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Title: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 27, 2017, 02:13:35 AM
 :hellosign:

Ages ago I introduced myself, and since then have been working on a layout in a small flight case.

I have been trying to sort out uploading pics for you but have got very confused in doing so.

I got some in a gallery, but that got a bit muddled, so will try one here and see what happens ...... here goes !!!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 27, 2017, 02:32:39 AM
 :confusedsign: :helpneededsign:

Nothing seems to have happened.

I clicked the "Add image to post and upload to gallery" bit and was waiting for a box to appear but it didn't.

Also back to my gallery, there is a little problem. The images are displayed in a backwards order. I want to have them in ascending order, but the default setting seems to be decending. Is there any way to change this permanently, as the first pics (1, 2, 3 etc) from when I started are not the first ones displayed, so you follow my progress backwards.

Am I making this clear  :confused1: :confused1: :confused1:

Anyway.....will have another try tomorrow

Kind regards

Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 27, 2017, 05:04:58 AM
 :claphappy:

Yea !

Couldn't sleep, so eventually sorted the gallery problem out by deleting everything, playing about and starting again, so now have a few galleries, each one a stage in my progress.

Awesome....now to try and get a pic here.

Fingers crossed xxxxx
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on October 27, 2017, 02:06:50 PM
Left click on the photo in your gallery and under the resultant larger image you will see a 'BB code'
Copy that code and paste it into your post (best to have 2 tabs of the forum open to do this)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: PeteW on October 27, 2017, 02:22:01 PM
Like this...
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-271017070456-573902059.jpeg)

Very impressive for N gauge!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 27, 2017, 04:48:11 PM
Hi Nobby,

Many thanks for your reply .... I will try that this evening, and hopefully it will work out OK, and I can get the thread going and show my progress.....successes and failures ..... and also give thanks to those on here who have helped and given me inspiration.

On that note, as a newbee to all this, I thought I would be asking all sorts of questions, but no. There is a seemingly bottomless mine of information here, so with a bottle of cider ( I am from the West Country !! ) and my finger almost wearing out the search button I have found the answers on this awesome forum  :)
So a huge thanks to everyone here for helping me negotiate this hobby of ours, and also....intentionally or not ..... make this forum a very entertaining place to browse.

Also thank you Pete for your kind comment re. my kit bashed Signal box. I have made a few changes, thanks to advice picked up here, and am just popping out to pick up a parcel containing amongst other things etched custom signs for this and the station, and some tiny cast fire buckets.

The only thing I have not learnt here is how to control buying lovely little things from those nice people in model shops  ::) ::)

With kind regards

Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Ditape on October 27, 2017, 04:55:24 PM

The only thing I have not learnt here is how to control buying lovely little things from those nice people in model shops  ::) ::)

With kind regards

Kevin
That's because we all have the same problem :laugh:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on October 27, 2017, 10:23:25 PM
I agree with PeteW. Very fine modelling indeed!  :thumbsup:

I assume it started off as a Ratio kit?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 30, 2017, 02:23:17 PM
Hi Di and Bealman,

Sorry not to have replied sooner, but the weekend was a bit busy. Saturday I went to Weymouth's annual model railway exhibition, so Sunday was spent playing with my new toys.

So Di, no one has told me how to stop spending on railway stuff, but glad I'm not the only one. The way I look at it is if I don't spend my money on my railway I will only waste it on stupid stuff like food and heating !!

Yes Bealman, the signal box was a Ratio kit. I really like their stuff, but as my layout has to fit in a case 21"(53cm) x 13.5"(34cm) everything has to be chopped up to fit.

Still puzzled about posting pics, but this might be the case ...

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=3199;u=5755 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=3199;u=5755)

Anyway, the weekend was spent with railways, so today is housework :(

With kind regards to all,

Kevin

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on October 30, 2017, 02:33:25 PM
Hello Kevin

Yes it was indeed the case.

This looks to be a splendid idea and I look forward to seeing how your project progresses.

With best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 30, 2017, 10:45:56 PM
Hi All,

I've managed to get links to some pics, but still not sure about getting actual pics on the thread..... anyway, let me tell you what I am trying to do.

This is the case I am aiming to get everything into, but I have a feeling I may be a bit optimistic in thinking all I want will fit.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-271017030253-573321644.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-271017034926-57337803.jpeg)

The case was designed to carry and protect drones, but with the insides removed, this is what I want ......Hold tight here's the list ....

1. I want a "roundy roundy layout, so I can watch the trains run.

2. 2 levels. One as a passenger line, the other as a goods line.

3. The passenger line needs a station, but as that will need to be inside the oval, I guess I need an access road with a level crossing to get to the station.

4. The level crossing will need a signal box and associated yard facilities.

5, I have a lovely windmill kit, which I want to build and motorise and put on a little hill (hence the layout name  ;))

6. A country pub would be nice.

7. I want some water... I think a canal would be pushing it, but a waterfall running down some rocks into a lake with fishing / boating facilities may work.

8. I enjoy making scenic elements, so meadows with sheep and cows and stuff, ie some sort of farming activity.

9. Allotments ????

10. I have seen some awesome layouts brought to life with lovely little cameo scenes, so I would like to do the same.

That should be enough !!!!

One other thing though.... I want to make the layout portable and self contained. Portable is ok, it's in a case  :doh: (my old woodwork teacher taught me anything can be made portable... all you need to do is stick a handle on it !! )

Self contained is different though. Obviously this means battery powered with controls etc all built in

Might as well have working lights as well if there are batteries included  :)

Well that is my wish list... There may be compromises on the way, what do you reckon ????

At the moment I have sorted the lower level, and am trying to work out the upper level. So far all my buildings (Station, Signal box, windmill, barn, pub, and boathouse have been kit bashed to fit. The only ones made exactly as they should be are these two.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-311017012158-574991487.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-311017012245-575001334.jpeg)

Anyway, that's all for now. I am slowly putting up galleries showing the stages I am going through, and will keep you updated with progress. At the moment I am having nightmares fitting all I want on the upper level.

I should have designed the case like the Tardis  :D :D

With all kind regards,

Kevin.

(Just edited to replace links with actual pics....just found out how to ! )

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on October 30, 2017, 11:09:57 PM
Wow, Kevin, that IS a list! How big's the case again?  :D :beers:

Regarding photos, if you look at your link above, then look under the picture, you'll see the BB code. Simply copy it, and paste it into your post like this, and Presto!  :thumbsup:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-301017223015-57487324.jpeg)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 31, 2017, 12:18:32 AM
Trying again with a pic I just took .....

Fingers Crossed XXXXXXXX

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-311017001418-574982242.jpeg)

Lets see if it works this time.

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: NinOz on October 31, 2017, 12:29:12 AM
Not meaning to be too critical but the weathering on the tweezers looks excessive.

CFJ
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on October 31, 2017, 12:30:27 AM
 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 31, 2017, 12:31:36 AM
 :claphappy: :claphappy: :claphappy:

Yay.... I am still a bit confused though, Newport Nobby told me the same and nothing, now I can do it .

All this computer stuff is still magic to me  :confused1:

Anyway I hope you don't mind me posting some more pics as I go, now I am on a roll :beers:

That pic should probably be "on my workbench" as that is where it is .... I just put together and painted these tiny tiny fire buckets. These are wall mounted, and will go on my signal box tomorrow , and I have another set on a stand , prob for the station

SO fidley to paint. I didn't do the lettering  ::), just a small dash of white to suggest it

Take care all,

tomorrow I will continue trying to cram a quart in a pint pot !!

With kind regards

Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on October 31, 2017, 12:36:44 AM
I didn't do the lettering  ::), just a small dash of white to suggest it



You are too critical - I can clearly see the letters Elizabeth II.   :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 31, 2017, 12:43:54 AM
Ha, you are right...

tweezers are my "go to" tool for literally everything I do, so boy do they get some abuse.

Crazy thing is I have a lovely precision pair that I am frightened to use in case I spoil them.

Kind regards

Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 31, 2017, 12:49:36 AM
Have you been at the Jameson's Danny ????

(I am having a swift nightcap of J.D. so cheers me Dear  :beers: )

With kind regards
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on October 31, 2017, 12:54:19 AM
Unfortunately not - I am working at work, but I will wait until the weekend and then I have to decide whether it is the Teachers or the Jura  :), but enjoy your J.D.  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on October 31, 2017, 01:39:04 AM
Very nice fire buckets!   :thumbsup:

Glad you've got the pics sorted. Night night - I'm off for lunch!  :beers: :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on October 31, 2017, 05:57:54 AM
Hi Kevin,

Glad you got the pics sorted. I am intrigued at how your going to the 2 level track so you can see it, let alone everything else you have planned, so looking forward to more and....

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/fb/fb0b2527c77639a084af136144dff6eab5d6b53f314198a1fb6283c263e06a31.jpg (http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/fb/fb0b2527c77639a084af136144dff6eab5d6b53f314198a1fb6283c263e06a31.jpg)

Cheers weave  :beers: (fellow cider imbiber from 'ampshire).
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on October 31, 2017, 07:04:04 AM
I see that next months budget is also included in the photo of the nicely weathered tweezers!  :)

Ambitious plans Kevin, looking forward to progress pictures (you will master posting pictures...)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: The Q on October 31, 2017, 12:52:25 PM
Does it have to be a wind Mill and not a wind pump?
http://www.nationalmillsweekend.co.uk/images_windmills/thurnedyke.jpg (http://www.nationalmillsweekend.co.uk/images_windmills/thurnedyke.jpg)
The only difference is you have a lower dyke to be pumped out one side and into a river slightly higher the other. that way you combine the water and mill...
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 31, 2017, 02:47:55 PM
Afternoon All,

Last night I finished off the detailing of the kit bashed Ratio Signal box.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-311017142041-575012281.jpeg)

Photos really do show up the blemishes and mistakes.... next photos I think I will take from a long long way away !!

This is the station it will be with, also a kit bashed Ratio kit.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-271017042311-573621487.jpeg)

I made the station first, before I knew about GWR branding and station colour schemes, so painted it randomly, so I needed to repaint it in these colours. This is how it originally looked.....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-271017042203-573581443.jpeg)

I have made a gallery showing how I put the signal box together here

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=3203;u=5755 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=3203;u=5755)

And this is a gallery on my adventures with the station, kit bashing , repaints and all !

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=3201;u=5755 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=3201;u=5755)

With kind regards
Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on October 31, 2017, 03:07:04 PM
Kevin

Very nice modelling indeed.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 31, 2017, 10:46:58 PM
Thank you The Q for your help, but one thing I did not mention as it is a bit personal. I spent so many happy times over many years with some very awesome friends in Brixham, Devon. Ian is no longer with us, but we lived on Windmill Hill, , and although the Windmill is no longer standing, the first model for my layout was a Windmill, not kit bashed to fit, but kit bashed for personal reasons
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 31, 2017, 11:22:44 PM
Hi Weave

It has all been very dangerous to make it work. the lower loop has a radius that my 5700 panier is happy with, but the separate upper level has an oval less than 4" radius, and I wanted a steam loco to run it.

The danger was, getting the tiniest loco to run that loop, and so girding my loins, I ground the  flanges off the middle wheels of my Dapol Terrier.

Yay !!!!

Now it works,

Kind regards
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 01, 2017, 05:50:13 PM
Hi,

Hope all is well and you all had a good Halloween.

While I was photographing my layout to show you how it is all fitting together, a few zombies struggled on to the track  :o  :o  :o

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-011117174557-57542801.jpeg)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on November 01, 2017, 06:24:47 PM
Őžiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Have been able to get rid ofthose zombies?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 01, 2017, 10:17:23 PM
Hi Alexander,

I'm scared to look ......... but I have called for Scooby  Doo, so I should be O.K.  :uneasy:

Happy Halloween !
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 04, 2017, 10:26:53 PM
The Board, Track, Road and Tunnels.

This is the board I made, from 6mm ply topped with cork, and an oval of flextrack laid.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-271017040910-57347894.jpeg)

With he track ballasted, the tunnel portals were then fixed in place. This one is a Woodland Scenic plaster one.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-311017150302-57505207.jpeg)

The other was a Peco one. For some reason I used a double one, which was too big, so I replaced it with this one.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-311017151254-57518988.jpeg)

The road to access the station and yard was made, and this is a gallery showing how it was made.

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=3202;u=5755 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=3202;u=5755)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-291017014738-574022440.jpeg)

I made the bridge over the road from plasticard

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-311017233722-575191041.jpeg)

Then painted and assembled it

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-311017234317-57535106.jpeg)

The road ran straight into the battery used to power the layout, so an idea I picked up from here was to use a mirror, which I mounted like this.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-311017234424-575371451.jpeg)

With a bit of careful placing of scenery, the plan worked.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-311017234415-575361471.jpeg)

However, as you can see with this view, care must be taken with placing things too close to the mirror.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-311017234540-57538920.jpeg)

Then with road markings added this was the finished result.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-311017234606-57539899.jpeg)

Then with the 3 portals in place, I was able to size up the board for the upper level, where I am aiming to fit the windmill, pub, and water (pond?)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-041117221126-57725807.jpeg)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: zwilnik on November 04, 2017, 10:34:31 PM
Totally pinching the mirror idea for Ivebridge which has similar edge of layout issues. Great idea!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 04, 2017, 11:11:00 PM
You're very welcome. The idea came from the forum somewhere, so many thanks to whoever first suggested it.  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on November 05, 2017, 12:15:18 AM
So that is actually half a phone booth? Clever!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on November 05, 2017, 09:32:00 AM
Hello Kevin

Just to say how much I am enjoying reading your posts.  It is amazing what you are achieving in a space of 21" x 13.5".

I am absorbing ideas to use on my Table-Top Railway Mk II, which at 30" x 24" is positively spacious in comparison.

Thanks again and all best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on November 05, 2017, 11:03:43 AM
I'm fascinated by what you're achieving in such a small space :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 05, 2017, 11:51:59 AM
Morning all !

Yes Bealman, the phone box was split in half, and I have since put a little person inside. The guy waiting outside had to be positioned carefully otherwise he would have had a twin on the other side !

Thanks John and Nobby for your kind remarks. For the next stage I will find the photos and show how I made the backscene support, and wired the electrics up for self contained running from a battery.

Have a lovely Sunday lunch
 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 08, 2017, 01:21:47 PM
l :hellosign:

With the top board now cut to shape, it was time to fit the backscene board. I wanted to sort this out before fixing anything down permanently, as this would contain the layout and with such a small space I needed to know exactly how much area I had to play with.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-061117193523-577491654.jpeg)

One of my pet hates is "clouds with corners" so I rounded the back corners of the baseboards

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-061117193621-578111120.jpeg)

I decided to make the board of 2mm thick ABS sheet. the theory was that if I heat it, it should bend round the corners. I cleared my workbench, and cut the sheet to the right height, and just a little longer than needed. Then out came a fan heater to apply the heat needed.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-081117045739-578891525.jpeg)

The first corner worked OK. I screwed the sheet along the short side of the baseboard, gently applied heat, bent it round the corner little by little, and screwed it in place along the back edge.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-061117193752-578132479.jpeg)

The same was then done for the other corner. The tape was used to keep the top of the bend in shape while the ABS sheet was cooling

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-081117050956-57890417.jpeg)

This then gave me a 3 sided box to contain the layout, and show me exactly how much space I had to play with ...... not much !

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-081117044323-578596.jpeg)

Then to open things out a bit I shaped the two side edges.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-081117044752-578881491.jpeg)

Next an access hole was cut in the back. I think I may also have to fit some kind of barrier there as well.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-061117194204-578181758.jpeg)

And one last thing.... better check it fits the case !

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-061117194134-578171794.jpeg)

Well that's that. I hope you found it interesting. Time now to put the kettle on, then I will post the top level track, and how I wired it up for battery and/or mains power.

back soon

With kind regards
Kevin. :)



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on November 08, 2017, 01:28:47 PM
Hi,

Very interesting and lovely, neat work.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on November 08, 2017, 02:03:41 PM
Fascinating!

Yes: I agree that a barrier to cover the access hole would be a good idea.

All the best.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 08, 2017, 03:35:16 PM
Hi All,

Suitably refreshed and ready to go, and thank you Weave and John for your comments. I especially liked the neat work comment. I try to keep my work neat, but you should see the state of  my room....neat is the very last word I'd use to describe it. I spend more time looking for stuff than modelling with it  :confused1:

Anyway, after lots of very careful adjusting I laid an oval of track on the "top shelf". You may have spotted a gaugemaster controller which I have been using to test the track for good running.

Incidentally, talking of running. I have a Dapol 57XX for the lower level, and have had bad problems with it. I had to return the first to DCC supplies, who were very helpful, but have just had to send the second back. I have heard these locos can be a bit tempremental, but are there any special requirements peculiar to it ??? When the 2nd replacement arrives I really want it to run well as it is a lovely looking loco, and I am a bit limited to what will run round that little oval of track.

But back on topic ........

This is the top shelf track laid.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-071117133502-578331686.jpeg)

I wanted to have the layout totally self contained (so I can take it to the Pub  :beers:), running off a rechargeable battery hidden between the two levels, but with the option of plugging in the charger/transformer so It can run from mains power if that is available. This is the battery and charger I am using, which was used years ago for something completely different, but still works fine, although the battery is a bit heavy.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-291017181612-574482397.jpeg)

I mounted the battery on a plywood base, screwed from underneath through a hole in the  bottom baseboard so I can remove it if need be. Wires were then taken to a socket on the short side of the layout for the charger to plug in, and also to an on/off rocker switch.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-071117133613-578411040.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-071117134041-578462025.jpeg)

I had hoped to mount these controllers from Medvend somewhere on the layout, but no there is really no space at all for them  :( However I am sure I will use them for something else.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-071117133738-57843301.jpeg)

So another plan was needed. I saw a thread on here about wireless controllers, so I did a bit of research, and these were what I ended up with.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-071117133929-57845945.jpeg)

The receiver was a bit too fat to fit under the board as is, so I cut a recess and held the receiver in place with Velcro.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-071117133911-578441510.jpeg)

Then everything was wired up. The instructions were really clear, and the system works like a dream and Ian at www.bluerailways.co.uk (http://www.bluerailways.co.uk) was really helpful over the phone in answering any questions.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-071117134237-57849424.jpeg)

So there we have it. I have 2 tracks for 2 trains to run....just need to fit everything else in  :hmmm:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-071117133502-578331686.jpeg)

P.S. This is the little panel on the side, removable in case I need to get at anything.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-071117134232-578481998.jpeg)

(Edited with a P.S.)

With kind regards
Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on November 08, 2017, 04:01:17 PM
Absolutely fascinating thread, and excellent and ingenious work throughout, Kevin. :thumbsup:

Looking forward to seeing the finished layout .

Gives a whole new meaning to travel luggage that has the label 'Wanted on board' on the lid. :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on November 08, 2017, 04:18:40 PM
Amazing stuff, Kevin

The 'Yuasa' battery looks similar to those that I have seen on motorcycles.  They were good.

I'm following your comments on the Dapol locomotive with interest as my steam fleet is Union Mills and Peco.

The portability is exactly what I am attempting to achieve on the Table-Top Railway MkII, but you have far exceeded what I have managed.

By the way; how do you clean the track in the tunnels?

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 08, 2017, 08:06:06 PM
Thanks Daffy,

I do appreciate your comments, It won't be long before some building and scenic work gets going, so will look more like a layout.

At the moment though, nothing is fixed apart from the track, road and tunnels.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 08, 2017, 08:30:05 PM
Hi John,

I'm glad you are enjoying following what I am up to. As posting pics goes, I am running out of stored pics of what has been built. All I have done that you have not seen yet is sculptamould modelling of scenic features on the top level as I do not want it to look like just a shelf over the bottom level, I want it to look more integrated.

Then everything posted will be as done in real time.

I am getting a replacement Dapol 57XX from Rails of Sheffield as soon as they get one in stock. I have had excellent customer service from them, and a couple of weeks ago they had a Graham Farish 64XX really well priced, so instead of going to the Pub on the Saturday night, I stayed in, and the money I saved bought me the loco, and it is running beautifully.  :thumbsup:

As far as track cleaning, the front and back are no problem, I can easily reach them. It is just a short section at each end that is covered, and I am using a sponge on a stick for that.

I have spotted one of these though.

http://www.mill-lane-sidings.co.uk/mlstrackmop.html (http://www.mill-lane-sidings.co.uk/mlstrackmop.html)

Has anyone tried it ????????

With kind regards
Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on November 08, 2017, 11:00:39 PM
Some excellent work, and not a little ingenuity Kevin. As regards your comment about neat working, but having an 'un-neat' work room, that  struck a chord with me, (and, I suspect, a few others  ;)).
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on November 09, 2017, 07:49:45 AM
 :thankyousign: for a very ingenious layout and great descriptions of how everything has been achieved!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: PostModN66 on November 09, 2017, 08:40:22 AM
Hi Kevin,

Very nice work, and an interesting project - I really like small layouts!

I am interested in the MedVend controllers; a) How did you acquire them (I have only found them on an American Z Gauge website) and b) what are they like in use?

Cheers Jon  :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on November 09, 2017, 12:47:37 PM
Great work Kevin, really enjoyed following your thread - the detailing on the signal box and station is ace.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 09, 2017, 03:18:08 PM
Hi all,

Thank you so much for all your interest and kind words about what I am trying to cram into my little box, and thanks to all who have contributed to the huge mine of information here that has made it possible

 :NGaugersRule:

I hope later this evening to put up some pics of the lower level with buildings and scenery. Just placed in position nothing will be fixed 'till I run it past you guys.

PS. Jon, I have sent you a message re. Medvend controllers.

With kind regards
Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Pjlons83 on November 09, 2017, 07:39:42 PM
Great thread. Love the mirror under the bridge.

Great work!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 09, 2017, 08:19:20 PM
Hi all,

Lets see how it all fits together ........

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-091117191241-57917966.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-091117191703-579442054.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-091117191617-579432103.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-091117191610-579421870.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-091117191458-57941283.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-091117191453-579401488.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-091117191349-579391772.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-091117191326-579381183.jpeg)

Well it seems O.K. although a lot of concessions have had to be made to get it all in. There is a  HUGE gap between coach and platform but is not noticed when the train is in as it is on the blind side when viewing. I am running a corridor coach though, so all the little people will have to rush along to the centre doors to get out.

The access road to the station is a bit dodgy, and the embankments are practically vertical, but viewed as a whole it seems to work.

Nothing however, apart from track and ballast, roads, and tunnels is fixed down, as I wanted to run a few things past you guys first. Your comments and criticism would be
very welcome. Specifically ......

1. I want to use static grass, not that nasty scatter I have sprinkled down. I guess 2mm and 4mm would be the right length.....maybe longer for the embankment ??

2. The stairs from the signal box run right down almost to the track. Would a short length of railing along the track at that point be a good idea ???

3. I think a crossing is needed over the track. Any input for the best position.

4. I will use chain link fence between yard and pavement from the road tunnel to crossing gates. Not sure of positions for lamp posts though.

5.Really uncertain whether to have side "Wing" retaining walls on the "Tunnel to Nowhere" I could use them, or continue the wooden sleeper fence behind the signal box to the brick support on the yard side, and just run the embankment greenery to the support on the station side. This is the option I am favouring.

6. Just a little point. Is the station sign on the lamp post OK. I have 2, so not sure whether to use one or both. I can't seem to think of anywhere else I can put them without removing the benches.

7. are any trackside signs, signals needed anywhere ????

Anyway I hope you enjoy the pics, and look forward to your input.

With all best wishes
Kevin.

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on November 09, 2017, 08:29:04 PM
 :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on November 09, 2017, 08:45:57 PM
Lovely photographs and really great detailing.
I love the little cameo scenes on the platform.
Personally, I think that station name board would look better attached to the railing. As for signals, as you have the box (presumably controlling the level crossing) you ought to have a couple of signals. Iím sure others can best advise on location.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 09, 2017, 09:08:23 PM
Hi there,

Thank you for your reply, and kind words.

You're right....the only other place I could think of for the name boards was on the railings, but thought that maybe a bit too far back, but they, or one anyway may well end up there.

As for signals, I really should have them, as even though it is cut down, that is a big box just for the level crossing but I do need someone to advise me on that  :hmmm:

With kind regards
Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 10, 2017, 08:21:02 PM
Hi Port Perran,

 :thankyousign:

I tried your idea out, and yes, I think it works. Even with the bicycle up against the railings it is not obscured. The thing that was worrying me was it may be too far back, but I think that is OK.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-101117200922-57945802.jpeg)

(Just a quick photo, excuse it being a bit out of focus)

Has anyone else any input re the other bits and pieces I was not sure about ?

Kind regards to all
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on November 10, 2017, 08:35:11 PM
A lovely little layout.
My twopenneth input. Leave the tunnel wing off and run the fencing to the tunnel mouth. No fence in front of the signal box. The signalman needs access to the track. No crossing, use the level crossing. A fascia board to cover the frame and a "mini" backscene behind the signal box and station. I think that's about it. :D. I hope it's helpful.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 10, 2017, 08:56:45 PM
Hi Mito,

Flippin' Heck ..... That was quick  :)

Many thanks, The Tunnel wings were my main concern as the embankments are my next step to do tomorrow. I'm glad you said what you did, as that's what my thoughts were, but its nice to have someone with a bit more experience to confirm it.

Out with the Sculptamold tomorrow !!!

Also I have just ordered a sky backdrop to cover the whole of the black background, and a countryside gaugemaster backdrop to add fields etc to it. I hope that will work.

Oh, yes there will be a front facia, which will have the switches for the lights and windmill sails :thumbsup:

Once again thanks,

Hope the weather is better where you are.... grotty here

Kind regards
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on November 10, 2017, 09:07:52 PM
Don't bank on the "more experience"! I'm the Large Chicken :)-up king.
Sunny weather here but cool. Temperatures below 20C. Even had the fire on for the last couple of evenings.
These chickens get everywhere, at least cockerels do.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 14, 2017, 02:53:21 PM
At last..... The windmill !

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-111117143137-579961737.jpeg)

This was the first model I made and was going to be on a big grown up layout, until I decided on this one. However, it had a 16v AC motor, which was no good here.

This meant going back to Osborns, and getting a new one to build, which I did, and it went together well. To give it a bit more texture, and take away the plastic look it had even after painting, I covered the top section with sand.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-111117143300-57997721.jpeg)

Next was to find a way of powering it. I found this 5rpm motor from China on e-bay, and it runs off 3v.....Ideal  :)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-161117095903-582011784.jpeg)

Grrrrrr  >:(  Not ideal. Tested with a couple of batteries taped together, the motor works fine, and the speed is good, not too fast for it to take off ! Unfortunately it won't fit in the windmill.....I need a change of plan.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-111117143417-579981944.jpeg)

What I had to do was mount the motor underneath the mill, which meant it having to go through a hole in the top baseboard. I can see there may be trouble ahead ! The white plastic tube is a drive shaft glued to the motor drive, at one end, and the gearing for the sails at the other.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-111117143436-579992317.jpeg)

The little wooden wedge holds the motor at the right angle to connect with the sail gearing, as the sails are not vertical. They are at a slight angle to stop them fouling on the building walls.

Here it is all connected and ready for action

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-111117143528-58000632.jpeg)

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on November 14, 2017, 05:43:35 PM
Great improvisation, nice touch with the sand
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: PostModN66 on November 14, 2017, 08:25:30 PM
Hi Kevin,

Nice work! 

But the pictures intrigued me as I thought, why would the sails turn (in real life) when they are just an open framework with no surface to catch the wind?  I have come across windmills with "shutters" before, but not one like you have. 

I then found this by Googling which shows the framework like on your windmill, but with canvas sails to convert the framework into an aerodynamic surface:

http://www.goingplacesuk.com/waking-the-windmill-weekend-at-avoncroft-museum/ (http://www.goingplacesuk.com/waking-the-windmill-weekend-at-avoncroft-museum/)

You might well know all this, but I learned something!  Are you going to add the canvas to your sails?

Cheers Jon  :)

PS: Looking forward to the MedVends!!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 14, 2017, 11:56:46 PM
Hi Jon.

I really have no idea how these things work.

My Mothers family  were all from Sussex, and as a child the Windmills I watched all looked like this, and when I lived and worked in Brixham, Devon I lived on Windmill Hill, so this layout is a little tribute to my friends there. The Windmill there was like this, so I am a very confused bunny.

Also I Googled "Windmills, Southern England" and found none with canvas,  but as you say, with no surface area as such, how does it happen that the sails turn, let alone provide a useful power .

"It's  a kinda Magic !!"

All kind regards
Kevin





Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 15, 2017, 01:03:29 AM
Putting the upper level together....

These were the buildings I had to accommodate...

The Windmill

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-111117143528-58000632.jpeg)

The Pub

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-131117125438-580852022.jpeg)

And the Boathouse

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117000857-581381388.jpeg)

So with those buildings ready, and knowing where the track was, This foamboard template was attacked with Cider fuelled felt tips  :claphappy:

I am far better with felt tips and crayons than set squares and compasses. I do believe you get a far more natural feel with broad strokes, and once you have that organic plan, the fine details will work out later.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117003106-58142457.jpeg)

so........

1. A country road behind a dry stone wall. A bus will run along the road, and thanks to a lovely photo from someone here for inspiration. When I recall who I will give all due credit.

2. The Windmill.... on a hill !

3. A little barn, on the entrance from the road to the main scene.

4. Room for Greenhouse....Allotments maybe ?

5. The Pub, with patio for outside tables.

6. Access road to get into the inside of the oval, and reach the pub.

7. A Boathouse with facilities on the lake.

8. Rocky outcrops. Scenic effects to try and disguise the fact that the little oval is just that no more, and the engine driver will have severe problems with giddiness !!

9. Not sure yet... maybe a bridge for the access road to go over the track, or maybe a crossing. Favouring a bridge.

10. Boating lake.... Scenic pond ..... Just a bit of a puddle..... lets see what space we have.

11. Camping.... Tents..... towed caravan ?????????





Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 15, 2017, 01:44:08 AM
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117003118-58143851.jpeg)

Yay! ....  might work  :hmmm:  :worried:  :hmmm:

With kind regards
Kevin


Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on November 15, 2017, 07:50:20 AM
Cracking stuff, great detailing ... long live the Sharpie :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on November 15, 2017, 08:37:10 AM
Why not pack the oval into a tunnel reaching from the leftmost "stone" to the road-crossing, there you could combine the tunnel-and the bridge.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: PostModN66 on November 15, 2017, 09:17:40 AM
More on Windmills:  You have aroused my interest!

Doing some Googling it seems there are two main types "Common sails" which are like yours, which need canvas sails to work.  In the Wikipedia entry for "windmill sails" there is a useful diagram showing how the sails are set.  They can be "reefed" - different ways of folding them to reduce area for strong winds.

I have found one with common sails  in Sussex - Halnaker near Chichester. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halnaker_Windmill (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halnaker_Windmill)

There are also quite a few around where I live, judging from the photographs, Lacey Green, Brill and Pitstone. A good excuse for a cycling route next weekend.

The other slatted type either "Patent" or "Sprung" which seem to be the majority of windmills in the UK - I guess that as technology advanced old windmills were converted to these improved  types.

An interesting windmill is at Great Grandsden - this has two common sails and two slatted types, so you can easily see the difference!

http://www.nationalmillsweekend.co.uk/pages_wind/greatgransden.htm (http://www.nationalmillsweekend.co.uk/pages_wind/greatgransden.htm)

It seems quite rare to see windmills with common sails with the sails actually set in the UK, though there are lots of pics on the internet of examples in other countries.

Hope this is of interest

Cheers. Jon  :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 15, 2017, 12:02:48 PM
Hi Jon,

I was a bit tired last night after I posted, but this morning I have been following up your info re windmill sails. Thank you so much. It has been really interesting to read, and I feel bad, as I should really have done the homework myself  :-[

I guess I should add the canvas on my "common sails" as they will be moving. It should not be too difficult as the sails are not yet fixed on the mill as I did not want them to get damaged.

I think tissue paper, or baby wipes should work. I will look on the threads for tarpaulins, and see what people are using. A similar technique should work here.

Once again thank you for your input  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Also the controllers should be with you today. I posted them Monday afternoon so you should receive them today...I hope they will be OK for you.

With all best wishes
Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 15, 2017, 12:16:22 PM
Hello Alexander.

That is what I may do. I don't want to enclose too much of the track, but I have the Sculptamold out this afternoon to model the embankments and the top level, so lets see what happens.

I have some cork bark for rocks that I have been playing with, but I was not too happy with that, so I bought these foam rocks .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117121212-58144974.jpeg)

Anyway... off to find a mixing bowl, and I will keep you posted on how things work out  :)

With kind regards
Kevin.



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: PostModN66 on November 15, 2017, 12:21:44 PM
I was a bit tired last night after I posted, but this morning I have been following up your info re windmill sails. Thank you so much. It has been really interesting to read, and I feel bad, as I should really have done the homework myself  :-[

Hey Kevin, don't feel bad, I am really interested in this kind of thing so I enjoyed doing it and enriching my own knowledge. I'm really pleased if it has been helpful.   I will view the windmills I pass when cycling in a slightly different light now.

Post lady just called and dropped a couple a parcels; but they were bicycle parts not controllers.  Fingers crossed I'll get them tomorrow.

By the way, I love all your detailing work.  The pub looks great, the people in very realistic poses and finely done; it looks like it could be a much bigger scale.

Cheers Jon  :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JanW on November 15, 2017, 01:00:32 PM
Living in Holland I'm quite amused by this conversation about windmills  :D
I'm afraid Faller don't produce British windmill models, this one is clearly based on a Dutch prototype!
And it seems we have magical winds blowing through our country which can set windmills without sails in action :claphappy:


To be a bit more serious: Dutch windmills only use sails when there is not enough wind.
As you can see the wings are profiled with wooden boards that catch the wind. Possibly the white parts on your model were intended to represent these boards?

Jan
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: PostModN66 on November 15, 2017, 01:34:57 PM
Living in Holland I'm quite amused by this conversation about windmills  :D
I'm afraid Faller don't produce British windmill models, this one is clearly based on a Dutch prototype!
And it seems we have magical winds blowing through our country which can set windmills without sails in action :claphappy:
To be a bit more serious: Dutch windmills only use sails when there is not enough wind.
As you can see the wings are profiled with wooden boards that catch the wind. Possibly the white parts on your model were intended to represent these boards?

Interesting....as you say this windmill has an aerodynamic surface for the first part of the chord which is somewhat like the aerofoil-shaped masts of some modern racing yachts.  The ones on Kevin's model look more like they are at 90deg to the airflow, so they would act as airbrakes rather than wings...at least from the photos...

Cheers. Jon  :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 15, 2017, 03:52:05 PM
 :claphappy: Yay !   :claphappy:

Confirmation from Holland ....... Windmills are Magic !!!!

That is a great video Jan, thank you for posting that, it seems to be just the same as the Faller model, and will certainly help with the detailing, and as you say, it looks like the white parts on my model are the boards shown in the video.

Thanks again for your help

With all best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 16, 2017, 10:35:46 AM
 >:(  Grrr   >:(

The problem I thought may happen with the windmill has happened....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117193251-58186139.jpeg)

The motor below the board is going to clash with underboard stuff, like track, but if I raise the mill too high, the sails will be above the backscene height, and the case lid won't close  :confused2:

So I tried raising the height of the mill, by building a little hill from foamboard. Seems OK, as after all, the layout is Windmill Hill

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117193703-58191938.jpeg)

This raised the motor high enough to give clearance for the train.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117193619-581891287.jpeg)

Then Sculptamold was used to smooth off the hill, and fine sandpaper glued on for the road.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117193325-58187980.jpeg)

I've never used sculptamold before, and I was surprised how clean it is to use. Also, a great throw away mixing bowl can be made from the bottom of a milk carton.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117194420-58199310.jpeg)

Next step is the rocky area on the other corner. I made a bridge for the access road from spare bits of a viaduct kit, and bits of plastic strip, strut and card.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117193831-581922412.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117193844-581942424.jpeg)

I will sort out, and put some pics up later showing how that corner turned out.

With kind regards
Kevin

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 16, 2017, 07:28:40 PM
Hi All,

Today has been fairly busy, although not that much seems to have been achieved .... I do have quite a few days like that though !

Mainly been tidying up, taking photos, and the result of that is now the posted pics have caught up with real life, so now it's all happening in real time  :)

You've seen the windmill being fixed, and bridge built, so next is how the rock formation went.

I did have some cork bark, but on reflection did not like it that much, so I bought some of these foam formed rocks

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117193833-58193325.jpeg)

With a bit of chopping up, and filling with Das, the basic formation worked out, although it very nearly ended as a tunnel.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117194046-581951754.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117194048-58196582.jpeg)

The road was made of fine sandpaper, and runs down to a car park, (quite tiny, but as it is screened from view, no one can see how small it is) behind the pub.

The front patio / rear car park of the pub is cut from a lino floor tile.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117194240-581981434.jpeg)

With all that done, I could now cut the hole for the pond, and make a sloped beach up to the boathouse.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117194237-581972279.jpeg)

The bits of string are to pull through the wires for the lighting in the boathouse and pub.

The last two features to mould were the embankments.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-161117191709-582441861.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-161117191631-582401959.jpeg)

A bit steep, but space dictates a lot of decisions here  :worried:

With kind regards
Kevin.

PS Just going to put the kettle on then have some pics took today with buildings and a few scenic bits

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 16, 2017, 09:14:10 PM
Hello .... Back again.

These are the pics I took today, which brings us bang up to date  :)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-231117100533-584532112.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-231117100550-584541548.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-231117100742-58455119.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-231117101737-584581759.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-231117101738-58459845.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-231117101442-58457325.jpeg)

Tomorrow I am aiming to paint a base coat of "Earth Colours" over the whole area, and ballast the upper track, but before that, I would like to ask a for bit of advice please.

I am a bit unsure about the "Firestone" bridge, and whether it should have just one plate side, or one each side of the track. To my mind it looks wrong with just the one, and my research seems to suggest they were made in a U form, with girders each side of the track. But then the more research you do, you start coming up with conflicting views, which has been making my brain hurt.

 :helpneededsign:

Anyway, I made a second girder, and photographed with / without pics, so what do you reckon. I tend to favour one each side of the track.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-231117093340-5845163.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-231117093415-58452488.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-231117092158-58449984.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-231117093245-584501171.jpeg)

Anyway, would appreciate your advice, and any other input before I crack on tomorrow.

With kind regards
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on November 16, 2017, 09:30:30 PM
I know what you mean about the plate girders and my first reaction is there has to be one each side of the track, but on such a small layout two seems to make things too cluttered :-\
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 16, 2017, 09:43:04 PM
Cheers Nobby (Is it Mick ? .... I'm just starting to match names up)  :)

I really am undecided about this, but will see how things progress. As you say though, I don't want to clutter things up, and will go with what looks best.

 :thankyousign:

Kind regards
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on November 16, 2017, 09:45:13 PM
Hi Kevin
My vote - girder on each side.
And....itís looking  brilliant.
Martin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on November 16, 2017, 09:48:33 PM
I have to say that a girder on each side looks more natural and the 'norm'.  And a good looking layout to boot.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 16, 2017, 10:02:29 PM
Thanks Guys,

I really do appreciate your input, and kind words re my little layout. For the first time today, it is actually looking like something. I hope to get some paint and ballast down on the "Top Shelf", and I should get the backscene stuff over the weekend, so  :beers:

Oh, and it all works, although the windmill is a bit noisy. not sure why though as it was quiet before installation. Maybe its reverberating round the hollow hill and baseboard.  :hmmm:

Like Mick said I don't want to clutter the place up, but it just doesn't look right without the other plate, so I think that is the way to go.

Many thanks
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on November 17, 2017, 06:38:43 AM
I agree.  Two girders looks better.  It reminds me of the old Alvis bridge in Coventry.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on November 17, 2017, 07:04:41 AM
Hi Kevin,

Does it make this sound as it seems quite prototypical  :D....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyz_jv_xiB8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyz_jv_xiB8)

Seriously, all looking great. Think you've made up your mind but my vote is for 2 girders too.

Looking forward to more.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on November 17, 2017, 09:12:29 AM
Great stuff  :thumbsup: and it looks like you're enjoying the build.

Also your use of bits and pieces such as the lino tile and the 'mixing bowl' are handy tips.

I had a motorised windmill on my very first N gauge layout years ago, all now sadly gone. Where did your come from, please?

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 17, 2017, 12:28:38 PM
 :hellosign:

Thanks for all your help, and yes, two girders it is :thumbsup:

Love the Windy Miller clip Weave.... brings back lots of memories. I met Brian Cant a few times when a mate of mine was company manager for a play he was in. What a lovely and funny man he was.

Hi Dave, the windmill I got was this one ....
 https://www.faller.de/App/WebObjects/XSeMIPS.woa/cms/page/pid.14.17.89/agid.1128.1196.1255/atid.1468/ecm.at/Windmill.html (https://www.faller.de/App/WebObjects/XSeMIPS.woa/cms/page/pid.14.17.89/agid.1128.1196.1255/atid.1468/ecm.at/Windmill.html)

The recommended motor, which fits inside the mill, you can buy from them. Unfortunately it is 16v AC. which would not suit me as my set up is battery powered.

The Faller kits are really nice, but on a UK layout you have to choose carefully what looks, or can be adapted to look British.

I got mine from http://www.osbornsmodels.com/n-scale-superstore-n-2-c.asp (http://www.osbornsmodels.com/n-scale-superstore-n-2-c.asp)

With all kind regards,
Kevin



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on November 17, 2017, 06:43:11 PM
A bit late but yes two girders. And what a super little layout. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 17, 2017, 07:58:15 PM
Thanks Mito,

As you see I have carried the fence along behind the signal box, and the second girder is now well and truly glued down. ;)

10% of today has been painting, with the other 90% waiting for paint to dry. I have got the base colours down all over, and been concentrating on painting the rocks, after watching a tutorial from Mel, the Terrain Tutor, a war-gamer who has some great scenery tutorials.

I've been painting, waiting for it to dry, stippling layers, waiting for them to dry,  applying washes, waiting for them to dry, and on and on ...... looking good though  :thumbsup:

The ballasting I hope to do tonight.

Also I have ordered a static grass applicator, and all sorts of grass, so when that arrives next week, I'll have a new toy to play with. :D

All best wishes,
Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 18, 2017, 03:39:05 PM
Hi All,

Yesterday out came the paints and brushes, and I was amazed at how a base coat of paint can tie everything together. I can't wait to get going with the static grass  :)

The grass I have on order is 2mm and 4mm, and an "Embankment kit". so I guess that should be OK for N gauge. I am lucky that with such a small layout, sample packs should do my whole area !!

Unfortunately I did not get round to ballasting, as I had a few clearance issues around the bridge area in the back right corner that needed sorting out.

Anyway, here are the pics, see what you think .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-181117144750-58255874.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-181117144816-582671542.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-181117144956-582682340.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-181117145024-582702184.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-181117145200-582712493.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-181117145228-582721050.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-181117145436-58273954.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-181117145442-582741897.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-181117145642-582751300.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-181117145649-58276223.jpeg)

With kind regards,
Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on November 18, 2017, 04:08:18 PM
Kevin, that's absolutely fabulous.

I think that this is lovely little layout, which is a great ambassador for British 'N' gauge.

 :greatpicturessign: :superblayout:

Congratulations!

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on November 18, 2017, 04:34:09 PM
I agree. Lovely work. Very well done. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on November 18, 2017, 05:28:13 PM
Most impressive, and good to see the pub doing healthy trade :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on November 18, 2017, 05:48:58 PM
Fantastic!

What radius have the two ovals?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 18, 2017, 09:46:23 PM
Hello and thank you,

I would not have been able to do this without the awesome information here.

I still  haven't ballasted the top bit yet, as I had to go to town to get some DAS to fill in a few bits, and while there I thought I would do a bit of research for the pub.

As it will be lit, I need an interior, so I thought while in town we have two Wetherspoons pubs, so If I go to get their magazines, I could cut out pics for the interiors. It would have been rude not to have enjoyed their hospitality. One thing led to another.....

No work on the layout tonight  :worried:

Thank you all for your kindness, and Alexander, all the track is Flextrack, and I will measure the curves for you tomorrow, when I am not  likely to do any damage  :-[

With all loveliness to you
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 19, 2017, 02:15:39 PM
Hi Alexander,

Both the ovals are Flextrack, and so don't have any real set radius.

It was a bit difficult to measure, with hills and tunnels in the way, but if you drew a rectangle 30cm x 45cm the bottom oval would fit in it, touching all the sides, and on the top, if you drew a rectangle 19cm x 34cm, the track would fit in that.

Hope that is useful to you.

With kind regards
Kevin.

+
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on November 19, 2017, 05:08:44 PM
Well that would mean that below the rafius is just shy of 6" and upstairs about 4". That's quite small radius... BUT that gives me hooes for some layouts I am investigating into  :D

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 19, 2017, 10:29:09 PM
Hi Alexander,

Something I just thought of that you may like to know. On the bottom oval my 3 steam locos run fine. They are a Graham Farish 64xx Pannier Tank, a Dapol Terrier, and a Dapol 5700 Pannier Tank. The 5700 is a bit jerky though, but that is on everything, even a big "Running in" oval I made up. I hope it will settle down.
I also have on loan, a friends Graham Farish J94 which runs round fine.

A whole different story upstairs though. The only loco that runs round is the Dapol Terrier, and for that to work, I had to file the flanges off the centre pair of wheels  :goggleeyes: :o :goggleeyes:

With kind regards
Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on November 19, 2017, 10:47:07 PM
Hi Alexander,

Something I just thought of that you may like to know. On the bottom oval my 3 steam locos run fine. They are a Graham Farish 64xx Pannier Tank, a Dapol Terrier, and a Dapol 5700 Pannier Tank. The 5700 is a bit jerky though, but that is on everything, even a big "Running in" oval I made up. I hope it will settle down.
I also have on loan, a friends Graham Farish J94 which runs round fine.

A whole different story upstairs though. The only loco that runs round is the Dapol Terrier, and for that to work, I had to file the flanges off the centre pair of wheels  :goggleeyes: :o :goggleeyes:

With kind regards
Kevin.

The filed flanges explain a lot  :thumbsup:

Anyway I will try my suitcase layout... There I will have to go dow to 6"...
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MARK1985 on November 20, 2017, 11:44:21 AM
awesome work , loved watching this layout come alive over last couple of weeks , can't wait for next few pictures  :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on November 20, 2017, 12:27:54 PM
Really, really nice.
I love this little layout - great fun.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 20, 2017, 12:42:14 PM
Cheers Mark, and Martin

Will be a little slower now, as the backlog of pics is now used up  ;)

Everything now is happening in real time, so I can use the advice so freely given here. :thumbsup:

This weekend I have textured the roads, finished painting the rock formations, and ballasted the upper track, so am quite pleased with myself.

Today the backscene arrived, so will be working on that this afternoon, and hope to get some pics up tonight.

Thanks so much for your interest, even I can't believe how it has all come together. and I'm really enjoying the fun and games of getting it all to fit in such a small space.

 :thankyousign: :NGaugersRule:

With kind regards
Kevin.

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 21, 2017, 02:03:39 AM
 :hellosign:

Hope you all had a good weekend. Today my backscenes from Gaugemaster arrived, and I was so pleased with them. They seem to fit my little scene really well, so I have been concentrating on one small area to see how 3D blends in with 2D, and looking at some layouts here for ideas and inspiration (Hi Mark  :) )

I finished painting the rocks over the weekend, using a technique learnt from Mell, a wargamer on Youtube, and today I added detail to see how it fits in with the backscene. The most difficult bit was cutting out the centre of the triangle on the roadsign. I spoilt a few getting it done.

Hope you like the pic, and a quick question.... does anyone put drivers in their cars ?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-211117015949-583851341.jpeg)

With all kind regards,
Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on November 21, 2017, 08:14:27 AM
Brilliant detailing.
Can I ask, how did you make the fence alongside the road please?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 21, 2017, 01:00:47 PM
Hi All,

Guess what arrived in the post for me today  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-211117124702-584011526.jpeg)

P.S. Hi Martin....The crash barriers were these ......

http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=GM396&style=main&strType=&Mcode=Gaugemaster+GM396 (http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=GM396&style=main&strType=&Mcode=Gaugemaster+GM396)

From Gaugemaster. However I did not like the molded posts on them in my rural setting, so I cut them off and used laser cut wooden posts from another kit I had. (Not sure what that kit was though)

All best wishes,
Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on November 21, 2017, 05:55:48 PM
Lovely work Kevin. The rocks look particularly good.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 21, 2017, 07:05:30 PM
Cheers John,

This is the Video Tutorial  from Mell, the Terrain Tutor, showing how they are painted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FshOmdHwn8&index=19&list=PLohbeH3fTP1sy244bli51FN-QtNURIQzs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FshOmdHwn8&index=19&list=PLohbeH3fTP1sy244bli51FN-QtNURIQzs)

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on November 21, 2017, 08:18:27 PM
Thanks for the link. I think I've seen a couple of his vids before. The yellow tint was an especially useful tip. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 22, 2017, 10:25:51 PM
Hi All,

Today has been an up and down day. The last couple of days have been off the layout, experimenting with my new static grass applicator. I'm not confident enough yet to use it for real, so I've been using any bits of ply or hardboard lying around, and if anyone has any tips I would be grateful  :)

Back to the layout today, and I completely messed up some dry stone walling and scatter round the windmill area, so had to scrape it all off, dig out the wall, and resurface the area, so not a happy bunny  >:(

Then it all went nice, as I've been landscaping the rocks and bridge area, tidying up round the track, and making trees. Really relaxing and enjoyable  :D

I made a couple of trees a while ago, to put on the layout to see how they fit in.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-221117214925-584292123.jpeg)

Today though, I've been making the "Special Duty" ones, specifically made to measure to hide any slightly dodgy areas, eg where a road just hits the backscene, and such like.

Here is where they will go.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-221117214928-584441356.jpeg)

I can't show you them in position though, as they are hanging up to dry !

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-221117215028-584451167.jpeg)

One tree I don't like though is this nasty little weeping willow

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-151117000857-581381388.jpeg)

Has anyone had a go at making one ?  I may try, or get one from https://www.themodeltreeshop.co.uk/ (https://www.themodeltreeshop.co.uk/) where I get the foliage from. It seems cheating though, as I made the others  :hmmm:

All best wishes to you,
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on November 23, 2017, 07:29:18 AM
Thanks for the update.

I think the willow is the hardest of trees to get looking right and several of my own attempts have landed in the bin!

I do need one or two to finish off a scenic area so I'm still searching for anything ready-made that appeals.

Nothing found so far and that includes the model tree shop offering from where I have bought various others that are very good.

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on November 23, 2017, 05:54:34 PM
I think that "willow" looks good where it is and I wouldn't change it. Forget the weeping, just a willow. :)
The layout is looking great. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on November 23, 2017, 06:08:15 PM
Iíve just been given three cheap weeping willows (from China) by a friend (many thanks Steve). Iím currently having a go at ďsprucing one upĒ to make it more realistic. If it works, Iíll do the other two and post a picture tomorrow.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on November 30, 2017, 09:44:47 PM
Hi All,

Sorry not to have updated for a bit, but everything I seem to be doing now ends up a disaster ...... and doesn't static grass end up absolutely everywhere !!

I have been working on scenery at the moment, from the back first. The rocky outcrop I am pleased with.  I next made a nice little road behind the windmill, then put in some utter rubbish dry stone walling, which had to be dug out, and the area patched up to start again.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-301117202746-58751722.jpeg)

I should clarify, there is nothing wrong with the product, from Osborns, the detail and scale is great, and being made from flexible foam, follows any contour. The problem was I was rubbish at installing and painting it  :dunce:

So I started again with some resin walling from Peedie Models. I have had quite a lot of items from them, and the detail is fantastic on their stuff. You will see more of their products appearing as we go along.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-301117202825-587571458.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-301117202848-58758809.jpeg)

Anyway, that was installed fine, without any hitches, and not spoiling the road. That was when I noticed something was seriously wrong with the Windmill  :o

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-301117204556-58765277.jpeg)

I have no idea what happened. It looks as if it has been near something too hot. I am not sure what to do about that. It should be  easy to fix with some plastic strip, but as you see, there is no room for the turning mechanism anyway, so I may just take it off ..... not sure yet

So while I decide, (still not sure) I made this pig house from some bits and pieces. The straw is short bits cut from "hairy string"

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-301117202933-58759135.jpeg)

I wanted an apple tree nearby, so I rolled some tiny balls of DAS

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-301117202951-58760811.jpeg)

Painted them

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-301117203035-587611119.jpeg)

And there we go .... an apple tree (with Ginormous apples  :goggleeyes: I may pick them and try to make smaller ones )

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-301117203200-58762304.jpeg)

I also messed up my backscene :( The idea was to have a "Big Sky" and cut out hills etc from a Gaugemaster backscene and glue them where needed, however, although it looks quite OK in the pics, believe me, it really looks bad in real life.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-301117203234-587631561.jpeg)

I then re ordered new backscenes, and the glue, and tried again, with no cutting to shape, and it seemed to go on well, then some glue got on the front while smoothing out the bubbles, so I wiped it off with a damp sponge, and like it said on the instructions, it came off .... trouble is so did the trees, fields, and sky  >:(

So for these pics this is what I did

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-301117203319-58764712.jpeg)

Anyway, a new backscene ordered, and that is the state of play at the moment.

Hope you are all well,

With all best wishes
Kevin.













Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on December 01, 2017, 06:40:12 AM
Thanks for the comprehensive update.  We've all had days (and sometimes weeks) like that.  You just have to soldier on and eventually you'll come out of the other end of the tunnel (honest!).
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on December 01, 2017, 07:50:06 AM
As Captain Mainwaring would say:

Splendid progress report, Wilson!

Carry on!

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on December 01, 2017, 07:55:16 AM
Stone walling looks ace now Kevin.

If it all went perfectly first time the forum would be much less interesting and we would all have hundreds of completed fully operational layouts.  :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 01, 2017, 08:39:18 AM
Looking good.
Hope you can repair the windmill satisfactorily.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 01, 2017, 11:44:27 AM
Hi Guys,

Thanks for your replies, I hope I didn't sound too despondent Laurence  :) :) :)

Today I should get my new backscenes (I ordered 2.....just in case ! ) but will take a step away from that, and build a couple of little kits I have, and make a few more trees, which I find very relaxing.

You are right Keith, the mistakes and fowl (big chicken ? ) ups here are what makes it interesting, and wouldn't life be boring if everything went smoothly all the time  :thumbsup:

With all best wishes
Kevin.

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 01, 2017, 06:12:32 PM
 :hellosign:

Hi All,

Yay I managed to fix the Windmill Martin  :claphappy:

I took the struts off, trouble was there were big holes where the horizontal bits went in the top, so I had to improvise a bit to replace the set up, as I didn't think I could fill the holes to blend in with the rest of the roof.

I hope there are no real windmill owners looking in  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-011217174237-58797281.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-011217174155-587962263.jpeg)

While I was attacking that area, I made a "Bend" sign for the curve..... flippin' 'eck they are so fiddly to make. It fits in nicely though but took ages to do.

Also I slightly altered the pig area. I eased up the rear dry stone wall to be more visible, and made some more little apples. You can see here how small they are compared to the ones I made previously.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-011217174154-58795331.jpeg)

And here is the slightly altered area .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-011217174145-587851914.jpeg)

The new backscenes arrived today, but they are for the weekend. Also the pub sign. and a farm cart kit will be made over the weekend, 'cos tonight the cider is calling me to go out and play.

 :beers: :beers: :beers:

Have a great weekend everyone.

Kind regards
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on December 01, 2017, 06:18:10 PM
Nice work Kevin. It's looking fab.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 01, 2017, 06:24:06 PM
Looking lovely.
I think those smaller apples look much better.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 01, 2017, 06:29:54 PM
Cheers John,

Do appreciate your comments..... Have a great weekend  :thumbsup:

And Martin, thank you. If your wagons were coming to pick up my previous apples, they would need their axels strengthened  :D

Actually I may put a few more on. Looks a bit sparse on the photo.

With all best wishes,

Kevin. :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on December 01, 2017, 07:20:36 PM
Hi Kevin,

Glad you got some of the problems sorted. All looking lovely.

Enjoy your evening on the apple juice but remember they grow on the underside of the branches  ;).

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 01, 2017, 08:44:17 PM
Thanks Weave,

Have a good weekend, from one cider drinker to another

 :beers:  :help:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 02, 2017, 08:52:42 PM
Hi All,

Today has been a pottering about sort of day  :)

A bit of tidying up, and doing some of the little things.

I added a few more apples to the tree, some clumped together as that's how they grow, rather than singly, in a polka dot kind of way.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-021217203506-58842485.jpeg)

Then I made these two Ancorton carts (the kit comes with 2) really nice to put together. Trouble is to my mind they seem a bit big for the tiny little barn. I may try and put together a bigger barn.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-021217203608-588442111.jpeg)

Then as the next area to do is the pub, I made this sign from a Peedie brass etching.
Not sure where to put it yet, but ideally it should be seen from the road.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-021217203505-588422077.jpeg)

So that's been it for today. Tomorrow I will sort the backscene out, which has been giving me all sorts of headaches. How you guys do yours millions of feet long amazes me  :D

Hope you are all well,

Kind regards
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 03, 2017, 08:45:44 PM
Yes, those carts look large compared to the barn but they do indeed look very good.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 04, 2017, 02:06:45 PM
Cheers Martin,

Hope you had a good weekend.

The carts were fun to put together. I googled "Farm Carts" for images to help me paint them, and they all seemed either red / blue, or left natural wood.

I made one of each  :)

The scale if spot on, and a horse fits between the shafts fine, it's just my barn is cut down in size, so I think I will save them for when I get a grown up layout   :D

All best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 07, 2017, 03:59:08 PM
Hi all,

I had a few days away from the railway as there have been a couple of birthdays, and a retirement do to go to, and in all honesty I think I would have done more damage than good if I had approached my layout  :beers:

Anyway, last weekend I finally got the backscene fitted.  :claphappy:

The problem I had was with the springiness of the plastic I was fixing it on. There were too many fixed pieces to fix the scene in place in situ ( tried it, got bubbles, glue everywhere & broke some trees  :( )

Then took the back off, and fitted it, then because the sides had sprung out, when not on the board, when I refitted it, bending the sides in brought about massive wrinkling.  :(

Another fresh start, this time with a cunning plan in place  :idea:

I made a mock up of the layout baseboard, fixed the back board on that, and applied the backscene trouble free !

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-071217150641-58986481.jpeg)

Then to stop the joins pulling apart when the sides spring out when I take it off,I taped the sides in position

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-071217150705-589952473.jpeg)

And then carefully taking the backboard off the mock up, and putting it back on the layout .......Success  :claphappy:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-071217150911-589962173.jpeg)

So pleased I persevered, and curved the back corners.

Then in went the little side panel. The socket is for the battery charger to power up the lead acid battery, and the rocker on/off switch switches the set up on and off  :doh:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-071217150933-589972142.jpeg)

Then tidying up and permanently fixing the electrics so now all is totally self contained

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-071217151130-58998847.jpeg)

(The green/yellow wires are the windmill leads, and the coiled wires on the left are an outside lamp for the entrance gate/barn)

Well, that's what I did last Sunday, time to put the kettle on and will next show what I was up to yesterday and this morning

With kind regards
Kevin

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 07, 2017, 04:25:36 PM
Looks good Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on December 07, 2017, 04:57:34 PM
A cunning plan, indeed, Kevin.

It's a fabulous and innovative layout.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 07, 2017, 05:14:50 PM
Thanks Martin.

I do appreciate your comments and help, as I love the detail on your layouts, which inspires me to do the best I can on my little, but busy, layout. :thumbsup:

Yesterday and today have been all about detailing. Now the backscene is fixed, I have been working round it blending it into the 3D bits.

I also tried to model a dirt track entering the field. Not sure if I pulled it off or not though.

I then "planted" the barn and a light for the entrance gate. I will put a few bits of accumulated junk in the barn, and also some stuff round the base of the mill.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-071217151554-59002238.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-071217151154-589998.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-071217151608-590032449.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-071217151357-590011116.jpeg)

I do wish the backscene could have been a bit higher though, but the lid would not close on the case if it was

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-071217151341-590001324.jpeg)

As a concession to Christmas, Rudolph and family make an appearance  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-071217151810-590041746.jpeg)

And I did some work behind the bridge. I have to make some more trees to disguise the fact that the road runs into nothing, and I am planning a little cameo scene under the bridge as soon as a parcel arrives from "Rails"  ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-071217151822-590051283.jpeg)

Will keep you posted :thumbsup:

With all best wishes
Kevin.




Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 07, 2017, 05:33:50 PM
Wow. The detail is terrific.
I love the horse and cart and the barn.
One amazing detail is the bit of rope holding the gate shut.
And the track going into the field works beautifully.
Brilliant stuff.
Looking forward to the cameo scene by the bridge.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on December 07, 2017, 05:40:11 PM
Really super modeling :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on December 07, 2017, 06:02:27 PM
I have to agree with the above comments - some excellent, realistic modelling.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on December 07, 2017, 08:31:23 PM
Smashing work Kevin. The detail work is brilliant. All very natural looking. It just looks right.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 07, 2017, 08:49:06 PM
Thanks Guys,

I am really enjoying the detailing..... It certainly keeps me out of mischief when it's too cold to go outside and play  :D

All best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on December 07, 2017, 09:21:58 PM
You have a superb eye for detail and what you have achieved is very impressive :admiration:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 07, 2017, 10:25:48 PM
Cheers Mick,

I still can't believe how it all fits in  :D  :D

I am really enjoying my little railway, and many thanks to all here for the inspiration, and knowledge bank to make it work.

