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Title: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on February 19, 2011, 12:53:11 PM

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Totem-Frankland-02.jpg)


Hello all,

well I've joined the N Gauge Forum and thought by way of introduction I'd give you a quick run-through of my layout, Frankland.



As the topic title says, this is a layout set in the south London suburbs during the 1920s/30s.


Here's the original plan which has not changed much since I began three years ago

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/2008%2009/Frankland-book3.jpg)


This is the start of the layout

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/2009%2003%2008%20-%20Hill/Overview-01.jpg)


Tracks at the front of the layout are now ballasted

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/2009%2007%2011%20-%20Scenics/Points-05.jpg)


Here's the signaling plan - although it may be a few years until I get round to doing it

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Signals/FranklandSignals02.jpg)


I made a 3-SUB from old Graham Farish carriages and used the motor from a DMU

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-SUB-set-06.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-SUB-set-01.jpg)


Slowly the scenic side of things are coming together

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Jaguars-SS100.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Cutting-01-1.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/EMU-Montage-NRM.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Overview-01.jpg)


I've recently started work on a small parade of shops

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-Roof-06.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-Roof-04.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-Roof-05.jpg)

I'll update with the finished result.

I'm glad to be on the N gauge forum and am looking forward to checking through other posts.



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Logo.jpg)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Lawrence on February 19, 2011, 01:10:18 PM
Firstly, welcome aboard

Secondly, WOW! that is some fantastic work  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Dlfishwick12 on February 19, 2011, 01:12:56 PM
looks tops already mate keep adding the pic!!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Tank on February 19, 2011, 01:23:35 PM
Welcome SouthernBoy!  :thumbsup:

This really is a superb layout from all aspects.  The plans you've made are fantastic, and I like the idea of it in a book.  The 3SUB is amazing, well done! Did you use a motor bogie, or a chassis from something else?  And the pipes and wires on the walls is something I'm very familiar with here on the Caterham Line.

 :NGAUGE:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Dock Shunter on February 19, 2011, 01:52:35 PM
Welcome to the forum..Southern Boy
Excellent layout with nice attention to detail.Looking forward to seeing it develop here... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Chris on February 19, 2011, 02:17:17 PM
Great to have you with us. As a follower of this layout elsewhere I've always been in awe of your attention to detail and have taken plenty of inspiration from this.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: jonclox on February 19, 2011, 02:19:39 PM
Wow!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on February 19, 2011, 06:00:59 PM
Thanks for the welcome folks  :)

" ...The 3SUB is amazing, well done! Did you use a motor bogie, or a chassis from something else?  ... "

I used the chassis/motor/bogies from a Farish 108 DMU. But next time I may buy a separate motor from Motorbogies.com (http://motorbogies.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_13&products_id=83).
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Tank on February 19, 2011, 07:24:49 PM
Very impressive.  I made a 4CIG about 5 years ago and I used a GF motor bogie that I had.  Awful thing!  Ruined the train to be honest.  And to think, people were buying them a few years ago for £60.   :o  I sold two for about £75 each once.  Madness.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: tadpole on February 19, 2011, 10:33:37 PM
great layout - love the 3SUB :-*
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Wingnut on February 20, 2011, 01:31:30 PM
Hi Southernboy,

Beautiful concept and fantastic scenic work, any chance of a close up of the gasometer next time you have your camera out?

Regards David
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: REFaust on February 20, 2011, 02:53:38 PM
Just wanted to echo some of the thoughts already posted. Absolutely excellent work so far, can't wait to see more progress.

Thanks for the welcome folks  :)

" ...The 3SUB is amazing, well done! Did you use a motor bogie, or a chassis from something else?  ... "

I used the chassis/motor/bogies from a Farish 108 DMU. But next time I may buy a separate motor from Motorbogies.com ([url]http://motorbogies.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_13&products_id=83[/url]).


Was that an original Grafar one or the more recent BachFar version?

R E Faust
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: jamest on February 20, 2011, 03:10:35 PM
Hi,

I'd like to echo the comments from others - really lovely layout developing here.

Personally I love the building work - they look fantastic - hard to believe they are N gauge. You obviously research and study real life meticulously and it comes through in everything I see on here.

Thanks for sharing it.

Cheers,
James
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: tadpole on February 20, 2011, 07:50:14 PM
This layout is so good I almost didn't notice the absense of juice rail - I assume this is somewhere on your to do list?
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on March 05, 2011, 09:33:02 AM
Sorry, I didn't have notification turned on and missed the last few responses ...

For Wingnut, here's the gasometer:

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Gasometer-04.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Gasometer-01.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Gasometer-03.jpg)

It's a Walther's plastic kit.

REFaust:
The coaches are the original Grafar ones.

jamest:
Thanks - I do put a lot of time and thought into the modelling  :)

tadpole:
Third rail will come much later. My plan is to get the broad building blocks in place first, and then go back and start adding details. The reason is that this way details are less likely to get damaged or worn whilst I'm still doing the 'rougher' stuff.


Thanks again all  :)   
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Lawrence on March 05, 2011, 11:24:58 AM
Fantastic weathering, you sure that's not O scale  ;)

 :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: cupoftea on March 05, 2011, 11:40:38 AM
That is amazing work - very hard to tell it is a model.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on April 10, 2011, 06:13:14 PM
Frankland update No. 1

Hello everyone and welcome to another in our series of occasional broadcasts from Frankland ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Alastair-Cooke-02.jpg)


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The South Western Circle:

I recently joined the South Western Circle, chiefly to find out which LSWR stock would still be running in earlier Southern Railway days.

From my Membership two good things immediately presented themselves. The first was the following booklet which turned up completely out-of-the-blue.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/For%20other%20people/Book-LSWR-Electrification.jpg)

To say I was excited is an understatement. This book was a fascinating read for me and has greatly enhanced my learning about the LSWR EMU programme. 

The second pleasant surprise was I could order books which I thought were no longer available.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Source%20material/Books.jpg)

In the booklet  'Waterloo Station circa 1900'  I was delighted to find an original plan of the station from 1848. Waterloo was originally designed as a through station en-route to a terminus nearer London Bridge / The City  -  and I hope to include a semblance of this history in a future layout.

I've redrawn that plan of Waterloo here in simplified form (copyright reasons) - showing passenger lines, but omitting goods and engine facilities.
I really like the top bay and in particular the loop (?) platform - I can see that working with EMUs / off-peak short workings / as layover platforms. Either way I think it's quite an interesting arrangement and one I'd quite like to model one day. Any comments on this plan?

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Source%20material/Waterloo-original-trackplan.jpg)


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Parade of Shops:

Since my first post here I've continued work on the parade of shops.

These were based on a couple of pictures in the London Transport photographic archive:
Section of a parade of shops, in Station Road, Edgware 1 (http://www.ltmcollection.org/photos/photo/photo.html?_IXSR_=wdFa2PGNJCc&_IXMAXHITS_=1&IXinv=2009/205&IXsummary=themes/theme_top&IXtoptheme=Suburbia&_IXFIRST_=190)
One of the aspects which drew me to this particular building was the little bow window to the shop on the left, which you can see in the linked picture above.
Section of a parade of shops, in Station Road, Edgware 2 (http://www.ltmcollection.org/photos/photo/photo.html?_IXSR_=wdFa2PGNJCc&_IXMAXHITS_=1&IXinv=2009/207&IXsummary=themes/theme_top&IXtoptheme=Suburbia&_IXFIRST_=191)
I didn't set out to reproduce the building precisely - but to use it as a guideline to style, detail and proportion.
         
Anyway - here's the remainder of the work from where we left off before ...

The next step was to look for original shop signs, period packaging, advertising and window displays that I could use on the building.
The picture below shows an example of some of my web-finds.
 
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-Signs-NRM.jpg)


My plan was to print them out on the office printer, but on close inspection found that reproduction wasn't that hot.
In the picture below the top image is the original, the lower image is how it printed out.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Shop-sign-print-comparison-01.jpg)


I thought of reproducing them in a page layout / design package, but found that in small scale close-up you can still see the 'dots' of the print-head.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Shop-sign-print-comparison-02.jpg)


So using Photoshop and InDesign I made an 8" x 6"  sheet of everything I would need

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-adverts-8x6.jpg)


And printed it out at a shop that has a photographic print machine. The quality was much better. I made four sheets, each with variations in tone and saturation to see how they turned out. At 75p each it was an inexpensive experiment. 

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-adverts.jpg)


Next I moved on to the more detailed sections of the building. I thought it would be easier to make the various minor sections as separate pieces, paint them up, and then fit them onto the main structure at the end - rather than make the whole thing and then try and paint those awkward-to-reach / very small parts and in the process damage something I'd already done.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-componants-01.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-componants-02a.jpg)


This is the first time I've used etched window frames. They're remarkably fine and crisp - although multiplying the cost of retail etchings by the number of windows I'll need across all the buildings I plan for Frankland gets a bit frightening. For future projects I was thinking about using a Rotring pen on acetate to draw my own window frames, does anyone have any views / experience on this? 

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Shops-window-fret.jpg)


I also made the shop windows / displays as separate 'slot-in' sections, again, because I thought this would be easier than trying to fix all these fiddly bits into a larger ongoing whole... 

Also in this picture are the lamps that sit atop the building, simply because I was painting them at the same time.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Shop-Windows-01.jpg)

So here are the shop windows before and after assembly. In each window I've used a floor-to-ceiling background image and a lower foreground image to try and create some depth to the displays. These window frames are strips of very fine microstrip glued with Humbrol Clearfix.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Shop-Windows-03.jpg)

So that's the construction of my first 'proper' building 100% from scratch and I'm very pleased. Of course there are a number of things I can see which could have been better, but it's all part of life's learning curve :-) 



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Well today (Sunday 10 April) the sun is shining and the skies are clear and blue:

Ladies and gentlemen we welcome you to ...

Parade of Shops: The Grand Opening


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-100-1.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-101-1.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-103-1.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-104-1.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-106.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-105.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-116.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-115.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-109.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-108.jpg)


Here's the back of the shops. You won't see the ground floor because the building is positioned so close to the viaduct.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-112.jpg)


I may go back at some point and add drain pipes for bathrooms/kitchens etc. The ground floor windows and door have frosted glass. I figured the rooms at the back could well be 'cold' rooms or large larders (which is why they also have the ventilators in the windows)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-111.jpg)


This is the back of the advertising hoarding, all properly boarded with planks at the back. The chimneys are made from cocktail sticks.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Parade-of-Shops-113.jpg)


Weathering powders over the whole structure would enhance texture, but that's something for another time. But all-in-all this is a brand spanking shiny and new parade of shops, just opened today - so there will be no 'weathering' as such.   

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Travels around London:


On a recent stroll to Tooting I photographed these wonderful gas lamps - and thought I'd share.
 

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Source%20material/Tooting-Gas-Lights-02.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Source%20material/Tooting-Gas-Lights-01.jpg)


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Other news:


This  picture is the proposed Oxford Diecast RD001 King George V Royal Daimler (Sandringham).
I may have to get one when they are released. They're expensive at around £24.00, but I very rarely indulge myself ...


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Oxford-RD001.jpg)


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More EMUs coming to Frankland:


When I made my 3-SUB from Farish generic stock someone commented that the compartments were too far apart.
Also, in my mind, the whole thing looked a bit chunky. 

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-SUB-set-05.jpg)

I wasn't worried in the context of it being my first go at anything like this ... but at the same time both thoughts stuck in my mind as something to deal with next time around, although I wasn't sure how ...

... until a few weeks ago browsing the pages for 00 kits on the Worsley Works site I chanced across the following notice:

"We can produce any of the Southern Electric Multiple Units shown in the Brian Golding Book."

I  contacted Mr Doherty who confirmed he would also produce any EMU in N gauge - so I ordered etches for three 3-SUBs - and here they are :)



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-SUB-etches-01.jpg)

For anyone interested, these are: DMBT, 49' TC, DMBC, which are on pages 34, 37 and 35 of the book respectively.

Here's the driving car.
Notice lower right the cab front. Below the window are what look like grills. It took me a while to realise these are actually to allow the lower half of the cab front to curve in to match the tumblehome on the carriage sides. It's going to be interesting getting that perfectly formed - but neat thinking too!

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-SUB-motor-car.jpg)

And here's the trailer.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-SUb-trailer-car.jpg)

The panelling is just perfect. The one thing I notice is that door frames are not represented. What tool would people suggest is best to use should I choose to represent door frames?   

Anyway, the bigger picture is that the availability of EMU etchings has overcome the main stumbling block Frankland had always faced - how to get/make stock. I am so happy!

I'll probably motorise two sets and have one unmotorised so I can run a six-car set.


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And finally:

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Henry-Hall-Radio-Times-02.jpg)

There's nothing the people of Frankland like better than to tune-in their wireless at 5.15 to hear Henry Hall and the BBC Dance Orchestra. So whilst this news broadcast now concludes, listeners can continue to soak up some entertainment Frankland-style. Please turn up the volume on your radio as we say:

Goodbye everyone, and 'Here's to the Next Time' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoTE6LbR-bw&feature=related).
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Lawrence on April 10, 2011, 06:30:12 PM
Cracking work there fella, I have resorted to that method for my signs too on occasion, actually find my Canon Pixma does quite a good job on the glossy photo paper, I also picked up a pack of 6x4 photo paper, reduced in Tesco for pennies, that allows me to do smaller batches.

Love the view down the hill with the tram, just know this is going to be a cracker
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: cupoftea on April 10, 2011, 06:41:18 PM
Amazing work. I just wish I had the skill...........
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Mustermark on April 10, 2011, 06:46:17 PM
That's a superb bit of building.  Fantastic detail, and especially in N. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Tank on April 10, 2011, 06:49:38 PM
Superb building. :thumbsup:  I loved your 3SUB when I first saw it, but for you to get hold of a brass kit to build one is incredible.  I'll be in touch...as this is something I'd like for a future layout. :)

Keep up the good work.

 :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on April 10, 2011, 07:27:48 PM
Thanks for kind comments chaps  :)

cupoftea:

'Practice makes Perfect' as they say  :) A couple of years ago I wouldn't have even thought of making my own stuff, but through reading up on forums such as this I've learned a lot. Its not always as straightforward as my posts may imply - for instance, I had three attempts at making the shop windows before I got it right - but it does come right eventually, and when it does it's such a satisfying reward in itself.

Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Claude Dreyfus on April 10, 2011, 10:59:23 PM
Rather impressive! I hope you are feeling smug about that parade of shops; you should do, as they are a truely exceptional piece of modelling.

Something else is becoming apparent....the sense of openess, with wide verges and roads looking just as they do in old pictures when the suburbs were new, bright and shiney. It is very difficult to describe, other than to say it just looks right.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on April 10, 2011, 11:23:55 PM
Thankyou Claude Dreyfus,

your comment about the 'sense of openess' is particularly rewarding as it's something which from the outset I have tried to achieve.

Right from the planning stage of Frankland I spent many hours studying old pictures in order to get the right look and feel, so the fact that someone has picked up on that aspect makes it all the more worthwhile  :)



Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on April 17, 2011, 01:38:33 PM
Two videos for you

Hope you like them :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A9i6GjA3yE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A9i6GjA3yE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21eT_YHD_cs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21eT_YHD_cs)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Vulcan on April 17, 2011, 03:04:49 PM
Superb work! I am very impressed. Everything is so neat and tidy, and I really like the building with the shops in it. Really excellent stuff.

When it gets somewhere near complete, you should definately send some pics and a description to Railway Modeller for an article.

Keep up the good work, I look forward to seeing more!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on April 17, 2011, 06:49:04 PM
Thanks  :)

Most of Frankland will be neat and tidy because it's set in an area of recently completed developments, although to the right of the viaduct there will be an alleyway with the backs of a few slums along it.

Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Vulcan on April 17, 2011, 06:56:17 PM
What have you used for the grass on the embankment? looks more effective then scatter.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on April 17, 2011, 07:04:29 PM
The grass is 'Anita Decor' 2mm static grass.

http://www.internationalmodels.net/acatalog/Grass_Fibres.html (http://www.internationalmodels.net/acatalog/Grass_Fibres.html) (towards the bottom of the page).

I mixed them in different proportions to give a bit of variation.

At a later point I'll revisit that area to add fences, bushes, and probably a couple of trees.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: zwilnik on April 17, 2011, 07:30:56 PM
There's some discussion in this thread http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=308.0 of various home made static grass applicators, including the "Teafibrilator" my brother and I built :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on May 22, 2011, 07:12:04 PM
Frankland update No. 2


Hello everyone and welcome to another in our series of occasional broadcasts from Frankland ...



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Radio-announcer-dinner-suit.jpg)



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I've had a space in the public gardens at the bottom of  Frankland Hill earmarked for a bus or tram shelter - and decided to make this my next project. I wanted something quite rustic and browsed the London Transport Photographic Archives for inspiration, eventually deciding on the tram shelter at South End Green, Hampstead, photographed in 1933.

