tokyo.


I'll rummage through my Little People Box and see if I can find any which fit the description "lost tourists" ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 15, 2019, 08:13:15 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

You'd have to cut the left foot off to simulate a tourist with a dodgy ankle
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 15, 2019, 04:03:31 PM
Taking a break from amputating tourists, there is some more steam action today, in celebration of the very minor tweaking of some scenery in this area, including attaching some backscene bits I had from the original layout.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46939873555_f8beb278ae_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2evV83K)
left-rear-corner-2019-05-15_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2evV83K) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The locomotive in question is D51 498, a 2-8-2 (in Japanese terminology, the leading letter in the class specification represents the number of driving axles, i.e. C = 3, D = 4 etc.), modelled here by MicroAce in its preserved state, in which it is still operational running steam excursions north of Tokyo, pulling the very same blue JR excursion coaches as the prototype.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40889537573_f4c46d82b7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25igyX8)
main-loop-bridge-2019-05-15_01 (https://flic.kr/p/25igyX8) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

It is of a newer model generation than the C62 we saw previously (2011 vs 1999), albeit still with motor-in-cab.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46939873845_632cc33f46_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2evV88K)
main-loop-bridge-2019-05-15_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2evV88K) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 15, 2019, 09:24:29 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
Many thanks for the update Ian, all is looking good
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on May 16, 2019, 06:21:58 AM
So, in today's hour of manic late evening activity, the embankment has been "faced off" with concrete "panelling" of a type frequently used in Japan to hold steep bits of scenery in place. Though currently it is itself being held in place by sellotape while the glue dries.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40881870613_a87a8a9a56_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25hAgQa)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-14_01 (https://flic.kr/p/25hAgQa) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

I would have liked a gentler, greener embankment here but that would look horribly unstable and I don't want to sacrifice the road space for a shallower slope.

Seen from the Little People perspective, while it is plausible, it does look horribly brutalist, and also has the effect of giving the impression 6000hp of Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo locomotive might fall down on you at any time.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32915887357_086e4d2959_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S9Ewxg)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-15_02 (https://flic.kr/p/S9Ewxg) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

However what's done is done, but I was surfing Mr Google's Amazing Collection of Street Views and the creative cell of my brain issued a urgent Restive Equine Restraining Order, for I saw this (https://goo.gl/maps/AoVcdcvX2JYVjx2F9) and after a brief struggle with the procrastination cell the concrete was stripped:


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47070614794_57a4a1c55e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eHtcS3)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-16_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eHtcS3) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

and some earthworks hastily trucked in:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32915887497_c16ae07eb4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S9EwzF)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-16_02 (https://flic.kr/p/S9EwzF) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Looks much better now, I dare to opine  :beers:

For anyone taking notes, the locomotive is an EF11 (by MicroAce), one of a small class of locos derived from the EF10 for work on the steeper sections of the Chuo Line. If you're still reading this, the "E" stands for "Electric" ("D" is for diesel) and (similar to steam locomotives) the "F" indicates the number of powered axles, i.e. 6, which indicates either a Co-Co or a Bo-Bo-Bo powered axle arrangement, though we can rule the latter out as AFAIK it was never used for the old-style electric locos.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on May 16, 2019, 06:54:05 AM
Sort of similar to that one in the Kyoto museum
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on May 19, 2019, 03:42:12 PM
Nothing spectacular, just fiddling about with the scenery in this general area...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46964954125_0464d8c6a9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ey8ECn)
left-rear-corner-2019-05-19_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2ey8ECn) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Kettles are all packed away, starring today is a 251 series "Super View Odoriko" by Kato, which in real life plies its trade between Tokyo and the resort areas of the Izu Peninsula to the southwest. Model and prototype date from ca. 1990 and while it has a very distinctive appearance not to everyone's taste, it's one I've seen quite a lot over the years, also it was ridiculously cheap. (The prototype is, in Japanese railway terms, clapped out old iron almost 30 years old so will be replaced soon).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on May 19, 2019, 06:52:28 PM
Great picture. It reminds me of Hakone, so if your layout reminds me of somewhere I've been, I think you're doing something right!  :thumbsup:

Ah if it is Hakone - then their will need to be a model ryokan with some hot springs to bathe in! Brings back memories...
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on May 25, 2019, 04:11:16 AM
Oddly enough the hillside which will arise on the left of the above section is earmarked for some hot- spring style buildings.

Meanwhile, joined all the supporting bits of that section together into one contiguous scenic block and fixed the track sections in place so they can be sceniced up with ballast'n'stuff. Here removed from the layout for ease of working on.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47927014843_6fbb414259_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g29tL8)
left-rear-upper-track-section-2019-05-25_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2g29tL8) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The embankment on the left is recycled from my original layout attempt.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on May 25, 2019, 04:20:42 PM
First round of "ballasting".

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47929434167_46807060ed_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g2mSWB)
left-rear-upper-track-section-2019-05-25_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2g2mSWB) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Not the most traditional of methods - it involves cutting 3mm styrofoam board to shape, painting it a grey-ish colour, and sprinkling fine ballast over it while the paint is still wet. Some strips have been recycled from earlier attempts. A fuller layer will be added later.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47929435026_1561e52ca3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g2mTcq)
left-rear-upper-track-section-2019-05-25_04 (https://flic.kr/p/2g2mTcq) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47929443856_f28329c41e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g2mVPE)
left-rear-upper-track-section-2019-05-25_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2g2mVPE) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47929434061_c81e5730cf_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g2mSUM)
left-rear-upper-track-section-2019-05-25_05 (https://flic.kr/p/2g2mSUM) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on May 26, 2019, 03:45:19 PM
A bit more embankment work, and some older trains...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47936212918_c16149e27c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g2XC2C)
left-rear-upper-track-section-2019-05-25_06 (https://flic.kr/p/2g2XC2C) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 26, 2019, 08:30:57 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:  Thanks for the updates Ian, all looking good
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on May 30, 2019, 04:28:14 PM
Mainly finishing off the top of the embankment with plaster, and adding wiggly cable ducts (which is quite prototypical).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47966051941_298c9f08d3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g5Ay8x)
left-rear-upper-track-section-2019-05-30_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2g5Ay8x) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Nails will be removed once the glue dries.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on May 30, 2019, 04:38:52 PM
Looking good @railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832) !
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on May 31, 2019, 05:05:24 AM
And I think I have a new favourite location for train shots (once it's tidied up a bit):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47969948378_74d481ee38_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g5Wwpu)
left-rear-upper-track-section-2019-05-31_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2g5Wwpu) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Though this particular train (an E231-500 series) is normally found going round in circles in the middle of Tokyo, not in the mountains.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 31, 2019, 04:32:28 PM
 :hellosign: Certainly looking good having a day away from the city  :thumbsup:
all looking good thanks for posting Ian.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 01, 2019, 04:34:00 PM
A bit more ballasting, though it will need some tidying up.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47979379936_80ca20fa43_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g6LS5y)
left-rear-corner-2019-06-01_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2g6LS5y) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Apologies for the slightly out-of-focus loco, the camera is easily confused by these brown ones.

A slightly better shot:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47979323948_e5137b5e64_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g6Lzrf)
left-rear-corner-2019-06-01_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2g6Lzrf) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

For anyone taking notes, this is an EF15 1-Co-Co-1 1500v DC general purpose freight loco of the immediate post-war era, around 200 were built and lasted in service until as late as 1986.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 01, 2019, 11:39:16 PM
Is that the same one I saw in the museum?

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=44971.msg566899#msg566899 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=44971.msg566899#msg566899)

No, Just looking at that, the one I saw looks older.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 01, 2019, 11:58:49 PM
Is that the same one I saw in the museum?

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=44971.msg566899#msg566899 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=44971.msg566899#msg566899)

No, Just looking at that, the one I saw looks older.

Yup, that's a 2-Co-Co-2 EF52 (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9B%BD%E9%89%84EF52%E5%BD%A2%E9%9B%BB%E6%B0%97%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E8%BB%8A) from 1928-1931.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Graham on June 02, 2019, 12:38:26 AM
looking good, your new location for photos works well.
cheers
Graham
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 02, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
Today we spy a 70 series EMU, an early post-war design for medium-distance regional traffic.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47985903642_9920e3ac0e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7mimf)
left-rear-corner-2019-06-02_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7mimf) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

@Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) may or may not be interested to know this is based on the 80 series EMU seen in the Kyoto museum. Technically this is actually a 71 series, a variant of the 70 series designed for running in mountainous areas, such as on the Chuo Line west of Tokyo.

We have seen the EF15 locomotive before:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47985903767_e7a87349a2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7miop)left-rear-corner-2019-06-02_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7miop) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 02, 2019, 11:40:37 PM
Thought it looked a bit familiar!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 05, 2019, 01:51:57 PM
Train trundles through the mountain scenery...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48001017417_d3c6b842d2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g8FL9z)
left-rear-corner-2019-06-04_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2g8FL9z) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

and suddenly emerges into a built-up urban-ish area:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48007142798_67bcf4e31c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g9ea1A)
main-station-approach-2019-06-05_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2g9ea1A) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This is quite plausible for Japan's topography.

Low-relief skyscraper supplied by Tomix in full-relief and hacked into halves by self.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on June 06, 2019, 09:01:52 PM
Great stuff!

This is a fascinating layout and I really enjoy your posts.

Thank you very much.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 07, 2019, 02:47:17 AM
A few random shots featuring a 189 series "Azusa" express in a later livery (IIRC 1990s - early 2010s):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48016439226_ea502bc56a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ga3NvQ)
Kato 189 series "Azusa New Colour" (https://flic.kr/p/2ga3NvQ) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48016450498_f2b450cf64_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ga3RSb)
Kato 189 series "Azusa New Colour" (https://flic.kr/p/2ga3RSb) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48016438776_d7b5e4e576_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ga3No5)
main-station-approach-2019-06-07_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2ga3No5) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 07, 2019, 03:08:22 AM
More great pics. I really like that train!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: port perran on June 07, 2019, 08:09:01 AM
Great stuff!

This is a fascinating layout and I really enjoy your posts.

Thank you very much.

Best wishes.

John
Agreed, keep the photographs coming please.
Martin

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 07, 2019, 04:23:44 PM
Thanks for all the positive feedback! I still have no idea what I'm doing really, but having great fun doing it.

Happily I have been informed that the Squidlet will be absent from the house for quite a few hours tomorrow, which will give me a chance at getting the next "chopstick mountain" started.

Great stuff!

This is a fascinating layout and I really enjoy your posts.

Thank you very much.

Best wishes.

John
Agreed, keep the photographs coming please.
Martin


Here's one I prepared earlier :D with some classic electric traction (the EF15 1-Co-Co-1 which has been featuring recently, I imagine this scene would be in the 1970s or early 1980s, these locos were gone after about 1986 and as in many other countries mixed freight workings vanished around then too).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48017206956_2cf7469fe8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ga7JJy)
main-station-approach-2019-06-07_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2ga7JJy) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr



More great pics. I really like that train!  :thumbsup:

It's a classic 1960s/1970s JNR era design, there were many variants but sadly most have now vanished. This model is from Kato and is a somewhat older release (and cheap as chips) but is perfectly fine, though I have some detailing plans for it when I get a chance... Come to think of it I have three other similar sets in this livery, two from MicroAce and one from Tomix (and that's not to mention all the other variants in other liveries...)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 08, 2019, 11:35:35 AM
Today's photo was taken from the 1978 Lima catalogue.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48023463808_fa63c570e1_z.jpg)
(https://flic.kr/p/2gaENFj)lima-class-86-2019-06-08_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gaENFj) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr[/i]
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 08, 2019, 04:38:07 PM
Happily I have been informed that the Squidlet will be absent from the house for quite a few hours tomorrow, which will give me a chance at getting the next "chopstick mountain" started.

Unfortunately I was distracted by something non-railway-related, albeit pleasantly productive, then ended up doing some remedial work on the main (high-level) station, which was sagging slightly due to baseboard horizonality issues, so apart from some thinking about the structural engineering of said mountain, not much got done.

However later I was able to turn my attention to this section of as-yet undefined high-level track:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48024872822_abee827481_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gaN2wE)
main-station-approach-viaduct-2019-06-08_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gaN2wE) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

and realised I have some concrete arches which would fill the space nicely and make a transition from non-urban to urban:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48024797273_8e7d87dc57_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gaMD56)
main-station-approach-viaduct-2019-06-08_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gaMD56) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


to which end paint and glue were applied (in the comfort of my own workbench, you don't think I lean over 90cm of layout to do this stuff I hope?):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48024872912_32dcd91550_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gaN2yd)
main-station-approach-viaduct-2019-06-08_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2gaN2yd) by Rail
Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


and the resulting greyness replaced while the glue dries and I think about what to do next:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48024872982_924866611d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gaN2zq)
main-station-approach-viaduct-2019-06-08_04 (https://flic.kr/p/2gaN2zq) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(that space looks just right for some sort of railway paraphernalia storage or similar).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 08, 2019, 05:15:14 PM
And last one for today, a very contemporary scene with 6000hp of Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo EH200 at the head of a train of oil tanks.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48024978506_085c46c67c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gaNyWN)
left-rear-corner-2019-06-08_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gaNyWN) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The official nickname (helpfully written on the side of the locomotive) for these is "Blue Thunder", and you do certainly notice when one of these comes roaring into a station with the tanks clanking and banging behind it.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 08, 2019, 10:55:43 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:
 Many thanks Ian love em all   :thumbsup:
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 09, 2019, 02:23:28 PM
In tonight's act of minor inspiration we (provisionally) fill in another gap between running lines and wall of the room with a bit more backscene and some conveniently sized houses which are prototypically close to the railway. Strategically placed trees will disguise various discrepancies such as the slightly jarring break in backscene and the fact that access to these houses appears to be available by jumping into the rice paddies behind.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48030098637_35568a34f4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbfNYV)
main-station-approach-2019-06-09_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbfNYV) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48030015031_d564239775_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbfo8r)
main-station-approach-2019-06-09_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbfo8r) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 09, 2019, 02:39:12 PM
However I remind myself the houses above are way too modern in style (very late 20th century at the earliest), these two can cover a much wider time period:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48030097721_d77064cf63_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbfNH8)
main-station-approach-2019-06-09_04 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbfNH8) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48030202122_df9776486b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbgkK9)
main-station-approach-2019-06-09_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbgkK9) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 09, 2019, 03:11:27 PM
From another angle:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48030380817_9508bdb5bf_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbhfS6)
main-station-approach-2019-06-09_05 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbhfS6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 09, 2019, 09:27:01 PM
Many thanks for another excellent set of very interesting photos. I particularly liked the Lima BR train.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 11, 2019, 12:49:38 AM
I have a strange liking for older stuff, maybe ersatz nostalgia for the N gauge trains I would have had when I was young.

@Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) this is my sole Odakyu model, a "10000 HiSE" series:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48040380647_9df573791f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gcavsX)
Tomix Odakyu HiSE 10000 series (https://flic.kr/p/2gcavsX) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48040380667_77a43e91e2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gcavti)
Tomix Odakyu HiSE 10000 series (https://flic.kr/p/2gcavti) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Purchased during an earlier, less focussed phase when I wasn't too acquainted with what I was buying, and it turned out to be an older (late 1980s or early 1990s) Tomix model with their less-than-stellar spring worm drive mechanism, which is quite noisy, so it doesn't get out much.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 11, 2019, 03:07:51 PM
Tonight the Permanent Way Men have been along with their Very Big Hammer to temporarily hold a mini-embankment in place while the glue dries.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48043627412_f3fdb2ca40_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gcs9BE)
main-station-approach-2019-06-11_06 (https://flic.kr/p/2gcs9BE) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Those nails are, ironically, sold by Kato for the purposes of affixing track in place, but their primary purpose has turned out to be fixing bits of scenery in place while adhesive processes progress towards their desired end state.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on June 12, 2019, 04:06:49 PM
I have a strange liking for older stuff, maybe ersatz nostalgia for the N gauge trains I would have had when I was young.

@Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) this is my sole Odakyu model, a "10000 HiSE" series:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48040380647_9df573791f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gcavsX)
Tomix Odakyu HiSE 10000 series (https://flic.kr/p/2gcavsX) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
 

Looks just like Bealman's photos from earlier! Very cool.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 12, 2019, 04:21:15 PM
Not looking like any of @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) 's pictures is this JR East 253 Series Narita Express train, dating from the early 1990s (this Kato model is from ca. 1991) and retired from service around 2011 (though a couple of units have been retained for use on other lines):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48049821136_b691b241ef_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gcZTN1)
main-station-approach-2019-06-12_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gcZTN1) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 12, 2019, 04:55:24 PM
And just for fun, another EH200 shot:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48050033552_e5781b6906_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gd1YWm)
kato-eh200_3045_05 (https://flic.kr/p/2gd1YWm) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


and here its predecessor, an EF64-1000 series from the early 1980s (again Kato, very recent model):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48050086422_d84ccc60e2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gd2fDU)
main-station-approach-2019-06-12_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2gd2fDU) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Strictly speaking the EH200 was intended to replace pairs of EF64s, though single-loco workings of the latter on shorter freights were/are common (there are still a few around).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 12, 2019, 10:02:11 PM
Great pictures of nice looking trains, Ian.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 13, 2019, 04:24:58 PM
Right, well enough of that colourful nonsense, we're back to the Age of Brown in any shade you want as long as it's like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48055884208_aed30c6b7b_z.jpg)
(https://flic.kr/p/2gdwY8J)Kato EF13 (https://flic.kr/p/2gdwY8J) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr[/i]

Here we see a factory-fresh Kato EF13 and coach set ploughing into the mountains west of Tokyo on the Chuo Line, probably sometime in the 1960s. It must be winter as the freight-only EF13 (on passenger duty as it has the necessary traction for the many gradients) is followed by a steam heating generator coach ("MaNu34") to keep the passengers nice and comfy. (Loco is fresh out of the box and I have yet to fit the number plates).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: port perran on June 13, 2019, 04:30:54 PM
Chocolate trains - what a neat idea  :D

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 13, 2019, 04:48:29 PM
 :hellosign: Looking splendid Ian, thanks for posting
             regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on June 13, 2019, 07:40:54 PM
Railsquid san - I've lost track of how many locos you must have! Always new photos! What's your guess?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 13, 2019, 10:30:23 PM
Now that one I most definitely like!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 14, 2019, 08:36:06 AM
Railsquid san - I've lost track of how many locos you must have! Always new photos! What's your guess?

The number of locos (or more specifically powered stock) can be expressed as the "Hobby Constant", a hot topic of advanced mathematical research and which represents a paradoxical number which can never be precisely defined yet which is simultaneously Not Enough and Too Many, but which is increasing monotonically. In accordance with Einstein's little-known Theory of Domestic Relativity the size and rate of change appears different depending on the viewpoint of the observer and their role in the household (the "not another bloody train" phenomenon).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 14, 2019, 08:43:20 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

Well he did ask!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Innovationgame on June 14, 2019, 08:47:07 AM
It sounds a bit like Schrodinger's time independent equation.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 14, 2019, 09:15:33 AM
Something like that, though I make sure I store my trains in boxes free of both cats and radioactive isotopes to minimize the risk of unintended quantum surprises.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on June 14, 2019, 10:23:36 AM
Ah I recognise this theory, which is starting to gain lots of empirical support in the field of N gauge, and may soon become a "Law". I also subscribe to the Hobby Uncertainty principle - if members of the family believe a loco or train has been purchased, but they can't see it, does it really exist?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 14, 2019, 10:36:50 AM
I'd put Maxwell's equation in here,

Except I'm on me phone and don't know how to get the fancy symbols  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 14, 2019, 03:44:27 PM
I'd put Maxwell's equation in here,


Is that the instant coffee formula?