 :beers:

With kind regards
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on December 07, 2017, 10:45:37 PM
Simply superb - and an inspiration for me to achieve that level of excellently modelled detail and 'sense of place' that you have managed to put into such a small footprint.

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 08, 2017, 04:50:52 PM
Thanks Daffy,

Today has mostly been tidying up, but I did some fiddling to the pub area.

I can't fix the pub in place, as I will be lighting it, so need to put an interior in first, but put an outside light in, and the flower beds defining the patio area.

Still not sure where to put the sign yet, but one nice thing turned up. The pub is called the Swan, as that was the  most appropriate in the sheet of pub signs I got, and I found an angry swan ( but it may be a goose  :hmmm: ) in my box of animals

Anyway, here are a few pics.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-081217162845-590461812.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-081217162906-59063521.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-081217163055-590641946.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-081217163059-590651059.jpeg)

With kind regards
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on December 08, 2017, 04:57:15 PM
Smashing!
I was just thinking "The food must be good in The Swan. Look at the size of that seagull!"
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 08, 2017, 05:15:30 PM
This just keeps getting better.
As my mother used to say ďBe careful with that Swan....they can break your arm you know!Ē
Oh and thatís a rather buxom young lass in the green skirt. The chap seems to be admiring her with that sideways glance.
Great stuff.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 10, 2017, 11:39:53 PM
Hi Guys, and thank you for your comments.

You noticed the lady's charms Martin, as we used to say before political correctness got in the way, "If they were on her back she would be fun to dance with  :D "

Not much to report, as have been doing Christmas type stuff, but yesterday a parcel from "Rails" arrived with some woodland scenic figures I wanted to make a little cameo scene..... you know by now I like the detailing  :claphappy:

First I made a camp fire.... here's how

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39674.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39674.0)

Then I fixed it in place with the figures. The two guys toasting sausages are about to be joined by another traveller from quite literally the other side of the tracks  :)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-101217215026-591391714.jpeg)

The scene is fairly hidden behind the rock outcrop, as you can see here, but is a nice little surprise scenario when discovered.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-101217214937-591381656.jpeg)

Hope you like it, I had a lot of fun making it... not least with the chocks  :D :D

All the best,
Kevin

 :beers:

PS. Many thanks to Texhorse for the inspiration for this little scene
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on December 11, 2017, 12:04:28 AM
Great work. Love the pub and fire.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on December 11, 2017, 06:31:00 AM
Nice detailing on the underside of the bridge!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on December 11, 2017, 07:12:33 AM
Well spotted!  :thumbsup:

Great stuff.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris Morris on December 11, 2017, 07:52:55 AM
Great work. This is a really interesting little layout with great modelling. N gauge provides a number of possibilities not provided by larger scales. It is great to be able to run main line trains in a reasonable space which is is one advantage. The other big advantage is that quite worthwhile layouts can be built in a very small space indeed. This is a good example of the latter.

I think it would be good if more exhibitions had a ďlook what can be achieved in a very small space in N gaugeĒ section. This might inspire others to get started.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 11, 2017, 08:18:13 AM
I love the detailing. I do hope that the travellers will be safe if a train comes along!  Really , really lovely work.
Youíve inspired me to have a go at a micro model. Saw one in a guitar case at Hayle show last week which gave me an idea.
After Christmas I fully intend to get hold of a second hand case.
Watch this space.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on December 11, 2017, 10:02:54 AM
A guitar case?

What have you in mind? Terminus in the neck, with an out and back loop at the other end?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 11, 2017, 10:11:34 AM
A guitar case?
What have you in mind? Terminus in the neck, with an out and back loop at the other end?  :hmmm:

I like your idea but Iím thinking one of these square jobbies:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-111217101126.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59146)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on December 11, 2017, 01:44:34 PM
Great work. This is a really interesting little layout with great modelling. N gauge provides a number of possibilities not provided by larger scales. It is great to be able to run main line trains in a reasonable space which is is one advantage. The other big advantage is that quite worthwhile layouts can be built in a very small space indeed. This is a good example of the latter.

I think it would be good if more exhibitions had a ďlook what can be achieved in a very small space in N gaugeĒ section. This might inspire others to get started.

 :thankyousign:  I agree completely with all the above.  So often one detects an attitude that 'N' is what you have if you don't have room for H0/00.  A kind of second best, perhaps.  But not to me; I find 'N' to be full of possibilities.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 11, 2017, 09:21:46 PM
Hi Guys,

 :thankyousign:

Totally agree Chris and John. There is nothing second best about N Gauge. There are so many exciting things to discover, as I m finding out, and loving every minute of it.

I can't wait till the next stage when I build a bigger layout.  :)

I'm sure the travellers will be safe Martin, although there were a few accidents while seeing how close to the track they could go. Will look forward to your micro build. While looking for ideas I did see this layout.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-111217211231-591662350.jpeg)

The bridge area is what I am working on today Laurence, mainly trees to disguise the fact that the road just abruptly runs into the backscene. The plan then is to detail the right hand edge, before working on the centre lake area, then the embankments.

Wishing you all the very best,
Kevin

 :NGaugersRule:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 12, 2017, 05:28:16 PM
Hi Everyone,

A quick update on how things are going .....

I finished the barn / windmill / pigsty area so am leaving that side alone as I am pretty happy with it  :)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-121217170402-592022112.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-121217170439-592091457.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-121217170605-59210514.jpeg)

Then it was over to the other side. I added some trees round the bridge, and started on the rocks along the backscene, adding a bit of vegetation, and a bit of fly-tipping as  well.

Also, as all I seem to post is scenic stuff, I bet some of you are thinking "This Kevin bloke hasn't got any trains ! " ... I have ....honest  :D :D :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-121217170711-5921120.jpeg)

Then on to the front corner of the "top shelf" The engine crew are going to get very bored going round and round in tiny circles, so I thought I had better give them something nice to see  ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-121217170915-5921278.jpeg)

Here is the whole of that side .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-121217171011-592132174.jpeg)

And with a train....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-121217171052-592141623.jpeg)

With kind regards
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 12, 2017, 06:31:32 PM
Lovely.
Such wonderful attention to detail.
Glady youíve included a VW. Another of my passions. Just a shame its not orange and white like ours.
Getting back to the railway-good to see a train on there.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on December 12, 2017, 08:11:17 PM
Looking good Kevin. But why isn't Windy Miller wearing his hat, smock and kerchief? Or is that his son in the dungarees?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 12, 2017, 10:47:50 PM
Hi Guys,

Just got back from a pre-Christmas dinner, and suitably stuffed  :D

Had to include a VW Camper Martin, they are such an iconic vehicle, and I have a friend down here who actually has an orange / white one.

And John, I have been trying to find an N Gauge Windy Miller..... no luck so may have to adapt a figure with DAS to make him.

Watch this space !!!!!

All best Wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on December 12, 2017, 10:57:32 PM
Lovely work. Thumbs up from Oz.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on December 12, 2017, 11:52:56 PM
I have been trying to find an N Gauge Windy Miller..... no luck so may have to adapt a figure with DAS to make him.
You've just gotta do that now.  :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 13, 2017, 08:05:00 AM
Hi Guys,

Just got back from a pre-Christmas dinner, and suitably stuffed  :D

Had to include a VW Camper Martin, they are such an iconic vehicle, and I have a friend down here who actually has an orange / white one.

And John, I have been trying to find an N Gauge Windy Miller..... no luck so may have to adapt a figure with DAS to make him.

Watch this space !!!!!

All best Wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Such lovely vehicles- hereís ours
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/230-131217080425.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59237)
Heís called Bertie. Great fun.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on December 13, 2017, 07:17:41 PM
That looks to be in fantastic condition. You obviously take great care of it and it shows.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 13, 2017, 07:50:59 PM
That looks to be in fantastic condition. You obviously take great care of it and it shows.  :thumbsup:
Yes, we love Bertie. Heís great fun. Swallows up the cash though!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 14, 2017, 02:19:04 PM
Hi All,

Love your VW Bertie, Martin. As john says you can certainly tell he has been loved and cared for. He is in a lot better condition than my friends van. :)

Have been doing a bit of wiring today.

Yesterday I made an interior for the pub, as it will be lit, and the windows are at the front, and today I put lights in it. 3 may seem overkill, and they were bright, but a bit of acrylic paint on them gives them a nice warm glow.

I also had problems with the lamp post on the patio. It runs on 12v, but I am running everything (except the windmill motor) off a 9v PP3. I left the lamp on for no longer than about 10 mins, and the whole top section melted  :o

Turns out it is a filament bulb not a LED, but even so it should not have got that hot.  >:(

Luckily I was able to take the top off without damaging anything else, thread through one of the mini LEDs I bought for the fire, and put a new top on.  :)

Here is the pub interior. Last night I went to our  local Wetherspoons for "research  :beers: " and took one of their magazines to find a picture of a bar interior I could cut out and use.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-141217135714-592681559.jpeg)

The pencil lines on the floor at the front are where the windows are.

When it gets dark I will fit it, and be able to see where any light leaks through and block it, and will put up some pics of it all in situ.

With kind regards
Kevin

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 14, 2017, 03:44:09 PM
Looks a amazing.
I personally donít bother with buildng interiors but admire those who do.
Your attention to detail is. Inspiring indeed.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on December 14, 2017, 09:08:38 PM
Good work. If such a small layout can hold so much interest, I can only imagine what you can do with a larger layout.  :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 19, 2017, 06:16:32 PM
 :hellosign:

Hope everyone is well, and not too stressed with the run up to Christmas !

Not a lot to report, as like a lot of you, the work room will go back to being a bedroom for Christmas guests, so mostly I have been tidying up  :(

Anyway, the pub was finished, interior fitted in and sealed for light leakage, and fixed in place. Like you say Martin, I would not have made an interior, but as it is lit, and only 6" away from the layout front, I really had to.

With a little layout like this everything is really up close and in your face, so I am pretty much forced into the detail, which I am really enjoying :D :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-191217174311-594702290.jpeg)

I tried to create the feeling of a nice comfortable pub on a Summers day, that I would be happy in. :pint:

Unfortunately while tidying up, one of the tables got squished. Luckily the figures were ok, and I had another table I could make up as they come in sets of 4

Here it is lit up ..... looks very cosy  :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-191217174342-594841010.jpeg)

I also worked on the boathouse area .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-191217174539-594861754.jpeg)

This is how it integrates into the pub area ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-191217174523-594851221.jpeg)

Hope you like the pics, sorry there are no trains, but I took some this afternoon with a train (I only have one that will go round this top oval  :'( ) and will look through them and post them up later this evening  :thumbsup:

With all best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 19, 2017, 06:25:08 PM
This just keeps on getting better and better.
Looking really good.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: RailGooner on December 19, 2017, 06:46:49 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Makes me feel like popping down my local for a pint! :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 19, 2017, 07:00:04 PM
Cheers Martin  :thumbsup:

As a little add on, while looking through my pics with the loco on, (which I will post later .... promise  :D ) I came across this which gave me a little giggle.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-191217185306-59487209.jpeg)

I wanted a sign at the back as a warning about falling rocks.... keep away from cliff kind of thing , but the only sign I could find was the "Engines must not pass this point " sign. Strictly speaking it is actually true and valid though ::) :D ::)

Only readable on close up photo, but I wonder if anyone will notice  :no:

Kind regards
Kevin

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on December 19, 2017, 07:35:03 PM
I have to echo Martin's comment. This layout just keeps getting better and better.  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on December 19, 2017, 08:21:25 PM
Your modelling and detailing is a wonder, Kevin :goggleeyes:
If I have a small reservation it's the lamp post outside the pub as it looks extremely 'thick' compared to everything else.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 19, 2017, 09:00:36 PM
Hi Mick,

I do see what you mean, unfortunately that was the thinnest lamp post I could find. the thing with a lot of lighting accessories is that they are HUGE. I have some gas lamp types that are N gauge in height, but the fitting on top scales to 3ft x 6ft  :o

I measured the thickness as best I could, and it is just over 1mm, but not quite 1.5mm, so 7 or 8 inches in real life

Not too bad.  Looks OK on the model, but maybe bigger on the photo  :hmmm:

All best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 19, 2017, 09:59:04 PM
 :hellosign:

Hello again !!!!

As promised here are the pics with my Dapol Terrier in them.

Hope you don't get bored with this loco, but it is the only one (out of the two I have  :-[ ) that will go round that oval ..... and the crew are getting very giddy  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-191217214514-59511897.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-191217214406-595101015.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-191217214328-59509328.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-191217214213-595081588.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-191217214133-595071632.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-191217214030-59506634.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-191217213951-59505733.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-191217213836-59504555.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-191217213758-59503371.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-191217213709-59488599.jpeg)

With kind regards
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on December 19, 2017, 10:13:47 PM
Excuse me, but there are 10 pictures and one of them does not show the Terrier!  :o. Why do we have to see the one of the two young ladies with the the VW   :goggleeyes: (And then, if I remember correctly, it's a repeat  ???). P.S. Do you have a zoom on the camera  ;D.

Addit: Just looked at the picture with the two young ladies again, purely for checking my facts you understand and I have to apologise, the Terrier is there, but it is so out of focus - at least, I think it is out of focus. Maybe I am concentrating too much on the other aspects of the picture  ???  :-[
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 19, 2017, 10:31:46 PM
Hi Dannyboy  :)

I was waiting for someone to mention that  :D :D

I added Bubbles and buckets to the VW ..... and no, they are not the names of the ladies  ;D

As you spotted though, the Terrier is right at the back, and very blurred !!

Hope you are well, and not too bored at work

With all best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on December 19, 2017, 10:38:10 PM
Phoenix
It is topics like yours that stop me getting bored. A great little layout  :thumbsup:. Best wishes to you too.  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on December 19, 2017, 11:36:35 PM
Great set of pictures of a charming little layout. Just goes to show that you don't need a lot of space to produce something special.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on December 20, 2017, 12:14:16 AM
P.S. Do you have a zoom on the camera  ;D.
I snuck round to Windmill Hill earlier with my telephoto when Kevin wasnt looking and I think this is what you wanted a close-up of ?  :D
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/3699-201217000802.jpeg)

and the crew are getting very giddy  :D

 :laughabovepost:
Thanks for the pics/update Kevin, very nicely done.  :claphappy:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on December 20, 2017, 12:59:59 AM
P.S. Do you have a zoom on the camera  ;D.
I snuck round to Windmill Hill earlier with my telephoto when Kevin wasnt looking and I think this is what you wanted a close-up of ?  :D
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/3699-201217000802.jpeg)




Err.....yeah.....thanks.  :P
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on December 20, 2017, 01:49:06 AM
 :laughabovepost:

Oh the nostalgia ! ;
the tales I could tell from the '60s about aussie friends who would leave their VW campers at the London embassy for chums to pick up and continue to go camping round (the) eu.,
and how I had to give one a miss because I had to answer an emergency call from on high at work to go, forthwith, 3 weeks hence,  to Brazil , hey-ho
and previously one of those 105E Anglias, driven by he who was to become father-in-law, drove too fast round a bend in a precipitous French Pyrenee and converted my bino astro 25x60 into a mono :(

I digress, sorry Kevin, but your wee thingie does evoke lots from the age of the dinosaurs :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 20, 2017, 01:52:49 AM
Hi Malcolm,

Where have the pretty ladies gone  :confused1:  :confused1:

 :searchingsign:

Bet they've snuck off to the pub for a couple of swift ciders with the train crew !!

 :beers:  :pint:  :pint:  :beers:

All best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on December 20, 2017, 02:01:00 AM
Bet they've snuck off to the pub for a couple of swift ciders with the train crew !!
:beers:  :pint:  :pint:  :beers:
He hee
nope
I have enticed them away with the amazing cornering abilities of my Austin 1100

 :laugh: :smiley-laughing: :D
 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on December 20, 2017, 02:07:37 AM
Now if you had said 'Hillman Avenger', I would have known you were telling porkies.  ;D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on December 20, 2017, 02:19:55 AM
:)   :laughabovepost:

If I said that my first car was a Hillman Minx 1947 (side valve) would you believe me :)
(( second hand,  !! )

But returning to topic : that is incredible detail you have Kevin, the detail  the garb of the young ladies is amazing !
Not to mention the crash barriers,,, er,,,   on the roads,,,,  which I think post date my 60s era ?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 22, 2017, 01:57:03 AM
Thank you Malcolm, Martin, Weave, John, Bealman, Dannyboy et all, you have summed up exactly what I was trying to create. A non specific little piece of nostalga.

There are little nods to my youth there, (which I will show you when it gets more complete)

In this little space, I have tried to build a scene that I would quite happily merge into, sit on the grass and enjoy a cider or twelve and be very happy to be there with some of my like minded friends I have met here on this forum.

Thank you all for following what I am doing, and I wish all of you a very awesome Christmas

With luv & hugs from Dorset
Kevin

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on December 22, 2017, 07:57:26 AM
Hi Kevin,

Thank YOU for your great little project.

I have often found myself going back to look at pics of your pub and windmill on cold, dreary nights with thoughts of next Summer.

A Happy Christmas to you and may the agricultural champagne keep a flowin'!

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 22, 2017, 02:30:01 PM
I suggest an NGF meet up at your little pub. I rather fancy a few ciders outside in the sunshine over a yarn or two.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 22, 2017, 10:08:04 PM
 :hellosign:

Down here in Dorset , although we quite rightly still treat electricity with suspicion, we no longer view it as witchcraft, or the work of the Devil, and apart from a few people on Portland, we are slowly learning to accept it as part of our everyday lives  :D :D :D :D :D

With this in mind, today I have mostly been doing wiring !

This link shows how I built the underside of my baseboard (The photos are captioned)

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=3200;u=5755 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=3200;u=5755)

Today I tidied up the wiring for the upper level lighting, and labelled the leads Then I built a battery enclosure. Three 9v PP3 batteries will power the lights, and at the bottom, two 1.5v batteries will power the 3v windmill motor. The motor leads are the yellow and green ones.

From the batteries, the white and grey leads will power the upper level lights, the orange and brown leads will power the lower street and yard lights, and the pink and purple leads will power the station and signal box lights.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-221217172624-595981712.jpeg)

I then fitted the board bottom cover, and cut out an access panel for the battery enclosure.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-221217172653-59617439.jpeg)

The batteries in their holders fit nice and snug.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-221217012521-595972042.jpeg)

Then I made a panel for the switches from the same 2mm plastic, and cut out holes for them on the front edge of the baseboard.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-221217172902-596191271.jpeg)

When a couple of wrongly drilled holes are filled in, and the panel covered in fablon and lettered up it should look nice and smart.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-221217172929-596201691.jpeg)

With all best wishes
Kevin

Many thanks to everyone who has been following my progress, and thank to everyone who has contributed to the huge wealth of information here for making it possible  :thumbsup:

Here's wishing you all an awesome Christmas

 :beers: :beers: :beers: :beers: :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on December 22, 2017, 10:16:09 PM
Excellent work Kevin and Merry Christmas to you.  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on December 23, 2017, 06:33:47 AM
That looks like a nice tidy wiring job.  Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 23, 2017, 08:57:04 AM
Excellent job Kevin.
Merry Christmas to you
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on December 23, 2017, 12:31:07 PM
Seasons greetings to everyone.

Sorry to see that the windmill suffered a loss in the recent winter storms, I hope the miller can recover from this disaster ? How far away did the sails land and was this because he forgot to take in (or reef) the sailcloth. Perhaps he spent too long with his chums in the pub ?
 :D



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 23, 2017, 03:18:03 PM
Hi Malcolm,

Good job you spotted that. A local workforce were more or less sobered up and sent on a retrieval mission.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-231217150753-596211664.jpeg)

The sails were found and back to the pub to celebrate

 :beers:  :claphappy:  :beers:

Have a great Christmas  :D

Kind regards
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on December 23, 2017, 03:34:37 PM
Brill !
 :thumbsup:   :claphappy: 
luv it  :)

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on December 23, 2017, 05:54:51 PM
It doesn't look as if it's put the wind up the pigs! :)
A great little layout that needs a couple of exhibitions. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on December 23, 2017, 07:27:09 PM
It doesn't look as if it's put the wind up the pigs! :)
Pigs can be quite niffy without flatulence.  :-[
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on December 23, 2017, 08:13:03 PM
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-231217150753-596211664.jpeg[/url])

What a great little cameo, certainly puts modern life into perspective :-

Fred : "Now what do we do Bill"
Bill : "No idea mate. Hey Miller, any ideas? Got a skyhook anywhere? "
Miller : "Ummmm,, hang on I'll ask Michel de Nostredame, he is sure to know"
Nostradamus he say : " Wait 300 years, a fella called J. C. Bamford will be along to help out"
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on December 23, 2017, 08:35:09 PM
I wish I had thought of this earlier :

" Hey Miller, has sufficient progress been made to move on to the next stage ? "
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on December 23, 2017, 08:55:46 PM
It doesn't look as if it's put the wind up the pigs! :)
Pigs can be quite niffy without flatulence.  :-[

Even more so with  :uneasy:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 28, 2017, 08:10:06 PM
Hi All,

Hope all was good for you over Christmas, just got to gird our loins now for the New Year celebrations  :laugh3:

Last update this was the state of play re. preparations for lighting the layout ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-221217172624-595981712.jpeg)

So today was spent carrying on with that, and wiring everything on the top layer up. The Green and Yellow wires sorted the windmill motor out, wired from the two AA batteries via the first switch. Easy Peasy !!!!!!

Next all the lights were wired from the grey and white bus wires via the second switch. That should have been been easy peasy, but being a simple soul I did get a bit muddled  :-[  Good job it is all 12v not 240v !!!!!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-281217184254-597642381.jpeg)

I was going to solder it all together, but glad I didn't  :no:  The only soldering was the resistors that some lamps needed, and the switches.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-281217184507-59811481.jpeg)

Here are a couple of pics of the effect the lights give. Really sorry the quality is so bad, I can't seem to get my camera to take decent night shots  :confused1:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-281217184633-598131778.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-281217184617-598121122.jpeg)

The guy in the deck chair, is chillin' out with a nice drop of rum, on a lovely summers night..... kinda wonderin' where all the water in the lake got to. Answers on a postcard please  :D

Incidentally the day after Newport Nobby's comment re the pub patio light I got "Railroom Electronics" newsletter, and so decided to order another lamp which has a thinner post, and I think it does look better. Thanks Mick.....I hope your back is on the mend.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-281217184347-598102046.jpeg)

While making the order with them, I also got some street lights, and this is where I have a question for you guys  :hmmm:

 :helpneededsign:

Do you think I should use them to light the bridge, or road. I really don't know. Here are a couple of pics...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-281217191017-598142258.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-281217191103-598152084.jpeg)

What do you think ?

With all best wishes
Kevin



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 28, 2017, 08:24:25 PM
The lighting is very atmospheric. Looks brilliant and the new lamp post outside of the pub does look better.
As for the road light by the bridge, Iím unsure. Looks wrong, I think, in the close up picture but it does look ok in the more distant photograph.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on December 28, 2017, 08:36:39 PM
Hi Kevin,

I agree with Martin, great lighting and the pub light looks better. I don't like the road light by the bridge anyway (think too big and they don't seem to have road lights where I live and it's semi country) but also I think you don't want too much light as detracts from the cosy pub.

 I know nothing about lighting but like the shot of the car going over the bridge. Is it possible to blacken the inside and do headlights? I dunno. Just an idea.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on December 28, 2017, 08:46:48 PM
I agree with the above two comments Kevin, everything is looking good. Except - (and this is in no way a criticism), I could not at first work out why the lamp on the bridge looked wrong, then it hit me,  :ouch:. I think what is making it look not quite right is the house behind the lamp, it makes the lamp look out of proportion. ( :sorrysign:). As for not having street lights, (Weave), what are those  ???. Okay, we do have street lights, but I have a few miles to drive to see them!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 28, 2017, 08:57:58 PM
Thanks Guys

Really not sure what to do..... as you say, they just look too conspicuous, and there are so many places without lights anyway  :worried:

Perhaps have just one the other side of the bridge hidden in the trees a bit, like so many are in the wilds  :hmmm:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-281217204656-598162440.jpeg)

I do like the idea of headlights in a car though.... has anyone tried this in N gauge ??

Once again really appreciate your help  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:


Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on December 28, 2017, 08:59:22 PM
Street lighting depends on the era.  In England in the 1950s, urban areas had sporadic gas lamps (except on main roads, where sodium lamps were the most common) and rural area had little or no lighting.  By the 1960s, most suburban roads had electric lamps and street lighting was becoming more common in rural areas.  However, it was not until the 1980s that street lighting became ubiquitous.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on December 28, 2017, 09:08:37 PM
Hi Kevin,

I'm sure the car thing has been done. Not sure if exactly the right thing but found this (3rd one down)...

http://www.layouts4u.net/nlighting.html (http://www.layouts4u.net/nlighting.html)

Hope helps. Would love to see it (full beam of course, especially on a hilly bend over a dangerous bridge approaching a pub  ;))

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on December 28, 2017, 09:08:59 PM


I do like the idea of headlights in a car though.... has anyone tried this in N gauge ??



I bought some a good few months ago. I think it was 6 for about a tenner - from China or somewhere like that of course. Probably not the right era for you but you never know. I will see if I can find the link.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on December 28, 2017, 09:12:24 PM
Found some, (and I got it the wrong way round - 10 for £6.99p!). I did post a picture sometime ago - they do look quite effective in the dark.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-pcs-Model-Lighted-Cars-N-gauge-1-160-with-12V-LEDs-lights-motion-your-layouts/150759163767?epid=1731342816&hash=item2319f24777:m:m7BqYiY5DznLED56ea-tO4g (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-pcs-Model-Lighted-Cars-N-gauge-1-160-with-12V-LEDs-lights-motion-your-layouts/150759163767?epid=1731342816&hash=item2319f24777:m:m7BqYiY5DznLED56ea-tO4g)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 28, 2017, 09:25:16 PM
Cheers,

Wow,

They are so cheap, it would be rude not to buy them  :) :) :)

My era is pretty much in the non specific past, but I don't see why the gubbins could not be put in an older car.

 :NGaugersRule:

Cheers Guys

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on December 28, 2017, 10:10:56 PM
In England in the 1950s, urban areas had sporadic gas lamps
I remember those :) which enabled one to see stars and the milky way from urban areas, and Comet Arend-Roland was spectacular in 1957 from our back garden.

Dont remember sodiums in the NW of England in that era tho', we had weak and feeble purple-ish things on the main road.  Mercury ?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on December 28, 2017, 10:41:24 PM
and following on from @dannyboy (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) 's nice find one comes to
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-rooms-painted-light-burning-car-model-scale-cable-w-N-1-150-A7K8-Z6T9-/322930605265?_trksid=p2349526.m2548.l4275 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-rooms-painted-light-burning-car-model-scale-cable-w-N-1-150-A7K8-Z6T9-/322930605265?_trksid=p2349526.m2548.l4275)
where "10 rooms painted light burning car model" can be had for £4.46 ! very tempting :) a bit of chinglish problem with rooms ? but I could fancy a burning car cameo from a repurposed tea light !?
(not sure if urban vandals were into burning cars in my 1940 - 1965 chosen steam era though  ;)  )
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 30, 2017, 04:02:04 PM
 :hellosign:

With Christmas guests gone, had a day or two to do lighting wiring, and thanks for your input re lighting the road / bridge. I will leave it, but love the idea of car headlights.

I have ordered a couple of sets of " ten rooms burning painted lights" so will have something to play with in the new year  :)

incidentally Malcolm, one of the guys on You Tube, who has a great channel, although his layout is H0 (Sorry for using bad language  ;) ) has a few videos showing how he made a fab little cameo of a burnt out car, some fly tippers, and a police car arriving with flashing light) Worth checking out Graham Foulson. Lakeside is the name of his layout.

Have got New Year visitors arriving tomorrow.... the great thing about my visitors is they bring food and drink, and do the washing up  :claphappy:

No work on the layout, but now it has its trailing insides sorted, and its bottom fixed, a couple or three pics of how it fits in the case.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-301217150113-59889109.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-301217150115-598891606.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-301217145908-598881868.jpeg)

The controller is held in the case lid by Velcro, and I may well do the same with cases for the two locos and rolling stock.

Re another thread about drones. The case was designed as a flight case for drones, so when you guys "remove" them from the skys, you may well be able to appropriate the now redundant cases  :D :D :D

You can also see why I use rocker rather than toggle switches, as the layout is deliberately a snug fit to stop any rattling about in carrying it, and to absolutely give max baseboard size, as every mm is needed on this very busy little layout  ;)

Hope you all have a fab New Year

Kind regards
Kevin

 :beers:

Quick edit ..... someone's run off with the windmill sails again !!!!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on December 30, 2017, 05:12:04 PM
Thanks, Kevin.
Those pics really do put it into perspective :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 30, 2017, 05:16:59 PM
Cheers Mick,

Hope your back is on the mend, and here's wishing you a very Happy New Year,

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on December 31, 2017, 05:53:08 PM

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-221117214925-584292123.jpeg[/url])



Is that a John Deere Tractor?  :)

Just catching up on your thread again after some time away, superb work, loving the way it is coming together

Cheers,
Andrew
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on December 31, 2017, 08:01:11 PM
My last post was on page 7, jus spent an enjoyable hour or two (in between work) to catch up to the end!  Superb, as many before me have said, wonderful use of space and great eye for detail, love the little cameo's you are working into every square inch.

Are you hand painting the figures or are they already painted?

Look forward to the next updates in the coming year
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 10, 2018, 05:27:02 PM
 :hellosign:

Hi all, hope everyone had a great Christmas, and here's to a fab New Year  :beers:

I do apologise Andrew, for not replying sooner, but have only just come back to my layout after the holiday excesses, and only just seen your posts. :-[

Thank you so much for your kind comments. I am really enjoying the modelling, and try hard to get the detailing right, so do appreciate what you say. Look out for some more little cameo scenes coming up soon  :D :D :D

All the figures are ready painted, although some have had their clothes dulled down as some of the outfits are a bit too brightly coloured.

Not much has been done, but here is an update as to what I am up to .....

I decided that as Laurence said, rural lighting would be very sparse, so will not light the road, but I think a light would be needed for the bridge, so put a dim (gas lit ) lamp unobtrusively in the trees at the back. It also balances the lamp by the barn on the other side of the layout.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-100118162754-60413873.jpeg)

Next was the Pub garden area. I did not like the fact that it had nothing stopping drunks or kids wandering on the rails, so I added a hedge, fence, and a couple of train spotters ..... every layout has to have some , right  :)

They are not the true anorak wearing note pad wielding type though. Their names are Alan and Tina. Alan just likes photographing steam trains while enjoying a sunny day at the pub, and Tina likes waving to the loco crew. After a few vodka and coke's she will wave to anybody  :D  :wave:  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-100118161947-604031521.jpeg)

After looking at the photo, I just thought the hedges looks so wrong from that foliage. It is a great way of doing trees, but looks terrible for the smaller hedges, so I uprooted them, got some woodland scenic clump foliage, and redid the hedge, and like it so much better.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-100118162122-604041292.jpeg)

It is good that the camera shows up every mistake, as it enables you to correct them. The little sign with its back to the camera is a "Beware of the Trains" Sankey sign.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-100118162403-604062334.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-100118162147-604052482.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-100118162838-604142417.jpeg)

Next to do was the embankment that goes down to the yard area.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-100118162407-60407957.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-100118162644-604121714.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-100118162622-604111877.jpeg)

This seems to look OK. The signal box is not fixed yet, and I won't do that for the moment, as the next area to work on is the embankment on the station side.

This may be a bit tricky as it runs down to the access road. I also want to put a greenhouse and allotments for the Windmill at the top and maybe steps up the embankment from the access road to the mill area  :hmmm:

Will keep you updated

 :beers:

With all best wishes
Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 10, 2018, 06:00:31 PM
As ever, it looks brilliant Kevin.
I was going to comment that the signal box neededc something around the base but then I read on further that itís not yet fixed.
I should have realised.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on January 10, 2018, 06:58:01 PM
Cracking detail Kevin and well photographed. The gas lamp for the bridge looks much better placed there.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on January 10, 2018, 07:28:31 PM
Putting the layout size to one side, this has to be one of the best layouts I've seen and is up there with all my favourites. It's just a shame with me being in Lankyshire I won't get to see it 'in the flesh'. The detailing is just superb. and I reckon Tina can wave to me whenever she wants :heart2:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 10, 2018, 07:29:37 PM
Excellent, and I agree with your comments regarding the hedging. Version 2 is much better.  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 11, 2018, 03:30:10 PM
Hi Guys,

Glad all is well, and thank you for all your comments. Cheers Martin, and high praise from Mick..... but what I have done would not have been possible without all the help from this forum

 :thankyousign:  :NGaugersRule:

Cheers John and Keith, My camera is just a point and click one, so my pics are not the best. one problem is being able to physically get it where I want, as there is not much space to manoeuver. The thing with pics though is they do show up where you are going wrong, and also you can show on here what your ideas are, and get help.

That's why the hedge looks better, I had help here for positioning the bridge light, and Mito gave help with the yard area, and whether or not  to have retaining walls on the brick piers for the girder bridge.

Just before I get going with the Station side embankment, here is a quick pic of the yard area. There will be a fence along where the ballast ends, and the green painted area will be grassed, with a few sheep on. I think I will replace the ballast in the bin with coal, for the fires in the signal box, workmans hut and the station the other side of the road

Maybe a wooden crossing from the signal box side to the hut side of the track ?  :-\  ?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-110118151853-60442627.jpeg)

With kind regards
Kevin

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 11, 2018, 04:45:42 PM
My vote is for the wooden crossing.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on January 11, 2018, 09:04:17 PM
My vote is for the wooden crossing.
 :thumbsup:

And me.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on January 11, 2018, 09:21:53 PM
Superb. Brilliant. Inspiring. :thumbsup:

 - and all the other similar adjectives in your average Roget's Thesaurus.

I just love looking at the exquisite detail in your photographs.

And yes, the footbridge would be a nice addition. Just make sure it's gated so the sheep don't go walkabout. :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 12, 2018, 04:48:36 PM
Cheers Guys,

There will be a little crossing now  :thumbsup: probably somewhere near the yard lamp.

Work has stopped on the allotments and embankment, as I have got a new toy  :D

I have had so much trouble with my Dapol 5700, stopping and starting  :veryangry: Being very noisy,  :veryangry: and running like an angry bullfrog jumping and jerking round the track.

I had heard they could be a bit tempremental .... something to do with different types of pick up ??????  but it looks so nice I persevered with keeping it, but after, a repair, a replacement, and still not running well, Fiona at DCC Supplies, who has been so helpfull and patient with me, has given me a full refund, so I bought this set up.....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-120118155045-60443588.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-120118155208-604861534.jpeg)

Arrived this afternoon and runs beautifully  :claphappy:  :laugh:  :claphappy:

The loco looks a bit plasticy though (probably because it is made of plastic  :doh: ) so it will need to be weathered. As the layout is nearing completion, I will soon be looking for someone to do it, as I don't want to do it myself  :no:

Can anyone reccomend someone to weather this 64xx, my Terrier (which I love ) and the autocoach ... and probably fit lights as well .

With kind regards
Kevin.

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 12, 2018, 05:06:30 PM
Looks brilliant and Iím sure youíll be pleased.
Mine runs really nicely.
I have 3 Dapol panniers which (to be fair) run ok but not as smoothly as the Farish 64xx.
Iím like you, reluctant to weather locos. I have a friend whoís done a couple of mine as a favour (and heís done them superbly) but heís not into doing it commercially Iím afraid.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 12, 2018, 05:28:41 PM
Thanks Martin, and many thanks for all your help and advise along the way  :thumbsup:

I am sure on a bigger layout the Dapols run OK, but not on my very tight oval....a shame as they look fantastic.

I am hugely pleased with the 64xx and autocoach combo, and the Dapol Terrier is just fab, so as this layout nears completion, they will be weathered, but not by me !!

Then on to the next layout. I got a good deal on buying 2 of those Drone cases, so 1 more to fill, then I can do a grown up layout  :D :D

All best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 12, 2018, 05:34:44 PM
Thanks Martin, and many thanks for all your help and advise along the way  :thumbsup:

I am sure on a bigger layout the Dapols run OK, but not on my very tight oval....a shame as they look fantastic.

I am hugely pleased with the 64xx and autocoach combo, and the Dapol Terrier is just fab, so as this layout nears completion, they will be weathered, but not by me !!

Then on to the next layout. I got a good deal on buying 3 of those Drone cases, so 2 more to fill, then I can do a grown up layout  :D :D

All best wishes
Kevin
Iím very interested in building a layout in a case. Iím thinking one of those oblong  quitar cases. Iím really keen to get going.
Just need to find the get up and go to go out to buy the case.
I have a couple of ideas for the layout so......watch this space.
And.....it will fit in with my existing 1960s North Cornwall theme.

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: themadhippy on January 12, 2018, 05:58:55 PM
Quote
Iím thinking one of those oblong  quitar cases. Iím really keen to get going.
Avoid anything with sprung loaded plastic catches ,they break if you look at em wrong.stick with the old skool metal flip over type.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 12, 2018, 08:01:02 PM
 :hellosign:

100% agree with the Mad Hippy there  :thumbsup:

Loving my new loco and autocoach  :laugh:

Back to the allotments though.

OK, whose dumb idea was it to try and model a tiny little row of runner beans on their poles  :hmmm: ................yes it was my idea  :-[

Anyhow, ended up with this (And a mass of tiny sticks and leaves superglued to my fingers, and everything I touched !!! )

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-120118195007-604871939.jpeg)

All best wishes.... have a fab weekend. :)
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 12, 2018, 08:08:24 PM
I thnk it loks ok and no doubt looks great at normal viewing distance.
The ptoblem is getting the canes thin enough. Very difficult.
Another way to attach the bean plants is a to put PVA on the poles then roll them in green scatter material (probably the very bright green grass effect stuff). Once dry, tiny dots of scarlet paint will give an impression of the flowers.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 12, 2018, 08:22:57 PM
Yes, that was the thinnest manageable stuff I could find, and as it is natural stuff, (some kind of reed / grass stuff I got for the pond) looks the part of real bamboo.

Flippin' fiddly to make the pole set up though  :o

And great point... I missed the flowers off  :-[  I have some red acrylic paint, so will add some little dots with a cocktail stick.

Well spotted  :thankyousign:

Will get the magazine off to you Monday

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on January 13, 2018, 08:49:21 AM
Lovely looking loco & autocoach, looks right at home

You could look at TMC for weathering, not sure what they charge for the service, but when you buy a loco from them (I just bought 7MT 70000 Britannia) it is an extra £30 for weathering

You have given me some great inspiration to try something with this old keyboard flight case I picked up specifically for the purpose of doing a small layout in a suitcase project, to show some of the off plot bits of the PRPS main layout - I am anticipating a rail head of some description, I got one of the guys in my team to bring over a pickling plant kit from the USofA, so that is the main plan at the moment... and I have a LOT of salt wagons (Saxa & Shaka) so it will give them some purpose!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/4934-150717120334-53357705.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/4934-150717120337-53358649.jpeg)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on January 13, 2018, 08:32:08 PM
This looks like it's going to be an interesting project.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 13, 2018, 09:20:10 PM
Hi Andrew,

Yes, I am very pleased with my new train, and thank you for your suggestion of TMC. They were a company I was looking at, so will be super interested to see how your loco looks.

The other company was Grimy Times. I love the name, and the pics on their website look pretty good.

Has anyone used them ?

Will also look forward to how your case layout progresses. In the Rail Modeller 2018 Special there is an article about a layout in a guitar case. I don't know if you have seen it. I have a spare copy, and would send it to you, but I have already promised it to Martin, as that is what he will be doing.

Back to the allotments I am doing now. Not as straightforward as I thought, as I am modelling them from the back end, but I still want that side to look good.

I did a bit today, to get the greenhouse sorted, and found it easier to do it off site, and will "plant" it later.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-130118205506-605251137.jpeg)

When I first made the beans I forgot about the flowers, but luckily Martin spotted that, so now they are added with little dabs of acrylic paint.

The ground for planting the veggies looks like this.....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-130118205533-60535186.jpeg)

It is embossed wallpaper from Wilco. I am not sure if it is policy anywhere else, but here in Weymouth they have open rolls of all the textures, and you can just tear off all you want as a sample

I used the same for tunnel lining

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-311017151254-57518988.jpeg)

Best wishes to all
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on January 14, 2018, 10:58:22 AM
Great idea with the textured wallpaper, not what Wilco would have had in mind I don't suppose!

Here is a loco I bought from TMC a year ago, they renamed/numbered Sir Nigel Gresley to Bittern for me and their medium weathering level

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/4934-270117061943-47997355.jpeg)

I haven't used Grimy Times yet, but agree their stuff looks good too, I am going to pluck up the courage to start doing some of my own

I'll post some pics of Britannia in due course!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 14, 2018, 11:36:57 AM
Lovely. The red ďflowersĒ on the beans really improve things.
Iím now really keen on my case layout. The hunt will be on for a 2nd hand case of some sort.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 14, 2018, 02:13:28 PM
 :hellosign:

What a great photo Andrew  :D

Many thanks for posting that. It gives me an idea of what medium weathering looks like. I think I will get the Terrier medium weathered, as it will be pulling small goods wagons round the upper level (that is all that will go round  ;) ) and the 64xx light weathered, as it will be pulling the passenger autocoach round "downstairs" and I think would be kept cleaner. Does that sound right ?

Once again love the photo on that great looking viaduct  :thumbsup:

I planted the greenhouse this morning, and thanks Martin for the heads up on the flowers. I also spotted a down pipe to fill the water but was needed so I added that. You can't see it on the photo but it is there .... honest !!!!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-140118134946-60588212.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-140118134940-605821057.jpeg)

The lady with the apron won't be there though I just tacky waxed her there as I like to have a figure handy when detailing anything as it helps me keep things to scale and looking right)

Tomorrow I will put down the furrowed soil, and plant the veggies ..... nothing more today as I am going to a friends Birthday do this afrernoon !!

 :beers: :beers: :beers:

PS Will look forward to your case layout Martin. When you buy the case though, the Mad Hippy is right .... make sure the hinges and catches are good...... I know this from my days as roadie for all sorts of peculiar bands  :goggleeyes:

Kind regards
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on January 14, 2018, 02:22:26 PM
Thanks kevin, the greenhouse looks brilliant, what did you construct it from ?  has a great patina

Thanks too for the offer of the magazine, very kind - It could well be a while before I get to my case layout though ... my main layout takes up all the time I have alongside all the other domestic stuff!

Cheers,
Andrew
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 14, 2018, 02:50:26 PM
Hi Andrew,

The greenhouse is from Peedie Models.

https://www.peediemodels.com/proddetail.php?prod=PMPE33021 (https://www.peediemodels.com/proddetail.php?prod=PMPE33021)

I have had a lot of stuff from them. The Pub sign and benches, life belts, the dry stone walling, and various detailing odds and sods you can see dotted about here, and more stuff for the Station and Yard yet to come.

His stuff is excellent, and he is a really good guy to give help on the phone  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 18, 2018, 11:04:23 PM
 :claphappy: Phew, thank goodness that's finally done  :claphappy:

I can't believe it has taken me four days to do a little vegetable plot less than two inches square and get three halfway decent photographs   :o

I glued down the greenhouse and beans as a completed item, and really wish I had included the veg plot with them.

It has been so difficult planting the veg in situ .... probably the trickiest bit of the layout so far ...... I have done a bit, tried to get a photo, not been happy, then walked away.

Come back refreshed, tried again, photographed again, not been happy, walked away, ....you get the idea !!

Photographs are a great tool to improve your modelling skills, as I believe, rather than I read somewhere, that the imperfections brought to the fore in close up pics can be corrected in photoshop, I think they should be corrected on the layout.

So eventually I got it finished, and photographed. the last pic, from the front was so difficult to get, as the barn and windmill made it very cramped to get my camera in.

Hope you like the end result  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-180118223313-60736515.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-180118223225-606381581.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-180118223226-607351552.jpeg)

Time now for some well deserved refreshment !!

 :beers: :beers: :beers: :beers: :beers:



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on January 18, 2018, 11:07:22 PM
Fantastic work Kevin. That pumpkin looks good enough to eat.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on January 18, 2018, 11:26:03 PM
SOOO cute.

As a dog- (and cat-) owner (???) I miss a dog that tries to bury a bone in midst of the salads...  :dunce:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 18, 2018, 11:53:48 PM
Cheers John,

With Dartley Coombe, you have built half a layout in the time it took me to put in a little veggie patch  :D :D

And as far as the pumpkin being good enough to eat, the carpet monster has eaten a fair few before I got those two fixed ....as well as cabbages, sprouts and some of the rhubarb. Makes a change from him eating the little people  :worried:

Thank you as well Alexander, It was worth doing, and whoever said nothing on the layout is ever finished was right..... you have given me an idea. I have a little dog which came with some postmen I recently bought. He may well be doing a bit of digging when I find him.....Many thanks  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on January 19, 2018, 12:50:20 AM
A great little scene. Enjoy your refreshment!  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 19, 2018, 08:04:00 AM
Great modelling and pictures, Kevin  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on January 19, 2018, 08:07:47 AM
Some excellent work there.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Caz on January 19, 2018, 08:17:29 AM
Well worth all that effort to end up with such a lovely little cameo.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 19, 2018, 08:47:50 AM
Just - fantastic.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on January 19, 2018, 10:15:44 AM
Astonishing :goggleeyes:
A superb cameo
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on January 19, 2018, 11:28:33 AM
Lovely work Kevin, I hope that is a nice sturdy fence at the edge of the plot!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 20, 2018, 04:31:46 PM
 :thankyousign:

Such a pain to get right, but I think I got there in the end  :)

Next up is the embankment. I'm still undecided whether to put steps in it from the mill area to the station access road. I will have to see if there will be room  :hmmm:

Then on to the bits I am looking forward to, The station and signal box  :D

Thanks for your concern over the fence Andrew  ;) To avoid any accidents the Health and Safety Executive have glued all the peoples feet to the ground.... but I have seen "A Night at the Museum" so who knows what they will get up to when I'm asleep  :D :D

With kind regards to all,
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 25, 2018, 02:31:30 PM
Hi All,

I have been really undecided over a set of steps up the embankment. :-\

I waited till I needed a few other bits and bobs from this company

https://modelshop.co.uk/ (https://modelshop.co.uk/)

They have some great stuff not always available from railway shops. (I ordered some plastic channel in 1m lengths as an edging to protect the top of my backscene) I also got some steps and dremmelled away some of the embankment and mocked up the steps to get an idea how it would work.

Photo before ......

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-250118140617-609961740.jpeg)

Mock up of the steps .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-250118140841-61007719.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-250118141027-610082209.jpeg)

And with the station in place .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-250118141038-610092307.jpeg)

I have left it a couple of days to see how I get used to it, but I really don't think it works.  :no:

Anyone any thoughts  :confused2:

The idea was that passengers getting off at the station would be able to get up to the pub, and workers at the windmill would be able to use the train service. I think they need to find a different route !

I think I will get the Sculptamold out, refill the embankment, and while that dries work on the signal box side where I know what I am doing..... Sort of  :D

With all best wishes, and to all Scottish modellers here, have a great Burns Night. There is a celebration at our local tonight, addressing the Haggis at 8.00pm. Fun and Frolics to follow !

 :beers:  :beers:  :beers:




Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on January 25, 2018, 02:43:52 PM
I still think it could work with the steps set into the embankment i.e. as if made from sleepers :hmmm:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 25, 2018, 03:01:18 PM
Hi Mick,

Funny you should mention that, as it was my first thought looking at google images, and inspired by a thread about sleeper built structures posted here a few days ago.

I cut some sleepers, and embedded them in DAS to rough something out. The trouble is there is very little room behind the station. The access road is only just over the width of a car, and no matter how I arrange it, where the steps meet the road on the embankment side, and where the access steps to the platform encroach onto the road it is just a nightmare.

This is one of those occasions where the photo looks better than on the layout  ::)

Thanks for your input though, and all your help and encouragement along the way, and really hope you manage to get your back problems sorted soon.

With kind regards
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 25, 2018, 04:25:22 PM
Hi Kevin
I quite like it, although maybe the steps look a bit too pristine?
I presume you mean that you will build up the embankment sides again then ďplantĒ some more static grass?
Maybe a handrail on one side would make it look better. And of course it needs to go somewhere at the top.
Having said all that, I can see how fiddly that would be.
On reflection, sleepers set in would make it look more informal.
To make it easier you could use short sections of toffee apple sticks (I use them for all sorts of things) set in quite deep so that only the edges show.
Just my thoughts
Martin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 25, 2018, 04:48:14 PM
Hi Kevin
I quite like it, although maybe the steps look a bit too pristine?
I presume you mean that you will build up the embankment sides again then ďplantĒ some more static grass?
Maybe a handrail on one side would make it look better. And of course it needs to go somewhere at the top.
Having said all that, I can see how fiddly that would be.
On reflection, sleepers set in would make it look more informal.
To make it easier you could use short sections of toffee apple sticks (I use them for all sorts of things) set in quite deep so that only the edges show.
Just my thoughts
Martin
PS - if you buy toffee apple sticks get the rough finish ones rather than those with a smooth finish.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 25, 2018, 04:51:35 PM
Hi Kevin, I'm with PP, I quite like it. Not sure what your gradient is but maybe they look a bit shallow? If you make them a bit steeper (but not like a ladder!) they may look better. Just a thought before you get the heavy machinery out!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on January 25, 2018, 05:03:33 PM
How about a "PrŁgelpfad" (in German).
Basically a gravelcovered path that is strengthened with thin trree-trunks or thick branches....
or simpler as in this image:
(http://www.hergiswald.ch/__/frontend/handler/image.php?id=152&width=640&height=480)
These paths often originate from people just walking repeatetly over the same spot...
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 25, 2018, 05:30:23 PM
Hi All,

Many thanks for your replies and advice. I have not done anything yet, as I am going out tonight, and don't want to get half way through anything then have to stop.

I think I will have another go with balsa sleepers as Mick suggested set in DAS, and see if I can get it right. Maybe it was because I was not sure of it, that I did not persevere :dunce:

It is what happens at the bottom that is worrying me.  :worried:

Luckily the station will obscure some detail, much as the pub obscures what happens at the bottom of the road, so I will try again.

As you say Martin, It may be a bit fiddly, but I think you know ...... fiddly holds no fear for me   :laugh2:

Thanks as well Keith. I thought the gradient looked a bit steep, but will try as you say and make them a bit steeper. It will certainly make the job easier

And thank you Alexander. Love that picture. It reminds me of where my friend in Norway lives in his cabin. I think you are right. I will make it more casual, and I know where the people will wear the track at the top ......straight to the Pub  :pint:

 :NGF:

Many thanks for your advice
Kevin

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on January 25, 2018, 07:01:45 PM
The idea of steps up to the pub is great but I can see why you aren't completely happy with the first effort. It just doesn't seem to flow. Once you get the look right, I've no doubt it'll be another smashing addition to the layout.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 27, 2018, 04:25:17 PM
So it is decided that one way or another my little people need to get up the embankment to the Pub.

Tried a couple of other ideas. A man with a red flag to stop the traffic, and a ladder in the middle of the road, or Miley Cyrus "Wrecking Ball" style  :D :D :D :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-270118160646-611281648.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-270118160724-611291633.jpeg)

Will let you know how todays progress goes  :thumbsup:

Kind regards
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 27, 2018, 04:28:32 PM
Great fun  :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 27, 2018, 04:34:45 PM
Cheers Martin !

Am cracking on using all the advice given here  :thumbsup:

One advantageous side effect is the access road to the station is getting nicely weathered naturally as work progresses on the steps  :D

Kind regards
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 27, 2018, 07:26:30 PM
I prefer option 2.  :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 27, 2018, 07:34:40 PM
Cheers Keith,

I saw your awesome crane and thought "I've got a little one knocking about somewhere !!"  :D

All best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on January 27, 2018, 08:20:19 PM
A funicular railway is surely the obvious solution. :thumbsup:

Other than a chair-lift, of course. :D


I think a set of steps would look better, as per your initial attempt, though perhaps more rustic, say perhaps made with sections of railway sleeper laid into the grass slope in a gentle single or very slightly S-shaped curve of staked steps. No handrail of course - drunks find them confusing.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 27, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
 :hellosign:

Well here is todays progress  :)

Taking the advice to go more rustic, I tried again to make the steps from sleepers, but with a different approach. Rather than cut the sleepers to size and try to set them in the embankment, I cut the sleepers oversized and glued them into the cut out I dremelled into the sculptamold.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-270118201840-611652343.jpeg)

Then I cut them to size, and filled the edge with DAS. I cut a slot for the "turning platform" and started on the return.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-270118202000-611682270.jpeg)

When I had nearly reached the bottom, I glued the bottom steps in the position I wanted them to enter the little car parking area behind the station. These steps face away from how you view the layout, so I can be a little more "rustic" if need be, and hope they meet up ok !

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-270118202042-611692102.jpeg)

Yay....The meet kinda sorta OK  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-270118202244-611702237.jpeg)

Next step was to use Sculptamold, mixed with water and a bit of PVA to aid adhesion, to fill in the gaps.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-270118202246-611711059.jpeg)

That is already looking better than my first try. Because I was not really sure if I was going for the steps I don't think I tried too hard to model them, but with your encouragement, I did a better job.

I don't think I will put a fence at the top, just some well placed vegetation, and will try for some sort of rail down the steps ( Despite Mikes fear it may confuse the drunks  :laugh: )

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-270118202359-611721103.jpeg)

You reminded me Mike of the drunk who was caught crawling along a railway track, complaining they were awful stairs ......The steps were too far apart and the handrail was far too low  :D

Now need it all to dry, and tomorrow patch up the static grass, and get some landscaping done.

Thank you all for your help

 :NGF:  :beers:  :NGF:

All best wishes
Kevin




Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on January 27, 2018, 09:40:13 PM
That is 100% better Kevin. Once the 'patching' is done, I think the steps will look quite natural.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 27, 2018, 09:49:06 PM
 I think that will look fantastic once itís all grassy again.
Great job.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on January 27, 2018, 10:04:46 PM
Yes, that's looking good. :thumbsup:  Looking forward to the finished look.

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on January 27, 2018, 10:38:58 PM
I agree, much more of a natural flow and look to it.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on January 28, 2018, 08:46:54 AM
Looks definitely great.  :claphappy:
That kind of stairs is often combined with the construction in my picture above, when it comes to steeper parts of the path. Often also as a progression of construction evolutions. Start out with nothing, then a bit of gravel, then round steps and at the end (nth reconstruction after flooding, ...) square steps...
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on January 28, 2018, 09:49:35 AM
Smashing little 'Stairway to Heaven' (the pub) and just the sort of thing I'd fall down when in my cups ;D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 28, 2018, 09:02:42 PM
Looking very good Kevin.

(Just a tad disappointing that you didnít go with option 2 though... :smiley-laughing: )
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 30, 2018, 01:45:29 PM
Hi Everyone,

Well the embankment is now finished, so here are a few pics of how it all went together  :)

First off I gave the completed steps a couple of acrylic washes, tidied up the road, and tapped a few nails in to get the position of the handrail posts.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-300118122036-61336299.jpeg)

Then on to the static grass to add a "fur coat" to the slope. A base of 2mm, with some 4mm added as a second layer. While doing this I re did the windmill area, as when I first did it, I worked on it before the scenic cement had fully dried, and it got quite squished. This time I let everything dry for a full day, and all was good.

Many thanks to Roger for his advice about static grass on his Wrenton thread  :thumbsup:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-300118122237-61337256.jpeg)

Next, with the grass fully dry, I scraped a bit off around the steps, and glued some sand on.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-300118122259-613381393.jpeg)

Next on to the handrails. To keep the rustic look I used some reed type things I had. Not sure what they are called.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-300118122520-613401585.jpeg)

I kept a figure to hand to keep the handrail height realistic.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-300118122511-613392102.jpeg)

Here it is completed. Incidentally you can tell the difference with figure quality. I really like the Preiser figures, but the one in the middle was a cheap Modelscene one. They are a bit rubbish on the layout, but OK for interiors.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-300118122746-613411093.jpeg)

Then I added a fence at the bottom, with a little scatter to bed it in. Then the road markings went down. The lettering is a waterslide transfer from a car park set by "Scale Model Scenery". The same set I got the "Keep Clear" lettering from at the yard entrance.

https://www.scalemodelscenery.co.uk/product-category/n-2mm-1148/roads-road-markings-n-2mm-1148/?v=79cba1185463 (https://www.scalemodelscenery.co.uk/product-category/n-2mm-1148/roads-road-markings-n-2mm-1148/?v=79cba1185463)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-300118122803-6134296.jpeg)

I may keep this little cameo in, depending on how much space I have when the station is in place. Incidentally, The yellow line is painted on. The one opposite is tape, which I used to indicate the markings before I was sure where they would go. Once certain I peel them off, and carefully paint the lines. (You can see the tape if you click to enlarge the picture)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-300118122815-613431982.jpeg)

Then the vegetation was added. I may add some poster boards on the fence, I am not sure yet. I will also have a road name sign at the end. I have ordered some from "Tiny signs" Hopefully there will be a Station Approach, Station Road, or something like that.

http://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/n-gauge-products/n-gauge-scenic-details/street-names-n-gauge-tiny-signs-tsn21 (http://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/n-gauge-products/n-gauge-scenic-details/street-names-n-gauge-tiny-signs-tsn21)

I will also change the sign at the bottom of the steps. The frame is far to big, so I will make one the same as the one at the top.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-300118123400-613472312.jpeg)

This is how it looks with the station in place ......

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-300118123347-613461673.jpeg)

And the other embankment ......

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-300118123508-6134893.jpeg)

When I had finished the vegetation, I added some flowers. I used the dullest I had, but they still stood out far too much and were really annoying so they had to go

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-300118123558-61349930.jpeg)

Hope you enjoy the pics  :D

With kind regards
Kevin

 :beers:





Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on January 30, 2018, 02:05:01 PM
You've made a great job of the steps and surroundings Kevin. We have a similar set of steps near us. It all just looks right. The effort you've put in has really paid off I'd say.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MARK1985 on January 30, 2018, 02:26:36 PM
 :greatpicturessign:

just simply awesome Kevin


 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 30, 2018, 02:30:40 PM
Kevin, that is outstanding it really works.
I love the chap at the bottom of the steps in the 5th photo. He looks like heís unsure whether or not to proceed for fear of stepping into wet cement  :D.
For me, I donít think Iíd add poster boards on the fence but of course itís your call entirely.
Can I ask what the two holes are for to the right of the tunnel mouth?
And do you mean that the blue flowers are completely gone now?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 30, 2018, 03:44:54 PM
Hi Guys,

Thanks so much for your comments, I am pleased with how it worked out in the end.

You are right Martin, I have some sticky backed poster boards, like I used on the station, and tried them. They look OK, on the fence, but not when the station is there. There are enough signs already.

Glad you like the little bloke  :D I really need to use him somewhere.... he's so expressive with his "What the  :censored: is going on ! " look. It does pay off to use nicer figures when they are so prominent on a layout like this.

The holes on the base are for the station lights. They are lovely lights, from https://www.railroomelectronics.co.uk/ (https://www.railroomelectronics.co.uk/)
They have great lights, as well as loads of other stuff, and are really helpful over the phone if you need to ask anything.

On such a tiny cut down station as mine, I had to sink the lights quite low, so as not to dwarf the other platform bits and pieces, and they go right through the platform and into the baseboard.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-271017043908-57365735.jpeg)

Also yes.... all the flowers are gone  :'(

They were bushes described as suitable for N, HO, and O gauge, but they were fibbing  ;)

They are great for flower beds like the ones by the pub patio, but far too big and distracting here. I uprooted them bit by bit to see if it looked OK with just one or two left, but no  :no:

I have some very fine scatter I used in the top field which looks far more subtle so I may use some of that

I will see when the station is in place.

With kind regards, and many thanks for all your input along the way.

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 30, 2018, 03:47:07 PM
Truly brilliant scenery.
I love the cameo of illegally parked car driver versus "bobby", the folded arms stance etc..

Jerry
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on January 30, 2018, 04:36:10 PM
Wonderful work, Kevin. I am just in awe :admiration:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on January 30, 2018, 05:24:33 PM
Great stuff.  :thumbsup:

Thanks for a very nice set of pictures.

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on January 30, 2018, 06:04:29 PM
Fantastic :claphappy: :claphappy: :claphappy:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 30, 2018, 08:42:11 PM
Thanks for the link to railroomelectronics Kevin
I may well make use of them.

Martin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 31, 2018, 07:51:58 AM
Excellent Kevin,  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 01, 2018, 12:23:08 AM
Cheers Guys,

Thanks so much for your comments  :thankyousign:

I love making little cameo scenes Jerry, so am glad you like the police one. I will definitely include it, even though it will be behind the station.

I don't usually like faffing about with what I have done, as I generally do more harm than good, but something was niggling me about the steps, so I did do a little "Fixing" and added some more rail supports, and I think it does look better.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-310118235934-614041396.jpeg)

Talking of faffing about and causing damage I did do exactly that  :-[ :dunce: :-[

While tidying up round the pigsty area I demolished the apple tree. Out with the sea-foam and scatter, and I made a new one, with little balls of DAS for the apples.