Image 01 (http://www.ltmcollection.org/photos/photo/photo.html?_IXMAXHITS_=1&_IXSR_=nY0GWPUSAlj&IXsummary=results/results&IXsearch=tram%20shelter%20&_IXFIRST_=7), Image 02 (http://www.ltmcollection.org/photos/photo/photo.html?_IXSR_=sXDfPGv7_WR&_IXMAXHITS_=1&IXinv=1998/56081&IXsummary=results/results&IXsearch=tram%20shelter%20at%20South&_IXFIRST_=1).

I also quite liked the story behind it: The shelter had been donated by a member of the public in 1893 who took pity on the drivers of the trams which then had open platforms. The drivers were soaked and frozen in the winter and this was a place to warm up.

Frankland also needed a public convenience, and one had been built next to the Hampstead tram shelter in 1897 by the LNWR. However, I decided to have this wrapped around the tram shelter for reasons of space and also I thought it was more aesthetically pleasing :-)

For the Conveniences I found pictures on Flikr.

So that's the preamble - now on with the show!

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As usual I drew up a plan roughly to scale and got the Plasticard out.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-plans-02.jpg)

First sections of the shelter below. One characteristic of the shelter are it's leaded-light windows. To create the leading I laid some clear plastic at 45ļ over a sheet of graph paper and scored it with the back of a knife. Then I painted a mix of grey and gunmetal over the surface, and after a few seconds wiped it off leaving the paint in the grooves.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-parts-03.jpg)


By the way - I always have a 'project box' to keep parts in - otherwise it's so easy to lose things, especially small parts. Does anyone else do this?

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-Parts-Box.jpg)

Basic shell assembled.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-07.jpg)


Next I needed to get an idea of the degree of the incline on the hill in order to adapt the buildings to suit.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-09-Incline-Setting.jpg)


And dug out a big hole.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Conveniences-01.jpg)


I then made a base on which everything would sit, and created some angled steps so the shelter would be level.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-steps-01.jpg)


Next the inside stair assemblies. The steps were from a Ratio 'Southern Railway Concrete Footbridge' which is now surplus to requirements. Here are the inside walls fixed into place.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Conveniences-stairs-02.jpg)


Then the outer walls were made and lightly curved ready for fixing.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Conveniences-stairs-03.jpg)


Some extra bracing was required at the bottom to stop the curved sections from springing out.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Conveniences-stairs-04.jpg)


Various timetables, route-maps and adverts printed out ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-Signs-8x6.jpg)


... and added to the shelter, now with interior walls.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-skew.jpg)


Further progress.
On the right you see the staircase walls with holes drilled ready for the railings. I was very nervous about drilling the holes as just the smallest error could see the drill coming through the side of the walls. The holes look huge, but in fact are only 0.5mm.
To the left of the stairs is the obligatory drain, and to the left of that something I am particularly chuffed with, ground-level skylights for the toilets. These are made from two window-frames surplus from a Walthers kit. I used Humbrol Clearfix to glaze them, then underneath stuck a strip of Ultima 'Opaque Glazing'. 

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Conveniences-07.jpg)


Next a picture with the first length of railings in place.
Most of the area around the walls will eventually be planted with bushes and shrubs, only the front strip will remain paved.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Conveniences-11.jpg)


Over the entrance to the stairs are two lamps. For the lamps I used a couple of sections of cocktail stick, rounded off with sandpaper, painted off-white and then satin-varnished. The tops of the lamps are two bits from a sprue that happened to look about right for the job.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Conveniences-08.jpg)



I drilled a small hole through the top of the lamps and threaded through some fine Microstrip.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Conveniences-09.jpg)



Here you see one side of the lamp support stuck to railings.
 
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Conveniences-10.jpg)

Later the other side was bent around-and-down to the other side of the railings.


And that was the exercise completed, apart from a light dusting of weathering powders to tone everything down.


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So - Penny at the Ready?


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/George_V_penny_solo.jpg)


We bring you Frankland Tram Shelter and Public Conveniences


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(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-201.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-209.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-202.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-214.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-205.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-210.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-203.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-207.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-Shelter-107.jpg)

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Well ladies and gentleman, boys and girls, that concludes another broadcast from Frankland.
Being Sunday evening transmission ends early, so for further entertainment why not get down to the Picturehouse?
There's a most entertaining Paul Whiteman Revue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w1P1VK9jGs) you really shouldn't miss! :)



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Paul-Whiteman.jpg)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Tank on May 22, 2011, 07:25:53 PM
Another cracking update.  The toilets are great!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: jonclox on May 22, 2011, 08:20:59 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: fantastic :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Alex on May 22, 2011, 08:38:10 PM
Well done. What a cracking little project.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on May 22, 2011, 09:35:17 PM
Thanks  :)  :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: longbridge on May 22, 2011, 09:56:34 PM
Lovely modelling, really enjoyed the picture sequence of the new structure.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Mustermark on May 26, 2011, 02:18:47 AM
Super modelling.  Keep the updates coming.  It keeps me going thinking I will one day get to do scenic stuff. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Lawrence on May 26, 2011, 08:32:23 AM
Just keeps getting better and better  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: grumbeast on May 26, 2011, 04:36:30 PM
I think this is going to go down as one of those classic layouts that inspire people again and again, truly great work there!

Graham
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on May 26, 2011, 10:58:30 PM
Thanks for your comments oldrailbug, Mustermark, Lawrence and grumbeast, really much appreciated :-)


 
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on September 11, 2011, 01:03:07 PM
Frankland update No. 3


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Hello everyone and welcome to another in our series of occasional broadcasts from Frankland ...


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Firstly we follow on from the previous programme featuring the old Tram Shelter on Frankland Hill.
A thread about Photoshop on NRM prompted the following:

(with apologies to those who have already seen this).

I love things like old faded postcards, like you see in the windows of sea-side shops where they've been in the sun for far too long, or pictures you discover in a box in some dusty corner of a junk shop ... each holds a personal history and long-forgotten memories about which you can only guess.

Equally I like early colour photographs and film, whether hand-tinted or over-saturated colour or similar: The common denominator is simply the colours are 'out' or not quite 'real' for one reason or another.

So anyway, here's an old postcard and a frame from an early colour film, both depicting the old Frankland Tram Shelter in the 1930s.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Tram-Shelter-1930s.jpg)



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The house is a machine for living:
Le Corbusier, 1923


The architects of Frankland embrace such modern thinking and were much inspired by http://www.hartingtoncourt.com/news.html (http://www.hartingtoncourt.com/news.html).


Designs were drawn up and construction commenced on a block of modern flats...


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Hartington-Court-Plans.jpg)


First the base for the building.    

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-02.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-03.jpg)



It's on a hill so the first step was to build a level 'foundation' for it to sit on.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-10.jpg)


Then the main 'tower' of the building was made...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-11.jpg)


Followed by the two 'large' and 'small' blocks that sit each side of the tower.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-14.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-15.jpg)


I cut slots in the base ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-16.jpg)


... and lugs(?) in the bottom of the units so that hopefully everything would sit neatly together and add some strength to the assembly.
 
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-17.jpg)

This is the first 'large' building seen in Frankland, and as such was an opportunity to experiment with methods of construction.
For the left-hand side 'slots and lugs' were cut so the smaller section 'plugged into' the larger section... plus  some basic bracing. I thought this method would be handy as it allowed the two sections to be separated for painting and detailing as I went along.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-18.jpg)


For the right-hand side a I used the traditional method of an inner layer of Plasticard to add strength, without cutting any slots/lugs, giving me two solid units.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-22.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-27.jpg)


Overall I prefered the latter method. I found no real advantage to having separate units (the first method), and it felt less robust.

So anyway, next the  blocks were glued in place.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-29.jpg)


Meanwhile, I started building up the landscape around the flats using foam-board topped with plaster.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-30.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-31.jpg)


Here are the roof sections. Despite close scrutiny of the original building using various satellite views, I could find no evidence of obvious roof features, so modeled them flat and plain. To get the effect of roofing-felt I used a mini-roller, which leaves a slightly 'stippled' surface. This was repeated three times, each with a slightly different mix of paint to give some colour variation.    

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-35.jpg)

I was very pleased with the fine texture this gave me.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-36.jpg)

At this point I also added window sills and the bands of concrete that run around the building.



The balconies ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-33.jpg)

... and the path up to the tradesman's entrance at the rear of the flats ...
 
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-34.jpg)

... and here are the steps up to the front entrance.  The scene is starting to come together now  :)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-40.jpg)

So next onto some details:

Firstly hedges: Some kitchen sponge cut to size and painted dark green.  

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Hedge-01.jpg)

The 'leaves' are ground olive stones (from the 4D Model Shop).

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Hedges-02.jpg)



Some while ago a fellow modeller commented that whilst many of us make great effort to get the integrity of our track right, take pains to have reasonable looking foliage, and make a point of ensuring the flashing around the base of chimney breasts is evident  -  few people pay attention to representing with reasonable accuracy telecommunications. So henceforth I am putting that right by ensuring the GPO telephone system is proudly represented in the street furniture of Frankland. So here we have a Telephone Junction Box.
:)  

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Telephone-junction-box-01.jpg)

Next detail: Pavements.

Initially I made the pavements up as one large 'drop-over' section as I thought this was a clever idea, but it wasn't.
Trying to 'drop' one, large, single assembly, around such a big area was just plain messy, with glue in places in shouldn't have been.
Quite frankly it was a mistake and an embarrassment  :shock:

So I started again making components ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Pavement-components.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Pavement--manhole.jpg)


Having re-made the pavement in sections, I glued them down, filled the gaps, filed them level and painted over the joins.
You may wonder why I pre-painted the sections, despite the fact I later rubbed/filed between them. The reason for this was that to try and later paint accurately around the manholes whilst leaning over the layout would have been impossible with anyone's eyesight. So I thought it better to 'block in' the main areas of paint from the outset, then touch-up the joins later.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Pavement-laid-and-filled.jpg)


Next, doors:
On the left are the front doors to the individual flats. These were pre-scribed on the back so I could snap them off as required. Top right are the two columns of doors which go each side of the tower, and lower right are the main front and rear entrance doors.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Flat-door-01.jpg)


Now then, the next detail started off as something I thought would be 'nice to have', but proved more difficult to make than I imagined, so evolved into a  'Have To Have' feature. It took me a couple of weeks of failed experiments to work out how to make something which in theory should really be quite straightforward  :shock:

So what do we do with the sleeve that contains cigarette filters, a length of plastic rod, and the ink tube of a ball point pen?

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Palms---constituent-parts.jpg)


Ornamental Palms...

I painted the sleeve green and cut across the width following the natural curve of the plastic. The Plastic rod was narrowed at the top, and 'nicked' with a scalpel lower down to give it the correct texture.  
  
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Palm-components.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Palms-01.jpg)

I have to say I was particularly chuffed with the final results :)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Palms-03.jpg)

Later, the top of the ball-pen ink tube was sliced into narrow sections to make flower pots - pictures further down the page  :)  


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The windows took ages - I reckon there's 124 of them.
Because there are so many I had to work out some sort of 'production-line' method, and came up with the following:

I made a jig with the window frames marked out, laid strips of clear plastic over the top and scribed the horizontals along the length of the strip. Then, starting at one end of the strip I scribed the verticals for one frame, moved the strip along and scribed another frame next to the first, and so on ...    

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Making-Windows-01.jpg)


Next I roughly painted the 'bars' of the windows,

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Making-Windows-02.jpg)


Then rubbed off the surplus paint.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Making-Windows-03.jpg)


The inner edges of the frames were relatively easy to keep straight - I kept the paint fairly dilute so that the scribed edges of the inner frames drew the paint in by capillary action, thus forming a natural line just where I wanted it.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Making-Windows-04.jpg)


So this gave me a strip of window frames ready to snap-off and use as required.
Btw - the pictures show my first attempt and the scoring is less than consistent, but I got better with practice :-)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Making-Windows-05.jpg)


Finally, I needed some mottled glass for the windows of the main central tower. To create this I used clear plastic sheet, painted it with a slightly dilute PVA, then as it started to become tacky, stippled it with a tooth brush. I did this twice to get the right degree of opaqueness.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Mottled-Glass.jpg)




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The servant problem solved!

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Servant-Problem-Solved-4.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Flats-100.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Flats-104.jpg)


Well it's another fine Spring morning here in Frankland and everyone is out in their Sunday best to witness the opening of this prestigious new building.


Let's take a tour  :)

Here we are looking down the hill ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Flats-206.jpg)


The flats are all-electric, and each has it's own telephone - so on the corner we have the Telephone Junction Box.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-57-Telephone-Junction-box.jpg)


And here's the grand entrance, with it's ornamental potted palms ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Flats-215.jpg)


An aerial view ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Flats-218.jpg)


Just over the road is the tram stop ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Flats-214.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Flats-208.jpg)



Here we see the little path that leads around to the tradesman's entrance at the rear of the flats.
To the right will be some Victorian shops, with their goods and wares piled high on the pavement.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-59.jpg)


Where the trees shade the lawn the grass has become a little scrubby and bare.  

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Block-of-Flats-50.jpg)

Ultimately I'd like to see a few saplings sprouting from around the tree trunks, but that's a project for another day.



And here's the back of the flats. It looks a little too clean at present because until I've put in the viaduct walls (to the right), I shan't do any weathering here.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Flats-202.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Flats-201.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Flats-205.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Flats-204.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Flats-203.jpg)



And that's that little project put to bed.


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I thought it would be fun to stitch together a few photos giving a view of Frankland Hill as seen from the train window...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Train-Window.jpg)

The distance from left to right is around 40" - for some reason it looks quite compressed here.  

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And finally we have a couple of little gems that recently arrived in the post.


I've been eying the Scale Link website for some while, and could no longer resist a couple of sample purchases in order to find out what their products are like.
So recently I received a 1925 Morris Cowley Saloon...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Scale-Link-SLC109-1925-Morris-Cowley-Saloon.jpg)


... and some 'Ornate Shop Pilasters'. I love the fine detail and they'll save me a lot of work when I come to the Victorian shops at the bottom of the hill.  


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Scale-Link-SLC93-Ornate-Shop-Pilasters.jpg)


So that's a couple of things for the 'Future Projects' Box :)

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And that concludes today's broadcast.

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But that doesn't mean an end to our entertainment ...  there's a little compilation of films on at the Picturehouse which you may find amusing.
With the number of cars on the road fast approaching one million, no Highway Code, and the advent of proper pedestrian crossings some 35 years in the future, pedestrians take their life in their hands each time they venture to cross the road. So here's a little dance from Jack Hylton to help you all to remember to 'look left and right' before stepping off the kerb.

Ladies and gentlemen, we give you Doing The Kerb Step (http://youtu.be/QP5Ne9ZcIwI) (watch out for the 'stomp')  :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Alex on September 11, 2011, 01:39:18 PM
 :o absoloutley stunning. Well done on such a detailed scratchbuild.

Alex
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Dock Shunter on September 11, 2011, 02:00:51 PM
:o absoloutley stunning. Well done on such a detailed scratchbuild.

Alex

 
           It's not bad.....i mean come on it's only a block of flats...... ;D
           Seriously.....again some superb modelling and a great presentation.... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on September 11, 2011, 03:56:34 PM
Thanks chaps  :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: grastairs on September 11, 2011, 04:23:33 PM
Am absolutely loving this thread!

You are obviously a very skilled modeller Southernboy. Each new building shows your many talents so so well.

And here I am trying to pluck-up the courage to start my first ever Metcalfe kit  :-\

Hartington Court made me think of a place I once flat-shared in ... I wonder if it might be of interest to you?
http://ealingvillage.com/About/History.aspx (http://ealingvillage.com/About/History.aspx)

Looking forward to the next picture show.

Gra
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: galway on September 11, 2011, 04:27:33 PM
All I can say is 'WOW', can you do mine next?

Well I can also say fantastic, superb, best I've seen, etc etc

Regards
Paul
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on September 11, 2011, 04:58:51 PM
I too am gobsmacked. Incredible eye for detail and a great knack for modelling. I loved The Kerb Step - just like my local town only without the dancing :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on September 11, 2011, 05:14:13 PM
Thanks again for your kind comments gents  :)

grastairs:
Thanks for the link to Ealing Village, that was one of the places I looked at when researching possible original buildings to model. It's certainly a distinctive block of flats - hadn't realised they were originally designed for film stars.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: grastairs on September 11, 2011, 05:33:13 PM
Ah, so you had already beaten me to it!

Yes, the film star aspect was something I was always careful to talk-up, back in the 80s when I shared a cockroach infested flat there. The place was in a bit of a sorry state then, but seems it's being much better looked-after these days. If I recall correctly, there are 6 or 7 identical blocks.