Meanwhile I have rummaged in the Catproof Interdimensional Train Box (necessary to prevent the Stash from collapsing into a spontaneous black hole, though Mrs. Railsquid contends that has already occurred with the Railway Room/Office) and for a change we have an actual diesel, in a fetching brown livery albeit with a daring white stripe:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48061401006_c8b460f198_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ge2f5W)MicroAce DF50 (DF50 2) (https://flic.kr/p/2ge2f5W) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This is a DF50 (by MicroAce; Kato re-released their version to go with the coaches, but I have this one already...), and those of you who have been paying attention will remember the "D" stands for "Diesel" and the "F" (if converted into a number) represents the number of powered axles, i.e. 6, though that doesn't give you the bogie arrangement, but (surprise) it's Bo-Bo-Bo.

Now, the Chuo Line is the main railway artery running west from Tokyo, looping through the centre of Honshu and eventually reaching Nagoya, but the terrain is much less hospitable than the coastal route (Tokaido) so as built, the line was full of switchbacks and gradients etcetera. However the section from Tokyo to Kofu (the first big-ish town over the mountains) was electrified by 1931 and the line is associated with a fascinating plethora of electric stock, but whatever steam there was in the Tokyo area on this line appears to have largely faded from memory.

West of Kofu was a different matter, as electrification didn't kick off again until the 1960s, so the EF13 previously shown would have been taken off there and replaced with a kettle, or later a DF50 (or more likely a pair of DF50s) for the onward journey.

For an impression of the railway scene in the area I'm talking about, take a look at this page: http://kokuden.net/mc53/sub100/sub100-1/sub100-1-tyuse.htm (http://kokuden.net/mc53/sub100/sub100-1/sub100-1-tyuse.htm)

(Worryingly I appear to own models of most of the trains depicted apart from the one with the chimney).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on June 14, 2019, 03:59:29 PM
I love the title! “Nostalgic Chou Line” and what great photos!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 14, 2019, 10:39:13 PM
 :hellosign: :greatpicturessign:
  Thanks Ian your a mine of really useful information
    regards Derek
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 15, 2019, 12:06:15 AM
A fascinating collection of photographs.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on June 15, 2019, 08:55:25 AM
What a fascinating post!  Thank you very much indeed.

I noticed a very nice lower-quadrant stop signal in one of the photographs; it has a vaguely GWR look to it.

The mixture of Japanese and western characters is interesting.

Finally, would it be possible for you to post your recommended 'Beginners Guide to the Railways of Japan' map.  I could play 'Google Roulette' but it would be much better to have a map chosen by an expert.

Thanks again and all best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 15, 2019, 11:22:35 AM
What a fascinating post!  Thank you very much indeed.

I noticed a very nice lower-quadrant stop signal in one of the photographs; it has a vaguely GWR look to it.

Come to think of it I don't recall ever seeing a mechanical signal here (outside of museums and old photographs), but they do look quite British in style, which is unsurprising as the railway network was originally developed (in the 1870s) under the direction of a British engineer, and if you visit a railway musuem littered with kettles you can throw a stone and have a good chance of hitting something with a British maker's plate (before being escorted off the premises by security). Which reminds me, I must have another rummage in the Transdimensional Box.

The mixture of Japanese and western characters is interesting.

Finally, would it be possible for you to post your recommended 'Beginners Guide to the Railways of Japan' map.  I could play 'Google Roulette' but it would be much better to have a map chosen by an expert.

I am not sure what is available in terms of online maps, a quick spin of the Google roulette wheel doesn't bring up anything particularly recommendable.

Wikipedia has a nice overview of the history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rail_transport_in_Japan
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 15, 2019, 11:31:28 AM
The infamous 'transdimensional' box is not a unique phenomenon to Japan. One exists at Cant Cove. It is believed to have been a spare from the TARDIS donated by Susan, Doctor Who's granddaughter. Among its many amazing qualities is that, just like the TARDIS, its outside is infinitely smaller than its interior! 8-)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 15, 2019, 11:36:01 AM
Meanwhile something a bit more colourful fell off the back of an auction site in the form of a 205-3000 series "Hachiko Line" train from the house of Kato:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48065390156_867b8629b5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2genFVo)
Kato 205-3000 series (Hachiko Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2genFVo) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The "Hachiko Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hachik%C5%8D_Line)" runs between Hachioji Station on the Chuo Line and the town of Kawagoe north of Tokyo; astute readers will notice that Takahachikawa also contain the syllables "hachi", and indeed Hachioji station is one of the inspirations for the layout location, so it would be remiss of me not to have some trains of the other lines which go there.

The 205 series was the last major commuter train series produced by JNR (the former state railway) before its privatisation in 1987, but is slowly being phased out, having long vanished from the more central routes, with many set being cascaded to secondary lines such as the Hachiko Line, but even here the last 205s were withdrawn last year. Some have been sold to Indonesia where they are enjoying a second lease of life in Jakarata.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 15, 2019, 10:09:03 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign: Thanks Ian
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 16, 2019, 02:26:59 PM
...
if you visit a railway musuem littered with kettles you can throw a stone and have a good chance of hitting something with a British maker's plate (before being escorted off the premises by security). Which reminds me, I must have another rummage in the Transdimensional Box.

We interrupt this timeline to take you back to 1872, when Steam Locomotive Number One, fresh out of the Vulcan Foundry, hauled the first scheduled train service in Japan between Tokyo and Yokohama:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48072720622_4709322465_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gf2g1J)
MicroAce Class E (Class A1, Class A150) (https://flic.kr/p/2gf2g1J) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

However at this point I must report a Scale Violation, for this model is actually 1:120, though it does of course run on N gauge tracks (which do then become more-or-less in scale for Cape Gauge).

The original is on display at the Railway Museum in Omiya:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4878/45419438274_f283a3e076_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ccyuBm)
P1020856 (https://flic.kr/p/2ccyuBm) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

I have some better pictures somewhere, this is from 10 years ago.

Note the model is based on the locomotive in its original form, it is preserved in a later, modified state.

Normal timeline and scale service will be resumed soon.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 16, 2019, 04:35:08 PM
So, fast-forwarding a century or so, the rake of excitingly brown coaches would, towards the end of its life, have been hauled by a locomotive in a colour neither brown nor black, specifically an EF64:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48072318783_549ec2c681_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2geZcyt)
MicroAce EF64 (EF64-42) (https://flic.kr/p/2geZcyt) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

If you refer to your notes you will recall "E" is for "Electric" and "F" for 6 powered axles. The EF64 (as with all electric locos with a class number of 60 or later) is a post-war "second-generation" design, i.e. an oblong box without the leading unpowered trucks typical of "first generation" designs, and unsurprisingly it has the wheel arrangement Bo-Bo-Bo (as probably mentioned previously, Co-Co is also available, but rare). Around the same time someone at JNR (Japanese National Railways) discovered the concept of paint which is neither brown nor black, and for whatever reason (apart from very early examples) the second generation locomotives generally came in blue (1500v DC) or red (DC/AC or AC-only), a tradition which continues in principle to the present day, albeit with many exceptions. (Diesels, when not brown, were/are usually a red/orange colour, but Japan went largely from steam to electric traction with diesels playing only a secondary role).

Unfortunately this locomotive as depicted is only a placeholder, for it bears the post-privatisation "JR" logo (and is also fitted with a train radio antenna, the stubby grey thing on the right of the cab roof, which puts it at some time in the 1980s) so is not prototypical for the carriages depicted, which lasted in some form until ca. 1975, so I am considering what options are available to obtain an early EF64 in prototypical form, as the options are suprisingly limited (Kato, who make the coaches, helpfully point out that an early EF64 version would be appropriate, but unhelpfully fail to actually make one; MicroAce do, but it is of an older model generation than the one depicted so not as well detailed).

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 16, 2019, 04:52:47 PM
Around the same time someone at JNR (Japanese National Railways) discovered the concept of paint which is neither brown nor black, and for whatever reason (apart from very early examples) the second generation locomotives generally came in blue (1500v DC) or red (DC/AC or AC-only)

While we're at it, here's a red one:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48072808241_b0e7871b50_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gf2H4p)
Eidai ED75 (ED75 91) (https://flic.kr/p/2gf2H4p) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Somewhat off the reservation here, as this is an AC-only ED75 (D = a mere 4 powered axles), a numerous class prevalent in the AC-electrified ares of northern Japan and Kyushu, which is interesting from a modelling perspective as there have been numerous takes on it from different manufacturers over the years. This is from a short-lived outfit from the end of the 1970s called "Eidai", who raised the bar in Japanese N scale production, but ended up as a victim of their own success. This model dates from 1979 or 1980, but is not all that far behind contemporary models and is a perfectly viable model for everyday use on a modern layout.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 16, 2019, 11:24:10 PM
Keep 'em coming, Ian!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 18, 2019, 02:03:47 PM
Oh go on then... While I had the Vintage Model Box open, we slip only a couple of years back down through model (as opposed to prototype) history and see another ED75, albeit of a much cruder nature:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48079928693_f9f54f2440_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfEcHP)
Tomy ED75 (ED75 513) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfEcHP) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This is one of Japanese toy giant Tomy's early forays into N gauge from ca. 1975, initially outsourced to Kader/Bachmann in Hong Kong, and this one comes in a case almost identical to early Bachmann ones:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/616/32479123426_28ab7bd37f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ru4ZQE)
tomy-ed75-box (https://flic.kr/p/Ru4ZQE) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

A very noisy but quite reliable runner and reasonably to scale, but those deeply inset cab windows could have been designed by Lima.

Tomy insourced production to their own factories in Japan from the late 1970s, around which time the Tomix brand emerged, and the quality of models improved enormously (competition from the above mentioned Eidai and other manufacturers will no doubt have helped).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 18, 2019, 09:12:57 PM
 :hellosign: Many thanks for the   :greatpicturessign: Ian & many more words of useful wisdom   :thumbsup:
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 19, 2019, 12:27:37 PM
Especially for @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) , as the subject came up in another thread:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48091545621_c78660ff95_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ggFK2F)
Dapol Class 35 "Hymek" (D7014) (https://flic.kr/p/2ggFK2F) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The bright light behind the headcode presumably represents Harold Wilson's "white heat of technology".
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 19, 2019, 12:38:51 PM
  :laughabovepost:

So that's the workin one then  ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 19, 2019, 12:41:53 PM
But seriously, isn't that one of the best looking BR locos ever.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 19, 2019, 01:12:20 PM
I've always thought they look a bit "dorky".

Not that that stops me owning two more :D

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48091764633_f9d4264531_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ggGS8K)
Dapol Class 35 "Hymek" (D7001 and D7011) (https://flic.kr/p/2ggGS8K) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: grumbeast on June 19, 2019, 02:28:14 PM
Looking good, one of my favourite BR loco's and yes I get it about Dorky, but still lovely
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 19, 2019, 11:54:49 PM
Totally spoiled them when they painted 'em blue  >:(
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on June 20, 2019, 08:22:45 AM
Totally spoiled them when they painted 'em blue  >:(

That's a very interesting point, George.  I agree completely (although I only ever saw blue ones in BR service).

To me, and I happily acknowledge that it is purely a personal preference, the slippery slope commenced with the small warning panel and got steeper and more slippery thereafter.  Although the 'Western' class in green with a small yellow panel looks good... but not as good as a 'Castle'!

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 20, 2019, 09:03:47 AM
Having grown up in the BR Blue era, I must say the green liveries are nicer, *but* the blue ones are more "real" to me, if you see what I mean.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 20, 2019, 03:44:43 PM
Anyway enough of this green and blue nonsense, time for a bit of red:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48097940723_8a050755fb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghfw54)
Microace 413/455 series (https://flic.kr/p/2ghfw54) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This is a 3-car 413 series AC/DC EMU (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/413_series) built ca. 1986 using the better bits of older EMUs which were in dire need of replacement for service on the Hokuriku Main Line on the northern coast of Honshu (the other side of the island from Tokyo etc.).

You can tell it's AC-compatible by all the gubbins on the roof around the pantograph:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48097992732_15a07d1e5f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghfMwL)
Microace 413/455 series (https://flic.kr/p/2ghfMwL) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

DC-only units have much less in the way of electrickery bits there.

If you look carefully, the car on the left has a different door arrangement - that's because it's actually a 455 series intermediate trailer car converted into a driving car, the 455 series being one of the older EMU series in need of replacement, but a couple of younger ones were deemed to be in sufficiently good condition for conversion, rather than constructing a completely "new" car.

This unit is completely outside the layout's Chuo Line, 1500V DC remit, but it was an early random purchase and it ticks the box "Frankenstein mixed-formation train made out of bits of other trains" so I will keep it around.

Incredibly this unit is still in existence, albeit in a slightly different colour scheme:

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW0jSxcH6k4)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 20, 2019, 11:00:08 PM
Have you ever considered a job as an educator, Ian? Cos you're sure as hell educating me!  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on June 21, 2019, 08:22:36 AM
Have you ever considered a job as an educator, Ian? Cos you're sure as hell educating me!  :thumbsup: :beers:

And me!

Thank you. 

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 21, 2019, 03:22:44 PM
Well then, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, gather round the internet for the next exciting installment of Railsquid's Obscure Japanese Trains:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48103085458_a834490b1c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghGTqo)
Kato 115-2000 series (Minobu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghGTqo) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

What's that, you say? It's the same one as yesterday? Most certainly not. Pay attention and count the number of passenger doors on each side, please. That's right - 3 sets of doors, whereas yesterday's train only had two sets.

That's because this is a 115 series (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/115_series) (2000 subclass), one variant of a fairly standard JNR design of EMU mainly for outer urban/regional stopping services on main/main-ish lines, so in contrast to urban commuter stock has 3 instead of 4 sets of doors, slightly more comfortable seating and toilet facilities.

This set was built in 1981 for the Minobu Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minobu_Line), located a fair way to the west of Tokyo "behind" Mt. Fuji, and which links the Tokaido main line to the Chuo line (hence my interest).

Now, if you were paying attention yesterday, you'll be able to tell whether it's an AC unit, or DC only:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48103146762_03a14d13fb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghHcDm)
Kato 115-2000 series (Minobu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghHcDm) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Answers on the back of a 10,000 yen note addressed to Railsquid, Railsquid Mansion, Tokyo, Japan.

Additional totally useless fact: when running as 4-car units, an additional cab unit was placed in the centre of the formation to provide additional guard accommodation, don't quote me on this but it may to cope with platforms shorter than the train.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48103146687_d3f374c9d9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghHcC4)
Kato 115-2000 series (Minobu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghHcC4) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


These vanished from service somewhat before the advent of universally available portable video recording, so are somewhat sparsely represented on YouTube, but here's a 3-car set:


(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlDUJtxWHRE)

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlDUJtxWHRE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlDUJtxWHRE)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on June 21, 2019, 06:41:26 PM
Please Sir; runs on DC only.

Just like Poppingham!

I wonder how much 10,000 Yen is in Pounds...

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 21, 2019, 11:50:21 PM
73 pounds 15 pence
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 22, 2019, 01:31:32 AM
Please Sir; runs on DC only.

Just like Poppingham!

But not 1500v DC, I wager.


I wonder how much 10,000 Yen is in Pounds...

73 pounds 15 pence

Correct, or approximately one Union Mills steam locomotive. Congratulations, you have won today's prize, a special commemorative set of Lima wheelsets (today's second prize is two special commemorative sets of Lima wheelsets).

From a modelling perspective, the 115 series is by Kato, I can't be bothered to look up when this set was made, but the tooling/design is fairly typical of the period ca. 1985 - 2005, i.e. it's a decent model and a vast improvement over earlier models, with features such as properly inset windows, motor mounted below window height, generally improved detail and paintwork, but not quite up to the standards of current production. They are however very good value for money and a few simple improvements can make a difference, in particular in the area between cars, which is wide enough to jump a motorbike through if you get the timing right (tricky if the train is moving, so don't try this at home):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1848/44127433731_48e3a4d709_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aeoCEX)
Kato 115 series (old-style) original (https://flic.kr/p/2aeoCEX) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Replacing the rapido couplings with Kato "Scharfenberg"-style close(r) couplings reduces the gap, while adding corridor connectors fills most of the rest:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1900/44127433961_e8191eedac_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aeoCJV)
Kato 115 series (old-style) modified (https://flic.kr/p/2aeoCJV) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The corridor connectors are available in copious amounts as spare parts, they're designed to clip in place, but these older trains don't have the necessary slots (and it's not feasible to add them) so the clips need to be removed like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47570018752_de93cca86b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ftAMg7)
kato-z06-0227-horo_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2ftAMg7) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


and the corridor connectors glued in place; I use a PVA-like glue available in Japan which is actually intended for wood, but I find it much easier to work with than glues intended for plastic, as it's easy to remove without damaging the body if it gets in the wrong place, but it is firm enough to hold the connectors in place; example from a different train:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46898616984_e83a82ec37_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2esgEUy)
kato-165-series-corridor-attachment_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2esgEUy) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46898617064_2ff28a2f36_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2esgEVW)
kato-165-series-corridor-attachment_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2esgEVW) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Anyway after all that technical detail, here's a nice older (ca. 1979) film of the aforementioned Minobu Line, which used to be home to an attractive variety of older trains cascaded down from more prosoperous lines, and at the end you can even see an English Electric locomotive:

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxYXYcVOetw)

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxYXYcVOetw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxYXYcVOetw)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 22, 2019, 02:19:56 AM
I'm afraid the last two vids don't show on my phone  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 22, 2019, 02:32:39 AM
I'm afraid the last two vids don't show on my phone  :hmmm:

They look fine on both my computers.

No idea what the correct incantation is for mobile display; I added the direct Youtube link...
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Graham on June 22, 2019, 03:04:18 AM
Hi Ian, the vids did not show for me either, on Win10 pc running Edge browser. Link worked fine.
cheers
Graham
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 22, 2019, 03:42:01 AM
Yeah, the links work, thanks! The vids show on my tablet, so they probably will on me laptop too.

I like the old 8mm film!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 22, 2019, 07:56:49 AM
So, fast-forwarding a century or so, the rake of excitingly brown coaches would, towards the end of its life, have been hauled by a locomotive in a colour neither brown nor black, specifically an EF64:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48072318783_549ec2c681_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2geZcyt)MicroAce EF64 (EF64-42) (https://flic.kr/p/2geZcyt) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

If you refer to your notes you will recall "E" is for "Electric" and "F" for 6 powered axles. The EF64 (as with all electric locos with a class number of 60 or later) is a post-war "second-generation" design, i.e. an oblong box without the leading unpowered trucks typical of "first generation" designs, and unsurprisingly it has the wheel arrangement Bo-Bo-Bo (as probably mentioned previously, Co-Co is also available, but rare). Around the same time someone at JNR (Japanese National Railways) discovered the concept of paint which is neither brown nor black, and for whatever reason (apart from very early examples) the second generation locomotives generally came in blue (1500v DC) or red (DC/AC or AC-only), a tradition which continues in principle to the present day, albeit with many exceptions. (Diesels, when not brown, were/are usually a red/orange colour, but Japan went largely from steam to electric traction with diesels playing only a secondary role).

Unfortunately this locomotive as depicted is only a placeholder, for it bears the post-privatisation "JR" logo (and is also fitted with a train radio antenna, the stubby grey thing on the right of the cab roof, which puts it at some time in the 1980s) so is not prototypical for the carriages depicted, which lasted in some form until ca. 1975, so I am considering what options are available to obtain an early EF64 in prototypical form, as the options are suprisingly limited (Kato, who make the coaches, helpfully point out that an early EF64 version would be appropriate, but unhelpfully fail to actually make one; MicroAce do, but it is of an older model generation than the one depicted so not as well detailed).

And here it is, and my wallet GBP20 or so lighter:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48106870761_1ce79e9ce3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gi3hEe)
MicroAce EF64 (EF64-3) (https://flic.kr/p/2gi3hEe) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The model is 18 years old and by the sounds of the occasional screech will need stripping down and lubricating in all the right places, which is likely to be fiddly as I think this is a split-chassis design.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: weave on June 22, 2019, 08:09:51 AM
Hi railsquid,

Have only been hitting the 'thank you' button so firstly to say thanks properly for all the great pics.