Here is the old, and new ones, and I think the new one looks better  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-121217170439-592091457.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-010218014217-6142563.jpeg)

With all best wishes
Kevin

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on February 01, 2018, 09:32:01 AM
I'd  agree, the second one has a better spread of branches for an apple tree.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on February 01, 2018, 09:46:06 AM
I love the atmosphere you have created.
Iíve never been a big fan of static grass but yours does look good. I could be tempted to give it a try on my new layout. Weíll see.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2018, 09:47:44 AM
I'd  agree, the second one has a better spread of branches for an apple tree.  :thumbsup:

Thirded :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Caz on February 01, 2018, 10:29:20 AM
And fourth'd,  lovely little cameos Kevin.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on February 01, 2018, 10:51:38 AM
Where's Sir Issac Newton?   ;D
 
Not that you'd want to include him.... he was a real nasty fellow, by all accounts.

Great scene!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: The Q on February 01, 2018, 12:39:23 PM
Unless tha gets a good strong fence about them pigs bor, Tha'l mak a mess o' the gaaarden.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on February 01, 2018, 12:50:32 PM
Great step path up to the pub Kevin. :thumbsup: I agree about the better quality of the Preiser figures - always worth that bit extra £ when something is prominently featured.

Re the flowers - I think the bank would benefit from some colour, but I think you spread the flowers too thinly, so they looked rather unnatural, rather than in clumps. Also, the old adage 'blue and green should never be seen' comes to mind. (Okay, so that refers to clothes, but I hope you get my point.)

What would look better I think would be some red or pink flowers on a bushy plant, say one or more of those wild roses that spring up everywhere, and contrast that with some teeny weeny whites or yellow in the grass - I'm thinking daisies and buttercups - also in patches.

Perhaps your guide should be the Apple tree and pumpkins - it sets your time of year as late summer/early autumn, so wild flowers of that period should feature somewhere.

Whatever, all is so far magnificent. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 02, 2018, 12:58:00 PM
Hi All,

Happy pigs make better bacon, so my two (named Pork Chop and Apple Sauce) are allowed to wander about a bit, have a drink in the pub, watch a bit of TV, play a bit of footie with the pumpkin, and generally enjoy themselves before they end up on a plate with roast potatoes and gravy  :D  :D

Thanks for your advice re the flowers Daffy. I think you are spot on, I should have clumped them together rather than polka dotted them. I have some fine scatter in white, red, yellow and orange, so when I have the station and yard areas finished I will see how that looks. I used the yellow on the rocks and it looked OK.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-020218124322-61439816.jpeg)

Also the scatter is fine enough for daisies or buttercups There will be a field of sheep in front of the signal box, and a field of horses with a small stable in front of the station so I think I could use it there.

Many thanks for your help  :thumbsup:

With all best wishes
Kevin



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on February 02, 2018, 01:11:35 PM
You're most welcome Kevin, though it should be remembered that I'm best as an ideas man  :idea:- getting it as good as you do is a challenge! :(

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on February 02, 2018, 01:16:51 PM
That yellow 'stuff' makes perfect gorse bushes! They look just like the gorse surrounding my house, (well they will do when they come into flower).  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on February 02, 2018, 01:24:11 PM
So......instead of the Tamworth Two we may have the Windmill Hill Two making headlines in due course.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 02, 2018, 03:15:51 PM
I had completely forgotten about the Tamworth Two  :doh:

I got a set of assorted farm animals, but decided to use the pigs for nostalgic reasons.

When my Dad was evacuated during the war, we kept in touch with the farmer and his wife who had a farm in Littleport, Near Ely. When me and my sister were kids, we had family holidays down with them, and they had a baby pig in a pen like the one I modelled. Me and my sister always wondered why it never grew up.... every time we went to see Uncle Jim and Aunty Lizzie, the little piglet looked the same size. we never knew it was a different baby every time, and we probably took the previous one home as rashers for breakfast. ::)

No modelling today as I am waiting for a parcel to arrive, so I had a go at taking some photos and turning them black and white.

Hope you like them. The scenic ones didn't look as good as the ones with a loco in, so I'm only posting the one of the barn

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-020218150956-614931559.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-020218150917-614901014.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-020218151019-614941163.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-020218151040-614951140.jpeg)

Kind Regards
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on February 02, 2018, 04:07:39 PM
Lovely pictures Kevin.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on February 02, 2018, 04:35:36 PM
Blank&White, a bit grainy ... almost look real.
Just fitting for such a nice layout that is not set in the latest era.

Well done. :claphappy: :claphappy: :claphappy:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 07, 2018, 11:42:54 PM
Hi All,

The last couple of days has been very unproductive, as I seem to have made a bit of a boobie  :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:

I started on the signal box area, and when it came to the entrance, which I am using chain link fence for, as you can see here from the bit of stick I have laid down, somehow I have not lined up the sides of the entrance, and also it is wider than one gate, but not wide enough for two.  :-[  :doh:  :-[

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-070218225555-616661636.jpeg)

Bashing the gates to fit should be OK, but there are further implications. With the HUGE gap between platform and rail, which is unfortunately unavoidable if I want to run trains (  ;) ) because of the tight curve.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-070218225650-616702029.jpeg)

The two combined make the level crossing a bit tricky. I need it to look OK as it is right at the front, but it may be a bit of a botch job.  :(

Watch this space !!

Anyway, to console myself, and stop myself from thinking about it, I bought 2 new locos from "Rails" for my next projects  :D  :beers:  :D

I also thought I could take a few pics of some of the detailing and scenic stuff. I have had trouble recently taking decent focussed pics, and was talking to a friend about it. He has an honours degree in "common sense and the bleedin' obvious" so suggested cleaning the lens....... Dozy me never thought of that  :-[

Here are some of the pics. I took them before I build up anything more and won't be able to get in quite so close.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-070218233135-616761.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-070218233107-616752488.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-070218233047-61674409.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-070218233005-616732490.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-070218232959-616722267.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-070218232921-616711334.jpeg)

Hope you like the pics. I tried to get shots with no uncompleted parts in. Tomorrow I will try and get some shots with trains. Maybe a bit tricky as the pond is still empty, but anything to stop thinking about the level crossing !!!!!

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on February 08, 2018, 12:00:09 AM
Lovely shots highlighting your brilliant cameos Kevin. Hope you can get the gates and entrance sorted to your liking.

I'm intrigued about your new purchases and your plans for the next project.

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on February 08, 2018, 05:02:59 AM
Great pics Kevin. :beers:

Re the first one of the signal box area - it took a lot of looking for my brain to convince itself I was looking at a model! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on February 08, 2018, 05:12:52 AM
Yep, me too!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: DaveGlew on February 08, 2018, 05:53:26 AM
 :thankyousign: I'm late to the party following this thread. What a great concept and such fabulously creative, top quality modelling. Fantastic work.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on February 08, 2018, 07:30:17 AM
Yep, me too!  :thumbsup:

Yes, me three. Fantastic level of detail Kevin!  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on February 08, 2018, 07:47:13 AM
Brilliant Kevin.
I too am intrigued by the next project.
By the way.....can you send thise two girls round to clean our camper  :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on February 08, 2018, 08:31:55 AM
I have to agree, some excellent modelling Kevin. Not sure one cameo is better than another, (meaning they are all good), but I really like the apple trees now since you 'grew' some more apples.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on February 08, 2018, 08:38:43 AM
Hi Kevn
One of the things that really impresses me is the fact that your figures look just as if they are actually doing things.
Do you buy them like that or do you modify them in any way?
I generally find that the figures I use arenít necessarily in the correct pose.
How do you achieve that please?
Martin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on February 08, 2018, 01:50:54 PM
@port perran (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230)

The following may be of interest for anyone thinking of altering poses of plastic figures -

http://blog.model-train-help.com/2018/01/shaping-people-figures-to-fit-different-railroad-scenes.html (http://blog.model-train-help.com/2018/01/shaping-people-figures-to-fit-different-railroad-scenes.html)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 08, 2018, 02:06:47 PM
 :thankyousign:  :thankyousign:  :thankyousign:

Hi Guys, thank you so much for your comments.... cheered me up after messing up the entrance gates and level crossing area  :D

Sorry no pics of trains. I could not get any I liked without having the uncompleted pond in shot.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-191217214213-595081588.jpeg)

I guess I will have to get that sorted, and while waiting for the water to arrive crack on with the gates and level crossing  :worried:

Incidentally, has anyone any reccomendations for water products they have used ? I hear the Woodland Scenics stuff can shrink a bit, but the Deluxe Products water is quite good.

With all best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MARK1985 on February 08, 2018, 02:23:01 PM
Hi Kevin

my suggestion for what I've used before is the below , evo stik crystal clear . really easy to apply and shape the way you want


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5243-080218142159.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=61689)

can get this for under £10

Mark
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 08, 2018, 02:28:43 PM
 :hellosign:

In my last reply I included a reply for Martin, but somehow pushed a wrong button and deleted the whole thing  :-[

Just dashed off a quick reply, and will be back when the kettle has boiled  :D

The only figures I have extensively remodelled are these for Halloween ......

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-011117174557-57542801.jpeg)

I did like the article you posted David, particularly the line "...but after I ruined quite a few I got the result I wanted "   :o

The last figures I bought were £9.75 for 6 (R.R.P £10.95) so I won't be going along that route  :D :D

All best wishes,
Be back soon !
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 08, 2018, 08:45:54 PM
Hi All,

Sorry not to have got back sooner, but my lovely neighbours called to tell me they had made a huge pot of lamb stew with dumplings, and was just serving me up a bowl. Just right for this weather, as it is freezing here. Just had to pop round  :D :D

The only thought cynical me has, is I am also their landlord, and the rent is due next week !!!!

Anyway, for John, these are my next plans. Inspired by Martins quayside scenes, also the layout that was "double sided", with a dock scene, and the fact I live in Weymouth, with a harbour tramway, that is what I aim to build next. It will be in a case exactly the same as Windmill Hill, as I got a deal for buying two. :)

I first came to Weymouth in the '70s, as a young Bluecoat at the Pontins Holiday camp, where I lost my marbles, my virginity, and some say, all my sense of responsibility  :P ::) :P

This will dictate the era, mid '70s, so I bought this little shunter to work the dock, going round and round, but with a siding for shunting to a trawler or suchlike.

https://railsofsheffield.com/class-04-d2295-br-blue-with-wasp-stripes-diesel-shunter-locomotive-JJJA27675 (https://railsofsheffield.com/class-04-d2295-br-blue-with-wasp-stripes-diesel-shunter-locomotive-JJJA27675)

It seemed a good price, and small enough for the case. I then want to have a ramp to an upper level town, with maybe a car system running ..... perhaps this ....

https://www.magnorail.com/en/examples (https://www.magnorail.com/en/examples)

While I am building that, I will be planning a grown up layout on a door, so will also be accumulating locomotives for that as and when I can afford them.

I hope my tenants keep their rent coming in !!!!

All best wishes
Kevin


Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on February 08, 2018, 08:53:11 PM
Sounds like you'll need them to fund your habbit.  :D

Thanks for sharing the plans, they sound great. Funnily enough, when you posted the Weymouth harbour photo, I said to my better half, I'd love to build a harbour scene. I can see how these smaller layouts with their little cameo scenes are so addictive!

Looking forward to hearing and seeing more when the time comes.

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on February 08, 2018, 09:02:52 PM
That brings back memories of holidays in Weymouth in the early 60s pestering the life out of my parents for more tanners to spend on the submarine periscope game in the amusement arcade, sand sculptures further along the beach and having to get changed behind windbreaks after exiting the sea.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on February 08, 2018, 09:48:09 PM
I hope my tenants keep their rent coming in !!!!


With all those plans, it sounds to me like somebody is going to get their rent increased!  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 08, 2018, 10:30:53 PM

 :hellosign:

Just a few thoughts on figures and cameo scenes, as you can tell I love making these little scenes to bring life to a stretch of scenery.

First off, and particularly in my case as everything is so close, I would not buy cheap figures. As the cameo is meant to attract attention, you want it to look as best as you can.

I love the Noch, and Preisser figures. They seem to have a great deal of character. The knack is putting them in the right place (and not loosing them up the hoover  :-[ )

I choose my figures for scenes two ways. Either I see some figures in a set and think Yes ! that will be fab.... like the ladies washing the VW Camper, and a Postman scene yet to appear (Which I think you will like Martin  :D )

The other way is to know what I want, and then look for the figures to fit. An example is the farm figure feeding the pigs. I knew what I wanted, and had to find it.

The figures however may not be designed for that use though. I wanted figures to feed the swans, and found a set of mountain wanderers to fit the bill.....

http://www.petersspares.com/noch-36870-wanderers-adults-children-walking-pk6-n-gauge-figures-set.ir (http://www.petersspares.com/noch-36870-wanderers-adults-children-walking-pk6-n-gauge-figures-set.ir)

The kneeling figure with the child, when teamed up with a "random bloke" make a great family with the swans ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-080218130642-616822366.jpeg)

Sometimes it is spotting the potential in a figure to fit the scene. Also I do not just glue them straight down. I use wax to hold them in place for a few days, just to make sure I will be happy with their position, then glue them down, checking with photographs (our harshest critics  ;) ) that they are in the right position.

A tiny fraction of a smidgen of a millimetre can make all the difference, especially when photographed close up. Many years ago I used to restore and repaint Punch and Judy figures. Just a slight misjudgement painting the mouth, or particularly the eyes can turn a friendly grin into a very evil leer  :o  with figures a slightly wrong position can spoil a lovely scene.

Also, apart from the Zombies I posted earlier, I do not adjust the figures ... too fraught with danger.... sometime I do dullen the clothing a little though. Figures need weathering too  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on February 09, 2018, 07:53:43 AM
Interesting comments on the figures, lots of food for thought there.

Looking forward to your harbour model. If it is to be based on Weymouth I can check on accuracy, I am just along the coast from you!

Also interesting that you raise the question of model size. As a newbie the temptation is to think that bigger is best. You have very ably demonstrated that this is not necessarily the case (pun intended!).  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on February 09, 2018, 08:21:47 AM
Thank you for the very detailed reply.
Extremely thought provoking.
Yes, looking forward to the new layout enormously (and the postmen).
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on February 09, 2018, 09:58:32 AM
Just a slight misjudgement......... the eyes can turn a friendly grin into a very evil leer  :o

Aha! That's where I've been going wrong on my nights out :-[
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 09, 2018, 06:13:58 PM
Hi All,

today has been quite a relaxing day. The "righting of the wrongs" round the yard entrance went smoother than expected. I thought the whole road would be messed up, but no.

The pavement came up without too much damage, and the new piece went in fine, and taking up the road markings was no problem either, and luckily I have another "KEEP CLEAR" transfer to put down. A bit of chalk weathering should then blend it all in.   :D

The pin is roughly where the new gate-post will go , and I can have double gates now  :claphappy:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-090218175545-617142317.jpeg)

I reballasted the yard, and am just waiting for that to dry. While that happens I can paint the gate frames, and add the chain link. I don't want to get too involved in anything tonight as it is a friends Birthday, and a few of us are going out for a meal later.

 :beers:  :P  :pint: :toot: :laugh2:  :laugh3:  probably ending in  :-[

Now I know roughly what is going on in that little area, I found my Noch Postmen so Tacky Waxed them in place to get the feel of them, and make sure I am happy with them there. I like these two as they could almost be Laurel and Hardy on the post round  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-090218175558-61726558.jpeg)

With all best wishes,
Hope you all have a good weekend
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on February 09, 2018, 06:28:04 PM
Glad to hear it's all working out Kevin. The postman cameo looks good.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: DaveGlew on February 09, 2018, 06:30:05 PM
 :greatpicturessign: loving the scenic work....... inspirational stuff
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on February 09, 2018, 06:47:41 PM
Lovely stuff.
Whatever is that postman dong on his knees?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on February 09, 2018, 08:18:11 PM
I like these two as they could almost be Laurel and Hardy on the post round  :D


That's another fine mess you've gotten me into, Stanley ::) ;D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 11, 2018, 02:22:18 PM
Hi Guys,

How come we are never satisfied with what we do ?

I fixed the pavement, and made the gates for the yard, but only lightly glued them in place .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-110218133303-617871267.jpeg)

A couple of things I think need fixing ... The ballast creeping under the gate needs to go. trouble is it is rock solid, so I think softening the PVA with water should make it easier to remove.

Also I am not sure about keeping them shut. As a Scammell is being unloaded in the yard, I don't think the gates would be tightly closed. Perhaps I will have them open a bit, with a chain and lock hanging off one gate.

Any thoughts  :hmmm:

I used pics like this for  the level crossing.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-110218132959-617811111.jpeg)

And modelled this ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-110218133027-61784109.jpeg)

The crossing gates are untouched, , but the path gate is weathered a bit. I think I have made it a bit too cream coloured. Easily fixed though..

Another thing I don't like is the "Plinth" bit at the bottom of the gate post. As the gates will be non-moving I will take the post out and remove it, so the post goes straight into the pavement like in real life.

The reason the gates will be fixed is because of how I first miscalculated, resulting in this bodge up.

The gates are OK closed.....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-110218133215-617851999.jpeg)

But the compromise I have had to make is to site them too close to the rails so when open they are in the wrong place and would overlap.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-110218133208-617851281.jpeg)

I will paint the hinges and lamps, and may put one of those black metal diagonal struts on if I have some wire fine enough.

Anyway, that is state of play at the moment. Wouldn't it boring if everything went perfectly to plan every time  :D :D :D

Kind regards
Kevin

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on February 11, 2018, 02:35:46 PM
Looks good to me.
Donít forget that the camera will rather exaggerate any slight imperfections (especially from such a close viewpoint). Iím sure it looks good to the naked eye.
I would keep the gravel/ballast under the gate. Iím not one for tidy edges (things like gravel etc are rarely neat in real life). I really do think it looks fine.
As for the gates, how about one fully open and the other partially open? A lot depends, of course, on the size of the scammel in comparion with the gates.
I maybe agree with the plinths though. Do they make the actual gates slightly too high off the ground perhaps?
Just my five penneth, .
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 11, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
Hi  Martin,

 Wow, that was a quick response  :D :thumbsup: :D

I should have put a pic up with the scammell in position, so I just scrambled through the clutter to find my camera and took this quick one  :camera:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-110218151241-61788712.jpeg)

I think it will look more natural if I keep the gate closest to the embankment closed, and the near gate open a bit. The advantage of just lightly fixing stuff is you can look at it over a few days to make your mind up how it should be, before fixing it permanently.

The gravel under the gates looks fine as far as where it is, as you so rightly said, neat edges just look wrong. The problem is it is too thick where I had to re-do the entrance. It is just the top layer that needs chipping off, or the gates would never open !

And yes, thank you for confirming what I thought about the plinths. That, along with the pavement height does make the gates too high off the ground..... an open top sports car could drive straight under them  :D

Many thanks for all your input to my little layout. I have really been enjoying your case layout. Good luck with the static grass applicator when it arrives. I just found out the WWS one we have is the one they supply to Peco, and Peco just put their own label on it.

Hope your weekend is going well

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on February 11, 2018, 05:53:50 PM
Hi Kevin. Good to see the latest instalment.  :thumbsup:

Just my penniethworth but I think the off white cream colour looks very natural. White won't stay white for long with all the vehicles and trains going past, especially if it was oil based paint (which I guess it would have been) which tends to yellow with age. Anything too white can look toylike to my eye.

Another lovely scene modelled to your high standards.  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on February 11, 2018, 05:58:34 PM
Don't worry about gates overlaping when open. http://www.gosportheritage.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/R40INMA.jpg (http://www.gosportheritage.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/R40INMA.jpg)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 11, 2018, 07:21:40 PM
 :NGF:

Hi John and Mito,

That's great, so good to get input from guys who know what's going on  :D ::) :D

The off white does seem more realistic, but I was just a bit worried I may have gone too far off  ;)

And wow, that is some overlap ...... not even slightly worried about mine now  :thumbsup:

Thank you for your help

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 11, 2018, 08:20:02 PM
Don't worry about gates overlaping when open. [url]http://www.gosportheritage.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/R40INMA.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.gosportheritage.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/R40INMA.jpg[/url])


The level crossing gates at Wadebridge overlapped, like these, too. Here they are modelled in 2MMScale:

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_11_2013/post-1074-0-96898100-1383584765.jpg (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_11_2013/post-1074-0-96898100-1383584765.jpg)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 11, 2018, 09:47:56 PM
:thankyousign: I'm late to the party following this thread. What a great concept and such fabulously creative, top quality modelling. Fantastic work.

Me, too! But I was VERY busy when these posts were going up. Now, I can see where Martin got some of the impetus for his new layout. A truly superb piece of 3D artwork.

Cant Cove was always planned to have lots of cameos but, also, I work VERY slowly. (I have the figures and the stories.)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 12, 2018, 11:35:04 AM
 :thankyousign:

Hi Chris,

Many thanks for your comment, and the hundred million thanks you sent. My computer was almost glowing from all the alerts I had when I logged on  :D :D

Thanks also for reinforcing what Mito said, and your photo, re. crossing gates overlapping. I am relieved that it is not only on layouts that it happens, but also in real life as well.

I am working on the crossing now, and will put pics up when it is done.

With kind regards
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MinZaPint on February 13, 2018, 02:53:41 PM
Well I've just spent a very enjoyable hour or two! reading through this thread which I have found awe inspiring  :wonderfulmodelling: I look forward to following your future progress.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 17, 2018, 12:47:16 PM
Hi All,

Sorry, but not much has been going on this last week as I seem to have succumbed to a cold bug that has been going around these parts  :cold:  I have been tucked up with bowls of stew, drinking hot Rum and Ribena, and watching old detective films.

A lot better now ( Although still on the Rum and Ribena ...... just to be safe  ;) )

Many thanks indeed for your kind words MinZaPint, We must be quite close as I'm down in Dorset as well (Weymouth)

What little progress that has been made is sorting the yard gates and level crossing gates.

I was not happy with how they were on the last pictures. The lump at the bottom of the gate post made the gate too high, so I cut that off, and as that meant the bottom housing for the hinge also went, I was going to glue the gate permanently across the road, which I was OK with, as one of the many compromises I had to make having a layout this small, was the gates would overlap on the rails.

However, I was delighted to hear from Chris (in Prague) and Mito, that this does happen, so had to think of a way to hinge them.

I did this by drilling an approx. 5mm deep hole in the base of the gate post, and gluing in a pin with the head cut off.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/61/5755-170218112918-61999833.jpeg)

Then with a hole drilled in the pavement, the gate was positioned in place, and the other post and pedestrian gate was glued in. This made the gate a better distance from the ground, and the whole assembly less clumsy.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-170218113019-620001908.jpeg)

I painted the whole lot an off white colour, but think it is too white still, so when all the gates are done I will make them more cream, as John says (Thank you John  :thumbsup: ) the paint would yellow with age.

The pin spindle lets the gates pivot quite nicely.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-170218113050-620012386.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-170218113138-620021148.jpeg)

The yard gates I also re did, taking off some of the ballast overspill that went under the gates and having one of them slightly open.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-170218113603-620041579.jpeg)

I was going to go the other side of the road and fix the station in, so I could do the other level crossing gate, but will instead finish this side first.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-170218113245-62003587.jpeg)

One of the problems with having such a small, but busy, layout is getting a camera in to photograph it. The only place the camera would go to get that last photo was where the station will be, so I will finish this side, photograph it, then sort out the station.

Also thanks to Roger at Wrenton, whose scenic work is so inspirational, for a tip to have a bit of backscene on a board for propping up when photographing a layout in situations where an untidy workroom would show as a background otherwise.

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on February 17, 2018, 01:08:43 PM
Very nice work, Kevin. Glad you're on the mend and hope the 'Purple Tongue Syndrome' clears up very soon ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on February 17, 2018, 04:01:47 PM
That looks good Kevin.
The gate slightly open really works well.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on February 17, 2018, 04:07:02 PM
Looking good Kevin. The gates look much better with your modifications.  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 17, 2018, 07:25:40 PM
 :hellosign:

Thanks guys for your comments re the yard gates. I think they do look better like this. Also rather than have the two guys unloading the scammell, which makes that small area look a bit too crowded, (especially with the postmen the other side of the fence) I think I will have the driver parking up the scammell, while his mate closes the gate.

 :dunce: I must stop fiddling about  :dunce:

I got very bored waiting for the static grass on the sheep pasture opposite the signal box to dry, so was messing around with the level crossing gate. It was wobbling a bit, and jiggling the static post when opening and closing. I investigated, and yes ....broke it ....... or rather investigated it to pieces  :doh:

on looking close, the problem was the pin spindle was not central to the post, and so was pivoting in a wonky way. I should have noticed this as in hindsight it is quite obvious from the photos, where you can see it bulging out the plastic.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-170218182141-620151153.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-170218182201-62016226.jpeg)

Incidentally you can also see me in the second photo, lurking under the bridge  :D

Anyway, new gate and post sorted, and all is now well. I also put a pin in the fixed post to give it a better fixing just in case.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-170218180347-620141010.jpeg)

Luckily when I bought the crossing I bought two just in case I had any problems  :thumbsup:

Now the layout is the other side of the room, so I will not touch it. The job to do now is to make the crossing signs, and a road nameboard for the station approach road.

Very fiddly job, especially cutting the red triangles  :worried:

With kind regards
Kevin

PS. Thanks Mick, but the purple tongue syndrome will continue till all the Rum and Ribena is gone .....It is a lovely hot winter warmer ...... even yummier now as a neighbour bought me some local honey to add.

 :beers:  :cold:  :beers:


Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: DaveGlew on February 17, 2018, 07:38:13 PM
Maybe a little servo action could operate the gates now that they have spindles???  I've done this with 00 but suspect N could be a challenge.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 19, 2018, 01:24:16 PM
 :hellosign:

Hope you all had a good weekend :)

It would be a fab idea Dave, to motorise the crossing, but I really don't think it would  be possible in this case. There is only 20mm space under the baseboard, and the front pair of gates are on top of the front baseboard frame. Also to motorise all four gates to close without fouling on each other would be impossible .......unless anyone knows different  :D :D :D

I detailed up a bit of the yard, adding a crossing, and coal scathe ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-190218122249-620601681.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-190218122402-620612471.jpeg)

Then out came the static grass, and a base layer of 2mm was laid for a meadow....or at least a little bit of one  ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-190218122620-62064768.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-190218122543-62062266.jpeg)

Then while the glue was drying I made these little signs, from "Sankey Scenics"

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-190218122603-620631061.jpeg)

I also painted up some fencing

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-190218122741-62066803.jpeg)

The fencing was 3 bar, but with the top bar taken off seemed better scaled for the shepherd and sheep.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-190218122705-620652257.jpeg)

Then with the first layer of static crass dry, I could add the fence, and some next layer vegetation.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-190218123017-62067183.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-190218123138-620682099.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-190218123308-620691663.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-190218123405-62070210.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-190218123454-6207164.jpeg)

Next will be adding the shepherd and sheep, and some workers in the yard. I must be very careful not to overcrowd it, so will wax the figures in and leave them till I am happy with them.

Then I think I will tart up the front facia, then over to the Station side, and finish the level crossing

With kind regards
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on February 19, 2018, 01:38:08 PM
This really should be  a 'sticky' thread in a 'How to detail your layout' section.

Brilliant as always Kevin. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 19, 2018, 01:47:35 PM
Many thanks for this update. Excellent photos. of superb scenic work.

I also cut down my plastic three-bar fences to two-bar ones to make them look a realistic height. However, I did not drybrush them with grey after painting them mid-brown, as you have, which makes the fences look far more realistic.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on February 19, 2018, 03:45:54 PM
Brilliant stuff Kevin.
I hesitate to say this (and hope you donít mind) but there is something about that coal staithe that is catching my eye just a bit. It could be that now I mention it your eye will be drawn to it. Is it the fact that it is not quite level?  Maybe Iím being super finickity.

However, if you are happy donít touch it.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on February 19, 2018, 03:53:35 PM
There was I thinking "This can't get much better" and you go and prove me hopelessly wrong! :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on February 19, 2018, 04:42:31 PM
That looks like an awful lot of work done!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 19, 2018, 05:16:41 PM
Cheers everyone  :D

I was not really intending to get quite so detailed Mike, it just sort of happened ;)

As my layout consists of just 2 ovals, nothing more, I wanted to add a lot of interesting things scenic wise,(hence title "a busy little layout " ), and kinda got carried away !!

Hi Chris,I'm glad I'm not the only one that cuts down fencing. In fact there is very little here that has not been trimmed one way or another..... that's the challenge of such a tiny layout  :worried:

Not sure about  the coal scathes Martin :hmmm:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-190218165544-620722304.jpeg)

I had not noticed anything, but now you mention it, there is something about the right hand side that is not quite right. It is difficult to tell along the back, as there are all the different heights, but I may have to do something about the right. I hope adjusting that will be all that is needed, as I don't really want to dig up the whole thing. Thank you for pointing that out. The great thing about being here, is others see your layout with fresh thoughts, and can help so much to put things right before it is too late to do anything about it !

 :NGF:

Incidentally, anyone any thoughts about "Beware" notices for the foot crossing. I looked at pictures of the real things, and none seem to be guarded or anything. I made a couple of notices, but they just clutter the place up so I don't want  use them.

I don't think anyone in that little yard needs a notice to tell them to "Beware of the Trains"  ;)

All best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 19, 2018, 06:02:04 PM
 :hellosign:

It was not as difficult as I thought it would be loosening the coal scathe.  :D

After wetting around the area with slightly warm water, me and the little fella managed to lever up the whole thing as one, and will be able to adjust the level easy peasy

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-190218174121-620731464.jpeg)


 :claphappy:

If anything, Where the small guy has positioned it may be a bit high at that side, but we will get that adjusted between us  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: DaveGlew on February 19, 2018, 07:23:49 PM
Absolutely beautiful scenic work and very inspirational ........ I aspire !!!!!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 19, 2018, 08:18:17 PM
If you're going to move the coal bunker, I'd move it a bit closer to the signalbox stairs so that the signalman doesn't have to walk so far with his loaded coal bucket. 8-)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on February 19, 2018, 09:32:19 PM
It is all looking excellent Kevin - some amazing detail.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 19, 2018, 10:23:35 PM
 :beers:  :thankyousign:  :beers:

Cheers Guys,

The only problem with adding all this stuff is it is getting more and more difficult to photograph anything without knocking anything over, especially those spindly little sea-foam trees.  :worried:

Watch out Dave, you've got all this to come  :D :D

Luckily Chris, I managed to ease up the wonky side of the coal bin, and so did not have to uproot the whole thing. If I had to completely take it out I would have taken your advice and moved it closer to the stairs.  :thumbsup:

The guys in the signal box are upset I did not make it easier for them, but the guys in the hut are happy I did not make a longer journey for them. Actually I may make a little coal bunker for that side. There is room  :hmmm:

Here are a couple of new photos ..... Spot the "Hound of the Baskervilles" sniffing after a few rats ..... He's not spotted the sheep the other side of the fence yet  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-190218215624-620921300.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-190218215451-62077298.jpeg)

All kind regards
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on February 20, 2018, 12:39:01 AM
Charming ! as always  :thumbsup:

I see the young ladies are back washing the camper, after I had escorted/tempted  them away to another eatery just down the line a bit :)


Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on February 20, 2018, 01:33:30 AM
Great pics, as always.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 20, 2018, 07:20:39 AM
Very nice work, Kevin. I hope that you can fit in the signs which you made, in an earlier photo.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mr. Germanman on February 20, 2018, 07:57:49 AM
Hello Kevin, :wave:

As a new member of the NGF now i can post some words to your  thread.
I spend much time to read and look to your Layout.
That is what i like, a little layout with so much details.
Wish i can sit in front  of your little Pub a beer in my hand and look the trains come and go.
I am also planning a small Layout, little much bigger than yours, so your Layout is a great
insiration to me.
 :thankyousign:
Michael
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 20, 2018, 01:08:13 PM
Hi All, and welcome to the forum Michael  :beers:

So glad you like my layout, and look forward to seeing how you progress. As you see, I do love the details, and you don't need much space at all to build something nice. Glad you like the pub as well. I am very pleased with that. I wanted to make a nice pub I would be happy to drink in with my friends..... mind you, some of my friends would be happy to have a drink anywhere at all  :D :D

Today something weird happened.... The sun came out  :claphappy:

I took my layout outside to get a couple of photos in natural light. As I said before, it is getting more and more difficult to take photos without something getting in the way, so much as I like shots of trains taken through trees, the one by the fence had to go. I could not see it lasting very long anyway, if I'm honest  ::)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-200218123820-621162154.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-200218123857-62117667.jpeg)

As you can see Chris, I put the "Beware of Trains" signs by the crossing, I was not sure about them, but they are so small they don't really get in any ones way.

When I have finished the level crossing, I should get the road signs in.

Also this morning I put in the Station Approach sign, which is really annoying the local residents, as there is no Station yet, it is in a box on my dressing table  ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-200218123950-62118724.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

PS, The ladies say "Hi Malcolm ! "

 
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on February 20, 2018, 04:08:22 PM
This just keeps on getting better.
I love the photo of the loco emeging from the bridge.
As ever, your attention to detail is superb. Something for me to aspire to with Tregonning!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 20, 2018, 05:01:38 PM
Excellent, Kevin. Glad to see the signs in place.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on February 21, 2018, 08:00:43 AM
Excellent  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: BoxTunnel on February 21, 2018, 10:52:15 AM
WOW!

Just WOW!

I've spent half my night shift and a few hours this morning reading the entire thread and I can only echo the words of far better modellers than me.

I love the attention to detail on every square inch of your layout.  I feel you have raised the bar Kevin!

Graham, needs to up his game.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 04, 2018, 06:10:57 PM
 :hellosign:

Hi Guys,

Here we are, back again at "Windmill Hill"

Thank you Graham, for your kind words, you must have been really bored at work to go through all my stuff here !  So glad you like the layout, it just shows you don't need a huge space, and believe me, I would never have got this far without the help of some awesome guys on the forum  :D

 :NGF:

Here's the latest ......

As a result of my previous fiddling about, I bought a new level crossing, drilled holes and put spindles on all 4 gates. Then they were painted up, or rather painted down to loose that plastic "toy" look

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-040318163448-625501171.jpeg)

Here is how they look compared to a new one ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-040318163735-625571677.jpeg)

Photographs are really useful to show where you missed something, and somehow I missed painting the end upright  :-[ Easily fixed though.

The gates were catching on the foam between the rails, as it was just a smidgen higher than the rails. Also I had noticed for a long while that the hangy down bits on the couplings were touching this, but the issue with the gates gave me the boost to rip it up

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-040318163640-625562444.jpeg)

The foam was replaced by a thinner strip of plasticard, and all is well  :)  I used a piece with a slight texture to it which I quite like. However, it would be easy peasy to change if it is not quite right.

Also I noticed you can see the pin on the left hand gate ...... may have to disguise that somehow  :hmmm:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-040318163747-625581174.jpeg)

Luckily I can just squeeze the sign in. I made the signs from the "Sankey scenic" road signs, which are so fiddly to make, especially cutting the triangle at the top. My signs look ok from the front, but rubbish from the back.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-040318172413-625601023.jpeg)

However, I found this guy, who has these brass etched road signs. They come painted, and with Sankey signs on them, but the sign is easily removed to be replaced by whatever one you want.

https://www.detailmatters.co.uk/N_scale_Vintage_road_traffic_signs,_speed_etc,_-_etched_brass_-_pack_of_4/p2155294_9808440.aspx (https://www.detailmatters.co.uk/N_scale_Vintage_road_traffic_signs,_speed_etc,_-_etched_brass_-_pack_of_4/p2155294_9808440.aspx)

You might just see the back of the level crossing sign on the photos.

Here are some pics of this finished area. I am not putting the front level crossing gates on now, as I know they will get damaged as I am working. If anyone has any thoughts as to what might be needed railway wise (signage, barriers, ground signals ?) please let me know, as that side of things I don't know about.

Hope you like the pics .... working on the station, field with stables, and tidying up the facia now  :D

First here is the overall view ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-040318174651-62566161.jpeg)

And some more ......

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-040318174418-625632453.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-040318174214-625622063.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-040318174920-62569957.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-040318174833-625681408.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-040318174417-62563770.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-040318174805-625671263.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-040318180448-62572219.jpeg)

Kindest regards
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on March 04, 2018, 06:20:12 PM
That road crossing is looking good. And you solved a riddle we had lately: Now I now why those letters from the island were a bit dirty.  :laugh3:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on March 04, 2018, 06:29:41 PM

Yep, size doesn't matter, it's quality that counts. I love all the little cameos.  :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on March 04, 2018, 06:34:07 PM
Iím running out of superlatives here.
This is excellent modelling and your attention to detail is amazing. I agree about the camera, it shows up things you donít notice with the eye.
Keep up the great work.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 04, 2018, 06:51:50 PM
Iím running out of superlatives here.
This is excellent modelling and your attention to detail is amazing. I agree about the camera, it shows up things you donít notice with the eye.
Keep up the great work.

Seconded. Truly inspirational and thoroughly entertaining.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on March 04, 2018, 07:16:05 PM
Is it okay to say 'thirded'? :)

A masterclass in detailing. :thumbsup:

Glad to see the recent snow didn't cause any delays on this branch of the GWR - or should it be the KWR :hmmm:

Kevin's Wonderful Railway. :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on March 04, 2018, 07:25:40 PM
A beautiful set of pictures to illustrate your work!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on March 04, 2018, 07:42:50 PM
Your work on the layout just never ceases to amaze me, Kevin. It's just stunning :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on March 04, 2018, 07:47:24 PM
Such a consistantly high standard of modelling. I salute you sir.  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on March 04, 2018, 08:01:10 PM
I have to agree with the above comments, not only is the modelling excellent, everything looks 'natural'.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on March 04, 2018, 08:20:21 PM
What I love is the fact that you have so many interesting cameo scenes so beautifully and realistically created on a very small layout and yet it doesnít look at all crowded or overdone.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 04, 2018, 08:56:25 PM
Cheers everyone

 :NGaugersRule:

Had a bit of trouble getting through the door to get to my computer, as my head seems to be getting bigger  :D :D


Sorry about your mail Alexander, we have clumsy postmen here  ;) , and no snow on my railway Mike. The trains always run and the sun always shines.

Also the pub has a never ending supply of cider, and now there is a good supply of roast lamb for Sunday lunch  :foodanddrink:

I'm glad you all like my little camo scenes as well. I try to make them as natural as I can, and I really enjoy modelling them, Thanks Martin, I was a bit worried I was overdoing it, but you have reassured me  :thumbsup:

The camera has been a great help in getting things right, It certainly picks up what needs fixing, and I noticed something dodgy on the last photo.

There are 2 holes on the buffer beam of my loco, so surely there must be something to go in them. Could it be the hook, and that pipe. Going by pics, and my little Terrier I tacky waxed them in, but wanted to check before gluing them.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-040318202802-625732197.jpeg)

Also, I have taken off the front couplings, as I won't use them here. Should that little coupling thing now hang off the front hook. If so is it hanging by the flat end, or roundy end.

Sorry if they are daft questions  :-[

With all best wishes, and thanks for all your encouragement

Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 04, 2018, 09:18:22 PM
Good evening, Kevin, there should be an instruction leaflet which came with the locos. explaining where the accessories should be located. Definitely, the coupling hook and the vacuum brake pipe hose on the pannier's buffer beam should match that on the little Terrier's. The little coupling thing should indeed now hang off the front hook. I'm not sure, though, if it should hang by the flat end, or roundy end. Look at the Terrier's? Or wait until someone more knowledgeable answers.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on March 04, 2018, 09:19:38 PM
Flat end, Kevin.  So that the roundy end of the screw coupling can be slung* over the coupling hook of an unsuspecting item of rolling stock.  In reality, the flat end pin went through a hole in the hook on the locomotive.  I can't see from you photograph if the coupling hook has a hole through it.

GWR locomotives have a nifty little hook on the buffer beam on which to hang the coupling when not in use but I don't think that even Graham Farish can include that in 'N' gauge.

All the very best.

John

* Heavy blighters are screw couplings!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 04, 2018, 09:33:11 PM
That's Fab,

can get them fixed in now  :thumbsup:

Cheers

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 04, 2018, 11:16:18 PM
Has anyone tried to glue a vacuum brake pipe to the front of a loco, only to have it ping out of the tweezers ......... spent over an hour on hands and knees on the floor unsuccessfully looking for it ......then found it while pouring a nightcap at the end of the evening, stuck to your jumper  :-[ :-[ :-[

Cheers

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 05, 2018, 07:10:29 AM
Has anyone tried to glue a vacuum brake pipe to the front of a loco, only to have it ping out of the tweezers ......... spent over an hour on hands and knees on the floor unsuccessfully looking for it ......then found it while pouring a nightcap at the end of the evening, stuck to your jumper  :-[ :-[ :-[

Cheers

 :beers:

I've discovered that it's best to perform such operations in a box.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 05, 2018, 07:22:59 AM
Great modelling Kevin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris Morris on March 05, 2018, 07:57:58 AM
Has anyone tried to glue a vacuum brake pipe to the front of a loco, only to have it ping out of the tweezers ......... spent over an hour on hands and knees on the floor unsuccessfully looking for it ......then found it while pouring a nightcap at the end of the evening, stuck to your jumper  :-[ :-[ :-[

Cheers

 :beers:

Pretty much every time. I use my smartphone as a torch while on my hands and knees under the table far more often than I make phone calls on it. One loco I bought had two detail bags - whoopee spares for all the bits I've lost.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris Morris on March 05, 2018, 08:01:45 AM
Fantastic layout and a most enjoyable topic to follow.

I think it would be great to have a small is beautiful day where a lot of small N gauge layouts are brought together. Just wondering what others think? Should I start a new topic to see what interest there is? Windmill Hill would of course be a must if such an event was to happen. I assume it would travel if asked.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mr. Germanman on March 05, 2018, 08:51:06 AM
Hi Kevin,
i enjoy every little step and every new photo from your layaout.
It's magic !
Now a small inspiration from me, change a scene.
Let the postman crawl out of the pub.
I think after every delivered letter, the postman gets one GIN. So he is drunken
before he comes back to the postoffice.
Have a nice day
Michael
 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on March 05, 2018, 09:54:50 AM
Has anyone tried to glue a vacuum brake pipe to the front of a loco, only to have it ping out of the tweezers ......... spent over an hour on hands and knees on the floor unsuccessfully looking for it ......then found it while pouring a nightcap at the end of the evening, stuck to your jumper  :-[ :-[ :-[

Cheers

 :beers:

I've discovered that it's best to perform such operations in a box.

Thanks Chris. I shall try pouring a nightcap in a box tonight (yes, I know. A glass would be better) ;D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 05, 2018, 10:15:37 AM
Has anyone tried to glue a vacuum brake pipe to the front of a loco, only to have it ping out of the tweezers ......... spent over an hour on hands and knees on the floor unsuccessfully looking for it ......then found it while pouring a nightcap at the end of the evening, stuck to your jumper  :-[ :-[ :-[

Cheers

 :beers:

I've discovered that it's best to perform such operations in a box.

Thanks Chris. I shall try pouring a nightcap in a box tonight (yes, I know. A glass would be better) ;D

If you pour your nightcap into a glass which is placed in a box, you can return any spillage to the glass placed in a second box. 8-)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 05, 2018, 11:02:19 AM

Morning All !

Got the bits sorted, and also crew in the loco, so will retake that last photo when it gets a bit brighter (August  :D) You are right Chris. I should have done it in a box, will try to remember next time.

We get our local brewed Cider in boxes down here (apart from some awesome stuff in old whisky barrels) and when the box is finished, the sludge at the bottom of the inner bag is lovely added to apple sauce.  :drool:

Lovely idea Michael, go glad you like my little layout  :thumbsup:

A meet would be a great idea Chris, as there are some fab little layouts here, which originally set me in motion. Would be lovely not just to let you see my layout , but for me to meet you guys who have been so helpful.

All best wishes

Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 05, 2018, 02:05:03 PM
Working on the station now.

Meanwhile retook the photo of 64xx emerging from the tunnel, with its detailing on. Also added a black and white old fashioned filter to see how that looked

Hope you like the photos  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-050318135249-626171872.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-050318135144-62616918.jpeg)

Cheers

Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on March 05, 2018, 03:45:35 PM
Very nice. :thumbsup:

All you need now is some smoke and steam!  :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Masher69 on March 05, 2018, 04:28:16 PM
Coming along nicely. What make of figures are you using?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on March 05, 2018, 04:29:26 PM
I like the B&W photo.
More of the same please.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 05, 2018, 04:55:17 PM
 :hellosign:

Hi Masher,

As my layout is so small and up close, I find it is better to use more expensive figures than the bulk buy Chinese ones, so most of mine are either Preiser or Noch. You have to look around a bit to get the best price though, and I have found Peters Spares are very good.

Sometimes I use Scenecraft (The station staff) and occasionally Woodland Scenic (the ladies washing the VW)

Glad you like the B/W photo Martin. I tried some a while ago, but of scenery, and they looked OK, but nothing special. The ones with the locos in look far better, and yes Mike, with steam and smoke they would look great.

I wonder if there is anyone here who knows how to do that  ::)   ;)  ::)

All best wishes

Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Caz on March 05, 2018, 05:26:09 PM
:hellosign:

I wonder if there is anyone here who knows how to do that  ::)   ;)  ::)

All best wishes

Kevin

You mean like this? 

Castle 7033 on the down train emerging from Claywell tunnel.  The smoke effect is created by fitting a smoke generator in the tunnel which is automatically triggered using DCC block occupation and Train Controller software.  I've used steam perfumed oil to give it the real smell of a steam railway

(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)

Here's a vid showing it in operation


Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on March 05, 2018, 05:54:25 PM
Spent a thoroughly enjoyable few hours (in between drama's at work) catching up on your thread ... superb work, fantastic cameos and great narratives along the way

....and I learned, next time I drop a tiny component, 1st thing to do is pour a nightcap   :beers:

Just wanted to say thanks for brightening my otherwise terrible day!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 05, 2018, 09:47:51 PM
 :hellosign:

Hi Caz,

What a great photo and video, Thank you so much for that, especially as I have just today ordered from "Rails" a Castle, for when I move on to a grown up layout.

I was actually thinking more of photoshoping smoke etc onto a photo, like some magazines do. I had not even thought of a great idea like yours. Maybe my layout is too small for that, but I will certainly experiment  :thumbsup: :hmmm:  :thumbsup:

So sorry you had a bad day at work  Andrew. :( Hope you are more relaxed at home now, and so pleased my layout progress helped to cheer you up.

I am just now sorting some pics of todays progress ....... will be back in a bit  :D

See you all soon

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 05, 2018, 10:57:06 PM
Hi all, back again.

This is the station I need to fit in.... a kit bashed Ratio station ..... and this is what it looked like before I knew about G.W.R. liveries and branding.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-050318215141-626181552.jpeg)

I then had to repaint it like this .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-050318215150-626311530.jpeg)

And this is how it looks all lit up .......

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-050318215224-626321667.jpeg)

I have made a step by step captioned photo gallery showing the whole kit bashing process here

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=3201;u=5755 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=3201;u=5755)

Here is the station set in place on the layout, and unfortunately this is where all sense of reality goes out the window  :worried: :-[ :worried:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-050318215416-626351116.jpeg)

As you can see, as the station is on a tight (approx. 6") curve, to get a coach round there is a MASSIVE gap between platform and rail. This in turn means the access road behind the station is really narrow.

In fact at its widest point, the gap between platform and rail is 6ft, and at its narrowest, the access road is not much wider. :worried:

Lucky it's only a pretend railway  :D :D :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-050318215354-626341989.jpeg)

I also needed steps to get from ground to ticket office/platform level. These will not usually be seen, but I thought I had to make something.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-050318215446-626371203.jpeg)

Next up was the ballasting, and first layer of static grass in the stable/paddock area.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-050318215546-62638453.jpeg)

You can't really tell, but there is a little unevenness in the grass, but I did not want to make it as rough as where the sheep are roaming.

I will add scatter hedges and trees, but not too much as this area will be a riding school, pony club type set up where gymkhanas will be held, so will be quite well looked after. I may even make some small obstacles or jumps.

Will get back to it tomorrow, and report back  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on March 05, 2018, 11:19:29 PM
Looking great Kevin. The compression you have to have to fit everything in does not distract from this layout in the slightest. It just adds to its charm. And the station is looking a lot more GWR in it's repainted colours.  :thumbsup:  Which paints/colours did you use?

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on March 05, 2018, 11:49:04 PM
Aha! The pannier makes an appearance!  :thumbsup:
 And Caz' smoking tunnel a reappearance! I remember when I first saw that and being blown away by such a cool idea.

I reckon it could work on Windmill Hill providing you had some sort of gizmo (Arduino?) that only triggered it on every 3 revolutions.

Or even just a push-button to operate it. Simpler!

Dunno about the steam flavour, though.... Wonder where Caz got that?   :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on March 05, 2018, 11:56:47 PM
I have put a small steam generator into the tall chimney on a Metcalfe kit and it will be switched on and off by a , errrr, on/off switch!  :). What is puzzling me is, what does 'steam perfumed' oil actually smell like and, could I buy it in Boots for Louisa's birthday?  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on March 06, 2018, 12:00:56 AM
Mrs Bealman would want Chanel No 5 mixed with mine, unfortunately  ::)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on March 06, 2018, 06:34:29 AM
Not to hijack Kevin's great thread but Caz, can I/we please have details of the smoke generator you have used.

The station looks great and the static grass is very effective, something I have yet to try.

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on March 06, 2018, 06:51:38 AM
I'm sure the op would like to know that too (I would!)

We'd better wait for Caz because I've been in trouble on the forum for Brut boxes to construct buildings
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris Morris on March 06, 2018, 07:33:28 AM
Apologies for helping the drift

Peters Spares do an interesting range of smoke oils
http://www.petersspares.com/?searchStr=smoke+oil (http://www.petersspares.com/?searchStr=smoke+oil)


G scale smoke units can be quite impressive but they get through an awful lot of smoke oil. They wouldn't fit in a smaller scale loco but would fit into a tunnel. The problem with these is that the volume is so high that it starts to affect the atmosphere when run indoors.




I've often wondered whether a vaping system might be used but as I know nothing about smoking, cigarettes or vaping I wouldn't know where to star.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Caz on March 06, 2018, 09:36:47 AM
Apologies for helping the drift

Peters Spares do an interesting range of smoke oils
[url]http://www.petersspares.com/?searchStr=smoke+oil[/url] ([url]http://www.petersspares.com/?searchStr=smoke+oil[/url])



That is indeed where I get the smoke oil from, obviously the steam variety for Claywell and this is the generator I use, also from Peters Spares.  This is a 16-18volt one and was the largest they do but next time I think I'd get one of the smaller lower powered ones as I had to add an extra psu to power it.  For static use the No5 looks interesting,

Word of warning, make sure you've always got oil in it otherwise they burn out, don't ask how I know.   :doh:

(http://www.petersspares.com/images/_lib/seuthe-no117-smoke-generator-unit-kit-16-18v-12000387-470-1384969138000.jpg)

http://www.petersspares.com/seuthe-no117-smoke-generator-unit-kit-16-18v.ir (http://www.petersspares.com/seuthe-no117-smoke-generator-unit-kit-16-18v.ir)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on March 06, 2018, 10:07:07 AM
What is puzzling me is, what does 'steam perfumed' oil actually smell like and, could I buy it in Boots for Louisa's birthday?  :smiley-laughing:

As it comes out of the laceholes it might be better to buy it in bottles, David.

For static use the No5 looks interesting,


That should please George, then, as his wife wants No. 5
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on March 06, 2018, 10:58:40 AM
Try heating a kettle on an outback fire with no water in it, Caz!  :-[

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 06, 2018, 11:17:58 AM
Morning everyone,

Thank you Caz for the smoke details. A fab idea.

Thanks as well for your comment John, The compression is certainly evident here, but sometimes there are compromises you need to make to fit it all in  ;)

I originally painted the station before I knew about GWR colours, so searched for pics of stations and signal boxes, and even then it looked like they were different colours, as conditions, age, weathering all affected the look of the colour.

Eventually I decided on these two images as a guide. One a model, and one a real station. In some pics the colours were a bit pinker, but I liked these.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-271017042220-573601390.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-271017070157-573851146.jpeg)

I then took the pictures to my local model shop, and got a selection of paints that looked close, and mixed them at home till I was happy, so the colours are not "straight from the pot" but a mixture.

I don't seem to be able to get on with acrylic, so I use Humbrol and Revell enamels. Since I painted them I found there is a company that do rail colour paints. I believe they are called "Phoenix" (No relation  :D )

All best wishes
Kevin

Kevin



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on March 06, 2018, 03:12:31 PM


As it comes out of the laceholes it might be better to buy it in bottles, David.


 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on March 06, 2018, 06:50:34 PM
Thanks for that Kevin. I did wonder whether they would be Phoenix if you used enamels. I found some Citadel acrylics that are fairly close to the GWR colours straight out of the pot but am away from home at present and can't remember the names of the colours.

GWR colours are a notoriously subjective subject with slightly different shades apparent and even used in real life restorations. Yours look very good to me.

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on March 06, 2018, 07:36:53 PM
I used to have a link to a site called 'Station Colours' but it looks to have been taken down as I just get 'Error 404. Page does not exist' :(
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on March 06, 2018, 07:44:10 PM
'Station Colours' but it looks to have been taken down as I just get 'Error 404.

Is this the site ?
http://www.stationcolours.com/ (http://www.stationcolours.com/)
working OK for me.

edit PS, Ah! it used to be "www stationcolours info/"  but there is a redirect on that page to his new site, so it might have been in transition when you hit it ?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on March 06, 2018, 07:51:16 PM
Thanks for that, Malcolm.
It was the '.info' site I had bookmarked but had not used it for yonks.
The new one is now bookmarked :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on March 06, 2018, 08:06:27 PM
and on that site, in the GWR section, there is a picture of a station I seem to remember, I think "Windmill Hill" or something like that?  here is a clip from it :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/3699-060318200347.jpeg)

though I though the platform was a little more curved than that, must be my aged memory playing tricks.
 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on March 06, 2018, 08:22:20 PM
Interesting: on those old station pictures the platforms are already quite high above the track-level. Somebody knows the typical height above track-level for secondary lines between the wars?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: The Q on March 07, 2018, 09:03:38 AM
Platform Height, depends on the railway that built the line. The old Kyle line was renown for low platforms until they were raised in the last 20 years. While Most had 3 ft platform heights, others such as the MSWJR, had a general 3ft height but with sections raised to 3ft 6 inches to 4 ft to make it easier to load Milk churns.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on March 07, 2018, 09:45:12 AM
Platform Height, depends on the railway that built the line. The old Kyle line was renown for low platforms until they were raised in the last 20 years. While Most had 3 ft platform heights, others such as the MSWJR, had a general 3ft height but with sections raised to 3ft 6 inches to 4 ft to make it easier to load Milk churns.
Those are the measurements for the goods platform? or the passenger ones?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: The Q on March 07, 2018, 10:41:50 AM
In general there was no difference between platform heights goods or passenger. Most stations the goods and the passengers shared the platforms. However as I said, it varied between companies.
 As the maximum standard width of the loading gauge is from 3ft 6 inches upwards.
If you've got a expected heavy goods loading by hand, like milk churns, which were rolled on by their lower edge, then the Platform could be 3ft 6 inches.
Today with no heavy small goods loading all new Railway platforms are built to 3ft (915mm).
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 07, 2018, 11:32:49 PM
Hello everyone,

Many thanks for the link Malcolm, That is a great site, and is where I found out I had painted my station wrong...... never realised Windmill hill was on it though  :D :D

I fitted the steps I made for the back of the station, even though they won't be seen normally. Sorry about the blurred photo, but not only is it difficult to see the area, even harder to photograph

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-070318222150-626871679.jpeg)

Anyway, this is how things look at the front, where you can see what's going on ...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-070318222114-626861132.jpeg)

The Hydrangeas are a bit rampant, but I think they need more blooms. I may mix some pink ones in as well, like this   :hmmm: .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-080318030251-626981111.png)

This is the other end.....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-070318222440-626881686.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-070318222439-62688683.jpeg)

Then it was time to round up some little people to put on the platform ......

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-070318222707-62690581.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-070318222815-626912292.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-070318223218-626941953.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-070318222909-62692738.jpeg)

Ooooo look .....a train  :claphappy:

Now a quick question if I may..... I am not sure what to do at the tunnel end of the platform. I have three ideas

1. Put some steps down, and have a taxi there. Trouble is the Taxi wouldn't be able to get there, certainly wouldn't be able to turn, and wouldn't be able to get out .....unless it was magic ..... no, stupid idea  :dunce:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-070318231925-626971515.jpeg)

2. Most stations would have a telephone box, so put one in this position .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-070318223424-626951852.jpeg)

3. This is my favoured idea. Replace the warning sign on the fence with an advertising sign, Put a warning sign up to close off the end of the platform, and move the phone box along, and have someone waiting to use it.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-070318223438-626961730.jpeg)

I know a phone box by the tracks would be noisy, but only when a train comes  :doh:
so would in reality, probably be quieter than if situated on a road.

With all best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:




Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on March 08, 2018, 08:00:13 AM
Nice hydrangeas :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 08, 2018, 08:01:59 AM
Or option 2.5  :D

Telephone box as in 2, warning sign as in 3.

The hydrangeas look excellent, as you say, a few more flower heads would be even better (there are white flowers too).
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on March 08, 2018, 08:05:54 AM
Lovely - I like the hydrangeas.
As for the options - I like the phone box with the lady waiting but how about steps down to it rather than the little ladder?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on March 08, 2018, 09:23:52 AM
Great update, good to see the station busy!  option 3 looked good ... question is ... have those girls finished washing that VeeDub yet!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: BoxTunnel on March 08, 2018, 09:44:37 AM
I know a phone box by the tracks would be noisy, but only when a train comes  :doh:
so would in reality, probably be quieter than if situated on a road.

Ring ring, ring ring...

Hello?

Hi Mum it's Graham.

Warblewahwarble

Graham.  GRAHAM!  Your son... hang on, a train is coming...

Warblewahwarble

Sorry Mum, I couldn't hear you because of the train.

Warblewahwarble

What do you mean which son?  You've only got one!  Beepbeepbeepbeepbeep Hang on, I need another 2p... ah, found one.

Warblewahwarble. Warblewahwarble.

Well what was Dad doing standing on the wall in his pyjamas with a frying pan in his hands anyway?  Sorry, another train coming through...

Warblewahwarble, Warblewahwarble, Lions, Warblewahwarble.

Mum, the only Lions in Wiltshire are safely in bed at Longleat, and I'm pretty sure they have no interest in Dad's runner beans beepbeepbeepbeepbeeep, must have another 2p here somewhere, ah yes!

Warblewahwarble Warblewahwarble

Yes Mum, I'll come straight over tomorrow to check the runner beans for lions!

Don't forget my Mothers day present.

Oops, sorry Mum, another train coming through, it's a big one and I might be here for days! Beepbeepbeepbeepbeep.  Phew!, no more 2p pieces left!

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 08, 2018, 08:52:43 PM
My vote is for Option 3 but steps off the end of the platform to ground level. Strictly speaking there should be a ramp but there is, of course, no space. Without any steps, there should be a GWR metal fence across the end of the platform to stop passengers walking off the end, at night, after being in the pub! A warning notice can then be fixed to the fence.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 10, 2018, 06:25:30 PM
Hi All,

Current state of play at Windmill Hill is the girls have finished the VW, and are waiting for us in the Pub Andrew.  :D

Also, have heard from your Dad Graham, and the runner beans are fine  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-100318174113-62777353.jpeg)

I sorted out the platform ends. The tree by the station buildings had a very flimsy trunk, and I have broken enough now, so I gave it a thicker trunk, and also added to the Hydrangea blooms. I think they look better with the pink ones added.  :)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-100318153950-627701994.jpeg)

Then up to the other end. I tried so many step / ramp variations, and all took far too much space, and anyway, no one really needs to get off the end, so I blocked it off with a sign.

I redid the fence at that end while I was at it, to try and make it work as Chris suggested (Thank you) but carrying the fence on at that height did not work, as it looked awkward being just part of a panel, but more importantly, was catching on the coach as it went through. The sign worked better, as it allowed the coach to pass freely.

I have ordered new telephone boxes as well. I cut the door out of that one ages ago, so I could have someone coming out, and somewhere lost the door.  :-[

Here's how it looks with the phone box waxed in ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-100318154030-627711370.jpeg)

Then I moved to the other side, to work on the stables, an Ancorton kit.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-100318162533-62773955.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-100318154130-62772950.jpeg)

Then as I ran a train round to check clearances with the hedge, CATASTROPHE !!

 :veryangry:  :veryangry:  :veryangry:  :veryangry:

I kept getting derailments, at the back of the layout, under the upper level. I had left an opening at the back, and when I looked, somehow overnight, the rails I have marked yellow have come unclipped off the sleepers.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-100318153607-62769960.jpeg)

Really not sure how to sort this. The track needs replacing, but will be really difficult to do  :hmmm:

But hey ho, the hydrangeas look good  :)

Major work ahead  :(

Kind regards
Kevin

 :beers:


Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: DaveGlew on March 10, 2018, 06:29:46 PM
Ho hum...... Such a shame when all was going so beautifully.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on March 10, 2018, 06:41:58 PM
Oh lawks, I can hear the sound of thinking caps being rummaged for in drawers across the land, dear me.