Is there any chance of you doing something along the lines of the Hoover Factory (now a Tesco) in Perivale? Or the sadly demolished A40 Firestone Bldng?

Gra
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on September 11, 2011, 05:53:41 PM
I do like those semi-industrial and similar buildings, but don't plan any for Frankland - what I will have is a version of Clapham South Tube:
http://www.ltmcollection.org/photos/photo/photo.html?_IXMAXHITS_=1&_IXSR_=2F9dfV4Kt1u&IXsummary=results/results&IXsearch=clapham%20south&_IXFIRST_=19&IXenlarge=9855725

and another tube station, possibly based on Wimbledon Broadway, plus stations inspired by Wimbledon (main line) station:
http://allaboutuk.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/gov05_09rail020ah280.jpg

and Surbiton:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sludgeulper/3121403885/in/pool-381159@N22/

Much of the rest of the layout will be Victorian, just to keep a balance.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: grastairs on September 11, 2011, 06:04:01 PM
Those are some fine buildings.

Looking forward to seeing your progress.

Gra
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Mustermark on September 11, 2011, 07:22:54 PM
That is a fantastic scratch build.  I love the photos too, very atmospheric.  I would definitely want to rent a flat there.

Can you make me one? :smiley-laughing:

Great thread... Keep posting! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: MinZaPint on September 18, 2011, 07:24:12 PM
I used to live in Cheam in the 50s & 60s on the line from Effingham to London Bridge or Victoria. Our garden backed onto the station wall and from the kitchen window I could look down the track and see the trains coming from Epsom & Ewell. Manys the time I've had to whack my breakfast between 2 slices and run like the clappers to catch my train to work! Your marvellous layout has brought that all back to me. Many thanks and happy modeling
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on September 18, 2011, 09:11:23 PM
Thanks for further comments gents, all feedback appreciated :)

MinZaPint:
What a pity you didn't keep a camera handy.
I expect at the time it was all very hum-drum and everyday ... but today some of us would be fascinated to see pictures of what you saw running past the end of your garden. It's not that pictures don't exist - just there's never enough of them.

Well this weekend I started researching my next project for Frankland, and it's going to be a major piece of infrastructure :)   
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Gooders on September 19, 2011, 12:54:01 PM
I can't really add anything to what's already been said, but watching this build is my favourite thread. Wonderful detail and such terrific atmosphere - I keep expecting to see Poirot, Captain Hastings and Inspector Japp in those photos! Please keep the updates coming.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on September 19, 2011, 01:09:07 PM
Speaking personally I can't wait for the next 'major infrastructure'.
Ace modelling :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Avis1434 on September 19, 2011, 03:56:22 PM
Me too!!!

Just caught up on this thread and am in awe of Southernboy's modelling abilities.
As Grastairs said - I too am currently buying metcalfe kits to construct in the near future
with some trepidation!!!

Well he has certainly lifted the bar for us all and only a very few will be able to achieve anything like this level of detail/accuracy!

Please continue to show us the way forward S B in this most interesting thread. Can't wait to see your next major infrastructure venture
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: BRCW26010 on September 19, 2011, 05:30:32 PM
Spiffing, what? Absolutely superb. Just brilliant. Love the modelling, the thread and the feel. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on September 19, 2011, 09:31:48 PM
Thanks again for your kind comments gents.

Well my inspiration and everything I've learned comes from forums like this - so keep up the good work every one!

 
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Sithlord75 on September 20, 2011, 12:59:25 AM
Just come to this -  :thumbsup: from me.  Very inspiring.  Love how you have shown us just how you put things together.  Will be refering back when I come to scratchbuilding my own buildings.  Thanks very much.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on September 20, 2011, 10:49:42 PM
Thankyou:

Coming from a 2mm modeller that's a great compliment.

Sometimes I wish Easitrack had been announced 6 months earlier as I may have taken a different path  :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Sithlord75 on September 22, 2011, 03:12:17 AM
Can't claim to be a 2mm modeller of any experience!  I have built some kits, put together some track but haven't managed to get points to work.

As it happens I'm planning on using Easitrac for my rebuild of my Southern Region BR Blue layout in 2012.  There is presently a discussion going on on the 2mm VAG email group about modelling 3rd rail convincingly.  I'll let you know how it pans out because it may make adding the third rail easier.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on September 23, 2011, 07:04:19 PM
Thanks, I do follow the 2mm email group, but find the format rather arcane and counter-intuitive - so tend to skip more than I should really. I'll have to make more of an effort!

And I'll look forward to 2012 then  :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: kirky on December 09, 2011, 04:55:48 PM
Wow.....

As I've just said on the Northallerton thread, I don't know how I missed this. I am soooo impressed with the detail of modelling on the layout, its just fantastic, in fact its 'New Streetesque' (but without being Pbore4)

I love the 'Odeon'/art deco like feel that you have created. I really like the architecture from this period, especially public buildings from the time. If our project can demonstarte just a smidgeon of your skills, I will be well pleased. Of course you couldn't really pick a more different period and region from Northallerton, but I still love it.

Many thanks, and time for an update maybe?
Kirky (A Northernboy)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on December 09, 2011, 07:39:57 PM
Thank you Kirky, glad you like my efforts :)  I wouldn't go so far as a comparison with New Street though - that's in a league of it's own, but a layout from which I derive inspiration.

Yes, I hope to post an update early in the new year.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: haeckmaen on December 21, 2011, 10:31:42 PM
I can't believe I missed your September update, actually I should have read this impressive tutorial before going over to my own attempts in what might maybe called scratchbuilding.

I have to admit I really do like year 20's expressionism architecture and although there is quite no serious link to your prototypes as examples of London architecture, I thought you might like this:

BACKSTEINBLUES I Gelsenkirchener Backsteinexpressionismus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cF1L9jmIZA#)

It's from my old hometown, which was once featuring leading examples of expressionism architecture in germany.
Apologies for going out of topic so far, and looking forward to all things to come.

Matthias

Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: kirky on December 22, 2011, 08:36:44 AM
Thanks for posting this matthias, I just love that expressionist architecture. I wonder sometimes if I might have something wrong with me, I have no reason for liking this, I'm not involved in architcture, I've never studied it, I have no family connections and I know very little, beyond recognising that I like it. But give me the Bauhaus anytime over earlier architectures.

Which town Matthias? I think I might like to add that to my list of places to visit.

Cheers
kirky
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on December 22, 2011, 08:55:08 AM
Thank you Matthias,  I much appreciate that.

The buildings are interesting and of a style I am not familiar with: Not so much the overall forms, but the use of decorative brickwork over whole buildings (rather than decorative brickwork in selected areas only). It's almost like the architect(s) were trying to retain a semblance of 'quaint rural arts and crafts' in their work ... or maybe large areas of flat white concrete just wasn't their thing (or hadn't been conceived at that point). Although I notice the final example does embrace a concrete finish. I'll have to investigate further ...

Either way they are definitely bold, striking and distinctive.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: haeckmaen on December 23, 2011, 12:21:24 AM
I'm glad this posting was of any use, however I could write lengthy essays about Gelsenkirchen (that's the city the pics origin) and its architecture so you may have to stop me at some point... :)

Gelsenkirchen is located in Ruhr area heartland and is heavily suffering from the total decline of the steel and mining industries in recent times, probably most similar to developments in Birmingham or Newcastle. That's why even the listed structures seen in the vid are generally in rather poor condition. The community now almost went buzz because in addition to problems that had occured due to structural changes, the council is - like other western communities - still forced by law to pay for upgrades of cities in former eastern GDR areas, no matter if western communities do have their own problems or not.

Ruhr area has become the home of quite a lot of expressionist structures which were generally a statement of political independency. In fact, expressionism was the architecture of social democratic councils, and in the 1920's, social democracy was exceptionally strong mainly in the Ruhr. The Nazis were aware of this and were generally strong opponents of expressionism architecture (e.g. closed down the Bauhaus school immediately) which almost totally ceased in the 1930's resulting in there are more of the early brick structures rather than the more modern concrete ones around here.

Which town Matthias? I think I might like to add that to my list of places to visit.


I'm not quite sure to recommend Gelsenkirchen as a worthy destination when travelling to germany, whilst it could well be combined with a visit of the world heritage site of Zollverein coal mine, also a 1920's structure but in the town of Essen, only a few miles away. http://www.zollverein.de/english/index.php?f_categoryId=691 (http://www.zollverein.de/english/index.php?f_categoryId=691)

However, the ultimate destination for those interested in expressionist architecture in germany will IMO be Hamburg with its legendary Chilehaus and Amerikahaus. Enjoy :)

http://www.google.de/search?q=chilehaus+hamburg&hl=de&client=firefox-a&hs=AxY&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=jMTzTpq3JMqVOpix2b4B&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CBkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=631 (http://www.google.de/search?q=chilehaus+hamburg&hl=de&client=firefox-a&hs=AxY&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=jMTzTpq3JMqVOpix2b4B&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CBkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=631)

Going back to UK structures, Battersea Power Station probably represents an equally impressive structure being an all time favourite of mine. Especially in the way it's captured on the Pink Floyd 'animals' album, it offers great modelling inspitation. http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/182/b/5/pink_floyd_animals_by_angelzero17-d3ko3pj.jpg (http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/182/b/5/pink_floyd_animals_by_angelzero17-d3ko3pj.jpg) Okay, this is getting a bit absurd now, really time to go back to Frankland.

Matthias

Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: kirky on December 23, 2011, 07:44:05 AM

Gelsenkirchen is located in Ruhr area heartland and is heavily suffering from the total decline of the steel and mining industries in recent times, probably most similar to developments in Birmingham or Newcastle. That's why even the listed structures seen in the vid are generally in rather poor condition. The community now almost went buzz because in addition to problems that had occured due to structural changes, the council is - like other western communities - still forced by law to pay for upgrades of cities in former eastern GDR areas, no matter if western communities do have their own problems or not.

Ruhr area has become the home of quite a lot of expressionist structures which were generally a statement of political independency. In fact, expressionism was the architecture of social democratic councils, and in the 1920's, social democracy was exceptionally strong mainly in the Ruhr. The Nazis were aware of this and were generally strong opponents of expressionism architecture (e.g. closed down the Bauhaus school immediately) which almost totally ceased in the 1930's resulting in there are more of the early brick structures rather than the more modern concrete ones around here.

I'm not quite sure to recommend Gelsenkirchen as a worthy destination when travelling to germany, whilst it could well be combined with a visit of the world heritage site of Zollverein coal mine, also a 1920's structure but in the town of Essen, only a few miles away. [url]http://www.zollverein.de/english/index.php?f_categoryId=691[/url] ([url]http://www.zollverein.de/english/index.php?f_categoryId=691[/url])

However, the ultimate destination for those interested in expressionist architecture in germany will IMO be Hamburg with its legendary Chilehaus and Amerikahaus. Enjoy :)

Matthias



Matthias, this is very very interesting.
I live in a steel town in NE England which has seen its fair share of economic decline. I think its important to know other people and places have suffered in the same we have.
I did actually know the Nazis had closed down the Bauhaus but I hadn't got their general opposition to expressionism and its links to social democracy. Perhaps that at least in part, explains why I like this architecture so much; I have in the past been involved in the Anti-Fascist movement. 
Incidently, Hamburg is already on my list, quite near the top actually and it includes a vist to Minaturewunderland.

OK, so we should return to Frankland, but this in essence is why Railway Modelling is such a great hobby. One minute I'm finding out about the intricacies of a Merg project, the next I'm discussing the historical value of Expressionist architecture. Brilliant.

Cheers
kirky

 
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on April 08, 2012, 09:11:07 PM
Hello everyone, for the following update I had to edit out all the ''How I Did This' information because unfortunately it exceeded the limits of the forum. If you're interested in that, please follow the link in my signature to my post on NRM.

Otherwise, here goes ... :)


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Please tune in to 2LO on 365 m (822 kHz)



"London Calling. This is London Calling"




Frankland update No. 4:



Welcome everyone to another fine Spring morning here in Frankland, where everyone is out in their Sunday best for a stroll around the famous viaducts.



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We start with a few views of Bridge No. 19

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-19-01.jpg)



It's a bit run-down around here so we won't hang around for too long ...


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-19-old-adverts.jpg)



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-adverts-07.jpg)



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-20-Gasometer-view.jpg)


This corner looks particularly dark and dank - I wouldn't want to walk through here at night!


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-19-11.jpg)


Mind you, if you climb half-way up the Gasometer there's a good view of Frankland Station.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-19-09.jpg)



And the view from the top is even better!


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/View-from-top-of-Gasometer-top.jpg)



Here's a view over the bridge



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-19-10.jpg)



And another looking along and around the viaduct towards bridge No. 20


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-19-drivers-view.jpg)



Bridge No. 20


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Drivers-eye-view-viaduct.jpg)



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On the far side of the bridge are the Automatic Fog Detonator placers. Here is one of them

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Automatic-Fog-Detonator-Placer-01.jpg)


And here you can see the cranks and rods that operate it.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Automatic-Fog-Detonator-Placer-02.jpg)


Ditto on the opposite track


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Automatic-Fog-Detonator-Placer-03.jpg)


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Cabling runs track-side the length of the viaduct: Some in ground-level concrete conduits, some along wall mounted brackets, but mostly in raised wooden conduits. Here you can see examples of all three.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-20-Trackside-cabling.jpg)



And here is the Bridge Number mounted on the parapet


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-20-number-plate.jpg)



You can get quite a good view up Frankland Hill from here


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/View-up-Frankland-Hill.jpg)



But let's continue around the viaduct toward Frankland Park

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Relay-cabinets-02-1.jpg)



In the distance is my Mona Lisa - the 'Craven A'  lady has such an enigmatic look

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Mona-Lisa-Craven-A-01.jpg)



Here are the relay cabinets by the junction just outside Frankland Park station


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Relay-cabinets-03.jpg)


There are three point machines and plenty of cables here - and it looks to me like the points have been recently oiled too


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Realy-cabinets-point-motors-and-cables.jpg)


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Well now we're going to scramble down the embankment behind the tram shelter


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Embankment-wall-enamel-adverts-01.jpg)


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If we turn around and look across the road we spy the alleyway that runs between the flats on the left and old shops on the right


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Back-of-flats-01.jpg)



We've never been down that way before so I  thought today maybe we should take a look


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Back-of-flats-02.jpg)



Here's office and print works of The Herald

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Back-of-flats-03.jpg)


I don't think the paper does particularly well, their last big story was that court case involving the Winslow Boy and the 5/- Postal Order, and that was in 1908


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Back-of-flats-04.jpg)


Originally  a small cobbled road ran along the front of the arches here up as far as the Rhododendron bush in the corner  - however, when they built the new access road to the flats the original path became redundant and is now getting overgrown. But if you look carefully, you can still see some cobbles from the original path in some places.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Back-of-flats-05.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Back-of-flats-07.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Back-of-flats-06.jpg)


If you're wondering why the viaduct here looks so clean and new, it's because the developers of the flats had them all cleaned up to make the area a little more presentable.


Anyway, here we are at the top of the road.   

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Back-of-flats-08.jpg)




If you climb to the roof of the shops you get some interesting angles down the back of the flats


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Back-of-flats-09.jpg)



Look at the far end of this view and you'll see the little cut-through back to the main road


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Back-of-flats-10.jpg)


It brings you out back by Bridge No 19


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Back-of-flats-11.jpg)


Like I said - you can still see the original cobbles in some places.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Back-of-flats-12.jpg)


So here we are back in the busy street. There seems to be a lot of traffic today!


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-19-06.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-19-07.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-19-08.jpg)



If you turn to your right here you'll see Bridge No. 20

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-20-01.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-20-02.jpg)



There's Mona Lisa again - enigmatic as ever!


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Mona-Lisa-Craven-A-02.jpg)


More traffic! 


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-20-04.jpg)



This old arch has been boarded up for years.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-20-03.jpg)



And here's the other side of Bridge No 20

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-20-10.jpg)


To our right is where we started this pleasant afternoon amble


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Bridge-No-20-05.jpg)


And here's a last look back before we go

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Overview-03.jpg)



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Finally, before this programme ends, do take a minute to watch this delightful short clip: A Ride Over Westminster Bridge (http://youtu.be/ui63-Zjbcvo)



And that is the end of this broadcast.

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Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Pengi on April 08, 2012, 09:19:49 PM
Absolutely stunning - the detail is excellent and love the photography.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: H on April 08, 2012, 09:45:28 PM
Super well-observed detail and bags of atmosphere; a top quality layout.