Also thank you for the corridor connector post. I need some similar ones for some '70s French coaches I bought on ebay. All of them are missing the connectors and I couldn't find anything that would look right but those ones painted black might fit the bill.

I hadn't heard of Kato ASSY before so thanks for the part number. Only seem to be available in Japan and my computer doesn't seem to like translating Japanese although it did with the 'Model Train Plus' site so will get some from there unless you know of a better option? As they are light and not too expensive I hopefully won't be fleeced by postage and import tax.

Too many thank yous there so Cheers, weave  :beers:

PS. Can't see vids either  :(



Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 22, 2019, 08:26:48 AM
Hi railsquid,

Have only been hitting the 'thank you' button so firstly to say thanks properly for all the great pics.

Also thank you for the corridor connector post. I need some similar ones for some '70s French coaches I bought on ebay. All of them are missing the connectors and I couldn't find anything that would look right but those ones painted black might fit the bill.

I hadn't heard of Kato ASSY before so thanks for the part number. Only seem to be available in Japan and my computer doesn't seem to like translating Japanese although it did with the 'Model Train Plus' site so will get some from there unless you know of a better option? As they are light and not too expensive I hopefully won't be fleeced by postage and import tax.

Yup, parts mainly only available in Japan unless they're for Kato's overseas models.  'Model Train Plus' has a good reputation, I've met the proprietor on a couple of occasions and he's a very nice guy.

If you put "カトー assy ホロ" (or even "kato assy horo", eek) into Google Image search etc. you can get an overview of the bewildering variety of available corridor connectors.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 22, 2019, 05:12:38 PM
And today's colour is "orange", as we leap back into the present day with this Chuo Line E233 series EMU (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E233_series#E233-0_series), which is the mainstay of commuter services on the Chuo Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%AB%C5%8D_Line_%28Rapid%29) from Tokyo Station usually as far as Takao on the edge of the urban area, where the Kanto Plain hits the hills, but sometimes beyond, even onto the private Fujikyu line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujikyuko_Line) which runs down towards Mt. Fuji. There is also a spray of Chuo Line branches served by this train.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48108206311_d914cdee73_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gia8EX)
Tomix E233 (Chuo Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gia8EX) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Introduced in 2006, and currently undergoing midlife refurbishment which includes the addition of toilet facilities, as these trains do have some quite long runs. Standard train length is 10 cars, though they do split into 6/4 car units on some of the outer branches. There is a plan to add two double-decker reserved seat cars (as present on other longer-distance commuter lines), though that will involve extending the platforms on 50+ stations, and it's not clear how long that will take.

I should note that the JR lines in the Tokyo area each have their own distinctive line colour, which is used not only on the trains but also as the line "branding", as well as on the network maps. The Chuo Line is orange, which has some historical background I will touch upon when we've dialed back a couple of train generations.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48108206406_a3559e94a7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gia8GA)
Tomix E233 (Chuo Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gia8GA) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Model by Tomix, detailing added by previous owner (in the first photo the pink stickers on the windows indicate the car is reserved for ladies only during the morning rush hour).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 22, 2019, 09:47:29 PM
 :hellosign: Many thanks Ian, all splendid info &   :greatpicturessign:
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 23, 2019, 02:55:02 PM
So, let's take a break from identifying trains and consider this very bare and desolate end of the layout:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48113840721_ce405d5901_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giE1zX)
left-side-hill-2019-06-23_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2giE1zX) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The plan is to hide it under mountainous scenery, upon which will reside various hot spring resort buildings.

We make a start by repurposing some scenery from an earlier layout iteration which was gathering dust on a shelf by converting it into a narrow, steep windy road (for access to the said hot springs, though for purposes of better  access we'll imagine there's another route friendlier to larger vehicles).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48113840826_5850142d28_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giE1BL)
left-side-hill-2019-06-23_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2giE1BL) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 24, 2019, 03:35:51 PM
Today we see some scenic acupuncture, aka how to hold the facing wall in place and maintain a subtle concave curve while the glue dries. I usually use what the Blue Peter presenters used to delicately refer to as "sticky tape" wrapped tightly around the scenic block in question, but that's not really practical here.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48120455508_c7d7857c94_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gjeUW1)
left-side-hill-2019-06-24_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gjeUW1) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

It was previously almost vertical, but there is now space for a slightly less severe slope.

The section of road it supports was originally meant to be a two-lane main road, but the incline is a little on the steep side; the width will be reduced to a narrow mountain road more suited to the climb.

Also the tunnel engineers have been hard at work, mildly inconvenienced by the discovery of an expanded polystyrene layer in the local geology.

Assiduous takers of notes will no doubt be able to identify the train in the background.

Meanwhile my attention was grabbed by this magazine in my local bookstore:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48120509163_2089fc474c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gjfbT6)
rail-magazine-2019-08_vol-431 (https://flic.kr/p/2gjfbT6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

which has a big feature on the history of the Chuo Line, including many pictures I haven't seen before and which have caused some hurried additions to the "must purchase" list.

The train featured on the cover is a 115 series, a different variant to the Minobu Line one we have seen previously, and which will no doubt be subject of a future post or two.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 25, 2019, 01:13:21 AM
Have we ever seen a layout plan, Ian?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 25, 2019, 03:32:15 AM
Have we ever seen a layout plan, Ian?  :hmmm:

I'm sure I've posted plans before, maybe in a predecessor thread, but the last printed plan I have now bears very little relation to the reality on the ground. When I get a chance and the whole thing doesn't look too much of a bomb site, I'll post some aerial photos (with track-obscuring scenery removed where feasible) which should give an idea of how it fits together at whatever point it's evolved to by then.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 25, 2019, 03:44:57 AM
Thanks!

Bit like my layout...  can't provide a complete plan 'cos it's not finished, and probably never will be, unfortunately.  :(
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 25, 2019, 04:22:36 PM
And in today's episode of the Never-Ending Layout Story, some more work on integrating the Repurposed Scenic Block into the current scenery configuration:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48126953242_eb0bb5d105.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gjPdtU)
left-side-hill-2019-06-25_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gjPdtU) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

It's starting to fit together, both literally and figuratively, and the above view is one I can see from the comfort of the office chair, and it will be quite spiffing to see trains pop in and out of the tunnels, I reckon.

From another perspective, albeit one only available by holding the camera at an unnatural angle:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48126863556_f503e24b76.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gjNKPA)
left-side-hill-2019-06-25_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gjNKPA) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

We have not yet been introduced to the orange train, bonus points to anyone who can identify it.

The blue/light grey one is a Shinkansen coach which is my go-to clearance tester.

Tunnel portal by Peco, @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) will be interested to know I found it in the shop he purchased his Kato locomotive in.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on June 25, 2019, 07:58:51 PM
Thank you for these pictures.  You certainly have the scenic work under control.

As for the orange train...  I'm not totally sure (a jolly good euphemism!), but I think it's a commuter train (lots of doors) and DC only (not a lot of pantograph-related gubbins).

No bonus points for me; then!

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 25, 2019, 11:30:40 PM
I thought it was a Peco portal. Interesting source!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: weave on June 25, 2019, 11:44:45 PM
Orange Class 201?

If it is I cheated so please donate any bonus points to charity. If not, 'I got it wrong again dad' but am learning more about all this Japanese stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 25, 2019, 11:55:23 PM
Orange Class 201?

If it is I cheated so please donate any bonus points to charity.

Correct!

Your bonus points have been donated to the Tachikawa Area N Gauge Addiction Therapy Group, where they will be used to wean sufferers off their impulse to purchase new N gauge trains, oh sod it Tomix have a new one out this week.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: weave on June 26, 2019, 12:10:01 AM
Is it a Kato 10-374?

I had just Googled 'orange Japanese commuter train photos' and something by 'tutenkhamunsleeping' on the N Gauge Forum from March 2018 came up about 8 pics down  :).

Enjoy your new purchase.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 26, 2019, 12:41:50 AM
Is it a Kato 10-374?

I had just Googled 'orange Japanese commuter train photos' and something by 'tutenkhamunsleeping' on the N Gauge Forum from March 2018 came up about 8 pics down  :).

Actually 10-370, I think 10-374 is the 4-car add-on set.

This 201 series (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/201_series) model dates from ca. 1997, the protoype from ca. 1980 when it was launched as the first of a new generation of commuter trains with more efficient electrickery bits resulting in substantial (ca. 30%?) power consumption reduction compared to the earlier designs. It replaced the mix of 101 and 103 series trains, though the latter survived on the outer branches for a few years.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48108616936_acbda85667_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giceJG)
Kato 201 series (Chuo Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2giceJG) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The cab windows were a new, more modern-looking design, but the car bodies followed the conventional commuter train pattern, thought this was the last class to carry the all-over colour.

Replace ca. 2006 - 2008 by the previously seen E233 series.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48108617001_f495b56e0e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giceKP)
Kato 201 series (Chuo Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2giceKP) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Webbo on June 26, 2019, 12:44:58 AM
Hi railsquid

I can see why you and others like Japanese railway modelling. The passenger trains you show look very good with great variety and the quality of the models looks excellent.

Webbo
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 26, 2019, 01:39:11 AM
Since my trip, I must admit I've become very interested in Japanese models.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 26, 2019, 06:20:00 AM
They certainly are addictive.  It's the advantage of N being the dominant scale here and a wide range of trains from multiple manufacturers being available at usually quite reasonable prices and with consistent quality. Though I'd say the level of detailing is generally somewhat behind current British models and there is often a bit of self-assembly required. On the other hand there's also a huge range of 3rd party detailing parts etc. available.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48108616936_acbda85667_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giceJG)
Kato 201 series (Chuo Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2giceJG) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The cab windows were a new, more modern-looking design, but the car bodies followed the conventional commuter train pattern, thought this was the last class to carry the all-over colour.

Taking a brief step away from the Chuo Line, this is the successor class, the 203 series, which is basically the underground version of the 201 series designed for through-running between JR's Joban Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C5%8Dban_Line) in the north east of Tokyo and the Tokyo Metro Chiyoda Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Metro_Chiyoda_Line) (which connects with the Odakyu line linking Shinjuku with Odawara/Hakone, though at the time these were running, JR trains didn't run on it at all). This class marks the transition to the aluminium body with horizontal colour stripe which was carried through to the E233 series, but retains the classic body design, the last class to do so.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48047036228_cfe5394785_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gcKBWm)
MicroAce 203 series (https://flic.kr/p/2gcKBWm) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Model by MicroAce, special edition representing the set on its final run in 2011 with commemorative headmark etc. Unlike other manufacturers MicroAce tend to provide models completely complete and specialize in very specific representations of particular sets at particular times. They do then tend to be somewhat more expensive (unless you fine them as absolute bargains, like this one, new it cost me less than the RRP of two Farish Mk1s  :thumbsup:).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4810/46027895971_ed222cb83e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d8jZTi)
MicroAce 203 series (https://flic.kr/p/2d8jZTi) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 26, 2019, 07:33:52 AM
Now that's a great price! I really wish I'd bought a few more Kato locos that day in Tokyo. They're such beautiful runners.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 26, 2019, 07:41:55 AM
Hi railsquid

I can see why you and others like Japanese railway modelling. The passenger trains you show look very good with great variety and the quality of the models looks excellent.

Webbo

Yes, I fully agree.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Buffin on June 26, 2019, 10:50:47 AM
Quote
It's the advantage of ... a wide range of trains from multiple manufacturers being available at usually quite reasonable prices and with consistent quality. Though I'd say the level of detailing is generally somewhat behind current British models and there is often a bit of self-assembly required.

Here in the UK the reviews and the market stress mega detailing, which must raise prices. Japanese real railways seem to produce so many prototype variations, and we can only envy the speed with which the Japanese model market follows suit  :)

For someone who loves a multiple unit, it does make Japanese modelling more tempting!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 26, 2019, 10:54:36 AM
You and me both, Buff!  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on June 26, 2019, 04:52:04 PM
Fascinating stuff, I remember the orange ones from my time in Japan in the late 90s'. I used to live one year in Ogikubo and one year near Mitaka (both West of Tokyo - see line map):
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/6745-260619164743.png)
I'm getting quite nostalgic. I hope to get a business trip in to Japan maybe 2020 and I can check out all the new trains. I will ask advice from Squid-san and Bealeman on what railway related sightseeing I should do....still very interested to see the Maglev.

@railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832)  - Is there no part of the layout that could hide a few tunnels and a dead straight maglev line? Surely the Tokyo to Nagoya extension will pass right past Takahachikawa ?  :)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 27, 2019, 01:21:33 AM
The Maglev, I believe, will be largely built in tunnels, particularly underneath the Tokyo area, so anyone who wishes to imagine its presence swooshing by deep beneath the baseboards is free to do so.

Takara-Tomy (parent company of Tomix) do a toy-like representation of it, though to be honest it's not a mode of transport which particularly appeals to me, either as model or prototype.


Fascinating stuff, I remember the orange ones from my time in Japan in the late 90s'. I used to live one year in Ogikubo and one year near Mitaka (both West of Tokyo - see line map):
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/6745-260619164743.png)

Ah yes, Chez Railsquid is literally up the road from Mitaka. I've spent a fair bit of time over the last couple of years with the Squidlet on the bridge over the depot there.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 27, 2019, 04:10:38 AM
So, talking of Mitaka, it is the western terminus of the Chuo-Sobu Line, which is the yellow line running next to the thick orange Chuo Line Rapid in the map above. Technically it's part of the Chuo and Sobu lines (the Sobu line being the dark blue one on the map running northeast from Tokyo Station), but operationally is a separate pair of tracks providing local all-station services for both lines. And to confuse things further, it also does through-running with the Tokyo Metro Tozai Line at both ends, but we'll worry about that later.

The point of this little ramble is the 205 series (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/205_series) train, which is the successor to the 201 using a different, more cost-effective electrickery control mechanism, and has an all-stainless steel body and, in a departure from tradition, larger side windows (though the first few sets built still had the old style). This model is in Chuo-Sobu line colours (well colour):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48079944451_a085dd08d6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfEhpv)
Greenmax 205 series (Chuo-Sobu line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfEhpv) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

and is by GreenMax, the least big of the "Big Four" N scale manufacturers (the others being Kato, Tomix and MicroAce) which started out as a manufacturer of plastic self-assembly kits, including trains and structures, but have been doing RTR for quite a while now. This one is a bit of a rarity as it appears to have been a special production run for a specific retailer and it's basically a pre-assembled kit from ca. 20 years ago so is lacking modern amenities such as directional lighting. But it's not too bad as a representation, and saves me the trouble of sourcing a kit and building it myself (my modelling skills are such that I rely on being able to cover up modelling mistakes with strategic shrubbery, which won't work so well on actual trains). Kato also do a version of this but sets are rare and when available insanely expensive, which in part is due to the fact that the Chuo-Sobu line only ever had two 205 series sets, which were replacements for two sets which were written off after an accident.

For comparison, this is the Kato 205 series in Saikyo Line livery (model from ca. 1994, modified with replacement LED lighting, still missing destination blinds):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48086051842_00476a8a8a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ggczVm)
Kato 205 series (Saikyo Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2ggczVm) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The 205 series (ca. 1460 cars built total) was the last major JNR commuter design and can be found in both JR East and JR West areas, but is slowly being replaced and some of the sets have been sold on to Indonesia, where they operate in Jakarta.

Like the 201 series, there was a version of this for through-running with Tokyo Metro, the 207 series (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/207_series_%28JR_East%29), but this was an experimental set and only one was ever built (though it did last well over 20 years in operation).

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 28, 2019, 03:02:29 AM
Right, just got back from Tachikawa (the "kawa" in Takahachikawa") where a branch of the Tokyo Regional Immigration Bureau resides (at the end of a potholed road prone to turning into puddles at the slightest hint of rain, sandwiched beween a Self-Defence Force barracks and an MOT centre) and they've extended my Japanese N Gauge Purchasing Visa for a further 5 years, so the continuing existence of this thread is guaranteed.

So, in today's episode, we have passed that magic date in 1987 when JNR was privatised and the regional JR companies started going their own their own way, though production of JNR designs such as the 205 series continued for a few years.

This is a 209 series (are you beginning to see a pattern in the class numbers?) unique to JR East, first produced around 1994 and is the forefather of all JNR commuter stock produced since. The front end is radically redesigned, with a single wide pane of glass (presumably reflecting, hah, advances in glazing technology), the body is lightweight stressed aluminium (or something like that) and the whole thing is lighter, more energy efficient and recyclable (theoretically at least).

Being Japan, 1994 is a long time ago, and the original 209-0 series variant is becoming thin on the ground and eking out a living as special conversions, shortened hand-me-down variants in the provinces etc.; later variants can still be found in mainline service, though even these are being gradually cascaded outwards and downward. More on those later.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48136744896_e6da414b46_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gkFpcw)
Tomix 209 series (Nanbu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gkFpcw) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Model by Tomix, from ca. 2007, disappointingly directional lighting is not LED-based, which really needs rectifying for these kinds of modern destination panels. Line colour is that of the Nanbu Line, which runs between Tachikawa and Kawasaki. The latter is known outside Japan mainly for motorcycles, but it's actually a large residential/industrial/port city squeezed in between Tokyo and Yokohama, though it's the kind of place you pass through when travelling beween Tokyo and Yokohama or vice-versa without feeling the overwhelming urge to stop off there.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 28, 2019, 12:21:16 PM
The latter (Kawasaki) is known outside Japan mainly for motorcycles, but it's actually a large residential/industrial/port city squeezed in between Tokyo and Yokohama, though it's the kind of place you pass through when travelling beween Tokyo and Yokohama or vice-versa without feeling the overwhelming urge to stop off there.

Funnily enough I made the very same trip today.

Anyway, on the offchance anyone is still reading and not reeling from an overdose of Japanese commuter EMU information, here'a... 209-500 series in Chuo-Sobu Line colours:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48086342397_122ba2f140_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gge5hV)
MicroAce 209-500 series (Chuo-Sobu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gge5hV) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

You may notice it looks a little chubbier around the tumblehome than the previous 209... that is due to an increased proprortion of dairy products in the Japanese diet, err sorry, due to the fact that someone had the bright idea of increasing capacity by making the trains a little wider, which turns out to be practical as you don't need to increase the width of the whole body. This was actually planned for the successor series (E231) but due to delays in development it was decided to plonk the E231 body on the 209 series chassis, resulting in what we see here.

Model by MicroAce, a little older and not quite as good visually as the versions put out by Tomix and Kato, but available 2nd hand by the kilo for not much money (6 car set for less than the RRP of a modern Farish Mk1 kind of level), especially as the MicroAce mechanisms seem to develop the habit of SCREECHING LOUDLY after a decade or so, but they soon learn to purr smoothly after a brief visit to Railsquid's Workbench of Spares and Despair (the trick is to carefully oil the motor bearings, *and* the "O-rings" in which the worm gear rotates, and possibly clean out the Mysterious Fibres Wrapped Around The Turny Bits).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 28, 2019, 01:16:11 PM
My eyesight must be getting really bad.

I had trouble then with the paint jobs. ;)

It was the O rings that brought about the demise of the  Challenger space shuttle, by the way  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 28, 2019, 01:54:36 PM
It was the O rings that brought about the demise of the  Challenger space shuttle, by the way  :beers:

Fortunately these trains are powered by conventional low-voltage DC electricity and do not need to reach orbital velocity by setting fire to what are basically very large fireworks with parachutes.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 29, 2019, 01:39:54 AM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
    Many thanks Ian, nice to know about the prototype on which these excellent models are based   :thumbsup:
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 29, 2019, 03:35:07 AM

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48136744896_e6da414b46_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gkFpcw)
Tomix 209 series (Nanbu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gkFpcw) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Model by Tomix, from ca. 2007, disappointingly directional lighting is not LED-based, which really needs rectifying for these kinds of modern destination panels.

