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Title: Brickhill
Post by: 31374547 on August 16, 2015, 02:40:48 PM
Brickhill......an imaginary small station on the Settle - Carlisle line with passing loops and engineers sidings in the mid 1980s  BR Blue-Grey era. Plenty of modelling licence intended - with facing points used and colour light signals etc. The fiddle yard will be behind the scenery (hill).

Baseboard construction now completed - 10ft by 3ft using two boards (5ft by 3ft) connected with coach bolts. CLS timber used with 9mm Ply on top. Ikea trestles.

Code 55 track on 1/16th cork. Track laying next.

Basic track plan diagram below - but the signalling is still open to change etc at this stage.

(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: NeMo on August 16, 2015, 03:18:07 PM
Track laying next.
Humbly suggest photos next, or soon at least! Looks a great idea.

Getting the specific S&C feel is easier said than done. Any ideas in mind?

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: Al. on August 16, 2015, 03:33:42 PM
Plenty of scope there, as you said. Brings back memories of chasing steam locos on that line.

Look forward to seeing photos.
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: 31374547 on August 16, 2015, 07:43:45 PM

Getting the specific S&C feel is easier said than done. Any ideas in mind?

Cheers, NeMo

I decided to go for a 3ft depth specifically to enable the scenery to be the dominate feature - the railway fits into the landscape if you like. The full 3ft depth will be visible and will incline upwards to the rear. The fiddle yard will be behind the covered section of the hill at the rear. The near section will incline slightly upwards, creating a small cutting effect. Buildings etc will be sparse and the small station will feature just the basics as per a small SC station set-up. Lots of stone walling and perhaps some snow fences etc. The plan is to have the majority of traffic just passing through the scenic layout.

However, this is my first layout so who knows what it will turn out like. It could be a complete dogs dinner !

Any advice welcome.....
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 16, 2015, 09:09:27 PM
Sounds very interesting. I love 'layouts in the landscape'. I look forward to seeing this develop.
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: Bangor Lad on August 16, 2015, 09:11:54 PM
I really like the track plan. This sort of layout has always appealed to me. Plenty of movement on the mainlines plus plenty of activity in the lay byes plus the additional interest of the engineer's sidings.

Really looking forward to seeing your layout developing.

Cheers
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: Newportnobby on August 16, 2015, 09:54:29 PM
The plan looks fine but I would ask that you don't run it parallel to the baseboard edge but either curve it or place it at a shallow angle to the edge.
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: 31374547 on October 08, 2015, 04:27:30 PM
Hi all, a quick update on progress with Brickhill

All track laid and stage 1 electrical wiring completed (stage 2 will be to add polarity switching to the points) and functionality testing conducted. All working fine. Loco running in completed as well.

Before I proceed further, I would like to fully clean the track (and also the loco wheels) as they are somewhat dirty after being handled etc during track laying.

I would therefore be grateful for recommendations on track cleaning methods and also loco wheel cleaning. Track rubbers any good? Emery cloth type papers? Methylated spirits? I have no idea.

Any help or guidance appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: Mr PJ on October 08, 2015, 07:23:21 PM
Looks a bit like the layout at Blea Moor. You might want to have a ballast loading point on the furthest engineers siding so that you can have regular traffic emanating from the sidings (like Horton-in-Ribblesdale).

I look forward to seeing the photos.

As for track-cleaning people recommend IPA. I get confused by this, as I thought I was meant to go down the pub and drink the stuff! :beers: I think they mean the sort of fluid that used to be used to clean cassettes etc...

The old Peco track rubbers I think are still pretty good for track cleaning especially after painting and ballasting etc.

Cheers,
Paul
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: Northman on October 08, 2015, 08:09:39 PM
I did a search on this forum (always informative) for track cleaning and bought a bottle of IPA via Ebay as a result -  strong stuff and I got an immediate headache trying to use it - disposed of it.

I have used Deluxe Track Magic this evening - bottle arrived today - works perfectly and all now running smoothly - which it was not doing despite energetic rubbing with a track rubber!  My fault for not covering track before spraying my grass and scrub scenery with hair lacquer (idiot) - the spray worked perfectly but sticky tracks do not :no:

Deluxe items are pricey but they do what they say they do and I would not use anything except Deluxe Roket glue for my card modelling.
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: 31374547 on October 08, 2015, 09:02:48 PM
A couple of pics showing initial track lay.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/16/thumb_30173.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30173)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/16/thumb_30174.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30174)
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: Newportnobby on October 08, 2015, 09:45:28 PM
Great to see the curvature of the tracks :thumbsup: ;)


I would therefore be grateful for recommendations on track cleaning methods and also loco wheel cleaning. Track rubbers any good? Emery cloth type papers? Methylated spirits? I have no idea.



If you can't afford the CMX or Tomix track cleaners, track rubbers are OK but leave a fine residue so I always rub the track down with IPA afterwards. I wouldn't advise anything too abrasive as it could create scratches that crud will gather in.
I bought the Woodland Scenics track cleaner set and some of their pads which attach to rolling stock axles but found their proprietary cleaner left a greasy film on the rails which caused wheel slip so, again, use their kit with IPA.
It's not just loco wheels you'll need to clean but also rolling stock wheels. This tutorial will help.....
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=913.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=913.0)
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: Bangor Lad on October 08, 2015, 09:45:54 PM
Good progress and nicely laid trackwork!  :D
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: Mr PJ on October 08, 2015, 10:33:42 PM
I have to agree it all looks very professional, and is already looking like it has a bit of S&C atmosphere. I can already imagine a 45 or 47 charging through on the Notts - Glasgow, overtaking a 31 on freight, whilst a 25 potters about with some ballast wagons in the yard.... surprised its really your first layout! Personally I would recommend going down the DCC road myself, it has many advantages.