H.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on April 08, 2012, 09:46:51 PM
I continue to be blown away by this layout and all your work - tremendous modelling :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: galway on April 08, 2012, 10:10:02 PM
Wow WowWowWowWow
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: 4x2 on April 08, 2012, 10:17:44 PM
And all of a sudden my layout now looks crap...  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

That is one hell of a layout - great attention to detail, great atmosphere and quality workmanship..... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I'm really looking forward to see more progress on this superb layout !
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Elvinley on April 08, 2012, 10:21:03 PM
Looking great!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: scotsoft on April 08, 2012, 10:24:22 PM
Simply superb  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on April 08, 2012, 11:02:08 PM
Thank you - I really appreciate your comments. This has taken me around six months and I feel like I've run a modelling marathon, so your feedback really makes it all-the-more worthwhile :)

Mark
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Claude Dreyfus on April 08, 2012, 11:47:38 PM
Just to echo the superlatives on here, as well as on RMWeb, this is a seriously good standard of modelling. I'm sure I am not alone in being both inspired by your modelling and not a little envious for your skills...

I do like to keep an eye on this project, it is in the top two or three layout projects on the forums I am a member of.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Mustermark on April 09, 2012, 12:36:52 AM
Magical.  Absolutely stunning. :o  Better and better each time. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Dock Shunter on April 09, 2012, 02:15:45 AM
Top Quality modelling.....as usual........ :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Fratton on April 09, 2012, 04:01:25 AM
brilliant work love the track infastructure really good!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: GrahamB on April 09, 2012, 08:05:30 AM
How have I managed to miss this thread until now?

Impressive stuff. Any chance of it appearing on the exhibition circuit?
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on April 09, 2012, 10:23:33 AM
Thanks again for your kind comments :)

Frankland is not an exhibition layout I'm afraid, it's not my thing. But I like to think my posts give you a better view than you'd ever get from behind a crowd barrier at an exhibition - and hopefully more of an insight into Frankland too :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: MinZaPint on April 09, 2012, 10:37:50 AM
The period atmosphere of this layout is absolutely fantastic and the presentation of your updates is superb, love the video clips! I think I shall keep my layout hidden from view in future! The anticipation between updates reminds me of sweet rationing! you keep hoping the next one will come tomorrow. Brilliant work  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: GrahamB on October 04, 2012, 10:12:26 PM
I was talking about this layout at my local club this evening.

Are there any developments?
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: swisstony on October 04, 2012, 10:19:14 PM
That is some layout, puts mine to shame wish I had more spare time :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on October 04, 2012, 10:37:44 PM
Thank you: Work is progressing but nothing worth an update for a month or so I'm afraid.

Meanwhile,
 

here's something to keep you entertained whilst you wait
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d8o6pIehhs#)

:)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: longbridge on October 05, 2012, 01:57:04 AM
Fantastic modelling SB, as the Americans say "real eye candy"  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Greybeema on November 05, 2012, 01:08:52 PM
Southernboy,

Must be about time for another update?
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Mustermark on November 05, 2012, 02:07:03 PM
I second that!  I saw this post come up in the 'recent unread' and I got all excited... :photospleasesign:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: galway on November 05, 2012, 08:08:11 PM
I second that!  I saw this post come up in the 'recent unread' and I got all excited... :photospleasesign:

I had same thought's, I think I missed a beat in the excitement of opening topic  :(
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on November 05, 2012, 11:12:18 PM
Evening gents, thanks for your interest.

I hope to have an update between now and Christmas (only eight shopping-weeks left you know!)

Meanwhile, here's a clip of a few trains :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6pT46JKUGo&feature=plcp (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6pT46JKUGo&feature=plcp)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 02, 2013, 11:22:12 PM
Frankland update


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Hello everyone and welcome to another in our series of occasional broadcasts from Frankland...



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Today it is a fine Spring morning here in Frankland and we're taking the early tram down to the shops.

Have your tickets ready please!



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/tram-ticket_zpsf63f41d4.jpg)


So here we are arriving on an early morning tram ...


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-sequence-01b_zps545b5471.jpg)

This is the stop we want ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-00_zps014d2d63.jpg)


... let's hop off and take a tour of the shops.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-01_zps56ff55b8.jpg)

It's quite quiet at the moment, most people are still in bed.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-02_zps4be73e59.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-03_zps63c31a43.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-04_zps66427104.jpg)


First we come to Fulk Bros Family Butcher and next door is Walkers Boot Repairer, Leather Seller and Ironmongers.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-05_zpsb9fd1f83.jpg)


Next door we have Mrs D'Creasy Grocer and Haberdasher, with a fine display of wools in the window.
In the middle is the Stationer & Newsagents, and on the right J Lyons Tea Rooms.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-06_zpse95aa345.jpg)


And finally we come to Clements Gentlemens' Outfitters, and Rashbrooks Bicycle & Radio shop.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-07_zpsd2b0adf7.jpg)


We'll pop down the alleyway to the right of Rashbrooks and take a look at the back of the shops.


Here's the view you get from the top of the flats next door.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-21_zps846ec11d.jpg)


I think that's an old tin bath in the yard on the left ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-20_zps8725f6d6.jpg)


If we take the path on the right we'll come out by the butchers again.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-19_zpsa29bb77c.jpg)


Well it looks like people are starting to wake up - the butcher boy's bike is out and Walker's are putting their wares on display.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-08_zpsb2e678a5.jpg)


Mrs D'Creasy uses old tea chests and baskets and beer crates to display her fruit and veg. And next door I see the morning newspaper headlines are out. A pleasant feature of this area is the stepped-kerb pavement.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-09_zpsfbd7f15b.jpg)


Lyons Tea Rooms have their 'A' board out advertising ices and teas, very tempting.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-50-iced-teas_zpsd21b5263.jpg)


And here's some bicycles outside Rashbrooks.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-10_zpsa99d37c8.jpg)


Well the sun is coming out  and the day seems to be warming up quite a bit ... 

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-11_zps4d1167bd.jpg)

... but we don't want that butchers meat in the window cooking in this heat - better slide the blind down!

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-12_zps407a8cb0.jpg)


Oh, that was fun! Let's do it again!

Blind in ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-13_zps9c57be8c.jpg)


Blind out :)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-14_zps39da009d.jpg)


Hmmm, it seems quite a few of the shop keepers are in on the act!

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-100_zps39bf3a1e.jpg)


Well enough frivolity - although it's sunny now I can see dark skies on the horizon so we should be going soon - but before we leave let's take a view from across the road of all the shops together.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-15_zpsece6fe0d.jpg)


As we walk back to the tram stop we pass the statue of Alderman Frankland, it's quite a local landmark I suppose.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-16_zps909aba44.jpg)


And behind the statue is the old horse trough of course - although these days it's just a place to park taxis.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-17_zps00d120d4.jpg)

But quick! There's our tram!

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tour-of-old-shops-18_zpsc441e76a.jpg)

And off we sail into town ...

I'm going dancing - come join me after the end of the news :)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Tram-sequence-02_zps1f222d3f.jpg)



And that is the end of the news.

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Dance music for the rest of this evening comes from the Mayfair Hotel, London ...


Dance music for the rest of this evening comes from the Mayfair Hotel, London (http://youtu.be/bcMDaq-Nkdo)


:)


EDIT:

New YouTube of Frankland:

http://youtu.be/PXB8MY4IhIM (http://youtu.be/PXB8MY4IhIM)

:) :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Pengi on January 02, 2013, 11:29:41 PM
Absolutely sensational!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: tadpole on January 02, 2013, 11:38:40 PM
stunning!

a working shop blind would be good in OO, but in N it's positively sensational.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: EtchedPixels on January 02, 2013, 11:41:33 PM
Brilliant modelling. I trust the blinds are remote controlled ;)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Pete Mc on January 02, 2013, 11:46:43 PM
Brilliant,well worth the wait for the format of the update alone,not to mention the absolutely superb modelling.

Pete
 :Class31: :Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: scotsoft on January 03, 2013, 12:11:55 AM
Exceptional work, I have followed your builds as you posted them but seeing them all together in place is so pleasurable.

Thank you - John.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: H on January 03, 2013, 12:28:39 AM
Nice. Very ni  i   i   i   i   i  ce.  :D

H. 
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: 4x2 on January 03, 2013, 12:34:32 AM
 ................ :goggleeyes:

This is me speachless !

Fantastic work southern boy, i could easily mistake your work for O gauge finescale ! The big mags will be fighting to get your layout featured....

  :admiration: :admiration: :admiration:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Dock Shunter on January 03, 2013, 02:23:18 AM
As always the standard of your modelling is simply exquisite........ :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Greybeema on January 03, 2013, 07:07:30 AM
Absolutely stunning. Well worth the wait.
Something to aspire to and yes the big magazines should be publishing your work.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: GrahamB on January 03, 2013, 09:23:26 AM
Well worth the wait. Stunning.

You really do need to build an exhibition version.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 03, 2013, 09:34:52 AM
A blinder...
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 03, 2013, 11:02:53 AM
Thank you everyone for your kind comments - really very much appreciated - and especially so coming from fellow N gaugers :)

I hope to make a short video in the next few weeks so I'll post that when it's done.

Thanks again!

Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: MinZaPint on January 03, 2013, 11:54:01 AM
Fabulous, well worth waiting for, the modelling is superb and the presentation perfect.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on January 03, 2013, 01:07:10 PM
 :whiteflag:

I think I'll take up knitting :-[
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Gnep on January 03, 2013, 01:19:57 PM
Absolutely superb modelling. Extraordinary to think this is "N"!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Dock Shunter on January 03, 2013, 01:22:02 PM
:whiteflag:

I think I'll take up knitting :-[

I know what you mean Mick.......don't like knitting.....might try Paint by Numbers or dig the old Etch-a-Sketch out....... :D
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: davieb on January 03, 2013, 04:29:42 PM
Brilliant Layout  :thumbsup:

Just keeps getting Better and Better  :claphappy:

i think i'm going back to Fishing  :worried:  :D

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: MinZaPint on January 03, 2013, 04:43:50 PM
:whiteflag:

I think I'll take up knitting :-[

Taking bets on when you drop the first stitch!  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Caz on January 03, 2013, 06:40:04 PM
Absolutely superb modelling, love the architectural features on the buildings, are these scratch built or from kits?   :claphappy:   :claphappy:   :claphappy:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Agrippa on January 03, 2013, 06:42:21 PM
A most impressive layout, looking forward to the forthcoming video,
hopefully with Sir John Betjeman reading Metroland!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: MinZaPint on January 03, 2013, 08:14:48 PM
Absolutely superb modelling, love the architectural features on the buildings, are these scratch built or from kits?   :claphappy:   :claphappy:   :claphappy:

If you look on RM web you'll find that a lot of the construction detail is shown, apparently it won't fit on our forum, the detail is incredible, I can't believe N gauge sausages in the butchers and the radios!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 03, 2013, 10:23:09 PM
Thanks for further comments gents - glad you like my work - it is praise indeed coming from the likes of you who appreciate how fiddly N gauge can sometimes be :)

MinZaPint is right, the N Gauge Forum has a limit to the size of posts, and unfortunately I tend to write monster-sized updates so the forum software rejects them. I suppose I could have posted a Part 1 and Part 2 but didn't think of that before ...  so in slightly back-to-front fashion ... pasted below is the 'Part 1' :)



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Hello everyone and welcome to another in our series of occasional broadcasts from Frankland...

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BOOKS:

First up we have two books recently added to the Frankland Library.

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LSWR Carriages of the 20th Century has long been out of print and so I was very pleased to find a rare copy in excellent condition, and at a reasonable price too. It covers the passenger stock that would have run on Frankland in the earlier years and so for me is essential reading. 

Track: How It Works and How to Model It is a new publication from the 2mm Association which I have only recently received - but from a quick skim through the 140 pages it certainly looks like it does what it says on the tin.   


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NEW LOCOMOTIVE

A new locomotive was seen passing through Frankland recently ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/T9-01.jpg)


... but what was it?

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/T9-02.jpg)


It was the Union Mills T9  -   my first properly 'in period' locomotive.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/T9-03.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/T9-04.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/T9-05.jpg)


Very chuffed I am with it too :)


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TREES:

Since the houses at the top of the hill were built I've always felt they looked a little stark ...


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Grass-02.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Semis-overview.jpg)



So when I visited the 4D Model Shop and saw their magnificent Silver Birch trees I had to make a purchase ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/BIrch-trees-01.jpg)



... well, three purchases in fact.  And what an improvement to the view - Frankland is becoming quite a leafy suburb these days

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/BIrch-trees-03.jpg)


But there was something needed to complete the scene - Tree Guards


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Trees--Chestnut-Pailings-02.jpg)


There, that's better :)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Trees-Hill-view-01.jpg)

For the tree guards I used Chestnut Paling, also from the 4D Model Shop.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Chestnut-pailing-fence.jpg)


I also bought a tree for outside the shops, but felt railings would suit this location better than paling.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Trees-fence-03.jpg)

I used Ratio Spear Fencing (with the spears cut off) - but not without difficulty: Try as I did to roll the fencing into a tight curve (using warm water, the heat of my hand etc), it just kept snapping. So I laid a section of railing onto a strip of masking tape, gently rolled the tape around a paint brush and put a peg on it, then immersed it in hot water, next ran it under cold water, and hey-presto!

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Trees-Rolling-fence.jpg)



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Trees-fence-02.jpg)


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[size=135]And now to our main story[/size]

OLD SHOPS FOR FRANKLAND

The last time we visited Frankland was to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the famous viaducts, and at that time the old shops at the bottom of the hill looked like this. Obviously something had to be done about it!


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For inspiration I planned to visit some old shops at Clapham North that still bore original Victorian painted adverts for such things as Pianola rolls. But when I went to look at them the buildings had been gentrified. Luckily a few pictures can be found online:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/vicimacdonald/5209914985/#in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vicimacdonald/5209914985/#in/photostream/)


And here's how they look today ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Clapham-Highstreet-Streetview-01.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Clapham-Highstreet-Streetview-02.jpg)

So I worked from a combination of observing the buildings as they are now, and online finds of old pictures of these and similar shops, to plan how things should look for Frankland.   

The original buildings are in a straight line, whereas mine go round a curve in the road - and have to fit in an awkward shape that is narrower at the back than at the front ... and at first I wasn't sure how to deal with this.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Frankland-Old-shops-05.jpg)

Then I remembered some shops at Clapham Common and a quick Google came up with some answers ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Clapham-Pavement-01.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Clapham-Pavement-02.jpg)


Next I researched period shops and started a sort of 'crib sheet'...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-plan.jpg)


... and after a few plans and card mock-ups, work commenced. Here's the back of the shops (the yards are detachable to make them easier to work on).

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-24.jpg)


And here are the front of the shops / rooves.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-27.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-33.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-31.jpg)


Next onto the part I was most excited about - the pilasters - they are quite exquisite. I've had them for ages and have been really looking forward to making use of them

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-37pillasters.jpg)

And here they are lined up along the extended shop fronts. The extended shop fronts are a separate section to the main buildings for ease of working.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-37-pillasters-02.jpg)


Then onto making the individual shop fronts. Each is based on an original period photograph.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-45-Construction.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-40.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-41.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-42.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-48-Construction.jpg)


And a dry-run to see how things were looking ...


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-46.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-47.jpg)



For the rooves I used strips of masking tape to represent asphalt

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-58-asphalt-roof.jpg)




And that was the basic shell completed - so next onto painting and detailing.

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I took my camera out to snap buildings of the period in order to gauge colour, patina and other details of surviving buildings of this period.


An original street sign

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Source%20material/Air-Street-shop-02.jpg)

Bricked up windows

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Source%20material/Lower-John-Street-01.jpg)

A wonderfully faded and worn old shop front. Look at how battered and knocked-about are the pair of doors and frames on the left.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Source%20material/Beak-Street-02.jpg)

Bricks and window frames akimbo!

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Source%20material/Rippons-Dean-Street-02.jpg)

A photo taken square-on to illustrate how the bar over the door is considerably lower on the right compared to the left!

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Source%20material/Rippons-Dean-Street-03.jpg)


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And then painting commenced...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-60-painting.jpg)

... including lots of dry-brushing.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-62-painting.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-66-painting.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-89-drains.jpg)



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By now my crib sheet had extended to include signs, interiors and other features ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Shops-plan.jpg)


... from which various items were printed onto photographic paper (left) and Crafty Computer paper (right).


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Shopsignsprinted.jpg)


The Crafty Computer Paper was used to create the adverts painted onto the walls


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-96-ghost-signs-Bovril-weathered.jpg)


And then I started work on the more fiddly bits.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-98-displays.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-windows-103-Dormers.jpg)

These are radio sets ...


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-103-Radios.jpg)


... here they are in a shop display ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-104-Radios.jpg)


... and here's the shop window.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-105-Rashbrooks.jpg)


I used slices of sprue to make cakes ...