Not, alas, a replacement lighting unit yet, but third-party replacement stickers with a more realistic depiction of the coloured LED destination boards I chanced upon:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48148423481_5e2f0993a6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gmHfQr)Tomix 209 series (Nanbu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gmHfQr) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

As supplied by Tomix, they look like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48148395421_d86fedf9c5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gmH7uD)
Tomix 209 series (Nanbu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gmH7uD) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

which is somewhat unsatisfactory.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 29, 2019, 08:00:42 AM

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48126953242_eb0bb5d105.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gjPdtU)
left-side-hill-2019-06-25_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gjPdtU) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


Going back to layouty things for a moment, this Peco tunnel portal is reasonably prototypical for the original style of tunnel found on the Chuo Line, such as this abandoned one in this video here:

https://youtu.be/YRZplwg55BE?t=467 (https://youtu.be/YRZplwg55BE?t=467)

(video is documenting a section of tunnels on the Chuo Line which were abandoned in 1917 due to cracks and replaced by a new section of tunnel; section seen on the video is now in use as a wine cellar)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 29, 2019, 08:24:58 AM
So, fast-forwarding a century or so, the rake of excitingly brown coaches would, towards the end of its life, have been hauled by a locomotive in a colour neither brown nor black, specifically an EF64:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48072318783_549ec2c681_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2geZcyt)
MicroAce EF64 (EF64-42) (https://flic.kr/p/2geZcyt) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(...)
Unfortunately this locomotive as depicted is only a placeholder, for it bears the post-privatisation "JR" logo (and is also fitted with a train radio antenna, the stubby grey thing on the right of the cab roof, which puts it at some time in the 1980s) so is not prototypical for the carriages depicted, which lasted in some form until ca. 1975, so I am considering what options are available to obtain an early EF64 in prototypical form, as the options are suprisingly limited (Kato, who make the coaches, helpfully point out that an early EF64 version would be appropriate, but unhelpfully fail to actually make one; MicroAce do, but it is of an older model generation than the one depicted so not as well detailed).

For the sake of accuracy, I have since realised Kato did produce potentially suitable models, but last relased them in the early/mid 2000s and they're of the older style tooling and not much different from the MicroAce version since acquired.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on June 29, 2019, 12:00:05 PM
An old tunnel for a wine cellar - Ingenious use of scarce land!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 30, 2019, 03:50:58 AM
It occurred to me I might as well make use of the Peco tunnel "wings" (to use what is probably not the technical term) to defuse some scenic right-angles and generally give the impression they are there to hold the scenery up (very important in Japan as there is lots of steep scenery engaged in an aeon-spanning attempt to slide inexorably down the gravity well), though in a modelling context the scenery is holding the retaining walls in place, rather than vice-versa.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48156393941_6a7d783217_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gnq7ba)
left-side-hill-2019-06-30_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gnq7ba) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Bottles are holding the hair-pin curve in place while the glue dries.

No prizes for guessing the line identity of the train with the orange stripe, but can anyone come up with the series number?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 30, 2019, 06:47:10 AM
So, while we are waiting for the above adhesive to undergo a permanent viscosity transformation, time to pop up to the loft and break out the pack of emergency disposable chopsticks.

Why would one keep emergency disposable chopsticks in the loft? I hear you ask. Simple - plate tectonics. Or more precisely should any of the three (3) tectonic plates lurking deep beneath the layout decied to undergo a spontaneous release of frictional tension, there is an approximately 20% (according to Official Statistics) of an interruption to the water supply, and the chopsticks can be use to construct a cunning mechanism to extract humidity from the air. No sorry, that's my t-shirt (it's humid rainy season right now). The chopsticks are handy for hygenic purposes as there may be no water available for washing. We also have plastic cutlery of course, but that is less useful for my intended purpose, which (taking a gamble on tjhe continued absence of unexpected outbreaks of plate tectonicism) is to construct a rickety-looking framework upon which to support (removable) scenery while a complex(-ish) arrangement of running lines pass beneath.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48156858222_127e0cfc67_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gnsuc1)
chopstick-mountain-v2_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gnsuc1) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48156778096_deef5b83b6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gns5nw)
chopstick-mountain-v2_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gns5nw) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Once the initial structure has solidified somewhat, I will add cross-bracing for Additional Solidity™.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 30, 2019, 07:46:37 AM
Hope you didn't nick them from Torikizoku  ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on June 30, 2019, 08:52:19 AM
Splendid space frame technology in action.  Light and very strong.  Especially after you add the cross-bracing for Additional SolidityTM.

My few efforts at using chopsticks have certainly resulted in plate tectonics!  At least I avoided tie tectonics by always removing it when using chopsticks.

Best wishes.

John

PS Anent your earlier post, I've certainly heard the term, 'wing walls' used.  'Retaining walls' is probably the more commonly-used term.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 30, 2019, 04:41:30 PM
Additional Solidity™ added:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48160897786_5d04af6490_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gnPc1E)
chopstick-mountain-v2_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2gnPc1E) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

A couple of buildings placed for effect; local Elvensafety Orders are in place to prevent access other than by authorized personnel with appropriate safety equipment.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48160897941_c22682eb84_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gnPc4k)
chopstick-mountain-v2_04 (https://flic.kr/p/2gnPc4k) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 30, 2019, 04:56:02 PM
Hope you didn't nick them from Torikizoku  ;)

Nah, I buy 'em in bulk down me local Don Quijote (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quijote_%28store%29).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48161039501_c445748369.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gnPV92)
chopsticks (https://flic.kr/p/2gnPV92) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Railwaygun on June 30, 2019, 08:55:54 PM
anyone interested in wooden chopsticks should track down their local Chinese/japanese  supermarket

this is easier in London...
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: weave on June 30, 2019, 09:11:18 PM
I don't tell some of my friends that I'm interested in model railways let alone chopsticks, imagine the wonderment and then the P taking :D.

Seriously though, a good idea. I'm always acquiring (shall we say) coffee stirrers from anywhere I can but chopsticks sound like a useful addition to the scenery box.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 01, 2019, 12:00:52 AM
anyone interested in wooden chopsticks should track down their local Chinese/japanese  supermarket

this is easier in London...

Or Birmingham or Manchester: https://www.wingyip.com/nsearch/?q=chopsticks (https://www.wingyip.com/nsearch/?q=chopsticks)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Snowwolflair on July 01, 2019, 12:07:03 AM
anyone interested in wooden chopsticks should track down their local Chinese/japanese  supermarket

this is easier in London...

Or Birmingham or Manchester: https://www.wingyip.com/nsearch/?q=chopsticks (https://www.wingyip.com/nsearch/?q=chopsticks)

Wing Yip in Wembley has a very good restaurant upstairs.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 01, 2019, 02:14:57 AM
I don't tell some of my friends that I'm interested in model railways let alone chopsticks, imagine the wonderment and then the P taking :D.

Seriously though, a good idea. I'm always acquiring (shall we say) coffee stirrers from anywhere I can but chopsticks sound like a useful addition to the scenery box.


I have a Strategic Acquired Coffee Stirrer Reserve of course, the advantage of chopsticks is that they have a basically square cross-section and can be used for vertical supports.

This my first use of the method, about 18 months ago, also incorporating coffee stirrers and an ice lolly stick:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4763/39674902492_818262ccbc_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23rWffY)
tunnel-hill-1 (https://flic.kr/p/23rWffY) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Very robust.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on July 01, 2019, 09:43:18 AM
I don't tell some of my friends that I'm interested in model railways let alone chopsticks, imagine the wonderment and then the P taking :D.

Seriously though, a good idea. I'm always acquiring (shall we say) coffee stirrers from anywhere I can but chopsticks sound like a useful addition to the scenery box.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Me too; for the coffee stirrers.  These and ice-lollipop sticks appear to have endless model railway uses.  And the little jars for 'Tiptree' marmalade and jam in better-quality eating establishments such as those at Ravenglass and Dalegarth.

But, I adopt a different approach about my interest in railways, big and small.  I tell people.  Most, particularly ladies, are fairly interested and often ask to see a photograph.  Friends that know about one's modelling interests can be a super source of materials and assistance.  Conversely, modellers often have tools (and the skills) to help people.  Repairing spectacles' frames and putting little batteries in things appear to be my specialities.  And soldering electrical things, various!

Best wishes.

John

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 03, 2019, 09:02:40 AM
I must admit that since starting this whole playing-with-trains business, I have acquired a bunch of tools and skills which come in handy in other contexts.

Project Chopstick Mountain is progressing in a slow-but-steady fashion, no photos of that, but here's another train, the (in)famous SquidCar:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48186447462_209f6ff671_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gq593j)
MicroAce KiHa 40 (KiHa 40-807) (https://flic.kr/p/2gq593j) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This is a KiHa 40-700 series diesel railcar, a JNR era design, model by MicroAce, the prototype ran on the northerly island of Hokkaido. Where it does get a little on the chilly side, so one common feature of JNR-era stock for Hokkaido was smaller, double-glazed windows for extra insulation.

In case you were wondering, this is not a fictitious livery but actually existed in the late 1990s (not sure for how long), here's a video including this and the companion Crab and Fox railcars:



(Direct link to video in case it doesn't display for any reason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj-M0qIB8Vw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj-M0qIB8Vw) )
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on July 03, 2019, 09:27:15 AM
Many thanks for the great photograph.

I enjoyed that film.  The location kind of reminded me of Birmingham New Street for some reason.

...here's another train, the (in)famous SquidCar:...

Did you name yourself for the Forum after this attractive train?  The others were nice as well.  I think that liveries like these bring a bit of fun and variety to the modern railway.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Innovationgame on July 03, 2019, 09:49:44 AM
I've posted it in YouTube using the text:

(youtube)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj-M0qIB8Vw(/youtube)

The only thing you need to change is the round brackets around 'YouTube' to square brackets.  I have had to use the round brackets so you could see the text.

Here's the result:



Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 03, 2019, 12:19:04 PM
Oh, is that the correct incantation? It works for me if I put the video ID only (not the whole link) between the tags. I can never remember which forums work which way...
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 03, 2019, 01:11:26 PM
Many thanks for the great photograph.

I enjoyed that film.  The location kind of reminded me of Birmingham New Street for some reason.

One of the downsides of Japan is that there are very few stations of particular architectural value, so quite a few look like Birmingham New Street, but more crowded and much more efficient.

...here's another train, the (in)famous SquidCar:...

Did you name yourself for the Forum after this attractive train?  The others were nice as well.  I think that liveries like these bring a bit of fun and variety to the modern railway.

The other way round, I have a semi-random system of monikers I use for various forums to keep my various online identities separate and for whatever reason ended up with this one for trains. Then someone on another forum helpfully pointed out the existence of this train, and I was duty-bound to acquire it.

I also have crabs (ooh err Matron), this one came with a set of unpowered dummy cars in a more conventional livery.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48187706012_56a792f273_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gqbAas)
MicroAce KiHa 40 (https://flic.kr/p/2gqbAas) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48187648536_38c3b3e3f9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gqbi5u)
MicroAce KiHa 40 (https://flic.kr/p/2gqbi5u) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

They do make for a nice splash of colour; one thing I like about Japanese railways is for the most part, even in these modern times, is that they mostly [1] stick to liveries suitable for trains, not something a "designer" came up with while nursing a hangover, but there's always room for some oddball stuff.

[1] we won't mention the Hello Kitty or Mickey Mouse trains they have in western Japan, but they're a bit funny out that way
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Milton Rail on July 04, 2019, 06:14:33 AM
Railsquid san - I've lost track of how many locos you must have! Always new photos! What's your guess?

The number of locos (or more specifically powered stock) can be expressed as the "Hobby Constant", a hot topic of advanced mathematical research and which represents a paradoxical number which can never be precisely defined yet which is simultaneously Not Enough and Too Many, but which is increasing monotonically. In accordance with Einstein's little-known Theory of Domestic Relativity the size and rate of change appears different depending on the viewpoint of the observer and their role in the household (the "not another bloody train" phenomenon).

TV channel "Dave" have a competition for the best one liner at the Edinburgh Fringe (invariable won by Tim Vine and worth a google search for previous years top 10's) .... if the forum were to have a similar most humorous post competition .... this one from Ian would most definitely be up there in my book! love it  :smiley-laughing: 
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Milton Rail on July 04, 2019, 07:23:47 AM
I don't tell some of my friends that I'm interested in model railways let alone chopsticks, imagine the wonderment and then the P taking :D.

Seriously though, a good idea. I'm always acquiring (shall we say) coffee stirrers from anywhere I can but chopsticks sound like a useful addition to the scenery box.

Cheers weave  :beers:

I am with you there Chris, Mrs MR can often be seen rolling her eyes when we go to places that have a free dispensery of essential N gauge modelling materials at their beverage finishing stations (why call it a station if it is not related to railway modelling?) .... often with a follow up question of "why do you need 47 wooden coffee stirrers when you drink black americano with no sugar.....?"   I usually decline to answer on the basis that, as clever as she is,  if she had to ask that question, then no way will she follow the logic to understand the answer ...

After a year or more of following the fascinating story of Takahachikawa, we recently had the same "debate" in YO! Sushi   :angel:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Milton Rail on July 04, 2019, 07:31:36 AM
Just caught back up with your thread again after a few weeks absence (hence the recent random quotes) ... great progress and great content, there is a lot to learn from that part of the world - thanks for all the updates & seemingly never ending supply of different trains
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 04, 2019, 08:01:26 AM
I am with you there Chris, Mrs MR can often be seen rolling her eyes when we go to places that have a free dispensery of essential N gauge modelling materials at their beverage finishing stations (why call it a station if it is not related to railway modelling?) .... often with a follow up question of "why do you need 47 wooden coffee stirrers when you drink black americano with no sugar.....?"   I usually decline to answer on the basis that, as clever as she is,  if she had to ask that question, then no way will she follow the logic to understand the answer ...

Mrs Railsquid, has on occasion been known to hand me a random object with the suggestion it might be useful for my "N gauge" (or "enu geiji", which,  come to think of it, is commonly used as a euphemism for "model railway"). On the other hand she has been bemused to see me fish various items (not fish!) out of the bin for the same reason.

Just caught back up with your thread again after a few weeks absence (hence the recent random quotes) ... great progress and great content, there is a lot to learn from that part of the world - thanks for all the updates & seemingly never ending supply of different trains

Plenty more trains to come!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on July 04, 2019, 08:15:57 AM
… Plenty more trains to come!

Excellent!

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: port perran on July 04, 2019, 08:37:16 AM
Similarly, Mrs PP frequently hands me bits and bobs which just might be useful.
Plus, we often pick up ofds and ends in the street which come in handy as wagon loads.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 04, 2019, 09:07:01 AM
I get stuff thrown at me  :worried:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 04, 2019, 01:21:39 PM
… Plenty more trains to come!

Excellent!

Aaargh, I seem to be suffering from an overdose of rolling stock. Is there a doctor in the house?

Why yes, Doctor Yellow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Yellow)!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48195996611_125e04a34e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gqV5EP)
Kato 700 series "Dr Yellow" (https://flic.kr/p/2gqV5EP) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48195996756_34d056acc5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gqV5Hj)
Kato 700 series "Dr Yellow" (https://flic.kr/p/2gqV5Hj) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

You'll just have to suspend disbelief and assume this is a special kind of dual-gauge, dual-voltage Shinkansen which can operate on the Chuo Line's 1500v DC Cape Gauge system (rather than the entirely separate standard gauge 20Kv AC Shinkansen network).

Now, while I'm not a fan of the newer Shinkansens (Doctor Yellow is based off the 700 series, the mainstay of the line between Tokyo and Osaka), the good doctor does have a long pointy nose which is useful for clearance testing):
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48196001266_842efb5619_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gqV745)
tunnel-clearance-testing-2019-07-04 (https://flic.kr/p/2gqV745) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

though no doubt the little people inside in the catenary observation pods are wondering what happened to all the overhead wires.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: keithbythe sea on July 04, 2019, 02:04:10 PM
Oooo that's not a subtle colour.  8)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 04, 2019, 04:03:27 PM
It certainly stands out, and is highly attractive for small children, particularly boys, and you can purchase a whole plethora of Doctor Yellow merchandise (at the last count the Squidlet has a pair of Doctor Yellow socks, a Doctor Yellow badge, a Doctor Yellow spoon and a Doctor Yellow case for his Plarail toys, and I've even seen a pair of Doctor Yellow trainers in the wild).

Meanwhile I got sick of looking at the half-finished hairpin bend and called the plasterers in:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48197103932_fe9fefc74a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gr1KQy)
hairpin-bend-2019-07-04_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gr1KQy) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

A lick of paint:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48197104077_18e4943fe7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gr1KT4)
hairpin-bend-2019-07-04_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gr1KT4) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

A sprinkle of scatter:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48197104217_c5ee503a8c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gr1KVt)
hairpin-bend-2019-07-04_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2gr1KVt) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

and it's now about 2/3rds finished. Need to add a bunch of fecund shrubbery as typical of Japan, crash barriers and road signs, and maybe repaint the road a more uniform colour.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 04, 2019, 11:16:51 PM
Looking great, but I'd definitely be painting the road, Ian.  :thumbsup:

I think I am probably pleased I didn't have to visit the doctor on my trip to Osaka....  ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 06, 2019, 02:51:38 PM
So, in today's Broadcast from the Mythical Land of Rulewonia, we stick with the yellow theme and feast our eyes upon this later work from the House of Lima, which compared to their British N gauge efforts is actually not too bad, moreover if I recall correctly no-one else has got round to making a model of one of these in N gauge. If you close your eyes slightly you can maybe imagine that Donald Duck (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB_Class_403) has left his usual stomping grounds in the Frankfurt/Main area and is on an excursion to the very southern part of Germany.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48212336181_70497eaf59_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gsmPRx)
Lima BR403 "Lufthansa Airport Express (https://flic.kr/p/2gsmPRx) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The reason I have one is because it featured in the 1983 or 1984 Lima catalogue for some reason and I was intrigued by its foreign exoticness so was unable to resist acquiring one when the opportunity presented itself.

Mechanically, it looks like it has a horizontally-mounted can motor (I haven't taken it apart yet but it's visible through the windows) driving one bogie, but suffers from the classic Lima "pickups on the non-driving bogie only" flaw. But on the whole it's quite "driveable". It even has directional lighting, provided the direction is the one where the motor car is leading (the other end lacks electrical pickups).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 06, 2019, 04:46:39 PM
 :hellosign: looking good Ian, thanks for sharing
  regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 06, 2019, 05:59:07 PM
I’ve always liked those. There’s a bit of “Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea” about them, or should I put the top back on the bottle?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 07, 2019, 12:25:48 AM
For a Lima model, it's not too bad, as you say.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 07, 2019, 01:38:27 AM
A scene from a 1990s wireframe screensaver?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48216894636_ae0d3a7c66_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gsLbVA)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-07_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gsLbVA) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

I think the road can snake upwards like this, to disappear in the background behind some buildings:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48216940052_394c6a06fa_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gsLqqC)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-07_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gsLqqC) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48216894811_e98a160fd6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gsLbYB)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-07_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2gsLbYB) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 07, 2019, 03:04:12 AM
Will the trackwork be accessible?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 07, 2019, 03:28:41 AM
Will the trackwork be accessible?

I am a Squid of few principles, but one of them is to make all scenery removable, a) for ease of construction/modification, and b) access to any tracks which happen to be running below.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1733/28830601798_6140fb5908_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KVEntm)
Some scenery removed (https://flic.kr/p/KVEntm) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(Though I had to construct the chopstick framework in-situ, which was fun because the rear left corner is about 100cm from the nearest layout edge, but now it's reasonably stable I can remove it and continue work in the comfort of my own workbench  :beers: )

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 07, 2019, 06:10:43 AM
A quick trip down Recent Memory Lane:

Well then, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, gather round the internet for the next exciting installment of Railsquid's Obscure Japanese Trains:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48103085458_a834490b1c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghGTqo)
Kato 115-2000 series (Minobu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghGTqo) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

What's that, you say? It's the same one as yesterday? Most certainly not. Pay attention and count the number of passenger doors on each side, please. That's right - 3 sets of doors, whereas yesterday's train only had two sets.