 :hmmm:  :worried:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on March 10, 2018, 06:57:01 PM
Random thoughts :
Central heating too high last night ? maybe it was trying to expand, butted up and popped up ?

are there gaps in other parts to stop it unzipping further round if that was the case. If so a temporary bridge / clamp on the good ends adjacent to the yellow at each side to stop more unzipping ?

And I was thinking of resurrecting my veg patch for some runner beans this year, now looking over shoulder for lions :(
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on March 10, 2018, 07:46:20 PM
Hopefully you will get it sorted quickly.
Apart from the rail issues - its all looking excellent as ever.
The gardener at Tregonning has also planted Hydrangeas but the pink variety.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 10, 2018, 10:43:22 PM
Hopefully you will get it sorted quickly.
Apart from the rail issues - its all looking excellent as ever.
The gardener at Tregonning has also planted Hydrangeas but the pink variety.

Seconded. I do hope that you can, somehow, repair or replace the damaged rails. It sounds like they were too taut; so much so that they were pulled off the sleepers?

Regarding the platform fence, I meant a short extra section of railing ending before the edge of the platform white line so it should not obstruct a passing train but would, mostly, block off the end of the platform. Then you would be able to place the warning sign on the short added section.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 11, 2018, 11:57:06 AM
Hi All,

I think  you are right Malcolm, it must have been the heating, as it was really cold, so I left the heating on overnight for the morning, which I don't normally do. Also the rail joiners were soldered, so no leaway for expansion, which I have since learnt (and now found out  :worried: ) is a bad idea.

After lunch I will see what can be done. I think I need to take the backboard off, which will give me better access, from the sides, as well as the back. It is screwed on, with just a little bit of glue in a few places, so should come off fairly easily, and I have ordered new replacement photoscenes.

Will keep you informed as to how things go, but no scenic work for the moment  :(

With kind regards,
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on March 11, 2018, 11:59:47 AM
Sorry to hear about this Kevin. I'm sure you'll have it sucessfully sorted in no time though.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on March 11, 2018, 02:04:08 PM
sorry to hear about the track issue, hope you manage to resolve it with out too much hassle
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Caz on March 11, 2018, 02:25:13 PM
I'm guessing it's code 80 rail, I don't think that would ever happen using code 55  ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 11, 2018, 04:39:44 PM
Yes Caz.

I started building the layout before I knew about different types of track.  :dunce:

If I had known about code 55 I would have used that, as I believe the rail is bedded in the plastic more, and also it would look better considering the level of detail I knew I would be building to.

Still, if we never made mistakes, we would never learn anything.  ;)

All best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on March 11, 2018, 05:13:57 PM
which I have since learnt (and now found out  :worried: ) is a bad idea.
What a horrid way to find out though :(

is there enough room to work to slit each rail at both ends of the damage section ? To then chop it out.
could a replacement section be pre built/ bent externally and slipped in.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 11, 2018, 05:31:59 PM
Yes Malcolm, that is what I am aiming to do.

The track is only pinned down in the under the hill section, and not ballasted, so will come up easy.

I can get a dremmel in to cut the section out, I just hope I can wiggle it into the right position  :)

The new track will be glued down. I hear copydex is best  ???

All best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on March 11, 2018, 05:33:46 PM
sorry for abrupt end to previous msg. bit of domestic duty ! more thoughts later
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on March 11, 2018, 05:56:34 PM
The problem with splicing a piece in is if code 80 is used to maintain the rail height the chances of a repeat problem lurk, and if a piece of code 55 is used there will be a 'step' between the 2 codes :-\
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on March 11, 2018, 07:25:45 PM
Sorry about the interruption to normal service !, it seems there was a missunnerthingie with the domestic staff, I was settled down for a nice quiet evening but wondered why my food had not arrived. New coded instructions came from the Kremlin 'food' 'takeaway' and whilst about it fuel the batmobile ready for the troops tomorrow !

Ah good you have it well in hand,

I was about to enquire if you knew about copper-clad pcb sleepers to which rail can be soldered (temporarily?) to keep the cut ends stable, or small brass nails to keep the ends in place while you fiddle with the new and its fishplates.

What is worrying me is how stressed the other bit got and how well it remains captive in its sleepers ? :( So minimum stress/disturbance to it while you are fiddling with its ends !

There may be a silver lining : the damaged sleepers and a layer of baseboard plywood? could be cut out. the new bit could be constructed outside on its layer of board, then the whole could be slotted into place , repeatedly ! ie a cassette interchange :)

There should not be a repeat if using code80, because now there will be at least two expansion joints.
Not sure if, with an eye to the summer!, an extra gap should be made in the remaining good bit ? cos the 2/3 or is it 3/4 circle may still be at risk, sorry for any extra worry !

Phew, didnt realise I had so much twittering still to do :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on March 11, 2018, 07:55:09 PM
I forgot to comment on the copydex  question, dunno ! I am having an argument with myself if it might be better to leave this bit floating, retained by T-pins or something like that.

it is too many decades since I did 'materials sciences' so I am not sure how to assess the radial stress on the 2/3 or 3/4 circle  that may come in the summer ? ie. how many, if any, extra gaps ??  anyone ??
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on March 11, 2018, 08:33:00 PM
The biggest stress is going to be repairing it! My non-technical solution would be to use a piece of set track and if the radius is not quite the same, cut the plastic under the rails on one side to alter the radius. Doing this should make the set track more flexible. If you have to increase the radius cut the inside rail, to decrease it, the outside rail.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on March 12, 2018, 01:50:05 AM
The biggest stress is going to be repairing it!
Quite so !

My thinking (on raising the issue) was that a linear expansion is obviously the big concern and if that were in a straight bit of track -with ease of sliding back/forward thro' the sleepers- it would , ,blah&blah ,,  , but this isnt ! it is bent !! so there is going to be a component sideways as well, depending on how pinched it is ( think coopers and their craft, even tyres on loco wheels ! )
 is it something , re. number of slots per part circle, that Kevin need worry about come the summer !

Ok, back under my slate.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on March 12, 2018, 06:44:22 AM
I think that, if you use streamline and Copydex it down, with no soldered joints, it will be fine.  I have 3/4 +1/4 circles to make 180 degree turns.  I don't think the coefficient of linear expansion is sufficient to cause a problem if you don't solder sections together.  If you want to link sections, without a lot of droppers, you can simply link one length of track to the next with a short length of tinned copper wire.  If the track is hidden from view, it doesn't really matter what it looks like.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Caz on March 12, 2018, 03:05:42 PM

Still, if we never made mistakes, we would never learn anything.  ;)

All best wishes
Kevin

How do you think I've learnt what I have, happened to me when I started Claywell and then switched to 55, so much stronger and looks so much better especially after weathering and ballasting.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: David Asquith on March 12, 2018, 04:20:43 PM
Hi,

I had a similar problem but my track was in a more accessible location.  I pinned the rails back into the chairs and then ran runny super glue along each side of the rail until it ran into the chairs.  Works very well and looks fine after a touch up to the weathering.  Yours being in a hidden location wouldn't need that.

regards

Dave
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 12, 2018, 08:25:48 PM

Well it may not be too bad  :)

Thank you for all your help, and here is the state of play .....

On this early pic, the red shows the track joints that are there now. If I remove the blue section of track and replace it, NOT soldering the rail joiners there will now be 3 joins, the red at the front, and the 2 new yellow ones, which should be ok.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-120318195243-628692363.jpeg)

I labelled the wires for the on/off/charging side panel

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-120318195511-628861666.jpeg)

and then took the backscene off .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-120318195626-628872409.jpeg)

And here is the unseen back of the layout

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-120318195653-628881463.jpeg)

Being able to get in through the sides as well, reveals the damage is not too bad. This is the section that needs replacing ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-120318195743-628892252.jpeg)

I have some track, and will have a walk into town tomorrow for some copydex

All kind regards
Kevin



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 15, 2018, 09:34:29 PM
 :hellosign:

After traipsing all over town on Tuesday, I found that any younger shop person had never heard of copydex, and any older shop person hadn't see any for years, so have put the track replacement on hold, until I get some on t'internet

Yesterday I sorted the telephone box and platform end out, and made a few adjustments to fences and hedges to make sure the autocoach would have no problems round the bends. Unfortunatly I had to shave a bit off the platform edge, but it is not really noticeable in "the flesh"

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-150318205443-62953741.jpeg)

Also I smartened up the front facia where the light switches are .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-150318205715-629642487.jpeg)

Then onto the new backboard. I think the problem that made the track come loose was leaving the layout too close to a heater, as the plastic backboard had buckled above and below the access cut out.....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-150318205847-629671116.jpeg)

I cut a new one out, and applying heat from a fan heater, bent it round a former the same size as the layout.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-150318205904-62969467.jpeg)

Then when it had formed I put the layout on a flat board, as my workbench is a bit uneven, and screwed the backboard to the layout, and WOW ! perfect fit round the base, just need to trim it up and cut an access panel.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5755-150318210006-629701961.jpeg)

By then I should have some copydex.  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on March 15, 2018, 09:41:12 PM
Glad you got things sorted, Kevin. I got my Copydex at B & Q.
That last pic taken at night looks very good ;D ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on March 15, 2018, 10:23:29 PM
Glad you got things sorted, Kevin. I got my Copydex at B & Q.
That last pic taken at night looks very good ;D ;)
:laughabovepost:
bad news I am afraid, that is not at night, that is the frozen image rendered in Hawking radiation ( for which he will ever be famous, RIP wonderful chap) just before it passed the event horizon *
 :laugh3:

And Kevin thought volcanoes were a nuisance :)

EDIT * of the black hole. -for those who dont follow cosmology, the universe and everything, 42. :)

well done Kevin, good progress, I wonder, modern double sided sticky is pretty tenacious stuff these days, little tabs of ?
or tacks.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on March 15, 2018, 10:28:55 PM
@Phoenix (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5755) If your having problems getting Copydex locally Kevin, I've got a spare new bottle here. If you pm me your address I can post it in the morning and with a fair tail wind you should receive it Saturday.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on March 15, 2018, 10:57:19 PM
The black background sets off the layout well. :thumbsup: I just wonder if you leave it as is and not put a back scene on.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: DaveGlew on March 15, 2018, 11:22:08 PM
all this talk of Copydex...... I use UHU from the pound shop for track fixing and it seems to work OK on my foam base. Is Copydex a better option???
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 15, 2018, 11:37:16 PM
Hi All,

Yes, seems to be getting sorted now  :claphappy:

That is very kind of you John to offer your copydex, but I have ordered some online, along with some lettering for the front facia, thank you so much for the offer though  :thumbsup:

And the black background ...... It is funny you should mention leaving it Mito ...... I was reading a thread on RM web all about black backgrounds, with some interesting ideas and images.

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/119967-black-backscenes-good-idea-or-terrible-idea/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/119967-black-backscenes-good-idea-or-terrible-idea/)

Kind regards
Kevin

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on March 16, 2018, 07:08:52 AM
all this talk of Copydex...... I use UHU from the pound shop for track fixing and it seems to work OK on my foam base. Is Copydex a better option???

Copydex is better from the point that it's quite easy to lift and clean the track should you want or need to make changes.

Certainly UHU is a lot cheaper that Copydex*, (hunt on the interweb for best prices) but suspect much harder to get rid of should that be required.

*Other latex type glues are around but usually in much larger packs.

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: DaveGlew on March 16, 2018, 08:20:09 AM

Copydex is better from the point that it's quite easy to lift and clean the track should you want or need to make changes.

..... but suspect much harder to get rid of should that be required.

*Other latex type glues are around but usually in much larger packs.

Dave G


Thanks Dave

Seems reasonable here......

www.homecrafts.co.uk/copydex-500ml-bottle-each?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjcm_j7Xw2QIVwZ0bCh3IIwusEAkYASABEgIQLvD_BwE (http://www.homecrafts.co.uk/copydex-500ml-bottle-each?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjcm_j7Xw2QIVwZ0bCh3IIwusEAkYASABEgIQLvD_BwE)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on March 16, 2018, 08:23:57 AM
Great to see the layout coming back together - I just use PVA to fix my track, no problems so far
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on March 16, 2018, 10:26:12 AM
No worries Kevin. Glad you were able to track some down. Ordering it online never occurred to me.  :doh:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on March 16, 2018, 11:47:35 AM

Copydex is better from the point that it's quite easy to lift and clean the track should you want or need to make changes.

..... but suspect much harder to get rid of should that be required.

*Other latex type glues are around but usually in much larger packs.

Dave G


Thanks Dave

Seems reasonable here......

[url=http://www.homecrafts.co.uk/copydex-500ml-bottle-each?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjcm_j7Xw2QIVwZ0bCh3IIwusEAkYASABEgIQLvD_BwE]www.homecrafts.co.uk/copydex-500ml-bottle-each?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjcm_j7Xw2QIVwZ0bCh3IIwusEAkYASABEgIQLvD_BwE[/url] ([url]http://www.homecrafts.co.uk/copydex-500ml-bottle-each?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjcm_j7Xw2QIVwZ0bCh3IIwusEAkYASABEgIQLvD_BwE[/url])


Delivery always adds a chunk but @£2.95 for quite a heavy pack isn't bad at all.  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on March 16, 2018, 08:58:36 PM
I've just read the link you posted. Very interesting. I like the black or dark grey idea and may try it in mine. I have some lamp black which is not quite black but not grey. But I think it will only work on small layouts and in an industrial or urban setting.
I hope you've got the track problem sorted.
It's a cracking little layout you've built, a great inspiration.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: DaveGlew on March 17, 2018, 06:57:46 PM
I use a black background for my 00 (there I go again, swearing) in my loft layout. I used 9" hardboard strips painted matt black with black garden weed matting above. The weed matting has the bonus of hiding the roof trusses and keeping the grit from the roofing felt off the layout. With a judicious use of trees and buildings it doesn't seem any the worse for wear by not having a backscene.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 17, 2018, 07:34:12 PM


I found that post very interesting Mito, and glad you did as well. All seems to be getting back under control, and I am now thinking about what to put in my other case (I got a good deal for buying two at once  :thumbsup: )

When I took the backscene off I was very tempted not to have one at all, but decided against that as there are too many trees and things that need that bit of protection it gives

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:  :cold:  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 21, 2018, 11:16:34 AM
Morning all  :wave:

With the new backboard in place, I shaped the edges to a nice curve, and fitted the facia panel with the light switches, and the little on/off/charger panel.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-200318164553-631511149.jpeg)

The layout runs on batteries, charged through this input jack socket.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-200318164457-63150103.jpeg)

While I am waiting for copydex to fix the track problem, and the vinyl lettering for the front panel, I decided to sort the lake out. I have bought some Deluxe Solid Water, and first thing to do was fill the lake with real water to check there are no leaks, and make sure the level is ok.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-200318152522-631491829.jpeg)

Good news and bad news  :worried:

The lake is watertight, but the level is a bit off. the left hand bank needs to be a bit higher, and the beach needs to be a bit lower. I scraped off the static grass and raised the bank with a bit of polyfiller, then carefully took up the details on the beach, and dremmeled the sand down.(The polyfiller is not yet put on here )

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-200318151343-631331746.jpeg)

Then the background detailing was put back on. First the little bit by the Pub.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-200318151428-631452083.jpeg)

This is the scratch built swing which will go back on the grass ..... very fiddly to make. Not sure about the hair on the no-face kid pushing the swing, may need a dab of paint   :o

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-200318151343-631332371.jpeg)

Then on to the boathouse, in cruel and unforgiving close up  ;) ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-210318104555-63170363.jpeg)

And then to the other side, where there are two fishermen. They spent all their money in the Pub, so can't afford fishing rods, but hey ho..... they're having fun  :D
I tried adding a small jetty here that a little boat could tie up to, or they could fish off of, but it looked wrong. It looks much more natural with them on the bank. Strictly speaking the standing bloke should be in the water with those waders on, so I will paint them out.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-200318151528-631472145.jpeg)

Here is the whole beach area. The dotted red line is roughly the waters edge. Today I will replace the other bits, and re grass the bank.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-210318111149-631841788.jpeg)

All kind regards
Kevin








Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on March 21, 2018, 11:56:21 AM
first thing to do was fill the lake with real water to check there are no leaks, and make sure the level is ok.



I salute your courage, mon brave! :worried:


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-200318151428-631452083.jpeg[/url])



Yay! I've spotted Michael Portaloo ;D

As ever, your detailing skills are just awesome, Kevin :admiration:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on March 21, 2018, 03:40:11 PM
Top work Kevin. And thanks for the narrative too. It gives a good insight into you planning, reasoning and execution of the work.
  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on March 21, 2018, 03:54:37 PM
Thank you for the update Kevin.
It really is remarkable what you have managed to fit into such a small space and yet it doesnít appear cluttered.
Looking forward to Case Number 2.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on March 21, 2018, 09:03:45 PM
I do like that black backdrop. It really sets the layout off. Why not keep real water? With your skills you could build a little waterfall and pump the water round. The sound of real running water. Who needs DCC? :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 21, 2018, 09:08:18 PM
I prefer a nice blue sky backboard as it is a nice summer's day at Windmill Hill.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 21, 2018, 10:17:17 PM
Hi there,

Had a good day today. The static grass went down ok, and all the details on the beach are coming together. Most is back down, and will take some pics when the people are back on.

I was a bit nervous about filling the lake Mick, but thank you for your confidence in me Mito, but I don't think I could fit a real waterfall in there  :D  :no:  :D

I'm glad you enjoy my posts John, and I appreciate your comments re. the narrative, as I do try hard to make the thread flow, and explain not only how, but why I do things, so thank you  :thumbsup:

And thanks Martin..... won't be long before I have to start thinking about case 2.  :worried:

The black background does show off the model Mito, but Chris, you are quite right, it is a lovely summers day on "Windmill Hill" so the photo background will be back  :D :D

That's all tonight. Tomorrow some pics, and I will have a play with the water for the lake. I have some Deluxe Products Solid water.....this stuff......

http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=DLBD-36&style=main&strType=&Mcode=Deluxe+Materials+BD%2D36 (http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=DLBD-36&style=main&strType=&Mcode=Deluxe+Materials+BD%2D36)

I have some plastic shot glasses to try the stuff out, and experiment with some colours. Has anyone used it before, and has any tips ?

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on March 22, 2018, 07:22:12 AM
Enjoying your posts, Kevin.

Expect you've seen these already but just in case ......

Bit of a silly intro but the video seems useful:

https://youtu.be/liIMs1-40dg

This chap's worth a look too!

https://youtu.be/2TwpB7sVMn8

Dave G


Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 22, 2018, 12:32:35 PM
Hi Dave,

Many thanks for those links Dave, and glad you enjoy what's going on with "Windmill Hill"

I had not seen the first video, but I like reviews from unbiased people ..... and yes, what about that intro  :D :D

With all best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: DaveGlew on March 22, 2018, 05:58:15 PM
It's official, "Windmill Hill" is now my preferred read over Railway Modeller.... I'm just loving the cameo detail that you bring...... Inspired work!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 24, 2018, 09:06:51 PM
 :hellosign:

Hi all, and thank you for your comments Dave. I am flattered "Windmill Hill" is your top read,  :D so here is the latest update .....

I have completed the detailing round the lake. here is a quick overview. I will put up some more pics when I start on the water.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-240318204356-633622459.jpeg)

While doing that, and generally tidying up, I noticed some over enthusiastic hoovering had taken up some ballast. :worried:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-240318202311-633612340.jpeg)

That was easily fixed, and the top level track given a good clean. Then yesterday, this arrived ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-240318194851-63345395.jpeg)

This means I can letter up the front facia, which should be ok, and I can replace the wonky track, which I am a bit nervous about. :worried:

With the backboard taken down for easier access to the track at the back, and to put a new photoscene on, I took these pics from points of view I could not get to with the board in place  ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-240318195100-63358726.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-240318195127-633591929.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-240318195052-633571014.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-240318195159-633601660.jpeg)

Just in case anyone is wondering..... no, absolutely no way will the black 57xx go round that curve, but it made a change to the Terrier  ;)

Hope you are all well, and will let you know how I get on with the track replacement

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on March 24, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
Another great group of photos Kevin. :thumbsup:

Now, can you stop posting them as my modelling self-esteem is taking a hammering! :worried:

Only kidding - keep 'em coming! And get that pond filled - there's been complaints from the local ducks. :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on March 24, 2018, 09:34:04 PM
Brilliant as ever.
Keep those pictures coming.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on March 24, 2018, 10:01:27 PM
 :greatpicturessign:

Well done.  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on March 24, 2018, 10:07:38 PM
Another forum member forcing me ever closer to taking up knitting :worried:
I shall have to use this as an instruction manual when it comes round to scenics & detailing.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on March 24, 2018, 10:30:59 PM
Great pics!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: JohnN on March 25, 2018, 10:20:47 AM
Some more cracking pics Kevin. The individual cameo shots give the illusion that this layout is much larger than it actually is.

Hope the track repair goes smoothly.  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 25, 2018, 10:30:31 AM
I fully agree with all the above admiring posts and also look forward to the return of the water. Modelling water is not easy but I'm sure we'll all be able to learn from how you'll achieve it, Kevin. Superb scenic modelling.

I forgot to mention earlier that the modification of the fencing at the end of the station platform is just what I had in mind and now looks very good, too.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 25, 2018, 01:48:13 PM
Hi everyone,

Thank you all for all your comments, and yes Mike, the lake does need filling. I have got a little pack of swans and ducks waiting.... you must be able to hear them from here  :D

The lake will take some time though, It will take an age for each layer to dry, and I think I will need 3 layers for the depth. I have got pots of different coloured solid water lining up waiting to dry, to get the right colour water, and playing about with ripple effects.

One thing bemusing me though. The water is a two part epoxy. and should be mixed 2 parts resin, 1 part hardener, yet both come in same size bottles  :hmmm:

I do appreciate your comments re my detailing, and can only thank you all for your help, and encouragement, and the inspiration given by some fabulous layouts here.

Also I suppose if you really enjoy something, you get better at it, and as well, I do take my time to make it look right..... I have a lot of time on my hands  :D ;) :D

Glad you like the station Chris.... thanks for your help to get it looking right  :thumbsup:

Pleased you liked the last pics. I took the tip from Roger at Wrenton and made up a separate moveable scenic board for them. I have a lot to learn to get my photos as good as his though  ;)

As you say John, they do make the layout look bigger though. Just for info, this is the actual size......

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-081117044323-578596.jpeg)

Back to fixing the track now  :worried:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:  :NGF:  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 26, 2018, 07:50:07 AM
Great modelling Kevin  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on March 30, 2018, 11:27:33 PM
Hi Kevin,

Hope your track repair is going well.

Just wondered if you could help me with roadside crash barriers. I like yours and can't remember the make so what are they please? But, more importantly, how bendy are they? I've built a zig zag road and one corner seriously needs some sort of barrier. However it's a very sharp curve, hence the question. Any help greatly appreciated.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 31, 2018, 01:20:43 AM

Hi Weave,

Things are a bit quiet on the modelling front at the moment, as Spring cleaning has been the main concern. That resulted in an accidental spillage, which meant the railway / spare room needed re carpeting  :-[ 

I was meaning to re do the floor in hard wearing carpet tiles anyway ::) ::)

These are my crash barriers, with one of those magic vehicles that drive themselves

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-310318005624-63606976.jpeg)

They are by Gaugemaster, and this is the link .....

http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=GM396&style=main&strType=&Mcode=Gaugemaster+GM396 (http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=GM396&style=main&strType=&Mcode=Gaugemaster+GM396)

I did not use the concrete posts, as they were too modern for me, but used small wooden ones instead.

For your use though, I really would not recommend them. I found them to be really brittle, and even putting a slight curve in them made them snap, so with the best will in the world I do not think they would suit a hair-pin bend. :no:

However Faller make a similar thing. I have not used them, so do not know how flexible they are, but the gaugemaster ones are really only good for straight runs.

These are the Faller barriers .....

http://www.osbornsmodels.com/faller-272452-n-scale-crash-barriers-16376-p.asp (http://www.osbornsmodels.com/faller-272452-n-scale-crash-barriers-16376-p.asp)

Like I say though, I have not used them.

Hope this is helpful

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on March 31, 2018, 08:54:02 AM
The barrier does look good. There's a couple of really sharp bends on my roads too.

I was wondering if heating the plastic up by dipping them in hot, rather than boiling, water for a moment or two  may get them to bend.

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on April 03, 2018, 03:56:07 PM
Hi all,

Sorry about the lack of updates, but have been really busy with "stuff" recently, but will update hopefully this weekend.

Just to let you know though, that the track replacement was a bit tricky to do, due to confined space, but went ahead OK, and the train (64xx and autocoach) runs fine.

Clearance through tunnels, round curves, along the station, past trees, by trackside fencing (in fact everywhere you can think of ;) ) is a bit tight, but that was to be expected, but all is well at "Windmill Hill"

 :claphappy: :claphappy:

All best wishes
Kevin

PS, "Stuff" includes drinking cider..... it's 3.40pm now, happy hour starts in 20 mins so off to the pub now

PPS, This is my favoured pub.... spent ages there waiting for a train home, even though it is only about 3mins walk from my house  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-030418155224-637821929.jpeg)

 :beers:



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on April 03, 2018, 04:40:18 PM
Bonjour, matelot :wave: ;D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on April 03, 2018, 05:30:53 PM
Nice pub. I do believe that in the dim and distant past I have enjoyed a pint or three in there.
Enjoy your cider.
Now we know why clearances on Windmill Hill are so tight. You obviously took inspiration from Weymouth Harbour tramway.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on April 08, 2018, 02:53:40 AM
 :hellosign:

Sorry there's not much to report layout wise, as other things have got in the way, and I am waiting for a few things to arrive, but here's how the track replacement went .....

With the back off, I could get my Dremmel with a cutting blade in to remove the wonky track at the points the curves start to straighten

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-080418015914-63974786.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-080418015944-63975117.jpeg)

Then "Hey Presto !" in went the new section without too much trauma .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-080418020042-639762013.jpeg)

And Yay..... the train runs perfectly  :claphappy: :laugh3: :claphappy:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-080418015752-63924737.jpeg)

Really happy with that, and thank you to all who gave helpful advice to make the job easier than I first thought it would be  :thumbsup:

While the back was off, and it was quite bright outside, I took the layout into my back yard to get a few pictures I would not be able to get with the backscene in place.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-080418023938-639881853.jpeg)

Looking at the photo, I think I will need to dirty up the straw in the cart.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-080418020433-6397761.jpeg)

I liked the pics, so had a go with a photo edit thing I have on my laptop to see how they looked in black and white

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-080418023947-639891872.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-080418023910-639871684.jpeg)

Sorry there's no trains in them  :-[

While messing around with the bus, which although you can't see, has got a driver and passengers in, I got thinking about people in vehicles, so had a go at adding drivers to some cars ......

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-080418020801-639842133.jpeg)

I will do a separate thread showing how I did it tomorrow.

Hope you are all well and happy  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on April 08, 2018, 08:03:58 AM
The close-ups have worked really well. So often they can show bits that can disappoint or embarrass! Agree the straw is just a wee bit too clean.

Like the idea of people in cars - so will be interested in your 'how to'.

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: joe cassidy on April 08, 2018, 08:16:29 AM
The straw will probably darken with time ?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on April 08, 2018, 09:52:29 AM
Straw, when fetched from the field, is clean, because the wheat is cut when it is dry wheather and then the soil is dry... and the straw remains clean. At least that's my experience with straw...
I would not mess to much with the straw.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on April 08, 2018, 10:46:14 AM
Really good Kevin. Iím in two minds about the straw. Maybe the camera is exaggerating the colour just a bit?
I really like the B&W photograph of the coach passing the windmill.
And.....pleased that the new track section  has bedded in well.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on April 08, 2018, 11:04:21 AM
I have informed Vladimir Putin that Boris Johnson is hiding in your cart and have been promised the Order of Lenin for being such a fink ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on April 08, 2018, 03:58:12 PM
Hi Guys  :)

Thank you for your comments re the straw in the cart..... I spluttered my coffee a bit when I read yours Mick  ;D

I think you are right Joe. It will darken a bit, and as Alexander says, it should not be too dirty. I may just make it a bit more "golden yellow" but not too much.

I am just getting some photos together for the "How to" on populating cars which I will post later on.

Edit ...... Here is the link to the tutorial for adding drivers to Oxford Diecast vehicles

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41053.msg502062#msg502062 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41053.msg502062#msg502062)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 08, 2018, 07:32:52 PM
Very glad that you were able to fix the track problems, Kevin.

Many thanks for the excellent photos.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on April 09, 2018, 07:42:00 AM
Good to see the track repaired and running well  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on April 16, 2018, 08:38:35 PM
 :hellosign:

Hope you all had a good weekend.

In an effort to do anything rather than fill the pond, I have been practicing photographing, concentrating on the yard area, as I like trains coming out of tunnels  :D

This was the set up, cheating a bit to make the layout look bigger  :-[ but hey ho !!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-160418200035-642522404.jpeg)

You may notice as well, that the figures move around a bit, as do the sheep and the tree in the meadow, so the photos are better composed. They also show off my huge fleet of locos  ::)  ::)  ::)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-160418200027-642511241.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-160418200154-642541917.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-160418200119-64253483.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-160418200301-642552264.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-160418200356-642562198.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-160418200411-642571197.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-160418200450-642581207.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-160418200511-642601052.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-160418200501-642592146.jpeg)

I do apologise if some of the photos are a bit similar to ones you may have seen before, but I hope you like them  :D

Next step is moving over to the other side .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-160418203344-64277278.jpeg)

The grass area will be a stable / riding school, and when that is done, and the level crossing finished, I can photograph the station.

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on April 16, 2018, 08:42:12 PM
This is just modelling at it's best, and great photos too.
We really do have some talented folks on this forum :admiration:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on April 16, 2018, 10:07:25 PM
Great stuff! :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: DaveGlew on April 17, 2018, 06:27:35 AM
Fabulous.......I think the figures are particularly good.... not just any old figures but people who look like they belong there.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on April 17, 2018, 07:13:59 AM
 :greatpicturessign: excellent set of scenes  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on April 17, 2018, 07:20:45 AM
Wot they all said!

And there's nothing wrong with putting a 'fake' bit of landscape in the front... quite legitimate photographic technique. Much better than photoshopping smoke onto the locos, for some reason I find that annoying. :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on April 17, 2018, 08:11:35 AM
Good to see more photos of zeindmill Hill.
As ever, tremendous modelling.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on April 30, 2018, 04:57:05 PM
 :hellosign:

Hi All,

Sorry there have been no updates here for a while, but unfortunately while trying to fix a niggly little problem, things on "Windmill Hill" went seriously boobies up, and I did more damage than good, which resulted in a bit of a catastrophy  :'(  :'(

I did the "walk away and come back fresher" thing, which does help, and busied myself in other things, like spring cleaning, and thinking about future projects .... which involved buying some awesome stock for when I get a "Grown Up" layout  :D

Then thanks to a layout thread here, I had a Eureka Moment   :idea:

Now all is well, things are running and looking better than before,

 :claphappy:  :D  :claphappy:  :D  :claphappy:

I have been photographing the repair process, and will update you on what happened over the next couple of days

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on April 30, 2018, 05:22:08 PM
Iím glad things were recoverable Kevin.
Looking forward to photographs of the repair process.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Caz on April 30, 2018, 08:50:34 PM
Well done Kevin, think we all have bad moments like that and despite the drive to sort it out immediately as you've found the best thing is to walk away and not make more of a problem.   Come back refreshed and all sorts of :idea: spring to mind and gets the problem sorted.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on April 30, 2018, 08:58:54 PM
Sorry to hear you had a bit of an 'Oops!' moment, Kevin.

But good to hear you are handling it so well. I look forward to seeing your new batch of photos. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on April 30, 2018, 09:03:55 PM
Hi Kevin,

Ditto to the glad it's sorted but dying to know what you did wrong (and how it was sorted).

Don't keep us in suspense for too long.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 30, 2018, 09:14:39 PM
Hi Kevin,

Ditto to the glad it's sorted but dying to know what you did wrong (and how it was sorted).

Don't keep us in suspense for too long.

Cheers weave  :beers:

My ditto to all that Weave has written.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on May 01, 2018, 07:15:12 AM
Spill the beans!

Not literally of course, you may already have done that  :confused2:

Looking forward to hearing the story.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on May 01, 2018, 07:22:24 AM
Superb pictures lately Kevin, really impressed by the sharpness you get at close up range, my camera struggles (or should I be honest and say I struggle) with super close ups

Look forward to your update on your trials and tribulations ... like outhers, you have piqued my interest!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on May 01, 2018, 10:22:32 PM
"Oops" is a well used part of my vocabulary apart from other well known words. Please don't keep us in suspense any longer. :photospleasesign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 02, 2018, 07:30:54 PM
Hi All,

Many thanks for all your comments ....I didn't realise there was that much interest ..... so here goes. This is what happened.

There was a niggly little problem when my little Terrier went round the top track anti-clockwise slowly. Clockwise was fine, I just had occasional derailments anti-clockwise, and they were getting more frequent, but only at slow speed, and in one particular spot.

I tried very carefully adjusting the track, but that made it even worse. >:( >:(

Then, in a fit of bravery (or stupidity) I ripped up the track, thinking well, it's only a simple oval ....can't be that difficult to re-lay it  :worried: :confused1: :worried:

Well it was  :veryangry:

Here the layout is with the track up, and cork bed painted grey .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518170730-648421358.jpeg)

After breaking pretty much every tree and fence  :'( a different strategy was needed, so up came the cork ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518170857-648631776.jpeg)

Here is where the forum came to my rescue  :NGF:

I have been following Zwilnik's fab Ivebridge layout, and he was my saviour  :thankyousign:

I remember him laying some z gauge flextrack by gluing it on a base, off site, and then laying the laid track on the layout This was the solution for me then  :)

First I made a template out of coloured  card. As it was a complete oval, the road bridge had to come up  :(

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518170918-64864543.jpeg)

Then I drew round that on a flat piece of cork ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518171203-648661164.jpeg)

On to the track. The oval is lust a bit longer than one piece of flextrack, so I joined and soldered two pieces together with feeders, and checked the Terrier ran over the join smoothly ( The solder is a bit blobby here, but that was cleaned up )

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518171113-648651518.jpeg)

Then started laying the track, with the feed at the back.....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518171307-648681249.jpeg)

The stick behind the loco is a spacer, to give clearance between the track and backscene. I checked with my fleet of wagons (all three of them  :D) that they would be ok going round by putting a bit of balsa against the spacer. All was well  :)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518171239-6486769.jpeg)

Then the rest of the oval was laid....very carefully.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518171528-648702405.jpeg)

When the track was down, I checked the running in both directions, at all speeds about a million times

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518171713-64871238.jpeg)

Any little adjustments were made with little slivers of wood till the running was perfect. All good so far  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518171504-648691825.jpeg)

Then I cut out the oval just inside the template lines, creating in effect, a custom made oval of setrack.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518171805-64872787.jpeg)

The track was then weathered, as I thought it would be easier off layout ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518171913-648731130.jpeg)

Then tested again a trillion times all directions, and all speeds. You can see here where I stopped the weathering at the back, as this track will not be seen as it is behind the rock.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518172049-648741250.jpeg)

The track was then glued in place, lined up at the back, and the track feeder wires fed through the board.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518172124-648751191.jpeg)

While the glue was setting, I tested the track again millions of trillions of times (I wanted NO problems occurring....at ANY stage )

At the front of the layout the girder bridge was a bit wonkey. It had to tilt back to give clearance for the wagons.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518172416-648771238.jpeg)

With the track in a slightly different position this could be remedied, so up came the bridge  :(

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518172354-648762178.jpeg)

All the gaps between the new track bed and existing landscape were filled in with DAS clay

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518172601-64878380.jpeg)

Then a new position for the bridge was found

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518172755-648791325.jpeg)

And it was straightened up

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518172803-64880155.jpeg)

Then you guessed it ..... Tested a zillion times  ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518173038-648822078.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518173004-648811744.jpeg)

Incidentally you can see in the background a previous oval of track glued on 2mm plastic sheet, which did not quite work out.

All is running fantastically now, so once again massive thanks to Zwilnik for the solution  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

If we get to meet up sometime the drinks are on me  :beers:

Just a bit of tidying up to do now. The DAS was painted over ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518173249-64884396.jpeg)

Then the main grass areas were masked off...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518173241-64883570.jpeg)

And Static grass applied .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518173503-64885195.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518173522-648862416.jpeg)

All seems to be blending in well. The guys in the pub have been following all the action with great interest     :claphappy: ....

This afternoon I did the final bit of the repair.... ballasted the track ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-020518173649-648871863.jpeg)

So that was the saga. Everything runs fantastically now. It was a tough job, but worth it. Now I just need to replace the trees, fences and hedges, add some scatter, daisies and buttercups and bushes and the layout will be back to normal.

And replace the road bridge and street lamp.

A bit of a long post, so thanks for bearing with me.

Off now to drink cider while the ballast dries  :laugh3:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:  :beers:









Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on May 02, 2018, 07:37:30 PM
Excellent!  :thumbsup:

Enjoy your well-deserved pint - or several.  :beers:

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on May 02, 2018, 08:25:11 PM
That must have been incredibly difficult to achieve. But achieve it you have and Iím glad that you are happy with the running.
Looking forward to seeing it all back to normal again.
Great perseverence and patience. Extremely well done.
One thing worries me...........just how much cider will be consumed whilst that ballast is drying ?  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on May 02, 2018, 08:29:09 PM
After all that remedial work you probably need several pints. Just don't go near the layout straight afterwards! :no:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 02, 2018, 08:30:46 PM
That must have been incredibly difficult to achieve. But achieve it you have and Iím glad that you are happy with the running.
Looking forward to seeing it all back to normal again.
Great perseverence and patience. Extremely well done.
One thing worries me...........just how much cider will be consumed whilst that ballast is drying ?  :beers:

I couldn't have put it better. Excellent work. Many congratulations. You've also given me an idea on how to replace any wonky track, in future. 8-)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on May 02, 2018, 08:31:22 PM
Absolutely fantastic!

Congratulations.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on May 02, 2018, 09:27:55 PM
I thought from the first photo that you were going to make it as a disused track bed. Wrong!! An interesting solution very well done. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on May 02, 2018, 09:31:05 PM
What a superb series of photographs chronicling a most successful replacement of your track. To many the prospect of starting to rip apart something that had taken so many diligent hours of construction would have driven them to despair, but you have risen most admirably to the challenge.

Impressive, to say the least! :thumbsup:

Well done Kevin. :beers:

P.S. - are you available for hire? :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on May 03, 2018, 07:31:38 AM
Great work Kevin. Good to hear that all is running well.

Is the ballast dry yet.......?  ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on May 03, 2018, 08:30:23 AM
A brilliant exposition! I admire e perseverance.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on May 03, 2018, 08:58:05 AM
Well done that man.

Great work deserving of many pints. A couple of N scale Strongbow arrows required on the layout somewhere methinks.

Happy running.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 03, 2018, 10:47:32 PM
 :hellosign:

 :D Hi all, and thank you for your interest and kind comments re. my layout "hiccup"  :D

It was a bit traumatic, but now things are running so well, and all the scenic elements are coming together nicely.  :thumbsup:

Today I fixed the girder bridge, made some trees, and patched the embankment on the signal box side with clump foliage. Before on the layout I only had one colour, but yesterday I got a couple of different shades of green which look better as now there is more variation in foliage colour on the layout.

I also added some scatter to the pub garden, creating some daisies and clover. Not too much, but just enough to be noticed.

No pics today as I need to charge up my camera battery, but will take some tomorrow lunchtime.

 :claphappy: Normal service is now resumed on "Windmill Hill"  :claphappy:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 04, 2018, 03:10:29 PM
 :hellosign:

So here are the trees. They are sea-foam, painted and flocked, but even after soaking them in glycerine and water they are still very brittle, so all the broken ones are having their trunks beefed up a bit.

First I superglued a pin with its head removed to the thin trunk. Then mixed some 2 part epoxy (I find the stuff from Wilco excellent) and smeared it up the trunk, encasing the pin, and over the lower branches. Then when painted up and flocked, Hey Presto, a super strong new tree  :thumbsup:  :D  :thumbsup:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-030518222052-64917769.jpeg)

Next onto the layout. The bridge was re-planted, and checked for clearances.....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-040518142253-649281668.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-040518142220-64924272.jpeg)

Some moss and a few daisies give a bit of texture to the pub lawn .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-040518142621-649312462.jpeg)

Today I will redo the hedge along the track, where the two train spotters were.

The fence where the Volkswagon is getting a bit of love and attention was replaced, along with clump foliage, and a new toughened up tree .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-040518142706-649321365.jpeg)

I also added some yellow flock to make the bushes into gorse bushes ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-040518142445-64930482.jpeg)

Here is a new tree in place .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-040518142422-64929339.jpeg)

PS. STOP LOOKING AT THAT NICE LADY'S BOTTOM  :D :no: :D

I also got some bull rushes for the lake when I ordered the foliage. At first I thought they may be a bit big, but I walked by a lake/bird sanctuary near where I live, and in real life they are pretty huge, and these will also have the lower half under water, so they should be fine  ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-040518142814-649331836.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on May 04, 2018, 03:15:18 PM
I was looking at your pictures and got to the fifth one and thinks to myself "Oh dear the camper van is out of focus". However, scrolling further down, I see you have rectified the problem!  ;D. Incidentally, the daisies look good on the pub lawn.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MARK1985 on May 04, 2018, 03:26:09 PM
those  :greatpicturessign: are my fix for the Day :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on May 04, 2018, 04:14:08 PM
Wonderful work and pics, Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on May 04, 2018, 05:12:10 PM
Lovely work and great picturs Kevin.
The daisies in the pub lawn are a nice touch - can I ask how you did those please?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on May 04, 2018, 05:20:21 PM
 :thankyousign:

I enjoyed that!

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 04, 2018, 05:52:34 PM
 :claphappy:   Yay, Windmill Hill is going again   :claphappy:

As things are rolling on well after my little "Oops" moment and the weather is getting nicer I must think more about getting better photographs. It is all a bit hit and miss at the moment, so I take about a million pics of the same scene in the hope one will turn out ok. ::)

I am finding that taking the layout outside does make for better photos though. We have a camera shop in town run by a real photographer, so I must pop down and see him for a better camera, and try some of that stacking that gives Roger at Wrenton such great photos.

Anyway, got to get it finished first  :D

All the very best
Kevin.

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on May 04, 2018, 06:14:00 PM
Great bit of restoration work Kevin, you would not know in the later pictures how much intrusive work you had to do to fix the running problem, testament to great skill.

Cheers,
Andrew
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on May 04, 2018, 07:47:26 PM
When you visit the camera shop... take the layout with you. And then discuss and try the cameras under the photographers guidance on nature and the layout.
Worst case you get some good shots... best case you find the right camera and tips for future shots
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on May 04, 2018, 07:53:46 PM
Re the latest crop of photos:

Unsure whether they should all be entered into a 'Model Layout of the Year' competition, or just one of them into the 'Model Rear of the Year' competition. :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on May 04, 2018, 08:01:48 PM
 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 04, 2018, 08:23:15 PM
Cheers Guys  :D

Thanks for  your reply Andrew, but it was more luck than skill that got it all together  ;)

Also thank you Alexander .... an idea I had not thought of was  taking the layout with me. Great thought as it is made to travel  :thumbsup:

I bought my last camera, a cheap and cheerful one from him, and I often meet him in the pub, so he is approachable, and very knowledgeable.

What should I do..... new camera..... railway stuff  :hmmm:

Have a good weekend all

Best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 05, 2018, 03:55:13 AM
Superb restoration and improvement work, Kevin. There is so much detail work to admire and inspire. The very useful mini tutorial on the trees is just one example. Another is the yellow gorse as well as the daisies. Simply superb. Did you make the pipes in the open wagon, too?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on May 05, 2018, 07:27:31 AM
Great work and photos Kevin  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 06, 2018, 06:42:49 PM

Thanks Chris and Keith ..... Things seem to be going fine now, so thank you and everyone else for your help and encouragement.  :thumbsup:

Today I have been working the camp fire cameo, and then on the windmill side, replacing some bushes and fences, then texturing the grass with a bit of scatter, and it all seems to be blending together well.

One little hiccup is I misplaced some of the people, so ordered replacements. Also I lost the apple tree that goes by the pig sty, so will make a new one.

What's the betting I will find them all as soon as I have got the replacements done  ;)

The pipe load you asked about Chris I did make. I made one from drinking straws first, but the scale looked too big, and the paint kept flaking off, so I ordered a mixed pack of tube / rod here .....

http://modelshop.co.uk/Shop/Item/Styrene-rod-tube-assorted-217/ITM3307 (http://modelshop.co.uk/Shop/Item/Styrene-rod-tube-assorted-217/ITM3307)

These guys are really good. They have a lot of stuff not always available from railway model shops.

Here is a comparison of the two loads .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-060518182009-64994190.jpeg)

Anyway, on with patching up the scenery, and making a new apple tree, and getting set for the next two "Big Jobs" ..... Replacing the road bridge and lamp and blending that all in, and then fixing the backscene.

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on May 06, 2018, 08:55:52 PM
Nice work Kevin,

The ones on the ground remind me of some damaged 48" concrete lined pipe sections that are used to keep pipelines submerged on things like river crossings and inshore pipelines .... so there is a prototype out there for your drinking straw variants too!

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on May 06, 2018, 09:30:17 PM
This is a super little layout. Always you'll find the originals as soon as the replacements arrive. :)
Can I make a suggestion? The pipes on the wagon are great but could be improved by drilling or reaming out the first couple of mm to give the effect of thinner walled pipes but maintaining the strength  of the tube.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 06, 2018, 09:47:19 PM
Cheers guys,

The pipe load of straws will go in the "will come in handy sometime" box then Andrew  :D

Thanks for that suggestion Mito..... I was trying to think what looked a bit off, and you got it  :thumbsup:

Photos are great for picking out the little details that need adjusting, and the pipes are not fixed in the wagon yet, so it should be easy to do

Will report back tomorrow  :D :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 06, 2018, 10:17:22 PM
Hi Mito,

Just tried your suggestion, and what a difference  :D

This pic is with just three done on the second end so you can see the difference

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-060518221240-65013465.jpeg)

 :NGaugersRule:  :thankyousign:  :NGaugersRule:

All best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on May 06, 2018, 10:56:08 PM
Much better :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 07, 2018, 06:15:37 PM
 :hellosign:

Hi all,

Just a quick update to let you know how things are going  :thumbsup:

Last night Mito saw a pipe load I had made, and suggested making the pipes a bit thinner, which I did, and they look far better now  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-070518165848-65022241.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-070518170033-65026351.jpeg)

A lovely thing about this forum is how freely people offer their help. A fresh pair of eyes can pick up on things we may miss. This pipe load may only be a small detail, but all these small details add up to create the atmosphere of your layout. Many thanks Mito  :thumbsup:

Also somewhere along the line I lost an apple tree, so made this new one. When it gets planted in position I will probably trim it to a better shape.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-070518165941-65025356.jpeg)

Last week I patched up the static grass, and now to add a bit more texture, I covered the track, then added some scatter, held in place with hairspray.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-070518170217-65028676.jpeg)

Here is the Windmill area with some detail added ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-070518170557-65030500.jpeg)

The bridge was then bedded in with some bushes, and I fixed the yellow and black warning stripes which I forgot about earlier  :-[ .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-070518170129-650272293.jpeg)

Just a couple more shots. I am really pleased how everything has come back together again  :D :D :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-070518170709-650311922.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-070518170749-65033568.jpeg)

Here is an overall view showing the track I replaced. Also showing where I had to take the bridge out. The bridge repair is my next job.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-070518170955-650351298.jpeg)

The Terrier runs really well round the new track, so I thought I would try a larger loco on the layout. I was very pleasantly surprised to find my new "Flying Scotsman" with a rake of 4 Pullman coaches also runs well, although some of the clearences are a bit tight  ::)  :D :D ::)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-070518170905-650341225.jpeg)

You can just see the end of the Brake Coach behind the pub. As soon as the "Scotsman" started running the whole pub came out on the lawn to watch  :D ;D :D ;D :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-070518171010-650361382.jpeg)

 :claphappy:  :claphappy:  :claphappy:  :claphappy:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:


Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on May 07, 2018, 06:36:53 PM
The pipes look really good!  Everything's coming on really well, althugh the bend looks very tight for Flying Scotsman to negotiate.  :worried:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on May 07, 2018, 06:55:31 PM
Lovely.
Thatís a real tail chaser with FS. Sheís nearly caught herself up!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 07, 2018, 07:26:59 PM
Many thanks for the photos. and explanations of the pipe loads. I will need to make some for my two "Pipe" wagons, like yours.

The layout is looking even better after all the remedial work.

I'm quite surprised (as much as the pubgoers) new "Flying Scotsman" with a rake of 4 Pullman coaches runs fine around the oval but I think 4 coaches is, probably, too many due to obvious tail-chasing! 8-)

How did you make the apple tree, in particular, the apples as those on my N Scale trees are rather over-size.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 07, 2018, 08:38:16 PM
Hi Chris,

Thank you for your comment. I also think the layout is now looking better than before, as since I first started, this forum and its members has taught me how to do things better, and I'm glad it shows. :D

I just can't wait now to get the backscene on, and then work on the lake  :D

Just a quick note to the loads. As Mito suggested, I only thinned less than 5mm of the pipe ends, and did this by sticking a scalpel blade in and spinning it round.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-070518200933-65056443.jpeg)

For the tree by the pigsty I wanted an apple tree so the two pigs (Pork Chop and Bacon Sandwich) could feast off the windfalls. They would be happy pigs if the windfalls have started to ferment !  This is an earlier photo with the tree I lost.....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-070518202301-650582434.jpeg)

The tree is sea-foam, with the trunk strengthened with a pin and epoxy, as I showed before, then foliage glued with spray adhesive, and fixed with hairspray.

The apples are tiny balls of DAS clay .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-070518200833-650531530.jpeg)

They are painted with acrylic paint and left to dry on kitchen paper .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-070518200847-650551793.jpeg)

They turn out to be all different sizes (like real apples  ;) ) so only the really tiny ones are used ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-070518200816-65038296.jpeg)

Hope this helps Chris

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on May 07, 2018, 09:36:43 PM
A touch of black on the insides of the pipes and they'll be perfect. Use a shade of black such as smoke or lamp black or a rusty colour. I'm really impressed with what you've done. Put another coach on and you'll have a real tail chaser! :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on May 08, 2018, 07:25:46 AM
You have obviously enjoyed and got a lot of satisfaction from the project.

So have we!  :thumbsup:

Many thanks for the detailed updates.

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 08, 2018, 08:24:22 AM
Many thanks, Kevin. Now, I have to wait until I can find somewhere to place an apple tree!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 10, 2018, 04:18:06 PM
 :hellosign:

First of all a confession  :uneasy: :-[

This is an overhead view of the "Flying Scotsman" Pullman visiting little old Windmill Hill ......

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-100518152133-65109211.jpeg)

I just wanted to see if I could get some photographs of my slowly growing collection of stock in a railway setting. Not really working though, so I think I will fix some flextrack down on a shelf and make a diorama to practice photographing my new trains. Perhaps a tunnel mouth at one end, and goods shed etc at the other.

The "Flying Scotsman" does run on Windmill Hill in my imagination though  :D :D

Other news ......

Here is the apple tree I made temporarily in situ .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-100518152300-651541473.jpeg)

The backscene is the old one just propped up, and there will be more vegetation around to blend the new backscene in so the tree won't look so lonely  ;)

Also these are the figures I lost  :(

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-100518152511-65157330.jpeg)

New replacements, which I like better, arrived today, so here they are in position by the new fence, in the new garden, looking over the new track  :D

You wouldn't believe the mess this area looked a while ago  ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-100518152416-6515653.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-100518152542-65158902.jpeg)

I just realised how slowly I am going at the moment. In the time it has taken to sort the problems out and replace this couple, she has had a baby, and Di and Martin have both built pretty complete layouts  :D :D :D

The photographer arrived as a set, so I thought about another one cycled up, hiding behind the sign and sneakily photographing the soaped up ladies washing their volkswagon.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-100518152254-6515420.jpeg)

Any thoughts ?

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 10, 2018, 04:22:49 PM
Excellent choice of figures and positions, Kevin. I agree, even better than the previous ones and the sneaky photographer behind the sign is an inspired decision!

Slow is good, in my opinion. Whenever I rush I make mistakes.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on May 10, 2018, 04:56:37 PM
I love thefigures Kevin.
All perfectly placed and making fne cameo scenes.
Itís something Iíd like to do on Tregonning.
Iím confused by picture one though. What is that coach doing?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on May 10, 2018, 05:26:43 PM
Looking good, which is probably what the 'sneaky photographer' is thinking. ;D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 10, 2018, 05:58:44 PM
Yes David, I think the photographer is enjoying the view.  ;)

Not fixed yet, but I do think I will leave him there  :)

I tried to see if I could get a photograph of a passenger train passing behind the pub Martin, but no such luck. I will have to make a diorama to photograph my new arrivals.

PS Sorry I did not get to the post box today as it has been raining pretty much all day today, so will post your scatter tomorrow  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on May 10, 2018, 08:39:18 PM
Excellent cameos, Kevin :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 10, 2018, 09:02:20 PM

Hi Again,

Another little cameo done  :thumbsup:

Just fixed the electrics to get the camp fire going again  :claphappy:

( This is the link to how I made the fire from an ASDA tea-light .....  http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39674.msg479077#msg479077 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39674.msg479077#msg479077)  )

Then the "Tramp Camp" was fixed back in place ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-100518204621-651661682.jpeg)

Over the other side of the tracks, their mate and his dog are on the way over to join them. He is a bit close to the track, so it's a good job his feet are glued down to stop him wandering in the path of an oncoming train  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-100518204640-65168626.jpeg)

Now this is done I can get cracking on the bridge, then get the new backscene fixed

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 18, 2018, 01:20:34 PM
Hi All,

Slowly getting things back together again  :thumbsup:

As you know I had to remove the bridge to re-lay the track on the upper level, and because it was well glued in, I could not save any of it. This poor fella is shouting  out "Where's my home !!!"......won't be long 'till you get a new one  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-180518123708-654541053.jpeg)

First off a new streetlight was wired in. The light was a bit too bright even with a resistor in, so a bit of yellow acrylic on the bulb did the trick ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-180518123435-654531422.jpeg)

Then I drilled a hole where the lamp was to go, tucked the excess wire in the bridge support, then fixed the wire that was needed to span the track with a dab of superglue each end. The front girder, cut from an old Peko bridge was then glued on

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-180518123231-654501188.jpeg)

Then the main span was made from wood veneer stuck on some plasticard. Although the bridge would not be pedestrian it seemed right to put some paving  to edge it.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-180518123338-654521262.jpeg)

Then the bridge span was fixed, a new little bit of road (sandpaper) fixed down, and the rocks etc patched up with DAS clay

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-180518123043-65448324.jpeg)

Next up were the railings. I wasn't too happy with how I did them before, so I ordered some new, different railings.

While waiting for them to arrive, I decided to sort out some other odds and sods. I am slowly gaining stock for a bigger layout. Locos I buy new, but I have a few rakes of coaches unboxed from Ebay. For them I got some storage boxes, and one for windmill hill.

Over the weekend then, I converted my wagons to NEM pockets and those little couplings, and fitted locos, wagons, controller and power pack all in the one box, which will fit in the lid of my layout case, held with elastic loops, so everything is self contained. :D  :thumbsup:  :D

I know it fits in the lid without crushing anything as I tried it, held with gaffer tape, so am off to buy some 1" wide elastic later this afternoon.

Here is the storage box set-up.....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-180518123044-65448113.jpeg)

On monday the railings arrived, a light bar to fit in the autocoach, and a few other bits, so here is the new bridge landscaped in ......

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-180518122855-65446280.jpeg)

Next job.....on the layout anyway is the backscene.

Hope you are all well......have a good weekend  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on May 18, 2018, 01:41:43 PM
Looking good Kevin and I like your arrangement for fitting things in the lid.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 18, 2018, 01:50:36 PM
Cheers David,

I was just going to have the controller in, fixed by Velcro like this ......

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-301217150115-598891606.jpeg)

But when the boxes arrived, I found it would all fit  :D

All the best
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 18, 2018, 01:53:17 PM
An excellent replacement, Kevin, even better than the original.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 18, 2018, 02:00:06 PM
Thanks Chris,

It is almost a blessing the track went bonkers as everything I replace I do with extra knowledge I have learnt here since first time round  :D

All the best
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on May 18, 2018, 02:01:17 PM
The detailing on such a small layout just astonishes me with every pic, Kevin. Stunning work.


([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-180518123708-654541053.jpeg[/url])



I've never seen a DSLR used on a selfie stick before :goggleeyes: :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on May 18, 2018, 04:12:07 PM
Brilliant work Kevin, as ever. And very ingenious.
As for selfie sticks.......I use an iphone for my photos and, especially on Tregonning, getting the phone into awkward places to take photos is very difficult.
A selfie stick could be just the answer.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 18, 2018, 04:38:34 PM
Hi Martin,

Yes, two main problems on a little layout is vacuuming it, and photographing it  ;)

I don't have a camera on my phone, I use a very basic point and click camera, and work on the principal if I take enough shots, one is bound to come out OK  :D

I'm not sure what Mick meant about a selfie stick, but one tip I got from here is if you can't get the camera in, take the pic from a distance, then crop it.

That is what I did with the tramp under the bridge. This is the actual photo I took it from .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-180518162813-6545534.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:  Have a great weekend   :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on May 18, 2018, 04:47:26 PM
Thanks Kevin.
I think Mick meant that if you look very carefully at the tramp under the bridge, he appears to be holding a camera on a selfie stick. You may have to expand the picture a bit to see it!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 18, 2018, 04:50:49 PM

Ha,  Must be a bit dim this afternoon  :-[

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on May 18, 2018, 04:58:47 PM
 :claphappy: Absolutely fantastic layout and pictures.  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 20, 2018, 01:40:00 PM
 :hellosign:

Hope your weekend is going well  :beers:

Thank you for your comment Alexander, and thanks for all your encouragement from Switzerland  :thumbsup:

I now have the backscene in place, and am so pleased I took the trouble to curve the corners. One of my pet hates is "clouds with corners" It does not take much to incorporate a curve in even the tightest space, and really does make a difference.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-200518130027-655401633.jpeg)

Taking a tip from Mick (thank you) I bought some plastic channel to protect and finish the top edge.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-200518125933-655391497.jpeg)

I also now have the front facia. The switches will work 1. The windmill sails  2. The upper level lights  3. The Station lights  and 4. The Signal box lights. Now I know what does what I have some vinyl lettering to add to finish it off.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-200518125706-655381201.jpeg)

Today I am blending the ground into the backscene, which is working out OK so far.  :D I am just on the first layer. When trees are added it should all come together nicely ...... fingers crossed  ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-200518125025-655291686.jpeg)

The new bridge I am very happy with.  :claphappy:

This is the old one .......

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/5755-100118162754-60413873.jpeg)

Out with the old, and in with the new  :D ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-200518125200-655361672.jpeg)

I think this looks far better, and when the trees are in to make the lamp post less obtrusive, and hide the fact the road goes straight into the backscene it should look fine. You may have spotted I changed the colour of the bushes to purple. I have yellow along the embankment, and yellow on the rocks (sounds like a new drink  :) ) as well seemed too much .

When the "top shelf" is done this will be the next area to sort ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-200518125232-655372272.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on May 20, 2018, 02:12:10 PM
Hi Kevin,

All looks fantastic, again.

Feeling inspired, jealous, worried (for mine) all at the same time.

Great stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS. Yellow on the rocks  :hmmm: Can only think of advocaat  :no:. Agricultural Champagne every time!

EDIT Forgot about pineapple juice  :doh: Still, forget the pine bit!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on May 20, 2018, 02:40:13 PM
Awesome, Kevin.
You have blended everything in so well the top photo looks as if the backscene is actually glass reflecting everything within. Yours is another layout which, to my mind, deserves to be seen beyond the forum so I would really suggest you get in touch with Grahame Hedges - editor of the NGS Journal as he's always asking for articles and this would be right up his strasse.
And to quote the great Kenny Everett, I mean that in the best possible taste! :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on May 20, 2018, 03:59:21 PM
I would go even further and suggest Steve Flint of the Railway Modeller. Your layout will slot right in there, too.

Sayonara!  :thumbsup:

(In Japan  at moment and slipping into local lingo, sorry!)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on May 20, 2018, 04:36:20 PM
Lovely Kevin.
You are blending that backscene in extremely well.
I take your point about clouds with corners! Those curves work well.
I must hold my hand up, Tregonning has square corners. iím not sure that I can get round that easily but Iíll have a think.
And yes, I agree with NPN and Bealman- your layout deserves a wider audience.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on May 20, 2018, 05:13:24 PM
Superlatives yet again insufficient Kevin. :thumbsup:

Excellent workmanship that, I agree, should be in the major model railway publications.

 :admiration: :admiration: :admiration:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on May 20, 2018, 05:20:57 PM
I have to agree with the others about showing the layout to a wider audience Kevin. Some good modelling with excellent cameos.  (Or should that be excellent modelling with good cameos - can't have two excellent in one sentence!) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on May 20, 2018, 09:21:11 PM
(Or should that be excellent modelling with good cameos - can't have two excellent in one sentence!)