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-105-Lyons.jpg)


... and here's that cake display: Delicious Iced Madeira Cake, Cherry Almond Cake, Rich Tea Cake dusted with Icing sugar, Chocolate Cake, Coffee & Walnut cake, and a tempting selection of Petit Fours and Cupcakes in a variety of delicious flavours.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-106-Lyons.jpg)


But this was the one I found most difficult...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Butchers-shop-carcasses-01.jpg)

... meat for the butcher's window. I used Squadron Putty to form the shape of the carcass around the frame and it took quite a few attempts to get it right.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Butchers-shop-carcasses-02.jpg)

And here's the rest of the display: big juicy steaks, pork pies and sausages.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Butchers-shop-window-displays-01.jpg)


The next item is a bit 'general purpose': It is a section of thin Plasticard grooved quite deeply with sandpaper and painted. In N gauge it can equally represent wood as well as wicker ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Old-shops-131-wooden-slats-for-awnings.jpg)


... and is useful for such things as the wicker basket on this delivery bike. I didn't make the bike, but I made the basket and frame for the basket.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Butchers-Bike.jpg)


I also needed a horse trough - so here's one made from Plasticard, Plastic Rod, and an off-cut of plastic sprue.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Horse-Trough-01_zpsa7420f31.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Horse-Trough-02_zpsdc6ac742.jpg)

Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Dr Al on January 04, 2013, 02:04:01 AM
The standard of modelling here is mouthwatering, jawdropping.   :o

You really have an eye for turning what you see into a perfect miniature representation! Beautiful.

Best,
Alan

Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on January 04, 2013, 07:57:54 AM
The standard of modelling is just awesome in the extreme :jawdropping:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Flakmunky on January 04, 2013, 02:08:34 PM
I might as well just go home...!  :(

Stunning!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Dock Shunter on January 04, 2013, 05:02:31 PM
After all the high praise heaped on this layout,and indeed it is a masterpiece in the making,but i don't think it is beyond criticism.......... :worried:
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So........in the 9th picture down............ there are two bottles of champagne on the window ledge.......
I would suggest you move them to the the fridge Southern Boy as they will taste awful if you leave them there for too long.........
There,i'm glad i got that off my chest......... :D
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: daveg on January 04, 2013, 06:48:44 PM
 :laughabovepost: well spotted that man!

As for the rest: Lost for words - brilliant stuff!

Dave G
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 04, 2013, 11:06:49 PM
" ... there are two bottles of champagne on the window ledge..."

Sorry, I should have mentioned : There's a tradition in Frankland that every shopkeeper leaves two bottles of Champagne outside for the first two customers of the day. It both encourages custom and gives lazy people a good reason to get out of bed and on with their shopping chores ASAP!!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 05, 2013, 11:38:02 AM
:whiteflag:

I think I'll take up knitting :-[

Want to start a circle Mick ?

FANTASTIC WORK , SOUTHERN BOY the envy button is working overtime !!!!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 05, 2013, 04:09:58 PM
New YouTube  of Frankland:

http://youtu.be/PXB8MY4IhIM (http://youtu.be/PXB8MY4IhIM)

:) :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Pengi on January 05, 2013, 05:19:55 PM
Great video and the music is very appropriate!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: MinZaPint on January 05, 2013, 05:30:35 PM
What's next world domination? Smashing video  :thumbsup: by the look of the posts you've done wonders for the revival of an evening knitting circle! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/UKMaggie/Miscellaneous/knitting.gif)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: intraclast on January 05, 2013, 08:04:21 PM
Astounding stuff!  I love reading the updates from Frankland as quality of narration matches that of the modelling. I find myself putting on the voice off of the old news reels in my head :).  Great stuff, and thanks for posting part one, its great to see how you acheived such a high standard.

Mark
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 05, 2013, 09:22:09 PM
intraclast
"I find myself putting on the voice of the old news reels in my head"

Some people like to learn German or Spanish, or maybe Chinese these days ... but think I should learn 'Received English' (ie. the  proper old BBC way of pronunciation). :) :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on January 05, 2013, 09:27:36 PM
intraclast
"I find myself putting on the voice of the old news reels in my head"

Some people like to learn German or Spanish, or maybe Chinese these days ... but think I should learn 'Received English' (ie. the  proper old BBC way of pronunciation). :) :)


Look no further than..................

Harry Enfield - Mr Cholmondley Warner on The Working Class (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQWPR9TM0Gk#)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Claude Dreyfus on January 05, 2013, 09:44:41 PM
This layout does conjure up thoughts of Jeeves and Wooster.

"I say Jeeves, I have had the most boffo wheeze! We can mozey on down to jolly old Frankland for a spot of tiffin. I understand it has the most topping eggs benedict!"

"Very good sir"

"An absolute beezer location I hear tell".

"Of course Sir".

etc. etc.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 05, 2013, 09:50:53 PM
hello newportnobby:

That won't do at all - too much Working Class and far too common for Frankland: We much prefer more sophisticated material:

Women: Know Your Limits! Harry Enfield - BBC comedy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w#)


:) :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on January 05, 2013, 09:52:43 PM
Gulp!
I wasn't brave enough to put that one on :-[ ;)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Caz on January 05, 2013, 10:01:00 PM
Dangerous ground, very dangerous ground  :veryangry:   :veryangry:   :-X
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on January 05, 2013, 10:03:14 PM
Dangerous ground, very dangerous ground  :veryangry:   :veryangry:   :-X

Now you know why, Southernboy :laughabovepost: :worried: :worried: :worried:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 05, 2013, 10:11:10 PM
No I don't know why at all old chap  (he said in Proper BBC English)  ... and of course I'm wearing my Dinner Jacket by the way :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Tank on January 06, 2013, 11:13:29 AM
As always you've done an amazing job on your layout.  It's always great to see a layout with steam and early EMU's.  This is actually what I'd like to do in years to come - but I'm sure it will never have the engineering qualities that your buildings have.   :no: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 06, 2013, 11:27:46 AM
Thanks Tank:

" ...I'm sure it will never have the engineering qualities that your buildings have."

Well I started this version of Frankland in September 2007 and once the track and basic landscaping was done, I've concentrated almost entirely on just the buildings  -  so that is five years (of spare time from work of course) focused just on learning to make buildings. I think if you or anyone else invested that sort of time you could do just as well or better.

Not everyone is interested in buildings of course - for others it's a fascination with stock, or signalling, but the point is that if someone wants to, and spends enough time, most things are achievable one way or another :)

Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: SD35 on January 06, 2013, 11:39:33 AM
I love this layout.  You know you've won a watch and produced something special when other people can spot the time and place just from a quick glance. 
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: MinZaPint on January 06, 2013, 04:31:30 PM
Dangerous ground, very dangerous ground  :veryangry:   :veryangry:   :-X

Someone's ruffled the old girls feathers! bit of sweet talking required to calm her down abit NN  :angel:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Jonspadge on January 11, 2013, 09:10:47 PM
A wonderful wonderful layout and you have me wondering about the one I will do next. Please when you work on your stations you have to have a little kiosk selling cigarettes and newspapers to all those busy commuters. Even when the stations were new with all their crisp white concrete there was a little brown wooden kiosk!!

Amazing stuff.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: chorleysteve on January 13, 2013, 11:10:01 AM
all I can say is "inspirational"
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Hailstone on January 23, 2013, 03:56:27 PM
I just discovered this layout yesterday on RmWeb and have just finished reading about it on the forum as well, and I believe that you are doing for the southern what Copenhagen Fields has done for the LNER  - some of the most outstanding models I have seen - almost Pendonesque and in 2mm scale! they make my own efforts look half baked, but I am looking forward to the next report from Frankland.
By the way, I love the music to your last video, It really sets it off beautifully, what is it called and who it it by? 
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 23, 2013, 10:38:29 PM
Thanks for your comments folks :)

Hailstone:
I have to say Copenhagen Fields is a massive inspiration for me (how can it fail to inspire anyone in N gauge or 2mm modelling!?!)

Glad you liked the music - it's 'Choo Choo' by Jack Payne and his Orchestra, I think from around 1931 or 1932.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: PostModN66 on June 20, 2013, 09:58:58 PM
As a relative newcomer to the forum, just found this thread.........and at the risk of being boring just need to say what a sublime layout!   :goggleeyes:

Jon



   
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Greybeema on June 21, 2013, 12:50:26 PM
Must be time for another update…. Any chance Southernboy?
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on June 22, 2013, 09:50:18 PM
I'm awfully sorry but Frankland is before the internet was invented and so communicating updates is rather difficult as you can imagine.

If you are better-off you may have purchased one of the new  'tele-vision'  sets.


http://youtu.be/e-Wq69EJ2Vs (http://youtu.be/e-Wq69EJ2Vs)


Do you think  'tele-vision'  will catch on?

If so we will bring you an update as soon as there is news worth reporting of course :)

Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on June 22, 2013, 09:59:20 PM
(Best Cholmondley-Warner voice)
Oh no, Grayson. Thet sort of thing will never catch on amongst the masses! What does one think would happen to all the playhouses if people stayed at home squinting at a little thing like thet. Apart from thet, when the National Anthem played I, of course, stood up and my laptop thingy creshed to the linoleum with disastrous effect :'(
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on June 22, 2013, 10:35:01 PM
Oh my goodness Mr Nobby, whet an orful thing to heppen.

One does howpe ones leptop thing is ok (whatever thet is) but respect for the monarch always takes precedent of course old chep, irrespective of slightly inconvenient consequences ...
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Phil Hendry on June 22, 2013, 10:55:31 PM
I have only just found this thread.  Oh boy!  What superb modelling.  So well observed, and superbly modelled.  I think I'm going to give up modelling and take up tiddlywinks or something.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Pete Mc on June 24, 2013, 01:10:33 AM
I was going to try adding something in a Tim Nice-But-Dim style but got stuck on hello!

Harloo,Dim,Tim Nice-But-Dim herre.....

Hard work this trying to get a specific accent translated.

Anyway,for the umpteenth time already,fantastic layout,superb buildings,blah,blah,blah.

I too have read the thread on other forums of this layout which always has people making comments about not believing its n gauge or 2mm scale.Just shows what can be done and gives our chosen scale which some still regard as toyish a boost.

Pete
 :Class31: :Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Brinley on June 24, 2013, 01:27:28 PM
Absolutely stunning. I still have lot to learn! ::)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: IanUK on June 24, 2013, 08:04:54 PM
 :jawdropping: Such imagination, skill and presentation...I haven't even laid a piece of track...will someone please pass me the Prozac  :'(

If anyone one comes looking for me, Ill be sitting on my N gauge viaduct contemplating whether to end my fledgling modelling life or, to go round npn's with my needles  :(

@Southernboy  :thumbsup:

Ian
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on June 24, 2013, 09:49:32 PM


If anyone one comes looking for me, Ill be sitting on my N gauge viaduct contemplating whether to end my fledgling modelling life or, to go round npn's with my needles  :(

Ian

Now there's a fate worse than death :worried:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Sithlord75 on February 01, 2014, 12:49:26 PM
Just come back to this thread - well I have lurked several times so it isn't all new - and funnily enough its because of the first page!

I have just put together the same gasometer kit from Walters and I was wondering if you could give all of us (but me especially  :D) a run down on it again.  I am hoping for a similar sort of effect to put mine on my layout based on St Alban's Abbey which had the St Alban's Gas Works as a major source of traffic and a significant presence brooding over the yard.

Still one of the best layouts going around!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: PostModN66 on February 01, 2014, 01:01:25 PM
Southernboy - it's about time for another little video - it's a year since the last one!

Or some photos at least!

Cheers  Jon    :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: daveg on February 01, 2014, 02:38:12 PM
... I am hoping for a similar sort of effect to put mine on my layout based on St Alban's Abbey which had the St Alban's Gas Works as a major source of traffic and a significant presence brooding over the yard.

Nice single track plan.

My local station was Watford North for more than 25 years and used the 'Abbey Flyer' a fair bit.

The gasworks and sidings are long gone from the Abbey end. There's posh offices on the site now. Slogging up Holywell Hill was a killer!

Dave G
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on February 01, 2014, 03:15:16 PM
Hello Sithlord75,

I can't believe it was seven years ago that I built the gasometer, for my first rendition of Frankland. I've had it so long that I often don't even notice it's there any more! But I still love it. It really sets an atmosphere and is a great focal point.

I'm afraid that back then I wasn't in the habit of taking pictures of work-in-progress, so only have the photos below taken on completion.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Gasometer-04.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Gasometer-03.jpg)

Construction was per the instructions that came with the kit.

Before painting I did a lot of picture research on the web for inspiration on colours. I believe colours tended to be light (I suppose to make gasometers less incongruous against the skyline) but over the years (especially toward the end of town gas and in the years of abandonment since)  the degree of rust increased until you get to the point where the whole structure became just dark and satanic rusty browns and oranges.

So which colours you paint depends on your timeframe. Mine was painted as a gasometer in use, but a little dilapidated all-the-same.

I used Vallejo Acrylics - a Sea-Green and Duck-Egg Blue if I remember rightly.

On the top I stenciled the letters you see (the paint was stippled), which I'd read was something done to the top selected buildings along flight paths in the early days of aviation to aid pilot navigation before they had instruments to direct them.

Next I dry-brushed two horizontal bands using weathered browny / orange colours (around one third and two-thirds up the structure) to represent the oily/rusty sediment that would accumulate where the cylinders telescoped up and down according to pressure. I did this with a number of light applications to gradually build a patina, varying the mix of paints a little each time,

I then loosely washed vertically with light sooty colours to represent years of smoke and grime and rainfall.

Finally I used some mid browns and bright oranges for the rusted areas. For these I combined washes / dry brushing / stippling to various degrees until they 'looked right'.

A matt aerosol varnish sealed the finished model. I didn't know about weathering powders in 2007 - so didn't apply them, but guess I still could.


Hope that helps and I look forward to seeing how your gasometer turns out. I'm also going to catch up on your blog - I just took a quick flick to see you have some of the Kestrel semi-detached houses (amongst other things) - I'll be interested to find out how you got on with those.

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Hello Jon,

that's a very timely question as I made a short video a few days ago. In my signature is a link to my workbench where you'll see progress on three 3-Subs I have been working on.

When finished one of the units will be in LSWR livery, and the other two in early Southern Railway Livery.

I made my own couplings and the video was a test of how they performed on tight curves. The reason I wanted to test was because the couplings bring the gap between carriages down to 4mm, so I needed to ensure there was no buffeting on the curves.

http://youtu.be/id2X_z_6NDA (http://youtu.be/id2X_z_6NDA)

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Thanks for your interest :)


Mark

Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: PostModN66 on February 01, 2014, 03:26:59 PM
Hurrah!    :claphappy:

Jon  :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2014, 05:30:56 PM
I reckon you have that close coupling as tight as you can get, Mark :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on February 01, 2014, 05:50:32 PM
Thanks,

here's a picture, the gap as I say is around 4mm.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-271-Coupling_zps6a2b628b.jpg)


That's the closest I can get without the cars buffeting on corners ...


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-265-Coupling_zps07bc52fa.jpg)

Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: willike1958 on February 01, 2014, 06:25:07 PM
Fantastic modelling and great videos. How far are you off completing the layout?
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on February 01, 2014, 06:46:14 PM
Hello willike1958,

I think around five years.

I made a list the other day of the major things still to do:

1) A bank of shops at the top of the hill
2) Flats with integral tube station at the top of the hill
3) Small business next to the semis
4) Pub and/or shops at bottom of hill
5) Tube station at bottom of hill
6) Cinema at bottom of hill
7) Department store at bottom of hill

Then rail-side I have:

1) Frankland Station
2) Frankland Park Station
3) Sub Station
4) Signal Box

There are also things like back-scene, fencing, signalling, people, street lamps, telegraph poles, more road vehicles etc to add.

That long list should keep me out of mischief for quite some while :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Greybeema on February 01, 2014, 07:09:24 PM
Thanks for the update Southernboy - Its been a long time...
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Sithlord75 on February 01, 2014, 11:57:45 PM
Thanks for the tips on the gasometer.   :thankyousign:

The Kestrel houses have always had an attraction and reading the makeover done in N'spirations 3 was enough to make me do something.  I'll end up with 8 or 9 depending on side yards - but that's for a different thread.
 
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Sithlord75 on February 02, 2014, 12:03:19 AM
... I am hoping for a similar sort of effect to put mine on my layout based on St Alban's Abbey which had the St Alban's Gas Works as a major source of traffic and a significant presence brooding over the yard.

Nice single track plan.

My local station was Watford North for more than 25 years and used the 'Abbey Flyer' a fair bit.

The gasworks and sidings are long gone from the Abbey end. There's posh offices on the site now. Slogging up Holywell Hill was a killer!

Dave G

Actually I'm looking at doing it when it was a GNR/LNWR joint terminus - in 2mmFS!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: daveg on February 02, 2014, 09:04:48 AM
... I am hoping for a similar sort of effect to put mine on my layout based on St Alban's Abbey which had the St Alban's Gas Works as a major source of traffic and a significant presence brooding over the yard.

Nice single track plan.

My local station was Watford North for more than 25 years and used the 'Abbey Flyer' a fair bit.

The gasworks and sidings are long gone from the Abbey end. There's posh offices on the site now. Slogging up Holywell Hill was a killer!