That's because this is a 115 series (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/115_series) (2000 subclass), one variant of a fairly standard JNR design of EMU mainly for outer urban/regional stopping services on main/main-ish lines, so in contrast to urban commuter stock has 3 instead of 4 sets of doors, slightly more comfortable seating and toilet facilities.

This set was built in 1981 for the Minobu Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minobu_Line), located a fair way to the west of Tokyo "behind" Mt. Fuji, and which links the Tokaido main line to the Chuo line (hence my interest).

Well look what just arrived at Chez Railsquid: a Minobu Line 115-2000 series, this time in a fetching brown livery.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48218303686_5b368f8f40_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gsTpMy)
Tomix 115-2000 series (Minobu Line, brown) (https://flic.kr/p/2gsTpMy) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


Those of you who spend much time examining the roofs of Japanese trains will conclude that this is not some very old prototype, as compared to the red version above, the quantity of roof gubbins has grown somewhat, and those large boxy units are a sure sign that air-conditioning has been installed, for it is 1997, and while I'm not sure at what point between 1981 and that year the modification took place (most likely during the 1990s), 1997 was the 70th anniversary of the opening of the Minobu Line and the unit was painted in retro brown as part of the celebratory events.

I took a bit of a gamble on this one because the description implied the unit had been subject to some abuse resulting in it looking like it had been dragged on its side over ballast after having the roof doused in glue or something, but I think that was just the seller being over-honest as while not in 100% mint condition, it's in acceptable condition for a 20-year old 2nd hand model.

In modelling terms this is slightly more advanced than the Kato model previously shown, as the roof gubbins consists of separate parts, whereas on the somewhat older Kato model they're part of the roof moulding.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 07, 2019, 08:37:56 AM
The Squidlet, bless his little Doctor Yellow socks, has been in bed with a fever for most of the day, leaving me largely free to pootle about, which I don't get much chance to do usually (it's more a case of "Squidlet is out of the house! All systems go for two hours doing Stuff!").

Therefore I have pootled a hole in the shelf backscene board, which I really should mount higher up but that would involve dismantling half the room so it's easier to cut a hole in it to make space for the disposable chopsticks to rest upon without fouling the outer loop, which runs very close to the wall here.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48219052771_42b1594b0a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gsXfsP)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-07_06 (https://flic.kr/p/2gsXfsP) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Fortuitously I had the foresight to make the backscene boards removable, which made the whole operation feasible.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on July 07, 2019, 09:32:56 AM
I am a Squid of few principles, but one of them is to make all scenery removable, a) for ease of construction/modification, and b) access to any tracks which happen to be running below.

I agree completely.  Whilst I normally stick firmly to the principle of shifting principles; this is one principle that I cannot see myself changing.  It's the principal principle.

Many thanks, Ian, for these terrific pictures and informative posts.  I wonder if the disposable chopstick industry is aware of the wider utility of its product.

I hope the Squidlet will be keeping better very soon.

Thanks again and all best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 07, 2019, 09:39:25 AM
Yeah, all the best to Squidlet!

Nothing Doc Yellow can't cure, or Thomas, for that matter.  :thumbsup:

Leave Hello Kitty out of it, though  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 07, 2019, 03:42:55 PM
"Hello Kitty" is felinae non-grata in this household.

The Squidlet made a speedy recovery, many thanks, just in time for tea, but refused to watch Thomas as it appears to be an episode he remembers which involves some sort of crash, so he spent some quality time devoted to his latest hobby, drawing sketches of drainage systems with monsters in them. Don't ask (though if anyone would like a personalised sketch of a drainage system with monsters or optionally a panda to decorate their wall, we are disposing of them by the dozen at the moment).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48221699886_1128a6e47e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gtbPmJ)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-07_07 (https://flic.kr/p/2gtbPmJ) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Post-bedtime the Chopstick Men emerged from their hideyhole (sounds like a story to frighten small children with), or rather I chopped up some more chopsticks and also some coffee stirrers (which have the advantage of being quite flat compared to chopsticks) for the next construction stage. The stick of a recently consumed lollypop was also integrated into the structure.

Once this lot has dried, I'll add another round of bracing so the whole caboodle can be lifted off the layout for further work and fine tuning, before adding any actual scenery.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 07, 2019, 07:31:45 PM
 :hellosign:.  :greatpicturessign:
   Thanks Ian for latest updates of your inspirational scenery construction, all looking superb & pleased Squidlet is feeling good.  :thumbsup:
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Railwaygun on July 08, 2019, 02:59:33 PM
"Hello Kitty" is felinae non-grata in this household.

The Squidlet made a speedy recovery, many thanks, just in time for tea, but refused to watch Thomas as it appears to be an episode he remembers which involves some sort of crash, so he spent some quality time devoted to his latest hobby, drawing sketches of drainage systems with monsters in them. Don't ask (though if anyone would like a personalised sketch of a drainage system with monsters or optionally a panda to decorate their wall, we are disposing of them by the dozen at the moment).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48221699886_1128a6e47e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gtbPmJ)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-07_07 (https://flic.kr/p/2gtbPmJ) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Post-bedtime the Chopstick Men emerged from their hideyhole (sounds like a story to frighten small children with), or rather I chopped up some more chopsticks and also some coffee stirrers (which have the advantage of being quite flat compared to chopsticks) for the next construction stage. The stick of a recently consumed lollypop was also integrated into the structure.

Once this lot has dried, I'll add another round of bracing so the whole caboodle can be lifted off the layout for further work and fine tuning, before adding any actual scenery.

looks like a job for Mr Hot-glue gun??
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 10, 2019, 01:07:27 PM
The structure needs to be assembled in-situ while leaning over the layout, and Mr Hot-Glue Gun would be poorly suited for most of the joins needed, which are made by dipping the ends of the chopsticks into glue and carefully sliding them into place. Fortunately the PVA-like glue I use dries quite quickly.

Frame almost there now, apart from a couple of bits right at the back which should be nice and easy now the rest is nice and stable.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48248567616_fe8466b1e0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gvywcs)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-10_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gvywcs) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48248567846_5eaaf3c7f1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gvywgq)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-10_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gvywgq) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: keithbythe sea on July 10, 2019, 01:52:11 PM
Nice looking space frame, and very appropriate for an earthquake zone.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Railwaygun on July 10, 2019, 03:10:43 PM
Does anyone remember playing with Pickastix?( remove one, and they all fall down!)

Let’s hope there are no local earthquakes!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 11, 2019, 03:33:29 AM
To stop the Pickastix (the name rings a bell) from falling down, try gluing them together :D

The entire structure removed from the layout, just because I can  :D :D

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48253936641_d3b3b0fb25_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gw33dR)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-11_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gw33dR) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

I will replace it pending scenic work, as it is nice and safe on that end of the layout, which is nestling on an IKEA Ivar shelf, which during the big 2011 earthquake proved remarkably stable, despite not being attached to anything other than the floor, and that only by gravity/friction.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on July 11, 2019, 08:56:48 AM
Absolutely brilliant!  I built a little tunnel on my layout using this type of construction but this is so much better.

Great stuff.

Best wishes

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 11, 2019, 12:28:40 PM
In case anyone has any doubts about the structural viability of this structure:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48256452457_98e5b76581_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gwfW5Z)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-11_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gwfW5Z) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Do please excuse the mess creative chaos.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 11, 2019, 01:02:39 PM
Hope that doesn't belong to Mrs Railsquid!  ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: weave on July 11, 2019, 08:04:07 PM
Sure that's not the squidlet's foam one which he batters daddy with when he lies?  :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 12, 2019, 02:55:36 AM
"Hello Kitty" is felinae non-grata in this household.


Well unfortunately, I feel obligated to show you what has turned up at a shopping centre a mere kilometre from Chez Bealman......

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/255-110719050554-79310110.jpeg)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 12, 2019, 03:00:16 AM
You are doomed, unless some of the local fauna can take care of it.

Meanwhile, a strangely fractal landscape.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48261749836_1ebc6de217_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gwJ5P7)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-12_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gwJ5P7) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Innovationgame on July 12, 2019, 06:40:55 AM
In Japan, that can only be plate techtonics!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 12, 2019, 07:16:42 AM
I usedtp play the game Rescue on Fractalus on my Commodore64 computer  ;D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: GreyWolf on July 12, 2019, 07:38:37 AM
Quote from: Bealman
... on my Commodore64 computer  ;D

We had a Spectrum+ set up in the kitchen of our student flat running "Knight Lore" or "Atic Atac"! Great Days!
(We even went to classes ... sometimes)

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 12, 2019, 09:13:03 AM
I tried a few of the old Speccy games in an emulator a while back and was amazed to find I could still remember most of the keys and movements without thinking about it.

Meanwhile, a brown study:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48263280111_dddcc4c868_z.jpg)
(https://flic.kr/p/2gwRVHa)left-scenic-area-2019-07-12_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gwRVHa) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr[/i]
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 12, 2019, 02:05:53 PM
View along the layout now looks like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48264959597_2b3e25cdba_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gx1wXP)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-12_04 (https://flic.kr/p/2gx1wXP) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Excuse the East German interlopers on the left.

On the right, a train I believe we have not seen before.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 12, 2019, 02:10:01 PM
I'm too busy looking at the angle of that ryokan/onsen on top of the hill which for sure would be the one Mrs Bealman would want to go to  :worried:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 12, 2019, 02:12:37 PM
I'm sure structural rectification work will be carried out before it opens to tourists.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on July 12, 2019, 02:52:46 PM
...Meanwhile, a brown study...

"I [Dr Watson] fell into a brown study."

Can't remember which short story.  One of the early ones, I think.

Great pictures; thank you.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 12, 2019, 02:58:46 PM
Meanwhile, about that new train:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48263347811_29a61a339c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gwSgQp)
Tomytec Minobu Line train (https://flic.kr/p/2gwSgQp) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Assiduous takers of notes can be forgiven for speculating that it might be a variant of the 115 series, which we have seen several times previously.

For it looks very much like a 115 series, but is in fact one of these in disguise:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1802/42497840235_8f0efaa275_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27Koxin)
Tomix 72/73 series (https://flic.kr/p/27Koxin) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


"One of these" being a 72 series EMU, which is a late wartime austerity design, heavily modified post-war as they were made out of whatever was available and were literally death traps in their original form (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakuragich%C5%8D_train_fire) (63 series (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/63_series)). That class has a long and complex history which we can touch upon at a later point in time (or points in time, believe me it is long and complex), but anyway, during the later 1970s JNR, like many nationalised railway companies, was suffering from the usual fundamental shifts of traffic away from rail and onto the roads and into the air, and was a bit short of cash, but at the same time really needed to present some slightly less decrepit stock to the passengers still left, and hit upon the wizard wheeze of taking some old but strill serviceable stock and slapping shiny new bodies on the chassis (I believe the British Rail Southern Region and predecessors did that kind of thing too), resulting in this modern-looking 62 series (https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/model-railways/manufacturers/tomytec/jnr-62-series-minobu-line.html).

However the improved passenger accommodation didn't help with the below-floor whiney-movey bits, which were approaching the end of their service life, and these lasted less than a decade in service before being replaced by the 115-2000 series previously seen.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 12, 2019, 03:22:51 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
  Thanks Ian, another most interesting & informative update.  :thumbsup:
   regards Derek
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 15, 2019, 02:36:06 AM
We recently saw an example of a retro brown livery (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg577363#msg577363) - here's another one:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48281581641_2062b46a96_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gytJ7M)
Tomix DE10 (DE10 1705) (https://flic.kr/p/2gytJ7M) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


This is a DE10 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JNR_Class_DE10), which astute takers of notes will recognise as a diesel (in this case diesel-hydraulic) with 5 (five) powered axles, in this case Co-Bo. 700+ examples were built, as a light mixed-usage class, everything from shunting to trip freight working to branch line trains. Quite a few are still around as they are Really Useful Little Locos.

This model represents DE10 1705, which was repainted in 1988 (just after the privatization of JNR) into this retro-fictitious JNR brown livery (along with a couple of other locos), and has run about like that ever since, though apparently it was out of service at one point for a few years. Here it is in 2016:



(Youtube direct link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOjV0RXt0ME (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOjV0RXt0ME) )

This model is by Tomix and was a very cheap auction sub-acquisition, as I was after something else but this one was also available from the same bidder at a low starting price with no bids. Unfortunately the very shiny as-new state caused me to assume it was a more recent model, but it turned out to be from 1988 or thereabouts too, and has Tomix's infamous "spring worm" drive mechanism which is fundamentally noisy. Some fettling (well basically dumping a large amount of grease into the spring worm shaft) has quietened it down from "painfully noisy" to merely "quite noisy". Otherwise a very reliable runner and will make a good "layout loco".
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on July 15, 2019, 09:01:43 AM
… a diesel (in this case diesel-hydraulic) with 5 (five) powered axles, in this case Co-Bo. 700+ examples were built, as a light mixed-usage class, everything from shunting to trip freight working to branch line trains. Quite a few are still around as they are Really Useful Little Locos...

Clearly vastly more successful than the British effort at the same axle arrangement, albeit diesel-electric.  I'm guessing the heavy bits are below the long bonnet and the three axle bogie evens out axle loading and also keeps overall axle loading below a specified figure.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 15, 2019, 12:43:07 PM
… a diesel (in this case diesel-hydraulic) with 5 (five) powered axles, in this case Co-Bo. 700+ examples were built, as a light mixed-usage class, everything from shunting to trip freight working to branch line trains. Quite a few are still around as they are Really Useful Little Locos...

I'm guessing the heavy bits are below the long bonnet and the three axle bogie evens out axle loading and also keeps overall axle loading below a specified figure.

Indeed, makes it able to serve a wider selection of lines. There are quite a few classes with "odd" wheel arrangements for similar reasons (e.g. Bo-1-Bo and Bo-2-Bo), though I suspect it's less of an issue these days as many lines will have been upgraded (and/or are simply not server by loco-hauled traffic any more :( ).

We will, at some point, see some examples related to the above directly relevant to Takahachikawa (watch this space and all that).

Clearly vastly more successful than the British effort at the same axle arrangement, albeit diesel-electric.

Japan also had at least one early diesel class which turned out to be a dud, not local to the Takahachikawa area but I have one floating around somewhere in the Box, one day its turn will come.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 16, 2019, 03:10:07 PM
In today's episode, we stay with the "brown" theme (but with some freight for a change) this time rummaging in the box for the genuine article:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48298854097_c3b73415aa_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gA1fBK)
Kato ED16 (ED16-3) (https://flic.kr/p/2gA1fBK) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This is an ED16 (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9B%BD%E9%89%84ED16%E5%BD%A2%E9%9B%BB%E6%B0%97%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E8%BB%8A) by Kato, you will of course by now recognise it as an electric loco (the pantographs on the roof are a dead giveaway) with four powered axles, and two leading (trailing) axles making it 2-Bo-Bo-2.
As is so often the case with Japanese "RTR" models, "some self-assembly required":

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48298854247_3e08052dc0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gA1fEk)
Kato ED16 (ED16-3) (https://flic.kr/p/2gA1fEk) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

With this one it's just a case of choosing and fitting the number and maker plates:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48298739356_b6878da236_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzZEvs)
Kato ED16 (ED16-3) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzZEvs) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

so was fairly straightforward for a change (in more extreme cases one ends up getting the pin vise out and drilling holes into the roof), with the plates being a nice push-fit (no glue required).

Side note, as the subject of cutting mats came up on another thread (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=38281.msg578913#msg578913):  this is my No. 3 mat, the newest one reserved exclusively for working on the actual trains.

Now, why do I "need" this particular loco? Well the class of 18 was strongly associated with the Chuo Line in the Tokyo area for most of their working lives, which were quite long, as the class was produced in the mid 1930s and only finally retired in 1984. @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) may be interested to know they are a smaller variant of the EF52 in the Kyoto museum.

The main reason for their longevity was the Ōme Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8Cme_Line), which is effectively a branch line of the Chuo Line snaking up into the mountains west of Tokyo, at the end of which was (and possibly still is) a limestone quarry, and as a long snaking mountainous branch line with low axle load limits, these locomotives were hard to replace, until the line was finally upgraded to be able to take more modern, heavier ones.

The wagons, in case anyone is interested, are these:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48270751261_81a00b45a2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gxwdC6)
MicroAce HoKi 2500 (https://flic.kr/p/2gxwdC6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


constructed in the 1960s and which lasted in service until the end of freight operations on the Ōme Line in 1998. I am pretty sure I remember seeing these wagons still running, back when I was a student.

Happily the latter days of ED16 working came about around the time consumer video cameras became available, so there's a bit of footage available like this:



direct link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BuaGs_uOPs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BuaGs_uOPs)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 16, 2019, 11:59:08 PM
They're nice shots in that video. The photographer seemed to know what they were doing.

Good to see the Japanese equivalent of a guard's van on the end of each train.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 17, 2019, 02:20:20 PM
Ah yes, guard's vans. Just like in the UK, they were common until the mid-1980s then disappeared quickly, apart from for special uses.

Meanwhile, running light-loco we see another Blast from the Brown Past, this time one of the early "modern" locos, an ED61 (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9B%BD%E9%89%84ED61%E5%BD%A2%E9%9B%BB%E6%B0%97%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E8%BB%8A):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48306946991_481d041be3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gAHJmp)
Tomix ED61 (ED61-11) (https://flic.kr/p/2gAHJmp) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Freshly out of the "applying the fiddly bits" workshop, only 2 fiddly bits lost to posterity (fortunately Tomix provides spares).

Well you know the drill, it's electric and has 4 powered axles, and being a "modern" one is bereft of unpowered axles (at this point in their history at least) so is a Bo-Bo.

This class of 18 was built in 1958/1959 specifically for freight services on the Chuo Line and were designed with regenerative braking, which however wasn't too successful. Often working in pairs, they lasted until the mid 1970s when they were transferred to the Iida Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iida_Line), for which they were rebuilt as class ED62 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JNR_Class_ED62) and received an additional non-powered axle in the middle for weight reasons.

I have yet to find colour pictures of these in their original brown livery (they were later repainted to blue). Last picture on this page shows one in splendid black-and-white:

http://home.a00.itscom.net/yosan/densya/omiya/newpage2.html (http://home.a00.itscom.net/yosan/densya/omiya/newpage2.html)

You can tell it's brown because the blue ones have a brighter "warning panel" on the cab ends.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on July 17, 2019, 10:58:02 PM

Here's the result:



The Japanese text at the top of the image reads "Kiha 40 painting" - which even in translation doesn't mean anything to me yet - @Railsquid san - explain!

I think it is reminiscent of Sponge Bob Square Pants the cartoon but that might be just me....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj-M0qIB8Vw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj-M0qIB8Vw)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 17, 2019, 11:27:06 PM

Here's the result:



The Japanese text at the top of the image reads "Kiha 40 painting" - which even in translation doesn't mean anything to me yet - @Railsquid san - explain!

"Kiha 40 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KiHa_40_series)" is the type of train, and "ペインティング車" is "painted train", which denotes a train in a special livery like this.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 19, 2019, 03:56:03 PM
A while back we saw this very early Tomix ("Made by Bachmann in Hong Kong") ED75 Bo-Bo 20Kv AC loco (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg574140;topicseen#msg574140):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48080000312_a57d2bfd9b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfEz1C)
Tomy ED75 (ED75 513) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfEz1C) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This is a successor model, made by Tomix in Japan, and a world apart in terms of quality:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48320109966_cefeeb201d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gBTcff)
Tomix ED75 (ED75-1015) (https://flic.kr/p/2gBTcff) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

I'm not exactly sure when this model was produced, probably mid-late 1980s. While it looks a lot better, compared to contemporary models, there's no attempt to even hint at the cab interior, which is walled off by a grey plastic part which conceals the lighting unit and chassis block. The tail lights are part of the main body moulding (Japanese N gauge locomotives rarely have working tail lights, but modern models at least have them as separate parts). Interestingly there's no attempt to represent the shunter grab handles, which in earlier models are usually done as vertical lines in the moulding, in modern models as separate parts; and there's no coupling release lever, but those didn't get modelled until much more recently.