You just did, separated only by a hyphen :telloff: :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on May 20, 2018, 09:36:43 PM
I have to agree with the others about showing the layout to a wider audience Kevin. Some good modelling with excellent cameos.  (Or should that be excellent modelling with good cameos - can't have two excellent in one sentence!) :thumbsup:

Use magnificient and excellent...
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on May 20, 2018, 10:00:33 PM
(Or should that be excellent modelling with good cameos - can't have two excellent in one sentence!)

You just did, separated only by a hyphen :telloff: :D

 :P Wondered who would spot the word excellent in that excellent sentence.  :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 20, 2018, 10:19:02 PM
The new road bridge over the railway is a great improvement on the previous one, far more realistic. The end results of all that hard work are turning an excellent little layout into a superb small layout. I can't wait to see the next area you're going to complete. The new backscene is highly realistic and reminds me that mine will also have to have curved corners.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 21, 2018, 08:56:33 PM
Hi all,

Wow ! I am very flattered that you think "Windmill Hill" should be in some of the railway publications  :D  :D  :D

As it is nearing completion, I may well get in touch :thumbsup:

No modelling for a while as I have friends staying for a couple of days, so the agricultural champagne will be consumed in large amounts. As Weave knows, it is only apple juice, and you need your five portions a day  :D

 :beers:  :laugh3:  :beers:

All best wishes
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on May 21, 2018, 09:04:00 PM
Hi all,

Wow ! I am very flattered that you think "Windmill Hill" should be in some of the railway publications  :D  :D  :D

As it is nearing completion, I may well get in touch :thumbsup:

No modelling for a while as I have friends staying for a couple of days, so the agricultural champagne will be consumed in large amounts. As Weave knows, it is only apple juice, and you need your five portions a day  :D

 :beers:  :laugh3:  :beers:

All best wishes
Kevin
Enjoy time with your visitors Kevin.
Looks like the weather is set fair.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on May 21, 2018, 09:04:17 PM
Have a fun time and enjoy that healthy diet!

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 25, 2018, 08:30:53 PM
 :hellosign:

Hope everyone is well, and having the same awesome weather as we are having down here in Dorset. I have had friends staying for a few days, and it was lovely to catch up over a few ciders in the sun.

One outcome of having friends stay is the railway room gets sorted. out  :worried:  This can only be a good thing though as the room was back to it's proper use this morning, and never been so tidy  :D

Just look at this  :o  :goggleeyes:  :o

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-250518200407-656501103.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-250518200445-656572468.jpeg)

I'm almost frightened to upset anything there now  ::)

Will keep you posted with any layout progress, and hope you all have a good weekend  :D

with all best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on May 25, 2018, 09:18:14 PM
Well you've done it now.

It doesn't matter how many spot lights you have my friend, you will never find anything again!

You know it's there somewhere but  :no:. Tidying up should be against the law!!!

Have a great bank holiday weekend.

CHEERS weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on May 25, 2018, 11:24:51 PM
What bothers me is the amount of Avon stuff you have. :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 25, 2018, 11:43:36 PM
 :helpneededsign:

You're right, I've been and gone and done it now  :worried:

There's so much more space to loose stuff in it is going to be a nightmare  ;)  :D  ;)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:  :beers:

(Avon rules Mito  :) ..... My friend Jenny works for the company, and the boxes are fab for storing stuff ....now if only Avon did cider ! )
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on May 26, 2018, 06:23:39 AM
What bothers me is the amount of Avon stuff you have. :D
In that part of the world, they're probably boxes of motorcycle tyres  :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on May 26, 2018, 07:12:28 AM
 :o :goggleeyes: :o :goggleeyes:

I'm sorry ;) , but being so tidy is expressly against the rules of the Man Cave Society.

Please return to normal organised chaos at the earliest opportunity before you find you have been relegated to the attic!

 :D

Have a great weekend Kevin. :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on May 26, 2018, 07:39:58 AM
:o :goggleeyes: :o :goggleeyes:

I'm sorry ;) , but being so tidy is expressly against the rules of the Man Cave Society.

Please return to normal organised chaos at the earliest opportunity before you find you have been relegated to the attic!

 :D

Have a great weekend Kevin. :beers:

Totally agree!

It's simply not normal to be so tidy!

Glad you've had some sun. We also have friends staying but it hammered down all of yesterday so unable to go exploring. We were forced to go to the pub. :D

Hope the sun comes out for all of us at some point over the weekend.

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on May 26, 2018, 07:43:22 AM
What bothers me is the amount of Avon stuff you have. :D
What about all those takeaway boxes stacked up there?  :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on May 26, 2018, 08:50:53 AM

Thank you for your comment Alexander, and thanks for all your encouragement from Switzerland  :thumbsup:

I now have the backscene in place, and am so pleased I took the trouble to curve the corners. One of my pet hates is "clouds with corners" It does not take much to incorporate a curve in even the tightest space, and really does make a difference.

You are welcome... and a great inspiration forsomeo who has not got allotted a big space from his SWMBO...

Whenever I look at such micro layouts in this forum and compare them to those megagalactic german layouts with their hundreds or thousands of squarefeets... I get the impression that realizing something cute in a confined space is more of an achievement. Maybe some of these nice layouts should be featured in a german modeller magazine to teach the continetals some lesson...
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on May 26, 2018, 10:13:58 AM
American basement walk around peninsula type layouts are equally daunting, but they're great!

However, to say something I've already said,  I'd love to see Windmill Hill in RM.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris Morris on May 26, 2018, 11:04:53 AM
The great thing about N gauge is that you can make something cute and interesting in a small space and you can also make something awesome in a large space!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on May 26, 2018, 11:26:56 AM
Top comment. Agree completely.... I've often made the remark here that OO/HO models look like plastic toys.

That feeling is reinforced when I see N next to OO/HO at exhibitions.

However, to stay on track here, your sentiments echo mine, Chris.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on May 26, 2018, 11:39:50 AM
Hi Chris. I think Kevin has achieved both. The two girls washing the van are very cute and the lady sitting outside the pub, well, what can I say....awesome!  :D

Sorry. I won't get my coat as that sounds even worse.

Cheers weave (former member?  :worried:)  :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on May 26, 2018, 11:57:22 AM
Bealman might be in Japan but he's watching  ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 26, 2018, 12:16:06 PM
 :sorrysign:

So Sorry for letting the room get so tidy ..... I promise it will get back to its normal level of chaos as soon as possible  :thumbsup:

I've been doing some stuff in there this morning, as I think we have got your rain today Dave, and it feels really strange being so uncluttered  :worried:

Thanks again Alexander, and also Chris ..... I have been called many things, but cute and interesting never ...... Ooops ...... you mean the layout, not me  :D  :-[  :D

Back to creating Clutter

All best wishes,
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 26, 2018, 04:36:12 PM
 :hellosign:

Hi All,

This morning I took advantage of a clear floor space to make a new backscene.

I had a duplicate of the one on the layout, and I tore the sky off (to give a softer edge) then cut along the bottom so it would fit against the rocks and bushes on the layout.

Then I glued it to a 15" ID Backscenes sky .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-260518150554-65662334.jpeg)

Then I trimmed the bottom of the sky sheet to the same profile as the scenery

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-260518150934-657201355.jpeg)

Then after careful measuring and checking positions I glued some wooden clothes pegs to the back of the scene.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-260518151052-65722401.jpeg)

This meant I could clip the new backscene onto the existing backboard on the layout

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-260518150957-65721349.jpeg)

And Yay  :claphappy: look what I got ......

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-260518150745-65719901.jpeg)

As long as I am careful with creases, and shadows, this gives me an easily fixed temporary backscene for photographs so I can take wider views without worrying about backscene edges being seen.  :D  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-260518150726-657181820.jpeg)

Yes, Job well done  :thumbsup:  :D  :thumbsup:

Now to spend a relaxing afternoon making sea-foam trees  :)

Hope you all have a great Bank Holiday

All kind regards

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on May 26, 2018, 04:55:45 PM
A very neat 'cut 'n' shut' job, Kevin :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on May 26, 2018, 08:27:06 PM
An excellent idea and as the rest of the layout, very well done. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: GreyWolf on May 27, 2018, 10:01:16 AM
Ah HA! So THAT's how it's done  :thankyousign:

Great pics and fantastic layout!

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 27, 2018, 11:31:54 AM
Morning All,

While making some trees, which I find very relaxing, I thought I would put up a few photos of some new stuff.

When the backscene was off and I was repairing the track, I took this pic of the back road and bus, as this is a shot I would never get now ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-270518110757-65746734.jpeg)

Here is the bus shot from the viewing side. I am pleased how the backscene is blending in to the layout.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-270518110814-657531770.jpeg)

Here are the new trainspotters. Nicer figures (from prieser) than the old ones, though I suspect they are not real trainspotters, they are just using that as an excuse to go to the pub  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-270518110838-65754627.jpeg)

And the signal box ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-270518110846-65755529.jpeg)

It's a bit dull out today, so I will work on the new bridge area, and hope to get some more photos up later.

Have a good day  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on May 27, 2018, 11:40:27 AM
Lovely photos Kevin.
I hope the ďtrainspotterĒ manages to get a good shot and that his hand isnít too shaky.
I love the detail in the 2nd picture especially.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: GreyWolf on May 27, 2018, 01:12:58 PM
Morning All,

... thought I would put up a few photos of some new stuff.
Here is the bus shot from the viewing side. I am pleased how the back scene is blending into the layout.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-270518110814-657531770.jpeg[/url])

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:


Such superb details ... love how you just see the bus ... and all the excellent 'stuff' in garden - like its real!
Thanks so much for showing what is possible.

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 27, 2018, 03:11:06 PM
Hello Again  :wave:

Tree making is going well.... This is one I have just finished. I am being careful to avoid the lollipop look that some trees have

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-270518144942-65764214.jpeg)

For those who have missed them, here are the Windmill Girls ..... not to be confused with the Chelsea Girls who visit railways further West  ;)  The photographer (who arrived in the same Prieser pack as the trainspotter) is getting a sneaky photo in. Come on ..... own up .....which one of you is it  ;D  ;D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-270518145024-6577157.jpeg)

And here are a couple of the new bridge ..... so much better than the old one :)  I'm still not 100% finished with how it fits into the backscene, there are just a few little tweaks to be made, but it is pretty much there.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-270518145126-657722366.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-270518145145-657732320.jpeg)

Wishing you all well

Kind regards
Kevin

 :beers:

Quick edit ....... Just realised there may be some gentlemen here of an age when "Windmill Girls" were not quite the same as these Windmill Girls washing their van in the sun !!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: RailGooner on May 27, 2018, 03:57:16 PM
..
Tree making is going well.... This is one I have just finished. I am being careful to avoid the lollipop look that some trees have

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-270518144942-65764214.jpeg[/url])
Ö


As good as anything seen at Chelsea this past week. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 :greatpicturessign: :wonderfulmodelling:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on May 27, 2018, 04:02:11 PM
Well, after my earlier post, I have contacted my lawyers, Shaggy, Shaggy and Shaggy and have been told to say 'it wasn't me'.

Great pics and lovely modelling Kevin. I'm still practising but hope to get there one day.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS. You aint see me right  ;)





Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on May 27, 2018, 04:39:24 PM
Quote
Quick edit ....... Just realised there may be some gentlemen here of an age when "Windmill Girls" were not quite the same as these Windmill Girls washing their van in the sun !!

These girls could be one and the same, for as we all know, the originals in the London theatre had to stand stock still, just as yours are doing, a la tableau vivant. :D :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on May 27, 2018, 05:04:54 PM
Well, after my earlier post, I have contacted my lawyers, Shaggy, Shaggy and Shaggy and have been told to say 'it wasn't me'.

PS. You aint see me right  ;)

You were my prime suspect, Weave, but my solicitors (Graball and Givenowt) have also instructed me to deny any knowledge of photography and just answer 'No comment' to any questions :uneasy:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on May 27, 2018, 07:07:39 PM
Well, after my earlier post, I have contacted my lawyers, Shaggy, Shaggy and Shaggy and have been told to say 'it wasn't me'.

Great pics and lovely modelling Kevin. I'm still practising but hope to get there one day.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS. You aint see me right  ;)
DI Catchemall is on his way right now.
Iíd make a run for it.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 27, 2018, 07:13:22 PM
 :wave:  :hellosign:  :wave:

Hi Mike, you're right, They were all stood still so there is a similarity, and I believe you Weave, 'cos you're with me in the pub with our ciders  :beers:

Things seem to be going well..... here are a few more photos  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-270518185053-65774513.jpeg)

The boathouse is looking OK, but I am still a bit nervous about the water. I will leave that till last as I will practice in a few scrap containers. Also I don't want to scratch the top of the water while working on other things, and as well, the indent for the pond is a great "safe place" for putting little bits I don't want to loose in  :thumbsup:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-270518185232-657761446.jpeg)

Here is a closer shot of the road. The deer are just tacky waxed down. I'm not sure about keeping them in yet ..... does anyone have any thoughts ?

Taking votes for leaving them free, or venison steaks next weekend  :confused1:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-270518185200-657752451.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on May 27, 2018, 07:18:57 PM
To my eye, those deer donít quite fit the bill.
Itís not the deer but the location doesnít seem quite right to me.

Iím glad that Weave now has an alibi.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 27, 2018, 07:33:16 PM
Cheers Martin,

I know what you mean about the location.

I took inspiration for them being "on the rocks" from the Monarch of the Glen .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-270518192503-657771516.jpeg)

Which I must admit I would recognise more from the side of a Whiskey bottle than from an art gallery  :D  :-[  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on May 27, 2018, 08:20:24 PM
Thank you Martin.

Kevin, I agree with him about the deer.

Bit too much for the location,  but then again you know that already, I just told you, do want any crisps by the way?

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on May 27, 2018, 08:38:58 PM
This layout just gets superer  and superer! I like the deer there but a little more hidden if possible.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on May 27, 2018, 08:41:33 PM
Great pair of flares on the bloke next to the boat :goggleeyes:
I thought I was trendy in the late 60s with 32" loons (and I don't mean waist or inside leg) but I couldn't have competed with those :no:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on May 28, 2018, 12:35:02 AM
After having my fair share of deer on my current Japanese adventure - there are places where they are wild and roam freely among tourists and locals - I'm not a great fan.

One snuck up behind me and took me lunch sandwich off me while I was eating it, and another spilt me beer  :censored:

So I'm quite happy to endorse the above posts about the deer  ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on May 28, 2018, 06:34:24 AM
Walking through Richmond park in the rutting season can be very unnerving.  If you get close to a red dear stag guarding his hinds he can appear very threatening!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on May 28, 2018, 07:46:46 AM
My vote is for venison burgers too. Had a close encounter with one in the forest recently when driving back from grandchildren sitting  :veryangry:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 28, 2018, 09:39:51 AM
I like the stag and the hind where they are but I'd move them back behind the bushes (or, probably better, add low bushes in front of them to half hide them). They are yet another attractive scenic feature for people to enjoy.

I also have some deer to place and a similar problem of where and how to place them.

The "Chelsea Girls" will definitely be visiting the pub. Cant Cove's stationmaster is, however, struggling to find the station so he can sell them train tickets and work out the train times for them! As the station seems a long way from Cornwall, the girls are wondering if the "Swan" pub does bed and breakfast? Hudson's Ales does not seem to be listed in The Society for The Preservation of Beers from the Wood (founded 1963) guide.

It appears that the mystery photographer snatching photos. of the two young ladies cleaning their VW microbus may well be Sylvia Trevelver's 'black sheep' brother, Gerald.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 28, 2018, 01:57:37 PM
Hi All,

Thank you for all your replies. It seems a few have had some bad experiences with deer  :worried:

I would like them on the layout somewhere, so will try Mito and Chris's idea of making them less conspicuous. If that does not work it's Bambi Burgers and Roast Rib of Rudolph on the menu at "The Swan"  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on May 28, 2018, 02:02:20 PM
My vote is for venison burgers too. Had a close encounter with one in the forest recently when driving back from grandchildren sitting  :veryangry:

 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on May 28, 2018, 02:35:47 PM
I'd like to throttle the one that spilt me beer.... it went all over me DSLR!!!  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: javlinfaw7 on May 28, 2018, 05:12:13 PM
Thats one reason I went for a Pentax, they are beer resistant
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 28, 2018, 09:42:17 PM
Hi All,

Just finished getting the new bridge landscaped in. You can see the tramp coming over to join his mates on the other side of the track to get the bonfire going for roast venison ...... unless the deer can find some bushes to hide behind  ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-280518213359-65810577.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Caz on May 29, 2018, 08:23:07 PM
Hi All,

Just finished getting the new bridge landscaped in. You can see the tramp coming over to join his mates on the other side of the track to get the bonfire going for roast venison ...... unless the deer can find some bushes to hide behind  ;)

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-280518213359-65810577.jpeg[/url])

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:


I thought he was taking a selfie!   :-X
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 29, 2018, 09:20:33 PM
Hi Caz,

That's something Mick (Newport Nobby) thought .... That's the thing with you young people, not a selfie stick, but all his belongings  ;)

Also thank you for your following in and out of my little layout. Although the automated working on your layouts is not my cup of tea (or glass of cider  :D) when the bigger layout gets going visually, what you have done will certainly be an inspiration  :thumbsup:  :D  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 30, 2018, 10:15:44 PM
 :hellosign:

Today I have been cautiously attacking the upper level with my vacuum cleaner, (a task so fraught with danger it really makes me nervous  :worried: ) and making sure everything is looking and running good, it took ages, but luckily all is well  :D

Then I moved down to the tunnel mouth / stable area. I patched in the backscene behind the stables, added some clump foliage to the tunnel side, merging in with some fencing to the stable, and put in the trackside hedge.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-300518211700-658491398.jpeg)

This "first layer" scenery seems to sit well, and my Autocoach, with all its sticky out bits runs fine without catching on any of the hedge

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-300518211831-658692092.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-300518211939-65870595.jpeg)

And here are a few shots looking over the hedge to the station .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-300518211806-658682162.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-300518211750-658672496.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-300518215254-65874125.jpeg)

Tomorrow some scatter, trees, bushes etc should go down, I must find a way to make the join in the backscene less visible, and fix the host of things close up photography shows up  ;)

Wishing you all well
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on May 30, 2018, 10:34:44 PM
 :greatpicturessign: :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on May 31, 2018, 07:13:31 AM
Always pleasing to add a few more bits to the already great looking scenery.

You may want to pop the windmill sails back on now you've done that risky vac'ing!  ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on May 31, 2018, 07:25:03 AM
Looking fantastic Kevin. Pleased to hear that nobody had an unexpected trip in the vacuum.  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on May 31, 2018, 03:05:40 PM
Hi All,

Luckily no one disappeared up the tube Keith, and now all is finished round the windmill area (I glued the bus down just now) Dave's suggestion seems just right. :thumbsup:

A work force was quickly assembled ......

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-310518144859-658922162.jpeg)

And now the sails are back in place ...trouble is I can't show you as I don't seem able to post any more photos  :worried:  :(  :worried:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on May 31, 2018, 03:34:41 PM
Hi Kevin,

All looks great as usual.

Not sure if same problem but sometimes, I post directly from 'my pictures' Windows 7, it won't re direct it and then 20 mins to an hour later it will. I hate computers.

Hope you sort the problem and looking forward to the pics.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 01, 2018, 06:26:15 PM
Trying again to post the windmill picture .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-010618182236-659011311.jpeg)

Yay ...... seems to be fixed  :thankyousign:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 01, 2018, 08:10:04 PM
Excellent to see the windmill's sails back, Kevin, and all the other scenic work done to return the layout to an even better state than before.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 01, 2018, 08:50:56 PM
Thanks Chris,

What's the betting I break them off before the weekend is over  :worried:  :D  :worried:

Working on the next layer of scenery round the stable now. I was going to have a small Gymkhana type scene with small jumps, but even two horses fills the paddock up so will leave that. ;)

all best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on June 02, 2018, 06:46:54 AM
You're probably right in not over-filling the layout.

It's great to see all the detail but it can be a fine line between looking brilliant and overdoing things.

Good to see there can be wind in your sails again!

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on June 02, 2018, 06:54:23 AM
Glad you got the photo problem sorted, now I'm home from my wanderings in the Land of the Rising Sun, I can have my regular Windmill Hill fixes!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 02, 2018, 07:00:18 AM
You're probably right in not over-filling the layout.

It's great to see all the detail but it can be a fine line between looking brilliant and overdoing things.

Dave G

Seconded! It's a difficult balance to achieve but Windmill Hill shows exactly how to do it really well.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 02, 2018, 03:19:58 PM
 :hellosign:

Hope you are all well  :)

Not much going on this weekend on the layout, as we have our folk festival here, so just a couple of progress photos.

First off the tunnel mouth .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-020618151213-659401243.jpeg)

And here is the stable building, a laser cut wooden kit from Ancorton models ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-020618151251-65960368.jpeg)

Gotta go now, I can hear the cider calling  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on June 02, 2018, 04:57:25 PM
Do you have a huge stock of figures, Kevin?
You always seem to have the right ones on hand :envy:
Great pics as always.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 02, 2018, 11:40:46 PM
Hi Mick :wave:

I do take care with the figures I use, and thank you for noticing that  :)

I generally have an idea of the scene I want to create, and then look on Gaugemasters website at their range of figures as they have a huge selection available, all grouped in one place. Then I try to find the figures I think would look right for what I want .....and generally buy them cheaper somewhere else  ::)

Once I have the figures, I tackywax them in place, and leave them for sometimes a week until I am sure they are right, often just slightly altering the position until I am happy.

Then I superglue them down so they don't visit the inside of my hoover bag  ;)

The only ones I have excess of are the track workers ( helping with the windmill sail) as I thought I could incorporate a trackside scene, but there was no room. I am trying to create a busy layout, but not overcrowd it. As Dave said (and thank you Chris for your kind comment) there is a fine line between looking good and looking overcrowded, and I am trying not to step over it  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: rogerdB on June 03, 2018, 08:24:30 PM
Then I superglue them down so they don't visit the inside of my hoover bag

I put a small piece of material over the vacuum cleaner hose and then force the nozzle over it. Old tights are ideal. Any loose figures are then safely caught in the net!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on June 03, 2018, 08:33:55 PM
Then I superglue them down so they don't visit the inside of my hoover bag

I put a small piece of material over the vacuum cleaner hose and then force the nozzle over it. Old tights are ideal.

No. I'm definitely not going there :no: :worried:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: joe cassidy on June 03, 2018, 08:39:39 PM
Mick, when you buy the tights don't forget the make up removal pads for renumbering your locos.

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on June 03, 2018, 09:28:04 PM
Old tights are ideal.

That's where I am going wrong - nobody told me you had to use old tights! No wonder SWMBO looked at me funny when she saw me taking a new pair of her tights out of the box the other day.   ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on June 04, 2018, 02:46:12 PM
Lovely photos as ever Kevin.
Iím trying to be as careful as you in placing figures on Tregonning but not sure that I quite have your flair for it.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 08, 2018, 09:34:13 PM
Hi All  :D

I managed to get the stables sorted to a state I am happy with, so the people and horses are now permanently fixed down so I don't have to worry any more about loosing them  ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-080618205121-662081641.jpeg)

Then it was on to the unseen stuff ...... the electrix. It took me longer than expected, as before starting I had to wait for an order of sticky backed cable clips. I have never used them before, but they are fantastic for keeping the wires in the right place, and i what I call neat, though not nearly as neat as some wiring I have seen  :-[

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-080618204625-661962247.jpeg)

There looks to be loads of wires, but I think it is just that it is all in one tiny space rather than spread out more. Anyway it got covered by the base plate, which has an access panel for the batteries that power the lights and windmill sails.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/5755-221217012521-595972042.jpeg)

The layout ON/OFF switch is on a panel round the side, with the socket to charge the battery. The panel is spray painted 1mm plasticard, and I covered the outside of the layout with wood grain fablon, which looks AWESOME  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-080618204838-662051116.jpeg)

I am also really pleased with the front panel, made from 2mm plastic (the same as the backscene) The letteing is self adhesive vinyl.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-080618204733-66204740.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-080618204854-662062079.jpeg)

You can see here how effective the mirror under the "Firestone" bridge is

All was looking good and went without a hitch ......till I switched it on  :doh:  :-[  :doh:

The yard light blew, as I forgot to put a resistor in with it  :dunce:

However it was easy to replace, but I had to order it so sorry it delayed this update getting to you. Here is the replacement, and you can't tell the difference, although I did move the position just ever so slightly to give a bit more clearance for the coach.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-080618205111-66207912.jpeg)

Hope you enjoy the photos. Over the weekend I will see if I can get some early evening pictures with the lights on.

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: RailGooner on June 08, 2018, 10:31:09 PM
Beautiful. :thumbsup:

 :admiration: It's ridiculous how much very well modelled detail you've coaxed into such a small space Kevin. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on June 08, 2018, 10:38:00 PM
Excellent, just excellent.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: The Q on June 08, 2018, 10:43:48 PM
Beautifully modelled and built. I must admit I'm not a fan of those stick on cable holders they always come unstuck for me...
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on June 08, 2018, 10:58:46 PM
Absolutely great :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 08, 2018, 11:01:26 PM
 :thankyousign:

Thanks guys, I have tried to get as much detail as I can in, without it looking cluttered  ;)

Also, thanks for the heads up about the cable clips ....I have not used them before, so maybe was a "bit previous" in praising them  :-[

I bet when I next need to open the bottom of the layout they will all shower out on the floor  :worried:  :D  :worried:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 09, 2018, 07:11:13 AM
Superb!  :greatpicturessign: and a great model too.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on June 09, 2018, 07:55:38 AM
:thankyousign:

Thanks guys, I have tried to get as much detail as I can in, without it looking cluttered  ;)

Also, thanks for the heads up about the cable clips ....I have not used them before, so maybe was a "bit previous" in praising them  :-[

I bet when I next need to open the bottom of the layout they will all shower out on the floor  :worried:  :D  :worried:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
I use the  and find them ok as long as you press them down really well.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on June 09, 2018, 08:17:17 AM
Cracking set of photos!  :thumbsup:

Really neat wiring. I too thought the sticky back cable clips were the biz until it got a bit warmer and almost all of them unstuck. For some reason, I don't think they work well on ply, varnished or not.

I re-used them with a dot of quick drying glue but a right pain to have to go around again.

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on June 09, 2018, 08:33:14 AM
Sure this is a hot contender for every "best of show" layout contest.
And the photography also is very good and shows the qualities of the layout.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on June 09, 2018, 08:48:31 AM
Having consistently praised your work on the layout I can now also add a big 'Thank You' for not scaring the wits out of me by having very neat wiring too.
Excellent work.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on June 09, 2018, 08:59:23 AM
Wot he said.  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 09, 2018, 09:47:18 AM
Beautiful work, Kevin. Thank you for another excellent set of photos. full of superb detailing and scenes.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 09, 2018, 12:48:45 PM
Hi All,

All seems OK so far with the cable clips. Picked the layout up and gave it a little shake (bet not many can do that with their layouts  :D  ;D  :D ) and no rattling !!

I'm not sure what to do here ...... to visually balance the stable block, I really need something in the sheep field corner. Vegetation would be a bit prone to damage, so I thought maybe a little abandoned shed, but that would be too similar to other huts sheds barns etc.

Then I found the tractor, originally to go "up top", but replaced with the horse and cart. I quite like the idea of it muddied up and put in the corner.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-090618123345-662332053.jpeg)

Any thoughts ??????

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on June 09, 2018, 01:44:32 PM

All seems OK so far with the cable clips. Picked the layout up and gave it a little shake (bet not many can do that with their layouts  :D  ;D  :D ) and no rattling !!


Totally the opposite actually. My layout usually rattles me :-[
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on June 09, 2018, 02:10:15 PM
 :admiration: :admiration: :admiration: :admiration: :admiration:

 :superblayout: :greatwork: :jealous:


Now, about that tractor...... In my experience of living on a farm estate for 30 years,  muddy tractors are the result of muddy tracks. I take your point about balance, and the corner positioning is fine, but it looks a bit 'plonked' at the moment. How about two muddy track grooves running across the corner beneath it? It would give the impression of the scene continuing beyond the layout border. Nothing too severe of course, but curving tracks with tractor tyre tread marks, say by rolling the model through the modelling medium before it sets. Just an idea.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on June 09, 2018, 05:41:04 PM
Decent option offered by Mike but I think the tractor may be just a little too much.

Agree about the shed idea. Perhaps something a tad smaller; a wood pile, remains of a fallen dead tree or similar.

However, you have made such a splendid job of everything so far, I should probably wait to see what you decide.  :)

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Masher69 on June 10, 2018, 09:49:15 AM
Great modelling in such a small place.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 10, 2018, 02:54:13 PM
Hi All,

Thank you for your replies and comments  :thumbsup:

On reflection, I think the tractor, and as you say Mike, the tracks it would leave to have got there would be too much. This is why I don't fix anything down ..... people, trees, whatever ...... until they have been tacky waxed down temporarily and I am sure that is where I want them to stay  ;)

However for my next project I have been looking through the stuff from Peedie Models, who do fab detailing items, and found this .....

https://www.peediemodels.com/proddetail.php?prod=PMPE33064 (https://www.peediemodels.com/proddetail.php?prod=PMPE33064)

which looks like this in real life .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-100618141510-662611617.jpeg)

So I think that is the way to go  :thumbsup:

Also now all the Electrix are in and working, which weirdly I really enjoyed doing  :-[
I tried to get some pictures in the dark, which was really difficult. After about a million zillion photos, the best I could come up with was this .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-100618142737-66262807.jpeg)

I think it is time for a new camera more suited to our hobby  :hmmm:

Anyway, while I had the soldering iron and electric string out I decided to add lights to the autocoach. I was comparing kits ages ago and saw this for £17.80 bargain price.

https://www.petersspares.com/traintech-cn2-coach-lighting-strip-warm-white-for-traditional-lighting-n-gauge.ir (https://www.petersspares.com/traintech-cn2-coach-lighting-strip-warm-white-for-traditional-lighting-n-gauge.ir)

Then realised that as the lights are motion activated, they will go on whenever I move, pack up, or set up the layout  :doh:

So on to this for £4.25 from Sue at Layouts-4-U, my favourite electrical people, along with Ade at Railroom Electronics.

The kit is the 9th item down.

http://www.layouts4u.net/nlighting.html (http://www.layouts4u.net/nlighting.html)

The on/off  slider switch went underneath the coach, and hey presto, with some little people in the coach here we have it  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-100618141505-662362011.jpeg)

It was a little tricky, so I could do a "how I did it" guide next week if you like.

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on June 10, 2018, 03:29:22 PM
Nice lighting, and the sheep feeder is a good idea. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on June 10, 2018, 03:37:03 PM
Lambtastic stuff as usual mate  :thumbsup:.

Regarding the coach lights, yes please to any 'how I did it' guides.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 10, 2018, 05:18:43 PM
Lambtastic stuff as usual mate  :thumbsup:.

Regarding the coach lights, yes please to any 'how I did it' guides.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Seconded! I have been thinking about coach lighting for night trains.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 10, 2018, 05:35:56 PM

 :thumbsup: OK, Will sort through the pictures I took and get on to it   :thumbsup:

All the best,

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 10, 2018, 05:52:17 PM

 :thumbsup: OK, Will sort through the pictures I took and get on to it   :thumbsup:

All the best,

Kevin

 :beers:

Excellent. Many thanks, Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on June 10, 2018, 07:36:03 PM
The pub looks most welcoming with all the lights on.
Great stuff.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MARK1985 on June 11, 2018, 12:24:12 PM
 :greatpicturessign: Kevin

nice work on the autocoach
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Caz on June 11, 2018, 06:56:14 PM
Here's a tutorial I did a few years ago on fitting lighting into coaches and also working tail lights, needs updateing but give you some idea of what is possible.

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=4022.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=4022.0)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 12, 2018, 06:00:34 PM
Hi All,

A few bits arrived in the post today  :D

Some 3d printed, and brass etchings (including the sheep feeder) that need making up, and also these cyclists, who went straight on the layout, waxed in position.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-120618173957-66396999.jpeg)

I am really pleased with how the new bridge looks, and it seems to have blended in well.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-120618170214-663941913.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-120618170215-663941563.jpeg)

While my camera was out, I tried taking some pictures with the lights on, again not very successfully, but photos as usual show up things to fix. The station lights shine right under the hedge, so a bit of filling in is needed.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-120618165714-6635390.jpeg)

And talking of lighting, I sorted the photos yesterday, for the autocoach lighting, so will put up the "how I did it" this evening.

All best wishes
Kevin.

 :beers: :beers:

PS These will be the last photos with trains in for a while, as they go to be weathered this week  :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 13, 2018, 02:44:12 AM
 :hellosign:

Just a quick note......Could not sleep tonight so have just put up the autocoach lighting bit.

Here it is  ..... http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41655.msg512761;topicseen#new (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41655.msg512761;topicseen#new)

All the best
Kevin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 13, 2018, 09:36:53 PM
Hi All,

I've had a nice relaxing day today, just pottering about and got the level crossing finished  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-130618212625-66424270.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-130618212543-66417125.jpeg)

So as not to get any reflections of the camera from the mirror under the bridge, I blanked it off with a bit of black cloth.

Fairly happy with it, but not sure about the little bit of wooden fence on the far right hand side. I may replace it with chain link to tie in with the yard fence and gates. :hmmm:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on June 13, 2018, 11:41:12 PM
Looks good. I quite like the wooden fence to the right. Would look to cheap with only a chain.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 13, 2018, 11:48:20 PM
Hi Alexander,

I meant continuing the metal fence to replace the wooden one. Still not sure  :hmmm:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :thankyousign:  :beers:  :thankyousign:

Edit ......Just mocked up something to help me decide. I don't want to pull the wooden fence down on a whim !

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-140618042429-66431762.jpeg)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: RailGooner on June 14, 2018, 12:31:46 AM
Wooden! :thumbsup:

Metal. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on June 14, 2018, 05:01:04 AM
Agree, wooden  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on June 14, 2018, 06:32:31 AM
Keep the wood I say
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on June 14, 2018, 06:34:29 AM
 As I wrote before:
Wood looks perfect.

Metal cheapish
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 14, 2018, 06:49:16 AM
  :wave: Good Morning  :wave:

Well as Alexander said from the start..... the wooden fence stays  :thumbsup:

I think I am looking for little jobs to do just to put off getting down to pouring the water in the lake  :-[

I have the sheep feeding ring to make, and a plastic protection strip for the edge of the backscene to do, then I will have to sort the lake out.

I think I will need to do a few practice pours off the layout first though.

Thank you all for your help  :D

With best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on June 14, 2018, 06:52:00 AM
The wood looks authentic.  If you want metal in a railway scenario, you should use upright railings similar to this:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/3091-140618064805-664321917.jpeg)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on June 14, 2018, 07:20:48 AM
Wooden! :thumbsup:

Metal. :thumbsdown:

Ditto!

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 14, 2018, 07:34:08 AM
Good to see that wood won the day!

You canít beat a good ďpotter aroundĒ  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on June 14, 2018, 08:15:21 AM
Kevin

I think wood fits in much better with the overall 'look' of your charming layout.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 14, 2018, 08:52:09 AM
Keep the wood I say

Ditto!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 17, 2018, 06:43:47 PM
Hi All,

Yesterday I made the sheep feeder ring from a brass etch by Paul at "Peedie Models". It was a bit fiddly, but not too bad if you are careful ....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-170618173620-665371297.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-170618173548-665351772.jpeg)

And this morning I added it to the layout .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-170618173534-66534216.jpeg)

With it in place, I have spent most of the day getting more and more annoyed with it though  >:( It just does not look right. I have tried really hard not to make the layout too cluttered, and I think this is a bit too much, so it is now in the "save it for another time" box  ::)

With it out of the way, I practiced a bit of photography on areas I have tidied up, so here is the greenhouse (also from Peedie) and allotments .....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-170618173710-665391357.jpeg)

Looking at the photo (why do we keep on taking close-ups  ::)  :-[  ::) ) although greenhouse glass should not be "Windowlene clean" I think it has got a bit too obscured... and I have got shelves and plants inside .... I may see if I can gently prise the roof off and re glaze it.

Then, taking a tip from Newport Nobby (Thanks Mick) but using smaller plastic channel than the A4 paper binders, I started adding a protective edging along the top of the backscene.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-200518125933-655391497.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-170618183656-665412203.jpeg)

I hope to finish it Monday or Tuesday so will show you then how it works out  ;)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on June 17, 2018, 06:48:26 PM
I can see what you mean about that sheep feeder.
I agree, something isnít quite right but maybe not give up on it yet?
Is it the straw that makes it look wrong I wonder?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on June 17, 2018, 07:37:34 PM
My greenhouse glass is probably far more opaque than your model!

Most greenhouses get dirty very quickly whatever you do. Perhaps you could have a guy up a ladder with a bucket and cloth on your model.

 
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on June 17, 2018, 08:37:53 PM
Plastic edging is a nice finishing touch, Kevin :thumbsup:

I can see what you mean about that sheep feeder.
I agree, something isnít quite right but maybe not give up on it yet?
Is it the straw that makes it look wrong I wonder?


It doesn't actually look too bad to me but I think it needs 'weathering in' :hmmm:

you could have a guy up a ladder with a bucket and cloth on your model.


Or maybe one of the ladies from the camper van cleaning party (just to keep a certain person happy ;))
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 18, 2018, 05:51:03 AM
Many thanks for more excellent photos. I also think that the sheep feeder ring looks good but I would dry-brush it with matt dark grey to 'dull' it down. This would help it to blend in, I think.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 18, 2018, 07:13:35 AM
I share your concerns regarding the sheep feeder, maybe a colour wash to blend it in more. Is it me, but the feeder reminds me of the wire frame from a champagne cork?  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on June 18, 2018, 04:09:40 PM
I share your concerns regarding the sheep feeder, maybe a colour wash to blend it in more. Is it me, but the feeder reminds me of the wire frame from a champagne cork?  :beers:
Maybe they're alcoholic sheep :confused1:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 18, 2018, 05:10:11 PM
Hi All  :wave:

Champagne corks Keith, far to classy for round this way Ö.. here it's more cider and pork scratchings Ö.. and you have to make your own pork scratchings with a pig and a cheese grater  :D  ::)  :D

Thanks Mick for your idea of a trim round the top of the backscene. When I finished it the white looked a bit too harsh an edge, so it is painted up, and I will take pics when my camera battery is charged up.

Also thank you all for your input re the sheep feeder. I haven't totally given up on it, so it may well reappear  ;)

The roof came off the greenhouse quite easily, and you can see here the shelves and plants inside.....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-180618170443-666601135.jpeg)

That's why I wanted clearer glass, which I am fitting now  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

PS..... The way the sheep have been falling over, you're right Mito, they could well be alcoholic  ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on June 20, 2018, 07:20:32 AM
Lovely work Kevin, was pleased to see the Flying Scotsman make a visit to Windmill Hill, I imagine there would be a bit of flange squeal that day!

Great work and superb photo's, lots of inspirational and inspired work on display!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 24, 2018, 02:16:13 PM
Hi Andrew,

Always good to hear from you, and thank you for all your support for Windmill Hill   :beers:

I am slowly building a collection of stock for when I eventually get a larger layout, and just HAD to get the "Flying Scotsman" as it is such an iconic loco. As I had nothing to photograph it on, I just managed to squeeze it on Windmill Hill. As I get more stock I may make a long shelf type diorama to practice my photography  :thumbsup:

The weather here has been really good, so not much going on inside apart from a bit of tidying up on the layout. I have a couple of new pics, so will try to put them up after lunch.  ;)

With all best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 24, 2018, 05:31:49 PM

Hi All,

Just putting up a few photos of what I have done, although it's not much as the weather has been too good to stay inside.

Most work has been tidying up, and correcting those little niggly things that close-up photos show. This has mostly been on trees that have been knocked, ballast and scatter round the track, and brushing and hoovering up static grass fibres that have gone where they shouldn't.

The roof came off the greenhouse quite well, as you have seen, and it was reglazed. Not with crystal clear glass, which would have been un-realistic, but with glass that had a VERY quick squirt of matt varnish, which was then quickly wiped off. This dirtied the glass, but you can still see through it  :thumbsup:

You can sort of see the effect here...Ö

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-240618162836-66928690.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-240618162825-66927739.jpeg)

Next job was painting the trim on the top of the backscene. The white was very stark as you can see here Ö..

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-170618183656-665412203.jpeg)

So I decided to paint it to blend in more with the photo scene. It would have been impossible to match exactly, but I just wanted to get the tones right.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-240618162657-66925745.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-240618162724-669261127.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-240618162459-669241054.jpeg)

The more eagle eyed may have spotted the camper girls have set up a barbeque, and now have a pet poodle..... not a very good guard dog as the sneaky photographer hiding behind the sign has not been chased off yet  :D :D :D

Next up was a drastic job, but not as difficult as I thought. Lifting the layout in and out of its case was leaving thumb prints on the short ends of the backscene, which were only going to get worse. Also, even though I was trying to be careful, there were a few spots of general paint, glue and grime on it, so I decided it had to be replaced. I made a paper template to get the shape, used it to cut the photo scene, and fixed it. This went so smoothly, and when blended in again looks ok

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-240618171945-66929272.jpeg)

To stop any splashes re occurring, I have saved the template to use as protection if I am going to get messy anywhere near the new backscene  :thumbsup:

To stop fingerprints spoiling the ends when lifting the layout in and out of the case, I had a cunning plan  :hmmm:

I cut a 4" wide strip of leatherette, and added a handle each end to make a sling, or hammock.....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-240618162445-66923112.jpeg)

This I can use to transfer the layout, without touching it  :thumbsup:  :D  :thumbsup:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-240618162304-669221219.jpeg)

Best wishes to you all
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on June 24, 2018, 06:16:53 PM
Thanks Kevin.

It's very obvious that you have had a great deal of fun building Windmill Hill and really appreciate you sharing it with us.

Brilliant!  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: GreyWolf on June 24, 2018, 08:43:16 PM
Hi All,

Lifting the layout in and out of its case was leaving thumb prints on the short ends of the backscene, which were only going to get worse.
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-240618171945-66929272.jpeg[/url])

To stop fingerprints spoiling the ends when lifting the layout in and out of the case, I had a cunning plan  :hmmm:

I cut a 4" wide strip of leatherette, and added a handle each end to make a sling, or hammock.....
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-240618162445-66923112.jpeg[/url])

This I can use to transfer the layout, without touching it  :thumbsup:  :D  :thumbsup:


A most excellent cunning plan Baldrick! Sorry 'Kevin', just one question ... where do the handles sit when the case is closed?

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on June 24, 2018, 09:02:48 PM
Kevin, what you have done with Windmill Hill is amazing.
It really demonstrates what can be done in N in a small space and the standard of modelling which can be achieved.
You have set the bar very high with this. Fantastic and thanks for sharing the build as it evolved.
Now for something else......
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on June 24, 2018, 09:57:32 PM
The leatherette grips and the painted edging are part of a plan so cunning you could put whiskers on it and call it a fox :D
It just gets smarterer and smarterer.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on June 24, 2018, 11:42:31 PM
A fantastic job and a credit to you. Triple :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: RailGooner on June 24, 2018, 11:56:59 PM
Phenomenal. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 25, 2018, 07:11:50 AM
Excellent Kevin,  :thankyousign:

A standard to aspire to!  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on June 25, 2018, 07:39:09 AM
I've run out of superlatives, so I'll have to make one up.....

Wondiferous! :thumbsup:  Well done Kevin. :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 25, 2018, 08:27:20 AM
Kevin, what you have done with Windmill Hill is amazing.
It really demonstrates what can be done in N in a small space and the standard of modelling which can be achieved.
You have set the bar very high with this. Fantastic and thanks for sharing the build as it evolved.
Now for something else......

Seconded! Painting the white edges to match the colours of the backscene was an excellent idea and the handles another excellent solution. All round superb work.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 26, 2018, 09:40:54 AM
Hi Kevin, may we, please, have a close-up of the camper girls with their barbeque and pet poodle. (I have bought a 2mm scale barbecue with figures and am interested in how yours looks in situ.)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 26, 2018, 02:06:29 PM
Hi All,

Thank you all so much for your kind comments. I have had so much fun..... and frustration sometimes  ;) Ö.. from building this little layout.

The support, advice, and friendliness here has made it a pleasure to be part of this group, and now Windmill Hill is nearing completion, I will have something I can bring along to any exhibitions / get togethers / meet ups in pubs ;) and it would be an awesome pleasure to meet up with some of you  :D :D :D

Windmill hill must take a trip to Australia via Cornwall, Scotland, Prague, Spain, Switzerland, Ireland, Lancashire, and even over to Hampshire  ;)

Yesterday I took this pic for Greywolf. the handles just flop over the top edges of the backscene, but the leatherette is short enough that they do not damage any scenery.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-260618132355-66983461.jpeg)

While I had the camera out, I also took these two photos ÖÖ..

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-260618132327-669308.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-260618132418-66984651.jpeg)

In the first one I was happy with the position of the cyclists, so glued them down. Also the new (and unbleamished  :D ) backscene being a little higher than before, along with the tidied up vegetation, makes the lamp, even when lit , not as intrusive as before.

And in the second one, the horses and figures found their best positions, and so are now glued in place.

Then it was on to the lake. At the moment nothing is fixed, I am just experimenting. The fishermen I am pretty happy with. The bank needs tidying, and the standing guy who has got a bite I think could go a bit closer to the water. I quite like the contrast of one guy getting a catch, and the little guy sitting doesn't seem to be having any luck at all  ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-260618132523-669851492.jpeg)

Over the otherside we have the family feeding the swans. Here you can see the difference between the quality of different figures. The standing child is a Preiser figure Ö.. more expensive than some, but when you are as up close as you are with this layout, the difference in quality is quite obvious. I think the Mum and child will have to go !!

Incidentally, who remembers wearing flares like the boat builder has  :-[  :P  :-[

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-260618132527-66986646.jpeg)

Here is an overview of the lake. Nothing is fixed yet, and I have cut some waterlillys to go on the surface. I have De luxe materials "Solid Water" with some colouring dye to play around with, so any hints or comments would  be very welcome  :thumbsup:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-260618132639-669871170.jpeg)

Also Chris, thank you for all your input and support. I will try and get some pics of the barbeque for you  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on June 26, 2018, 02:26:48 PM
Sheer magic, Kevin :admiration:


Windmill hill must take a trip to Australia via Cornwall, Scotland, Prague, Spain, Switzerland, Ireland, Lancashire, and even over to Hampshire  ;)


Along with some suitable merchandise "Windmill Hill On Tour" ;D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on June 26, 2018, 03:05:55 PM
I remember those flares.
They caused havoc getting caught in the chain on my bike.

As for the layout, it has provided so much inspiration for me. I cannot get near to your eye for detail but Iím doing the best I can.
As for a world tour.....bring it on!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on June 26, 2018, 04:03:40 PM
I remember those flares.
They caused havoc getting caught in the chain on my bike.


Me too. 36" flares (and I don't mean waist size)
I don't wonder they were called loon pants ::)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on June 26, 2018, 04:05:48 PM
Magical pictures from a magnificient layout.
You are definitely an ARTIST.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 27, 2018, 07:50:37 AM
I remember those flares.
They caused havoc getting caught in the chain on my bike.


Me too. 36" flares (and I don't mean waist size)
I don't wonder they were called loon pants ::)

1973, huge flares in dark pink (what was I thinking?), oh and shoulder length hair and a beard..... :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on June 27, 2018, 08:02:06 AM
I remember those flares.
They caused havoc getting caught in the chain on my bike.


Me too. 36" flares (and I don't mean waist size)
I don't wonder they were called loon pants ::)

1973, huge flares in dark pink (what was I thinking?), oh and shoulder length hair and a beard..... :goggleeyes:

 You've said it now. Pics please. It's the Forum Law.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 28, 2018, 07:09:50 AM
 :laughabovepost: it being 45 years ago I suspect (hope?) that any photographic evidence has long gone!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 28, 2018, 02:32:00 PM
Hi All,

Sorry no pics of flares, as like Keith. I had the loons, but I also hope all photographic evidence is long gone (although I still have the beard and long hair, some of which is being used for the fishermens lines on the lake  :D )

Instead here are some BBQ pics for Chris  :thumbsup:

The set of figures I used was this, from Rails of Sheffield Ö..

https://railsofsheffield.com/products/31521/woodland-scenics-wa2209-n-gauge-woodland-scenics-wa2209-n-gauge-figures-backyard-barbeque (https://railsofsheffield.com/products/31521/woodland-scenics-wa2209-n-gauge-woodland-scenics-wa2209-n-gauge-figures-backyard-barbeque)

I originally got them for a scene of a grounded coach being used as a holiday home, but there was not room. The figures are being used elsewhere, and the barbecue used for the camper girls. ;)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-280618133638-669931690.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-280618133828-670431495.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-280618133810-670421387.jpeg)

Oooops just noticed on that second picture there is a bit of bendy fence needing sorting. I've seen some bent wood badly stored at B & Q but not quite that buckled  :no:

Also I found some better figures for feeding the swans. I like the group now, and particularly like the mum shading her eyes from the sun, which outside in that set up seems a natural thing to do.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-280618140512-670442253.jpeg)

The swans do seem a fair distance away, but the water level will be roughly where the blue line is, bringing them closer Ö.. just close enough to break a child's arm with one swoop of their wing  ;D  :D  ;D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on June 28, 2018, 03:16:47 PM
Oh dear. Now the pervy photographer can hide behind a veil of BBQ smoke as well :uneasy:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 29, 2018, 06:22:15 PM

Hi all,

well it's time to knuckle down and do the part of the layout that I must admit is making me a bit nervous ÖÖ. adding water to the lake  :worried:  :confused1:  :worried:

This is the kind of atmosphere I want. A tranquil lake, but with a few people pottering about on a Summer afternoon Ö..

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-290618175356-67072388.jpeg)

I have painted the bottom of the lake blue, and am using this water, which dries crystal clear, and seems to be recommended over others as it does not crack or shrink. I also have some dye for it, if I colour the water.

It is this Ö.. Deluxe products "solid water"

https://www.deluxematerials.co.uk/en/scale-plastics/81-solid-water-350ml-5060243900722.html (https://www.deluxematerials.co.uk/en/scale-plastics/81-solid-water-350ml-5060243900722.html)

I will be experimenting with it over the weekend, and made these rough "baby lakes" to use, rather than risk doing it on the layout.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-290618174530-67050763.jpeg)

Has anyone used this stuff before, and has any tips. Also I am not sure if I should have the lake still (easier) or gently rippling (harder but probably more realistic)

Anyway Ö. wish me luck  ;)

Have a great weekend

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on June 29, 2018, 08:07:31 PM
Looks good, the trial ponds are a good idea, if my loch survives the landscapte rethink, I will have a similar problem to you ... looks like some monster tomahawk steaks on the girls bbq!  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on June 30, 2018, 07:16:53 AM
Hi Kevin,

Just wanted to wish you luck with the water and looking forward to your experiments.

I've never done it so can't help but will need to in the future.

I would of thought a little pond like yours could be dead still and realistic if no wind although the ducks would be making small ripples.

Thought it was amusing that you've done more greenery modelling in those 4 tubs than I've ever done  :D  :doh:  :-[  :(.

Don't be nervous, be brave, just jump in, pretend you're James Pond  :D

Sorry, I'll get me coot.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS. Others will have better knowledge but perhaps some greens and browns in the base paint. Not sure I've only looked into modelling the sea in the past.



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 30, 2018, 07:32:07 AM
I like the look of the trial ponds Kevin.
For a small pond I would think that you could realistically have a calm flat surface. If you want a challenge (you know that you do) how about modelling the reflections of the clouds?!  ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 30, 2018, 04:19:40 PM
Hi All,

After experimenting yesterday, these are the best results I got ÖÖ.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-300618155059-670921242.jpeg)

Thank you all for your ideas, and as you say, the lake is small and sheltered, and so would be flat calm Ö. a relief, as I completely messed up on one practice trying to add ripples  ;)

The colour I will make a half way mix of the two. One pond has a mix with a lot of colour added, which has made it too opaque, and the yellow I added gives it a too green / stagnant look. The other has a blue tint, with a little black added. I like this, but it is a bit too clear, so this is the colour I will use, but add a little more so it is not quite so transparent.

The swan although it sat on the surface when I put it there, sunk overnight  :worried: so I know not to put them, and the canoeist on the lake 'till it is completely set.

The waterlillys I cut were far too big and looked rubbish, so here I used Noch leaves, which I think look good. However I think they are a bit too thickly laid here. I will use a thinner on the layout.

Anyway, today is a tidy up day, as I don't want any accidental drops landing in the lake while it is setting.

Any thoughts welcome  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 30, 2018, 04:29:55 PM
Many thanks, Keith, for the latest updates and, in particular, the BBQ pics and all the info. about the water effect. I have still to add water (pools, waterfalls, a cove, an estuary to Cant Cove and also want to achieve clear blue water as seen on a bright, sunny day). I'm sorry that your swan sunk. 8-(
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on June 30, 2018, 04:42:17 PM
Cheers Chris,

I wish you luck with your water. Deluxe materials have lots of products for waterfalls, waves etc, but my advice is practice off layout  ;)

Glad you found the barbecue stuff useful ÖÖ. and yes fat swans don't float, especially if they are made of metal  :D (Fat robot swans  :confused1: )

Have a great weekend

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on July 01, 2018, 01:10:42 AM
Hi Kevin,

Sorry too about the swan.....

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesgrayson/2748120530 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesgrayson/2748120530)

It probably is too blue but I like the pond on the left. After working for a bit yesterday in the 'ampshire heat I would of jumped in.

Good luck with further experiments.

Apart from getting the colours to your liking, is the product good and easy to do?

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 01, 2018, 01:15:06 PM
Hi Weave,

Thank you for the good luck message re the pond ÖÖ.. now is the moment of truth, as after lunch I will pour the water.  :worried:

Like you, I like the clearer blue of the pond on the left, but as you say, it may be a bit too bright, so I took your advice and repainted the bottom of the pond a slightly duller colour, so with the coloured dye I should get something between the two trial "mini ponds"  :hmmm:

I should have realised that with your harbour layout you would be needing water ! I must be a bit dense  :dunce: as I love how you are developing your harbour. The outside bars and pubs look fab, and the zig zag road and rocks look superb  :D :D

When I am done, I will report on how I got on with the water  :thumbsup:

When the bottom was dry, I sorted the fishermen out. I added another figure, and also a small hedge between them and the railway line. That was easy..... fixing the rods and fishing line ( made from my own hair  ;) ) was a bit tricky, but here is how it came out Ö.. the photo, not my hair  ;D ;D ;D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-010718125002-671102482.jpeg)

Off now to mix the water !

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 01, 2018, 02:03:36 PM
 :hellosign:

Well it's done now..... Water mixed Ö..

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-010718135646-671162063.jpeg)

Lake poured ÖÖ

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-010718135643-671131243.jpeg)

Now what do I do while it sets  :hmmm:

Sunday Cider  :claphappy:  :laugh3:  :claphappy:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on July 01, 2018, 02:32:39 PM
Looks good.
I suggest Sunday Cider, in the sun at the pub.
Cheers   :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on July 01, 2018, 04:11:01 PM
Hi Kevin,

Looks great.

Thank you for the compliments about the bars etc. but am going for a tide out look with Trťmargat St. Croix. Will see how it looks and if rubbish will then fill with something and then water on top.

You're not being dense at all, the water bit I mentioned is for the future Port Regleun (Brittany) and the Principat d'Izaro (France/Spain) layouts which were started but are still on hold as no one wants to buy our house  :(.

Anyway, great stuff. Enjoy the agricultural champagne. Am having one myself as I write.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 01, 2018, 06:12:32 PM
Looking forward to the update on the water in the small lake and a detailed mini tutorial, Kevin. I hope all goes as you would wish. So far, it looks really excellent.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Caz on July 01, 2018, 07:52:48 PM
Well that seems to have turned out well Kevin, it looks the biz.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on July 01, 2018, 08:36:45 PM
I think that looks great, Kevin. May I ask...........................what did you dilute the water with? :-X
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on July 01, 2018, 08:54:40 PM
I think that looks great, Kevin. May I ask...........................what did you dilute the water with? :-X
Hopefully not vodka!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 02, 2018, 11:45:54 AM
Hi All,

Hope you all had a good weekend.

Thank you Caz for your kind comments. The lake was a bit daunting, as I had ripped up the top level once when I had track issues, and did not want to have to do it again. Only got one little prob that needs fixing, but is getting to look the biz  :D

The colour I am pleased with. A nice blue, reflecting a lovely Summer sky, but when I got back last night, I noticed a little problem ÖÖ

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-010718215313-67117121.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-010718215340-671281157.jpeg)

Where the fishermen are, along the beach, and another spot opposite the beach, the water has seeped into the landscaping. This has spoilt the static grass, some of the bushes, and although on any real sandy beach ( I know... I live at the sea-side  :D )
the sand at the waters edge is wet, it looks wrong here.

However this should be easy to fix. The water is now solid, but the surface is a bit tacky, so I can add the water lilies, swans and canoe without them sinking, but won't do anything else as I don't want static grass or fine sand sticking to the surface and spoiling it.

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on July 02, 2018, 12:30:46 PM
I see what you mean Kevin. Your little lake isnít tidal so the sand wouldnít be wet.
Will you simply add another very thin layer of sand to cover the darkened area?
I assume your canoe has a flat bottom so it looks ok sitting on the water.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 02, 2018, 12:57:41 PM
Hi Martin,

Yes, a thin layer of sand should do the trick, so I will be off to the beach, about 5mins walk from my house, to get some Ö.. and probably an ice cream as well  :D

The sand here is very fine, so ideal for N gauge, but I don't want to do any repair with it, or static grass which gets everywhere, in case I get any stuck to the still slightly tacky surface.

The canoe, or kayak or whatever it is sits well, so that is now on, and I am now carefully trimming the bulrushes and adding water lilies round them, so hope to have some pics up later.

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on July 02, 2018, 01:12:53 PM
Hi Kevin,

Good luck with the repair. Am taking notes and looking forward to the pics.

Enjoy your ice cream.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS I'm sure one of the German companies does a great big fat mother in law (like mine) in N gauge who has just bombed the pond!  :D.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 02, 2018, 01:18:32 PM

Ha, If she had dive bombed the lake, I needn't have put the water in it  :D

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on July 02, 2018, 01:20:32 PM
Enjoy your ice cream.
Living near the beach is always handy although th sand at our nearest beach is too coarse for N gauge.
We have to travel a few miles further North to find fine sand.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 02, 2018, 01:23:36 PM
Seems like you need a trip to Weymouth in Bertie  :D :thumbsup:  :D

Cheers

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 02, 2018, 06:02:03 PM
I brought back a plastic bag of superfine sand (like talcum powder) from Dorset (from a VERY large stretch of sandy beach) and used it in my BR SR ballast mix, plus have used it as fine gravel on paths. The coarser Cornish sand, kindly sent by Martin, is good for small rocks in 2mm Scale.

I do hope you'll be able to restore the surrounding scenery, Kevin, once the 'water' has properly dried.

I should add 'water' before beach sand, it seems, at Cant Cove itself. Good to know.

I think those are Noch Weeping Willows by the boat house near the pond?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 02, 2018, 06:59:18 PM
Hi Chris and all,

Just back from a mooch along the esplanade, had a yummy local made ice cream, and snaffled a bag of sand.  ;D

Yes, it seems best to put the water down first, then to landscape around it.... first hand experience is a great teacher  ;)

The fixes should not be too difficult to fix, and I am very pleased with how the colour turned out. Glad I experimented first  :thumbsup:

Here is an overview of how things look now Ö.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-020718182722-671571257.jpeg)

I based the edging of the lake around our local wild bird sanctuary, which is on Radipole Lake. At first I thought the bulrushes were too big, but they grow really tall. :o Also, a small hedge now seperates the little fishing area from the rails.

There is not so much growing alongside the Pub garden, as that would be well looked after, but alongside the railway, where it is hard to get at it should be more wild.

Here are some close ups. I am really chuffed how well the figures look. It is so worth the extra cost to get good quality little people.

These guys are not fixed down yet as I need to fix this end

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-020718182916-671601377.jpeg)

Where this area needs fixing I must be very careful not to break the fishing line :worried:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-020718182828-671581631.jpeg)

A couple more shots. The canoe is fixed and sits quite nicely in the water

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-020718182909-6715916.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-020718181635-67132343.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:


Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on July 02, 2018, 07:11:13 PM
Looks really good Kevin. I hope that the canoeist isnít going to upset the fishermen by getting too close.
And I see that the selfie taking tramp is still about  :D
This really is top not h modelling. So many little scenes to see and admire and so well executed.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 02, 2018, 07:36:50 PM
He He !

I think the fisherman standing up has hooked the canoeist and is reeling him in  :D :D

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on July 02, 2018, 07:39:14 PM
Hi Kevin,

I might be getting the wrong end of the fishing rod but surely (although it went a bit wrong) you have to put the sand down first and then the water as it would look wrong just stopping on top of the water.

Apologies if talking rubbish.

Hope you know what I mean. Have been drinking Aspalls in the heat.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on July 02, 2018, 07:43:19 PM
Sorry,  Great modelling and pics by the way  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on July 02, 2018, 07:47:33 PM
AMAZING.
In the overview close to those WIDE tracks one realizes the real size of the pond.