Dave G

Actually I'm looking at doing it when it was a GNR/LNWR joint terminus - in 2mmFS!

Well before my time so will be interesting to watch it develop.

Dave G
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 02, 2014, 09:33:58 PM
I've just found this wonderful model railway; fantastic period details. the next best thing to taking a trip in the Tardis. (I wonder if the good doctor has ever visited Frankland?) I love the buildings and street scenes. The period-style updates are works of art in themselves.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on February 08, 2015, 04:34:44 PM
1926: New Stock for Frankland


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-Header_zpsefi7jcod.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-Header_zpsefi7jcod.jpg.html)



Hello everyone,

well it's 1926 here on Frankland and Mr Maunsell's new carriages have been delivered.

They were first glimpsed early the other morning in the carriage sidings.




Firstly a three set plus van arrived ....


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-3-set_zpsqpsnl5p6.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-3-set_zpsqpsnl5p6.jpg.html)



Then shortly after a four set and van were hauled in, followed by a couple of loose carriages for bolstering.
They look quite magnificent I think.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-4-set_zpsb2es03yz.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-4-set_zpsb2es03yz.jpg.html)


Today I pottered over to Frankland to catch a glimpse of the 3.55 semi-fast from Amblesea to London passing through.



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-T9-Train_zpse1eicszr.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-T9-Train_zpse1eicszr.jpg.html)



The semi-fasts from Amblesea are always a 3-set and the first carriage is a Brake Third

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-T9-Train-10_zpsbtexql8p.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-T9-Train-10_zpsbtexql8p.jpg.html)



The second carraige is a Composite

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-T9-Train-11_zpswem6dynf.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-T9-Train-11_zpswem6dynf.jpg.html)



And at the back is a second Brake Third, plus a van, because of course, everyone always sends their luggage ahead.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-T9-Train-12_zpsaljklbam.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-T9-Train-12_zpsaljklbam.jpg.html)



As I'm sure you know, the subject of Southern Railway set numbers is quite a complex matter, but a quick flick through my reference book about all-things Frankland quickly established that these sets are in the 251 - 264 range.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Frankland-book-01_zps4034b213.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Frankland%20idents/Frankland-book-01_zps4034b213.jpg.html)

-------------------------------------------------

Next up are a couple of detail pictures.

The first shows the gangways, which I believe are a first in N gauge. They really make a visual difference.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-Gangway-detail_zpsslzhwefb.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-Gangway-detail_zpsslzhwefb.jpg.html)



Other delightful details include Smoking Signs on the windows, retaining clips for Destination  Boards, and seat number indicators.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-detailing_zpsi5llaxid.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-detailing_zpsi5llaxid.jpg.html)




So that's the three set. The Southern retained a good stock of additional 'loose carriages' to bolster their sets, which could include Pullmans, Restuarant cars etc.



Mr Maunsell's order included some additional 'loose' stock for Frankland: Here's are an all-First and all-Third corridor ...


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-First_zpsmo8gitfr.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-First_zpsmo8gitfr.jpg.html)



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-Third_zps0pmbmkjv.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-Third_zps0pmbmkjv.jpg.html)


and some vans ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-Van_zpstdy78etq.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Maunsell-Van_zpstdy78etq.jpg.html)


At some point I think the rooves of the carriages could do with a little toning down. Out of the box they appear ex-works. Maybe I'll leave one set ex-works, and another I'll tone down, it's good to have a bit of a mish-mash of finishes.



Finally, I received some tail lamps this week, obviously essential for the end of each set. 
Along with a florin, half-crown, tanner and farthing - I do miss 'proper' money  ;)



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Coins-and-tail-lamps_zpsflc0hgrh.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Coins-and-tail-lamps_zpsflc0hgrh.jpg.html)


Thanks for listening :)

Mark
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Greybeema on February 08, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Great to hear from you Mark.

Any chance of an overall update on Franklands.  Wonderful modelling...
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: chorleysteve on February 08, 2015, 05:20:21 PM
they look great behind the T9

and the faux book cover is as inspired as the layout
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on February 08, 2015, 05:39:04 PM
Hello Greybeema,

a proper newsreel will follow in due course, but only after the 3-Subs are finished, so it may be some months yet I'm afraid:)

chorleysteve:
'faux book cover'?   :goggleeyes:  Have you tried eBay or reputable antiique book sellers? It's really a book worth obtaining if you have any interest in the subject matter :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: talisman56 on February 08, 2015, 05:50:55 PM
I say Frankland has a really good time machine, seeing as the first low-window 'standard' Maunsells were delivered in July and October 1926... :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on February 08, 2015, 06:36:04 PM
Did I say 1924?

Are you sure I didn't say 1926?  I'm certain if you go back and check my thread it is dated 1926 ;)


Either way, I bow to your better knowleadge Talisman :)  Frankland for me is more about a broad sense of time and place rather than day/date/time accuracy, even if I am cheeky enough to go back and amend an original post to make it look like I know what I'm talking about when actually I'm just winging it !

But I do thank you for your correction. It's the only way I'll learn! I went straight back into my library and pulled out all my books realating to Mausell  in order to refresh my mind.

Thank you for pulling my socks up !

Mark
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: talisman56 on February 08, 2015, 06:42:10 PM
We really need a 'tongue in cheek' smiley...  :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on February 08, 2015, 07:40:25 PM
Mark - your post reads as if the corridor connections come as part of the package with the coaches. Is that a fact or are they 'scratch built' please?
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on February 08, 2015, 08:47:55 PM
Hello Mr Nobby,

The carraiges come with a 'connector' which you insert into the end of one carriage.

You insert the connector where you would expect to find the gangway door.
The gangway is telecopic, so you pull it out, and do likewise on the other carriage next to it. The 'connector' keeps the two adjacent carriage gangways in alignnment,

It's quite ingenious :)

Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: CarriageShed on February 09, 2015, 09:50:59 AM
'faux book cover'?   :goggleeyes:  Have you tried eBay or reputable antiique book sellers? It's really a book worth obtaining if you have any interest in the subject matter :)

The book looks well worth a read. I must keep an eye out for a copy  ;)

Thanks for another great report from Frankland. The coaches certainly do look wonderful and, like you, I'm thinking of different levels of 'mild' weathering for them in my 1930 snapshot of the SR. The van, though, must have been delivered by Tardis, as it was only shipped out by Eastleigh in 1938.  :-[  Still, it's the general presentation that counts. I'm guilty of having a few items of post-1930 rolling stock myself. Whoops.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Agrippa on February 09, 2015, 11:14:05 AM
What's a mere 10-12 years among friends..... :D.

Must admit Frankland is a mighty fine layout, don't know if a video is
available, would be good to see it  in action.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: talisman56 on February 09, 2015, 01:49:37 PM
Mark - your post reads as if the corridor connections come as part of the package with the coaches. Is that a fact or are they 'scratch built' please?


All explained in my review of the Maunsells at:

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=24215.msg281028#msg281028 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=24215.msg281028#msg281028)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on February 09, 2015, 03:22:13 PM
Thanks for that. I didn't realise they came with the carriages as I have no interest in the Maunsells so was hoping someone had actually come up with decent connections I could apply to other stuff. Shame for me :(
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: wookie on February 09, 2015, 03:38:58 PM
Somebody on eBay sells them to fit to any carriage.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/N-Gauge-Corridor-Connections-Set-for-3-coach-rake-/291366993402?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item43d6d37dfa (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/N-Gauge-Corridor-Connections-Set-for-3-coach-rake-/291366993402?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item43d6d37dfa)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: talisman56 on February 09, 2015, 04:14:51 PM
Thanks for that. I didn't realise they came with the carriages as I have no interest in the Maunsells so was hoping someone had actually come up with decent connections I could apply to other stuff. Shame for me :(

I'm spoilt now... with the corridor connections on the Maunsells, I want them on the Mark 1s and Bulleids I've got as well... I might try one of the packs that wookie posted a link to and see how they fare...
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: jonclox on February 11, 2015, 01:54:49 PM
Somebody on eBay sells them to fit to any carriage.
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/N-Gauge-Corridor-Connections-Set-for-3-coach-rake-/291366993402?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item43d6d37dfa[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/N-Gauge-Corridor-Connections-Set-for-3-coach-rake-/291366993402?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item43d6d37dfa[/url])

 I ordered some of these and cant say that I am impressed. They are just folded black paper and double sided sticky tape  :thumbsdown:
Other members might think they are ideal. The above comment is purely a personal one
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on July 11, 2015, 07:37:28 PM
Aeroplane Trip Over Frankland


Well it was a very exciting day today, I went on one of those novelty  "Aeroplane Afternoon~Tea Trips"  over Frankland that are all the rage at the moment.


It did cost £2/2/0 - and I know that's a week's wages for many people - but sometimes you have to push-the-boat-out a bit :)



We were greeted by the steward as we boarded the aeroplane.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Steward-01_zpszkxc65wp.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Scenics/Steward-01_zpszkxc65wp.jpg.html)



It was an Armstrong Whitworth Argosy which apparently can fly at over 90mph!


As we flew over Frankland we were served finger-sandwiches, tea, and cakes.



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/View-01_zpsjc0sykue.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Scenics/View-01_zpsjc0sykue.jpg.html)


All quite delightful and what a thing to actually be in an aeroplane!



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/View-02_zpsa5sg512p.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Scenics/View-02_zpsa5sg512p.jpg.html)


Apart from a few clouds we had a good view - and I saw a train below hauled by a locomotive I hadn't seen around Frankland before ...



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/View-04_zpsra4r787o.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Scenics/View-04_zpsra4r787o.jpg.html)



... I thought to myself I'll have to research what that locomotive was when I get home.



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/View-03_zpsci5zu9nf.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Scenics/View-03_zpsci5zu9nf.jpg.html)



So when I got home I got out my collection of Cigarette Cards.



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Set-of-Cards_zpsda81p81i.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Scenics/Set-of-Cards_zpsda81p81i.jpg.html)



Here's what I've got so far  ...  (anyone up for swops? :)   )





(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Terrier-Cigarette-Card_zpshsj5nwip.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Scenics/Terrier-Cigarette-Card_zpshsj5nwip.jpg.html)



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Greyhound-Cigarette-Card_zps2dozev2n.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Scenics/Greyhound-Cigarette-Card_zps2dozev2n.jpg.html)




(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/5-BEL-Cigarette-Card_zpslucvugjo.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Scenics/5-BEL-Cigarette-Card_zpslucvugjo.jpg.html)





I think No. 11 is the locomotive I saw ....





(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/N-Class-Cigarette-Card_zps9xht7ow0.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Scenics/N-Class-Cigarette-Card_zps9xht7ow0.jpg.html)



And it's been happily trundling around Frankland the last couple of days  ... all very exciting :)





Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 11, 2015, 07:52:30 PM
Many thanks for those truly excellent photos. wonderfully recreating life nearly a century ago. (The cigarette cards are a masterwork.) I believe both the parents of the current (1960s) Lord and Lady of Trevelver Castle, near Cant Cove, Wadebridge, went up on one of those flights when they were courting! 8-)

Lovely little engines those Ns and yours looks very smart in SR Green.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: NeMo on July 11, 2015, 07:56:11 PM
Really love this layout. Conjures up a place and time like a classic movie. Keep the updates coming.

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Caz on July 11, 2015, 08:58:18 PM
Great stuff and very clever pictures.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on July 11, 2015, 08:58:48 PM
Wonderful little tale.
 :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on July 11, 2015, 09:50:09 PM
Thank you gents - glad you enjoy my flights-of-fancy as much as I do :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Stevie DC on July 11, 2015, 10:58:24 PM
Great photographs and well tied in with the period being modelled.  8)

That N class really does look a stunner, just need a Nelson now to round out the fleet!  :D
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: JasonBz on July 11, 2015, 11:11:55 PM
Thank you gents - glad you enjoy my flights-of-fancy as much as I do :)

Your little flights of fancy take Frankland that extra step from wonderful to marvelous :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: CarriageShed on July 11, 2015, 11:32:32 PM
I loved the cigarette cards. Not too dissimilar to what I would have collected from the PG Tips tea when I were a lad.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: MinZaPint on July 12, 2015, 10:39:35 AM
Brilliant as usual  :greatpicturessign:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: PostModN66 on July 12, 2015, 11:57:55 AM
Exquisite.

Cheers  Jon  :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: mika on July 13, 2015, 11:27:03 AM
Wonderful story, Mark. Always a pleasure to see a new Frankland update.

Michael
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Jerry Howlett on July 16, 2015, 02:22:54 PM
Top Ho !!

Even spiffing, if I may be so bold.

Jerry
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on August 22, 2015, 06:23:34 PM
The New Empire Flying-Boats



Who, a year or so ago, would have believed you could get to Australia in just 11 days?

Modern technology is a wonderful thing - the new flying-boats must surely represent some pinnacle of mankind's inventiveness! 


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Flying-Boat-Short-Empire_zpsvxcsbhi9.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Frankland%20idents/Flying-Boat-Short-Empire_zpsvxcsbhi9.jpg.html)




And apparently the customer service is second-to-none :)



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Flying-Boat-Lunch_zpslxodfqzw.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Frankland%20idents/Flying-Boat-Lunch_zpslxodfqzw.jpg.html)



Naturally the Southern Railway offers regular Pullman express trains to Amblesea Marine for Flying-Boat departures to the miriad destinations across the Empire.

And that's why we see the following advertisement / poster everywhere at the moment ...


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Imperial-Airways-poster-10_zpsglda2cbn.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Frankland%20idents/Imperial-Airways-poster-10_zpsglda2cbn.jpg.html)


... but something about the poster caught my eye.  The van behind the locomotive: It's a bogie van, quite long. Not the usual four-wheeler we're accustomed to.

It set me thinking. A couple of days ago I woke quite early in the morning to the sound of a lot of clanking and commotion around the sidings at Frankland.

I got on my collar and tie and popped down to see what was going on.




(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Van-01_zpsplunjblt.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Van-01_zpsplunjblt.jpg.html)



I front of me was a new style of van almost double the size of the old ones.



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Van-02_zpsmksvxv39.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Van-02_zpsmksvxv39.jpg.html)



I'm sure it's the van depicted in the poster.



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Van-03_zpswrkf4uos.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Van-03_zpswrkf4uos.jpg.html)


It's quite humbling to think that sitting here in the sidings of Frankland is a van that will be conveying important Whitehall dispatches and the luggage of our Viceroys, Governers and Civil Servants all around the Empire. These are people who shape the destiny of the whole world you know!

It made me feel quite proud really.
All that importance wrapped up in such a van parked here in Frankland :)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Empire-Map-02_zps3qzvgzy2.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Frankland%20idents/Empire-Map-02_zps3qzvgzy2.jpg.html)

These Flying-Boat will soon make traversing the Empire just like getting the tube!


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Imperial-Airways-Routes_zpscd0zsm8u.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Frankland%20idents/Imperial-Airways-Routes_zpscd0zsm8u.jpg.html)





The local paper reported that a subversive type tried to get aboard the van disguised as a Postal Order destined for Malacca. Goodness knows what he was plotting. But the constable was having none of it and soon saw him off with a hefty clip-round-the-ear and rather a stern word   :worried:



(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/Van-04_zpslqq2l8ia.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Rolling%20stock/Van-04_zpslqq2l8ia.jpg.html)



youtu.be/NOfWhwvGQZc (http://youtu.be/NOfWhwvGQZc)


Mark
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: daveg on August 22, 2015, 07:17:28 PM
Super! Smashing, old boy!

In fact, jolly,bally good, what!  ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: port perran on August 22, 2015, 07:36:46 PM
I say old chap....that's a cracking little fable and spiffingly illustrated (if I may be so bold as to say so).
Great story.....and the illustrations are a great little addition.  Good to see the new GF van on the railway and so good to have someone with the imagination to bring their railway to life so wittingly.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on August 22, 2015, 09:19:48 PM
Another ripping yarn. Top hole, old bean :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: CarriageShed on August 23, 2015, 09:50:37 AM
A wonderful addition to the Southern's compliment of rolling stock, although it means that Frankland (and the Empire) is worryingly close to experiencing a bout of fisticuffs with that Austrian chappie who's in charge in Germany these days. However, I'm banking on our wonderful Prime Minister, Mr Neville Chamberlain, soon being able to assure us of peace for our time.

(By the way, I estimate that it'll be the far flung future of the late twentieth century before anyone refers to 'the tube' as anything other than the deep tunnel lines in London, so I can see that you were being very specific in your mention of part of the Underground  ;) )
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Jerry Howlett on August 24, 2015, 02:37:29 PM
Another ripping yarn.

Wait till Biggles gets his hands of one of those big boys.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on August 24, 2015, 04:08:30 PM

Wait till Biggles gets his hands of one of those big boys.


Algy has just blushed hotly (again) :-[
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on August 15, 2016, 09:33:11 PM
And Here Is The News ....