Mechanism is Tomix's (infamous) worm gear drive, on this model noisy but not excessively so. Otherwise running quality is pretty good, despite the short wheelbase it runs smoothly over pointwork.

The (or a) previous owner seems to have weathered it slightly, but not attached any of the provided number plates, which I have rectified and given it the number EF75 1015; the prototype lasted in service until 2012, see e.g.:

http://photozou.jp/photo/show/1619862/118817925 (http://photozou.jp/photo/show/1619862/118817925)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 20, 2019, 12:00:41 AM
Not just a world apart, light years!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 20, 2019, 02:27:27 AM
A couple of other features not present on more recent models are:
- seperate whistle / emergency smoke flare parts (both mounted on the cab roof at each end, on this model part of the main body moulding)
- glazing for the body side windows

Also the number plates are thicker, the ones on the side protude from the body; not really noticeable in the photo, but I had to check against other pictures of this model to be sure I hadn't made a mistake.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, this is Takao Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takao_Station_%28Tokyo%29), the "Taka" in "Takahachikawa":

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48295885696_2b21866493_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzK3dq)
takao-station-2019-07-15a (https://flic.kr/p/2gzK3dq) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48295885431_0e96b13b44_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzK38R)
takao-station-2019-07-15c (https://flic.kr/p/2gzK38R) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


This is the western edge of the Kanto Plain, after that it's all hills, so is a natural terminus for Chuo Line suburban services. Some do continue west, including onto the private Fujikyu line down towards Mt Fuji, but mainly this is the transition point between suburban and regional trains.

The elevated line just visible on the left is part of the private Keio network (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei%C5%8D_Takao_Line).

View looking east, back towards Tokyo:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48295885556_df8ce6fd5a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzK3b1)
takao-station-2019-07-15b (https://flic.kr/p/2gzK3b1) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The two trains in the platform are Chuo Line E233s, which we have seen previously; on the right you can see a 211 series in a holding siding, these run on the regional stopping services west of Tokyo through the mountains (they took over from the 115 series a few years ago). To the right of that you can see a Keio line train.

This is very typical of Japan, fairly dense urban area sweeping right up to the edge of the hills, go one station beyond and it's another, much quieter world mainly full of trees on steep slopes.


(Sorry about the rather dull grey photos, it's been a protracted rainy season and cloudy every day for the last month)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 20, 2019, 03:42:04 PM
Continuing the odyssey through the collection of ED75s, we jump forward in model production time to 1992, where we find this version by Kato:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48329502476_57f52f46f4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gCHkj5)
Kato ED75 (ED75-89) (https://flic.kr/p/2gCHkj5) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

It is a different subclass to the Tomix one seen previously, so the cab front looks slightly different. It is almost a sister locomotive to the Eidai model (produced ca. 1979):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48072808241_b0e7871b50_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gf2H4p)
Eidai ED75 (ED75 91) (https://flic.kr/p/2gf2H4p) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

In terms of body detailing quality, the two are not that far apart (as mentioned, the Eidai one was quite advanced for the time). The Kato one has sharper detail on the roof and the "skirt" (what in UK parlance would be the buffer beam, except Japanese locomotives don't have buffers). It also has an attempt at a cab interior, unlike the previous models shown. The cab window surrounds by contrast are somewhat lacking, the Tomix version does them much better.

The main difference to all previous models is the mechanism, which features Kato's double-flywheel motor, introduced in the very early 90s, and is a nice smooth quiet runner.

Unfortunately the number plates had become very brittle and half of them snapped off the sprue by accident, breaking tiny bits off the plates themselves.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: weave on July 20, 2019, 06:35:00 PM
Hi railsquid,

That's a bit spooky about the buffers because I mentioned before about possibly having Japanese (to be Rule 1) DMUs/EMUs/locos on my Spanish track in Izaro as RENFE have Mitsubishi locos and was going to ask you about a 2 car add on DMU set I bought on ebay years ago.

Mainly the question was going to be what year was it in real life and what is it (besides being Kato) in case I bought the powered set. I noticed yesterday that it didn't have any buffers and I presumed they had broken off. Annoyed, I didn't bother to take pic but in a possible new light I will do so after dinner.

Speak soon,

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS Great pics as usual.

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 20, 2019, 10:46:38 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:
   Thanks Ian following with great interest   :thumbsup:
         regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: weave on July 20, 2019, 11:57:04 PM
Hi Ian,

Sorry to hijack you again but here are some pics of the DMU......

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48333141852_746d3c1702_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gD2ZaW)20190720_225114 (https://flic.kr/p/2gD2ZaW) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48333007216_4952d60a60_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gD2i9C)20190720_225137 (https://flic.kr/p/2gD2i9C) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48333147627_5355d0ca56_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gD31Tv)20190720_225202 (https://flic.kr/p/2gD31Tv) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


I like the colours as thought they could be older Spanishy type livery in my semi fantasy world but as I said, if you knew when they appeared and what it is ie. classification to look up on a Kato site that would be fantastic.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS Meant to ask, do DMUs not have buffers either?

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 21, 2019, 12:57:43 AM
PS Meant to ask, do DMUs not have buffers either?

Once upon a time Japanese locomotives and rolling stock did indeed come fitted with buffers and chain link couplings, such as the previously seen Locomotive Number 1:


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48072661643_9dc1072609_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gf1XtR)
MicroAce Class E ( (https://flic.kr/p/2gf1XtR) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

as per British practice, but it was decided they were impractical for various reasons, and over a few days in July 1925 swapped them all out (on every single locomotive, coach and wagon) for automatic couplers (mainly variant(s) of the Janney coupler (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janney_coupler)), which among various advantages removes the need for buffers.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48333147627_5355d0ca56_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gD31Tv)20190720_225202 (https://flic.kr/p/2gD31Tv) by Christopher Weaver (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163968319@N02/), on Flickr


I like the colours as thought they could be older Spanishy type livery in my semi fantasy world but as I said, if you knew when they appeared and what it is ie. classification to look up on a Kato site that would be fantastic.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Hate to break it to you, but this is actually an EMU, more specifically the pantograph-less driving trailers of a (most likekly) a 165 series like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47622914241_2837bd3680_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fygTfi)
Kato 165-800 series (https://flic.kr/p/2fygTfi) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The numbers on the side are not legible in the photos but they should be "クハ" or "クモハ" 164-something or 165-something.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 21, 2019, 01:07:05 AM
You know, all those three weeks over there, I never noticed the lack of buffers!  :-[
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 21, 2019, 02:24:50 AM
I must admit, I never really thought about it until I started with N gauge, and noticed the lack of them being there to break off, lock up on tight corners etc.

While we're at it, the 165 series (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/165_series) was an EMU designed for express services. It look similar to the 115 EMUs previously seen, but only has narrower doors at the ends of each car.

They were the mainstay of intercity express services on the Chuo Line after electrification, most famously the "Alps" service between Shinjuku (Tokyo) and Matsumoto.

Here is my Kato model with the "Alps" headboard added:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40700578383_6f18cd2880_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/251z6Y4)
Kato 165 series (https://flic.kr/p/251z6Y4) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32725994067_71e956b884_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RRTgT2)
Kato 165-800 series (https://flic.kr/p/RRTgT2) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This model is "classic" Kato tooling, not exactly sure from when it dates, possibly late 1970s? Each car will have a 3-digit number on the chassis, which is a sure sign of earlier Kato. The model itself was in production until quite recently; it has since been replaced by a more up-to-date version.

The old model (available by the bucketload for cheap as chips) is nevertheless quite passable, especially if upgraded a bit, e.g. by replacing the wheelsets, adding close couplings, and retrofitting corridor connectors:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40656498783_fe1650920a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24WFbCX)
kato-165-series-corridor_01 (https://flic.kr/p/24WFbCX) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47622911421_f2420d14e6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fygSpF)
kato-165-series-corridor_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2fygSpF) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 21, 2019, 06:22:24 AM
I think that's a very passable model for it's age. The corridor connections are a definite improvement.

By the way, Hello Kitty is now Goodbye Kitty in the local shopping mall. She (He?) has been replaced with this rather boring looking thing:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/255-210719055837-796971422.jpeg)

Kitty didn't last long!  ::)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 21, 2019, 06:35:22 AM
There is hope for Antipodean civilisation  yet...
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on July 21, 2019, 09:03:00 AM
I like the colours as thought they could be older Spanishy type livery in my semi fantasy world but as I said, if you knew when they appeared and what it is ie. classification to look up on a Kato site that would be fantastic.

The livery reminds me of the Great Northern Railway (the US one!) before it went all 'Big Sky Blue' in the 'sixties.

Thank you, Gentlemen, for these super photographs.

Best Wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 22, 2019, 03:21:22 AM
That livery is known as the "Shonan" livery, as it was first applied in the 1950s to the (then) fancy new trains running on the Tokaido line between Tokyo and the Shonan area (coastal/resort area centred around Kamakura).

For a long time it was the default livery for DC multiple units, and survives (in abbreviated form) on the Tokaido line even today.

Meanwhile, ooh a video!



Direct link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skp4guHtQQw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skp4guHtQQw)

As I was messing around with the camera recently, and needed to edit some other videos anyway.

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 22, 2019, 03:56:12 AM
Good video!  :thumbsup:

The Apollo ones after it are pretty cool too!  ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 23, 2019, 01:17:26 AM
Good video!  :thumbsup:

The Apollo ones after it are pretty cool too!  ;)

That will be YouTube's algorithms suggesting things based on your recent viewing habits.

Meanwhile, last in the ED75 series, as I've run out of ED75s:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48337743617_7e8533e7d5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gDrz7H)
MicroAce ED75 (ED75 711) (https://flic.kr/p/2gDrz7H) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

It's 2007 in the model production world, and here we have an ED75-700 subseries from MicroAce, for a change. Built for service on the Ōu Main Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8Cu_Main_Line) and Uetsu Main Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uetsu_Main_Line) in the 1970s. The prototype in action:

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB:JNR_ed75_711_orient_akebono.jpg (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB:JNR_ed75_711_orient_akebono.jpg)

The model is more-or-less modern standard, all windows (including upper body side windows) glazed (though I see on the photo the side cab windows at the rear end are out-of-whack, must fix that); cab details are more-or-less present and represented in a reasonably prototypical pale green-blue (though MicroAce do tend to take some liberties with the space), (dummy) rear lights are separate parts, and the uncoupling lever (the wiggly black thing) is modelled as a separate part on the front skirt.

I'm not sure if it has a flywheel motor or LED lighting, either way it it is a nice quiet smooth runner.

The shunter grab handles however are still only represented as protrusions on the body moulding.

Now if you look carefully, at the front of the loco on the bottom left (from the viewer's perspective) you can see a small white line apparently floating in space. This is actually the leading edge of a small black square, which is a platform for the aforesaid shunter to stand on while grabbing the aforementioned grab handle with one hand and waving the driver on with a flag held in the other. See this video for an example of what I mean:



Direct link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcCpQ7ImCpI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcCpQ7ImCpI)

Here we see a 1500v DC EF66-100 series being taken off a freight train and the 20Kv AC ED75 being attached to continue the trip under higher voltage (though these days dual voltage locos are much more likely to be used, we'll get to those another day...) Note use of the uncoupling lever at about 0:50.

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 23, 2019, 02:23:45 AM
Anyway don't mind the double-decker Shinkansen (an E1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E1_Series_Shinkansen) if anyone's keen to know)...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48347159116_e120f49cc1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gEgQ1U)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-22_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gEgQ1U) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

it's there for clearance testing, as Yet Another Tunnel Portal needs to be fixed in place.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48347158951_19606719e8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gEgPY4)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-22_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gEgPY4) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 23, 2019, 03:55:54 AM
Plenty clearance up top, how's the sides?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 23, 2019, 03:59:58 AM
Tight, but sufficient  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 27, 2019, 10:00:00 AM
Mock-up of the hot-spring-resort-village-in-the-hills:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48364309571_901c77c5e5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gFMJfp)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-24_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gFMJfp) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Modelling the famouse Ice Cliff Tunnel of Central Japan:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48383848146_6538ec2938_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gHvSoo)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-26_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gHvSoo) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(OK, it's just the raw plaster cloth awaiting scenickery)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 27, 2019, 12:15:59 PM
Meanwhile, due to a bizarre sequence of freak signalling errors, the driver of the 10:22 railcar service to Falmouth found his route knowledge stretched to the limits.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48386563457_d0aedf6aa4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gHKMy6)
Dapol Class 122 (55000) (https://flic.kr/p/2gHKMy6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(This popped up on a local auction site at a very reasonable price, and it would have been rude not to).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 28, 2019, 02:13:46 AM
The Ice Cliffs now covered in a growth of moss:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48388097556_85a4312bae_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gHTDA5)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-27_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gHTDA5) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 28, 2019, 04:20:40 AM
All shrubbed up now:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48392129151_87179c1097_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gJfj3k)
left-scenic-area-2019-07-28_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gJfj3k) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Finally I can photograph trains entering and leaving the tunnel without Ikea furniture getting into the shot. :bounce:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 28, 2019, 10:44:39 AM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign
     Thanks Ian, all looking good    :thumbsup:
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 28, 2019, 10:47:53 AM
I'm transported back to last May!

Great pics. Still waiting for the plan, though  >:D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 31, 2019, 02:31:33 AM
You'll have to wait a bit longer...

Meanwhile you may recall I recently posted some pictures of Takao Station (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg579712#msg579712) on the edge of the Tokyo area where the plain hits the hills - well the other day we took a little family trip one station further to Sagamiko (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagamiko_Station), ca. 9.5km from Takao as the local train trundles through the hills, where we stayed overnight in this Japanese-style hotel here:

(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/sagamiko-2019-07-29_02.jpg)

which is a small, family-run place with just 5 rooms nestling in the verdant leafy other-worldness which is Japan outside of the coastal plains:

(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/sagamiko-2019-07-29_03.jpg)

(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/sagamiko-2019-07-29_05.jpg)

Dinner was had:

(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/sagamiko-2019-07-29_04.jpg)

(there was more than shown here, this was just the start) while enjoying the leafy view:

(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/sagamiko-2019-07-29_06.jpg)

But what about the trains, I hear you cry?

Well, happily and unexpectedly the Chuo Line was in sight of the room; it's the blur in the middle of this shot, which is an E353 Azusa express exiting a tunnel:

(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/sagamiko-2019-07-29_01.jpg)

(The view was somewhat better than the picture suggests as the camera can merely capture a split moment in time, whereas the eye can piece together a moving picture of the trains).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 31, 2019, 02:47:49 AM
Uber cool!  :beers:
Looks just like your layout!  :thumbsup:

If that's Squidlet heading off down that narrow road, I hope you were keeping an eye on him, Ian!  ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on July 31, 2019, 03:25:33 AM
That is indeed the Squidlet, who happily is blessed with a lively sense of self-preservation, moreover this was a very quiet road basically going nowhere, not a single vehicle passed the whole time we were out.

Oooh, forgot to mention (name drop coming up) - apparently the former Crown Prince stayed here a couple of years ago (before he got promoted the top job), not often you get to stay somewhere once blessed by the presence of the direct descendant of a sun goddess.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on July 31, 2019, 04:24:14 AM
Cooler and cooler!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: chrispearce on August 01, 2019, 11:21:51 PM
This is an educational layout! Didn't really know much about Japanese railways other than the classic Bullet-train - which I secretly wanted as a child. Thanks for these posts. I am learning much! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on August 05, 2019, 11:39:45 AM
Squid san - I've been on holiday in North Wales (see https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=46082.msg582152#msg582152 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=46082.msg582152#msg582152)) with very little Wifi, so only just caught up on this one...I loved the video of the shunting operations a few posts back, fascinating stuff!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 06, 2019, 01:39:01 AM
This is an educational layout! Didn't really know much about Japanese railways other than the classic Bullet-train - which I secretly wanted as a child. Thanks for these posts. I am learning much! :thumbsup:

I must admit, around this time 5 years ago I didn't know much more, despite living here and having travelled pretty extensively on the Japanese railway network. I mean, I've always liked trains, but never really had any reason to go into much detail since abandoning trainspotting in the 1980s.

Then one day, if memory serves correctly it was July 2014, and I was pottering round Tokyo's Akihabara district looking for some cheap computer parts, and happened to stumble upon a shop selling trains, wandered in and found they had baskets of second-hand rolling stock split from sets, thought it would be nifty to have a little model of one of the trains running on our local line to display on a shelf, so wandered back out with a single EMU end car and a bit of track to put it on... and the rest, as they say, is history.

And despite Japan being a bit of a latecomer as far as railways go, boy is there a lot of history, which is quite fascinating, especially as it provides an excuse to acquire ever more obscure stock.

But, returning to the present day for a while... you may recall this JR 209-500 Chuo-Sobu Line train (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg575642;topicseen#msg575642) from a few weeks ago, specifically:

Quote
You may notice it looks a little chubbier around the tumblehome than the previous 209... that is due to an increased proprortion of dairy products in the Japanese diet, err sorry, due to the fact that someone had the bright idea of increasing capacity by making the trains a little wider, which turns out to be practical as you don't need to increase the width of the whole body. This was actually planned for the successor series (E231) but due to delays in development it was decided to plonk the E231 body on the 209 series chassis, resulting in what we see here.

Here is the genuine E231 series:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48463834742_bfa42f3a96_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gQzPBC)
MicroAce E231-0 series (Chuo Sobu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gQzPBC) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Like the 209-500 series, from MicroAce, available by the bucketload at knockdown prices, because an older model (ca. 2004) and not quite as good as more recent offerings from Kato and Tomix, but very acceptable at the price paid, which is low partly because the MicroAce mechanism is notoriously noisy, but Railsquid knows a simple trick to cure that; before-and-after:



(Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRLz3Y1UCHg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRLz3Y1UCHg) )

To be continued...
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 06, 2019, 03:22:20 AM
I believe I mentioned this previously, but with many Japanese models there is a certain element of self-assembly required, which many people don't bother with because it's fiddly and also diminishes the resale value.

So as-is, typically multiple units will come with bare destination blinds/indicators, like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48106656677_3651da43c2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gi2c28)
MicroAce E231-500 series (Yamanote Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gi2c28) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(please excuse the sudden change of train, I don't have a photograph of the one in question in that state) which to be honest doesn't look too bad at normal viewing distance but sticks out like a sore thumb in pictures.

So with no further ado, Railsquid jumps into the realm of mm-sized fiddliness:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48463673126_c83e456702_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gQyZz9)
MicroAce E231-0 series (Chuo Sobu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gQyZz9) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

knocking yen off the potential resale value, which is fine as I don't intend to sell it and wouldn't get much anyway. The black part next to the scalpel is where the stickers go, conveniently it can be removed from the train.

The result:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48463834487_3261a19e39_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gQzPxe)
MicroAce E231-0 series (Chuo Sobu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gQzPxe) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

which doesn't look too bad (a bit tricky to take a photo of due to the curvature of the windscreen causing reflections).

I did start with this on Friday and only finished last night  :goggleeyes: but that was because one needs to pull the cab end off to gain access to the bit where you put the stickers, and unexpectedly the entire assembly burst apart, casting the protective assembly below the front coupling into the Great Unknown, so I ended up spending most of the available free time over the weekend tidying up the Railsquid Railway Lair which was quite productive and needed doing anyway. In the course of which I not only located the missing part, but discovered several other bits from other trains which had gone AWOL, but not as I had thought into the maw of the much-maligned carpet monster, but had found their way into various drawers.