Ok. In the real world the water might be greenish from algues and plants, or brownish from dirt... but in those gentle hills around the windmill live is still perfect and aquamarin is the right color for an idyllic pond...
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on July 02, 2018, 07:50:46 PM

And I see that the selfie taking tramp is still about  :D


 ;D

Sorry, and I hope this doesn't upset folks, but I don't like the canoeist being there at all. It looks as if  one good stroke of his paddle and he'll be across the the other side. Maybe a father/son and a model sailing boat would look more to size :hmmm: :sorrysign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 02, 2018, 07:53:55 PM
Hi Weave,

You're not at the wrong end of the rod at all, that is exactly what I thought  :thumbsup:

When I get to my next case, a harbour, I should be ok, as the water will be against plastic harbour walls.

Maybe where the water is against something it could soak into, it needs some sort of sealant. The sand and static grass is now solid as a rock, preserved in resin  :-[

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 02, 2018, 08:12:27 PM
Hi Mick,

Don't be sorry, as I admire your input, and you have been awesomely helpful in getting "Windmill Hill" up and running, and in it's present state, so thank you so much for that

 :thankyousign:

Perhaps the canoe could have been a bit smaller, I have seen small dinghies for kids in N gauge, but this is one of those times when photos aren't as good as real life, especially on the foreshortened shot straight on to the fishermen

Anyway Ö. its in now  :P

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

PS, When you get your bike, you must ride down to Weymouth, we'll load up with cider and beer, and take Windmill Hill on tour  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on July 03, 2018, 07:05:33 AM
Ace job Kevin!

Now I understand why they have to top up the beaches before every summer  :D (hope the repair goes well).
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on July 03, 2018, 07:22:07 AM
Certainly great water modelling, Kevin.  :thumbsup:

However, I must agree with Mick that the canoe looks huge.

If I recall correctly, forum member Chetcombe had a canoeist on his layout which was sourced from Woodland Scenics. I'm sure it was smaller.

However, it wouldn't be the first time I got it wrong!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on July 03, 2018, 07:38:51 AM
Hi Kevin,

I know it's more money but you could always just have 4 or 5 very young kids mucking about in the canoe. Mum wouldn't allow them on the nearby large lake but dad persuaded her they'd be OK in the pond.

Just an idea.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 03, 2018, 10:01:46 AM
 :hellosign:

Good Morning All,

Not much doing today, as I will be out this afternoon, so this morning I aim to cut away the resin encrusted static grass, and top layer of sand, and re do the beach. I will have to be careful cutting anything away, as I don't want to cause any damage.

I could just pile the new stuff on top, but that would make it too bulky in an already small space ( everything here is in a small space  ;) ) so I will just try to be really careful and take it slowly.

Hope to get pics up before I go out  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

PS. Hi Bealman, it actually is a Woodland Scenic canoe  ;)



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on July 03, 2018, 10:16:11 AM
Oops, sorry!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 04, 2018, 09:35:19 AM
Good morning Kevin,

I do hope all went well with cutting away, and then replacing, the resin encrusted static grass, and the top layer of sand, and redoing the beach.

The water looks great. Just the effect I'd love to achieve for the non-estuary areas of water at Cant Cove.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 04, 2018, 11:35:51 AM
Hi Chris,

did the sand yesterday, so today will patch in the static grass  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-211117124702-584011526.jpeg)

all best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on July 04, 2018, 01:50:22 PM
Superb job on the water, you managed to get the reflections in too!  I can imagine some cross words between the canoeist and the anglers ..

Good luck with the remedials ... I quite liked the wet sand ... looked to me like a downpour had occured and the higher up sand had dried off
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on July 04, 2018, 05:10:37 PM
Hi Chris,

did the sand yesterday, so today will patch in the static grass  :D

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/5755-211117124702-584011526.jpeg[/url])

all best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

I got the same effect with my static grass applicator when I plugged it into the mains rather than using the recommended battery   :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on July 04, 2018, 07:41:04 PM
Looks like you need more green to me... :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 06, 2018, 01:34:14 PM
Hi All,

Sorry no updates for a while, but I have been working very slowly and carefully so as (hopefully) not to mess anything up. ;)  I have also lost the card for my camera, so have not been able to take any photos, but will get a new one tomorrow. :thumbsup:

The sand went down ok, as did the static grass, but before putting that down I took up all the landscaping round the lake. I also VERY carefully uprooted the fishermen, leaving them only attached to the water by their fishing lines.

The grass went down last night, so is now dry, and today will be a hoovering day to get the excess grass up. No matter how I mask things it still gets everywhere  :doh:

So far the only casualties have been a couple of small trees that have lost some of their branches  :(

When I redo the bushes round the lake, I will thin them out, and also cut back some of the bulrushes. Hopefully that will make the lake look bigger. Also if I am careful I think I can thin out some of the waterlilies which will help as well.

I like Weave's idea ( :thankyousign:) of kids with the canoe. The "Dad" figure is well fixed in the canoe, but one of the kids that came in a set ….. I think with the kids on the swing by the Pub, looks just right in the canoe. :D  This gives the scenario that Mum is feeding the swans with two of the kids, while Dad is taking the other one for a splash about in the canoe, keeping close so Mum can keep an eye on them, and not going up the other end to upset the fishermen.

(Anyway, they are not real fishermen. I just added a couple of sticks with worms at the water end, and cider drinkers at the other end  ;D )

 I think this will work, and cutting back the greenery will make the lake look bigger, and in turn the canoe smaller  :hmmm:

Anyway we will soon see, and photos will follow when I get the new card  :D  ;)  :D

With all best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:  :NGF:  :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 06, 2018, 04:24:23 PM
 :hellosign:

Just had another idea to make the lake bigger.... I'm mixing another batch of water, and will add a thin layer over the existing surface.

This may affect the colour, let's see how it goes  :hmmm:

Wish me luck  ;)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 06, 2018, 04:29:48 PM
I hope all goes, well, Kevin. The raised level could be the result of a recent thunderstorm.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 06, 2018, 04:32:25 PM
 :thankyousign:

I like your thinking Chris  :thumbsup:

PS, It's Kevin, not Keith..... Keith is a bit further down the coast from me !
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on July 06, 2018, 06:03:07 PM
:thankyousign:

I like your thinking Chris  :thumbsup:

PS, It's Kevin, not Keith..... Keith is a bit further down the coast from me !

In another county even (by about a mile....)  :D

Good luck with the raising of the water level Kevin, an increase in water storage is more then welcome in the current climate!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 06, 2018, 06:16:36 PM
Oops! My sincere apologies; I got 'my Ks' muddled up!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 09, 2018, 12:13:38 AM
 :hellosign: Only said many    :thankyousign: , but watching this fantastic layout developing from the beginning. Excellent modelling Kevin  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 09, 2018, 12:32:33 AM
Hi Derek,

Hope you are well, and had a good weekend  :thumbsup:

I am just putting a few a few more pics up, and noticed a heap more  :thankyousign: from you.  :D

When I reached 50 pages here, I looked through how "Windmill Hill" had taken shape, and there are a few people who have followed right from the beginning, and all your support is hugely appreciated.

I have tried to give an honest account of how things have been going, warts and all, and when things have gone boobies up, and I have managed to fix them your support and appreciation has really cheered me up  :D

 :NGF:  :thankyousign:  :NGF:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 09, 2018, 01:02:28 AM
Hi All,

I had a lovely day in the sun today, and as I got my new photo card yesterday, here are some pics of how things are looking round the lake. I have been going really slowly, waiting till glue, paint etc dry properly before continuing to next stages, and here are the results ÖÖ

The area where the family will be feeding the swans is tidied up and re-grassed Ö..

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-090718001509-672941337.jpeg)

The same with the fishing area Ö..

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-090718001427-67270116.jpeg)

And there is a little kid in the canoe Ö..

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-090718001723-67296764.jpeg)

This was all done after I had re-done the sand Ö.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-090718001635-672951807.jpeg)

Here is an overview of the whole lake. A new top layer has made it a little bigger, and allowed me to adjust the water lillies. I have also trimmed the bulrushes down a bit.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-090718001811-67297849.jpeg)

Next job tomorrow will be weathering the new sand a bit, with pastels, as you can see it looks a bit too clean. There will be a bit of definition on the path, variation round the boathouse, and boat builders, and crazily enough, bit of varnish I think needs to be added on the waterline to show the sand is wet, but not quite so much as had soaked in before  ;)  :no:  ;)

Then some scatters, bushes etc, and patch up where I broke a few trees  :-[

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on July 09, 2018, 08:12:35 AM
Morning Kevin,

Looks really really good.

 What else can I say except that I want to go there, have a couple of pints, a dip in the pond before a bit of lunch and then watch the trains go by with a few more pints.

Prob too many and then decide that it would be fun to climb the rocks up to the road bridge before the stagger home and regret it big time :doh: Sorry, had a reliving my youth moment  :D

Great stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:


 
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on July 09, 2018, 08:21:15 AM
Cracking work, lovely photographs and a very appealing place to want to visit as Weave mentions!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on July 09, 2018, 09:54:08 AM
In the immortal words of Craig Revel Horwood..........fab-u-lous :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 09, 2018, 01:13:04 PM
Hi All,

Thanks so much guys Ö.. It all seems to be coming together  :beers:

You have summed up exactly what I was trying to achieve. With the constraints of the case, I was never going to get any prototypical realism, and the operating interest is limited to watching two trains go round with a drink in my hand  :D   :thumbsup:  :D

With this in mind, I set about building an idyllic little oasis, on a lovely sunny day, full of interesting little people doing interesting things, all around a very inviting Pub  :D

Well Ö...It all seems to be coming together   :beers:

With all best wishes
Kevin



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on July 09, 2018, 02:16:13 PM
Hi All,

Thanks so much guys Ö.. It all seems to be coming together  :beers:

You have summed up exactly what I was trying to achieve. With the constraints of the case, I was never going to get any prototypical realism, and the operating interest is limited to watching two trains go round with a drink in my hand  :D   :thumbsup:  :D

With this in mind, I set about building an idyllic little oasis, on a lovely sunny day, full of interesting little people doing interesting things, all around a very inviting Pub  :D

Well Ö...It all seems to be coming together   :beers:

With all best wishes
Kevin

This all sounds exactly like my kind of prototypical realism!

Great stuff.

Thank you for your fascinating posts and photographs.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 09, 2018, 03:40:10 PM
Thanks John,

I think the first and last parts of your signature sum up just what we are aiming for  :D

I made a new sea-foam tree and settled the fishermen in this morning, now over to the other side before I mess this little scene up with too much fiddling about  ;D  ;)  ;D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-090718152930-673011589.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on July 09, 2018, 03:47:56 PM
Which is Bob Mortimer and which is Paul Whitehouse? ;D

(In case you're wondering what I'm blathering on about there is a current show on BBC with them both talking about their heart problems whilst fishing in various parts of the country)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on July 09, 2018, 04:05:12 PM
You have achieved exactly what I always try to achieve (although not nearly as well as your goodself I have to say).
That is to be able to watch trains (without having to continually operate them) going around on a semi believable, fairly realistic but by and large make believe layout  involving various characters (little people) going about their typical (but perhaps slightly mischievous) lives.
To be able to relax (with  a glass or three of your favourite tipple) watch, reminisce, dream and generally enjoy the trains in your own little make believe environment is to me what itís all about.
Many thanks for this wonderfully inspiring little build Kevin.
Really well done.

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on July 09, 2018, 05:01:55 PM
Yep, what PP said sums it all up nicely... :beers:  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 09, 2018, 06:07:36 PM
It's exactly how you and Chris (Weave) have described it, Kevin, and the latest scenic refinements complete the small lake area perfectly.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on July 09, 2018, 08:46:44 PM
You have achieved exactly what I always try to achieve (although not nearly as well as your goodself I have to say).
That is to be able to watch trains (without having to continually operate them) going around on a semi believable, fairly realistic but by and large make believe layout  involving various characters (little people) going about their typical (but perhaps slightly mischievous) lives.
To be able to relax (with  a glass or three of your favourite tipple) watch, reminisce, dream and generally enjoy the trains in your own little make believe environment is to me what itís all about.
Many thanks for this wonderfully inspiring little build Kevin.
Really well done.

Very nicely phrased, Martin.  This sums up perfectly my present approach to the hobby.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on July 09, 2018, 09:30:16 PM
What more can I add? Not much I think except it has given me much pleasure watching it develop and learning at the same time. You have achieved exactly what I'm trying to do. It's absolutely superb.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 09, 2018, 10:01:27 PM
 :hellosign:

Hi guys,

I did wonder what you meant Mick, as I am one of those weirdos who does not have a television set  :D However I did follow up on youtube from another topic you posted on about the guy from Birmingham who makes minatures. Wow ….. so awesome ….and we get stressed when our platforms go a bit wonkey  ;)

Thank you all for your comments, and I am so glad you get the essence of what Windmill Hill is all about.  :thumbsup:

When I first came on here I did not realise how many different facets there are to railway modelling, and everyone can enjoy the hobby however they choose. Whether it is shunting, watching trains run, building scenery, installing the technology, we can all get different pleasures from N Gauge.

The fab thing about being here, is we soon find little groups who enjoy the same things, but if we want to find out about something we don't know anything about, there is always someone ready to help and advise .

 :heart2: I'm lovin' it  :heart2:

Many thanks everyone  :NGF:

all best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:


Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: cornish yorkie on July 09, 2018, 11:32:57 PM
 :hellosign: More excellent work Kevin   :greatpicturessign: & your comments on our hobby hit the nail right on the head, (yours too Martin PP)
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Lazy-Ferret on July 27, 2018, 10:31:32 PM
 :helpneededsign:
what's going on??? It's been weeks!!

I need a Windmill Hill fix, I have the shakes from withdrawal symptoms

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 31, 2018, 10:48:35 AM
Aww ..… did you miss me  :(

Thank you lazy ferret, but nothing to worry about, all is well  :D

My computer died on me, so needed attention, and a new screen, but it took an age for the screen to arrive, so I have been internet free for the last few weeks. However I collected my refreshed computer this morning  :thumbsup:

Being computer free has meant I have been able to get out in the sun and sort the little bit of garden I have, paint the back of my house (real one, 12" to the foot scale  ;) ) get to a couple of festivals …….. and finish "Windmill Hill"  :)

Yes, it is done. All I have to do now is resist the temptation to fiddle and faff about with it. I must leave it alone and not risk spoiling it  :no:

Once I have caught up with what is happening here, I will get some pictures up.

Promise  :D :D :D :D

All best wishes

Kevin

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on July 31, 2018, 10:59:15 AM
Well done and welcome back!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on July 31, 2018, 12:38:31 PM
Congratulation on finishing.
 :claphappy:  :claphappy:

Having observed your Windmill Hill construction... I think the ONLY way to get your hands off that perfect layout is to start another one  8)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on July 31, 2018, 12:40:07 PM
You mean there's life outside model railways? ???
I never knew that :dunce:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on July 31, 2018, 12:51:57 PM
Yes, don't fiddle faddle on with it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 31, 2018, 01:10:52 PM
Congratulation on finishing.
 :claphappy:  :claphappy:

Having observed your Windmill Hill construction... I think the ONLY way to get your hands off that perfect layout is to start another one  8)

Seconded!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on July 31, 2018, 02:24:01 PM
You mean there's life outside model railways? ???
I never knew that :dunce:

So says the man with a brand-new motorcycle!

And congratulations Kevin.  I have enjoyed the Windmill Hill story and look forward to reading about your next layout.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on July 31, 2018, 04:53:10 PM
Windmill Hill has been such an inspiration to me.
Itís a fabulous project and finished to perfection.
Iím really looking forward to the next layout......soon please!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on July 31, 2018, 11:42:24 PM
Me too!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 01, 2018, 07:52:04 AM
Me too!  :thumbsup:

And me!  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on August 01, 2018, 04:13:22 PM
Me too!  :thumbsup:

And me!  :beers:

And me too! :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 01, 2018, 09:20:48 PM
 :hellosign:

Hi all,

thank you all for your comments, and Alexander is right, the only way to stop me keep fiddling with Windmill Hill (apart from playing trains  :D ) is to crack on with the next layout !

I have the case, and as I think I have mentioned the new one will be a Harbour setting, so I have a trawler, and harbour walls from Langleys, and various detailing bits from Peedie and P & D Marsh. I also have a small Diesel Shunter.

I'm not sure on how it will all work together as I need a few more things before I can plan track & buildings.

Here are a few pics of how the lake turned out. The sand was weathered a bit, and a bit of gloss varnish added to the waterline Ö..

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-010818150519-677322451.jpeg)

Here is the family feeding the swans ÖÖ.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-010818150732-677831437.jpeg)

While Dad is taking the other kid out in the canoe ÖÖ

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-010818210501-677891076.jpeg)

And the fishermen are at the other end ÖÖ

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-010818151239-67785545.jpeg)

I am pleased with the water, but it does get dusty easily.....the surface needs a good clean before photographs, but I must be careful not to break the fishing lines  ;)

Here is an overall view of the completed lake. Cutting back some of the reeds, bushes and waterlilies has really seemed to make it look bigger.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-010818151627-677862413.jpeg)

Anyway, hope you like the pics..... sorry I've been absent for a bit. Over the next couple of days I will give the layout a good clean and tidy up, and get some more pics for you.

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on August 01, 2018, 09:42:27 PM
Wonderful bucolic scenes, Kevin :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 02, 2018, 09:24:30 AM
Many thanks, Kevin, for this latest set of excellent photos. Even your ballasting and sleeper painting is superb, puts my trackwork to shame. I guess I work too quickly.

I'm really looking forward to seeing your next little layout develop. If your small diesel shunter is a Class 03, it could be BR ER, LMR, SR or WR rail-served quay, as all four BR regions had allocations of these shunters and dockside lines. If it is a Class 04, it could be BR ER, LMR, or SR. (BR WR did have a few Class 04s, for a short time, but in the Worcester area.)

Class 08s were used on all regions and some quayside lines were able to take them.

For the LMR and the ScR, there is, of course, the excellent Minitrix Fowler dock tank which only really needs its buffers replaced with oval brass ones. These, still in excellent condition, can be found cheaply on eBay.

In 4mm Scale , there is an excellent SR / BR SR dockside layout, Canute Road Quay:

https://grahammuz.com/category/canute-road-quay/

https://grahammuz.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/trackplan_1.jpg

It's a superb example of what can be achieved in a small space and may well inspire you with some ideas of your own. Of course, you'll have, relatively, more space so can, as stated, include the actual quayside and your trawler. For a superb example of quayside sides, see Martin Scane's Trepol Bay Harbour.

Alas, far fewer of the suitable locos. to work a BR SR quayside are available in 2mm Scale. (A Class 07 as a kit for fitting on a Class 04 chassis is, though, and that's on my list. I already have the spare Class 04. And I'm hoping for a 3D printed B4, although space for a DCC chip, even a micro one will b a challenge!)

Of course, there is the forthcoming NGS diesel shunter range and some are models of actual dock shunters (some of the models will even have a flashing cab roof light) and one of these would be ideal for working alongside a BR diesel shunter.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 02, 2018, 12:32:09 PM
PS The excellent Peedie Models have announced: "We will be adding a number of nautical items to our website shortly in both 2mm and 4mm scales, such as bollards, winches, anchors and several other items with will make your quayside look even more realistic." (Perfect timing!)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 02, 2018, 05:54:15 PM
Cheers Mick ….. now you have your bike, we must get out and find some places like this in real life to enjoy  :D

Thank you as well Chris for such an informative post …. you really are an encyclopedia !!

There was so much stuff coming into Weymouth by sea (including the Black Death, which is another story  :worried: :worried: ) This means if my layout is vaguely set here, I can run pretty much anything  ;)

Passenger stock for the boat trains was pulled by Pannier tanks which I have, and I even have a pic of an Ivatt 2mt "Mickey Mouse" here. Later it was bigger diesels, that I don't know anything about so can't identify them. Also 03, 04, and 08 shunters.

I believe the 08 is quite wide, so I did not get one of those, as in such a small space I have to be very careful with clearances. I must admit as well, I find them quite ugly  :uneasy:

Freight was fish vans, tankers coming in with fuel for the boats, and all sorts of market produce and flowers from the Chanel Isles, bound for London.

Anyway ….. this is what I have, an 04……

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-020818174004-677992331.png)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

PS Thanks for the heads up with Peedie Models, their stuff is excellent quality, and it is always a pleasure to chat on the phone. Last time I called he mentioned they would be doing some harbour detailing  :thumbsup:  :D  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 02, 2018, 06:52:36 PM
Weymouth Quay is an excellent prototype, Kevin, and is another one of my interests. Thanks for the very nice photo.

A variety of steam locos. were used by BR WR then BR SR. But, as you state, only the 57xx and 8750 0-6-0PTs and Ivatt 2MT 2-6-2Ts are available in N Gauge.

Actually, it was the SR design (with Bulleid Firth wheels) Class 12s (a few especially dual-brake fitted) and not the, later, similar, Class 08 or 09s that were used on Weymouth Quay, inbetween the Class 04s and dual-brake fitted Class 03s. The 03s were replaced by Class 33/1s. Class 73/1s also appeared on specials, as did Class 37s.

SR Bogie Bs and CCTS, as well as WR Siphon Gs, also appeared on the Quay along with Bulleid and BR Standard (Mark 1) coaches (In BR SR GReen, BR WR Lined Maroon and, later BR Blue & Grey liveries). I need to check if BR WR Chocolate & Cream coaches also appeared before BR SR took over.

I'm very glad that you also like Peedie Models. I bought a lot of their models, last year, and helped them make the new LSWR water cranes, which arrived this week.

The outside frame Class 08 models do require extra clearance, so a Class 04 is a better choice. I have the same SR one as Martin, plus an SR BR Blue one and plan to have a BR SR one in BR Black Early Crest livery, like those at Plymouth Friary.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 02, 2018, 08:16:36 PM
Hi Chris,

Wow ..Ö you really are an encyclopedia, and thank you so much for your generosity in sharing your knowledge  :thumbsup:

May I just ask, on "Windmill Hill", I am sorting wagons out, ready to be weathered, and it occurred to me that the Terrier on the upper level should have a brake van ?

I have this Toad van, which I use if I am running wagons at station level, as a change from the autocoach. Should I get another for "upstairs" like this ? Ö..

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-020818195830-67805112.jpeg)

I am glad you like the Weymouth photo. I put that one up, as it shows the shunter I have, and is also more or less the view from the end of my road  :D :D :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:















Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 02, 2018, 08:31:44 PM
Hi Chris,

Wow ..Ö you really are an encyclopedia, and thank you so much for your generosity in sharing your knowledge  :thumbsup:

May I just ask, on "Windmill Hill", I am sorting wagons out, ready to be weathered, and it occurred to me that the Terrier on the upper level should have a brake van ?

I have this Toad van, which I use if I am running wagons at station level, as a change from the autocoach. Should I get another for "upstairs" like this ? Ö..

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-020818195830-67805112.jpeg[/url])

I am glad you like the Weymouth photo. I put that one up, as it shows the shunter I have, and is also more or less the view from the end of my road  :D :D :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:


It's always my pleasure to share any knowledge that I may have. How great to have such an attractive view.

Yes, your little goods train should have a brake van at the end. The "Toad" brake vans are very attractive. If your upper goods train is a BR one and not a GWR one, the ex-LMSR or BR Standard brake vans in BR Brown or Grey livery, would be a very good choice. Graham Farish make both but the Peco and Minitrix BR Standard brake vans in BR Brown livery (I also have those, too) are cheaper and, usually, on eBay.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 02, 2018, 09:16:13 PM
Hi Chris,

 :thankyousign:

Many thanks for that. The Terrier is a GWR one with a shirtbutton emblem, so I will get another GWR Toad like I have...Ö It just looks so huge in a tiny space  :D

I have been messing around taking a few photos today. One of the Pub Ö.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-020818194726-678002246.jpeg)

And one from further back, with the trainspotting guy lining up a photo as the Terrier comes past Ö.can anyone spot I forgot to put any wagons behind  :-[ :-[ :-[

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-020818194934-678041724.jpeg)

Then going "downstairs" here is a close up of the stable area Ö..

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-020818194741-678011885.jpeg)

Then I wanted to take photos from further back but without a baseboard edge, so I made this section to put against the front facia Ö.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-020818194847-678021660.jpeg)

And this meant I could get this shot of the station ÖÖ.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-020818194920-678031879.jpeg)

I am still a bit hit and miss with photographs at this close range, so as it is my birthday in a couple of weeks, no railway stuff, I will treat myself to a proper camera  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 03, 2018, 07:29:08 AM
Many thanks, Keith, for another excellent set of photos. I can't imagine how your pictures will be with a new camera as your current photos. are superb.

I like your idea of making temporary scenic sections. I'd like to do that with the River Camel estuary along the front of my layout as it will make for better pictures.

The GWR 'Toad' brake vans are such iconic vehicles.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 03, 2018, 07:41:19 AM
Very cunning idea with the false front Kevin. It works very well and avoids ďmodel edgeĒ syndrome.  :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 03, 2018, 08:44:41 AM
Good morning all  :D

Thanks guys, but the "false front" idea was not mine Ö a trick from Roger whose photos of Wrenton are awesome  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 03, 2018, 10:10:25 AM
Good morning all  :D

Thanks guys, but the "false front" idea was not mine Ö a trick from Roger whose photos of Wrenton are awesome  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Ah, yes, of course.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: 25901JFM on August 03, 2018, 04:46:53 PM
Passenger stock for the boat trains was pulled by Pannier tanks which I have, and I even have a pic of an Ivatt 2mt "Mickey Mouse" here. Later it was bigger diesels, that I don't know anything about so can't identify them. Also 03, 04, and 08 shunters.

I believe the 08 is quite wide, so I did not get one of those, as in such a small space I have to be very careful with clearances. I must admit as well, I find them quite ugly  :uneasy:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:


How very dare you Sir!  My favourite diesel shunting device...   :veryangry:   :P

You are correct the improved Farish 08 is a tad wide but is a lovely little model.  I have 5, all in different liveries.  I have a couple of 04's and for such tiny models I find that they run really well as do the 03's.

The diesel shunters took over from steam on the boat trains and in turn gave way to the BRCW Type 3's, later class 33.  Other diesel types have been to the quay on tours; Class 31's, 37's and Class 73 Electro-Diesels have all visited.  There may also be others that I'm not aware of.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 04, 2018, 04:23:52 PM
Hi John,

Thank you for that info.  :thumbsup: I have pictures of the class 33, which had a bloke with a flag walking in front. It also had a box with a light and bell on the front. These were kept in the goods yard at the station, and fixed on when the loco was pulling a train down to the ferry, along the harbour.

Sorry if I upset you about the 08  ::) I thought I may upset more people as they do have a lot of fans (weird  :P ) I just think they look like boxes on wheels :D

With all best wishes ..... have a good weekend !

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 04, 2018, 04:55:53 PM
Hi All,

Just did my last bit of "faffing about" and fixed in this cyclist just arriving at the pub. As usual for me, she has been tacky waxed in place for ages, and I am now happy for her to stay.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-040818163918-678062216.jpeg)

This farmer with the horse & cart is still not fixed yet, as he keeps getting in the way when I take photos  >:(

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-040818184412-678301766.jpeg)

Next step is to wait for another Toad brake van to arrive from Osborne's, and then send everything off for weathering, and when it all comes back take some new pics with the new camera I hope to get  :D :camera: :D

All the best
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 04, 2018, 05:56:32 PM
Excellent news and two more superb photos., Kevin. Many thanks.

I had forgotten that Class 31s had ventured along Weymouth Quay. A Class 04 with a rake of BR SR green coaches will, however, look perfect. 8-)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 05, 2018, 09:30:20 PM
Hi All,

hope you all had.... and are still having a good weekend  :D

Now windmill hill is finished, taking inspiration from Roger, who I get a lot of inspiration from  :thumbsup:  I am compiling an couple of albums. one of the completed layout, with weathered locos, no baseboard edges etc... ie "realistic" photos

One I am compiling now though is a "step by step" construction album using photos I have taken along the way...… and I have got as  far as the cover.  ;)

Here it is, although that is not the final pic, I wll re-shoot it in daylight, I was just trying to find a good composition. I quite like this, although am not sure about the lamp post

Any thoughts, or does anyone know how to photoshop it out please ?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-050818223054-67867821.jpeg)

All best wishes
kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on August 05, 2018, 10:13:33 PM
Not being computer savvy I can't help with the lamp post, Kevin, but you might want to correct the spelling of 'miniature' ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 05, 2018, 10:37:20 PM
 :thankyousign:

Cheers Mick ÖÖ. thanks for that.

All fixed  :thumbsup:

All the best
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on August 05, 2018, 11:25:20 PM
Come on - we all know how to spell miniature, it's  t i n y  ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Lazy-Ferret on August 05, 2018, 11:28:55 PM
Hi All,

hope you all had.... and are still having a good weekend  :D

Now windmill hill is finished, taking inspiration from Roger, who I get a lot of inspiration from  :thumbsup:  I am compiling an couple of albums. one of the completed layout, with weathered locos, no baseboard edges etc... ie "realistic" photos

One I am compiling now though is a "step by step" construction album using photos I have taken along the way...Ö and I have got as  far as the cover.  ;)

Here it is, although that is not the final pic, I wll re-shoot it in daylight, I was just trying to find a good composition. I quite like this, although am not sure about the lamp post

Any thoughts, or does anyone know how to photoshop it out please ?

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-050818223054-67867821.jpeg[/url])

All best wishes
kevin

 :beers:


Hows this??

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5179-050818232844.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67869)

If you send me the original one, I can do a better job, as it should be a higher resolution.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on August 05, 2018, 11:31:21 PM
Brilliantly done! :thumbsup: Which programme did you use @Lazy-Ferret (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5179) if you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Lazy-Ferret on August 05, 2018, 11:39:24 PM
Brilliantly done! :thumbsup: Which programme did you use @Lazy-Ferret ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5179[/url]) if you don't mind me asking?

Thank You,

No problem, it is Corel Paintshop Pro X7. I think there are several newer versions, but it is quite expensive to buy, so we stick with the one we have. It works for the simple stuff I want to use it for.

That was done using the clone brush to replicate other bits surrounding the post.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: bob lawrence on August 05, 2018, 11:48:16 PM
Sorry but I think you should stay with the subject topic i.e.
                               ĎWindmill Hill
                            A busy little layout
                         in a compact little caseí
Says what it is on the tin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 06, 2018, 01:21:45 AM
 :thankyousign:  :NGF:  :thankyousign:

That is terrific lazy ferret. Thank you so much for that, and also thank you for all your support while the layout has been progressing. It really is appreciated.

I looked at the download you used, and there is a free 30 day trial. I may explore that, but if not, when I get a better photo, your help again would be fabulous. I think the photo looks better without the lamp  :thumbsup:

Thank you also Bob. You are right, as I do like the title of this topic. It flows nicely but I was not sure how it would come across to non railway people. Here are another couple of tries.... the second I prefer as it keeps the flow of the original

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-060818010353-6786842.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on August 06, 2018, 07:02:23 AM
I think I prefer the top one Kevin.
How about changing the word little for model?
Though of course itís always been a busy little railway right through.
Anyway, either would work fine....now Iím rambling.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on August 06, 2018, 07:07:10 AM
No you're not, mate.

"A busy model railway in a compact little case" sounds good and gets rid of the duplication of the word "little."
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on August 06, 2018, 07:07:49 AM
I think I prefer the top one Kevin.
I agree
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: bob lawrence on August 06, 2018, 07:17:33 AM
I like the top one as well even though it repeats little, it just flows and says whatís inside, itís a bit more than just a model, IMHO
The layout is called ĎWindmill Hillí not Windmill Hill Railway.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 06, 2018, 07:33:17 AM
The top one, maybe with PPís suggested change, (not a ramble at all).

I like the idea of the album  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 08, 2018, 09:10:03 PM
Hi All,

Thank you for all your replies, and yes, the first one will be used for the title. :thumbsup:

There is a slight change in plan though. I really could not get to grips with working the format in Word, so after a bit of research I found this Ö..

https://www.vistaprint.co.uk/photo-gifts/photo-books?txi=15097&xnid=AllProductsPage_Photo+Flip+Books+(linked+item)_Photo+Gifts_All+Products&xnav=AllProductsPage (https://www.vistaprint.co.uk/photo-gifts/photo-books?txi=15097&xnid=AllProductsPage_Photo+Flip+Books+(linked+item)_Photo+Gifts_All+Products&xnav=AllProductsPage)

Over the last couple of days I have started compiling an album detailing the whole "Windmill Hill" build, including preparing the case.

So far I have used 68 annotated photos, with text describing the build process  :goggleeyes:

Taking a break now, as I am spending 3 days camping with friends at a music festival, so will get back to it when I return.  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

PS, Hi Chris, another Toad brake van arrived today, so I can have 2 goods trains now if I like.

All
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: themadhippy on August 08, 2018, 09:28:10 PM
Quote
Taking a break now, as I am spending 3 days camping with friends at a music festival,
are you meeting on a ledge or will blood be flowing?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 08, 2018, 09:32:44 PM
I look forward to seeing your second "Toad" brake van, in due course, Kevin. I hope that it is not identical with the first?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 08, 2018, 10:38:50 PM
Hi Mad Hippy,

That was a bit cryptic  ;) I got the Vampires stock cupboard ref, but not the other one  :D :dunce: :D

We are going to what sounds like a convention of foot doctors  :hmmm:

Ooops  Chris, as both locos are GWR, they are the same...Ö did I do wrong ?
Hopefully different weathering will help, and the guards will be in different positions.

I have one like this.....should I use it instead ?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/5755-080818223557-679742138.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
 
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on August 08, 2018, 10:50:10 PM
Hi Kevin,

Hope you enjoy your break. Sounds like a labour of love or a pain in the irse (that'll fool'em)  :D.

If you're going to Boomtown and you meet a troubled Australian girl from Adelaide called Emma who works in a pub in Surrey, please look after her. She's never been camping before, never been to a festival before and can't hold her drink.
 
She will be with friends but I see tears on the horizon.

Have fun wherever you are and what can I say except have at least 10 proper ciders for me in the smelly tent.

Cheers weave  :beers: +  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 08, 2018, 10:59:58 PM
 :D  ::)  :D

"Never been camping ….. never been to a festival ……. can't hold her drink"

What could possibly go wrong !

 :P

We're going to Fairport Convention's Cropredy festival, and yes there will be proper cider with lumps in

  :laugh3: :claphappy: :laugh3:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: themadhippy on August 08, 2018, 11:32:57 PM
Quote
We're going to Fairport Convention's Cropredy festival
so your on the ledge
if you happen to find yerself in  the brasenosev arms  back garden
( theres a  good thrash folk band on  saturday 2-4 pm

 and a good blues rock band 4-6pm, again saturday

)
try an take  sneek "backstage" and you might see me sleeping trying to look busy.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 09, 2018, 12:37:39 AM

 :doh: just clicked Ö.. meet on the ledge was a Fairport Convention track   :doh:

see you there !

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on August 09, 2018, 07:15:24 AM

 :doh: just clicked Ö.. meet on the ledge was a Fairport Convention track   :doh:

see you there !

 :beers:
And a great track.
Enjoy your time at the festival. Iím quite envious.
I always thought that Fairportís excellent Liege & Lief albums was one of the all time greats.
Enjoy.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 09, 2018, 07:16:41 AM
The vistaprint albums are excellent. Mrs Keith uses them as holiday albums.
Enjoy the festival, hope that it stays dry (weather wise).
Mmmm cider with lumps, brings back distant memories of a summer working in south Devon  :no:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on August 09, 2018, 07:59:53 AM
Hi Kevin,

Will stop doing a festival - layout hijack soon but I see The Levellers are playing. Have seen them about 30 times but just a top tip about lumpy cider and jumping up and down to the Levellers.

It was Glastonbury many years ago in hot sun after being at the Somerset Cider Bus all day so, shall we say, 'something had to give'  :D.

 Luckily orally  ;)

Have a great time and hope the weather clears up a bit.

Typical. Too hot or too wet  :doh:.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 09, 2018, 08:59:29 AM
Good morning Kevin,

Thanks for your reply:

"Ooops Chris, as both locos are GWR, they are the same...Ö did I do wrong?
Hopefully, different weathering will help, and the guards will be in different positions.

I have one like this.....should I use it instead?

All best wishes
Kevin"

No, it's not a problem, Kevin. They should be GWR but one could be more weathered than the other. They could also 'belong' to different locations as they have their 'home station' in white on a black panel on the sides.

The other van is, really, an SR rather than LMSR one so I would not use that one.

Enjoy the festival. Hope the weather stays fine.

As for poor Emma . . .
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 13, 2018, 12:28:09 PM
 :hellosign:

Rounding up the festival bits, we arrived back safe and sound, and had a fabulous time  :claphappy: :laugh3: :claphappy:

Despite the wet weather (yesterday was spent manning the washing machine and tumble dryer  :( ) we saw some fantastic bands on the festival site, and also off festival where I met the mad hippy, who was doing an awesome job with the sound for bands playing a pub venue.

Back to railways,  :thumbsup:

Thanks Chris for clearing the break van up. I will use both GWR ones, weathered to look different, and may change the board saying where they are from on one.

The album of the build is coming on well. It's a shame I can't show you, but I suppose Vistaprint don't want you planning the layout and text with them, and printing it yourself . :no:

Anyway Ö. will keep you in touch

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on August 13, 2018, 12:51:12 PM
Hi Kevin,

Will stop doing a festival - layout hijack soon but I see The Levellers are playing. Have seen them about 30 times but just a top tip about lumpy cider and jumping up and down to the Levellers.

It was Glastonbury many years ago in hot sun after being at the Somerset Cider Bus all day so, shall we say, 'something had to give'  :D.

 Luckily orally  ;)

Have a great time and hope the weather clears up a bit.

Typical. Too hot or too wet  :doh:.

Cheers weave  :beers:
That Cider Bus at Glastonbury is always a big  hit.
A few ciders and itís oh, letís not bother with the bands letís just stay here.

Glad you had a great time at the festival Kevin. Iím getting too old to traipse around the country sleeping in tents. We stick to one just 2 miles down the road that we can walk to.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 13, 2018, 01:02:47 PM

Too old Martin ÖÖ. nonsense ÖÖ. I will be 60 tomorrow, and was the youngest of the five of us that went  :D :D :D

Hopefully some birthday cash will be arriving, which will go to a good camera. The man at the camera shop has one made by wizards. It has magic insides that do the layering that gives Roger such awesome photos ;D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on August 13, 2018, 05:02:45 PM

Too old Martin ÖÖ. nonsense ÖÖ. I will be 60 tomorrow, and was the youngest of the five of us that went  :D :D :D

Hopefully some birthday cash will be arriving, which will go to a good camera. The man at the camera shop has one made by wizards. It has magic insides that do the layering that gives Roger such awesome photos ;D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Happy Birthday for tomorrow.
Amd I take your point. Plenty of 60 and 70 year olds attend festivals these days. I shall re - evaluate.  :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on August 13, 2018, 08:47:53 PM
Happy birthday for tomorrow too. Let's hope there's a heavy shower of pennies from Heaven. :camera:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on August 13, 2018, 09:34:14 PM
Happy Birthday for tomorrow Kevin.  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 13, 2018, 09:55:18 PM
Happy Birthday for tomorrow Kevin.  :beers:

Happy Birthday for tomorrow, Kevin, from me, too. I have so much enjoyed your layout. I can't wait for the next one. 8-)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: rogerdB on August 14, 2018, 11:10:01 AM
Happy Birthday Kevin! Hope you get a really good camera to complement your really good layout. I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do with it.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on August 14, 2018, 11:19:42 AM
Happy Birthday from Australia, mate!  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on August 14, 2018, 11:31:05 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY KEVIN,

Weather has improved today in 'ampshire and think so too in Dorset.

Hopefully all the grockles might go somewhere and leave important pub seating areas for the professionals  :D

Have a great day whatever you do.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on August 14, 2018, 07:31:25 PM
Happy Birthday Kevin, hope you had a great day and got the camera you wanted :)

As mere younglings at 50, we did BBC Big Weekend at Scone Palace in June.  The Friday was cultured, Eddie Reader, Evelyn Gleny, Nigel Kennedy, the Saturday was carnage (the shortest queue was the Pimms tent.... say no more) Noel Galagher/Simple Minds/Amy McDonald.. but excellent 2 days. 

We also went to Cambridge to see a-Ha/Thompson Twins/OMD at Cambridge United ground also in June ... nothing quite like live music :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on August 14, 2018, 07:37:21 PM
Happy Birthday, Kevin.  Life begins at 60!

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on August 14, 2018, 07:55:53 PM
Happy Birthday Kevin, hope you had a great day and got the camera you wanted :)

As mere younglings at 50, we did BBC Big Weekend at Scone Palace in June.  The Friday was cultured, Eddie Reader, Evelyn Gleny, Nigel Kennedy, the Saturday was carnage (the shortest queue was the Pimms tent.... say no more) Noel Galagher/Simple Minds/Amy McDonald.. but excellent 2 days. 

We also went to Cambridge to see a-Ha/Thompson Twins/OMD at Cambridge United ground also in June ... nothing quite like live music :)

Was Liam in the Pimms tent?  :D

I like Amy McDonald.

Hope you're day's still rockin' Kevin!!!

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 14, 2018, 09:30:54 PM
Eddie Reader, Nigel Kennedy, Simple Minds, Amy McDonald, a-Ha, the Thompson Twins ("Into the Gap: album plus 12'' mixes is one of my all-time favourites), and OMD would have been my choices. 8-)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on August 14, 2018, 09:33:18 PM
Happy Birthday, Kevin (from someone who'd probably prefer to be seen in the mosh pit as long as there were mattresses scattered on the ground :-[)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 15, 2018, 08:01:52 AM
Happy birthday Kevin, so young!

Hope that the camera 📷 meets expectations, look forward to seeing photos of your harbour scene!  ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 15, 2018, 02:40:44 PM
 :hellosign:  :thankyousign:  :hellosign:


Thank you all so much for your Birthday wishes.... I had a lovely day Ö..plenty of fun and frolics

 :beers:  :laugh3:  :beers:

all best wishes
Kevin
 :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 18, 2018, 01:13:26 PM
Hi All,

Well it was a bigger task than I thought, but using Vistaprint, not as complicated  :thumbsup:

I have now put together a complete step by step history of the building of "Windmill Hill"  :claphappy:

There are 231 captioned photographs over 60 pages :o but I am sorry I can't show you any of it as it is trapped in Vistaprint's web.  :(

I will get it printed next week, so can show you then. I can however put up some new photos, and will do so later.

On the new camera front, pennies did arrive  :D :D :D It still takes an age for cheques to clear, and as soon as a couple do, I can get a new camera, and take scenic pictures for an accompanying album

Then onwards and upwards planning "Harbourside"  ;)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 21, 2018, 01:04:46 AM
Hi All,

Hope you all had a good weekend  :D

All being well, the "How I built it" album should  be here tomorrow Ö It has cost a bit more than expected, as it seemed to grow and grow. Vistaprint would only allow me 40 pages, but I needed 62 to get everything in (over 230 photos) so I have had to split the printing in two, and hope I will be able  to combine them.

Anyway, enough of that Ö.. here are some new photos  :camera:

First off, the completed layout....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-210818005016-683181621.jpeg)

Horse power vs Steam power

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-210818004537-683121589.jpeg)

Another view of the station from the stables Ö..

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-210818004555-683152322.jpeg)

The Terrier takes an unscheduled stop for the driver to invite the Windmill girls for a drink at "The Swan"

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-210818004733-68316614.jpeg)

And Cider John carefully negotiates the steps home

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-210818004744-683172131.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on August 21, 2018, 01:11:19 AM
I have just one word to say to you Sir - brilliant!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on August 21, 2018, 05:26:22 AM
What a journey! Thanks Kevin for your brilliantly detailed account of the building of Windmill Hill. It has been both an inspiration, an entertainment, and a master class in design and construction. Your attention to detail and willingness to make changes in search of perfection, often following comments by others, is what sets this micro-layout apart.

Only one word more...

Bravo, sir, bravo! (Okay, so that's three words, but ...... :) )

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :beers: :beers:
 :wonderfulmodelling: :greatwork: :superblayout: :jealous:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 21, 2018, 07:25:51 AM
Excellent Kevin,  :thankyousign:  :greatpicturessign:  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on August 21, 2018, 07:38:02 AM
I have said it before but I repeat again.
Fantastic work and so inspirational.
Iím looking forward to your new project .
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: mika on August 21, 2018, 08:57:56 AM
Lovely pics of a lovely layout, Kevin.
Well done.

Best,
Michael
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 21, 2018, 09:15:49 AM
Simply superb in every respect. Many thanks for this inspirational layout and series of posts, Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on August 21, 2018, 09:53:50 AM
How on earth did you get Laurence @Innovationgame (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091) to pose for the 5th photo? :goggleeyes: ;D
Just superb.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on August 21, 2018, 09:56:16 AM
How on earth did you get Laurence @Innovationgame ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091[/url]) to pose for the 5th photo? :goggleeyes: ;D
Just superb.
It was my bruvver ... honest!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 21, 2018, 03:58:49 PM
Hi All,

Many thanks for all your kind comments Ö.. Didn't know you had a brother in a windmill Laurence  :D

To stop me fiddling (take note Martin  :D ;D :D) I have been messing around with some photos, and here are the results...Ö

I tried this on some non-train photos, but they did not look so good as these ones, which I am quite pleased with  ;)

Hope you like them.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-210818154638-68319337.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-210818154648-683381152.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-210818154727-683391545.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-210818154736-683391805.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-210818154825-683411985.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-210818154838-68341599.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-210818154910-683431003.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on August 21, 2018, 04:09:58 PM
Those are superb photos Kevin.
I think B&W works really well and I think the second picture  in particular really looks the bees knees.
I did fiddle this morning, in fact, I added an additional signal in the cutting but this afternoon has been spent on the allotment so thatís helped.
I may be inspired to try some B&W photos myself later if I can drag myself away from the cricket.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on August 21, 2018, 07:02:15 PM
Lovely slightly sepia tones.  :thumbsup:

Reminds me of the good old days when everything was in black and white and 405 lines. :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 22, 2018, 01:36:13 PM
Cheers guys,

Glad you like the sepia in the photos Mike. Straight black and white looked a bit stark in these photos, but introducing some sepia tones gave the pictures a bit more warmth. There was also a "vignette" filter I tried, which darkened the corners. :thumbsup:

Love your photos Martin, There is so much to see on your layout, and it is all awesome  :D Good luck with the exhibitions, I hope all goes well Ö. I'm sure it will  :D :D :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 26, 2018, 08:03:01 PM
 :hellosign: :hellosign:

Hi All,

Hope your weekend is going well Ö.. wet and windy here at the sea-side  :thumbsdown:

Flippin' 'eck Ö.. I'm getting bogged down here with words and pictures. I got the first copy of the "how I built it" book of Windmill Hill back last week, and as you can guess, loads of changes to make :worried:  :hmmm:  :worried:

Some of the pictures printed a but dark, but that's not a problem to fix, trouble is every time I read through it, I find better ways to phrase things, better order of photos, 'till my head is spinning  :confused1: :confused1: :confused1:

It's a bit like modelling.... when you get too tired and your eyes glaze over (tired, or whisky kicking in  :-[ ) walk away and take a break  :thumbsup:

Anyway, at over 60 pages and over 230 photos, that's it Ö. Done  :claphappy:

This is the draft

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-260818192621-684571133.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-260818192744-68467822.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-260818192806-684681829.jpeg)

The photo of the front is a bit hazy as it has a translucent plastic protective cover.

Tomorrow I can order copies of the final product, although what's the betting I will still find things to change ÖÖ.. just like a layout  :D ;) :D

I also designed a mug, to arrive next week, and will let you know how that looks when I get it  :thumbsup:

A thought I had was a little competition to win a book and mug set...

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:


Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on August 26, 2018, 08:09:08 PM
That book is a splendid idea Kevin.
Itíll be like the layout....eventually you have to leave it alone and go with it.

And the idea of a competition is a great one.
Now.........whatís the question?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on August 26, 2018, 08:38:29 PM
And the idea of a competition is a great one.
Now.........whatís the question?

That's the competition :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 26, 2018, 10:09:53 PM
Ha.....

I did momentarily think of asking what would be a good question, 'till the penny dropped  :doh:

I think I will do a comp as a thank you to all who helped me get this far.  :D

One set for those here, another set for those abroardÖ.. does that sound fair  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Drakken on August 26, 2018, 11:35:27 PM
Absolutely Stunning, Lost for words  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: themadhippy on August 27, 2018, 12:05:49 AM
Quote
Now.........whatís the question?
No idea,but the answers 42
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 27, 2018, 12:36:27 AM

And I thought the answer to life and stuff was cider ÖÖ Hopefully next time we meet up you won't be working and we can have a few

All the best
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on August 27, 2018, 05:29:08 AM
Kevin

42 does not necessarily mean your answer (cider) is completely wrong...
It may indicate how many of them...
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 27, 2018, 07:35:20 AM
Excellent ideas for the layout, book and competition.  :thankyousign:

Does Hampshire count as abroad?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on August 27, 2018, 03:56:40 PM
Does Hampshire count as abroad?

It does to me. :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: joe cassidy on August 27, 2018, 08:02:39 PM
The Isle of Wight is abroad.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 27, 2018, 11:09:32 PM
Kevin

42 does not necessarily mean your answer (cider) is completely wrong...
It may indicate how many of them...
:thumbsup:
pint or litre thereof ?

ducks
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on August 27, 2018, 11:11:59 PM
Kevin

42 does not necessarily mean your answer (cider) is completely wrong...
It may indicate how many of them...
:thumbsup:
pint or litre thereof ?

ducks

...

With 42 of them... does it really matter?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 27, 2018, 11:22:12 PM
touchť :)

and I hope the Isle of Wight is not abroad and this way comes not !
because there is an older usage of 'abroad' to mean 'out and about' or 'outwith' normal habitats, or being abroad at night :) , , , oh look !
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 28, 2018, 12:41:12 AM

When I first started this adventure, some awesome help came from Australia, Switzerland and Spain.

Living in Weymouth, anywhere north of Dorchester is viewed with suspicion.

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :

Love you all

best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 28, 2018, 08:27:26 AM
And admiration from the Czech Republic (and Cornwall, England lies across the Tamar, I believe). 8-)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on August 28, 2018, 08:47:33 AM

When I first started this adventure, some awesome help came from Australia, Switzerland and Spain.

Living in Weymouth, anywhere north of Dorchester is viewed with suspicion.

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :

Love you all

best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Phew! Iím beyond suspicion then  :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 29, 2018, 03:27:29 PM

 :wave: Hi All  :wave:

Here is the latest …..

Just waiting for mugs, and the albums to arrive. There are 64 pages in the album, but Vistaprint has a max of 40 pages, but I managed to sort this.

The album is in two parts, then I got some larger springs locally, so it was easy to unwind the bindings Vistaprint supplied, and combine the two albums using the bigger springs

Easy Peasy  :D, so yes the comp is on, and details to follow.... any mods, should I start a separate thread for it  :hmmm:

While sorting through some early photos, I found some I didn't think I had any more. They were very very early mock ups, so I thought of taking the same views but now the finished article

The yard tunnel entrance ….

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-290818144610-685342304.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-290818144506-685071091.jpeg)

Train pulling into the station …..

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-290818144851-685372160.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-290818144617-685351523.jpeg)

Yard, signal box and road tunnel ….

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-290818145003-685391867.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-290818144814-685362125.jpeg)

Level crossing, tunnel, and station ….

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-290818145106-68540414.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-290818144958-685381647.jpeg)

These photos may help with the competition  :-X :hmmm: :-X

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

PS No new camera, or railway stuff for a while …. after a visit yesterday from the heating man,I need a new boiler  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(





Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on August 29, 2018, 04:35:45 PM
Global Moderator Comment I'd certainly go for a separate thread for your competition and, if it involves anyone submitting photos, PM Tank or Only Me and ask for a gallery to be set up for you with your choice of title

Sorry to hear about your boiler certificate expiring and hope your steam pipes are heating up again before it gets cold.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on August 29, 2018, 04:43:51 PM
Boiler failure ain't funny - or cheap!

Sorry for the troubles but at least it's not October and minus 5 degrees.

Good luck!

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 29, 2018, 04:49:51 PM

cheers  :D

Getting quote round the £1300 -£1400 mark  :o

No new camera, trains, cider or food for a bit ÖÖ well maybe cider :D :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on August 29, 2018, 08:21:05 PM


Getting quote round the £1300 -£1400 mark  :o


Not too bad. I paid that 6 years ago for a new Worcester Bosch with 5 year warranty. 3 months later my Mum got one for the same price with a 10 year warranty ::)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on August 29, 2018, 08:39:59 PM
Hi Kevin

Join the new boiler club.
Our hot water boiler packed up 3 weeks ago.
Cost us 1400.00 for a replacement. Ours is LPG (no mains gas here) and we fell foul of new gas regs as well.
However, we now have a much more efficient system filling the bath in a few mins rather than 15 mins before. And its much hotter too.
Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet.

Martin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 29, 2018, 09:01:24 PM
Ouch! Living in a flat with a central hot water system (piped from a district boiler house) that's not something I have to worry about.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 03, 2018, 10:03:22 PM
Hi All,

I did promise myself  :no: NO FIDDLING  :no: but that didn't last long !

Due to a recent big expense suddenly occurring, no new camera, and no railway stuff for the new layout, so I did do a little bit of fiddling  :-[

After a big clean and tidy up, I added a car unobtrusively coming out from the station access road Ö.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-030918203442-68669450.jpeg)

I am not sure (or particularly worried ;) ) if the era is correct, but I have always liked these little cars, and they always make me smile as I remember a trip to Stratford-on-Avon. The tour guide was talking about Shakespeare's half timbered house, and one of these went by. Quick as a flash the guide pointed it out as a half-timbered car "very much like the one Shakespeare himself would have driven "  :D :D :D

I also tidied up the area the girls are washing the camper van in. This was it before Ö

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-270518145024-6577157.jpeg)

The van windows were very dirty from oversprays of varnish, scenic cement etc etc, and considering the van is being washed, they should be clean, so I bought a new van from Hattons and replaced the dirty one Ö.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-030918203908-68671325.jpeg)

Also something has been bugging me about the windmill, but I just could not figure out what it was. Then a friend came round Saturday, and spotted it straight away. This shows how useful it is getting someone else's point of view. (As long as you act on it  :D)

The windmill sails were turning in the wrong direction  :dunce:

A quick visit to the electrics soon sorted it. I tipped the layout on its back and took the bottom off Ö.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-030918203449-68670723.jpeg)

Then a quick swap over of the yellow and green wires from the battery and hey presto ! problem solved  :thumbsup:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-030918203352-68624903.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

PS.  Anyone entering the "How many little people are there" competition, this is the week to do it  :D

Details here ..http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=42428.msg525625#msg525625 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=42428.msg525625#msg525625)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on September 03, 2018, 10:16:38 PM
The tidying up of the area round the camper van has meant we can see things more clearly now. (I mean the camper van of course  ;)).
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 03, 2018, 11:25:36 PM
 :wave:

Hi David,

If you're counting the figures at work tonight, you're not supposed to keep counting the same two

 :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on September 04, 2018, 06:46:05 AM
After a big clean and tidy up, I added a car unobtrusively coming out from the station access road Ö.
I am not sure (or particularly worried ;) ) if the era is correct, but I have always liked these little cars, and they always make me smile as I remember a trip to Stratford-on-Avon. The tour guide was talking about Shakespeare's half timbered house, and one of these went by. Quick as a flash the guide pointed it out as a half-timbered car "very much like the one Shakespeare himself would have driven "  :D :D :D
The Morris travellers first appeared in the late 1950s and went on until the early 1970s.  Of course, they would have still been seen on the roads after that, but the wood did harbour rust which caused the bodywork to have a shorter life than most.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: javlinfaw7 on September 04, 2018, 08:51:24 AM
The Morris Minor Traveller was in production with minor modifications from 1952 to 1971,the Ash framing was structural so quite a few succumbed to wood rot ,but as steel panels were produced in Sri Lanka ,a substantial cottage industry in Britian producing wooden parts and mechanical units from the Marina/Ital mainly being compatable means it has become a popular classic not to rare even today

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/1970-040918085112.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68673)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 04, 2018, 03:06:55 PM
Many thanks for that guys,

Windmill Hill is vaguely set in the fifties, so date wise it seems it is in the right era. It is such an iconic little car   ;)

From those dates though, I think the guide may have been telling porkys about Shakespeare driving one  :D :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 06, 2018, 10:49:43 PM
Hi All,

I did a bit of organizing today. 3 locos, an autocoach, and 9 assorted goods wagons fit in the storage container, as well as the controller and power supply/battery charger. This is now held in the case lid by 1" wide elastic loops.

Now "windmill Hill" is truly self contained in it's case, with enough stock to run passenger or goods trains, and everything there to control things with or without access to mains power  :D :D :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-060918224112-68736330.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-060918224147-687462306.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-060918224311-68747714.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-060918224352-687482272.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on September 06, 2018, 11:07:11 PM
Neat and clever!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on September 06, 2018, 11:12:44 PM
Definitely a cool way to store and transport a layout.
Well "few" layouts can be transported in such a self contained box...

This is first class engineering  :claphappy: :claphappy: :claphappy:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on September 07, 2018, 08:12:29 AM
Looks a brilliant job!  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 07, 2018, 08:37:27 AM
Very impressive. First class work all round. 8-)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on September 08, 2018, 07:36:19 AM
Truly self contained and portable! Pukka job  :thumbsup:  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 08, 2018, 03:19:56 PM
Truly self contained and portable! Pukka job  :thumbsup:  :beers:

Heartily seconded!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 17, 2018, 07:45:12 AM
 :hellosign:

Morning all, hope everyone had a good weekend.

Yay …Windmill Hill has a video  :D :D :D

I spent the weekend trying to get my head round what to me is wizardry, but eventually I came up with just over a 100 seconds of video that I am fairly happy with, although the pictures fly past at a fair speed.  :o

for a first try, I don't think it came out too bad  ;)  I hope this link works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t84Fyoi8IEk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t84Fyoi8IEk)

This week I will see if I can get some film of trains moving  :hmmm:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on September 17, 2018, 07:49:09 AM
Hi Kevin, there is something wrong with the link - I get Leonard Cohen!  :(
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on September 17, 2018, 07:58:56 AM
It's fine here - and great! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 17, 2018, 08:01:23 AM
 :-[ :-[ oops   :-[ :-[

He was good though  ;)

Sorry about that, When I checked the link I saw that as well ÖÖ.. all fixed now though  :thumbsup:

All the best,
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on September 17, 2018, 08:13:35 AM
Thatís lovely.
I still remain amazed at the detail that you have created in such a small space.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on September 17, 2018, 08:49:20 AM
Hi Kevin,

Really good although I found myself counting the people again  :doh:.

Looking forward to the moving trains.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 17, 2018, 09:30:26 AM
The link works fine for me. A superb video of a superb layout.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: GreyWolf on September 17, 2018, 12:08:30 PM
Hang on I'm still counting these ...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/5843-170918120700.png) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=69157)

Excellent vid and  :greatpicturessign:  :wonderfulmodelling: :jealous:

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 17, 2018, 01:02:18 PM
Hi All,

Glad you like my first video.  :thumbsup:

As the recent big bills ( New boiler, and front door and frame taken out and new UPVC door and frame put in  :'( ) have stopped me from getting any stuff for my next layout, I'm messing about with photos now.

Here's a couple I took this morning, trying out a different format (widescreen).

They are actually new photos of scenes I have taken before. That's the trouble with a tiny layout ….. there's only so much you can photograph without repeating yourself  ;)

Horse power vs steam power …..

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/5755-170918124140-69158725.jpeg)

Someone who is definitely not Laurence  :no:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/5755-170918124134-691061838.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 17, 2018, 03:18:34 PM
Hello Again  :wave:

looking through the video again, apart from the short time each photo stays up for, another criticism is there are not many photos of the station, but loads of the signal box / yard. Also, there are more photos without trains than with :( :doh: :worried:

So here is one I took just now, with a train, and the station  :claphappy:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/5755-170918150352-69159655.jpeg)

Using Roger's tips of adding extra sky and ground boards, I got this shot I've not been able to take before, so many thanks Roger, your photos are something to aspire to  :thankyousign: (as is your modelling  :thumbsup:)

This is taken looking down the whole length of the layout..... all 20 inches of it  :D :D

I have promised myself not to take any more photos unless there is a train there  ;)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: rogerdB on September 17, 2018, 04:06:18 PM
Using Roger's tips of adding extra sky and ground boards, I got this shot I've not been able to take before, so many thanks Roger, your photos are something to aspire to.

Thank you, and that's a very nice photo, Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on September 17, 2018, 06:51:36 PM
A lovely set of photos put together. You could have another competition, Where does the next photo come from? Top, bottom, left,right.......! :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on September 17, 2018, 08:32:21 PM

Horse power vs steam power Ö..

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/5755-170918124140-69158725.jpeg[/url])


Great photographs, Kevin, thank you.  That's a lovely grey.  Where did you get the horses, please?

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 17, 2018, 10:08:35 PM
Hi John,

Hope you and Poppy had a good weekend Ö. loving how your layout is progressing. It's bringing back a lot of memories of old train sets from my youth  :thumbsup:  :D  :thumbsup:

I bought the horses with the idea of having a small gymkhana, with a couple of jumps in front of the stable. There was just enough room, but it looked far too cramped.

Anyway it is early evening on Windmill Hill, the horses are going inside now Ö..