 
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Stuart_Hibberd_zps5yebky3h.jpg)

 
As you may be aware, Frankland has been broadcasting on a different frequency in recent months, but here's a special bulletin as there's some catching up to do!


Best make yourself a nice cup of tea and prepare a pipe before settling down.

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Books

I thought I'd start with the Frankland library which continues to grow.

First-up, 'Southern Infrastructure', an excellent choice for detail and atmosphere. I can spend hours observing the minutiae both sides of the railway fence.

 
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/For%20other%20people/Southern-Railway-Infrastructure_zps246f0738.jpg)


An obvious choice for the bookshelves was the following

 
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/For%20other%20people/Southern-Way-12-Third-Rail-Centenary_zpswlqvpgmq.jpg)
 

Next is Gordon Weddell's LSWR Carriages, Volume 3: Non-Passenger Carriage Stock.
Amongst other things it covers TPOs, which I'd like to see on Frankland one day.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Rolling%20stock/LSWR-Carriages-Volume-3-Non-Passenger-Carriage-Stock_zpsz3hmqfvr.jpg)
 

I do like foraging around in junk shops, and was lucky enough to come across an original edition London A-Z

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Frankland-A-Z_zps66562108.jpg)


And sure enough, on page 25, you can see the streets, stations and parks of Frankland mapped out before your eyes. It will be invaluable for my modelling.

 
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Frankland-A-Z-entry-10_zps0853cc8d.jpg)

In the same shop a few months later I discovered two old books related to transport/Frankland which I had to buy.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Frankland-Books-10_zps3ba7213e.jpg)


In the next photograph: Most rewarding was the discovery that on the cover of the Ladybird book, if you look very closely through the window on the far side of the compartment, in the lower background you can just make out the flats and shops at the bottom of Frankland Hill, with a No 4 tram trundling by.
 
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Ladybird-book-Frankland-10-detail_zps5a016d63.jpg)

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Traffic!

 
The volume of traffic in Frankland isn't quite as frightful as it should be, so I decided to do something about it.

I thought I'd have a go at a Shirescenes horse-drawn van.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Traffic-Delivery-Van-01_zpsdd1e3961.jpg)


An Austin 7 Ruby Saloon

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Austin-Seven-Ruby_zpsaa055ca8.jpg)
 

A Morris Cowley 1924 Tourer


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Morris-Cowley-Tourer-01_zpsa21d58ee.jpg)
 

A Morris Cowley 1925 Saloon

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Morris-Cowley-Saloon-01_zps8b0184d4.jpg)

And what I believe is a 1938 Wolseley saloon. It came with a job-lot from eBay a few years back.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Wolseley-Saloon-01_zps806f289f.jpg)


The cars all had an undercoat of grey

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Cars-undercoated-01_zpse2819b9a.jpg)

 
And were then brush-painted, glazed, and drivers added.
 
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Cars-have-Numberplates-01_zpseb8e5a87.jpg)
 

I made number plates (with correct registrations for time and place).

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Cars-have-Numberplates-02_zpsb3027d13.jpg)
 
I also added a windscreen to the Morris Cowley Tourer. The Tourer is owned by the Doctor, who often takes his wife out for a little drive on a Sunday morning. You can see them on the left of the picture above.


The van was also progressed. The cars and van were hand-painted as I hadn't yet embraced the air-brush at this point.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Van-26_zps789ff302.jpg)
 

And I reckoned a traffic policeman would be called for, so I made a (not very good) helmet to fit a standard figure of a railwayman and painted accordingly.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Policeman-04_zps1735aeee.jpg)
 

But what did I unleash? Look!

The volume of traffic on the roads these days is quite shocking! ;)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Traffic-Congestion-01_zps21c44c62.jpg)

You really take your life in your hands just trying to cross the road! What is the world coming to?

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Traffic-Congestion-04_zps1a134c9e.jpg)

 
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Traffic-Congestion-03_zpsbdc53cc1.jpg)
 
 
It's no surprise to see in the picture below the Doctor and his wife out for a drive, but they're so much out for a drive - as just stuck in traffic!


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Scenics/Traffic-Congestion-07_zps3dc140f0.jpg)
 

I didn't used to be like this in the old days!

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Cigarette Cards

Back in July 2015 I posted a short story about the about the N class locomotive arriving on Frankland, for which I created a few graphics of cigarette cards.

I liked them so much that I decided to go the whole-hog and design a complete set of cards, which were then properly printed. I  thought they'd be an unusual stocking-filler for family and close-friends at Christmas - people who aren't really into model railways as such, but do have a broader appreciation of creativity and like something personal at Christmas that's had a bit of thought and effort put into it.
 
In the picture below: Top left is the little cover they came in, wrapped around with a bow of sage-green crepe ribbon (I couldn't get sage-green spectacle cord).

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Frankland-Cigarette-Cards_zpsmduz6xws.jpg)

There are actually four series that make up the complete set of cards.

 

Series 1: Southern Railway Locomotives

Series 2: Southern Railway Electric Trains

Series 3: Southern Railway Rolling Stock, Including Pasenger Speed-Rated Vans

Series 4: Things To See From The Train

 
The only locomotive for which I don't have a card is the Schools. If anyone has one to swop I'd be quite interested.


Anyway, the cigarette cards crop up again later ... ;)


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3-Subs

Finally we move to the subject/project that has been keeping me distracted (obsessed?) the last couple of years ...

I know some have been following progress on my workbench thread:

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/66512-n-gauge-lswr-3-sub/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/66512-n-gauge-lswr-3-sub/)


But for those that haven't, here is a precis.

I've probably mentioned before that around the age of 12 or 13 I came across a postcard in a junk shop that fascinated me, here it is.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/4-LAV/Bullet-Train.jpg)

It spoke of another time and place, somewhere that wasn't a hundred miles away, yet would forever remain intangible. I had to understand more. 

 
It sowed the roots in my young mind of what has evolved into the Frankland raison d'Ítre.

Well a couple of years ago finally the moment came to roll up my sleeves and get on with it ...

I planned to make three sets of 3-Subs. One would be in original LSWR livery, the other two in early SR livery.

Etches from Worsley Works ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-etchings-unwrapped_zpscb2a6244.jpg)

 
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-49-DMBC_zps73cd984f.jpg)

Plus numerous reference photos I'd taken of a slightly later version of the particular 3-Subs I'm modelling, from the National Railway Museum, York.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/4-LAV/3-SUB-03.jpg)

 
I also had drawings from the South Western Circle, and armed myself with all the componants I needed.

 
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-parts-02_zps9dfc9848.jpg)
 

Other parts were kindly supplied by Etched Pixels, viz: door/grab handles, trusses and roof sections.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-316-Trusses_zps5a3d68bc.jpg)

Holes were drilled and filed in the etchings ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-34-crater-filed_zps90fa125f.jpg)


Plus folding and soldering happened ... I learned a lot along the way!

 
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-88-Assembly_zps96e302be.jpg)
 

Various other parts I made, such as interiors ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-318-Interiors_zps1cb7f089.jpg)
 

... and roof conduits, rainstrips and carriage-end detailing made from Plastic strip, guitar wire and fuse wire etc. Vents were out of a bag.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-378-Driving-Trailer-roof-fittings_zpse873dc2f.jpg)
 

Then followed lots of filling and sanding and more bits of Plastic Strip and other things stuck on ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-417-front_zps82da05d3.jpg)

Coupling is achieved through a squared loop that sits around a small lug on the adjacent bogie. This was a suggestion from a seasoned Southern modeller on RMWeb, Colin Parks.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-269-Coupling_zpsdf27c534.jpg)


I learned to use an airbrush (with some failings, but ultimately worth the effort)
 
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/Iwata_Eclipse_CS-_zpsd2036e48.jpg)
 

Then production-line masking and spraying followed ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-245-WIP_zpscrah6b1g.jpg)
 

Next my favourite part, picking out the details ...

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-251-Painting_zpsyh0lz8jm.jpg)


Precsion Decals were also very helpful guiding me through how to make my own transfers

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-242-Decals_zpse2787e04.jpg)

 
I was really pleased at how fine the decals turned-out - even the miniscule 'st' on 1st and 'rd' on 3rd are legible. I had feared they would break up on application, but no, they worked out perfectly.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-263-Decals_zps78a7syuj.jpg)
 

Things started to look good ...  in particular I was interested in showcasing the difference in livery between the LSWR and later SR versions of these units.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-275-glazed-varnished_zpsyofkk9fz.jpg)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-271-glazed-varnished_zps4uwgpwa2.jpg)

 
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/3-Sub-268-glazed-varnished_zpshl3n5ilh.jpg)


Thanks go to Mr Chapman for valuable assistance on the motor side of things.

Anyone interested in further details please visit the workbench thread mentioned above.

The only down-side was my new trains didn't like my old third-rail, so most of it had to be ripped out.

But hey, that's where the imagination comes into play :)

 
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So now ...

Let's Party Like It's 1924!

... I have great pleasure in bringing you the new Electric Trains for Frankland.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/3-SUB/Frankland-3-Subs_zpskaxnkvov.jpg)

 
Grouping of the Big Four has recently been enacted and electric trains have come to Frankland: What better way to find out more than to catch the latest newsreel at the cinema.

And as a special treat I've bought us all tickets in the balcony, so be on your best behavior please!

 



I thank you,

Mark




Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: mika on August 15, 2016, 10:37:43 PM
 :wonderfulmodelling:

Thank you for that wonderful update.

 :greatwork:

All the best
Michael
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: daveg on August 16, 2016, 06:42:22 AM
Brilliant! :thumbsup:

Many thanks.

Dave G
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: willike1958 on August 16, 2016, 06:52:34 AM
Great modelling. Those EMUs are fantastic and look to run extremely well. And a very entertaining and well put together little film.
Well done. Kevin
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Bealman on August 16, 2016, 07:07:34 AM
Briiliant stuff. You must have been up all night posting that! Great update though.... wonderful modelling and some really cool historical artifacts.

Quadruple thumbs up.

George
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: weave on August 16, 2016, 08:03:31 AM
Absolutely capital.

Wonderful stuff and fantastic film.

Will go back to the start and read the whole thread properly later.

Thank you,

weave
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on August 16, 2016, 10:21:11 AM
Awesome update. I was wondering what progress was being made to this superb and evocative layout.
Please accept my thanks for the balcony cinema tickets, although I was not at all impressed by Bealman who seemed to take delight in throwing sweets at the audience below :unimpressed:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Bealman on August 16, 2016, 10:29:59 AM
 :laughabovepost:

But a fantastic post. Thanks, Southernboy! A true classic.  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: M0NTIGNAC on August 16, 2016, 11:10:05 AM
  :hellosign:  :wonderfulmodelling:   :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: keerout on August 16, 2016, 11:39:32 AM
Ah.. that brightened up my day! thanks.
Amazing stuff,Really liked the newsreel! (never been on the balcony before)  ;)
Thanks again,
Gerard  :wave:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: silly moo on August 16, 2016, 11:58:36 AM
Brilliant! Made me want to buy some Capital cigarettes just to get the cigarette cards  :D
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Bealman on August 16, 2016, 12:04:39 PM
 :laughabovepost:
Oh yeah... that's your story  ;)

Great thread though, isn't it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: RossE on August 16, 2016, 12:30:48 PM
Utterly fantastic! Wow! Incredible work.
I absolutely loved reading though the material and watching the video. Excellent job!  :greatpicturessign: :thankyousign:
Ross
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: chorleysteve on August 16, 2016, 06:48:05 PM
entertaining and inspirational as always
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on August 16, 2016, 07:21:55 PM
Thank you one-and-all for your kind replies.

Glad you enjoyed the newsreel, it was fun to make, and lends an insight into my own particular world of playing trains :)

Thanks again,

Mark
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Ditape on August 16, 2016, 07:25:56 PM
Loved the news reel, great work , keep them coming. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Milton Rail on August 16, 2016, 09:36:15 PM
Like all the other, I have been blown away by the quality of your modelling and the brilliant narrative of your updates - been a wasted day for me at work today, as I found the link to your thread this morning & not done much productive work all day as I have read through it.

Inspirational stuff, has really energised me to raise my game - pity I am stuck at work for the foreseeable future!

Cheers,
Andrew
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: lil chris on August 16, 2016, 10:29:46 PM
Pretty impressive stuff, I enjoyed the video too.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 17, 2016, 09:29:27 PM
Many thanks for all your excellent and highly creative work. Simply superb results.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: MinZaPint on August 19, 2016, 12:51:44 PM
It's all been said above, highly entertaining  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: kirky on August 20, 2016, 09:47:29 AM
Hi Mark
Well worth the twelve month wait for that update. Brilliant as ever.

I vaguely remember reading that Peter and Jane book when I was 5. I knew I had a childhood recollection of Frankland buried in my memory - that must be it ?  :confused2:

Thanks again Mark, I will definitely go and read your workbench thread on the darkside. Im very interested particlarly in the coupling method.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Jerry Howlett on August 20, 2016, 09:17:57 PM
Your posts always make me smile before I turn green with envy... Southern Green of course.  Tonight what makes it more apt is that there are several brass bands playing outside my house as I type this.
(we have the tri annual Festa Luminata this evening)
Jerry
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on August 21, 2016, 11:57:52 PM
From the Cutting Room Floor



  (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Frankland-Newsreel_zps2y21caxz.jpg)

 
I found some of the original 1920s colour footage on the cutting room floor. I collated it below and hope you enjoy :)





Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 22, 2016, 05:29:45 AM
Many thanks for another excellent cine film of Frankland's wonderful trains.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Agrippa on August 22, 2016, 08:41:34 AM
Great stuff, good to see a UM loco in action!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on August 22, 2016, 10:17:12 AM
Absolute magic (and that's just the soundtrack) :claphappy:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: M0NTIGNAC on August 22, 2016, 11:03:52 AM
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/5552-220816110330.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=43084)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: MinZaPint on August 22, 2016, 11:53:18 AM
Brilliant as usual, you set very high standards  :thumbsup: and in response to the closing shot "Whish you were here" so do I.  Best wishes   David
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Papyrus on August 22, 2016, 12:14:13 PM
I don't think I've come across this thread until today, and even now I've barely skimmed the surface. Just brilliant! The accompanying back-story makes the whole thing real, and the model-making is superb.

 :wonderfulmodelling: :greatwork:

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Bealman on August 22, 2016, 12:30:01 PM
When I watched that, me first thought was "Eek, MinZaPint would wet himself over this," but I can see he's already been here. Onya, David.  :beers:

Ab Fab.

Question please.... is that gasholder scratchbuilt? It looks great!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Michiel on August 22, 2016, 12:46:12 PM
@Southernboy (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=105), I'm very impressed with what you show here. I'm planning to build a layout showing the same period (the 1920'ies), but then in Belgium. You are modeling the era with great attention for detail and high quality modelling skills. You are an inspiration for me. Great stuff!!!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: MinZaPint on August 22, 2016, 04:00:28 PM
When I watched that, me first thought was "Eek, MinZaPint would wet himself over this," but I can see he's already been here. Onya, David.  :beers:

Ab Fab.

Question please.... is that gasholder scratchbuilt? It looks great!  :thumbsup:

Managed to stay dry  :rain: thanks George! for the gasholder see posts 14 & 158,   Cheers  David
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: kirky on August 22, 2016, 06:02:20 PM
Thanks Mark, great stuff as usual.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Lachute on August 23, 2016, 03:00:13 PM
Wonderful layout. I really like the video.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Mustermark on August 24, 2016, 12:01:48 AM
Lovely update Southernboy. Thanks for switching frequencies. We love picking up your broadcasts. Exquisite modelling and delightfully presented over the ether.

Your graphic design skills are evident in those cigarette cards. Will those be available in the NGF shop soon?