Oh yes, these things also have one destination indicator on the side of each car (so 12 for a 6 car set), I suspect I'll leave those for another day year.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on August 06, 2019, 04:16:11 AM
The cleanup adventures of railsquid!!  :headbang:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 07, 2019, 07:34:26 AM
So, continuing our ad-hoc perambulations through the fascinating world of Japanese commuter trains, feast your eyes upon this strange-looking beast:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48463673056_ce85a2d111_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gQyZxW)
MicroAce E231-0 series (Chuo Sobu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gQyZxW) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

One day in the late 1980s or early 1990s someone was devoting some cranial capacity to the perennial problem of overcrowded trains and presumably travelled along a train of thought (hah!) along these lines (hah!): "Hmm, at peak times it's standing room only, so why not make a carriage which is literally that? And add some more doors so people can embark/egress more quickly.".

And so the six-door carriage was born. But what about outside of peak times, I hear you ask? Well it is actually fitted with seating, implemented as folding benches which are folded up against the walls (providing some support at buttock height) until about 10am on weekday mornings, after which point the train conductor releases a lock and announces that they can be folded down. The evening peak is more spread out so the seats stay down until the start of service on the next weekday morning.

These are however now falling out of favour, partly because the benefits don't really outweigh the costs of maintaining a bunch of non-standard cars, partly because additional capacity is reducing congestion, and partly because installation of platform-edge doors requires a standard door pattern. The 6-door cars on the Chuo-Sobu line are, as far as I know, the last ones still in service, and will probably disappear in the next couple of years once the next round of stock redeployment takes place.

Here's a video showing a bunch from the Yamanote Line (green stripe) heading to the knacker's yard a few years ago:



(Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIw3aO6mygQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIw3aO6mygQ) )

Note the reason why they are sandwiched between some Chuo-Sobu line cars (yellow stripe) is so they form a contiguous multiple unit for braking purposes, as the cars by themselves could not be braked directly by the locomotive.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on August 07, 2019, 08:33:02 AM
Fascinating stuff!

Many thanks.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: weave on August 07, 2019, 08:35:00 AM
Hi Ian,

Yet another nice and informative post. I think I now know more about Japanese trains than I do Spanish ones. I must do more homework and cut down on the Rioja  :)  :no:.

Great stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 07, 2019, 07:29:54 PM
 :hellosign: Many thanks Ian
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 09, 2019, 02:22:59 AM
But, returning to the present day for a while... you may recall this JR 209-500 Chuo-Sobu Line train (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg575642;topicseen#msg575642) from a few weeks ago, specifically:

Quote
You may notice it looks a little chubbier around the tumblehome than the previous 209... that is due to an increased proprortion of dairy products in the Japanese diet, err sorry, due to the fact that someone had the bright idea of increasing capacity by making the trains a little wider, which turns out to be practical as you don't need to increase the width of the whole body. This was actually planned for the successor series (E231) but due to delays in development it was decided to plonk the E231 body on the 209 series chassis, resulting in what we see here.


In today's lesson we will confuse things further by considering this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48488847807_2d471d2522_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gSN28n)
Tomix E231-800 series (https://flic.kr/p/2gSN28n) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

which as you can see from the photo caption is an E231 series, but has reverted to the narrow body type. What madness is this?

Well, as I have probably mentioned before (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg575253;topicseen#msg575253), there is a somewhat mind-boggling amount of inter-running between different train companies in the Tokyo area, and the JR Chuo-Sobu line is no exception, being connected with the Tokyo Metro Tōzai Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Metro_T%C5%8Dzai_Line) (literally "East-West Line", because - get this - it runs east-west through Tokyo, though depending on your viewpoint it could run west-east) before joining back up with the Chuo-Sobu line (and also branching off onto another private line far to the east of Tokyo which we don't care about here). As a wide-bodied train would not fit into the Tokyo Metro tunnels (actually I suspect they would fit, but get badly dented by bits of lineside infrastructure), the narrow body is needed, hence this E231-800 series (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E231_series#E231-800_series) subclass. Only 7 sets were built; for through-running there is a complex formula/set of rules determining which company provides how many trains, and as the majority of the route is operated by Tokyo Metro, they provided most of the trains, hence the small size of the JR subclass.

These do not and have never had 6-door cars.

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 10, 2019, 04:53:59 AM
Talking of 6-door carriages, here's a picture of the inside of one I took many years ago (very early in the morning):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8391/29341760812_f062c7254b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LGQceN)
P1010088 (https://flic.kr/p/LGQceN) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

A normal 4-door carriage (outside of the rush hour ;) )
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7474/29343440922_47b6477621_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LGYNFd)
Yamanote line train (205 series) at Osaki (https://flic.kr/p/LGYNFd) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

For anyone who's eyes have not yet glazed over, these are 205 series trains, in model form the 6-door one looks (on the outside) like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1975/43996989775_11a27c2918_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a2S5ee)
Kato 205 series (Yamanote Line), 6 door car (https://flic.kr/p/2a2S5ee) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on August 10, 2019, 05:06:10 AM
Rush hour it wasn't!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 10, 2019, 02:56:57 PM
My, doesn't time fly? It is a mere half-decade since I got my first sniff of that N gauge gateway drug called Kato, and in those distant, innocent days this was the extent of my addiction:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48500521097_4bae048d5d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gTPRbZ)
layout-2014-08-17_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gTPRbZ) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

At this point I owned 2 (two) powered trains, a Kato 0-series Shinkansen (the original "Bullet Train") and an orange 103 series EMU, which was my first proper purchase and which is a cheap starter set by Kato derived from their original early 1970s tooling, and consequently crude by modern standards, though as at that point I had no idea what modern standards were, I was very much taken by it. We also see a random selection of freight wagons, which I purchased without considering the lack of suitable motive power, so for a while the Shinkansen buffet car was roped in as a short-term workaround.

The yellow car all on its lonesome is the spontaneous purchase intended for display on a shelf wot got me into this in the first place (I have since acquired enough additional cars to turn it into a viable EMU set).

To commemorate my descent into madness, here the original two powered sets and some proof that some scenic work has been carried out during the intervening years:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48503085516_1f73246aea_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gU3Zv7)
original-n-gauge-trains-2019-08 (https://flic.kr/p/2gU3Zv7) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 10, 2019, 10:32:09 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
  My how time flies by Ian, thanks for sharing your interesting, entertaining & educational layout   :thumbsup:
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on August 10, 2019, 10:51:44 PM
That's a great photo. Sort of like a Marvel origins movie.

The pic itself could become a collectors item!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 12, 2019, 07:21:24 AM
Whoops, slight infestation of space/time wormholes here  ???

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48517666092_fd1ed752e1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gVkHNm)
Dapol "Broome Manor" (https://flic.kr/p/2gVkHNm) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on August 12, 2019, 08:02:04 AM
Splendid picture!

Rule one applies.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on August 12, 2019, 08:25:24 AM
That looks like a fairly late model, not one of your usual bargain basement jobs.....

What's going on, Squiddy?  ;D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 12, 2019, 09:29:49 AM
That looks like a fairly late model, not one of your usual bargain basement jobs.....


Um, that was one of Dapol's 50 quid specials, which I ordered early one morning while not fully awake (gotta move fast before they all go!) and didn't realise it was in GWR livery, so have since acquired some coaches for it to pull from the Hattons 2nd hand page, though I suspect they might not be fully prototypical (I can never remember which GWR corporate designs came when).

We resume normal service with this Tomix 72/73-series EMU in "Yokosuka" livery:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48518012136_76a7eca7a6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gVnuEC)
Tomix 72/73 series (Yokosuka colour) (https://flic.kr/p/2gVnuEC) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

which we have seen before (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg578404;topicseen#msg578404), albeit in brown.

As mentioned, this particular class has many variations, here we see the leading car has been modernised, while the intermediate trailers retain the original 3-part windows.

We also see that the stickers above the cab windows are somewhat wonky, this is because the unit is a pre-owned auction bargain, evidently part of someone's collection being sold off as I acquired a couple of other sets which appeared to have come from the same owner. It needed some mechanical attention (must be about 20 years old) and now runs nice and smoothly; I have replaced the original shiny wheelsets with more modern blackened ones.

The cab at the other end looks like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1762/29550347728_e21eaf1d72_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/M2gfRW)
Tomix 72/73 series (Yokosuka colour) (https://flic.kr/p/M2gfRW) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Again, a different variation.

The real thing in action on the Chuo Line in 1966:

http://rail.hobidas.com/kokutetsu2/archives/0070-6/0010-19/#entry-21506 (http://rail.hobidas.com/kokutetsu2/archives/0070-6/0010-19/#entry-21506)

Yet another variation, this time with the same cab windows as the first shot above, but the original 3-part side windows.

Note the lack of any fencing between road and railway, something you no longer see in built-up areas. The line here has since been elevated and another pair of tracks added, so this viewpoint is long gone.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on August 13, 2019, 11:04:22 PM
Wow! A real history session. What is really natsukashi here is that I remember the 1990's stock on the Chuo, Sobu, Yamanote etc from my time in Japan. If I do get a business trip to Japan, which might be possibly November, I'll get in touch for a possible meet up! 
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on August 13, 2019, 11:11:42 PM
Make sure it's not a night when the Japanese footy is on. The pubs are full  ;) :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 16, 2019, 05:36:58 AM
Wow! A real history session. What is really natsukashi here is that I remember the 1990's stock on the Chuo, Sobu, Yamanote etc from my time in Japan. If I do get a business trip to Japan, which might be possibly November, I'll get in touch for a possible meet up!

I am still cursing myself for not taking more notice of the trains while I was here in the late 1990s.

I may, ironically, be out of Japan at some point in November, not sure yet.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 16, 2019, 05:38:42 AM
Anyway, enough trains for now, time for a bit of scenery construction progress:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48544473976_3424c420cd_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gXH7Rf)
rear-left-scene-2019-08-15_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gXH7Rf) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48544468746_125038b69f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gXH6i5)
rear-left-scene-2019-08-15_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gXH6i5) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on August 16, 2019, 07:08:24 AM
Very reminiscent of that place I bought that green  :poop: from in Lara  ;)

Looks great!  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: joe cassidy on August 16, 2019, 07:51:35 AM
I like the smooth transition from flat to slope in the road going up the hill.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 16, 2019, 09:41:48 AM
I like the smooth transition from flat to slope in the road going up the hill.

It will be a lot smoother once the road is laid properly, what you see are bits and pieces laid for effect  :)

I have probably mentioned this umpteen times before, but one of the nice things about Japan from a modelling point of view is that it is full of steep hills with accompanying steep slopes and buildings squeezed in wherever there's a bit of land which can be made level (or in extreme cases using stilts to build a house on a 45 degree slope), so you can squeeze a lot in and still have it look plausible.

Stay tuned for more trains as I have just visited a big exhibition...
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: weave on August 16, 2019, 10:09:03 AM
Hi Ian,

I like the road as is. Reminds me of a road in a village in France where my mate lives. We hired a Luton van to move a load of stuff from England to where he lives and I swear the van was going to topple over the edge at any moment.

If you imagine your van, but obviously bigger, further up. Not quite the Italian job but scary nonetheless.

Love your scenery. Great stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 16, 2019, 02:37:33 PM
And I was only supposed to blow the bloody doors off ;).

The road will, eventually, disappear behind the "shoulder" of the hill on the left, and with some arboreal disguise, the abrupt end enforced by the presence of the wall will be entirely hidden from any remotely achievable viewing angle.

Now back to some trains...

One of the great things about the Japanese N gauge market is the incredible coverage of protoypes, at least of anything running from the 1920s onwards. For my Chuo Line-centred world, it's very rare not to be able to find a model of a particular prototype, the "missing" ones are mainly obscure early electric loco classes (and I think if I look hard enough they'll be available as kits somewhere).

However even in Japan, it is not feasible for manufacturers to keep everything in production all the time, and there's a fair few items where there was one production run, and that was it. This is particularly true for MicroAce, who have produced a huge range mainly of one-off production runs. This includes various Tozai Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Metro_T%C5%8Dzai_Line) underground trains, which are of particular interest to me as they run through onto the Chuo-Sobu Line (previously mentioned here (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg583112#msg583112)), but are as rare as hen's teeth and command eye-watering prices.

But I am a great believer in the concept of manifest destiny, and so it was I set off to the 20th JAM Convention (http://kokusaitetsudoumokei-convention.jp/), "JAM" here referring not to fruit preserves but the "Japanese Association of Modellers" (or so I believe), which I think is the largest model railway event in Japan held each August, confident that somehow I would exit the proud owner of a Tozai Line model.

Now, while there are some layouts on show, it's more of a sales event providing a) access to a wide range of 2nd hand products and b) access to various niche manufacturers of accessories etc., and so it was that I chanced upon this MicroAce Eidan 05 series (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Metro_05_series) for a sane, non-eye-watering price hidden among a pile of junk on the stand of a model shop from somewhere in the boonies north of Tokyo.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48550861936_209ff76f58_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gYgRLu)
Catalogue number A5010 (https://flic.kr/p/2gYgRLu) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This particular model was made in 2003 representing the 8th construction lot of the 05 series, built in 1999 (the 05 series has a number of distinct variants which I wasn't really aware of until I looked up this model, which is annoying, as I will now have to spend the next few years looking out for the other variants). Unusually for a MicroAce model of that production era, it runs quite smoothly without sounding like a box of spanners and is in pretty good condition overall, so I'll count this one as a win.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 16, 2019, 03:00:02 PM
Now, the eagle-eyed among you will, if you are not otherwise occupied swooping down from great height with the intent of acquiring a startled rodent for lunch, have noticed a logo on the front of the above 05 series which bears a faint resemblance to the London Underground logo.

I am sure the resemblance is entirely coincidental, but regardless of that, it is the logo of the former Teito Rapid Transit Authority ("Teito" meaning literally "Imperial Capital"), in use from the 1950s until 2004 (which limits the prototypical running period of the above 05 series to 1999-2004).

In 2004 the Teito Rapid Transit Authority was "privatized", meaning it went from a state-owned corporation jointly owned by the Metropolis of Tokyo and the Japanese government to a private entity which is jointly owned by the Metropolis of Tokyo and the Japanese government, called "Tokyo Metro (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Metro)", with a brand-new logo (see below).

At this point it is traditional to jump in and confuse things further by stating that Tokyo has a whole other underground network (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Metropolitan_Bureau_of_Transportation#Toei_Subwaymetro/)
 owned and run by... the Metropolis of Tokyo. This network is smaller and only has 4 lines, but just to keep things interesting those 4 lines have 3 different gauges (1,435 mm, 1,372 mm and 1,067 mm). And one of them has through-running with a Tokyo Metro line.

I hope you are keeping up with all this?

Anyway this is my other Tozai Line model:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1888/44321766951_d9ce77cf0d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2awyDaH)
MicroAce Tokyo Metro 5000 Series (https://flic.kr/p/2awyDaH) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

a 5000 series, which is much older than the 05 series (dating from the 1960s) but here seen with the 2004-and-later Tokyo Metro logo (the stylized "M" on a light blue background at the top right of the cab front), which limits its prototypical running era to ca. 2004 - 2007 (when they were withdrawn).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 16, 2019, 04:18:07 PM
I have probably mentioned this umpteen times before, but one of the nice things about Japan from a modelling point of view is that it is full of steep hills with accompanying steep slopes and buildings squeezed in wherever there's a bit of land which can be made level (or in extreme cases using stilts to build a house on a 45 degree slope), so you can squeeze a lot in and still have it look plausible.

It occurred to me I might as well make use of the Peco tunnel "wings" (to use what is probably not the technical term) to defuse some scenic right-angles and generally give the impression they are there to hold the scenery up (very important in Japan as there is lots of steep scenery engaged in an aeon-spanning attempt to slide inexorably down the gravity well)

Here's a good example of all that... not railway-related, but narrow valley up in the mountains, road running along the side of the valley, valley falls on road (see video from about 1:10). Road subsequently rerouted through tunnel.



Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77J5E_RDESo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77J5E_RDESo)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 16, 2019, 04:58:47 PM

Here's a good example of all that... not railway-related

Stop right there, this is Japan, everything is railway-related, and the river in that video is the Azusa River, after which the eponymous Chuo Line express service is named.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on August 16, 2019, 10:56:48 PM
You should enrol in a university, Ian. You have enough material here for a thesis!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: weave on August 17, 2019, 12:12:02 AM
Hi Ian,

You should write a little book called 'Ian's Guide to Japanese Railways and Modelling them in N Gauge'.

Every copy comes with free pamphlets of the 'George's Guide to Japan' series including 'Where and where not to stay', 'What and what not to eat', 'Essential tips on beer drinking' and 'The Mystery of Japanese Toilets - all you need to know'  :D.

Seriously though Ian, maybe you should, I've learned so much and wasn't even interested in Japanese trains before.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 17, 2019, 04:25:56 AM
You should enrol in a university, Ian. You have enough material here for a thesis!  :thumbsup:

The only "thesis" around here is that "thesis too many model trains" ;)

Hi Ian,

You should write a little book called 'Ian's Guide to Japanese Railways and Modelling them in N Gauge'.

Every copy comes with free pamphlets of the 'George's Guide to Japan' series including 'Where and where not stay', 'What and what not to eat', 'Essential tips on beer drinking' and 'The Mystery of Japanese Toilets - all you need to know'  :D.

Seriously though Ian, maybe you should, I've learned so much and wasn't even interested in Japanese trains before.

Glad to here it is of interest, though I'm not doing much more than rehashing information available on Wikipedia et al ;).

Anyway here's Yet Another Brown Locomotive, which I bought not long after I embarked on the slippery slide down the N gauge rabbit hole because it was on sale cheap (what else?) without really knowing what it is, and it languished unused and unembellished until recently, when I dug it out as part of a round of Locomotive Embellishment (adding number plates and other details):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48315022452_36d0215f1a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gBr7Uu)
Tomix EF60 (EF60-42) (https://flic.kr/p/2gBr7Uu) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

As we all know by now, a 1500v DC locomotive with 6 powered axles, in the typical Bo-Bo-Bo configuration.

Historically this EF60 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JNR_Class_EF60) locomotive is interesting as it's the first class of post-war "modern" mainline DC locomotives, which established the classic "brick" shape with rounded cab windows.

Built during the first half of the 1960s, technologically it derives from developments first implemented with the (smaller) ED61 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg579260;topicseen#msg579260) we have previously seen (which itself benefitted from advances made in AC locomotive development), which made it feasible to pack in the gubbins necessary to provide equivalent power to the older 2-Co-Co-2 locos (EF57, EF58) etc. in a smaller space with better efficiency.

Stylistically it retains (as does the ED61 and the DF50 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg573518;topicseen#msg573518)) the single centre-mounted headlight, but from the 4th batch this was replaced by two smaller headlights (such as this example here (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB:EF60-84-198611.JPG)), which set the basic style for electric locomotive design for a couple of decades.

Now, in their brown heyday these would have run on the Tokaido Main Line connecting Tokyo and Osaka (the old Cape Gauge route, not the Shinkansen), which is not my particular interest (though I do have enough Tokaido Line stock for it to feel at home).

But - and this is probably about the point my biographers will determine my transition from enthusiastic collector to detail-obsessed maniac - during my "research" I discovered that a few of these were stationed on the Chuo Line (at the former Hachioji depot, the same "Hachi" from "Takahachikawa") for a couple of years (ca. 1979 - 1982), after being displaced from front-line duties by newer classes. By this point they had been painted blue, and the above EF60-42 wasn't among their number... Helpfully Tomix also make a variant of the specific subclass in the appropriate colour:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48386803012_543af27a02_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gHM1Lm)
Tomix EF60 (EF60-23) (https://flic.kr/p/2gHM1Lm) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

but unhelpfully the selection of numberplates supplied doesn't match any of those stationed on the Chuo Line. The previous owner (Tomix ain't making these at the moment, so second-hand it must be) had fitted "EF60-23", which is as close as you can get to "EF60-24", which was one of the Chuo Line allocation, but that's not Good Enough, Oh No, so the Third Party Parts Market was perused and lo-and-behold someone makes a bunch of plates including "EF60-24", so duly acquired and put into the todo pile...