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/5755-170918214615-69160524.jpeg)

These are the type of horses, from Noch, who along with Preiser are my favourite brands of figures.

http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=N36630&style=main&strType=&Mcode=Noch+36630 (http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=N36630&style=main&strType=&Mcode=Noch+36630)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on September 18, 2018, 07:17:56 AM
Splendid, Kevin.  Thank you very much indeed.

I'll get this nice little set of figures ordered.

I have promised Poppy several horses for Poppingham.

Thank for your very kind remarks about the layout.  If it is bringing back memories of the train sets of your youth, it is doing exactly what I want it to do.  It's proving harder than I thought.  After 40 years of model railways, rather than train sets, it is all too easy to use materials or techniques that are not appropriate.  Fortunately, some Forum Friends have a clear understanding of what I am attempting to achieve and provide much help and advice which is greatly appreciated.

The next one will be a bit different, though.

Thanks again and all best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 18, 2018, 07:55:09 AM
 :hellosign:

Morning all,

After another session with some new photos added, I have come up with a new video. I liked the music on the first one, nice and relaxing, but after hearing it 40 million times it's doing my head in  :o

I managed to work out enough technical bits now to make the photos go a bit slower, so you can actually take them in, and I got the photos with trains in to linger a bit longer  :thumbsup:  :D  :thumbsup:

Anyway, here it is.... just over two and a half mins of Windmill Hill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t84Fyoi8IEk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t84Fyoi8IEk)

All best wishes,
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on September 18, 2018, 08:14:51 AM
Brilliant.
I did a silent little round of applause at the end.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on September 18, 2018, 08:19:03 AM
That's great, Kevin.  :thumbsup:

The slide show has it's own advantages too. While it's always great to see videos, I've said before on the forum that to me, videos reinforce the fact that the only things moving are trains.

People and road vehicles are frozen! For some reason, that always comes to mind no matter how excellent the modelling is.

Great clip of your excellent work, regardless!  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 18, 2018, 08:21:26 AM
 :thankyousign:

cheers Martin Ö.. it is early, and you don't want to wake the rest of the house up  :D

Next I think I will try to get just a bit more info on the captions to say what it is. Nothing flashy though. I don't want to overload it with special effects Ö..because I can't  :-[

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on September 18, 2018, 08:21:33 AM
Some excellent pictures that really show off the layout.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 18, 2018, 08:31:25 AM
 :thankyousign:

Cheers David, and Cheers Bealman,

That is a great point, something I had really not thought about :hmmm:

You are absolutely right, and thank you for your comments, and support

all the best
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on September 18, 2018, 09:40:18 AM

Anyway, here it is.... just over two and a half mins of Windmill Hill  :claphappy:


2 min 50 of spiritual wellness. a brain spa.

Very nice images of Windmill Hill. This layout seems bigger than the declared dimensions.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 18, 2018, 10:47:41 AM
 :wave: Good Morning Alexander  :wave:

"Brain Spa" ÖÖ. what a lovely expression  :)

What can I say Ö. you have found me out, the layout is really 6ft by 4ft  :P

No, not really, it is tiny. 54cm x 32cm x 22cm high ...honest  ;)

Using a tip Roger passed on, using extra bits of sky and ground avoids showing the layout edges and makes it look bigger

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/5755-180918104020-691631683.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on September 18, 2018, 11:54:23 AM
The mug in front (and I'm not talking about you) really brings this marvelous piece of modelling into perspective.

Thank you!  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on September 18, 2018, 08:29:15 PM
Can't see the video. It says the video has been remove by the owner. :(
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on September 18, 2018, 08:55:35 PM
Can't see the video. It says the video has been remove by the owner. :(
Itís still working for me.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 18, 2018, 08:58:20 PM
 :wave: Hi Mito  :wave:

Sorry about that Ö.. I did a bit off jiggling around with the editing to put another couple of photos in, and a caption saying what scale the layout is, and the size it is.

Here it is again in all it's tiny little detail Ö..

WINDMILL HILL VIDEO LINK BELOW

 :claphappy:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t84Fyoi8IEk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t84Fyoi8IEk)   :claphappy:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: mickster04 on September 19, 2018, 01:06:53 AM




[edit]updated link[/edit]
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 19, 2018, 06:53:41 AM
Can't see the video. It says the video has been remove by the owner. :(
Itís still working for me.

And me.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 19, 2018, 06:54:27 AM
 :hellosign:

Hi Mickster

Thank you so much for putting the link with the picture on, but I'm really sorry I seem to have buggered it all up   :-[ :dunce: :-[

Somehow the thumbnail picture was a transition shot between 2 photos, and when I changed it the video was deleted, when I put it back up it made the links invalid. :doh:

Anyway, this is the video... 2mins 51secs of Windmill Hill, or as Alexander calls it "Brain Spa"   :D :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t84Fyoi8IEk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t84Fyoi8IEk)

Can someone please tell me how to put it up with the picture. I guess it has something to do with the you tube button above the smiley faces, but I have done enough damage pressing buttons I don't understand already  :-[

Many thanks, and sorry Mickster

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on September 19, 2018, 07:03:38 AM
Excellent video Kevin, my brain feels suitably ďspaídĒ.  :thankyousign:  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on September 19, 2018, 08:19:35 AM
That's a superbly spiffing video presentation, Kevin.

Thank you very much.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on September 19, 2018, 09:05:57 PM
Worth waiting for. Absolutely great. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on September 20, 2018, 07:05:14 AM
A great set of photos and the placing of all the scenic pieces so nicely done.

You should be very pleased with the results.  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 20, 2018, 08:42:26 AM
 :hellosign:

Thank you all for your comments on the video. As a first timer it took a bit of getting used to, all the technology of it, but once I got the basics, and got going it was not too difficult to do.

There were loads of different effects, filters, and ways of fading one shot to another, but I kept it simple, as that suited the feel of the layout, as did the music.

It was the video editing thread that gave me the idea of this, and the advice of MJKERR "save everything" is really important Ö.. I lost a few videos by adding last minute changes only to have everything disappear before I found out how to save work.

Anyway, I'm pleased with the end result, and thank you for your kind comments

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on September 20, 2018, 07:33:00 PM
Lovely work on the video Kevin, a great tribute to a fab layout
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 22, 2018, 10:39:47 PM
 :hellosign:

Sometimes you can be so involved in something you don't see silly mistakes right in front of you Ö A friend pointed out earlier today "operated" on the title card was spelt with 2 p's  :-[  :P  :-[

All fixed now  :thumbsup:



All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

PS.  Thanks to mickster04 for showing me how to put up a video with the picture on, not just the link.
 
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 24, 2018, 04:07:40 PM
 :wave: Hi All  :wave:

Sorting through all my pictures for the video, some new ones have been taken, and also some new ones made by zooming in on old photos.

This one is a new photo made like that, and I was surprised the quality has not changed that much  :D

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/5755-240918155053-693571303.jpeg)

I also tried a video. Flippin' 'eck Ö it's only when you try something yourself you realise how difficult it is, and that you may take other peoples efforts for granted.

Massive thanks to everyone who has put videos on here..... your films will now be viewed with a greater sense of awe  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

For better or worse Ö. mainly worse Ö. here is my first unedited and untouched bit of footage. I just thought I would show you that trains actually do run on the layout, not just stand about looking pretty in nice surroundings  :D :D :D :D :D



All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on September 24, 2018, 04:13:10 PM
Not bad at all for a first effort.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on September 24, 2018, 04:31:00 PM
Excellent!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on September 24, 2018, 07:35:55 PM
Great premiere!  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on September 24, 2018, 07:45:06 PM
Excellent indeedy.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on September 24, 2018, 08:52:43 PM
Much better than my efforts. :thumbsup:
Is the time taken to do a circuit about the same as to down a pint? :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 24, 2018, 11:41:38 PM
 :thankyousign:

cheers guys,

I must keep practicing, It's not easy, I think one of the first things I need to get is a little tripod for my camera.... something like this maybe ?

http://www.argos.co.uk/product/7347979http://www.argos.co.uk/product/7347979 (http://www.argos.co.uk/product/7347979http://www.argos.co.uk/product/7347979)

I'm not sure about the time to do a circuit Mito, I will have to get some cider in and check that out...… then let's see how the video turns out  :D :D :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers: :beers: :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on September 25, 2018, 12:26:49 PM
T'aint just the trains. It's the windmill sails turning, too. Great stuff.
By heck, but some of the clearances are tight, especially the tunnel mouth and the autocoach :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 08, 2018, 09:45:23 PM
Hi All,

Sorry not to have been very active, but no modelling is going on at the moment, and I have been a bit preoccupied with other stuff at the moment  :(

Thank you for your comments re the last video. Yes Mick, there are some REALLY tight clearances with that autocoach  :worried: literally a hair's breath in some cases, but I don't think I will have anything fatter going round .... least I hope not !

Anyhow, using Paul's questions about a loco to go round tight curves gave me an excuse to have another go at a video... with a bit of editing :o

It really hurt my brain trying to get this together, but I hope you don't mind me posting it again as it shows Windmill Hill from a different angle.



A totally different feel to the relaxing "brain spa" of the scenic views....more of a "brain fart" here  :D

While faffing about doing not much, I tried to get some night shots..... not very good, but you might like to see them  ;)

What do you fancy ..... A midnight swim ?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/5755-081018213826-698912066.jpeg)

Waiting for the last train home ?  (I think it must have just gone judging by the 2 passengers just got off)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/5755-081018213745-698812042.jpeg)

Or a cosy night in the pub ?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/5755-081018213820-698902131.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:





Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on October 08, 2018, 09:52:34 PM
Your night shots have come out really well.

I like having lights on the layout as it gives another view of the design and adds a different atmosphere to the usual daylight scenes.

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on October 08, 2018, 10:40:57 PM
Excellent night shots. :thumbsup:

And filing off the central wheel flanges is a great idea to give smooth running on that tight oval.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on October 08, 2018, 11:23:56 PM
:hellosign:

for a first try, I don't think it came out too bad  ;)  I hope this link works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t84Fyoi8IEk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t84Fyoi8IEk)


Video works fine for me - just tried it!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on October 09, 2018, 07:11:31 AM
 :greatpicturessign:  :thankyousign:  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on October 09, 2018, 08:05:16 AM
As always, excellent photos and a charming little video.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on October 09, 2018, 12:18:03 PM
The pub at night looks most welcoming and I reckon I could sink a pint or 6 there quite happily :pint:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on October 09, 2018, 08:40:35 PM
The pub at night looks most welcoming and I reckon I could sink a pint or 6 there quite happily :pint:

Wot he said, so long as he's buying :P
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 10, 2018, 08:07:08 AM
Thanks for the videos and excellent night shots, Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 13, 2018, 06:13:59 PM
Hi All,

Glad you liked the photos, Not the best, but as Dave says, lights do give an added feature to a layout that results in photos with a completely different atmosphere to that of trains running through nice countryside.

I have seen some fantastic photos of busy yards at night, And Martin has put up some great photos of his layout at night  :thumbsup:

Thanks for your comments about the pub ..... very cosy, if anyone wants to join Me, Mick and Mito for a pint  you're very welcome  :beers:

Might be fun to put up pictures of all our pubs, and plan a fantasy pub crawl   :D

Anyway, on Windmill Hill, I decided to do something really stupid, resulting in this ...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/70/5755-131018180943-70006554.jpeg)

 :dunce: :-[ :dunce: :-[  :dunce:

Will put up some pics when the bleeding stops and I finish what I foolishly started :doh:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on October 13, 2018, 07:08:46 PM
 Ouch. Get well soon! Hacksaw? Stanley knife?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 13, 2018, 07:51:59 PM
Seconded. Very sorry to see that. I hope that your hand heals fully, quickly.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on October 13, 2018, 08:33:41 PM
That looks like it might have hurt a bit!  :doh:

A limited consolation is that you've got the other hand which hopefully can still hold a pint.  :beers:

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on October 13, 2018, 08:59:02 PM
A pint? A pint? Where's the fun in that? Think of the poor landlord's takings if nothing else. (Hope the hand is not your pint holding hand :worried:)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on October 13, 2018, 09:23:07 PM
Now you see why we told you not to touch thy layout anymore  :laugh3:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 13, 2018, 10:42:39 PM
Thanks Guys,

Yes Darrwest  Had a bit of an Oooooppps  moment with a stanley knife, and you're right Alexander, I should have done as I was told   :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Nothing serious, a splash of IPA on the outside, and some Whiskey on the inside, and everything is all better. I'm handling nothing more dangerous than a Hoover and a bottle of Whiskey tonight  :D ;D :D

A niggling problem with Windmill Hill is that it is a really tight fit in the case, I made the baseboard a snug fit, but didn't think about the backscene board, fascia board, and switches adding extra all round, so things are a bit tight now all round.

This means that the front of the layout is getting damaged bit by bit taking the layout out, and putting it back in the case  :worried:

Today, as I am fed up with not modelling anything I decided to trim about 5mm off the front of the layout  :o  :goggleeyes:  :o  :goggleeyes:  :o

Apart from my little mishap, all went well though, and it has made a real difference to how the layout fits the case.

Tomorrow I need to tidy up the front edge, and carefully hoover the whole layout.

Photos to follow  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on October 15, 2018, 08:00:55 AM
Ouch, hope that it heals quickly and doesnít cramp your drinking style.

Remember, measure twice and cut once, donít cut! Stop fiddling and get started on the harbour layout.....  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on October 15, 2018, 11:04:59 AM
I hope you recover quickly Kevin.
Take it easy.
I love your idea of a pub crawl Round all of our respective hostelries.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on October 15, 2018, 01:05:57 PM
Hi Kevin,

Thought I'd replied with a 'hope it heals soon and well' comment but obviously forgot  :doh:  :sorrysign:.

I'm more of a slice the side off the end of my finger with a Stanley knife kind o' guy. Each to their own.

As Martin says, the pub crawl sounds good. I'll be in(n) if you drunken herberts don't mind making a ferry crossing  :)

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 15, 2018, 01:10:19 PM
Hi All,

Yes, all healed up. As the Black Knight said .... "  'Tis nothing but a flesh wound."  ;)

Just waiting for the static grass to dry before fixing the fascia, then will put up photos of what I did, which really does make putting the layout in and out of the case less risky at the front.

Unfortunately the  new "Harbourside" is on hold for a couple of months as £2070.00 for a new front door, and boiler has left me stoney broke, so I can't buy what I need to get started   :'(  :(  :'(

However the tradesmen have now been paid, I'm just overdrawn at the bank. I was faffing with Windmill hill 'cos I was bored with not modelling. I could do some housework, sort my little garden out, and get the washing up done, but what's the fun in that  ;)

I am having fun now with videos. I am at present making a "How it all went together" record of Windmill Hill, so keep your eyes peeled for that  :thumbsup:

Hope you had a good weekend....It's been raining here.

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 15, 2018, 01:18:42 PM
Unfortunately the  new "Harbourside" is on hold for a couple of months as £2070.00 for a new front door, and boiler has left me stoney broke

Commiserations!  Cat repairs cost me a similar amount a couple of months back and the resulting No New Toys Austerity will last until early next year :'(
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 15, 2018, 01:32:10 PM
Thanks Steve,

At least your repairs made a good friend better  :thumbsup:  :heart2:  :thumbsup:

Loved the picture in the sink  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on October 15, 2018, 04:55:47 PM
Glad you didn't get too cut up about the hand :sorrysign:
If anyone fancies a trip a little further south there's a good drop of essential liquid to be found here. :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 20, 2018, 07:34:30 PM
 :wave: Hi All  :wave:

"This week, I 'ave been mostly makin' a video ...."   :D

To keep myself out of mischief, I have been getting together all the "building of" photos and putting together a 10 min video of how everything went together to end up with this...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-060918224352-687482272.jpeg)

I tried to keep things simple. There were loads of psycho editing I could have used, but  I stuck to a simple fade between photos, and  a curtains type transition between different phases of the build.

I apologise for the music .... there were only a few tracks to choose from so I did the best I could with what i had  :-[

Also some of the captions fly by a bit fast, and can be a bit hard to see when the white lettering gets on a bit of white background.

Anyway, here it is. For continuity there are a few things out of the order I built them, but I hope you enjoy it.  :D :D :D



All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on October 20, 2018, 07:51:35 PM
Hi Kevin

Just one word for this and that word is ...... stunning.
Itís brilliant. You have taken as much care with the video as you did with the layout and it is a reminder (in a few brief minutes) of the two years or so of work to produce the layout.
It still amazes me that you have included so much detail into such a small space yet nothing looks cramped.
It is truly an inspiration.
Martin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on October 20, 2018, 09:12:46 PM
A wonderful history of a remarkable layout build. You should be proud of it all.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on October 20, 2018, 09:15:31 PM
Stunning is a good word, brilliant is another. I could go on with the superlatives, but as NPN says "You should be proud of it all".  Certainly a very inspirational build.  :thumbsup: :beers:

Forgot to add - the video is well put together too!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on October 20, 2018, 10:08:32 PM
A beautiful layout and an inspiring video! Thank you for taking the time.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Pjlons83 on October 20, 2018, 10:57:15 PM
Great layout, great pics and a great video.  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Buffin on October 20, 2018, 11:08:02 PM
Usually I try just to give a Thank You so as not to clutter threads up, but that video really is superb. Superb in its own right, but also because it's a reminder of how you took us along on the journey of building your layout, so there's an element of nostalgia too. I know if I ever get to see it (N gauge show, perhaps?), I'll have a big smile on my face. 

:greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on October 21, 2018, 08:34:43 AM
Wondrous!  :thumbsup:  :claphappy:

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on October 21, 2018, 08:41:00 AM
Just caught up with this, Kevin. You are indeed a master craftsman, and film maker.

Steven Spielberg look out!  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on October 21, 2018, 09:25:50 AM
 :admiration: :admiration: :admiration: :admiration: :admiration:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 21, 2018, 10:36:02 PM
 :hellosign:

Hi all, thank you so much for your kind comments.

I did enjoy putting together this condensed version of over a years worth of learning (thanks to you guys  :D) being inspired, (also thanks to you lot  :D), and building.

While compiling it, I never thought I would say to myself " 3 seconds ...... that's far too long to be looking at that photo  ;) "

A few friends commented over the weekend that the text on some of the captions was too big, and was obscuring the photos too much, which was right, so i have fixed that. Also I managed to adjust the contrast and brightness of the pictures with white sculptamold  in, so the captions show better.  :thumbsup:

The edited version is now loading onto youtube with about an hour to go. I will update the link then.  :D :thumbsup: :D

Anyway, Steven Spielberg has nothing to worry about yet, and once again thank you so much for your comments. They are very much appreciated.

 :NGF:

all best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 22, 2018, 06:46:28 AM
Morning all,

Just got the slightly edited video of "Building Windmill Hill" up on youtube.

The captions are not so big, and a couple of spelling mistakes that were spotted have been corrected. :thumbsup:

Anyway, here it is ......



all best wishes,
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on October 22, 2018, 08:37:38 AM
Thanks, Kevin.  :thumbsup:

Your attention to everything is inspiring.  :beers:

George
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on October 23, 2018, 06:10:44 AM
Cheers George (I've only just spotted that is your name  :-[)

I put the changes..... although only small ones ...... in response to comments from a few people over the weekend.

Exactly the same as I make changes to the layout. I feel if you ask, or put yourself up for comments, and you don't act on them, it's pointless, or just rude.

I have had lovely reaction to my layout build, but also I am grateful to people on here who are far cleverer than me pointing out what I have one wrong, and I have not been afraid to make changes.

Thank you so much for all your help and encouragement along the way.

You were right there from page one, and here we are at page 67  :D :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 17, 2018, 04:04:58 PM
 :wave: Hi All  :wave:

It seems ages since I posted here, as I thought Windmill Hill was finished, but as lots of people, it seems, have found out, it's only after a while that problems crop up, and I had serious problems with the backscene.  :worried: :( :worried:

More about that later, but I took the backscene off, and started on it again from scratch, which is a lot easier than trying to fix the dodgy one.  ;) While it was off, I tidied up a few of the details ......

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-171218153917-7241359.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-171218153925-724242168.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-171218153921-724221282.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-171218153919-724212004.jpeg)

I also got some new signs. Before Windmill Hill was decided on, the station was "Weston Road", as that is the name of the road I live in, and the layout is Western. However Windmill Hill seems to be the accepted name now, so I thought it was about time I got the proper signs. :D

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-171218153924-724231122.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

PS, All these photos have been resized from between 2500, and some up to 5000+ pixels wide, down to 800 pixels wide to save gallery space.

I don't think the quality has been compromised, and they seem to look ok on my laptop. :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 17, 2018, 04:43:06 PM
Thatís lovely Kevin.
It just keeps getting better.
Now... i need to get to grips with resizing photos on my ipad :doh:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on December 17, 2018, 04:46:25 PM
Great photos, Kevin and exactly what I do when resizing my pictures.  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on December 17, 2018, 09:15:51 PM
Lovely updates Kevin, glad you are still getting fun out of Windmill Hill (maybe not with the backscene though!)

What was the material you used to edge the top of your backscene?  remember Mick using it too ...
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on December 18, 2018, 07:23:04 AM
 :greatpicturessign:  :thankyousign:

(Picture quality is good for me)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 18, 2018, 05:22:07 PM
Hi All,

I am just re-sizing the photos of me re-doing the backscene, but I thought you might like to see some pics from the back, showing sections through the scenery.

Before that, @Milton Rail (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4934)  here is the channel I used to edge the backscene.....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/5755-200518125933-655391497.jpeg)

Which was then painted to blend in with the scenery .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-240618162459-669241054.jpeg)

I got it in 1m lengths, from 4D model shop. Here is the link ....

http://modelshop.co.uk/Shop/Strip-Shape/Item/ASA-channel/ITM5626 (http://modelshop.co.uk/Shop/Strip-Shape/Item/ASA-channel/ITM5626)

Hope this helps Andrew.  :thumbsup:

Here are the "behind the scenes" photos ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170220-72459222.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170219-7242570.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170222-724601523.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170227-724621624.jpeg)

Taking the backscene off was how I managed to get this shot of the bus, which I took a while ago. I really like this photo, even though there are no trains in it  ;D ;D ;D

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170224-724612231.jpeg)

This is my pub, with the access road leading down to a car park at the rear .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170330-72463674.jpeg)

However, as you can see here, the "car park" is pretty non existent ..... maybe room for a bicycle but not much else ......I would not like to be in the back room of the pub when a car hurtles down that hill at speed  :o .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170332-72464151.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:





Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on December 18, 2018, 05:26:29 PM
Nice pictures and thanks for the link.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 18, 2018, 05:35:41 PM
Cheers Laurence,

I have always had good service from https://modelshop.co.uk/ (https://modelshop.co.uk/)

They have a huge range of scenic, and construction bits, and they also do strip and sheet plastics in large sizes, which not many of the railway model shops do.

There is also a huge collection of videos and modelling guides showing how to use various different products. The scenic ones are partucularly useful

http://modelshop.co.uk/Static/Model-Making-Guides (http://modelshop.co.uk/Static/Model-Making-Guides)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Leon on December 18, 2018, 05:44:13 PM
It seems ages since I posted here, as I thought Windmill Hill was finished, but as lots of people, it seems, have found out, it's only after a while that problems crop up, and I had serious problems with the backscene.  :worried: :( :worried:

Kevin, I guess it's been ages since I viewed your thread! So sorry for all I've missed. Your video blew me away!!! Both the modelling, the photography, and the video production. I'm SO envious!  :) Congratulations for all your great work and recognition. Well deserved!

Leon
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on December 18, 2018, 06:03:55 PM

Taking the backscene off was how I managed to get this shot of the bus, which I took a while ago. I really like this photo, even though there are no trains in it  ;D ;D ;D

I agree.  It's a splendid photograph, taken from a 'natural' viewpoint.

Best wishes

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on December 18, 2018, 06:10:07 PM


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170227-724621624.jpeg)


Reminds me of a certain film starring Sir Michael Caine!

Some excellent pictures Kevin which really show off your modelling.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on December 19, 2018, 07:14:51 AM
Thanks for the link Kevin, great link, I found what I am looking for (unlike Bono).... lots of pics from new angles too, lovely stuff!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 19, 2018, 06:06:09 PM
Hi All,

Thanks guys for your comments  :D I must get some little gold bars to put in the back of the bus, David, or at least put a burnt out van with no doors somewhere  ;D

Also thank you Leon. So glad you liked the video. I don't think Steven Spielberg has anything to worry about yet  :no:

So what happened to the backscene ? ? ?

The baseboard my layout is built on is quite a snug fit in the case, and numpty that I am, I forgot to take into account the added dimensions that the backboard, front fascia, and switches would add on  :dunce:. This changed it from a snug fit, to a tight fit, but was still ok.

The problem was that over time, the edges of the backscene had slowly eased outwards in the direction of the blue arrows

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170333-724651538.jpeg)

This pulled apart the back two joints of the photo backscene (a gaugemaster one, which is in very small sections .....4 on my tiny layout) This was a bit niggley, More drastic though, the edges moving outwards were interfering with the lid closing, and were getting damaged.

So I took the backboard off, and started again. :( You see here the springiness of the plastic is always forcing itself out.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170333-72466983.jpeg)

(I took the photo off, as I will use the plastic sheet for something else  :thumbsup:)

So as not to damage the layout, I made a ply board the same size as the layout, to build a new backboard on. I made it in 3 sections, joined at the back rounded corners by quarter sections of 2" diameter drain pipe.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170339-72469496.jpeg)

The pipe was then trimmed, and any gaps filled and sanded smooth.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170343-724712184.jpeg)

Here you can see the "board template" with the shaped backboard on it.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170345-724721345.jpeg)

When it was taken off yay... no splaying out of the sides, and all seems square  :claphappy:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170347-724732222.jpeg)

Now for the photoscene. When I first started this project, I only knew of Gaugemaster backscenes, which are in tiny sections. As you see on the first pic, it took 3 to go along the really short length of my layout, and a 4th patch behind the stable, as the pieces were not deep enough. I since discovered ID backscenes, which are printed on thicker better quality paper, and larger sections (9" x 5ft) One piece was all I needed for the whole backboard, so no joins to come undone  :D :thumbsup: :D

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170349-724741080.jpeg)

really pleased with this ..... and it is square and upright as shown by my old and weathered square. :thumbsup:

Next job was to fit it on the board. I wanted to make it removeable, which meant screwing it on, no glue to be involved. I used screws and gorilla glue before, and the gorilla glue expanding also pushed the sides and back out making them obstruct the free closing of the lid.

I managed to peel off the remnents of glue with pliers.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170356-7247740.jpeg)

You can also see in this photo and the next where I used Araldite to glue wooden inserts into the foam rocks. This is so when I screw the board on, the screws have something to bite into, not just foam that they will have no purchase on. (The black gaffer tape covers wires from the street lamp, and holds them in a channel cut in the rocks)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170351-72475687.jpeg)

To make the back board removable, and also not interfere with the lid, no scenery will be stuck to the board, and the 3 edges must be perpendicular.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170354-724762099.jpeg)

 :claphappy: :laugh3: :claphappy: All is good  :claphappy: :laugh3: :claphappy:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170358-72478369.jpeg)

So that sorted the backscene. I have ordered the edging strip which should be here soon.

Now to the front, where I forgot to take into account the thickness of the fascia and switches  :dunce: :-[ :dunce:

I got a bit brutal with it .... took the fascia off, and cut back about 5 or 6mm of the front scenics,

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170337-724681117.jpeg)

I then got a big whirley saw and cut the front of the baseboard off  :worried:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170335-724671787.jpeg)

And when it was patched up..... looked good as new. Just taking off that little bit really made a difference to its fit in the case.  :thumbsup:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-181218170339-72470224.jpeg)

I should get the edging done over the next couple of days, so will update you with that, and also an update on the trees, as I replaced the quite fragile sea-foam ones with wire ones.

All best wishes to you all,
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on December 19, 2018, 07:00:32 PM
Brilliant!  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Webbo on December 19, 2018, 08:49:39 PM
Very good exposition of the solutions to your backdrop problems, Kevin.

Great layout and I love particularly your attention to your many little scenes such as the VW getting washed.

webbo
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on December 19, 2018, 08:57:53 PM
Cracking work as usual Kevin, the small improvements keep elevating it higher and higher :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on December 19, 2018, 09:08:38 PM


I love particularly your attention to your many little scenes such as the VW getting washed.


Why pick that one? :). Why not the pub scene or the swans?  ???. (I think we all love that little scene  ;)).
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on December 20, 2018, 07:51:26 AM
Excellent re-work Kevin!

Iíd not noticed the VW washing scene before...  :-[  ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on December 20, 2018, 05:35:34 PM
Looking betterer and betterer :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 20, 2018, 07:38:40 PM
Hi All,

Thank you all for your kind comments. I am very pleased with the new backscene. It was one of those problems that went unnoticed until the layout went back in its box a few times. An added bonus as well was the new scene is all one piece, so no awkward joins  :D

The Windmill girls also send their love. They are thrilled to be the "Pin up girls" of the N-Gauge Forum, but hope the Chelsea girls over in Port Perran don't get jealous  ;) :D ;)

The trim for the backscene arrived today. I just hope I don't bugger it up with glue smudges. I used superglue last time, and there were a couple of small runs, luckily behind the board, not in front. I have experimented on spare scrap bits with superglue gell which seems to work fine. Hopefully I will get it done tomorrow, as I want the weekend free for Christmas stuff. :foodanddrink:

Here are the armatures for the new trees, which should be better than the sea-foam ones I had made before, which were getting a bit knocked about and broken.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-201218190202-725181337.jpeg)

I got them on a visit to Poole with some friends, where we found a model shop 
:thumbsup: There are over 60 in a pack, of various sizes, made by a company called JTT

Since buying them, Roger over on Wrenton posted about dipping sea-foam trees in latex to strengthen them

Here they are again, in various stages of having foliage added.

The first has simply had the trunk painted with quite thick acrylic paint to disguise the twisty wire, and then had fine foam foliage added. This makes good low relief trees for against the backscene.

The second has its branches added to with sea-foam, and the trunk thickened with plaster.

The third is the same painted and flocked.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-201218190203-725341115.jpeg)

Roger came up with a fab idea of wrapping the trunks with tissue paper to thicken them. I think that is far better, as the plaster had a tendency to crack. Thanks Roger  :thumbsup:

Here are a some more completed ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-201218190207-725371102.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-201218190206-725362281.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-201218190205-725352109.jpeg)

Here are some set in the layout, replacing all the trees previously there. These ones are a lot more robust ...

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-201218190211-72538214.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-201218190211-725381090.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-201218190213-725402238.jpeg)

I hope you like the photos, I'm not really happy with the look of them. A crafting (and crafty  ;) ) friend suggested using daylight bulbs when I mentioned my workbench is a bit dim on these dark evenings. They are fantastic, and I would certainly recommend them for modelling, but they seem to make the photos look a bit stark and clinical  :hmmm:

Anyway, back to work on the edging .....

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 20, 2018, 08:04:33 PM
Those trees look super to me Kevin.
Something I may consider emulating on Tregonning in the new year perhaps.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on December 20, 2018, 08:15:16 PM
I like the trees. As regards to the photos, if you have a photo editing program increase the green or yellow slightly to offset the blue of daylight bulbs.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on December 20, 2018, 08:32:37 PM
Lovely work on the trees Kevin, I'll be taking a leaf out of your book in the new year to plant some in Perthsire :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 20, 2018, 09:44:16 PM
Cheers all,

Glad you like the new trees. I was particularly trying to avoid the "lollipop" look that some shop bought trees have, and Rogers idea of tissue paper rather than plaster on the trunks really works  :thumbsup:

Thanks Mito for the photo advice..... I got onto it straight away and took this photo of one of the little baby trees ( with my Terrier in the background, as I am doing some track cleaning .... which doesn't take long here  :D :D)

I took the blue down to -15, and added +4 to the green, and it looks a lot better.

 :thankyousign:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-201218213224-72541787.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on December 20, 2018, 10:18:57 PM
Hi Kevin,

All looking fantastic. Glad you're getting it all together before next week as it would bug me if I'd nearly finished. There's always tweaking I'm sure but you know what I mean. I would have been wanting to be carving the front off the layout next Tuesday rather than the bird.

Have a good one but not too much cider mind. My acid reflux is back and we haven't even started yet  :doh:

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on December 21, 2018, 10:29:20 AM
Just catching up here....

Great solution to your backscene and case fitting problems Kevin. :thumbsup:  The new background certainly makes the whole thing look more like it is truly on a hill.

Very nice trees!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 23, 2018, 01:24:18 AM
Well all went well yesterday, got all I needed done, so spent this evening in my local. Back home now,  Here is yesterdays work  ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-221218165815-725771760.jpeg)

The edging I glued on with superglue gell, so the ordinary would not run. Then with the photo backscene in, I painted the edge to merge with the ID backscene .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-221218165819-725861176.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-221218165823-72588814.jpeg)

This looked really good, and the better backscene from ID backscene worked

This was the stable scene before....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-221218165825-72589399.jpeg)

And looking better now ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-221218165826-7259024.jpeg)

And the new upright backscene sides, even with the "sling" to lift the layout in and out of the case, everything worked

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-221218165828-725911575.jpeg)

I was very pleased with how that all planned out .... Then after lunch,I chopped up the plastic sheet from the old backscene, and made these shapes. Then cut some aluminium strip .....

Who knows what this puzzle is for

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-221218170146-72592425.jpeg)

I Wonder what guesses  there will be

All best wishes

Kevin.









Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 23, 2018, 05:53:54 AM
Great work Kevin.
Looks fantastic.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on December 23, 2018, 08:33:27 AM
Huge improvement with the new back scene. Transforms the stable shot.  :thumbsup:

The kit of parts look intriguing - no idea so await the Grand Announcement.

Thanks for sharing your really excellent little railway.

Merry Yule  :beers:

Dave G

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on December 23, 2018, 08:51:50 AM
Lovely pictures as ever Kevin. You have certainly improved the look of the entire layout with that backscene. It makes it look far more Ďopení. :thumbsup:

Re the kit of parts: quite obviously going to be an oojamaflit, thingybob, or whotsit. :).

 Though my proper guess would be a rigid frame for lifting the layout from its case, as I suspect using the Ďslingí can give you moments of increased heart rate as you raise and lower it.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on December 23, 2018, 09:10:57 AM
great work on the backscene Kevin, looking really good.

I think we are looking at some kind of steampunk christmas decoration  :hmmm:

could it be a stand, a lighting frame ... or a wind chime that will react to the air movement from the windmill?  ???
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on December 23, 2018, 06:08:30 PM
Great photos and a great improvement. :thumbsup:
Is the kit to prevent low flying drones? :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 27, 2018, 09:24:55 PM
Hi All,

Hope everyone's Christmas was good ..... now we can all relax with our presents until the New Year   :D

I'm trying to get some nice photos with the new trees and background in. I am very pleased with it, the hills and dales of the scene are more distant, which means the layout looks more open ..... thanks Mike for noticing that  :thumbsup: :D :thumbsup:

Meanwhile my "scrapheap challenge" has been assembled with superglue and pop rivets

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-271218212144-726411144.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-271218212145-72677449.jpeg)

.....To be continued  ;)

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on December 27, 2018, 10:19:19 PM
Looks great.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 28, 2018, 06:04:08 PM
Thanks Alexander,

Hope you are well, and had a good Christmas  :D

I just took some quick pics of the new backscene from ID Backscenes .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-281218174806-727212078.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-281218174806-727162303.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-281218174812-727231614.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-281218174810-727222360.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-281218181055-727281897.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-221218165826-7259024.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-281218174816-72725527.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-281218174819-727271295.jpeg)

On this last one you can also see how the edging strip really adds to the neatness .... an idea from Newport Nobby .....Thanks Mick  :thumbsup:

Also the mug puts the size of the whole layout in context

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-281218174819-727261913.jpeg)

With all best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on December 28, 2018, 08:41:32 PM
I think the new backscene has made a world of difference although Windmill Hill really does look like a very big hill now (or maybe something like Wenlock Edge)
(Thanks for the thanks, too :D)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 28, 2018, 09:11:57 PM
Cheers Mick,

Hope you had a good Christmas, with plenty of Southern Comfort  ;) At least air guitar won't upset the neighbours  :D ;D :D

I guess windmills should be fairly high  :D  I looked  up Wenlock Edge, and the scenery does look very similar.

While on here, this is my yard with the signal box ......

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-281218210409-72734634.jpeg)

When I went to the Weymouth Model Railway Exhibition in October, I saw these ready painted P D Marsh ground signals. Does anyone think they should go somewhere, or not ?

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-281218210408-727292282.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on December 29, 2018, 01:25:23 PM


When I went to the Weymouth Model Railway Exhibition in October, I saw these ready painted P D Marsh ground signals. Does anyone think they should go somewhere, or not ?

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-281218210408-727292282.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Yup. How about 'Chez Moi'? ;) :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 29, 2018, 01:37:07 PM
Hi Mick,

I will ask in the signals part of the forum where they should go, and what I should do with them  ::) ::) ::)

I'm sure I won't use all 5 in the pack, I don't even know if any will be needed, so you are very welcome to them .... a late Christmas present   :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on December 29, 2018, 02:19:34 PM
I was purely joshing but if you have any left over let me know the price by PM or if you'd prefer me to make a contribution to forum funds, Kevin. Very kind of you. :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 29, 2018, 03:13:20 PM
 :hellosign:

Hi All,

Just filled in the gaps ......

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-291218151044-7274512.jpeg)

And painted the inside .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-291218151046-72749455.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 30, 2018, 08:49:22 PM
Hi All,

The new bit of ironmongery and plastic is now completed  :claphappy:

While fixing the permanent backscene, I thought how about making a bigger one that I could use for photographs ..... just unscrew the little one, and stand the big one in its place  :idea:

So I made the frame as you have seen. I sprayed the inside black, as if there was any light behind, the frame could be seen as a shadow. The paint stopped that happening

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-301218203036-727711921.jpeg)

I telephoned John from ID Backscenes, and he was so helpful, above and beyond the call of duty, and he printed for me a one off section that matched the backscene section I had newly installed, but was another 6" tall. Top man John  :D :D :D

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-301218203035-72764406.jpeg)

Then I cut a piece of laminate flooring I had left over from when I did my kitchen to fit on the front of the board, landscaped it, and fitted blocks underneath so I could screw it to the layout front ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-301218203039-727721261.jpeg)

Here is the whole set up in position .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-301218203043-727741204.jpeg)

Anyway, off for a quick whisky break ..... got to use my Christmas present up .... and will try taking a few photos

Back soon .... hopefully  ;) :D ;)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on December 30, 2018, 08:59:19 PM
Excellent work Kevin.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on December 30, 2018, 10:20:41 PM
Brilliant, Kevin, and a great improvement for when the layout is at an exhibition, making it more Ďstand-outí amongst the larger layouts on display. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 30, 2018, 11:00:16 PM
 :hellosign:

Back again ....... What a great idea re. any exhibitions, I had not thought of that at all. Cheers Mike  :thumbsup: :D :thumbsup:

I took some pics of the new extended Windmill Hill, and it was great to be able to photo the layout without worrying about the edges. These photos make it look like a grown up layout, although there is a tiny bit of me that thinks it's cheating just a little bit  :-[

Anyway, here are some different views to normal, see what you think  ;) ......

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-301218223840-727751757.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-301218223844-727771021.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-301218223845-727781040.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-301218223852-727801461.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-301218223848-727792268.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-301218223853-727801077.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-301218223855-72782357.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-301218223841-727761023.jpeg)

Hope you like the photos, when I've got the level crossing back in I will get some better ones (with cars on the right side of the road  :-[)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

 .....

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on December 31, 2018, 12:04:25 AM
It's not cheating... Looks always deceive :)


Your layout is great!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on December 31, 2018, 11:02:32 AM
 :thankyousign:

Cheers Alexander,

Hope you are well, and have a very Happy New Year  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on December 31, 2018, 12:48:02 PM
I think itís a great idea Kevin.
It certainly adds depth and gives a more ďgrown upĒ feel to Windmill Hill.
Are you planning toshow it at any exhibitions?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 01, 2019, 07:41:34 PM

 :D Happy New Year to you all  :D

Feeling a bit under the weather today (self inflicted  :-[ :-[), so just did a bit of tree re-arranging.

These are a couple of new trees .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-201218190211-72538214.jpeg)

They looked a bit big to me, perched on top of the rock, and too much with the new backscene  :hmmm: .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-010119190546-728241595.jpeg)

so are now smaller, and moved further down the rocks. I have learnt from many mistakes  :worried: not to fix anything permanently until I am very happy with it ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-010119193852-728261780.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on January 01, 2019, 07:58:23 PM
Smaller is definitely better in this case.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 02, 2019, 08:03:54 AM
This is even more cunning than a cunning fox...  :goggleeyes:

Great idea Kevin,  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on January 02, 2019, 08:10:48 AM
 :thankyousign:
The relocation of the trees and smaller size is a great improvement.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 07, 2019, 11:28:45 PM
Hi All,

With the new ID backscene in place, which has made an awesome difference to the feeling of space on Windmill Hill, it is now always Summer  :D

And with that warmth, this new Preiser family .... just arrived from Holland as some Preiser figures are very hard to track down ..... have decided to go for a swim  :goggleeyes:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-080119032749-729721744.jpeg)

As with most really close up photos all the imperfections show, but I am not that worried here as a Summer house like this would have sand over it and look a bit weatherbeaten ;)

I'm not sure if I should have these figures permanently like this. They are tacky waxed in place until I make my mind up.  I also think I may try and make a new weeping willow ..... I've never been 100% happy with that one  :hmmm:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bob Tidbury on January 08, 2019, 09:06:15 AM
I donít think anyone makes a good weeping willow tree ,I Have tried and found them to be the hardest tree to model .
If anyone can make them then they will be on a winner .
I think that your micro layout looks really good ,and thatís from someone who is not really keen on Micro Layouts .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 08, 2019, 09:33:41 AM
I agree that Weeping Willows are difficult.
I have three beside my canal on Trepol Bay.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4884/45745133395_ca1d71579e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cGkLqt)92AA369D-AD77-47EF-83CB-8BA2E76C6BAE (https://flic.kr/p/2cGkLqt) by martin scane (https://www.flickr.com/photos/162836309@N02/), on Flickr
They arenít brilliant but look ok(ish). They are very cheap Chinese ones to which Iíve added more appropriate greenery. Iím sure you could do a better job than I did Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 08, 2019, 03:23:02 PM
Thanks Bob and Martin,

I made the armature out of 2 thicknesses of wire. Thicker for the trunk and thin for the more whispey branches. Then I wrapped the trunk with tissue paper and glue (Wrenton Roger's great tip  :thumbsup:).

When spray painted the paint formed little balls on the fine wire, but I left them on as I think it will be more for the leaves to stick to.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-080119145204-729741793.jpeg)

The trunk branches into 2, as most pictures of willows seem to show that, and thanks Martin for the pictures of your willows. Like yours, I think the branches need to be more separated on this new one.

Off to the shops now, so when I get back the armature will have dried, and I will add foliage. :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:





Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 09, 2019, 02:33:58 PM
 :wave: Hi All  :wave:

Well yesterday after getting back from "shopping"  :beers:  :-[  :beers:  I wasn't ready to get modelling, so this morning I have been finishing the weeping willow.

I turned the armature upside down and added foliage to the underside, turning it into a green hairy version of something that might be found crawling up Bealman's wall (check George's last post  :D )

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-090119141113-7301525.jpeg)

Then the tentacles were bent downwards to a rough shape of how the tree should look.
All the pictures of weeping willow trees had quite bright green leaves, so as my layout is in Summer, I went with a brighter foliage, and used the finest I had to try to make the weeping branches less chunky.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-090119140928-730131887.jpeg)

This seemed to work ok, although after being trimmed down, the proportions made them look thicker than I would have liked. However I am reasonably pleased with the result. The shape looks better, and like the trees in Martin's picture, I have let the branches trail closer to the ground, and spaced them more openly, which looks more natural, so after tidying up I will set the deckchairs further forward.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-090119140814-7298294.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on January 09, 2019, 02:47:28 PM
I must admit, that does look suspiciously like a Weeping Willow.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 09, 2019, 03:18:47 PM
That looks super Kevin, just like a weeping willow in fact.
Martin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on January 09, 2019, 05:44:04 PM
Great creation Kevin. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 11, 2019, 09:39:54 PM
Hi All,

Bob was right .... weeping willows aren't easy, but I think the new one is an improvement   :D

Continuing to faff about with things that are niggling (there's not much on the layout that is original now I am learning from all you guys how to do things better  :thumbsup: ) The latest thing I attacked was this little hut, and its ENORMOUS outside light.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-110119201224-730851319.jpeg)

I have a theory that all the little improvements that may not be noticeable individually, when added together better the layout when viewed as a whole, especially on a layout this small.

Taking inspiration from technical genius Caz, and a topic she wrote about tiny lights on carriages and locos, I bought some of this fibre optic stuff which arrived this morning.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-110119201224-730851643.jpeg)

It is 1mm diameter, and came in a 7m pack. I used less than an inch of it for the light, and about 6" playing around, so if anyone needs some I have loads spare  :D  :D  :D

I also used a 3mm LED. and some heat shrink tube ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-110119201229-73089615.jpeg)

I made the hut, and drilled a 1mm hole where the light will go ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-110119204852-730962283.jpeg)

Next I had to think of something for the light. I had some spare level crossing gates, so in a "light bulb moment" I thought one of the lights from these would be ok. I VERY carefully drilled a 1mm hole through it. After breaking one first go  :-[ :-[ , on the second one I first used a 0.5mm drill, then 0.75mm and finally a 1mm drill, and that gave me a hole the fibre optic snuggley fitted into. :D :thumbsup: :D

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-110119201232-730901984.jpeg)

Then the lamp was cut off the gate and painted black ...

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-110119201232-73091429.jpeg)

The lamp with about half inch or so fibre optic was then pushed through the hole on the hut wall from the front, and glued with a very tiny bit of Arraldite (the instructions on the fibre optic said superglue dissolves it)

The LED, which I bought pre-wired with a resistor, was then fitted with a little "hood" of heat shrink, and fitted inside the hut, with the LED butting up against the end of the fibre optic. A knot in the leads stops them from pulling through the hole  in the hut base.

The light is on here, and there is a bit of light leakage, which was stopped with a blob of blu-tac.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-110119201235-730922254.jpeg)

The wires, blu-tac etc were then painted black so nothing would show through the window and door, and the roof was glued on. Here's how it looks ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-110119201237-73094519.jpeg)

Compared to the first version, which I used one of the rectangular block type LEDs with the block bit painted.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-110119201237-73093871.jpeg)

And here are the two side by side, showing both lights on. When I bed the new one in I may dab a little bit of yellow paint on to "warm up" the light.... not sure yet  :hmmm:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-110119201240-73095432.jpeg)

Well that's been my day, taking it slowly with lots of coffee breaks while paint and glue dry properly, and a few walk away breaks so I don't mess up  ;) No more modelling today, tomorrow it's out with the old and in with the new  :D

Thanks to Caz for her inspiration, and hope you find this useful if anyone is going to try adding little lights on your buildings  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

 
 
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on January 12, 2019, 08:33:09 AM
 :thankyousign:
great idea, superb execution and perfect description how to do it...
 :NGaugersRule:

The hut looks very nice now
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 13, 2019, 08:56:35 PM
 :confusedsign:

 :o Aaaaarrrrrrggggghhhhh !!   What's happening...... where's my Windmill ?  :o

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-130119205116-73121545.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 13, 2019, 09:04:21 PM
Itís vanishled.
It was a Tardis all the time.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on January 13, 2019, 09:06:37 PM
Have the two ladies got owt to do with it? Maybe preparatory to setting up a car washing business?  :hmmm:  I must admit though, 'Car Wash Hill' does not have the same ring to it.  :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on January 13, 2019, 09:07:02 PM
Shame, I used to be a Big Fan as well  :D

Sorry, blame the apples. I always do.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Que pasa Gringo?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on January 13, 2019, 09:19:51 PM
Structural damage due to flatulance? :worried:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on January 13, 2019, 09:39:12 PM
I blame that Jonathan Creek. He's watched a lot of Star Trek and now knows how to 'cloak' things :uneasy:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 13, 2019, 09:51:54 PM
Thatís what you get when you build over Thunderbird 3ís silo :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on January 13, 2019, 10:18:55 PM
Looks like the governor on the gearing of the sails failed to engage at critical speed in the recent gales, giving said sails the properties of a propeller. This allowed the windmill to fulfil itís innermost dream and take flight.

Suggest search for it begins at Camberwick Green.

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on January 14, 2019, 07:44:22 AM
Solved it!

Itís gone away for conversion into a lavatory block. (Hint, the clue is in the sign)

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 14, 2019, 08:16:25 AM
I missed that  :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 14, 2019, 12:57:12 PM
Hi All,

The search for the missing windmill is still on  ;)

Thank  you for all your suggestions, and while investigations are being carried out, the landlord of the pub has taken advantage of the unused pole to open up a place of dubious entertainment  :D :goggleeyes: :D

He seems to be doing well, and is taking coach parties ...... meanwhile the pigs remain unimpressed  :no:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-140119124730-731521786.jpeg)

Hopefully more to report later  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on January 14, 2019, 01:01:37 PM
Kevin, do you have a friend called Perry because you're both very naughty boys?!  :)  ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on January 14, 2019, 01:09:25 PM
Will the lady in the black boots, (always liked long boots on ladies  :worried:), be helping the car washing ladies?  ???
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on January 14, 2019, 03:26:00 PM
Will the lady in the black boots, (always liked long boots on ladies  :worried:),

With or without whip? :confused1:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on January 14, 2019, 03:29:22 PM
I'm pleading the 5th Amendment.  ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 14, 2019, 05:22:02 PM
Without enlarging the image, that choc bloc connector looks like a washing machine behind the girl in red,
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on January 14, 2019, 06:11:20 PM
It is a Hotpoint washing machine and the item next to it is a dryer, They are there so when the car wash gets up and running, the girl in the black boots ( :goggleeyes:). can wash the car carpets whilst the car is being washed.  ;D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 14, 2019, 07:33:52 PM
 :hellosign:

With the plans David has, it would be a shame to find the windmill  :D :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y58UfFq8AqI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y58UfFq8AqI)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 14, 2019, 07:40:41 PM
 Now Iíve lost  the plot    :doh:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on January 14, 2019, 07:48:22 PM
Now Iíve lost  the plot    :doh:

Well there are some allotments in reply #693.  :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on January 14, 2019, 08:44:05 PM
Now Iíve lost  the plot    :doh:
It's quite simple. The plot has lost its windmill :laugh3:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on January 14, 2019, 09:29:06 PM
Everyone behave now or this could get out of hand and cost a lot of money  :D .......

https://www.amazon.com/Analeigh-Tipton-signed-Model-Stupid/dp/B01L0WVFX2 (https://www.amazon.com/Analeigh-Tipton-signed-Model-Stupid/dp/B01L0WVFX2)

Sorry, back on the wine.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on January 14, 2019, 09:36:53 PM
Two problems with that link, a) it states does not ship to Ireland and b) the lady is not wearing long boots!  :-X I mean, you could really do with a pair of wellingtons in a car wash.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 14, 2019, 09:50:11 PM
 
Love it  :D :D :D

I've just seen the pic (How on earth did you find that ...... or maybe I don't want to know  :-[ )

I was thinking how long will it be before David responds ....... It was 47 secs   :P

I'm just resizing some photos, and will be back with the true story of what happened to the windmill.

Back in about 10 mins  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

PS.... I wonder what the grown-ups are doing now ..... they're not here with us  :laugh3: :smiley-laughing: :laugh3:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 14, 2019, 10:42:57 PM
Back again with resized pictures  :wave:

So here's what happened .......

I haven't had the windmill sails turning for ages, as I took them off a long time ago so they would not get damaged as they are quite delicate. Then a couple of days ago a friend came round to see the layout and the sails wern't turning.  :veryangry: :veryangry:

I could hear the motor running, but no motion of the sails, so the mill had to be uprooted to see what the problem was.  :worried:

Luckily it was not too firmly glued in, as someone here suggested access would be needed just in case something went wrong, so it was quite easily prised off its base with no damage.

The problem was the glue holding the gear axle into the end of the connecting tube to the motor had lost its grip  :(

I'm glad it was nothing worse, as it would have been a nightmare to get the motor out.

Here is the inside of the mill .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-140119213410-73173342.jpeg)

You can see the end of the axle. It just needed re-gluing back to connect it to the motor.

While I had the windmill out, I thought about an outside light for it. I ordered a couple from Railroom Electronics a while ago, just to make an order up to get free postage, and now was an ideal time to use one.

You can see the wiring glued to the inside walls. Here it is from the outside.....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-140119213408-731701242.jpeg)

It is powered on the layout from the washing machine the ladies were dancing round  :D

I then roughened the gear axle with a grinding wheel on my dremmel, so the glue would get better grip, connected the light, and replaced the windmill. The connection to the motor was really tricky, as it could only be done by feeling .

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-140119213416-73176372.jpeg)

When it was done, the bits and pieces round the mill were replaced, except for the tub of flowers as it did not look quite right.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-140119213413-73174641.jpeg)

Then after the glue was left all day to thoroughly get its grip, the sails were tested and all was  back to normal.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-140119213416-731752317.jpeg)

I don't think the residents of Windmill Hill will forget the visit of those two ladies though  ;) :D ;)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 15, 2019, 07:37:29 AM
Excellent Kevin. Iím glad weíre all back to normal.
I donít think the rest of us will forget those two ladies either.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Mito on January 15, 2019, 06:19:48 PM
Nice one :thumbsup: Glad you were able to get it up and running again. The light sets it off well.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 20, 2019, 03:11:41 PM
Hi All,

Hope your weekend is going well  :thumbsup:

Here is the new willow tree bedded in, with the figures back. When I post photos the only manipulation I do is contrast / brightness, and I have a blemish remover (only photos, not real life unfortunatly  ;) ) which is for getting rid of pimples on spotty youths, or wrinkles on grumpy gits. This is great for getting rid of dust or stray bits of static grass etc.

However I just found a function which removes things ..... also not in real life though  :D , and I tried it for the first time here, and took out the car behind the willow tree, and the back of the super-flared boat repair man.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-200119141122-733311586.jpeg)

Here is the beach in full ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-200119141119-733302315.jpeg)

Also, with my new extended backscene I can now take photos portrait style, so here is the newly fixed windmill, with the shadow of the sails on the clouds taken out .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-200119141116-7332778.jpeg)

And a close up of the owner smoking his enormous pipe  ::) next to the new light. I think the new plants growing up the wall look better than the pot which was there before.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-200119141118-733291568.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 20, 2019, 03:23:33 PM
You have an excellent eye for detail Kevin.
Looks good.
Is that a bell hanging from the roof edging to the right of popeye?

Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on January 20, 2019, 04:12:22 PM
Great willow tree, and nice to see a windmill back in place, otherwise youíd have to change the name of the layout!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 20, 2019, 04:16:09 PM
Hi Martin,

It is a light I had, so thought I would fit it while I was inside the windmill .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-140119213408-731701242.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on January 20, 2019, 04:33:38 PM
Ah. I see it now.
Looks good - especially lit up.
Iím hoping to add various little details and cameo scenes on my little boxfile layout.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: DaveGlew on January 20, 2019, 04:56:40 PM
I can't imagine how you could do this without 20:20 vision and a very steady hand. Terrific detail. :o
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on January 20, 2019, 09:14:16 PM

It is a light I had, so thought I would fit it while I was inside the windmill .....


Did you imbibe from a bottle labelled "Drink Me" to able to get inside? :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on January 20, 2019, 09:32:25 PM
Thanks Dave,

My eyes are far from perfect, but I am patient, and one thing I have learnt from my modelling is not to rush things, and take time out (for a small cider  :D ? ) when things get too frustrating.

Also a tip from my friend Jenny, who is a craft lady, was to use daylight bulbs in the two lamps above my workbench. They really have made the detailing easier to see  :thumbsup:

I am not very good at getting evening photos showing the lighting, but here is the best I could do showing the new mill light, and the pub lit up.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-200119210946-733372205.jpeg)

EDIT .... This is strange, I resized the photo smaller, but it has loaded really HUGE ? Just click the photo and you will see it smaller with the whole pub and beer garden lit up .

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

PS... Most of the bottles in my house shout "drink me !" at some stage Mick  :D

In fact the Jack Daniels Honey is doing it now ! I only bought it 'cos I have a sore throat (and it is sooooo smooth and lovely  :P)...... Hope there are no rabbit holes in my house !!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on January 21, 2019, 07:24:50 AM
Really like lit up shots - of the railway!

Nice photo. Weird about the resizing  ???

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 21, 2019, 09:19:53 PM
 :hellosign:.  Many thanks Kevin that is one special photo
        regards Derek
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 04, 2019, 03:10:58 PM
Hi All  :wave:

Hope you all had a good weekend,

I've not been doing much modelling recently, as other things have kept me occupied, but I have been doing a bit of tidying up, mainly round the windmill where it needed fixing, and I added the new light. This is because I hope to be getting a new camera this month, with magic focus stacking wizardry in it  :D :D

One thing I can't make my mind up about is a companion for the miller. He has generously agreed to rehouse the destitute ladies who occupied his site, but he needs a canine pal.

Any preferences ?

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-040219143723-738282406.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/73/5755-040219143722-738202068.jpeg)

Also I am getting my stock weathered soon. I have noticed most people go to TMC, and I have seen what they do, and it looks good.

I would just like to ask some advice please.

The two trains I have are these .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/5755-170918150352-69159655.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-301218223840-727751757.jpeg)

I think the upper level goods train should be more weathered than the passenger train, but I don't want to go overboard.

For anyone that has used TMC, would medium weathering be right for the goods train, and light for the passenger service ?

All best wishes,
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on February 04, 2019, 03:19:20 PM
He has generously agreed to rehouse the destitute ladies who occupied his site,

I bet he has! Will he be able to cope?  :worried:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on February 04, 2019, 03:53:27 PM
Lovely pictures Kevin. Howver, Iím a little worried about the miller........is that a bottle of beer he has in hos hand or is he about to shoot himself?
I think very light weathering for the passenger stock and as you suggest, medium for the goods stock.
Could I suggest however trying it yourself with tamiya acryllics dry brished?
All the best
Martin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: rogerdB on February 04, 2019, 04:26:55 PM
Not sure if this will help but my 64xx https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=38682.msg486924#msg486924 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=38682.msg486924#msg486924) is TMC heavy weathering and my Ivatt 2MT https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=38682.msg534768#msg534768 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=38682.msg534768#msg534768) is medium. I don't think I've got any lightly weathered samples. For rolling stock I'd agree with Martin - try it yourself.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on February 04, 2019, 04:41:42 PM
Regarding the animal, I'd prefer to think he has a cat as all good windmills had a 'mouser' ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on February 04, 2019, 05:16:16 PM
Hi Kevin,

Great pics. I know nothing about weathering but light for passenger and medium for goods sounds good to me.

I prefer the brown and white dog anyway but also the scenario looks better. The other looks like he should be running into the pond, chasing ducks and annoying the anglers.

Great stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 04, 2019, 08:39:43 PM
Many thanks Guys,

Re the ladies, I'm sure the miller will cope David, but if he needs help with the lady in boots, we'll let you know  ;) :D ;)

I'm not certain about doing weathering myself, but once I have some professionally done I may get some cheap wagons from E-bay and try.

Many thanks for those photos Roger. They were very helpful indeed in giving me a guide as to how heavy to go. If you don't mind, may I show TMC your photos to give them an idea of what I want. I would not do it without asking first  :no:

Funny you should mention a cat Mick, I originally did have one there. You can just see him tail up and "towel holder" end on in this pic.......

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/5755-240318195100-63358726.jpeg)

He's on top of an oil drum next to the barrel, unfortunately he got lost somewhere along the way  :(

I think I will go with Weave, and have the St Bernard sitting there. He does seem to suit the scene better with the Miller smoking his pipe and contemplating how to spend the afternoon  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: rogerdB on February 04, 2019, 09:53:32 PM
Many thanks for those photos Roger. They were very helpful indeed in giving me a guide as to how heavy to go. If you don't mind, may I show TMC your photos to give them an idea of what I want. I would not do it without asking first  :no:

Please do Kevin.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 22, 2019, 12:51:44 PM
Hi All.

Here is the rather frantic video of my Dapol "Terrier" belting around at breakneck speed on Windmill Hill ...... not for the fainthearted  :o



After that I promised a more gentle video showing the windmill working. I spent all yesterday getting it together. I did not post it last night as being a non-tech person, making it made my brain hurt so I went to the pub to get it some medicine  :pint:

The video is only on the upper level of the layout, as I am having track issues on the lower level which need sorting.  :worried:

It is not the highest quality, as I don't have the equipment.... it is lit by desk lamps, and my camera is balanced on a pile of cd's .... but my aim is to try and get the content OK, so I know what to film when I get a decent camera and some better lights.

Anyway, I hope you like it.... it is more gentle than the last one  :D  :thumbsup:  :D



All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on February 22, 2019, 01:49:22 PM
Brilliant Kevin. Absolutely stunning.

Now that omnibus cum motor coach.
Is that a clever bit of electrickery or a piece of string  please ?

Martin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on February 22, 2019, 04:03:33 PM
Wonderfully bucolic
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Leon on February 22, 2019, 04:31:18 PM
Kevin, you're doing great with the videos! Most deserving of a little medicinal imbibing.