And when do you plan to make the kit of the art deco style apartment block available... I have been waiting so long for that to reach the shops. It's still the best scratchbuilt building, ever, and surely will be a best-seller for decades to come.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Pierluc on August 28, 2016, 04:27:14 PM
 :hellosign:    :wonderfulmodelling:    :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on December 25, 2016, 12:46:20 AM
Happy Christmas every one :)





Now, what time are Morcambe & Wise on ?  :) :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Milton Rail on December 25, 2016, 07:07:32 AM
Brilliant!  Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on December 25, 2016, 09:51:09 AM
Great fun!
 :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: robert shrives on December 25, 2016, 09:54:50 AM
 :thankyousign:
Brilliant fun thanks for updates and inspiring modelling
Have a great crimbo and after M&W a little bit of modelling/

Robert
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Jerry Howlett on December 25, 2016, 06:39:01 PM
Black and White madness.... :laughabovepost:
Says he who watched Holiday inn followed by White Christmas (that was at least in colour)

Well it is Christmas.  Jerry
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 25, 2016, 09:28:07 PM
And, actually, made very recently as Pan (Mr.) Havelka is well-known here in Prague for his swing music concerts.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on December 26, 2016, 06:18:55 PM
Indeed Chris, there are a number of his videos on Youtube which are equally entertaining and made to high-standard. I think I've watched most of them dozens of times  :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Steamie+ on January 06, 2017, 09:42:51 PM
 :hellosign: i have just seen your thread and your layout is brilliant, love every aspect of it. :superblayout:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 07, 2017, 08:48:53 PM
With a tip of my trilby to Frankland, a short story of Lord and Lady Trevelver and Waterloo station, as told to Sylvia, at Cant Cove:

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=35860.msg420651#msg420651 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=35860.msg420651#msg420651)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 07, 2017, 09:02:37 PM
What a delightful story Chris, and the clock is something so many of us have kept an eye on so many times as we await a departing train :)

Next time I am at Waterloo your tale will be in my head :)




Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 07, 2017, 09:09:08 PM
Special Announcement

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Stuart_Hibberd_zps5yebky3h.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Frankland%20idents/Stuart_Hibberd_zps5yebky3h.jpg.html)


Well thereís no putting the news off any longer, it seems apart from some paperwork, Iím moving home within the next four to eight weeks.

The new house will have itís own, proper, dedicated railway room, with enough space for a slightly larger layout than I have now.

Iím very excited, although as you can imagine, also a little sentimental at saying goodbye to Frankland in its current guise.

No promises - but I expect the next rendition of Frankland will include working trams, underground trains, and A/C electrics, alongside third rail.

The house Iím moving to is Edwardian, and completely unmodernised, so much work needs to be done.
This means it may be a year or so before I can start on a new layout.

But that doesnít stop me planning though :)

Iíll be sharing thoughts on the new layout in due course :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on January 07, 2017, 09:36:00 PM
Can Frankland Mk2 be Mk1 with some extension so as to save as much as possible of your excellent work?
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: GrahamB on January 07, 2017, 09:39:06 PM
can Frankland mk2 be portable so we can see it on the exhibition circuit?
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: 4x2 on January 07, 2017, 09:41:59 PM
I agree with Newportnobby, Frankland has some of the best scratch built buildings I've ever seen ! I'd love to see them incorporated into your next layout....
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: gc4946 on January 07, 2017, 09:49:29 PM
Special Announcement

([url]http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Stuart_Hibberd_zps5yebky3h.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Frankland%20idents/Stuart_Hibberd_zps5yebky3h.jpg.html[/url])


Well thereís no putting the news off any longer, it seems apart from some paperwork, Iím moving home within the next four to eight weeks.

The new house will have itís own, proper, dedicated railway room, with enough space for a slightly larger layout than I have now.

Iím very excited, although as you can imagine, also a little sentimental at saying goodbye to Frankland in its current guise.

No promises - but I expect the next rendition of Frankland will include working trams, underground trains, and A/C electrics, alongside third rail.

The house Iím moving to is Edwardian, and completely unmodernised, so much work needs to be done.
This means it may be a year or so before I can start on a new layout.

But that doesnít stop me planning though :)

Iíll be sharing thoughts on the new layout in due course :)


Does "A/C electrics" mean the former LBSCR overhead system discontinued by 1929 - it's been very rarely modelled, if at all
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 07, 2017, 10:15:52 PM
Yes indeed :)

I kicked myself almost from the start of Frankland for not having included LBSCR overhead electrics in the plan.

The 'Milk Van' units will feature on the new layout :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 08, 2017, 10:51:35 AM
Your plans sound very exciting indeed judging by the excellent model making of your current layout. However, you will, of necessity, be scratchbuilding a lot of stock, not to mention the distinctive LBSCR overhead electrification infrastructure, which will be a long process, I would think.

I hope you'll be able to get your new home into the condition you wish relatively quickly so that you can start work on what, I'm sure, will be a superb and highly distinctive layout.

I'm sure that lady Trevelver's mother will approve highly having been a young 'gal' about Town in the 1920s. 8-)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 08, 2017, 10:53:19 AM
What a delightful story Chris, and the clock is something so many of us have kept an eye on so many times as we await a departing train :)

Next time I am at Waterloo your tale will be in my head :)

Many thanks for your nice comments. I'm glad that you appreciated it and thank you for providing some of the inspiration.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 08, 2017, 12:02:13 PM
Can Frankland Mk2 be Mk1 with some extension so as to save as much as possible of your excellent work?

Much as I'd love to take Frankland as it is, and feel quite sentimental about it - I have the opportunity to start again, and that is quite exciting. For one example finescale track is now available, and for another, I hope to have working trams. So lots of good reasons for starting afresh :) 

I'll keep all the buildings in case I can use them again :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: robert shrives on January 08, 2017, 12:09:06 PM
Hi Good luck with the move and I hope the new works keep you busy - I guess the new model room will take a while but imagination knows no boundaries so in your head a fine scheme will Gel.

I guess no chance of layout finding a new home ? ... hint... !!

I suspect the last shots will be a fast forward to a wW11 1940s image... as Frankland suffers a direct hit in the street, as it will be abit late for a zep raid?

As many have said the work has been inspirational and the format of updates revolutionary.
Many on here will be "with bated breath"..
all the best
Robert   
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 08, 2017, 12:15:55 PM
can Frankland mk2 be portable so we can see it on the exhibition circuit?


I'm afraid not. Frankland is strictly 1924 Ė 1937.

My understanding is that, sadly, Frankland was badly hit in 1940 and nothing much of the original survived, so exhibition wouldn't be possible today.

I believe the area ultimately ended up being rebuilt as some ghastly 1970s shopping centre. Sorry!  I really don't like to think about it!


EDIT: Mr Shrives, you perfectly preempted my post as I was writing it :)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Frankland-book-02_zps2c01c8c5.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Frankland%20idents/Frankland-book-02_zps2c01c8c5.jpg.html)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/Deckle-edge-card_zpsf03048cf.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Frankland%20idents/Deckle-edge-card_zpsf03048cf.jpg.html)


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/LondonResident/Frankland%20idents/60s-town-centre_zpscc5b214a.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/user/LondonResident/media/Frankland%20idents/60s-town-centre_zpscc5b214a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 08, 2017, 12:26:24 PM
Ah, yes, very sad. I believe the (then) future Lord Trevelver remembers pre-war Frankland well as the Castle Estates dealt with a firm of accountants who had their offices there near the SR Electric station. His future wife used to enjoy shopping in the many high class emporia nearby.

Many years later, the sadly widowed grandmother used to recall Frankland by leafing through two books in the Castle library:

"London's Elevated Electric Railway: The LBSCR Suburban Overhead Electrification 1909-1929" Paperback Ė 1 Jul 2002
by Geoff Goslin

"The LBSCR Elevated Electrification: A Pictorial View of Construction" Paperback Ė 15 Sep 2011
by Stephen Grant

How elegant those electric trains were she remembers. Happy Days!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Black Sheep on January 08, 2017, 05:10:58 PM
Nooooo  :sorrysign: to see Frankland go, I guess if you're set on starting over then taking the current version and continuing building it is not really viable as it would be a distraction.

Hopefully it survives the move for you to run trains in-between work on the house and planning the new.

Looking forwards to it, hope your amazing shops will find their new home on the planned layout.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 08, 2017, 06:06:08 PM
Thank you gents,

Chris, I have those books, and in fact was re-reading one only yesterday, they are both informative and inspiring :)

Blacksheep, I'm not sure if the layout will move or not - if it does, it will be more ornamental than operational - something to look at whilst I plan the next version :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: chorleysteve on January 08, 2017, 07:06:23 PM
good luck mate - you've been inspirational with Frankland mk 1, I'm sure you will be with Frankland mk 2.  The Brighton electrics, especially, could be a frustrating but very rewarding challenge!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on January 08, 2017, 07:15:35 PM
I think the most challnging aspects of the Brighton electrics will be the pantographs and housing on the roof, and the overhead itself. The overhead infrastructure was very different back then. By the same token, it will be an interesting project, and one I hope that will ultimately bring satisfaction and something different to Frankland.

Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 08, 2017, 10:23:05 PM
 :hellosign: A big  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup: for your talent, good luck with the move & looking forward to mark 2 presently
   regards Derek.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Steamie+ on January 09, 2017, 06:32:21 AM
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Well thereís no putting the news off any longer, it seems apart from some paperwork, Iím moving home within the next four to eight weeks.

The new house will have itís own, proper, dedicated railway room, with enough space for a slightly larger layout than I have now.

Iím very excited, although as you can imagine, also a little sentimental at saying goodbye to Frankland in its current guise.

No promises - but I expect the next rendition of Frankland will include working trams, underground trains, and A/C electrics, alongside third rail.

The house Iím moving to is Edwardian, and completely unmodernised, so much work needs to be done.
This means it may be a year or so before I can start on a new layout.

But that doesnít stop me planning though :)

Iíll be sharing thoughts on the new layout in due course :)


Firstly I hope all goes well with your move and i agree with the other members on an extension of your brilliant work.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 09, 2017, 08:23:37 AM
Thank you gents,

Chris, I have those books, and in fact was re-reading one only yesterday, they are both informative and inspiring :)

Blacksheep, I'm not sure if the layout will move or not - if it does, it will be more ornamental than operational - something to look at whilst I plan the next version :)

I was pretty sure that you'd have these books and really look forward to seeing you build and run LBSCR overhead electric suburban units on your future layout. I'm very glad that you'll be saving all those superb buildings for possible reuse. I wish your house move and Frankland II all success.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: robert shrives on January 09, 2017, 12:56:37 PM
Hi ,
The second picture makes me recall that my grand parents house in Bristol was hit and the only survivor was the clock - still ticking on the remains of the mantlepiece.  The front of house was upright the rest just rubble - family were in shelter or at work which is a case of "more than lucky." 

The 1970s photo   Typical of the brave brutalist concrete era ( error!) depending on how you pronounce it would make the burgers of Frankland shudder, by 2010s it was a full glass rebuild into a food court and designer brew pub with more places to buy drinks than catch trains (Birmingham New st  !!) 

As many have said good luck with post blitz(move) rebuild - can (sort of ) see you pushing a cart with all your belongings as an escapee - from 21st century back to a simpler (better) time of the 1920 and 30s.
Robert
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Black Sheep on January 09, 2017, 12:59:51 PM

I'm not sure if the layout will move or not - if it does, it will be more ornamental than operational - something to look at whilst I plan the next version :)

If it manages to make the move then it should have pride of place in your drawing room where you can sit after dinner with a whiskey and watch trains go by before going through to join the ladies in the library

Yes, I've been watching too much Downton Abbey lately...
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Black Sheep on August 31, 2017, 05:01:49 PM
noooooo,

Photobucket has disabled the hosting of the photos so I can't look back for inspiration
Have to look forwards hopefully for whatever, or should I say, wherever is built next.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: NeMo on August 31, 2017, 05:20:46 PM
Agreed, very sad to lose all these photos! One my favourite layouts with an astonishing "sense of time and place".

Perhaps @Southernboy (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=105) can be talked into uploading half a dozen selected photos to the NGF Gallery feature, and pasting them here so we can admire them in the future?

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: RailGooner on August 31, 2017, 05:54:34 PM
I discovered this forum by discovering this thread. Sad to think that no others will be able to experience this.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Newportnobby on August 31, 2017, 09:01:42 PM
Curse Photobucket!
Frankland was one of the most evocative layouts I've seen since I joined the forum so, yes, I hope @Southernboy (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=105) will post some more pics on the forum for myself and others to marvel at.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Black Sheep on August 31, 2017, 09:32:17 PM
Just checked RMweb but the photos there are also photo bucket linked.

Not Southernboys fault though and equally annoying for him and us.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on September 01, 2017, 10:04:35 AM
Hello gents,

Your comments very much appreciated.

Yes, the Photobucket debacle was rather disheartening. At some point I'll post a collection of my favourite Frankland images, although it probably won't be until nearer Christmas as I recently moved house and have lots to do.

All the best,

Mark

Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: robert shrives on September 01, 2017, 10:24:06 AM
 :thankyousign: :thankyousign: :thankyousign:

A great piece of history recreated, hope move went as well as can be expected. Many fellow modellers look forward to the next chapter or movietone news reel release.

Robert   
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Only Me on September 01, 2017, 11:06:03 AM
hi @Southernboy (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=105) you can bulk upload your pictures to the forum if you wish,

Follows the help below :-

Click "Gallery" from the top menu bar
Click "My Gallery" from menu bar on the the page that appears
When the page changes to your Gallery Click "Add Category" from the admin panel at the lower part of the page
Once You have created a category, click on it and there will be a menu option at the lower part of the page "Bulk Add Pictures"
Just Drag and Drop your pictures into the folder and it will upload them all to the Category
From there you can modify your most excellent layout thread links to show the photos there. 
If you get stuck please drop one of the moderators a PM to assist



Cheers Paul

Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on September 01, 2017, 11:16:46 AM
Thank you Paul, very helpful, and will do in due course :)

Mark
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Black Sheep on September 01, 2017, 02:13:33 PM
Hope the move went well,

I do have a mental picture of you (despite no idea what you look like) sat in a wing-back chair in a smoking jacket enjoying a tipple while reading a book on LSWR rolling stock...
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on May 21, 2018, 09:28:32 PM
It looks like Photobucket have realised the error of their ways, changed management, and are offering a very reasonable deal to users.

I've paid a £15.00 annual subscription to have links to my pictures restored :)  I am very happy tonight :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Train Waiting on May 21, 2018, 09:58:00 PM
Excellent - I very much look forward to seeing them.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Mustermark on May 22, 2018, 02:36:47 AM
Thatís wonderful news for this thread. Many thanks for the investment in our entertainment.

Your art deco apartment is one of the best scratchbuilds ever, and Iím delighted to see it reinstated... Ďreply #42í:

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=378.msg21070#msg21070 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=378.msg21070#msg21070)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Mr Sprue on May 22, 2018, 09:12:46 PM
hi @Southernboy ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=105[/url]) you can bulk upload your pictures to the forum if you wish,

Follows the help below :-

Click "Gallery" from the top menu bar
Click "My Gallery" from menu bar on the the page that appears
When the page changes to your Gallery Click "Add Category" from the admin panel at the lower part of the page
Once You have created a category, click on it and there will be a menu option at the lower part of the page "Bulk Add Pictures"
Just Drag and Drop your pictures into the folder and it will upload them all to the Category
From there you can modify your most excellent layout thread links to show the photos there. 
If you get stuck please drop one of the moderators a PM to assist



Cheers Paul


Thanx Paul I didn't know that!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on May 22, 2018, 09:20:42 PM
Thank you Mustermark.

I really objected in principle to what Photobucket had done on moral grounds, and the fee proposed was extortionate.

As previous management seems to have been booted out, and a new annual fee of £15 offered, the picture looked more satisfactory.

Mind you, that's still 5/1d a week in old money :o
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on May 22, 2018, 09:23:29 PM
Thanks for the reminder Paul,

I do have that on my list of things to do :)

It's just that having moved to an old house with much work to complete, that to-do list stretches a long way into the future!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Black Sheep on May 23, 2018, 03:07:57 PM

It's just that having moved to an old house with much work to complete, that to-do list stretches a long way into the future!

But that's well into the future, by about 86 years  :bounce:

On a serious note, I hope the old house renovation work has been enjoyable and is progressing well (mine is 5 years in and still much to do but smaller jobs now) and that you are finding time to muse over the other areas of Frankland (or a neighbouring town, Trumptonshire style) to build when time allows.

So grateful to have the photos back up, it is entirely your fault that I'm planning an art deco lido!
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Jerry Howlett on May 23, 2018, 06:48:47 PM
@Southernboy (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=105)
So glad you are back, looking forward to more of your 1930's ramblings.  Your town buildings are an inspiration.

Jerry
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 23, 2018, 07:08:37 PM
@Southernboy ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=105[/url])
So glad you are back, looking forward to more of your 1930's ramblings.  Your town buildings are an inspiration.

Jerry


Seconded! I have also renewed my Photobucket subscription for 12 months.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on May 23, 2018, 10:08:04 PM
... it is entirely your fault that I'm planning an art deco lido!

Exciting :) I look forward to more on that :)
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: GrahamB on November 26, 2018, 08:35:20 AM
Hi,
I've just been revisiting these pages. I see how you produced your posters. Did you use the same method to produce the "Southern Electric" signs?
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: Southernboy on November 26, 2018, 09:47:46 PM
Hello Graham,

Yes, all my posters* and signs were produced on the computer, printed on commercial machines at the likes of Boots etc as you would with family photos etc, then trimmed, next toned the white rims with grey felt-tipped pen, and glued into place.

*The exception was the 'old' posters on the 'wrong side' of the viaduct which were printed on paper at the office so they could be easily distressed.
Title: Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
Post by: GrahamB on November 27, 2018, 07:49:54 AM
Many thanks.
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