One of these, EF60-19, has actually survived in active service, mainly for excursion trains, enthusiast specials etc., but its potential demise is currently the subject of rumour.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 18, 2019, 07:48:58 AM
Step-by-step, some more scenery...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48564013251_8fb36e5f66_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gZrgci)
rear-left-scene-2019-08-17_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gZrgci) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on August 18, 2019, 08:21:35 AM
So which kit was cannibalised for those?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 18, 2019, 08:54:01 AM
They are 3D printed parts from a small company which produces some nifty small scenic items.

I saw them at the exhibition the other day and immediately thought of a use for them. :thumbsup:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48564258351_5e4a3c9ff4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gZsw4a)
rear-left-scene-2019-08-18_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gZsw4a) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on August 18, 2019, 09:01:05 AM
Cool!

Memories of Hakone!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 18, 2019, 06:21:33 PM
The Hymeks look very good, Ian. My favourite livery is BR Green with small warning panel then BR Early Blue with Grey cab surrounds and with small warning panel. I have two of the first and one each of the others. I think BR Green with small warning panels goes very well with BR Lined Maroon, particularly the Colletts of which I see you have one followed by a Gresley which, strangely, is not unprototypical if you include as the first coach as the WR seemed to have a batch of them, particularly SKs, used for 'strengtheners' at peak times in the early 1960s.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 18, 2019, 07:20:26 PM
Meanwhile, due to a bizarre sequence of freak signalling errors, the driver of the 10:22 railcar service to Falmouth found his route knowledge stretched to the limits.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48386563457_d0aedf6aa4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gHKMy6)
Dapol Class 122 (55000) (https://flic.kr/p/2gHKMy6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(This popped up on a local auction site at a very reasonable price, and it would have been rude not to).

Another very nice model, Ian, and also suitable for 'through' running. I'm glad you got one as a bargain.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 19, 2019, 02:55:17 PM
I do have half-a-dozen or so Dapol Gresleys, some certainly with through-running compatible numbers, others (including some crimson/cream ones) acquired because I like the look of them  :thumbsup:

Talking of non-Japanese coaching stock, the space-time-continuum threw another wobbly and brought us what might be, if you close your eyes a little and ignore logo discrepancies, the EC10/11 Berlin-Zagreb "Mimara" EuroCity with a mixed rake of Austrian and Croatian stock ca. 1999/2000).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48575359916_c142a067c7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h1rqas)
EC11/EC12 "Mimara" (https://flic.kr/p/2h1rqas) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The real train had DB and Slovenian coaches as well:  https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/vlak.php?zeme=DB&cislo=11&rok=2000&lang=en (https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/vlak.php?zeme=DB&cislo=11&rok=2000&lang=en)

I can't recall whether I ever actually saw this one, but the Croatian coaches rang a bell and I was living within sight of the line they passed through in Berlin.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 20, 2019, 04:42:58 PM
A bit more scenickerying:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48585147892_6a1ec4dccd_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h2izME)
rear-left-scene-2019-08-20_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2h2izME) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 21, 2019, 09:12:26 AM
A rare visitor on clearance testing duties:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48508438982_580ec883a4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gUwqUf)
Kato 0 series Shinkansen (https://flic.kr/p/2gUwqUf) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This is a 0-series Shinkansen (the classic "Bullet Train"), albeit the later 2000 series. As a very very broad rule of thumb, the original series had wide windows spanning several seating rows (like those on BR Mk3 coaches), later series had smaller windows (one per seating row). You could however see formations with mixtures of window types.

The last of the 0 series were withdrawn from service in 2008, by which time they were eking out a marginal existence as 4 and 6 car formations on stopping services in the west of Japan.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on August 21, 2019, 09:16:33 AM
You've modelled main street, Hakone!  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: port perran on August 21, 2019, 09:18:30 AM
Excellent stuff.
I haven’t dipped into this thread for a few weeks so good to see it all coming along superbly.
I love that view of the bullet train. With a bit (well maybe quite a lot) of imagination, it could almost be Sydney Gardens in Bath !
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 21, 2019, 09:19:41 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48508438982_580ec883a4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gUwqUf)
Kato 0 series Shinkansen (https://flic.kr/p/2gUwqUf) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This is a 0-series Shinkansen (the classic "Bullet Train"), albeit the later 2000 series. As a very very broad rule of thumb, the original series had wide windows spanning several seating rows (like those on BR Mk3 coaches)

Like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4898/46139597252_9112171128_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dicuMs)
MicroAce 0 Series Shinkansen (https://flic.kr/p/2dicuMs) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(Forgot I had that one  :D )
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 21, 2019, 08:52:42 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
     Many thanks Ian enjoying getting educated
        regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Kokuma on August 21, 2019, 09:34:02 PM
stunning layout, its been great reading through this thread.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Buffin on August 21, 2019, 10:07:40 PM
Can I post a quick Japanese railway question here? I see Japanese retailers using the word "hematopoiesis" in describing some models. I assume it's nothing to do with blood, so whatever do they mean?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on August 21, 2019, 10:12:23 PM
Hi Ian,

You should write a little book called 'Ian's Guide to Japanese Railways and Modelling them in N Gauge'.

Every copy comes with free pamphlets of the 'George's Guide to Japan' series including 'Where and where not to stay', 'What and what not to eat', 'Essential tips on beer drinking' and 'The Mystery of Japanese Toilets - all you need to know'  :D.


We forgot to mention "Bealman's guide to Japanese chocky..."
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/6745-200819174621.jpeg)

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Snowwolflair on August 21, 2019, 10:13:23 PM
Can I post a quick Japanese railway question here? I see Japanese retailers using the word "hematopoiesis" in describing some models. I assume it's nothing to do with blood, so whatever do they mean?

Could be the blood red paint scheme.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on August 21, 2019, 10:23:44 PM
Can I post a quick Japanese railway question here? I see Japanese retailers using the word "hematopoiesis" in describing some models. I assume it's nothing to do with blood, so whatever do they mean?


Buffin - a great question, and before Squid san jumps in, I found this, which may explain it:
http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/4832-mistranstlation-of-hematopoietic/ (http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/4832-mistranstlation-of-hematopoietic/)
However, I am not yet sure what Japanese phrase they are mis-translating - Squid san, oshiete kure?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 21, 2019, 11:57:54 PM
Can I post a quick Japanese railway question here? I see Japanese retailers using the word "hematopoiesis" in describing some models. I assume it's nothing to do with blood, so whatever do they mean?


Buffin - a great question, and before Squid san jumps in, I found this, which may explain it:
[url]http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/4832-mistranstlation-of-hematopoietic/[/url] ([url]http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/4832-mistranstlation-of-hematopoietic/[/url])
However, I am not yet sure what Japanese phrase they are mis-translating - Squid san, oshiete kure?


Never heard of the word or that translation issue before, but the word for "add-on (set)" is "増結"(zōketsu), typing zōketsu also brings up the homonym "造血" (zōketsu) which translates to the aforementioned  "hematopoiesis".
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Buffin on August 22, 2019, 05:43:55 AM
I did idly wonder about 'add on set', but I couldn't see why it should be that. Now I'm not surprised I couldn't fathom it out!

Many thanks for that erudite little excursion  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 24, 2019, 03:21:21 PM
In today's episode, we stay with the "brown" theme (but with some freight for a change) this time rummaging in the box for the genuine article:

([url]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48298854097_c3b73415aa_z.jpg[/url]) ([url]https://flic.kr/p/2gA1fBK[/url])
Kato ED16 (ED16-3) ([url]https://flic.kr/p/2gA1fBK[/url]) by Rail Squid ([url]https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/[/url]), on Flickr

(...)

Now, why do I "need" this particular loco? Well the class of 18 was strongly associated with the Chuo Line in the Tokyo area for most of their working lives, which were quite long, as the class was produced in the mid 1930s and only finally retired in 1984. @Bealman ([url]https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255[/url]) may be interested to know they are a smaller variant of the EF52 in the Kyoto museum.





This early electric locomotive could almost be of American or Swiss design:

([url]https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/76/255-040519050417-769771162.jpeg[/url])


Not too far off - this was the first "heavy" electric locomotive (2-Co-Co-2 arrangement) produced entirely within Japan, and was inspired in no small part by preceding classes imported from Switzerland, the USA and the UK.

Nine of these were produced between 1928 and 1931, though the last two examples were converted to another class.

Apparently they were initially not terribly successful, due to their partially experimental nature, but they were evidently good enough to last in service until 1974 in the Osaka area, and set the pattern for further electric loco development.

Now I know what you're thinking - something like "railsquid's only gone and bought a model hasn't he?".

Well we can blame @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) for that, because while looking up the EF52 in the Kyoto museum, I discovered evidence that at least one saw some service on the eastern Chuo Line, pictured here at Shinjuku Station in Tokyo (http://11.pro.tok2.com/~mu3rail/link-ef52.html), and one need look no further than MicroAce for an N scale representation...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48611878766_f37160026e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h4EzWN)
microace-ef52-ef52-7_A1001_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2h4EzWN) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(Second hand of course, due being out of production, the model dating from 2004).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on August 25, 2019, 01:17:10 AM
As I've said before, PhD material, mate.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 28, 2019, 09:22:10 AM
Ah yes, "Purchasing hoarder Disorder", I definitely qualify for that.

Anyway I decided it was time to put the kettle on, but some wires got crossed inside my belaboured mind.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48634653308_461ff38afb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h6Fj2j)
Kato C62 (C62 16) (https://flic.kr/p/2h6Fj2j) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Another C62, this time from Kato and of the more modern motor-not-in-cab persuasion (the other, much older one is back here (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg567997#msg567997)).

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on August 28, 2019, 02:28:46 PM
That's a splendid-looking locomotive.  Being Kato, I expect that it'll run as well as it looks.

I really like the photograph, taken from a low viewpoint.  Some buildings, some further away buildings then trees up the hillside.  Sounds so simple, but the effect is absolutely excellent.

With best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: grumbeast on August 28, 2019, 02:53:54 PM
Those C62s are handsome beasts aren’t they...
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 29, 2019, 02:55:37 AM
That's a splendid-looking locomotive.  Being Kato, I expect that it'll run as well as it looks.

It does run very nicely overall, especially bearing in mind it was made in 2007 - you don't think I buy these things new do you? It's a bit pf a Rule 1 purchase, I was keen to see what a newer Kato kettle is like, but not enough tot want to pay the price of a new one. Only slight problem is that the motor has the distinct Kato sound which indicates a little lubrication of the motor bearings may be in order, but at this point I am not sure how to get at the motor.

I really like the photograph, taken from a low viewpoint.  Some buildings, some further away buildings then trees up the hillside.  Sounds so simple, but the effect is absolutely excellent.

Thank you, I discovered this particular vantage point quite recently and am please by it. I think it works well also because it puts the viewpoint below the top of the train.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 29, 2019, 05:52:44 AM

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48634653308_461ff38afb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h6Fj2j)
Kato C62 (C62 16) (https://flic.kr/p/2h6Fj2j) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Another C62, this time from Kato and of the more modern motor-not-in-cab persuasion (the other, much older one is back here (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg567997#msg567997)).

For comparison, here's the older MicroAce model in roughly the same location:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48639791758_91ebaed621_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h78Dvh)
MicroAce C62 "Kamome" set (https://flic.kr/p/2h78Dvh) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 29, 2019, 06:10:51 AM
May:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40866734653_1b490fa444_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25gfGrk)
c62-kamome-2019-05-12_02 (https://flic.kr/p/25gfGrk) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

August:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48640142436_7e1532e514_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h7arKs)
MicroAce C62 "Kamome" set (https://flic.kr/p/2h7arKs) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Aha, I am making progress...
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on August 29, 2019, 06:22:17 AM
Definitely!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 29, 2019, 07:36:25 AM
And very good looking progress too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 29, 2019, 03:53:51 PM
They are 3D printed parts from a small company which produces some nifty small scenic items.

I saw them at the exhibition the other day and immediately thought of a use for them. :thumbsup:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48564258351_5e4a3c9ff4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gZsw4a)
rear-left-scene-2019-08-18_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gZsw4a) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Fortunately there is road access too, so Mr. and Mrs. Bealman can arrive in the comfort of a somewhat retro taxi.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48642462957_d8ef8a5b90_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h7nkyr)
rear-left-scene-2019-08-29_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2h7nkyr) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: port perran on August 29, 2019, 03:59:04 PM
That progress is indeed replicating the big railway.
Steam will be displaced by electric traction.

Excellent work by the way.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 30, 2019, 06:31:18 AM
The local paparazzi are on the trail of the legendary Mr. and Mrs. @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) , but no luck so far.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48646008882_7da0d6ca71_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h7FvD5)
rear-left-scene-2019-08-30_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2h7FvD5) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on August 30, 2019, 09:20:53 AM
They're looking in the wrong place.

We're down at the local bus stop  :D

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/255-090619041939-78315748.jpeg)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on August 30, 2019, 09:26:09 AM
Bus stops I have a-plenty, somewhere there is an ancient Greenmax kit with McDonalds stickers... What else? Aha, N scale shopping trolleys, we'll have to go all Rule 1 on those as your actual metal shopping trolleys littering the vicinity of supermarkets just do not happen in Japan.  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on September 01, 2019, 08:42:18 AM
This afternoon's Squidlet-free time was expended on more scenic-work-in-progress:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48657680912_8b127f2355_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h8HkjY)
rear-left-scenery-2019-09-01_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2h8HkjY) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48657530436_081f722f99_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h8GyAy)
rear-left-scenery-2019-09-01_04 (https://flic.kr/p/2h8GyAy) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48657681067_916a8a7273_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h8HknD)
rear-left-scenery-2019-09-01_05 (https://flic.kr/p/2h8HknD) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48657178213_009e2537ee_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h8EKTK)
rear-left-scenery-2019-09-01_06 (https://flic.kr/p/2h8EKTK) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


As before, resting on a chopstick framework:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48657681157_f35c242d10_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h8Hkpc)
rear-left-scenery-2019-09-01_07 (https://flic.kr/p/2h8Hkpc) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

And back in place:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48657190238_e9483cb515_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h8EPt5)
rear-left-scenery-2019-09-01_08 (https://flic.kr/p/2h8EPt5) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on September 01, 2019, 09:06:21 AM
Absolutely fabulous!

I think I'll buy shares in a manufacturer of disposable chopsticks; ought to be a nice little earner...

Many thanks and all best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on September 01, 2019, 08:42:37 PM
Absolutely fabulous!


:hellosign:
 Gotta agree with John, superb modelling Ian   :thumbsup:
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on September 07, 2019, 02:35:02 PM
すごい です。
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Snowwolflair on September 07, 2019, 02:39:53 PM
すごい です。

Yes it is  :)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on September 07, 2019, 02:44:23 PM
すごい です。

Yes it is  :)

Indeed, my hovercraft is full of うなぎ.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Snowwolflair on September 07, 2019, 02:46:24 PM
すごい です。

Yes it is  :)

Indeed, my hovercraft is full of うなぎ.

Nice deep fried, are they a Japanese speciality
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on September 07, 2019, 02:55:14 PM

[/quote]

Indeed, my hovercraft is full of うなぎ.
[/quote]
うなぎ上り ですね!

(I'm just having a bit of banter here with Squidy, just for fun. I'll share the joke...うなぎ上り -literally means "climbing eels" but if you are interested you can find the translation here! https://jisho.org/search/unaginobori)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Milton Rail on September 08, 2019, 02:11:51 PM
Great progress your making and as many have said, you're educating the lot of us :)  great work
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on September 12, 2019, 01:36:56 PM
A slight change of theme today...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48721243593_5d013c89ca_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hek7ig)
Roco ET85 (BR485/885) (https://flic.kr/p/2hek7ig) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

If you close your eyes a little this could almost be somewhere in southern Germany, where we see this classic pre-war EMU traction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRG_Class_ET_85) sandwiching an "Umbauwagen", which is a classic (very) pre-war coach of some kind rebuilt to post-war standards.

Made by Roco ca. 1979-1985, this is very much a Rule 1 acquisition which I encountered a few years ago in one of Tokyo's many model railway shops which told me it needed a good home.

The prototype lasted in service until about 1977; see this delightful Flickr album (https://www.flickr.com/photos/42309484@N03/albums/72157709118465927) with a bunch of pictures from their later years.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on September 12, 2019, 10:04:23 PM
Nice looking coach.  :thumbsup:

And I love those tall pantographs! Reminds me of an exhibit in Kyoto where you could push a button and make a real one go up and down
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 13, 2019, 07:42:11 AM
A very attractive and unusual DB EMU. Alas, I never saw the real-life ones in service.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on September 14, 2019, 04:31:44 PM
So, getting a bit closer to home, a few pages back (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg575567;topicseen#msg575567) we saw this JR 209-0 series:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48148395421_d86fedf9c5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gmH7uD)
Tomix 209 series (Nanbu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gmH7uD) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

and a bit later (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg575642;topicseen#msg575642) the wide-bodied 209-500 series:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48086342397_122ba2f140_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gge5hV)
MicroAce 209-500 series (Chuo-Sobu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gge5hV) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

To complete the trifecta, here's a 209-1000 series:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48731965406_7cb387c26a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hfh4w7)
Tomix 209-1000 series (Chuo Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2hfh4w7) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

aaaand... we're back to the narrow body. And if you look carefully it has a split front cab window, just like the E231-800 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg583112;topicseen#msg583112) series from not so long ago, which is a sure sign it's designed to operate in underground metro-style tunnels, as a method of egress through the front of the cab is required as an evacuation route of last resort.

This is also the latest addition to the Chuo Line commuter fleet, but also the oldest, and does not interoperate with the metro network at all. Crazy, huh?

As it happens this (and its sister set) were recently retired from the Joban Line, where like the 203 series (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg575253;topicseen#msg575253) seen a while back, they operated through onto the Tokyo Metro Chiyoda Line. However they were knocking on a bit (almost 20 years old now) and as a couple of years back it was decided that trains from the (private) Odakyu Line, which is at the other end of the Chiyoda line, would run through onto the Joban line, and vice versa, so some modifications were necessary to cope with the Odakyu Line's signalling arrangements etc., and as an older, numerically very small class it was decided it wasn't worth the expense, and they were shuffled off into retirement.

Luckily for these sets, around the same time the E233-0 series (see here (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg575244;topicseen#msg575244) if you need a reminder ;) ) became due for an extensive mid-life refurbishment meaning a couple of sets would not be available, and the 209-1000s had just become surplus, so they were converted into Chuo Line orange and are providing a little variety. And Tomix were commendably quick to bring out a model.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on September 14, 2019, 07:37:22 PM
 :hellosign:.   :greatpicturessign:
   Thanks Ian for the latest very interesting and informative lesson   :beers:
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on September 17, 2019, 02:40:38 PM
Another segment of handy portable embankment emerges from a heap of styrofoam blocks...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48748822028_7c021703b4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgLspw)
single-track-embankment-2019-09-17_91 (https://flic.kr/p/2hgLspw) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on September 19, 2019, 03:57:07 PM
Having pimped up my elderly MacBook (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=670.msg590679#msg590679) I thought I'd see if it makes video editing a little smoother, and it does, so here some random scenes which were lying about on the camera's memory card.



Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtSidxT1Z28 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtSidxT1Z28)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on September 20, 2019, 10:33:48 AM
 :hellosign:
Many thanks Ian an excellent video of your very interesting trains.  :thankyousign: for sharing
      regards Derek.