Leon
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on February 22, 2019, 07:55:49 PM
Lovely little video Kevin. :thumbsup:  After unexpectedly seeing the bus departing down the hill my concentration racked up a notch. I was half expecting one of the Camper girls to throw a bucket of suds over their van! :D

Great stuff! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 23, 2019, 12:54:01 PM
Hi All,

Thank you for your comments ( I must admit Mick's comment sent me running to look up a new word  :-[ :dunce: :-[ )

I'm glad you liked the video, and found it more restful than the speed trial. I thought I would add a little surprise with the bus running in the background. I had thought of installing the Faller system, or using Magnorail for that length of road, but in the end, as Martin guessed, I tied the bus to a bit of string   ;) :D ;)

Just for interest, here is my "video studio" ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/5755-230219122914-743652097.jpeg)

 Not quite state of the art yet.  :no: I am very pleased with the new background though. Not only is the scene more open and spacious than the gaugemaster one, but it is all in one piece with no unsightly joins. Also I am able to simply unscrew the smaller case sized backboard, and use this bigger one for photos.

The taped together dvd's are my tripod, and my camera is gaffer taped to the end of the foamboard boom, but this morning I ordered a proper tripod from Amazon, and after lunch it's a trip to B & Q to look at floodlights.  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on February 23, 2019, 01:06:11 PM
Floodlghts!
Midnight angling..........or water skiing ?
24 Hour license for the pub.
Sounds a great idea.
I look forward to the next set of piccies.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on February 23, 2019, 01:24:32 PM
Lights................camera................action! ;D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Leon on February 23, 2019, 09:22:27 PM
Kevin, I've got to know where you got that background! It may be just what I need. I like your resourcefulness. I have a tripod but haven't used it yet for photographing my layout. After viewing John's (Train Waiting) photo of the red LMS, it has shamed me into thinking more about the quality of my images.

Leon
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 23, 2019, 10:20:21 PM
Hi Leon,

hope your weekend is going well, and thank you for your kind comments re. my videos  :D

They were my first ones with things moving. I'm not sure if you saw this one, a slideshow of some scenic views of the layout .....



And this one is a record of the layout build .....



Anyway, back to the backscene. Originally I used a Gaugemaster backscene, which even on my tiny layout had to be in 4 pieces. However, thanks to the wealth of information on this forum, I discovered a company called ID backscenes.  :thumbsup:

Here are some of their scenes ....

https://www.buffersmodelrailways.com/art-printers (https://www.buffersmodelrailways.com/art-printers)

The scenes are in 5ft lengths, and on better quality paper than the gaugemaster one I had first used. While replacing the small backscene, which is the one normally on the layout, with a 9" tall ID backscene, I made the taller (15") backscene to use for photos.

I used one of the "Hills and Dales" scenes, and this page ......

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39207.1020 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39207.1020)

and the next show how it all went together.

Hope this is helpful  :D :D :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Leon on February 24, 2019, 02:18:17 AM
Kevin,

Thanks for bringing the two slideshows forward. I had seen them, but watched them again - and will watch them many times more, I'm sure. In my opinion, this layout will never be surpassed for the amount of interest in such a small space. The lively action is astounding!

You'll create equally engrossing videos, I've no doubt, but the slideshows are, in many ways, superior to videos.

Thanks for sharing the information about backscenes. I'll put a note in a safe place for the day I'm ready to put my layout in a larger context.

Leon
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 24, 2019, 03:09:05 AM
Hi Leon,

I was not sure if you had seen the slideshows or not.

Having been inspired by Roger's fantastic photos of Wrenton, I have been really enjoying taking photos of Windmill Hill, and am really looking forward to taking better ones when I get my new camera ..... the trouble is on such a small layout I am fast running out of things to photograph, so am now experimenting with video  :D

You are right though about slidshow vs video. As discussed here a while ago with George (Bealman) on a video the moving trains just emphasise everything else that is not moving ... hence my bus on a string  ;) :D ;)

all best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

 
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on February 24, 2019, 07:16:19 AM
Endorse Kevin's ID Backscenes recommendation.

How about a helicopter ride over Windmill hill?  :camera:

That'd be a bit different but you may need to play with the lighting to avoid unwanted shadows.

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 24, 2019, 04:06:08 PM
Hi Dave,

A helicopter ride sounds good  :thumbsup: I can't do anything yet though, as there is some work going on "downstairs" on the lower level as I am having some issues with the track.

I realise the problems with shadows though.... some photos I have taken have shadows of the windmill on the sky  :-[

I put it down to "unusual cloud formations"  :D ;) :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 27, 2019, 06:12:54 PM
Hi All,

In an effort to put off doing more important things, I have been playing around with a few bits and pieces ..... mainly lighting.

After drilling through a Peco level crossing light, illuminating it, and fitting it to a lineside hut, I thought "could I actually illuminating the level crossing gates."  :hmmm:

I had one tiny red led, so I had a go ..... here is the result  :D  :thumbsup: :D

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/5755-260219152752-74407139.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/5755-260219152754-74428461.jpeg)

Sorry the lit photo is such bad quality  :-[

Now it seems to work I can order some more leds and do the other gate  :thumbsup:

Also, may I ask your opinion on something. I have been niggled by the corner of the station access road and the main road for a while.  :hmmm:

Then while filming my little video, I destroyed the tree by the station by running the platform I stuck the camera on into it  :-[ :-[ :-[

I now kind of think the corner looks better without it, and a street lamp would be better there.  :hmmm:

Here is how it was before ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/5755-260219152758-74430874.jpeg)

And here with the street lamp .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/5755-260219152756-74429829.jpeg)

Anyone got any thoughts please ?

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on February 27, 2019, 06:21:33 PM
I think the street lamp might look better than the tree, once properly installed.  :hmmm:

Re the level crossing gate - amazing what you can do with a little imagination.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on February 27, 2019, 06:29:32 PM
I love lighting my layout so really impressed with the lit gate! Not sure I could manage that.

The street lamp works for me too but may I suggest it's set back as far as poss.

Dave G

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 27, 2019, 06:32:13 PM
I think the street lamp might look better than the tree, once properly installed.  :hmmm:

Re the level crossing gate - amazing what you can do with a little imagination.  :thumbsup:

Seconded, twice!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Leon on February 27, 2019, 06:54:58 PM

Also, may I ask your opinion on something.

I know this isn't a poker game, but a tree trumps a lamp every time, in my opinion. If you need a lamp, put it across the street? I'm envious of all the great lighting I see on layouts. It certainly provides added interest, and I bet it has added another dimension of modelling pleasure for many. Lighting may be another case of the "less is more" principle, however.

Leon
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on February 27, 2019, 08:00:39 PM
Iím with Leon.
Keep the tree.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on February 27, 2019, 08:43:34 PM
If you keep a tree by the station, then certainly the lamppost could still be used on the other side of the road.

I think you need to ask the Station Master to contact the Company Surveyor as the latter may like to check whether or not the tree roots are likely to cause damage to the Station foundations at some time in the future, or if itís presence is causing a damp problem on the end wall. :hmmm:

Personally, Iíd keep the tree and install the lamppost. The latter would deter neíre-do-wells from lurking under the bridge. :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on February 27, 2019, 09:10:05 PM
The man talks sense.  An admirable solution that keeps us all happy. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 27, 2019, 09:40:19 PM
I think the railway company surveyor would be very unhappy at having such a sturdy tree right next to the station building with its roots working into the foundations and, by taking up soil water, causing subsidence.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on February 27, 2019, 09:41:51 PM

Personally, Iíd keep the tree and install the lamppost. The latter would deter neíre-do-wells from lurking under the bridge. :D

I feel sorry for the village youngsters as they have nowhere to 'canoodle' now the tree has gone, especially if you intend to cast them into light!!! Please return the tree ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 27, 2019, 10:15:47 PM
 :hellosign:

Thank you all or your replies  :thankyousign:

The three problems I was having were 1. The road junction was not lit
                                                        2. The tree was obscuring motorists vision at
                                                            the junction
                                                        3. As Mike and Chris pointed out, such a big
                                                            tree would cause problems so close to the
                                                            station building.

As there is no room at all on the other side of the road for the lamp post, it has to go on that corner. I will install it, and then see if perhaps a smaller tree could go in among the hydrangers, but for the moment it's just the light.

By the way, don't worry Mick, there are plenty of spots for youngsters to canoodle around the layout without climbing up a tree..... and oldies are not beyond a bit of gentle canoodling either  :D :D :D

All best wishes,
Kevin

 :beers:


                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                     
                                           

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on February 27, 2019, 11:24:47 PM
Hi Kevin,

Love the level crossing light.

Not very environmentally friendly but I think it looks better without the tree.
Saying that, it's hard to tell unless you're there.

Great stuff as usual.

Cheers, weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on February 28, 2019, 07:42:13 AM
A challenging compromise?

Keep the tree, or a cut-down version, and put a light under the bridge. I seem to recall a few of these lights from my yoof. Fitting the light could be a real problem but not for a man of your cailibre Kevin.  :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 28, 2019, 03:46:55 PM
Hi All,

Thanks Weave and Keith,

The hydrangas on the corner have been trimmed back, so the lamp post could be installed further back, so pedestrians can pass by on the pavement, a hole was drilled, and the lamp installed.

Then  >:( :veryangry: >:(

A bright flash, and it fizzled out.

Someone (actually me ! ) took the resistor off the end of the wire to thread it through the baseboard hole, and forgot to wire it back in  :dunce: :-[ :dunce:

A quick order went to layouts4u, and work is now postponed

Incidentally, the swan neck lamp is the same type of street lamp I used by the bridge ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-120618173957-66396999.jpeg)

It gives a nice not too harsh light with a dab of yellow paint added ( and a resistor fitted ...if you remember  :worried: )

And although like most lights, it is a bit oversized, it is not as huge as some I have bought

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/5755-280219154402-74565152.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on February 28, 2019, 05:38:07 PM
and the lamp installed.

Then  >:( :veryangry: >:(

A bright flash, and it fizzled out.


I bet you are not the only one who has done that, (no names mentioned!).   . . . . . .  :-[  :doh:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on February 28, 2019, 09:25:41 PM
I'm glad i'm not the only one David  ;) :D ;)

Being unable to do any modelling, I had a try at photographing a few scenes, with my camera fixed to the new  tripod I bought .....

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B079DQZQDH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B079DQZQDH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

It made positioning the camera so much easier, and I tried to get shots avoiding any shadows on the backscene.

Here are the results :) ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/5755-280219205655-745661828.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/5755-280219205709-745721044.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/5755-280219205709-745721122.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/5755-280219205702-745712372.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/5755-280219205659-745692350.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/5755-010319030513-7457470.jpeg)

For those who have noticed various ladies of dubious intent around Windmill Hill, there is a newcomer. A rather flirtatious young lady with a bare behind has been spotted ..... don't let her lead you astray  :D :o :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on February 28, 2019, 10:15:20 PM
I'm glad i'm not the only one David  ;) :D ;)


I said not to mention any names!!!!!  :doh:

I just looked at the link for the tripod and thought, "Good idea - hang on, I've got something like that somewhere". All I have to do is find it! And as for the lady with the bare behind, I'm saying nowt.  ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: fastpud on March 01, 2019, 12:18:55 AM
Just saw this for the first time and lím stunned. What an amazing concept and how beautifully modeled. The workmanship  and attention to detail is second to none. There is more detail and interest in that small model than many other large layouts.
Well done,  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 01, 2019, 05:14:24 PM
Thanks Guys,

I am really pleased with the tripod David, It is so flexible it will go anywhere. It even hangs off the side of my  background extension, and with the camera fixed, I can make those little adjustments in the scene  I photograph.

And thank you Fastpud for your kind comments. I really have fun with the detailing, and so glad you enjoy what I have done  :D  :thumbsup:  :D

Glad you spotted the girl with the bare behind David ..... although I may have spelt "Bear" wrongly when I first mentioned it  ;)  :D  ;)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/5755-280219205655-745661917.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Leon on March 01, 2019, 05:19:19 PM
I must confess - I had a good look, but gave up when I decided you didn't mean the mare!

Leon
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: cornish yorkie on March 01, 2019, 07:50:00 PM
 :hellosign: Superb photos Kevin, just gets better  :thumbsup:
      regards Derek
 
PS  Love the bear behind    :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 01, 2019, 08:15:40 PM
:hellosign: Superb photos Kevin, just gets better  :thumbsup:
      regards Derek
 
PS  Love the bear behind    :D

Seconded! Twice.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on March 01, 2019, 08:40:06 PM
:hellosign: Superb photos Kevin, just gets better  :thumbsup:
      regards Derek
 
PS  Love the bear behind    :D

How do you know she has a bare (sic) behind?
Sheís sitting down!   :D

Great work Kevin.

Martin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 02, 2019, 01:19:29 PM

I must remember to fit the resistor .... I must remember to fit the  resistor ..... I must remember to fit the resistor .....

So glad you liked the photos   :thankyousign:

The new street lamps to replace the one I blew  :-[ arrived this morning from layouts4u, so now I can get on with fixing the street corner by the station. I will show you how I got on after the weekend. I am still waiting for more tiny red leds from another supplier to complete the level  crossing gates though.

Hope you all have a good weekend

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

PS. When I fix the lamp, I must remember to fit the resistor  ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on March 02, 2019, 01:29:32 PM
Just had a thought Kevin.........



Might be a good idea to fit a resistor.

Donít forget.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 02, 2019, 02:18:30 PM
I look forward to the photos., Kevin. Fitting real red lights to a 2mm scale level crossing gate is a tremendous achievement.

By the way, you (and I) must remember to fit the resistor on the lights before installing!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on March 02, 2019, 03:05:44 PM
By the way, Kevin.......

























DONíT FORGET TO FIT THE RESISTOR!!! :no:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on March 02, 2019, 03:31:06 PM
Just a friendly word of warning Kevin, if you do not fit a resistor, the light will go 'phut' and stop working! Or so I have been led to believe ........ wouldn't know myself.  :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on March 02, 2019, 03:35:26 PM
So....donít resist  or....
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 02, 2019, 04:15:00 PM

Now who told you that David  ;) :D ;) :D ;) :D ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: themadhippy on March 02, 2019, 07:46:40 PM
Quote
the lamp installed.

Then  >:( :veryangry: >:(

A bright flash, and it fizzled out.

Someone (actually me ! ) took the resistor off the end of the wire to thread it through the baseboard hole, and forgot to wire it back in
Bet it wasnt as impressive as 24 1kw lamps being connected to 415V instead of 240V
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 02, 2019, 07:53:13 PM

 :o  Wow  :o

Got to see that at Cropredy in August if you're there  :D ;D :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 03, 2019, 07:41:14 AM
Remember Kevin,

Not fitting a resistor is futile, or something like that... :-[
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 17, 2019, 03:05:00 PM
Hi All,

Sorry not to have updated for a bit, but have been busy with other stuff.

I've not put the street light in yet, as I have been waiting for some tiny red led's for the level crossing gates, and wanted to do all the electrics  together.

Instead, I have made a new signal box  :D

This is the one I have, a kit bashed Ratio one .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-170319130219-750531425.jpeg)

Over time, working on the layout the windows have got really messed up, as well as the glazing not fitting correctly. Also the steps are a bit clunky, and the paint finish is not too good. Maybe I am being a bit over critical, but it is really noticeable in photos, and in real life as it is right at the front of the layout (although nothing is really that far away  ;) :D ;))

Anyway, while waiting for the electrics to arrive, which they have now, I decided to make a new signal box, but taking my time and not rushing it.

The first job was cutting the Ratio kit down to size ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-170319130234-750542140.jpeg)

Then I assembled it, leaving the back off. It was then painted without any glazing in, so I would not dirty the glass.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-170319130248-750551963.jpeg)

There was no door in the end wall of the kit, so I put one in, and made steps and rails from "Plastruct" styrene bits .... thinner than the rod used before ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-170319130335-75057995.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-170319130407-750581219.jpeg)

I then sorted the detailing. The signalmans dog was from a set of barbeque figures that included the deckchairs on the beach, and the barbeque the camper van girls are using. The signal box sign is etched on plastic from Scale Model Scenery, and the fire buckets from P & D Marsh.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-170319130430-750592243.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-170319130512-750601653.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-170319130531-750611786.jpeg)

The glazing was the last to go in. The front window glazing was not glued, but set between the levers and the shelf of whatever they are. For some reason I left the shelf out of the old box, but was not noticeable as you couldn't see through the windows anyway  :D :no: :D 

The glass on the end walls is held in with double sided tape, so it would not get clouded up with glue. The channel behind the stove is to hide the wires for the lighting, and the back window is covered over as it is directly against the embankment.

The lighting bar was then made ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-170319130610-750622311.jpeg)

It fits between the end walls, the wires run down the channel behind the stove, and the resistor (I did remember it  :D :D :D) is downstairs.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-170319130626-750631313.jpeg)

Then on with the roof .... with the front edge sanded down so as not to be as clunky as the last one, and gutters, downpipes and other bits added on ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-170319130650-750642487.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-170319130706-750651296.jpeg)

Hope you like the pics. I need to get some more ballast before I can set it on the layout. Until then it is in a very safe place so I don't faff around with it and spoil it. ;)

Also I have been finalising plans for my next layout. It's not going to be the harbour scene I had planned, but something quite different.  ;)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 17, 2019, 03:51:56 PM
Excellent work, Kevin. Well worth all the detailing. I hope to achieve something like the same level of detailing and lighting, in future. The piece of wood on the front bottom with the ramps was to clear point rodding, which you do not have any of, so could be omitted. 8-)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on March 17, 2019, 03:56:50 PM
That is stunning, Kevin. Smashing detail, down to the anti-macassar on the armchair. :goggleeyes:
One question please. Why does your signalman require a ships wheel? ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 17, 2019, 04:11:30 PM
Thanks Chris and Mick  ;)

I don't know much about signal boxes ..... or anything really  :-[ .... so thanks for that info Chris.

That bit of wood is in the way a bit, so I'm glad it could be taken off  :thumbsup:

As far as the ship's wheel .... that's what I thought it was, and it had strayed in from a model pirate ship. Perhaps I should have given the signalman a parrot rather than a dog  ;D

Apparently it is to operate the level crossing gates, so is a bit redundant 'till I get them put back  :)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on March 17, 2019, 06:47:11 PM
Brillant work Kevin.
An inspiration to us all.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on March 17, 2019, 07:27:50 PM
Brillant work Kevin.
An inspiration to us all.

Seconded on both counts!

The 'whatever they are' on the shelf are called block instruments.  These are important to make sure that two trains do not end up on the same bit of railway at the same time.  It's (normally) slightly different with signal boxes on single lines of railway, but that need not trouble us in 1:148 scale.

The shelf itself is often called a 'block shelf'.

You have a splendid example of the third most important thing in any signal box; a distinctly dodgy armchair!

Great stuff and I look forward to hearing about your next project.

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on March 17, 2019, 08:06:45 PM
Hi Kevin,

Great stuff as usual. love the detail.

Shame you're not going down the 'arbour route but then, on the plus side, you would put mine to shame.

Looking forward to more pics and your future build plans.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 17, 2019, 10:32:59 PM
Hi All,

Many thanks for that John  :thumbsup: Hope you and Poppy are well  ;)

Don't worry about the harbour Weave. It is just on hold. I have the harbour walls etc, and a trawler from Langley, an 04 shunter as that was one of the locos that operated on the Weymouth tramway, and a case to fit it all in.

Also I don't know about putting yours to shame ... It was yours and Martin's harbour scenes that inspired me to go along that route, (as well as living on a harbourside  ;) )

I have just postponed it while I try something a bit more unusual  :idea:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on March 17, 2019, 11:22:37 PM
Hi again Kevin,

Well, thank you.

I love Martin's harbour scene. My old and new need so much more work.

As I write, I am trying to make a Fruits de Mer open windowed take away on the ground floor of a German town house which looks sort of French for the Port Regleun IV layout. Very frustrating. It must be fun though otherwise I wouldn't keep doing (well trying to do) it.

Glad you're still going to do the 'arbour though. Also, intrigued by your other idea. Don't keep us all in suspense for too long.

Cheers me 'earty  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 18, 2019, 07:12:08 AM
Great signal box Kevin!  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on March 18, 2019, 01:09:27 PM

As far as the ship's wheel .... that's what I thought it was, and it had strayed in from a model pirate ship. Perhaps I should have given the signalman a parrot rather than a dog  ;D

Apparently it is to operate the level crossing gates, so is a bit redundant 'till I get them put back  :)


Ah yes. I do remember seeing some of those wheels and, in the main, they were dirty great polished black metal items. Yours is obviously the de luxe version ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: cornish yorkie on March 19, 2019, 04:00:45 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
    Superb signal box Kevin  :thumbsup:
Looking forward to hearing more on your future plans
    regards Derek
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 19, 2019, 04:52:16 PM
Thanks Derek,

Always good to hear from you  :)

I wish I had come across this forum, and the awesome people on it before I started on this, rather than half way through, as now I am fixing the dodgy bits using everything I have learnt since joining the gang here  :D :D :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

 :whisper:  The new project will be called "Crystal Falls"
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on March 19, 2019, 05:10:27 PM
Thanks Derek,

Always good to hear from you  :)

I wish I had come across this forum, and the awesome people on it before I started on this, rather than half way through, as now I am fixing the dodgy bits using everything I have learnt since joining the gang here  :D :D :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

 :whisper:  The new project will be called "Crystal Falls"
A waterfall is it?
If so, Iím about to try one of those on our club layout. Iíll be interested to see your approach.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 19, 2019, 05:26:36 PM
I'm also very interested in creating waterfalls as I have two on my layout which need finishing, this summer.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 20, 2019, 07:49:15 AM
According to my sources, heís going American! Crystal Falls is a city (! population 1469 in 2010) in Michigan. All sounds very rural. Interesting.  :D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on March 20, 2019, 08:01:59 AM
According to my sources, heís going American! Crystal Falls is a city (! population 1469 in 2010) in Michigan. All sounds very rural. Interesting.  :D


Well, that could be a VERY interesting setting. Iron mining, a turntable, a nice station layout, up to 27 saloons  :beers: for 3300 inhabitants,... ( http://www.michiganrailroads.com/stations-locations/100-iron-county-36/1000-crystal-falls-mi (http://www.michiganrailroads.com/stations-locations/100-iron-county-36/1000-crystal-falls-mi) )
Let's hope your reasoning is dead on  :heart2: :heart2:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Leon on March 20, 2019, 04:34:43 PM
I've enjoyed catching up with your thread, Keven. I've just returned from Frisco, Texas - named for the St. Louis - San Francisco Railway which ran through the small town (now 155,000+) before being acquired by Burlington Northern. Every street sign in the town has the Frisco Railway logo (which I recall from the railroad running through the middle of my childhood hometown in Arkansas).

Leon
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on March 20, 2019, 05:12:24 PM
:whisper:  The new project will be called "Crystal Falls"

Oh no :doh: She been at the Vino Collapso again? ::)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 20, 2019, 06:55:42 PM
Hi All,

Well, there's a bit of speculation going on there  :D :D

Thanks for the info Keith and Alexander ( glad your eye problem is showing signs of improvement Keith).

I did not know about Crystal Falls Michigan.... I must do a bit of investigation  :hmmm:

Today has been a bit pointless. I lost a little bit of a kit this morning, and spent all day searching on my hands and knees for it. No luck, but was able to make a replacement from a bit of brass I luckily had.

The end result was the room is now clean and tidy, and I can see the floor  :thumbsup:

For Chris and Martin, here are a couple of links to waterfalls .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1QtnvgxFKA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1QtnvgxFKA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ovNbnjRUNQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ovNbnjRUNQ)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on March 20, 2019, 07:37:46 PM
Hi All,

Well, there's a bit of speculation going on there  :D :D

Thanks for the info Keith and Alexander ( glad your eye problem is showing signs of improvement Keith).

I did not know about Crystal Falls Michigan.... I must do a bit of investigation  :hmmm:

Today has been a bit pointless. I lost a little bit of a kit this morning, and spent all day searching on my hands and knees for it. No luck, but was able to make a replacement from a bit of brass I luckily had.

The end result was the room is now clean and tidy, and I can see the floor  :thumbsup:

For Chris and Martin, here are a couple of links to waterfalls .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1QtnvgxFKA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1QtnvgxFKA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ovNbnjRUNQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ovNbnjRUNQ)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Thanks for the link Kevin.
I know what you mean about searching for things. Iíve been searching for my jar of matt varnish this afternoon. I know itís here somewhere but where it is I know not. Iíll try again in the morning and if I canít find it Iíll go get another.
Of course, then the old one will turn up.

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 20, 2019, 10:38:42 PM
 :laugh3: :claphappy: WOW ...... Over 500 little heart shaped rates .....  :claphappy: :laugh3:

Flippin' 'eck ......over 500 (501 at this time) likes for a layout no bigger than a pocket handkerchief  :D

As I saw the 500 milestone coming up, I thought as a thank you for all the help, encouragement, and giggles along the way, whoever gave the 500th like would get a little pressie  ;)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-200319222239-751641603.jpeg)

The "Windmill Hill Mug" will be sent to ........


























Chris in Prague !

Who gave the 500th like this evening. Thank you (and everyone else) for all your help.

Just message me Chris with your address, and I will get the mug in the post to you  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 21, 2019, 05:40:54 AM
Many thanks, Kevin. I am truly honoured. (I'll PM you, later, today.) Yours is such a lovely, inspirational beautifully photographed and videoed little layout that it is a very great pleasure to follow its progress.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 21, 2019, 02:16:07 PM
Hi All,

Congratulations Chris .... I wish I could send everyone mugs, but the 500th commentator seemed appropriate  :D

You know when decorating at home, and you paint a window frame white, then the door frames look bad, so need painting .... then the  skirting boards ..... etc etc etc  ::)

I had the model railway equivalent. The nice new glazing in the signal box really showed up the dirty pub windows  :doh:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-210319135141-75196754.jpeg)

So I prized the roof off (loosing one of the dormer window roofs, so had to make another one  :-[) and replaced the windows ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-210319135135-751802076.jpeg)

The back bar scene was cut from a Wetherspoons magazine .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-210319135138-75195939.jpeg)

Then the floor was hoovered (static grass really does get everywhere  ;) ) and the roof was replaced ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-210319135143-751971707.jpeg)

And now you can see in. The restaurant area on the left, bar on the right  :thumbsup:

The guttering snapped so needs replacing, but I need a trip into town to get some maroon paint first.

I have ordered some ballast so I can bed the new signal box in, but next job is the lamp by the station, and the very fiddly job of level crossing lights on the gates. :worried:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daffy on March 21, 2019, 02:55:26 PM
Well, the idea of a mug for the 500th ❤️ is simply superb, Kevin. :thumbsup:

And all that attention to detail is what sets you apart and makes all of us stand in awe, applauding your efforts, and, in my case at least, wishing some of the magic would rub off so that these clumsy fingers and wayward eyes would do their masters bidding a bit more often! :D

Hereís to the 1000th ❤️. :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bob Tidbury on March 21, 2019, 03:06:09 PM
Phoenix ,You have the same idea as me the scenery and details are what turn a TRAIN SET into a MODEL RAILWAY no matter what size it is ,and you have just proved the point ,really nice modelling I wish I had your talent but I do my best and Iím proud of what Iíve done on my layout .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on March 21, 2019, 03:27:29 PM
Kevin.
Your attention to detail is fantastic.
That bottom picture where you can see into the pub is brillant.
You have certainly been an inspiration to me. Iím really looking forward to Crystal Falls.
And the good news.....I bought another bottle of matt varnish this morning.
So far, the old one hasnít turned up.
Regards
Martin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: cornish yorkie on March 21, 2019, 08:20:40 PM
 :( :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:
   All I can add is WOW, superb attention to detail Kevin
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 21, 2019, 09:19:42 PM
:( :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:
   All I can add is WOW, superb attention to detail Kevin
       regards Derek.

Seconded! Something to aspire to!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 22, 2019, 07:28:16 AM
Excellent!  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 23, 2019, 11:11:44 AM
Hi All,

Thank you so  much for all your kind comments  :D ....I really enjoy the detailing and scenic side of modelling.

As Bob says, it adds so much to a layout, and I love Stonehouse. The schoolhouse looks so natural with the activity going on in the playground, and showground and safari park are excellent.  :thumbsup:

The guttering is now on the pub, and this weekend I will be VERY carefully  :worried:, and VERY slowly  :worried:  finishing adding lights to the level crossing gates.

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

PS. Glad you got the varnish Martin.

PPS. I've just got to find a box, and will sent the mug off to you next week Chris


Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 23, 2019, 11:21:15 AM
Many thanks, Kevin. No problem.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on March 24, 2019, 08:54:11 AM
Lovely work with the signal box Kevin, look forward to seeing you complete the level crossing gates .... will that be the layout finally finished at that point ?  :D

The Windmill Hill mug that graces the offices of the PRPS has yet to be christened... it is just too nice to use!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on March 24, 2019, 12:55:23 PM
Hi Andrew,
 
Yes, that should see Windmill finished.  ::)

I thought it was finished ages ago, but the "settling down" process messed up the backscene and a few other bits.

As I have said before ...... I wish I had known what I know now before starting building, and not found the forum half way through  ;)

Also, now I know what the next project is I can get on with that instead of keeping faffing around on Windmill Hill.

Incidentally, when Chris gets his mug, there will be Windmill Hill mugs in 4 different countries .....a global product  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Leon on March 24, 2019, 06:59:18 PM
Incidentally, when Chris gets his mug, there will be Windmill Hill mugs in 4 different countries .....a global product  :D

Kevin, perhaps you've already thought of it and done it, but there are probably a lot of gift shops that would be happy to sell that mug! Not least of all the one at Didcot.

Leon
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on April 02, 2019, 02:07:58 PM
Hi All,

Sorry not to reply sooner Leon. I used to work the odd weekend at Didcot, so I know the set up there. If I were to sell any mugs, I  think the interest would only be from people who know me, or my friends here who have followed along, and been part of the adventure.  ;)

I may well check out interest and prices, and talk with Tank about selling some here, with proceeds going to the forum as a thank you for all the help given to me here, and offset at least some of the costs incurred with the awesome reboot of the site  :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bob Tidbury on April 02, 2019, 02:23:41 PM
  :sorrysign:   I havnt replied sooner Phoenix ,but Thankyou for your kind comments on my layout ,as Iíve said many times to me and it appears to be your opinion as well that the scenery is just as important as the actual railway ,in fact I have had friends round for a running session and they have operated the layout while I have been working on the scenery ,I think itís very therapeutic and relaxing to create it , my recent additions were done on Saturday when I managed to get some climbing roses ,Hydrangeas ,cabbages and tomato plants planted in various gardens and a bigger car park for one of the pubs .i still have lots of flowers and red cabbages and  cauliflowers  to plant on the next warm day .some of the flowers will go into the garden Center that I have put on the branch line board , there is allways something else that needs to be done ,I doubt that my layout will ever be completely finished .
And your little layout just shows what can be done in a small place itís brilliant .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on April 02, 2019, 03:41:07 PM
Hi All,

Seems we are both on the same wavelength there Bob  :D :thumbsup:  :D

Not much to report as far as progress goes .... I'm taking things slow, as one thing I have learnt is not to rush things, as if I do there is a strong possibility of not ending up happy with it, and having to do it all over again :-[

Also I had a bit of a break, and went to stay with Mum and Dad for a few days over the Mother's Day Weekend. Had a lovely time, and got back this morning.

In the post was a parcel from Hattons. The box is just the right size for your mug Chris, so that can now get sent off  :thumbsup:

The layout is now tucked up in it's case ......

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-020419141053-755632211.jpeg)

I've got friends staying for a while, so lots  of housework going on, and the modelling room is now back as a bedroom so no modelling for a bit  :(

Never mind though, at least my friends do bring whiskey and do the washing up  :D ;D :D

Meanwhile here are some of my favourite Windmill Hill photos. Apologies if you have seen them before, but I hope you like them .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-020419141055-75564944.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-020419141048-75562356.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-020419141047-755612467.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-020419141045-755601184.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-020419141044-75559945.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-020419141040-755551866.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/75/5755-020419141040-755552232.jpeg)

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 02, 2019, 03:49:19 PM
Many thanks, Kevin. A lovely selection of photos. and the imminent despatch of the mug is good news. It's well worth waiting for a good cardboard box and using plenty of packing around it and in it. 8-)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on April 12, 2019, 01:48:04 PM
Hi All,

Hope everyone is well  ;)

Well my guests have now gone, I've got my railway room back, but life has gone a bit boobies up at the moment, so haven't got time to do anything in it  :(

Some of you may know my income comes from property I let out, and have been having huge problems with one of my tenants at the moment. This resulted in them leaving owing £900 rent, which the deposit thankfully covers, but the place has been left in a real state, so time is now being spent clearing up, decorating, and getting the place respectable for viewing.

Who would ever be a landlord  :( >:( :(

Anyway, I hope to be finishing the level crossing lights, and bedding the new signal box in, just to relax and calm down.

I will photo installing the lights in the crossing gates as I go along, and put up a "how I did it" thread.

All best wishes
Kevin

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on April 12, 2019, 02:55:42 PM
Apologies if you have seen them before, but I hope you like them .....


A lot of us like to see your photo's again Kevin, (some photo's more than others  :) , I am saying nowt else!  ;)).

Shame about the mess left behind by the tenants - just shows a lack of respect.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: cornish yorkie on April 12, 2019, 08:38:27 PM
 :hellosign:  Looking forward to more when you can Kevin, life can be a right  :censored: at times
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 12, 2019, 08:58:49 PM
Apologies if you have seen them before, but I hope you like them .....


A lot of us like to see your photo's again Kevin, (some photo's more than others  :) , I am saying nowt else!  ;)).

Shame about the mess left behind by the tenants - just shows a lack of respect.

Seconded!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 16, 2019, 07:19:01 AM
Many thanks, Kevin, for the lovely Windmill Hill mug which safely arrived, yesterday.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on April 16, 2019, 08:20:36 AM
Dunno if you've been following my Japanese thread Kevin, but you'd be hard pushed to fit your layout into my daughter's Japanese apartment!  ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on April 16, 2019, 11:48:07 PM
Hi George,

I always follow what you are up to, since discovering a video documentary about you and your layout, and have been enjoying your layout restoration work.

So glad you are out of hospital now, and getting back together.  :D :beers: :D

Should your daughter want a layout in her apartment, sorry Windmill Hill won't fit, try this one .....



All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on April 17, 2019, 03:03:30 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

Now that is uber cool. Let it never be said "I don't have room for a model railway!"

Thanks for the good wishes. I'm still in a lot of pain and on crutches, but at least I'm out of hospital.  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Innovationgame on April 17, 2019, 06:40:51 AM
Hi George,

I always follow what you are up to, since discovering a video documentary about you and your layout, and have been enjoying your layout restoration work.

So glad you are out of hospital now, and getting back together.  :D :beers: :D

Should your daughter want a layout in her apartment, sorry Windmill Hill won't fit, try this one ....

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
What a fantastic model!
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on April 18, 2019, 07:21:29 PM
Hi All,

Still trying to sort out the mess left by my tenants ..... It took five of us two days to get the place clean enough to get the cleaners in ....  but I have done a bit of modelling just to relax myself  ;)

I got the lights in the level crossing gates working, ready to install, and here they are lit up  :D

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/76/5755-180419190635-76318414.jpeg)

I will put together a tutorial on how I did it if I get a chance to tomorrow  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on April 18, 2019, 07:24:21 PM
Looks to be a very professional Job  :thumbsup:. I would appreciate knowing how you did the gates.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Train Waiting on April 18, 2019, 07:44:55 PM
Still trying to sort out the mess left by my tenants ..... It took five of us two days to get the place clean enough to get the cleaners in .... 

!!!

Best wishes

John
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on April 18, 2019, 07:47:50 PM
So sorry to read about the despicable actions of your former tenants Kevin.
Hopefully you will be back to normal soon with a new set of well behaved guests.
Meanwhile, those lights on the level crossing gates are amazing - an excellent way to relax.
Might I suggest a session in one of your harbourside hostelries as an additional tonic  :beers:

All the best
Martin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 18, 2019, 07:48:54 PM
Amazing work, Kevin. Those gates are a marvel in 2mm Scale.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: cornish yorkie on April 18, 2019, 08:28:27 PM
Amazing work, Kevin. Those gates are a marvel in 2mm Scale.
:hellosign: Gotta agree superb modelling
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on April 18, 2019, 08:57:16 PM
Cheers guys,

Funnily enough Martin, I'm just of to imbibe now   :pint: :pint: :pint:

I will try to get the gates tutorial up tomorrow, and just a note to Chris ..... I should have messaged you to let you know, but your mug got sent last week, so is on it's way  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:


Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 18, 2019, 09:00:04 PM
Cheers guys,

Funnily enough Martin, I'm just of to imbibe now   :pint: :pint: :pint:

I will try to get the gates tutorial up tomorrow, and just a note to Chris ..... I should have messaged you to let you know, but your mug got sent last week, so is on it's way  :thumbsup:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Many thanks, Kevin, for the lovely Windmill Hill mug which safely arrived, on the 15th, as I posted, here, the day after.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on April 18, 2019, 09:26:50 PM
Smashing bit of modelling with the gates, Kevin, and I'm so glad you got rid of those  :censored: who have no respect for the property of others.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on April 18, 2019, 11:39:27 PM
Yes, glad you got that nasty business sorted. Have a beer for me!!  :beers:

As to how you did the crossing lights, I already know -

Black magic, that's how!!! I can't see any fibre optics or wires!  :uneasy:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on April 19, 2019, 08:03:31 AM
Ditto to all the above comments and compliments.  :thumbsup:

Look forward to you How To in due course.

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on April 19, 2019, 01:18:40 PM
 :hellosign:

Thanks for all your messages ..... Thankfully I am getting all of the tenancy deposit back, which covers new carpets, and towards a professional clean, then out with the paint to redecorate ready for showing.

Before I forget, over on the electronics page I will put the gate lights tutorial up. I will do that now, then come back here and put a link to it  :thumbsup:

Sorry I missed your post Chris .... with all the hassle I've missed a few things here, but glad you got the mug safe, and thank you for all your help   :D

All bet wishes
Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on April 19, 2019, 03:10:42 PM
Hi All,

Just finished the "adding lights to gates" guide. Here is the link ....

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=45048.new#new (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=45048.new#new)

Enjoy  :D :D :D

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on April 19, 2019, 08:25:50 PM
Hi All,

After putting up the gates tutorial, I went back to the house and cleared out 14 bags of rubbish, so things are getting there.

Currently chillin' out with a big bottle of cider, pizza, and got a couple of films to watch on youtube  :D :D :D

Have a great Easter everyone  :claphappy:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on April 19, 2019, 08:29:29 PM
Hi All,

After putting up the gates tutorial, I went back to the house and cleared out 14 bags of rubbish, so things are getting there.

Currently chillin' out with a big bottle of cider, pizza, and got a couple of films to watch on youtube  :D :D :D

Have a great Easter everyone  :claphappy:

All best wishes
Kevin

 :beers:
Sounds perfect. Enjoy your evening.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 20, 2019, 11:19:44 AM
Very glad that you got that very unpleasant situation tackled. Have a great Easter weekend. I hope there will be some trains running.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on June 18, 2019, 08:41:30 PM
I see in the July issue of Railway Modeller they are starting a series on micro layouts. As such I have PMd Kevin and urged him to put Windmill Hill forward for inclusion. The forum has a great record of supplying layouts to feature in RM so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Leon on June 18, 2019, 09:19:52 PM
The last I heard from Kevin he was "chillin' out with a big bottle of cider, pizza, and ... a couple of films to watch on youtube". He deserved the break but now needs to face the challenge of spotlighting Windmill Hill at RM. Full speed ahead, Kevin! You also deserve wider recognition for an outstanding achievement.

Leon
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on June 18, 2019, 11:30:53 PM
Wot they both said.  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 19, 2019, 08:02:56 AM
Hi Kevin, just caught up with the latest news (I was on holiday in April).

Very sorry to hear about the tenants from hell, hope that you are well on the way to getting everything sorted for a re-let.

Great lights on the gates, amazing.  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 02, 2019, 02:21:12 PM
Hi All

Thanks Mick, and Leon thank you for your kind words. :D :D :D

I still have to put the street lamp and level crossing gates in, but have been occupied just now with tidying up the top layer, and getting some photos to update the "how I made Windmill Hill" book, to send to Steve Flint.

Hopefully Windmill Hill will reach a wider audience, it's certainly portable enough to get around a bit, and show you can get a nice "roundy round" layout in a space not big enough to swing a mouse, let alone a cat  :D

Here is a photo of the windmill and pub ......

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5755-020719141245-791091432.jpeg)

I took it with this big background in place, which means I can get more of the layout in......and being further away means not so many mistakes show up  ;)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5755-301218203043-727741204.jpeg)

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on July 02, 2019, 02:31:56 PM
diminutive it may be, but never fails to impress with big impact  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on July 02, 2019, 03:49:02 PM
Fabulous Kevin.
Looks great with the larger background.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on July 02, 2019, 03:52:16 PM
That larger background certainly makes a difference.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 02, 2019, 04:53:28 PM
That larger background certainly makes a difference.  :thumbsup:

Seconded! Just when you think the layout can get no better ... it does! 8-)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on July 05, 2019, 03:35:01 PM
Hi All,

So glad you liked that last picture. Having that bigger background really helps in taking better pictures. It is my birthday next month, so I hope to get that better camera I have been promising myself, and will maybe try getting to grips with focus stacking.  :hmmm:

Meanwhile continuing with the tidy up. I have not yet finished the level crossing gates and that end of the station, so here is a shot of the other end. The new sign is an HO scale one from Model Railway Scenery.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5755-040719152451-791472323.jpeg)

Their N gauge signs are too small for a station, but perfect for a signal box.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/79/5755-050719152559-79181206.jpeg)

No modelling tomorrow as I'm going with a couple of friends to the station to see steam locomotive 35018 "British India Line" many thanks to crewearpley40 for the heads up on that as there has been no local information

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on July 05, 2019, 04:02:55 PM
35018 will be back at Weymouth on Tuesday Kevin if you want to pop down to see her again.
Martin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on July 05, 2019, 05:17:06 PM
35018 will be back at Weymouth on Tuesday Kevin if you want to pop down to see her again.
Martin

Duh.....I meant to add the times for Tuesday.
Arrives 15.25 from Yeovil Pen Mill (probably diesel at the front and Merchant Navy at the rear).
Departs at 17.39 for Victoria (no doubt with 35018 leading)
Hope that is helpful.

Martin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 04, 2019, 02:41:52 PM
 :hellosign:

Hi All

I sort of lost a bit of enthusiasm for a while, what with other things going on, but now am well into finally getting the last (very fiddly) bits done on Windmill Hill.  :D

Those that remember what I was last doing, ( It seems so long ago  :-[) I had added LEDs to a set of level crossing gates, and was sorting out the road area ready to install them.

This was the area .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/5755-030918203442-68669450.jpeg)

I was thinking of taking the tree by the station building out, and fitting a lamp post in somewhere. The general feeling of you lovely people  :thumbsup: was add a lamp post, and keep the tree, but make it smaller.

I checked out various lamp posts, and wow ... what a difference in szie they can be. All these are N scale   :confused1:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/5755-040819143142-802011964.jpeg)

So the tree and bed of hydrangeas were dug up and replanted with smaller ones, the road resurfaced ready for the gates, and a lamp post installed and the pavement and station end cleaned up.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/5755-040819143143-802012220.jpeg)

I'm very happy with the result :D  so am now set to install the illuminated gates ..... I will keep you updated. I hope to have them in over the next couple of days  :thumbsup:

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers:



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on August 04, 2019, 02:58:25 PM
I'm glad you went for the LH one of the three as it looks 'right' to me, Kevin.
The other 2 look just too tall :hmmm:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: GreyWolf on August 04, 2019, 03:09:06 PM
Quote from: Phoenix
:hellosign:

... am well into finally getting the last (very fiddly) bits done on Windmill Hill.  :D

... The general feeling of you lovely people  :thumbsup: was add a lamp post, and keep the tree, but make it smaller.

I checked out various lamp posts, and wow ... what a difference in szie they can be. All these are N scale   :confused1:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/5755-040819143142-802011964.jpeg)


To miss quote Dr. Jones Snr. "Very illuminating!" I've been seeing lots of this type of thing with kits too, and thinking 'Is it me, or are these just the wrong size'!?

Quote from: Phoenix
So the tree and bed of hydrangeas were dug up and replanted with smaller ones, the road resurfaced ready for the gates, and a lamppost installed and pavement and station end cleaned up.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/5755-040819143143-802012220.jpeg)

I'm very happy with the result :D  so am now set to install the illuminated gates ..... I will keep you updated. I hope to have them in over the next couple of days  :thumbsup:

Glad you've got your enthusiasm back Kevin! Always great to see your updates. Lampost and tree are perfect. Looking forward to seeing level crossing gates ... illuminated !!

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 09, 2019, 10:00:27 AM
Perfect, Kevin. That little corner now looks even better. Alas, even the smallest working 'N Scale' lampposts are over scale size.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on August 09, 2019, 10:13:24 AM
They are indeed. The N ones on my layout have gow bulbs!!

That lamp you've put in looks like a Ratio one....

You been up to your LED magic, again, Kevin?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 12, 2019, 12:41:56 PM
Hi Guys,

Hope you are all well and had a good weekend  :D

Not much to report as I have been up in Oxfordshire for a music festival and only got back yesterday.

We had a great time, luckily It only rained once, and that was during the night, so we had to go to the pub the following morning to dry out  :beers:

Loads of fun was had, and got a chance for just a quick chat ( he was working) with the Mad Hippy ...... good to meet you mate  :thumbsup:

Back to the railway now. Thank you all for your comments. You are right it is so difficult to find lights to scale, and as my photo showed, what a variation in size  :confused1:

I am pleased with the ones I used, which were from "Railroom Electronics". They are a great shop to deal with. Ade is very helpful over the phone, and this was the light I used, painted black ....

https://www.railroomelectronics.co.uk/Station-Street-Yard-Lamps/N-Gauge/Station-Street-Lamps/Product-84675.aspx (https://www.railroomelectronics.co.uk/Station-Street-Yard-Lamps/N-Gauge/Station-Street-Lamps/Product-84675.aspx)

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: themadhippy on August 12, 2019, 01:46:48 PM
Quote
(he was working)
Oi, stop spreading vicious rumours.
 Good to see you again,maybe next time we can chat without having to shout over some band making a racket.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 12, 2019, 02:35:49 PM
Thanks, Kevin, for the link to those excellent lamps.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2019, 03:18:01 PM
Quote
(he was working)
Oi, stop spreading vicious rumours.
 Good to see you again,maybe next time we can chat without having to shout over some band making a racket.

Cropredy, at a guess?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: GreyWolf on August 12, 2019, 07:25:58 PM
Thanks, Kevin, for the link to those excellent lamps.

Wot he said  :thumbsup:

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Leon on August 12, 2019, 07:50:11 PM

I am pleased with the ones I used, which were from "Railroom Electronics". They are a great shop to deal with. Ade is very helpful over the phone, and this was the light I used, painted black ....

Kevin, I think I can find a place for one or more of those - and I'm not adding lighting to my layout! It looks really good on your layout.

Leon
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 13, 2019, 01:06:15 PM
Hi All,

Yes Mick, it was Cropredy, and The Mad Hippy is at one of the "Fringe" venues. We were quite lucky with the weather, and got our tents up the first day in the dry, and down on the last day in the dry. The first day was red hot, then the heavens opened during the night, and that was the only rain we had, and all had dried out by the time we left.

I have now got the first set of gates in, and by the time the second set is installed, my camera battery should have charged so will put the pics up.

One thing I am not sure about is the road markings .....In the era I am modelling it all seems a bit hap hazzard so will use tape, so I can take them up if needed.

I will go along with Martin's rule of thumb "if it looks right it probably is"

That seems to have worked so far  :thumbsup:

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers: :beers:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 14, 2019, 08:17:59 PM
Hi All,

Have been a bit busy so not had a chance to get the other set of gates in yet, but I thought you might like to see the first set installed  ;) :D ;)

Here they are in place .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/5755-140819194057-80454426.jpeg)

And with the light on .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/5755-140819194057-804541769.jpeg)

I'm not very good photographing lights, so tried again with the room lights dimmer and a different camera setting .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/5755-140819194105-804571066.jpeg)

And with the new street lamp on as well .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/5755-140819194105-80457911.jpeg)

At the last level crossing the pavement, road, and rail top were more or less at the same height, so the gates could close and stay level. however this made cleaning the rails difficult without spoiling the road surface, and some wagons had a jiggly ride.  :hmmm:

This time the road and pavement are lower, so the track can be cleaned easier. This means when the gates are closed, they  are at a bit of an angle to clear the track  :worried: .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/5755-140819194108-804592064.jpeg)

This I am OK with though, as the gates will very rarely be shut, and I think it is more important to have smooth running and be able to clean the track  :D

Hope you like the pics. To give a bit of info re. the road signs you can see. I tried cutting the triangle and sign from Sankey signs and mounting them on a bit of wire, but it was so fiddly, and I messed up loads  :-[

Then after a bit of internet searching I found these ....

https://www.detailmatters.co.uk/N_scale_Vintage_road_traffic_signs,_speed_etc,_-_etched_brass_-_pack_of_4/p2155294_9808440.aspx (https://www.detailmatters.co.uk/N_scale_Vintage_road_traffic_signs,_speed_etc,_-_etched_brass_-_pack_of_4/p2155294_9808440.aspx)

They are brass etched,ready painted, and if you have a sheet of Sankey signs it is easy to take off the sign supplied, and glue another on the tiny brass plate on the sign post.

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers:





Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 14, 2019, 08:29:26 PM
kevin - impressive. what did you use for the crossing lights please ? thanks- chris
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 14, 2019, 08:40:07 PM
 :hellosign:

Hi Chris,

Glad you like these. I have a guide to how I made the lights on the gates here ....

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=45048.msg564457#msg564457 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=45048.msg564457#msg564457)

It was a bit fiddly, but then so is everything in N Gauge  ;) :D ;)

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 14, 2019, 08:41:34 PM
thank you very much appreciated
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on August 14, 2019, 09:37:08 PM
This is the Hall Lane crossing in Bradford, (now gone), the other side of the crossing is even steeper. I am just posting a link as the photographed is copyrighted.

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwicmcPKmYPkAhUPTBUIHXjnAssQjRx6BAgBEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.geograph.org.uk%2Fphoto%2F1845503&psig=AOvVaw1CSboEBwa4JMYriJ-VFt1h&ust=1565900820551321 (https://www.google.ie/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwicmcPKmYPkAhUPTBUIHXjnAssQjRx6BAgBEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.geograph.org.uk%2Fphoto%2F1845503&psig=AOvVaw1CSboEBwa4JMYriJ-VFt1h&ust=1565900820551321)

Now that is uneven! When I was a Police Officer, I went to the crossing a few times due to vehicles grounding.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: GreyWolf on August 15, 2019, 06:17:16 PM
Looks really great Kevin, and thanks for the link ... I've added it to my "Trains-Stuff" bookmarks!
Likes this too https://www.detailmatters.co.uk/Belisha_Beacons_and_printed_zebra_crossing_N_scale/p2155294_17779029.aspx (https://www.detailmatters.co.uk/Belisha_Beacons_and_printed_zebra_crossing_N_scale/p2155294_17779029.aspx)

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on August 19, 2019, 11:23:31 PM
Hi All,

Glad you like the link to the signs Greywolf, they are so much easier than cutting all the bits out of a sheet of sankeys signs ...especially cutting that little triangle at the top  ;)

I have just finished adding the second set of gates, and doing the road markings. In this pic you can see the front of a sign.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/5755-190819231053-80606310.jpeg)

The gate lights are not wired in yet, but I hope to do that tomorrow, so will put some pics up, with some pics of the gates over the track as well.

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on August 20, 2019, 02:14:03 AM
That is such a neat job Kevin and yes, those signs are superb.
Martin
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 21, 2019, 07:54:16 AM
Great modelling Kevin.  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 02, 2019, 04:21:34 PM
Hi All,

Unfortunately nothing to report as there has been no progress, just a few steps back  :worried:

When I wired in the second set of gates, bugger, the light did not work. I'm not sure why, all I can guess is one of the wires to the LED must have broken. Another thought was maybe the soldering iron heat travelling down the very fine wire may have damaged the LED, but I was SO careful to keep the iron in contact for only a fraction of a second (like I did for the other one)  :hmmm:

Anyway, I ordered new LEDs, fitted a new one in a new gate over the weekend, and when I switched on the soldering iron, Grrrrr ! It was not working   :doh:

The end result Sunday was spent drinking cheap cider, and ending up falling down the stairs  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

No damage though  :D :beers: :D

Today was spent hunting out a few things to send to a friend on here, and while doing so I found this.......

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/5755-020919161822-810531965.jpeg)

It was part of "Windmill Hill" ages ago, but taken out as it did not look right.

Anyone any idea where it was located ??

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on September 02, 2019, 05:21:23 PM
Next to the track...??  :D

Looks to me to be too good to waste - could be the start of another layout. Windmill quay?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on September 02, 2019, 05:51:16 PM
Glad you did not damage the stairs.   ;D
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on September 02, 2019, 09:03:54 PM

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/5755-020919161822-810531965.jpeg)

It was part of "Windmill Hill" ages ago, but taken out as it did not look right.

Anyone any idea where it was located ??

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers:

Looks like at some point it may have butted up against the LH tunnel portal :hmmm:


The end result Sunday was spent drinking cheap cider, and ending up falling down the stairs  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[


One benefit of living in a bungalow :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on September 02, 2019, 09:40:21 PM
Hi Kevin,

Glad you're OK. Been there, hospital T shirt to prove etc. The trick, I've been told, is to drink expensive cider and then you only fall up the stairs as you can't afford to drink enough to come flying back down again  :thumbsup:

I've still got bits of chipped bone in my elbows where I fell feet first and decided to use them as ski poles.

I blamed the carpet, the stairs, the lighting, the imaginary toys and pets but NO, apparently, it was the cider. What can you do when your friends lie to you?  ;)  :D

Take care.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: themadhippy on September 02, 2019, 10:11:52 PM
Quote
and then you only fall up the stairs
And break your shoulder when you put your arm out to stop the fall,however do  note no cider was involved in the breaking of said shoulder.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 02, 2019, 11:59:15 PM
I fell down ... I got up again ... A'int never gonna stop my railway  :D

So where was this ?

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/5755-020919161822-810531965.jpeg)

All best wihes

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on September 03, 2019, 08:11:52 AM
Was it where the stable is opposite the station?
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on September 03, 2019, 08:47:28 AM
NPN suggested near the tunnel, and I tend to agree.

Cheap cider.... reminds me of my 21st in Cheddar, when they had to get me down from a Bleisha beacon (that can't be spelt right) after spending me birthday drinking scrumpy  :beers:

As dannyboy says, glad the stairs are alright  ;)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on September 03, 2019, 09:54:43 AM
Very much OT but I recall PCF on one of our visits telling me and @Malc (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=497) that he'd fallen down the stairs.

He was unhurt but landed awkwardly - upside down.

We all had a good laugh when I suggested that Susan had him fitted with a motorcyclist airbag.

Perhaps a worthwhile investment for future events, Kevin?  :D

BTW. Love Windmill Hill.  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Milton Rail on September 04, 2019, 09:04:02 AM
Great work with the gates & tidy up, sorry to hear the second one wasn't working ... good luck with the repair
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 04, 2019, 06:27:59 PM
Hi All,

Well, Mick was right ...... I originally had a bigger tunnel portal on the left side

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-311017150502-57509460.jpeg)

and  that little platform assembly was inside the tunnel, on the inside of the track oval instead of the hut where it is now. I have no idea why I thought that was a good idea, apart from the fact there was a far better clearance for my autocoach.

I've been looking for any pictures of it in place, but can't find any at all.

Anyway, I think it looks better with a smaller tunnel portal, even though clearances are VERY tight, and the hut where it is now .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/5755-040919182219-81094993.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/5755-160418200411-642571197.jpeg)

Off to B&Q now to get a new soldering iron to wire in the other level crossing gates now the LED is replaced

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on September 04, 2019, 07:50:40 PM

I've been looking for any pictures of it in place, but can't find any at all.


You mean I wasted 3 hours of my time this morning?  :censored:  ;)

Actually, it wasn't wasted, I enjoyed seeing how the layout has progressed.  :)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on September 04, 2019, 09:01:08 PM
Hi All,

Well, Mick was right ...... I originally had a bigger tunnel portal on the left side

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/5755-311017150502-57509460.jpeg)


@Phoenix (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5755)
Ah - but was Mick right? That looks suspiciously like the right side portal :confused2:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 04, 2019, 09:08:15 PM
Ooops  :-[ :-[

I think think that bump on the head when I bounced down the stairs confused my few remaining brain cells  :D ;) :D

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: dannyboy on September 04, 2019, 09:19:23 PM
The mirror trick was brought into play again.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 17, 2019, 09:18:15 PM
Hi All,

Sorry not to have updated for a while, but all is running smoothly now, and for the second time, I can say Windmill Hill is finished  :D ;) :D

The level crossing lights are installed and working well, so here are some pics .......

The gates ......

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/5755-190819231053-80606310.jpeg)

And with the lights on .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/5755-170919201134-816561463.jpeg)

Here are some daylight shots of the gates with some trains. I have not tried to disguise the backscene or baseboard edges, so you can sort of judge the size of the layout.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/5755-170919201137-81663112.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/5755-170919201137-816631562.jpeg)

That was the goods train I have, here is a shot with the passenger train ...

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/5755-170919201142-816651044.jpeg)

The gate lights are in the same circuit as the yard / signal box, and the street lamp is on the same circuit as the station lights.

You can see that clearly from the wiring here  :D :D :D :D :D

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/5755-080618204625-661962247.jpeg)

The passenger train passing, and the crossing and street lights on .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/5755-170919201145-816661150.jpeg)

On that last photo, you can see the reflection of the gates in the mirror at the back of the road bridge. This shows on all low level photos, but not when viewing the layout in real life. To stop this showing in photos I put a piece of black felt over the mirror ....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/5755-170919201150-816682404.jpeg)

Hope you like the photos (and I am sure you have spotted the trains are all without their crews  ;) )

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers:

One more pic I forgot to include .....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/5755-170919201148-816661583.jpeg)
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on September 17, 2019, 09:36:11 PM
Just beautyfull.  :claphappy:
What can you say more.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: cornish yorkie on September 17, 2019, 10:09:31 PM
 :hellosign:
   I'll second that.
        regards Derek.
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Newportnobby on September 17, 2019, 10:27:27 PM
Wonderful :heart2:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Bealman on September 17, 2019, 10:57:26 PM
Cool.  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: keithbythe sea on September 18, 2019, 06:52:11 AM
Fabulous!  :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: port perran on September 18, 2019, 07:54:03 AM
Lovely work
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: daveg on September 18, 2019, 11:58:57 AM
Cracking set of photos and I think the gate lamps are brilliant.  :thumbsup:

Having declared Windmill Hill finished, can't wait to see what's next!

Dave G
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 18, 2019, 03:58:53 PM
Hi All,

 :thankyousign:

Thanks for all your kind comments, and I do believe Windmill Hill is finally completed.  :claphappy

As I have said before, there have been a few trials on the way, mostly re-doing things that were not done quite right as I did them before finding this forum. (re-laying track is just one example, as is problems I had with the backscene)

Next step is to send the rolling stock to TMC for weathering. I am not happy with doing it myself yet, especially locos, and I don't want to bugger anything up now everything runs so well  :worried:

I'm not sure what to do next Dave, I have two ideas, a mine layout, and a harbour layout. The mine will be very simple, but probably HOe ....... is that counted as N gauge  :hmmm: :confused2: :hmmm:

The harbour, is going to be quite complex if I get everything I want in, but then I was surprised I got everything I wanted into Windmill Hill  :D

Anyway, I have a bit of planning to do for whatever is next, and a huge thanks to all my friends here who have followed my progress, and given such help along the way  :D

 :NGaugersRule:

All best wishes

Kevin

 :NGF:

Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 18, 2019, 04:05:51 PM
thats one stunning layout kevin. hope whatever next is
going to be built on the knowledge and skills gained from this one. cheers and hint : swanage shots did you capture any please ? chris
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: Phoenix on September 18, 2019, 04:19:26 PM
Hi Chris,

Hope all is well with you, and thank you for all the info re steamers in Weymouth.

So glad you like Windmill Hill, and yes, I learnt a load of things on the way.... "everyday has been a school day  :D"

As far as Swanage goes, we had a fabulous day, only spoilt by delays of over an hour on trains from Wareham back to Weymouth  >:(

Unfortunately I dropped my camera while there, and it has been playing up ever since ..... however I have got some photos and videos, which I promise I will sort over the next few days ..... Honest  ;) :D ;)

All best wishes

Kevin

 :beers:
Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: weave on September 18, 2019, 07:28:04 PM
Hi Kevin,

Great stuff but what's all this nonsense about a mine. I thought it was harbour all the way with a pub along the Weymouth tramway with us having a few ciders outside watching the train go by  :)  ;).

Looking forward to whatever you do.

Cheers weave  :beers:



Title: Re: Windmill Hill. A busy little layout in a compact little case.
Post by: AlexanderJesse on September 18, 2019, 07:51:30 PM
Thanks for all your kind comments, and I do believe Windmill Hill is finally completed.  :claphappy
Yours is truly a superb example of a micro-layout that looks bigger than lifetime. A true inspiration for us all.
 :NGaugersRule:

I'm not sure what to do next Dave, I have two idea