You will need to think about disguising the curves at each end. Tunnels will be fine on the S&C - lots of them! You do need to think about the engineers yard end as the end of your sidings may be close to the tunnel portal here, and thought needs to be given to creating a natural look. It might be a good excuse for a ballast quarry in this location though...

Cheers,
Paul
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: jonclox on October 09, 2015, 11:32:12 AM
I  find that one of these run with the pad dampened with track cleaning fluid can help a great deal

http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=M15500&style=&strType=&Mcode=Minitrix+15500 (http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=M15500&style=&strType=&Mcode=Minitrix+15500)

Of course there are other suppliers just as good as the one I have shown and prices can vary
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: 31374547 on March 26, 2016, 05:17:25 PM
It's been a while since I posted an update, so:

The major work has been on the scenery areas to the right hand side of the layout . The idea was to create a deep cutting and entrance into a tunnel. The structure was braced with plywood and then covered in card and paper before then applying paper mache to the whole area. Base colour painting is next. Some rocks and stones will be placed around the tunnel mouth area to break up any poor looking features.....it's a bit to 'straight edged' in places near the tunnel mouth.

Never done anything like this before so a bit trial and error in places.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/5/thumb_37119.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=37119)
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: Newportnobby on March 26, 2016, 05:37:53 PM
I think this is going to look very good.
The camera (which is the very devil at showing things up) seems to show kinks in the outside tracks at the baseboard join just after the crossovers, or is it just my squint?
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 26, 2016, 05:38:58 PM
Thanks for this update.
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: 31374547 on March 26, 2016, 07:17:46 PM
I think this is going to look very good.
The camera (which is the very devil at showing things up) seems to show kinks in the outside tracks at the baseboard join just after the crossovers, or is it just my squint?


If we are talking about the same thing, then it is probably where the track spacing increases on the two loop lines away from the main lines. Here is an overhead shot showing the increased spacing of the two loops away from the main lines. Hope that is what you were seeing....if not let me know. I'm not sure I have any kinks anywhere....the trains run ok.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/5/thumb_37128.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=37128)



Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: Newportnobby on March 27, 2016, 05:13:23 AM
I think this is going to look very good.
The camera (which is the very devil at showing things up) seems to show kinks in the outside tracks at the baseboard join just after the crossovers, or is it just my squint?


If we are talking about the same thing, then it is probably where the track spacing increases on the two loop lines away from the main lines. Here is an overhead shot showing the increased spacing of the two loops away from the main lines. Hope that is what you were seeing....if not let me know. I'm not sure I have any kinks anywhere....the trains run ok.

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/5/thumb_37128.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=37128[/url])


In this latest photo the topmost line doesn't seem so bad but there is definitely a slight 'S' shape to the lower one. It's not enough to affect any trains but I think it would just look a bit better if straightened out. :sorrysign:
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: Mr PJ on March 28, 2016, 08:20:45 PM
I don't think you could easily straighten that out without the track being at a slight angle at the baseboard join, which could cause issues in itself.
To be fair its only a goods loop, I think it looks pretty authentic with the very slight kink in the track. BR's PW department would have not worried about such things in the 80's!

Cheers,
Paul
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: 31374547 on March 28, 2016, 09:07:58 PM
I don't think you could easily straighten that out without the track being at a slight angle at the baseboard join, which could cause issues in itself.
To be fair its only a goods loop, I think it looks pretty authentic with the very slight kink in the track. BR's PW department would have not worried about such things in the 80's!

Cheers,
Paul

Thanks Paul. I appreciate that.
I must admit, I don't fancy trying to re-lay that across the join. As you say, it's a goods loop. Plus.....this is my first layout so it's not going to be perfect.

Cheers
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: 31374547 on December 23, 2016, 10:36:08 AM
Hi all.....
Updates on progress with Brickhill can be found on:

www.facebook.com/BrickhillModelRailway/ (http://www.facebook.com/BrickhillModelRailway/)

Sorry for those that don't use FB.

I wish you all a very festive break !
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 23, 2016, 11:36:35 AM
Unfortunately, although I am on Facebook, the link did not work for me.
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: 31374547 on December 23, 2016, 11:56:57 AM
Unfortunately, although I am on Facebook, the link did not work for me.

I'm very sorry....I had something set wrong. I would appreciate you having another look if you can. Sorry to have wasted your time before. Hope it works now.

Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 23, 2016, 12:02:33 PM
Thank you for your quick response. Now, it works fine. (But did you know that you have the BR double arrow logo reversed?)
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: 31374547 on December 23, 2016, 12:07:01 PM
Thank you for your quick response. Now, it works fine. (But did you know that you have the BR double arrow logo reversed?)

Thanks. Sometimes FB reverses photos when loaded...don't know why. Didn't spot it myself. I'll try and resolve.

Glad the link worked now.
Best regards
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: 31374547 on December 23, 2016, 12:10:35 PM
Thank you for your quick response. Now, it works fine. (But did you know that you have the BR double arrow logo reversed?)

Thanks. Sometimes FB reverses photos when loaded...don't know why. Didn't spot it myself. I'll try and resolve.

Glad the link worked now.
Best regards

Pic resolved now. Cheers
Title: Re: Brickhill
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 23, 2016, 01:42:46 PM
Thanks. Yes, the logo is the correct way round now.